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Speaker 1: Wow, what is up everybody? Welcome to another edition of

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Speaker 1: the NFL Fantasy Live Podcast. It is me and your

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Speaker 1: nam G Marcus Grants, and uh, it's kind of a

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Speaker 1: different setup today. We are not in our normal podcast studio.

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Speaker 1: We are in a conference room and sitting right behind

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Speaker 1: normal cast of characters. I would say across the glass,

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Speaker 1: but just across the table. It's producer Christina. How are you.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing well, so I guess good news and bad news.

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Speaker 1: I mean that this is your transitioning out. This is

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Speaker 1: our last this is our last show together. Huh. It's

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Speaker 1: been a fun ride. It's been a short ride, very

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Speaker 1: short but fun. So hopefully, well, I know this is

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Speaker 1: Fantasy Live Podcast. It's been great though, all Right, well,

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Speaker 1: and then uh, Eddie Murphy is here, Eddie Spaghetti. He's

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Speaker 1: that he's here. He's he's fiddling, fiddling with knobs and

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Speaker 1: So there's that. Uh. And then coming back she was

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Speaker 1: with us a couple of weeks ago, and now she

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Speaker 1: is back here. It is Cynthia Freeland. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the show. Thank you for having me. I'm glad, Sam,

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Speaker 1: I'm gotta could be here on the same day. Sam, Happy,

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Speaker 1: happy early birthday. Can I say that is possible? Not

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Speaker 1: you have made another trip around the Sun, and that

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Speaker 1: is something to be celebrated because not everybody gets to

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Speaker 1: say that every year. So there we go. Well, planned

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Speaker 1: to talk about this dark I know, I guess it

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Speaker 1: it around the Sun this year is the shot of

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Speaker 1: all you guys. This is our NFL fantasy see draft stravagains,

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Speaker 1: and we will talk mostly kind of draft strategies and

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Speaker 1: guys you're targeting, guys you are fading um. Just because

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Speaker 1: this is the third week of the preseason, this is

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Speaker 1: the week that is considered the dress rehearsal, where teams

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Speaker 1: And this is the week that a lot of leagues

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Speaker 1: decided to have their draft. So we will try to

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Speaker 1: give you as much draft information as we can packed

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Speaker 1: into the next forty five minutes or so. We will

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Speaker 1: also talk to one of the good, truly, good, truly smart,

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Speaker 1: hard working guys in the fantasy industry. That is Bob Harris.

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Speaker 1: You can find his work over at Football die Hards.

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Speaker 1: Also you can hear him on Sirius XM Radio. Just

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Speaker 1: one of the good people in this industry, so I'm

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Speaker 1: excited to have him on. We'll talk a little bit

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Speaker 1: about some of his draft strategies, especially in some of

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Speaker 1: the non conventional leagues. We'll talk about auctions a little bit,

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about best ball, will get his thoughts on

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Speaker 1: some of the big highlights and the headlines from the

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Speaker 1: recent weeks. But speaking of headlines, let's do some news,

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Speaker 1: all right. We will start Not a lot of news

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Speaker 1: is I'm gonna get to them draft stuff here, but

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Speaker 1: we'll start in Kansas City, where the Chiefs cut veteran

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Speaker 1: running back Charkendrick West last year. Not a whole lot

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Speaker 1: I suspect this means good things for Spencer wear in

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Speaker 1: The Patriots cut Kenny Britt. I don't know if that's

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Speaker 1: I think that the wind News the losing their draft

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Speaker 1: interested in Deaz or cutting Kenny Britt, who probably wasn't

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Speaker 1: the way, first four games this season's it's what Texans

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Speaker 1: but those two first games, you know, the Patriots every

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Speaker 1: have no idea who they are until at least mid Octeber, right,

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Speaker 1: nothing That preseason for the Patriots is September. So you know,

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Speaker 1: I just I don't. I've looked at this quarterback situation

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Speaker 1: By the way, schedule matters here too. Ravens is their

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Speaker 1: because that's a defense that there's a scarier defense, right,

425
00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:47,919
Speaker 1: So ultimately, for me, I'm staying away. Like the Dolphins

426
00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:53,040
Speaker 1: can't earn a first down, Like that's a really big problem.

427
00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:54,720
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a problem in real life. It's also

428
00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,680
Speaker 1: a really big problem in fantasy, like their third down

429
00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,399
Speaker 1: conversion percent or the number of first sounds they earned.

430
00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,800
Speaker 1: That like also factors in second down and first down

431
00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:07,760
Speaker 1: earned on first down. Um, that is a really big deal.

432
00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,359
Speaker 1: If you're not on the field, you can't score me

433
00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,800
Speaker 1: fantasy points. Stay off my team, you know, I think,

434
00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,160
Speaker 1: get off my lawn. I think it's even more interesting

435
00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,920
Speaker 1: when you talk about, you know, now that we've seen

436
00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,040
Speaker 1: all sorts of weird scoring systems in league, I've seen

437
00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,280
Speaker 1: a lot more leagues with points per first down, And

438
00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:23,919
Speaker 1: I think that's kind of an interesting point. Like that.

439
00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,600
Speaker 1: I like that one too, because I'm I am about

440
00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:30,040
Speaker 1: I am avowed uh opposition member of the you know

441
00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,840
Speaker 1: PPR group. I think PPR is overrated. I think it's stupid.

442
00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,520
Speaker 1: So like, I feel like points per first down is

443
00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:37,440
Speaker 1: kind of an interesting mix. So I like points per

444
00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:41,000
Speaker 1: first down, and I also like, um, if you have

445
00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,920
Speaker 1: like I don't think like last year the Jarvis Lander

446
00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,199
Speaker 1: stuff used to drive me crazy because he would have

447
00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,919
Speaker 1: a million catches for three inches. He I mean, he

448
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,480
Speaker 1: is one of the reasons why I think PPR is dumb. Like,

449
00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:56,639
Speaker 1: I don't understand how how just in a league that

450
00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,679
Speaker 1: is now slanted towards passing the football right that that

451
00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:03,280
Speaker 1: the rules are slanted towards quarterbacks and wide receivers. Look,

452
00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,240
Speaker 1: I know it's it is difficult to catch a pass.

453
00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:06,760
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying I can walk out here and

454
00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,120
Speaker 1: become a top notch wide receiver. But for these guys

455
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,880
Speaker 1: who can do it catching the football, the simple act

456
00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:13,960
Speaker 1: of catching the football on its own should not necessarily

457
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,720
Speaker 1: be equal to moving the ball ten yards down the field.

458
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,320
Speaker 1: I just can't. I can't buy it. Agree, So I'll

459
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,160
Speaker 1: give you a quarter point, PPR. I can. I can

460
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 1: abide that, but a full point to see that I

461
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,440
Speaker 1: like the first down that like, I really I'm gonna

462
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,560
Speaker 1: look into that for sure. Um, by the way, the

463
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,239
Speaker 1: other one I'm going to beat you with. And I

464
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:34,240
Speaker 1: saw freaking harmon Emmanuel Sanders. He's fallen way too far.

465
00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 1: I'm with you, But luckily I can maybe pick hetty.

466
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 1: I don't know whatever, right, But like that's when I

467
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 1: think people are like, oh, they're gonna be terrible. Case

468
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,679
Speaker 1: Kingdoms a huge upgrade. Where are we talking about him?

469
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,240
Speaker 1: He's an upgrade and and he loves slot receivers, and

470
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:53,800
Speaker 1: I know, and I just have this feeling that we'll

471
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:55,800
Speaker 1: see a lot more of Emmanuel Sanders in the slot,

472
00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,359
Speaker 1: which I think will do something. Plus the fact I

473
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,200
Speaker 1: keep saying this, at their peak, Anual Sanders into Marius

474
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:05,360
Speaker 1: Thomas gave you near equal production, and Sanders is coming

475
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 1: off the board like three rounds later. I'm I'm like, Okay,

476
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 1: you guys, keep doing that. I don't think I feel

477
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 1: bad for saying this out loud because this may come

478
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,119
Speaker 1: back to bite us in the end. But you know,

479
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,680
Speaker 1: if you've got the choice, if you know you're looking

480
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 1: at the Marius Thomas, why not wait a couple of

481
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 1: rounds and go get yourselves and Emmanuel Sanders and feel

482
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,879
Speaker 1: much better about the value you're getting. Um now to

483
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,199
Speaker 1: the end, the very eight end, the last pick in

484
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Speaker 1: your draft. You know, we know that, you know, you

485
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 1: get to the end and you you wait on defenses

486
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 1: and kickers or whatever. But then there's always kind of

487
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 1: that last round pick right that guy that you're taking

488
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,400
Speaker 1: a dart throwout off the board, and I got one

489
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,159
Speaker 1: for you that I love steal it. I'm gonna be

490
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 1: so mad at you. Well now that you're telling me,

491
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I will, I make no promises. Um, I'm

492
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,639
Speaker 1: looking at Shelton Gibson. Oh okay, okay, I think you

493
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,920
Speaker 1: got a fifty seven or fifty eight yard touchdown pass

494
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,679
Speaker 1: in a preseason game, which means he's obviously gonna go

495
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,439
Speaker 1: ham this season, of course, because that's all that happens now.

496
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 1: I like this kid. I like watching him. I like

497
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,360
Speaker 1: watching one film. I like watching all the different places

498
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 1: they've lined him up at training during training camp, and

499
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 1: I think this could be one that on those weeks

500
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,880
Speaker 1: where you're like jeez, like you know, like we haven't

501
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:17,879
Speaker 1: seen anything from alshon Jeffrey yet, we we got to

502
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,199
Speaker 1: see how their need. They had ten different people on

503
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:24,119
Speaker 1: the Eagles staff that caught touchdown past us last season,

504
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 1: and seventeen different people scored a touchdown. That's ridiculous. That

505
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 1: diversity doesn't happen on every team. So this is a

506
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 1: team where I genuinely think there could be room for

507
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 1: a Shelton Gibson. I think he's actually to me for

508
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,120
Speaker 1: basically what I've seen from target percentage, I think he's

509
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,399
Speaker 1: jumped past Kamaraken, He's dumped out like there's a number

510
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 1: of people who I think he's ahead of on the

511
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 1: depth charts, because looking down that Eagles receiver depth chart

512
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 1: to mac hollands was a name that you know, I

513
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 1: know last year they were times people kind of got

514
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 1: interested in him and in the preseason or in training camp,

515
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 1: mc holland's name kind of came up. So there are

516
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 1: there are some other guys there, especially if al Sean

517
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 1: Jeffrey starts the year on the pup list, that means

518
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:04,679
Speaker 1: there are targets to be had for some of these

519
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 1: guys down the depth chart a little bit. I just

520
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 1: like a good like like sleeper pick like that that's

521
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 1: going to come up out of nowhere and be like,

522
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,679
Speaker 1: oh my goodness, Like there we go. I beat it

523
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 1: with Shelton Gibson Like that just makes me happy, right,

524
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 1: you know, And I'm definitely happy. So I was, you know,

525
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 1: poking around on the internet as I am want to do,

526
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 1: and uh, our pal friend of the show, Mike tag Leer,

527
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:25,719
Speaker 1: who we had on. Just a couple of weeks ago,

528
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 1: wrote a piece about guys you might want to target

529
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,639
Speaker 1: with the last pick in your draft, and one of

530
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 1: the names that jumped out at me, and especially after

531
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:36,360
Speaker 1: watching him last weekend, is t J. Yelden. And now,

532
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 1: if you've been, you know, following along with me, you

533
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 1: know I have never really been a huge t J.

534
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 1: You know you haven't. My My argument has been that

535
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 1: I like running backs who don't necessarily fall down of

536
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 1: their own accord. Because t J. Yelden it seems like

537
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 1: he just needed, you know, maybe to do some yoga,

538
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 1: get the balance right or something. But he catches the

539
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,400
Speaker 1: ball well and we saw a lot of that last weekend.

540
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 1: And the Jaguars I don't think have a solid number

541
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 1: two behind Leonard for Net and for all the things.

542
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,160
Speaker 1: For Nett does great and I'm a big fan of him,

543
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 1: He's not a big part of their passing game. So

544
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,160
Speaker 1: that means that t J. Yelden as a late round

545
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 1: dart throw. Why don't you have some value in PPR leagues?

546
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 1: I'm I know again, I have always been a detractor,

547
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 1: but I'm starting to maybe change by tune a little

548
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:20,959
Speaker 1: bit and buy in on t J. Yelden is kind

549
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 1: of a deep sleeper this year. I mean I'm not.

550
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 1: I'm not going to I like the reasoning for it.

551
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:30,160
Speaker 1: I have a hard time on Jaguar offense in general.

552
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 1: But if you're saying deep, deep sleeper, I'm with you. Yeah.

553
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,360
Speaker 1: I mean, like again, I'm not. I don't think you're

554
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: drafting t J Yelden and expecting him to be an

555
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 1: every week starter. I think you're drafting him. You see

556
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 1: how it works because I think about this, how many

557
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 1: times that last pick in your draft. You hold onto

558
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 1: that guy for a week or two, realize it's not

559
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 1: working out, and then you just like kind of when

560
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 1: you make a waiver pick. So they're kind of like

561
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 1: a healthy relationship actually working very healthy. You know. So

562
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 1: after a couple of weeks, you just text t J.

563
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 1: And you're like, hey, bro, it's just not working out.

564
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 1: I've I'm gonna see other running backs and uh and

565
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 1: you go on about your life. So uh yeah that

566
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 1: that'll be interesting. Why to watch there? All? Right? So

567
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 1: now a couple of individual kind of draft things. I

568
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 1: feel like we can't have a drafts dravaganza conversation without

569
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: talking about quarterbacks. Right, yeah, you know they're there. They

570
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 1: are a onesie position right now. That's at the coin

571
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 1: that I believe our friend j J. Zacharyes and the

572
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: late round quarterback has coined where you start one back way?

573
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 1: Can I say something about JJ. I really like JJ.

574
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: More baby pictures, more baby pictures. You know what he

575
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: just he just had a child. He's now I love it.

576
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: I'm actually saying more. Somebody was telling him that he

577
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 1: toured too much, like right, no, crazy more Seriously, I

578
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 1: mean j J. I think you know he's already said

579
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 1: that he's going to use his child and make her

580
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 1: into a meme exactly, doesn't Dave Damask? Does it best?

581
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 1: He like made his baby pick games, like come on,

582
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 1: the child needs to be involved? What is this? Football

583
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 1: is family? I am hashtag football is family. I am

584
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: going into my eighth season here at the sal Football League,

585
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,199
Speaker 1: and I will say one of the best pieces of

586
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 1: content we have ever done is football Baby. It's great.

587
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: Football Baby was amazing. Now football baby is like football

588
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: infant football. No more than that. Like football baby could

589
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: like throw a ball further than Daves. Football football Baby

590
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 1: has a better arm than Dave ter. So maybe JJ

591
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: can uphold the tradition of the fine football baby, right exactly.

592
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 1: Like anyway, sorry talking about quarterbacks here. You know, I

593
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 1: think it's pretty much consensus that Aaron Rodgers is the

594
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: number one quarterback off the board. Uh. You know this

595
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: new kid up in Green Bay, we'll see, we'll see

596
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 1: if he sticks around, we'll find out. But after Aaron

597
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: Rodgers has gone, who is your number two fantasy quarterback?

598
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: Right now? That's so it's funny that you ask that

599
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: question because I don't even look at like, I barely

600
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 1: write quarterbacks like and most people, a lot of people

601
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 1: wait a quarterback or I look at quarterbacks only insofar

602
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,439
Speaker 1: as are there is there an increase in RPOs this season?

603
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: Is there? What are they doing different it? I'm gonna go.

604
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I think most people would say probably Tom

605
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: Brady's number two. I would, I would guess, But I'm saying,

606
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 1: like I'm actually looking at either It's hard for me

607
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: to toss up between Russell Wilson because he ain't got

608
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 1: nobody else up there and help him out, or maybe

609
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 1: Cam Newton, but I actually kind of like Carson Wentz. Wow. Okay,

610
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 1: I know I might be in the minority here. I mean,

611
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: I don't a lot of people like him. I haven't

612
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: seen him go that high. That's a that's a bold.

613
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: It's a little bold. It's a little bold. It's a

614
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 1: little spicy, little bold. And I also always believe Drew

615
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: Brees is never gets the respect that he deserves. Yeah,

616
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: from the fantasy community. This is here where he has

617
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: definitely fallen back a little bit. And and the way

618
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: I look at it is because like last year, that

619
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 1: team changed in the sense that you know, they ran

620
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 1: the ball more between and their defense is good. Yeah,

621
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: Camaron Ingram ran the ball, their defense was It wasn't

622
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: like Breeze needed to go out and put up forty

623
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: five points a game for the Saints to be successful.

624
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: And I think if they continue with that recipe, it's

625
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: a such suation where Drew Brees will be a good

626
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: real football player and maybe just an okay fantasy player.

627
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: And I think I think that's the distinctions as people

628
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 1: like like put him outside their top twelve, Right, if

629
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: there's typically twelve people in your league, people like, oh no,

630
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: he's not at our top. He's nice. Backup, I'm like,

631
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: name me eleven better than him. That's ridiculous. He's still

632
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: in my top ten. He's just he's kind of in

633
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: the back half of my top ten, but he's still

634
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: in my top ten. So to me, it's like cameras

635
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: that's I mean, Cameras Carson like those are. It's not Tom.

636
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: I'm sorry I have it's not Tom for me either.

637
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: I've I've landed on Russell Wilson a lot um. I

638
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: can make a case for Cam although I just worry

639
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: that you know, at some point they are going to

640
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: They're not gonna I don't think there's a way to

641
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: purposely rain him in from running because he has been

642
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: the Panther's best goal line back for the last three

643
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: or four years. But I just worry because he's taken

644
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 1: a lot of punishment when he runs the football, and

645
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: I wonder if he's going to maybe start to slow

646
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: down just a little bit. But I don't know. I

647
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: saw I saw him person, I was like, uh, nope,

648
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: that he's that's he's bigger than the market. He is

649
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,959
Speaker 1: still huge. I don't know. I I guess I don't know.

650
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: I want him to be I want him to be

651
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: awesome still, I think a lot of us do. So

652
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens there um now one of the rookies, right,

653
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: So obviously there was there was a lot of hype

654
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: about this rookie running back class, right, and when when

655
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: everybody was drafted and we got to training camp, you know,

656
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: there was so much excitement about I mean, we knew

657
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: about Sa Kwan, right, and I've I've kind of separated

658
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: him from the rest of the group. Right, there's the

659
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 1: Se Kwon division, and then there's the non Sa Kuan division, Right,

660
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: So we were so excited about guys like Darius Guys

661
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: and Ronald Jones and Royce Freeman, and you keep going,

662
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: all these guys in the in this draft class. As

663
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: we've gotten to the start of the season, now guys

664
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: unfortunately is hurt and out for the year. Ronald Jones

665
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: so far in training camp has been a disappointment. Nick

666
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: Chubb has really been nowhere to be found in Cleveland,

667
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: I mean bless Yeah, I mean it's been He's been

668
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: the Jarvis Land interesting, Karlos High and because come back

669
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: almost from the fantasy dead now to be a thing again.

670
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: So like outside of Kon now, which which rookie running

671
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: backs have really caught your eye in this thing? I

672
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: as a person from Michigan. This pains me because I'm actually,

673
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: like take a lot of pride in being a suffering

674
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: lines fan, so having hope it's like really very difficult

675
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: for me. Carry on Johnson though, that could be one

676
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: of your later Like theoretic gets hurt a lot, so

677
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 1: carry on Johnson could actually be kind of that, Like

678
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: I'm not calling him a bell cow, but he could

679
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: be that volume guy that pads your team in the

680
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: middle somewhere, you know, in the middle of the season

681
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: when theoretic is God forbid but probably heard or something's happened,

682
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: like like Garrett Blunt might steal the goal line carries

683
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: and you know, stop thinking Matt Patricia is going to

684
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: do everything just like the Patriots on offense, because that's

685
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: just it have the same author It's not gonna happen.

686
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: But I mean between I don't know, a Merabullah hurt often,

687
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: the ritic hurt often. I think Karen Johnson might have

688
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: a real chance here. Yeah, and you had that pains.

689
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: He was not big on Carrie on Johnson coming out

690
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: of the draft, though there was I thought he was,

691
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: you know, kind of good at a lot of things.

692
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: I didn't think he was great at any one thing,

693
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: and having stuck in that backfield with Garrett Blunt and

694
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: you mentioned Abdullah and theo Ritic, it just didn't seem

695
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: like there was opportunity there. But you might be right.

696
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: I think I think the path is slowly being cleared

697
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: for Carrie on Johnson to kind of get something. Also,

698
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: like I also hate to give the lines any shine

699
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: here either because they're terrible, but the their old line.

700
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 1: I mean, Frank rag Now that was their first round

701
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: draft pick, he's the guard. He's been better on the

702
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: left side Taylor Decker's back from injury. Like, old lines

703
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: are everything when it comes to both quarterbacks, meaning opportunity

704
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: for your wide receivers in passing situations and your tight end,

705
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: and also for your running back. Like if you have

706
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: a crappy old line, you're running back has a really

707
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: bad chance to do well. Asked Joe Mixon. Look at that.

708
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: For all the all the hype around Joe Mixon and

709
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: all his talent last year, the Bengals couldn't open up

710
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 1: holes for him and he was a non factor fantasy wise. Okay,

711
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: any any Rickie quarterbacks or tight ends that you were looking,

712
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: I mean, they're they're rookie quarterbacks were making headlines. Doesn't

713
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: necessarily mean they're gonna be fantasy relevant this year. And

714
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: we know tight ends are sort of hit and miss

715
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: in their first year. But anybody from those two groups

716
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: that has caught your eye. I always gotta look at Dallas.

717
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: I like, this is so weird. It's a weird. It's

718
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: hard to even say. Actually, I'm going to say something

719
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: about Miami, and I've said stay away from Miami, and

720
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: I remained stay away from Miami. But you could for

721
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: later in the season, not the beginning of the season,

722
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,239
Speaker 1: but later in the season, you might want to take

723
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: a look at anything Miami does with tight ends. Gasecki

724
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: he was their pick, and I don't think he could

725
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: he could become more of a factor. I don't know,

726
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: But if you look at the past and like the

727
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: Adam Gates offense and the strategy, if they're able to

728
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: earn first sounds good chance they're using their tight end.

729
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: I mean, he made Zach Miller thing a couple of

730
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: years ago, right, So that's one that I'm looking at.

731
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: But I don't know. You always got to see what's

732
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: going on in Dallas. We don't know who's gonna catch

733
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 1: any passes. But I think that could be one that

734
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: could emerge later on. Again, not nothing for now. Yeah,

735
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: I'm cure. Now I do like the sicky. I mean,

736
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: he's kind of the one guy that I said out

737
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 1: of the draft of the NFL Draft that that could

738
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: make an impact as a rookie. I'm starting to kind

739
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: of buy into Hayden Hurst a little bit in Baltimore.

740
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 1: Maybe it's because I just like the red hair coming

741
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: out of the back of his helmet. Um that I

742
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: actually think like the crab Tree element, there's the one

743
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 1: that's really emerged me. Like I think the Ravens. I

744
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: think crab Tree is undervalued. So I would say away

745
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: from Hayden Hurst more than I like crab Sheet more

746
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: than I like Hayden her sense. I also have believing

747
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,399
Speaker 1: in the hashtag fle connaissance, like I mean, it's coming back, right,

748
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: It's coming back this year. Also, I'm very interested to

749
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,359
Speaker 1: watch the Eagles. We will see them on Thursday night

750
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 1: against the Cleveland Brown So depending on when you listen

751
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 1: to this podcast, that game may have already been played.

752
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: What and if and if it has it was wondering

753
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 1: it was fantastic was a great game that was fantast

754
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: a tight end of choice. David Joku is undervalue, but

755
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: what is another thing? But I would say I'm insure

756
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: to see how the Eagles used Alice Goddard. I mean,

757
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: I know zach Ertz is their main tight end, but

758
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: we saw them use two tight ends a lot last year,

759
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: which helped Trey Burton give himself a nice deal in Chicago.

760
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: So I'm curious to see how they used Alas Goddard

761
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: and whether or not he's ready to take on that

762
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: that sort of Trey Burton role in the offense. I

763
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: have a question for you about Jordan Read. I know

764
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: it's not he's not a rookie. Do you think he's

765
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: gonna play like ever eventually, yeah, more or less than

766
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,760
Speaker 1: six games. I'm gonna go more, but less than ten, Okay,

767
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 1: so like eight games, eight or nine games. That's something

768
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: really important to know. When it kind of is important

769
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: to know, I mean, it's like a big, big, big deal.

770
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 1: I don't think you know, did you take David Joku

771
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Speaker 1: or would you take or would you take Jordan? Thank

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Speaker 1: you for reminding me of his name that I forgot

773
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: to win. I would probably would probably just go with

774
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Speaker 1: David and Joku, just because I don't want to have

775
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 1: to deal with that I would take I just don't

776
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 1: want to have to deal with that fear there, So

777
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,280
Speaker 1: that's gonna be. Yeah, That's that's what I'm really curious about.

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Speaker 1: So that's our thoughts about some of these draft strategies.

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Speaker 1: Talk a little bit more about it. But first, a

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00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 1: man who has a lot of draft strategies, we will

802
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: go to the phones. Join now by one of my

803
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 1: favorite people. I say this a lot, but this really

804
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: is one of my favorite people in the fantasy Twitter space.

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00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: It is Bob Harris. You can find him on Twitter,

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Speaker 1: at Football die Hard h You can find his work

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Speaker 1: at Football die Hard. You can hear him on Sirius

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Speaker 1: XM Radio. He and the folks over at Football Die

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Speaker 1: Hards every year. If you want a physical copy, if

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Speaker 1: you need to be one of those people who has

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Speaker 1: a physical copy of a magazine to take into your

812
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: fantasy draft with you. They do a great job over there.

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Speaker 1: Also a little bit of shameless self promotion. I helped

814
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: contribute some things. I was part of their mock draft.

815
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: I wrote some things for them. So uh, in a

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00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: little bit of shameless self promotion. I'm gonna get myself

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Speaker 1: in there too, so make sure you pick that up

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Speaker 1: to if that's what you like to do. Bob. I

819
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: appreciate you coming on. Thank you for the time. How

820
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 1: are you today? I'm fantastic and you better. I have

821
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Speaker 1: to mess up up just to keep the car Man

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Speaker 1: balance exactly. Um, I want to start. You said recently

823
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: on one of your shows that you're talking about Adrian Peterson.

824
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 1: Obviously he just signed in Washington, and you said, Adrian

825
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: Peterson is the guy you talk up and get someone

826
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 1: else to own while you're drafting fit Rob Kelly later on,

827
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: I think that tells me everything that I need to

828
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: know about how you feel about Adrian Peterson. But so

829
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: is this because you don't believe in a D or

830
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 1: is this because you you have you believe in Rob Kelly. Look,

831
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 1: you don't get to be as old as I am

832
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 1: by going around tugging carelessly on or needlessly on the

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00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 1: cape of Superman. It's not wise at this point, though

834
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: not as super Look, I mean, and here's the thing.

835
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 1: I mean, we you know, Fantasy owners in general, you

836
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: know is a is a group and I am part

837
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 1: of this group. SOO, this is about me too. You know,

838
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: we were like shark. You put a drop of blood

839
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: and the water and we all, you know, make haste

840
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: to get there. But we are also a little less sharky,

841
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 1: more fishy, and that you throw a lure in the

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00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: water and we all run to that easily quickly, right

843
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: And and so I think Peterson might be a case

844
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 1: of more lure than blood for me. And so look,

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00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 1: I think it's not like I'm saying he can't do well.

846
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: I'm saying if we look at maybe last year his

847
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Speaker 1: running Arizona, where there were two games that gave you

848
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Speaker 1: just enough hope to keep playing him, and then the

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00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 1: other games were, you know, one yard to carry, one

850
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Speaker 1: point nine yard of carry, one point four yard to

851
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 1: carry one point nine. I mean, I think he's more

852
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: that guy than the four plus yard per carry guy,

853
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: which maybe another Washington hell, I I don't know, but

854
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: but I've already seen the switch. I'm gonna draft right now.

855
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: It's a bizarre IDP league so over you know, in

856
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Speaker 1: the twenty of something round. But right after you know,

857
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: the signing he was he was immediately drafted, And I

858
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,399
Speaker 1: got Rob Kelly about five rounds later, and I'll take

859
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 1: that all day, you know. And I think the guy

860
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Speaker 1: that we have stopped talking about for some reason is

861
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: some I JP Ryan and not that. Not that he's great,

862
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 1: you know, but he's not out for the year. He's

863
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: gonna come back. And I feel like, even if he's

864
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,280
Speaker 1: not special, he's enough I feel like to wreck somebody

865
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Speaker 1: else's season. I just feel like somehow we have just

866
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Speaker 1: excluded him from this whole conversation. And Byron Marshall, I mean, look,

867
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Speaker 1: a do you think could happen in running back? Right?

868
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Speaker 1: And I guess you know, the telling thing for me

869
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Speaker 1: is the way he's paid. I mean, he's paid. That's

870
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Speaker 1: what he is. A guy who has to show them

871
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Speaker 1: he can contribute to make the roster or he's not

872
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: getting paid and they're not out any money. So look,

873
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Speaker 1: I I would love to see him come back again

874
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 1: as a fellow, old fellow. It would be grand to

875
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: see us succeed on a big level. But my expectations

876
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: are fairly low. They were last year. Uh he I

877
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Speaker 1: thought the two games for Arizona were surprisingly effective, and

878
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: you know, some of that was a blocking, some of

879
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: that was clearly he broke off some longer runs. I

880
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: think he's more you know, my friend Matt Walman, a

881
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 1: football guys, wrote a piece about this and Bankley said,

882
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Speaker 1: he's more of the you know, he'll break the off

883
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: a thirty yard or he's not breaking off there. That's

884
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,439
Speaker 1: kind of it. So you talk about signings and looking

885
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 1: down at Tennessee, Richard Matthews just recently signed a deal

886
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: with the Titans, kind of an extension down there, and yeah,

887
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: people are trying to figure out what to make of

888
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: it because it's not a whole lot of money, it's

889
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 1: not a big deal. But Richard Matthews has sort of

890
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,439
Speaker 1: been one of those, you know, those late round picks

891
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: that fantasy analysts have kind of glommed onto. I mean,

892
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: is there anything are re reading too much into this signing?

893
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: Is there anything to make about this deal that Richard

894
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: Matthews and the Titans came to. No. I think it

895
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,320
Speaker 1: was the thing that's the feeling about Chard Matthews is

896
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: he has some demonstrated chemistry with Marcus Mariotto, which not

897
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 1: a lot of other receivers there have, at least in

898
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,760
Speaker 1: game conditions. He's hearing some great things about Taywan Taylor

899
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: we hear all hearing the great things about Corey Davis.

900
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 1: We know that Richard Matthews has not been on the

901
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,399
Speaker 1: field yet. So if you're you know, if you want

902
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:51,919
Speaker 1: a piece of that but you don't want to pay

903
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: for it right now, Matthew should be that guy who

904
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 1: should be staking down a little bit. And I do

905
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: think there'll be a role given the signing. Um, but

906
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: there are there are some other talent us there, and uh,

907
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: I think the hope for us is that some of

908
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 1: that talent emerges. Um. Taylor in in particular, said all

909
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 1: my dynasty rosters and uh, and then Matthews just kind

910
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: of remains what he's been and and that would be

911
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: kind of my expectation all those this offense is gonna evolve,

912
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: you know, Bob. I feel like in the last couple

913
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: of weeks, we've started to hear more out of Tennessee.

914
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Speaker 1: I mean, you mentioned that the Richard Matthews signing, You

915
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: mentioned he Wan Taylor. We know about their backfield situation.

916
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: Corey Davis has been everybody's favorite sleeper wide receiver. Uh.

917
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: And I know you you actually had Terry McCormick, the

918
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: beat writer for the Titans, on your show recently. Are

919
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: are we overlooking this offense? Is there may be more

920
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 1: in Tennessee than we're giving them credit for. I don't know.

921
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 1: I think we're kind of like we're all intrigued by it. Look,

922
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: I hard him back to the era of Frank Coyle,

923
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: the old draft analysts who used to have the Hindu

924
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: theory that you know, this guy is going to be

925
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Speaker 1: the next this guy. And I think we do that.

926
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 1: This is analysts and fans with offenses as well. And

927
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: so we watched the success in San Francisco last year

928
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 1: with Kyle Annahan. We watched the success of the Rams

929
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: with Sean McVeigh. And then we see in Chicago a

930
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: new offensive mindy coach. We think great. And then we

931
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: see in Tennessee or look, the exotic sex mash Mouth

932
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 1: had gone way more smash mouth than exotic uh in

933
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: recent time. And we see Matt Lafleur, who who has

934
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Speaker 1: worked with both you know, Sean McBain and Kyle Shanahan,

935
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 1: and we have some hope it's something that calls to

936
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: hang our collective fantasy hats on. They've been a run

937
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: first team during all of Mariotta's first three seasons and

938
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: and and look at my rabels history to playing for

939
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick in the past versus offense and playing for

940
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 1: coaching with Bill O'Brien, it's, you know, it's a similar things.

941
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Speaker 1: And so you bring in Lafleur's time as an assistant

942
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: with McVeagh and Shanahan, both very past heavy coaches, and

943
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 1: and at least you you would expect a more balanced approach,

944
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: a little less run heavy. And the arrival of Ian

945
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,439
Speaker 1: Lewis suggests the same as well. So I do think

946
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: it's something we need to pay attention to here because

947
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: I think there is gonna be some change coming. And

948
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: maybe it's not the that you can only draft the

949
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: top two targets, right, maybe you can draft three or

950
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 1: four deep on this talking about Harris senior editor at

951
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: Football Diehards, also a host on Sirius XM Radio. Now, Bob,

952
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: you and I had the good fortune to hang out

953
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 1: in person last week in Canton, Ohio for the King's

954
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,320
Speaker 1: Classic Draft, and we talk a lot about the conventional

955
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: kind of snake serpentine drafts here, but we also did

956
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 1: an option along with that, and I know that's you know,

957
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 1: it's gaining in popularity, but I know there are a

958
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: lot of people who don't do them, or maybe encountering

959
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: them for the first time. So if if you were

960
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: talking to somebody going into their first auction draft, what

961
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,720
Speaker 1: what advice, what sort of strategies would you have for them? Well,

962
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 1: two things. I would just reminded that you know, this

963
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 1: is a draft where you have a chance to get

964
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: every single player. It's not like a snake where I mean,

965
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 1: just by the nature of the draft you're gonna lose

966
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: out on a lot of prospects. You have a chance

967
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 1: to get it on everyone. The second piece of advice

968
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: I would give is is do as I say, not

969
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,439
Speaker 1: as I do, because I'm as easily kind of and

970
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: and draft needs. It's so funny because I look back

971
00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: at this, the auction that we were in, and you

972
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: a lot of the things that happened. Look, I'm aggressive

973
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: in bidding people up. Nobody gets a free pass when

974
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: I'm drafting. There is no minimum bids if I can

975
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: help it. Similarly, there's no you know, Chief Aaron Rodgers,

976
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: and so you know, I got a little fun of

977
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 1: that one. I had no intention of of biding on

978
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 1: him that high, but I was. It seems to be rolling.

979
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 1: But that's the thing you early in draft. A lot

980
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,280
Speaker 1: of money flies off the board, a lot of emotion

981
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,479
Speaker 1: if you can be a little and I was trying

982
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 1: to leverage that by bidding up, but if you can

983
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: sit back a little bit. Never fell at this draft.

984
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:36,439
Speaker 1: His name was Marcus Grant. Had a lot of money

985
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,720
Speaker 1: at the end, and you know Brad Evans from Yahoo,

986
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: but he kind of put it, you know, he wants

987
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 1: to be the bully. I think you had you know,

988
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: you had the bully, uh, bully bucks there and that's

989
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: kind of the goal, is to have that money at

990
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 1: the end. There's gonna be a ton of players. And

991
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: if you see the guy some of the bigger names

992
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: going off, don't panic, uh, you know, sit back, keeper

993
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: reserves in place, and get in on the bidding heavily

994
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: when everyone else has the minished there or resources a bit. Uh.

995
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: All the other format that is gaining in popularity that

996
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 1: maybe not everybody has gotten hip to quite yet is

997
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: the best ball leagues. And I know, you know, the

998
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: the mfl's, the MFL tens have gained popularity. It's it's

999
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,479
Speaker 1: wild to see, you know, the day after the Super Bowl,

1000
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: people are already drafting best ball leagues. But when you're

1001
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 1: when you're looking at a best ball league versus say

1002
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: a conventional draft, what sort of things should people be

1003
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: looking out for? What kind of prospect should they be

1004
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: looking out for? In those leagues? Right, we're looking for

1005
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: the best ball of year players, right, so the guys

1006
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 1: that are because it's a set and forget league. So

1007
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: you draft your league. There is no roster management, there

1008
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 1: is no lineups required. Your best lineup is selected from

1009
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,879
Speaker 1: what the scores are, so you can grab those kind

1010
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: of spikes players later on in draft that are going

1011
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 1: to have the big game here and there. You know,

1012
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 1: some of the quintessential bestball guys Mike Wallace hed Gin, Uh,

1013
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 1: goal linebacks have a tendency to show up for a game,

1014
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 1: you know, maybe get two or three touchdowns, and you

1015
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: don't have to predict when that happened. You just have

1016
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: to know that it does happen at some point. And

1017
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 1: so I think the fun thing for me about best

1018
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: balls and yes guilty, I was in there right after

1019
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and my my serious co host Mike

1020
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 1: depty though is up to a hundred and fifty now,

1021
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 1: so id on to his level yet but but I'm

1022
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: getting there. Um, but yeah, I kind of use it

1023
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: as the laboratory for my season long draft. In terms

1024
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 1: of the first half of the draft, it's pretty similar

1025
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 1: to a regular draft, and uh it's kind of in

1026
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: the second half and with the late round flyers that

1027
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 1: you try and you know, toss, the dartic guys that

1028
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 1: maybe have a little something you know, and I mean

1029
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 1: in these drafts, it's not unusual to see Jeremy Hill

1030
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 1: go late. It's not unusual to see wide receivers that

1031
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: you know, maybe you're gonna show up once once or

1032
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 1: twice a year. Uh. You know, John Ross might go

1033
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: just based on his speed alone and the hope that

1034
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: he can catch a long one. So I think those

1035
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 1: are the kind of uh, the kind of changes you make.

1036
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 1: You you get a little, you get way you can

1037
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: go way deep on your dark tosses in the second

1038
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 1: half of the draft and you never have to worry

1039
00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 1: about lining them up at the right time. It happens.

1040
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,760
Speaker 1: Are you automatically? I love that part, Oh Bob, I'll

1041
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: let you go. One thing I like to always ask

1042
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 1: my guest, I I when I call the pick of

1043
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: pop the thing in pop culture whatever it is a movie,

1044
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 1: a book, a TV show that you are digging right

1045
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: now that you feel like you got to share with

1046
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 1: the rest of the world. So look, I've live in Albuquerque,

1047
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 1: sto breaking back fan. I love better call Saul right now.

1048
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 1: I think everyone should watch it, but I need to

1049
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 1: go off the board with this. There's a uh show

1050
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 1: I watched as a child that was one of my

1051
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: favorite things, stuck in my memory forever still and uh

1052
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 1: And it was a show called Cold Chapter, Nice Stocker

1053
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: and one of the most amazing things that I've seen

1054
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: in the last couple of years. It was last offseason.

1055
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Speaker 1: You went through and you did ink in every episode

1056
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Speaker 1: a thorough and very I did a spot on review

1057
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Speaker 1: of every single show. Go to Marcus Grant dot com. Everybody,

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Speaker 1: go to the blocks rolled down a little bit if

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Speaker 1: you want to be thoroughly entertained and revisit something from

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00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 1: the past, like I screamed every week when I watched

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Speaker 1: Out of the thirteen year Old. I screamed with laughter

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00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: as I read it. If you catch this things spot on,

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00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: great job of that. I'm going to read them all

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Speaker 1: again now that I've really looked at him. Oh, the

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Speaker 1: checks in the mail, Bob, I appreciate that that was

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Speaker 1: It was something I did as just in the off

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Speaker 1: season to keep myself interested, just something to the past

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Speaker 1: the time, and oddly enough it found an audience, which

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Speaker 1: is sort of weird, but I appreciate that. It's with me.

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Speaker 1: I was the audience to all those forty burner accounts

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Speaker 1: that I was encouraging you to do more from Oh man,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate. So yeah, now I will so everybody. I

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Speaker 1: will tweet out the link for it to anybody who's

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Speaker 1: interested in reading it. Go back, and it was. It

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Speaker 1: was a fun thing to do, and so I appreciate that, Bob.

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00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 1: But there's always great stuff, Bob Harris. Look forward to

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Speaker 1: seeing you on the internet, sir can't wait. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: to Thanks to Bob Harris for his time. You can

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Speaker 1: check him out on Twitter at football die Hard. You

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00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 1: can read his work at Football die Hard. You can

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Speaker 1: also hear him on Sirius XM Radio Always Happy. He's

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00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: one of my favorite people, Bob. He's just great people. Yeah,

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00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 1: and he absolutely is. So I was. I'm glad you've

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00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 1: spent some time with him in Canton about a week ago,

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Speaker 1: and so uh, it was a lot of fun. So

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Speaker 1: I'm glad to have him on the podcast. Anyway, we've

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00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,919
Speaker 1: been talking draft strategies, and you know the thing about

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00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 1: it is there's always these guys late in the draft

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Speaker 1: or the guys you see in the preseason that get

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00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: a lot of hype, right, they get a lot of excitement,

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00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 1: But the question is is it real? Is it imagine?

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00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: Are they a hero? Are they a hype bunny? Give

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00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: me that drum loop? All right, So here's some guys

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Speaker 1: I just want to get your thoughts just real quick,

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00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 1: whether you think they're a hero or a hype bunny.

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00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 1: We'll start in Carolina. Curtis Samuel hype funny, HiPE bunny.

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00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 1: So you're not you're not buying, Curtis Samuel vision. I

1098
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 1: would like to know save for a few games here,

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00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 1: there tell me some consistency of wide receivers in Carolina

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Speaker 1: over the past three years. Oh wait, great, wait, great, alright,

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00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 1: So moving on to Arizona rookie wide receiver Christian Kirk

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00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: hero or hype bunny. This one's like this one's like

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00:50:55,120 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 1: a a hero wrapped in a hype bunny. Because I

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00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 1: think they're gonna need someone to catch passes in Arizona.

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00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 1: I'm not sure who it's going to be, and if

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00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 1: it's Josh Rosen, I think that rookie to rookie connection

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00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: is could be a valuable They've been practicing together, so

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00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: to me, that could make him hero. But I think

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00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 1: he's in hype funny hi bunny clothing. I will say

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00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: that if you play in a league where you get

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00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: yards and touchdowns for individual kick returners, Christian Kirk I

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00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: think has a little more value. I know not everybody

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00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 1: plays in those leagues, but if you do, that's a

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00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: guy to keep an eye on. Uh. In Pittsburgh, James

1115
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 1: Washington has made some really dope catches in the preseason.

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00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,399
Speaker 1: Is he a hero or a hype bunny? He's a

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00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 1: preseason all star, That's what I think. All Right, stay away.

1118
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm a Debbie downer over. You really are,

1119
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 1: Like I started the show on a downer, now you're in.

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00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 1: I think I think we were made to be partners

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Speaker 1: on this here. Okay, Lenn's stay in Pittsburgh with James Conner,

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00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 1: the running back that ostensibly is the number two behind

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Speaker 1: Levian Bell, He's been great in the preseason. Is he

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Speaker 1: a hero or a hype bunny. Thanks all star. Um alright,

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00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 1: a guy that I started to kind of catch onto lately,

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00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 1: I do, um John Kelly in Los Angeles. We know,

1127
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 1: we know it's going to be all about Todd Gurley,

1128
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: but if you are into handcuffing running backs and something,

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00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 1: not that I'm wishing it, but if something were to

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00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: happen to Todd Gurley, John Kelly seems like the guy.

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00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 1: How you feeling about it? How many bench spots do

1132
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 1: you have? Because if you're going to do that handcuff,

1133
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 1: it's a great handcuff to have. But if you only

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00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: have like five bench spots, I probably would just keep

1135
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 1: an eye on. If you don't exactly exactly, probably gonna

1136
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: keep it on. Not who's had a big preseason, especially

1137
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 1: last week couple of touchdown catches Taiwan Taylor in Tennessee.

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00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 1: That's for you, and I just love it, hero or

1139
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 1: high bunny for for Taywan Taylor. Okay, So I don't

1140
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: hate him, Okay, I remember watching like his draft stuff

1141
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: is interesting, very interesting. He could be an impactful player

1142
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: here and we don't know anything about the Titans, like

1143
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: we don't know anything. So again, depth of your bench

1144
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:11,800
Speaker 1: this could be this could this one could be a

1145
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 1: bit of a hero, but not a Week one type

1146
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: of look at like not a I don't know. That

1147
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 1: could be an end of your draft. That could be

1148
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: a great end of draft pick. All right, a couple

1149
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 1: more here, we'll go with Jordan Wilkins in the Colds

1150
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,919
Speaker 1: back field, Marlon Max. There there's been a battle behind

1151
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: him between Jordan Wilkins and I. He behind looks like

1152
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 1: Jordan Wilkins is taking the lead. You real high, bunny,

1153
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 1: or just stay away from the Colts back day, away

1154
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: from the call, stay away from this next one to

1155
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: h Yeah, the burd alert really Albert Wilson like he's

1156
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: been hyped up in Miami, and mostly because you know me,

1157
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,399
Speaker 1: can I spend some money on spend some money on him?

1158
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: But I just like yelling burd alert whenever he does something.

1159
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 1: But I guess you're telling me he's in a high. Funny, kay,

1160
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 1: you want to know my fun fact about Albert Wilson. Okay,

1161
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: So when I was tracking him, you can see he

1162
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 1: visibly gains weight or he didn't. He was in at

1163
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, right, it must be on the barbecue r

1164
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 1: um when he gained weight, they wouldn't put him on

1165
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,839
Speaker 1: longer routes and he would get almost no targets. When

1166
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,760
Speaker 1: he was thin, he would run longer. It was amazing,

1167
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 1: It was amazing. Let's just see, like maybe South Florida,

1168
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 1: like he's got to keep it. You know, there's no

1169
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:21,800
Speaker 1: winter sweaters, there's no sweater weather, so maybe he could

1170
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:23,879
Speaker 1: be a you know, a later round kind of guy.

1171
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:25,800
Speaker 1: Mariech Jones. Drew told me when he worked he trained

1172
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 1: in South in South Florida because you always gotta keep

1173
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 1: it tight, like all year long. Well, yeah, because there's

1174
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 1: bathing suit season all year a year long. Um Umner,

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00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: New York, Wayne Gallman. He's gonna be the number two

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00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 1: behind se Kwon Barkley. We know that for sure. I

1177
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 1: was never a huge fan, but he's playing well here

1178
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 1: over hype funny, so I think he's going to be

1179
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: that thing that means that, like the reason you don't

1180
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: overdraft Sea Kwan Barkley is because of a Wayne Coleman,

1181
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 1: not because like I think, I don't think he's going

1182
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,439
Speaker 1: to be something that's going to contribute heavily to your

1183
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: fantasy team. I think it's just remember that he's there

1184
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 1: when you're thinking about taking Sakewad Barkley first, overall, what

1185
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: you shouldn't do right exactly? There you go. Last one,

1186
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 1: Chris Warren the Third. His father was an outstanding running

1187
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: back in his day, and now Chris Warren the Third

1188
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,879
Speaker 1: making some noise in Raiders preseason. I mean, yes, there's

1189
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,839
Speaker 1: beast Mode and there's Doug Martin. They got beast Mode

1190
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Speaker 1: and Muscle Hamster. It's like a it's like a zoo

1191
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 1: back there and in the Raiders back. I don't know,

1192
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,320
Speaker 1: we gotta come up with a name for well, it

1193
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: might be it might be hype bunny, it might be

1194
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 1: hype funny, or or would it be a hero. I

1195
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 1: think it's a hype funny. Yeah, I mean, yeah, you

1196
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 1: got I mean Mussell Hampster looked great in person, and

1197
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 1: so does obviously beast Mode. You get that name for

1198
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 1: no reason. So I just think that it's just you crowded. No,

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Speaker 1: I would agree. I think there's I just don't think

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Speaker 1: there's enough. That was like all I didn't say a

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00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: single one that there's no hero. I know him the

1202
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 1: worst no heroes. He's just a bunch of just a

1203
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 1: bunch of you know of civilians, just a bunch of

1204
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 1: preseason all stars. Man, there we go. So the preseason

1205
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 1: pretty much just coming to an end for a lot

1206
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 1: of people. Will you know again, this is the third

1207
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: week we'll see the starters for a long time in

1208
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 1: most of these games. Of course, in the week four

1209
00:55:57,760 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 1: the preseason, we probably won't see any starters at all.

1210
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Speaker 1: I know one question before we go, what's that? How

1211
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 1: do you feel about Baker Mayfield and the underwear slash Tiger?

1212
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 1: Like you, of all people, probably have a take I

1213
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 1: care about. I immediately thought of the old l O

1214
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 1: Coo J walking with a Panther album cover. Um. I

1215
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 1: also want to know, like, how do the Browns feel

1216
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 1: about their number one overall pick walking around with you know,

1217
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 1: I bet they love it with like you know, pray

1218
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 1: with predators and stuff like that. That seems, uh, you know,

1219
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:26,879
Speaker 1: sort of risky, right. I just like I just want

1220
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:28,879
Speaker 1: to see, like how the other guys on the team

1221
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: have handled Like there, it's got to be like the

1222
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,359
Speaker 1: same size as the Sam Donald post or there's gotta

1223
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,439
Speaker 1: be like in the room right right, Like somebody's gotta

1224
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:38,720
Speaker 1: be doing funny stuff about it. I'm guessing it's probably

1225
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 1: David and Joeku just based on you know, watching on

1226
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks and stuff. It's definitely not to Rod. I'm

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Speaker 1: actually I'm hashtag hashtag. Let Baker live, you know, Let

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Speaker 1: Baker live, Baker. Let that dude be so A fun podcast,

1229
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,360
Speaker 1: always fun, haven't you hear? Cynthia? You know what, Wednesdays

1230
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: this season are going to be the best day of

1231
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 1: both of our weeks. That's the day we're on Fantasy

1232
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: Life together. Oh every week, set Wednesday market down in

1233
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:07,399
Speaker 1: your calendar. Put her on the board. Thanks to Bob

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00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 1: Harris things of course of Synthia Freeland. Thanks to both

1235
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 1: producer Christina. We will miss you. Where are you going?

1236
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 1: I will miss you guys too. I'll still be around,

1237
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 1: not with this podcast. Pot are you doing now? I

1238
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 1: haven't been assigned to any all right, so we'll come

1239
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: in like hang out with us. So thanks to her,

1240
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 1: Thanks to Eddie Spaghetti as well. As we get out

1241
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 1: of here, I always remember time waits for no one.

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Speaker 1: There's a draft room. We'll see you on Monday.