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Speaker 1: Isaiah Stanback, heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeoman's.

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Speaker 1: It's the normal crew as always. You're on this Christmas week,

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Speaker 1: and then the great Cowboys insider Fret fresh off of

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Speaker 1: his phone call with one oh five three the fan

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. I've tried, I've learned. I've been

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Speaker 1: here at this company for two years and I feel

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Speaker 1: like that's one of the first lessons that you learn

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Speaker 1: But Boys, I mean, there's a lot of news for

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys over the last about twenty four hours, I

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Speaker 1: guess since we last recorded this, and some of it

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Speaker 1: has to do with injuries, some of it has to

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Speaker 1: do with what the owner said on one oh five

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Speaker 1: three before Rob Phillips was on there, and we'll talk

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Speaker 1: about what Jerry Jones said in his interview this morning.

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Speaker 1: But we also saw that anything can happen in the

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Speaker 1: NFL last night, as on Monday Night football. Did raise

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Speaker 1: your hand if any of you guys thought that the

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Speaker 1: Bengals were going to take down this Steelers? Anybody anybody

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Speaker 1: and points yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I bench Roethlisberger yesterday.

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Speaker 1: I bench Roethlisberger in my fantasy So that tells you

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Speaker 1: everything you need to know. We picked that game. We

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Speaker 1: did not because I didn't think, no, no, none of

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Speaker 1: us would have picked the Bengals in that game at all.

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Speaker 1: There's no way any four of us would have picked him.

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Speaker 1: I guess you could have. That was kind of suggesting

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Speaker 1: he did. Yeah, there's no way, I said, Ben Roethlisberger

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Speaker 1: against Cincinnati. What does that tell you about my confidence

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Speaker 1: level in that game. Your confidence level is very low

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Speaker 1: already because you are in last place of our pickums.

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Speaker 1: So I'm with you, buddy, because we're brother, we're happy,

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Speaker 1: and we're seeing the base base in the dweller. Whenever

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Speaker 1: it comes to the to the pick ums, well, we'll

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Speaker 1: get to our pickums on Thursday. But uh yeah, anything

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Speaker 1: can happen with the U with the NFL any given week,

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Speaker 1: and we saw that yesterday with the Bengals taken down

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Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers. But I get into a couple of

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Speaker 1: cowboys notes here, guys. Is yesterday Mike McCarthy talked about

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Speaker 1: Layton vander Esh who suffered a bit of an ankle injury.

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Speaker 1: Was not any kind of break. It was a sprain

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Speaker 1: is what they originally had marked it at rob But

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Speaker 1: what are you hearing about Layton Vanderesh And what did

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Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy have to say about that first round linebacker's

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Speaker 1: injury again yesterday? Well he I think Layton said after

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Speaker 1: the game he told Nickiedman he thought it was high ankle.

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Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy didn't termine it as such. But if it's

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Speaker 1: high ankle or not, if there's some ligament damage, there

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Speaker 1: gonna be tough to come back this week, and Mike

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Speaker 1: McCarthy said it could be a couple of weeks. Well,

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Speaker 1: see what happens. They'll take a closer look at him

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Speaker 1: to give it a go. But Mike McCarthy didn't sound

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Speaker 1: too confident that that Layton would be ready to go

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Speaker 1: You know, Layton's got the longest shot probably to play

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Speaker 1: Layton Vanderesh, because we've we've been critical of the linebackers,

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Speaker 1: needs to be all hands on deck. But everybody's hurt

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Speaker 1: high ankle sprain. It's really nothing. No, high ankle sprain

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Speaker 1: Week eight, in terms of volume linebacking, Layton Vanderesh wasn't

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Speaker 1: I think we need to be more agile than anything

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Speaker 1: But whether he was on the field or not, I

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Speaker 1: Hey he could run in one direction. I'll put him

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Speaker 1: that way. I think he's fast, Yeah, he could, he

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Speaker 1: What were you gonna say, Rob? Oh No? I mean

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Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see how they how they divvy

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Speaker 1: because I think Sean Shaun Lee had twenty seven snaps

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Speaker 1: Um Joe Thomas had seventeen. And look, they're they're only

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Speaker 1: would Shawn Lee make a good coach after his playing

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Speaker 1: career yesterday than you know, what's he what's he looking

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm all on board for that. Rob Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I I? So I put myself as the Bumblebee whoa

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Speaker 1: on Winnebago. I put myself there's almost spell out of

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Speaker 1: his chair on that show. And the reason why I

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Speaker 1: put myself as the Bumblebee characters because he's like the

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Speaker 1: new guy. But I actually caught some flak for that.

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Speaker 1: They're like, oh, you think you're Bumblebee. I was like, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm just the new guy of the show. Of the lineup.

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Speaker 1: All those other guys are like old friends and stuff.

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Speaker 1: And so that's why I put myself. I don't know, though,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. We've heard you drop that line up.

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Speaker 1: I'm the host of this show. That's okay, that's not

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Speaker 1: drawn out of a portion. Hey, hey Rob. He also

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Speaker 1: did today he did drop the video that I made.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that I edited the video and put the names on. Wow,

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Speaker 1: and and you know stuff. See, I'm gonna move right passes,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna push on because nobody wants to hear us

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Speaker 1: talk about this. Let's go into another edition of Fans

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Speaker 1: on the fifty Fans on the fifty Chris Beam as

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Speaker 1: always doing fantastic work in the back. So our first

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Speaker 1: question comes from Tony Baker, and Tony says, with the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys consider packaging Zeke or dak and a draft pick

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Speaker 1: to pick up mister Trevor Lawrence from the Jacksonville Jaguars,

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Speaker 1: who currently hold that number one overall pick, and he

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Speaker 1: said it would help with their salary cap issue. What

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Speaker 1: do you guys say about Tony's question here? I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is a this is a fire one. We can

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Speaker 1: maybe spend some time on this one. Woking let up.

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Speaker 1: I feel like you would have something great to say here,

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Speaker 1: like you see you are seeing boy? Are you bad? Um?

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Speaker 1: Tony Baker? You got you got a point? You got

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Speaker 1: a point. And the salary cap is going to be

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Speaker 1: a problem. But one of the things about the salary

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Speaker 1: grap the salary cap problems in the Dallas Cowboys, we

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Speaker 1: know how to maneuver around that. And you know, look,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of schools of thought on Trevor Lawrence

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Speaker 1: and he is the attractive pick. There are people that

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Speaker 1: will be tanking for Tarzan. We will not be one

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Speaker 1: of those teams. We will not be doing that. And

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Speaker 1: Even the notion of putting Zeke and Dak in some

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Speaker 1: type of trade is like, man, we'd be giving up

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Speaker 1: a dime for a penny. You don't want to do that.

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Speaker 1: As a team that is building towards the championship that

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Speaker 1: you want, you have a lot of the pieces. I

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Speaker 1: don't believe that anyone believes that their quarterback is the

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Speaker 1: past that you need. Dak has proven time and time

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Speaker 1: again that he is a winner. He can get it done.

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Speaker 1: So let's not even start that. Let's get us a

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Speaker 1: big boy defend tackle and let's show let's get this

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Speaker 1: defense together. Man, but don't start talking taking for Tarzan.

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Speaker 1: That's not gonna have no tanking for Tarzan from heck, Rob,

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Speaker 1: who do you got on this one? I want Isaiah

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Speaker 1: to go last. No, because trading, trading players with big contracts,

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Speaker 1: It's not like you trade them and the contract just

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Speaker 1: goes away. There's that pro rated um signing boats money,

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Speaker 1: signing bonus money that accelerates into your cap. So uh,

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Speaker 1: it's not that easy. Even if you wanted to do that.

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Speaker 1: It's fun to talk about, but no, I don't. I

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Speaker 1: don't see that. And I also see whoever's got the

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Speaker 1: number one pick. They're taking Trevor Lawrence and they're they're

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Speaker 1: unplugging their phone because I think he's as can't miss

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Speaker 1: of a prospect as there is in the last several

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Speaker 1: years at quarterback. And I think whoever whoever gets him

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Speaker 1: is gonna take him new question, whether it's Jacksonville or

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Speaker 1: the Jets. Uh, you know, Kyle, there's there's a there's

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Speaker 1: a comedian on Instagram by the name of Tony Baker.

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Speaker 1: He's one of my favorites. And I'm not sure sure

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Speaker 1: if this is that's the same Tony Baker, because this

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Speaker 1: is almost hilarious. It's hilarious, and UM, you know, I

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Speaker 1: I Tony. We appreciate your question. Um, but I this

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Speaker 1: is not a move that you make. Man. You hold

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Speaker 1: on to your guys. You figure out a way to

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Speaker 1: maneuver around them. In terms of the salary cap. You

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Speaker 1: do what you do. You pay the GMS. Well, the

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Speaker 1: GM pays himself, uh to do to do that that

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Speaker 1: very thing. And um, you know you have you have

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Speaker 1: Will McClay and an amazing, amazing uh scouting department. You

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Speaker 1: let those guys go do what they do and fit

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Speaker 1: guys into the system. So I kind of want to

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Speaker 1: play a little bit of Devil's advocate here, and I

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Speaker 1: don't actually think Tony, thank you for your question. I

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Speaker 1: think it's a great question. A lot of people might

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Speaker 1: scoff at this question, but it's something you could consenter,

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Speaker 1: especially with the salary cap looking like what it's gonna

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Speaker 1: look like by going down this next year, the bigger

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Speaker 1: piece of the pie going to Dak Prescott coming up

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Speaker 1: in the next contract. I mean, there are a lot

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Speaker 1: of factors going into this, and with Trevor Lawrence up

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Speaker 1: at the top of the draft, I tend to agree

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Speaker 1: with Rob a little bit more of nobody's going to

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Speaker 1: really give him up at all. I don't see it

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Speaker 1: would have to take a ransom of everyone's ransom to

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Speaker 1: try and go up and get this guy, especially for

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Speaker 1: a team that needs a quarterback, and that's gonna be

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Speaker 1: who ends up picking him. Jacksonville or New York, doesn't matter,

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Speaker 1: they both need a quarterback. And then the third team

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Speaker 1: that's in that list, Cincinnati, they don't need a quarterback,

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Speaker 1: but they just won yesterday, so they're out of the

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Speaker 1: running for that first pick. So there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: things that go into this decision. But with the cap issue,

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Speaker 1: taking a quarterbacks not necessarily out of the question here.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you trade pieces to get there,

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Speaker 1: but going and taking one of these quarterbacks not just

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Speaker 1: a Trevor Lawrence, but you've got a Zach Wilson, You've

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Speaker 1: got a Trey Lance a justin fields that are up

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Speaker 1: there at the top of the draft. Heckma, would you

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Speaker 1: think about doing that instead of maybe trading pieces away

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Speaker 1: because you talked about you don't want to trade your future,

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Speaker 1: which is Zeke and Dak, but you also don't want

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Speaker 1: to hinder your salary cap issue, and that's what Dak

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Speaker 1: and Zeke are doing at the moment. Yeah, And the

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Speaker 1: thing the great thing about our organization is our general

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Speaker 1: manager is one of the best deal makers to ever

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Speaker 1: be born. So he's if he wanted to get that done,

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Speaker 1: he could get it done. But I believe that everyone

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Speaker 1: in this organization believes in Dak Prescott, and as it

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Speaker 1: relates to getting some of those other names, I think

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Speaker 1: we may be in pole position to take someone in

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Speaker 1: the later rounds. I mean, I think though, if we're

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Speaker 1: just gonna throw out the guy like the Florida quarterback,

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Speaker 1: he's Kyle trash. He's a good he's a trash, is

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Speaker 1: a great he would be a great pickup, but in

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Speaker 1: later rounds if he's there, maybe as a developmental guy,

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Speaker 1: and they've talked about getting guys that you can develop

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Speaker 1: to maybe use as trade bait for LA. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: but I don't think we're in a position to even

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Speaker 1: be talking about replacing Dak at this point. I think

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Speaker 1: we have to go into next season. We're trying to

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Speaker 1: get our defense together and also getting some key pieces

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Speaker 1: on our old line because we see what having these

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Speaker 1: multiple injuries is gonna mean. Is Lyell Collins is going

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Speaker 1: to be is he gonna be able to come back

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Speaker 1: from the labroom? How much life does Smith have in

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Speaker 1: him at the left tackle. There's so many questions that

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Speaker 1: have to be answered. What we already have is the

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Speaker 1: centerpiece of our organization and Dak Prescott, so no justin Fields.

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Speaker 1: All of those guys. I wish them well and I

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Speaker 1: think that I hope that they are great pros, but

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Speaker 1: they won't be Dallas Cowboys. Rob. Yeah, I'll give you

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Speaker 1: to bring it back to the Transformers. I'll give you

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Speaker 1: the beatle answer, the very boring answer. I think Dak

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Speaker 1: Prescott is the guy. He's the guy here, He's not.

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Speaker 1: I just don't I said this on the fanom minute ago,

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Speaker 1: like call me naive. They've got a lot of work

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Speaker 1: to do, roll up their sleeves and get this deal

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Speaker 1: done in the off season. But I think it gets done.

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Speaker 1: I still believe it gets done. I think you know,

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Speaker 1: I just mentioned in the same breath Trevor Lawrence is

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Speaker 1: probably you can't miss prospect. However, when you find a

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Speaker 1: franchise quarterback, and they found a franchise quarterback in Dak Prescott,

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Speaker 1: I don't think you let him go. And I think

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Speaker 1: by all council will be healthy next off season. They've

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Speaker 1: got to figure out the money and the length of

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Speaker 1: the deal. But I think we found out what he

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Speaker 1: means to this team beyond the field, in the locker room,

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Speaker 1: all that stuff. So I don't think you want to

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Speaker 1: let that go. Isaiah, what robs it? That's a beatle answer.

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Speaker 1: That's a that's a beatle answer if I've ever heard one,

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Speaker 1: but double beatle, double beatle answer. So, and I'm looking

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Speaker 1: at the comments on this periscope stream because I was

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Speaker 1: looking for some other questions in terms of fans on

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Speaker 1: the fifty. But I don't even know how to say.

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Speaker 1: Is this Opie eighteen brings up a good point and

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Speaker 1: he says, if the old Lion can get a little

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Speaker 1: bit healthier, you'll see Dak and Zeke flourish next year.

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Speaker 1: And we had this conversation about Zeke yesterday of he'll

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Speaker 1: be back, and we think he'll be back in terms

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Speaker 1: of twenty twenty one and what you'll see from him

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Speaker 1: as opposed to what you've seen in twenty twenty and

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Speaker 1: now that he's kind of hindered with a calf issue

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Speaker 1: that might linger end of the final two weeks of

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Speaker 1: the season. But you think that's the case. Do you

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Speaker 1: think that both Dak and Zeke Isaiah are going to

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Speaker 1: have a better twenty twenty one season than you even

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Speaker 1: saw this year? Because remember even when Dak was healthy,

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Speaker 1: he was still playing without Lyle Collins and without Tyrn

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Speaker 1: Smith on that offensive line at the same time. Yes,

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Speaker 1: they'll be better, yes, Zeke, I mean this officer line

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Speaker 1: would be healthier. So that means when this officer line

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Speaker 1: is healthier, I guess what your quarterback plays better when

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Speaker 1: this office the line is healthy. Guess what your running

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Speaker 1: back plays better, so I'm gonna answer your question. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I said, are you okay? You good, dude, I'm good.

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Speaker 1: Are you sure? I'm sure? Okay? All right? Well Rob,

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Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta do al commercial. You gotta do it. Okay, Well, okay,

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Speaker 1: I'll go to a break. I'll go to a break.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for sending in your questions on fans on

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Speaker 1: the fifty. Isaiah has forced us to take an early

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Speaker 1: break so we can give them a shot in the arm.

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Speaker 1: one of those episodes Ladies and Gentlemen that I wish.

646
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Speaker 1: I wish we had behind the scenes footage four. I

647
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: really do. I think it would be hilarious because we

648
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Speaker 1: just figured out that Rob pe Island. It's not just

649
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Speaker 1: Rob pe Island, it's Rob Dangerous pe Island because danger

650
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Speaker 1: is his middle name. So there's a lot to now.

651
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Speaker 1: Isaiah's disappeared on us in the bottom left hand corner

652
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: because he's just on another level today. But guess what.

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Speaker 1: You can see that whether you're watching from home or

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Speaker 1: or oh man, I just I am that just happened?

660
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Speaker 1: This is this is I'm sorry everybody, I really am.

661
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: This is a fun show. Heckma Harrison, Rob Phillips, Isaiah

662
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 1: Stanback I'm Kyle Yama is just trying to keep this

663
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: thing on the rails the final couple minutes and yeah,

664
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 1: it's already too late for that. Um. We did. We did,

665
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: even from Jerry Jones this morning, Rob, And this was

666
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 1: a couple minutes before you you had your head on

667
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: the radio this morning. But Jerry went on there and

668
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: kind of talked about this season and a lot of

669
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: generalities of twenty twenty in the Dallas Cowboys, some of

670
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: the challenges that they've had to deal with as a

671
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: front office. And I think one of the things that

672
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: stuck out from his interview was not only his answer

673
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: about Dak Prescott and negotiations, which Rob, I don't know

674
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,919
Speaker 1: if you could decipher that for us in a minute,

675
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: but I definitely couldn't. At the same time, but there

676
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 1: was also no Pro Bowlers named yesterday by the Dallas

677
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: Cowboys for the first time since nineteen eighty nine, and

678
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: Rob his answer was kind of intriguing on that one

679
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 1: because the way he spun it one was salesman asked

680
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: if I've ever heard it of somebody who hasn't had

681
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: a Pro Bowler in close to three day or over

682
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 1: three decades now, but yeah, nineteen eighty nine was the

683
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: last time they had a Pro bowler, and he said, well,

684
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,760
Speaker 1: there were Pro bowlers on that roster, they just weren't

685
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: Pro Bowlers. Yet they went on to win three Super

686
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: Bowl titles. But what did you take out of that

687
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 1: from Jerry Jones today, Rob and what else he had

688
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: to share? Answer? Yeah, I mean I see his point,

689
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: not necessarily that they've got a bunch of first and

690
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,399
Speaker 1: second year guys that are going to make a bunch

691
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: of Pro Bowls. I think Ceedee Lamb is in that category.

692
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 1: I just think it comes down to availability for a

693
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: lot of the guys, especially on offense. I mean, I

694
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: think if they're marginally healthy this year or Dacks probably

695
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: in it, probably at least one receivers in it, Zack

696
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: Martin's in it, Tyrn Smith is in it. So you're

697
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Speaker 1: you probably have a few on offense. Defensively, I mean,

698
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Speaker 1: based on the way they've struggled this year, I don't

699
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: think you could you could pick out a defensive player

700
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: this year. Maybe, but I think injuries prevented them from

701
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 1: at least getting I don't know, four or five guys

702
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: in the Pro Bowl this year on offense, was there anybody,

703
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,320
Speaker 1: Isaiah that you would look at and say there was

704
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: a snub in terms of the Pro Bowl? But the

705
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: only one that even remotely comes to mind for me

706
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: is DeMarcus Lawrence. But even then, I don't know if

707
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: the numbers stack up against the other edge rushers that

708
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 1: ended up making that roster. No, I don't think anybody

709
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: was close. I don't think anybody was closed. I think

710
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: the only reason why Martin didn't get is because his injury.

711
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 1: You know, he didn't have as much chick on the field.

712
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: But aside from net, nobody was even close to being

713
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 1: in the same conversation as a Pro Bowl. Yeah, that's

714
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: a good point. I mean, Tank does so many little

715
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: things that help you. Yeah, but it just in terms

716
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: of the sack numbers people that are voting or go

717
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: look at it and say yeah no, so yeah, No,

718
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Speaker 1: I mean in a down year like we've had, I

719
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't have expected it. Um and even offensively, if you

720
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 1: look at any of our guys as far as you know,

721
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,919
Speaker 1: rookies who Sydney Lamb got off to a pretty good start,

722
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: but then obviously with the quarterback changes, offense just completely

723
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: went off the rail. So defensively. If I would have

724
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 1: been shocked if anyone on our defense had made the

725
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl, that would have just been some home cooking.

726
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: It would have been some payola going on. And I

727
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: think they outlawed that a long time ago. But I just, uh,

728
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 1: I didn't see it happened. I didn't think that it

729
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: would happen and wasn't shocked about it. I think, you know, uh,

730
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 1: mister Jones's answer is correct. You know, you have to

731
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Speaker 1: look at your team that way. Yeah, I've got some

732
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 1: guys snubbed eighty nine, but on that team was one

733
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: Michael Lervin as well. So I mean, I think we'll

734
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Speaker 1: take the Super Bowls in the future for this team

735
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 1: any day if we can get there. So I'm just

736
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: you know, look at Pro Bowls are one thing, and

737
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 1: one thing about Pro Bowls. I think people have started

738
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: over the years to discredit guys that make the Pro

739
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: Bowl anyway. So I mean, maybe, look, it's a big

740
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 1: deal going to Hawaii, dueling all those things, but when

741
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 1: you know, Jalen made the Pro Bowl last year, and

742
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Speaker 1: I think, you know, Kyle, you'll have some words about it.

743
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: I do have words about it, but but you know

744
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 1: what you know what. That's go ahead, Kyle, No, no, no, no, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I want to hear what you have to say. First, Well, like,

746
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: wouldn't have completely completely shocked you if Jalen made it

747
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: this year, because yeah, because I don't know if I

748
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: don't know if it would Yeah, he's second and tackles

749
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: and we're talking about people that are just if you

750
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: just look at the stats. Plus he got a pick

751
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving in front of a national televisor that's the

752
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 1: kind of plays that you make that that get people's attention,

753
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: Like that wouldn't have like completely completely shot Plus he

754
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: made it last year. Like head, it's not a bad

755
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: point also to kind of go along with the numbers

756
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 1: that you were talking about in the tackle numbers. Tony

757
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 1: Cassius tweeted on game day and I shared this with

758
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: Isaiah whenever I saw it in the in the studio

759
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: while we were watching Tony Cassius of Cormer of course

760
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion with the Cowboys. He tweeted he said,

761
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith is the best tackler ten yards down the

762
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: field in NFL history and best ten yard tackler in

763
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: NFL history. And it's like, oh, that's kind of true.

764
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: I mean he kind of waits for everybody to get

765
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: to the line of the game and then finally takes

766
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: him down. But you're you're not wrong. I mean that's

767
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: what the Pro Bowl turns into at some point. And

768
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 1: last year it was a fan vote that got him

769
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: in as an injury replacement. And that's why Heckman and

770
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: I have had this conversation on numerous occasions, whether it's

771
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: before a high school football game or just like sitting

772
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: down having coffee or sushi or whatever we're doing, it's

773
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: it's always about Jalen Smith. Somehow it always comes back

774
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: to this, and he knows that that just my gears

775
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 1: that he made the Pro Bowl in twenty nineteen. But

776
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: I don't see anybody on the did you're gonna invite

777
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: any of that? Oh my gosh, here we go. I'm

778
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 1: still waiting on mine. I didn't get to invite any

779
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: of that. So don't mean it don't mean to like

780
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 1: distract what you're talking about their Isaiah, but what we

781
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 1: should do. What we should do is lit Pro Football Focus,

782
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,800
Speaker 1: pick the Pro Bowl. A lot of guys in the

783
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: Pro Bowls. You didn't think with me, I don't. I don't.

784
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: I don't think agree with that either. I don't either.

785
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: But I think the Walkers Lawrence is ranked up as

786
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: one of the top the years, and also Jaylen Smith

787
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 1: as a linebacker. So I don't know what they are

788
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: how they put these equations together out there in Cincinnati

789
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: and Pro Football Focus, but I think they are not

790
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 1: watching the games. Jalen is an entrepreneur in an investors

791
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 1: oh gosh. But I think maybe the only ones that

792
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 1: you could have potentially put names in the hat for

793
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: was Dela on the defensive side of the football and

794
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: maybe a Marii Cooper on the offensive side because of

795
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: what Amari has been able to do as without without

796
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: his quarterback. I mean without a quarterback really. I mean

797
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,800
Speaker 1: you could talk about the numbers that he accumulated earlier

798
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: in the season, but he's had a good year and

799
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: he's most likely going to hit a thousand yards in

800
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: the next two weeks without a singular quarterback throughout his

801
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: entire season. So I think Cooper had a good run

802
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: at it. I think to Marcus Lawrence has played well

803
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: for those who watch it on tape, But if you're

804
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: looking at the numbers, which is what Pro Bowler, Pro

805
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: Bowl voters do, it's ultimately not going to work out

806
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. For the Cowboys this year. But I'm

807
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: I'm actually a little surprised Act didn't make it. I know,

808
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: he only played ten games this year so far, but

809
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 1: I mean he's just got the name now, you know,

810
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:49,919
Speaker 1: six straight Pro Bowls. I thought maybe that was still

811
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 1: enough of time on the field to get in. But hey,

812
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 1: it's got in some time, right, Yeah, it's unfortunately in

813
00:42:58,480 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. He'll be He'll be back in there

814
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: next year. Yeah, they won't take very long. And so

815
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 1: I guess this would also mark him as maybe the

816
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: first time in his career that he's not an All Pro.

817
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 1: I mean that'll come later on and maybe he does

818
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: make it back into that All Pro list, but at

819
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: least this looks like it's going to be a shot

820
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: in the round direction for him. Certainly here in twenty twenty.

821
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: It's been a roughier for him. It's been a rough

822
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,479
Speaker 1: yer for a lot of the Cowboys. And we're gonna

823
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 1: talk tomorrow about some more things that Jerry said today

824
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 1: about maybe when the season took a turn and when

825
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 1: you kind of saw the expectation shift because he had

826
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: topics of conversation about that today and we'll hit it tomorrow.

827
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Speaker 1: We'll also preview the Cowboys and the Eagles. It'll be

828
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: the Cowboys offense versus his Eagles defense. Can the Cowboys

829
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: have more success this time than they did back in

830
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: Week eight against Philadelphia? I certainly think so. I think

831
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: all four of us would agree that they will have

832
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: more success because there wasn't. It was kind of a

833
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 1: low bar set in Week eight against Philadelphia. But that'll

834
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: be our preview tomorrow. But that's gonna do it for

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Speaker 1: us here on I'm Talking Cowboys on this Tuesday. I

836
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Speaker 1: want to thank you for joining us here over the

837
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Speaker 1: last forty five minutes for Chris Beam back in the back,

838
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,720
Speaker 1: for isaiahs Dan Back, Rob Phillips, and heck My Harrison.

839
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Speaker 1: I'm Kyle Yeoman saying so long. We'll see you tomorrow

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Speaker 1: morning on Talking Cowboys. This has been a production of

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