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Speaker 1: most stagers. Want to shut the camera. I agree. Now listen,
Speaker 1: City so Dry, the captain of this the only one
Speaker 1: who can keep these guys in, Charlomagne the God. This
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Speaker 1: hundred five eight five one oh five one. We want
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Speaker 1: around the world. Everything. What's up? Charlotte Magne, Angelie King,
Speaker 1: I'm I just want to let everybody know I'm a
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Speaker 1: my Dean's brother. All right, man, y'all be easy man,
Speaker 1: me too, brother. All right? Hello, who's this? Man? Good
Speaker 1: morning for all the man of God, peace King. What's
Speaker 1: happening up? But get it off your chests? Man, Man,
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm a good spirit, you know. Me and
Speaker 1: my wife was getting into nar thing back toward cop.
Speaker 1: I'm feeling understand. Hey, you want to get that thing
Speaker 1: to him? Hey, man, look you know I have a
Speaker 1: good one. Brother. Hello, who's this It's Erico. Hey, good morning,
Speaker 1: Get off chess Mamma. Yeah, I listened to y'all every morning,
Speaker 1: and I'll be damn I'll be tripping out on your
Speaker 1: shawl of name. I mean, I'll be laughing like crazy
Speaker 1: every morning at y'all. Well, thank you. I don't know
Speaker 1: that's a good thing about I don't know much, man,
Speaker 1: at least you through y'all every single morning, like every morning.
Speaker 1: Everyone very much. You appreciate your support, but thank you
Speaker 1: so much. We have a great and blessed day. Mom.
Speaker 1: Who are you from? Okay? You too, That's all I
Speaker 1: want to say, sweet you. I love y'all. We love
Speaker 1: you back. I love your twin two. That's seven twin Hello.
Speaker 1: Who's this Hello? Hey? What's your name? Hey? Kay? Look,
Speaker 1: good morning. To get it off your chest. Mama. Well,
Speaker 1: I really didn't have much to say. I just want
Speaker 1: to just congratulate y'all. Y'all doing good and I thought
Speaker 1: it was so sweet. How y'all games away money because
Speaker 1: there's really some broke. Stop calling people the N word
Speaker 1: because I'm fortunate people when it comes there and pockets
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Speaker 1: a financial struggle out here for something. Folks. You got it.
Speaker 1: You want you want to let you want to get
Speaker 1: some money to spey. No, I just learned somebody ten
Speaker 1: dollars yesterday. No, I'm with you. Budget. That's right, budget
Speaker 1: that money, Thank you, mama. It's just something about that,
Speaker 1: something about them two words together. Just do something to
Speaker 1: bro nick broke, God damn lord happened? That's it felt
Speaker 1: like back in the day when you heard scrubs for
Speaker 1: the first time that I gotta get my mama. Huh, Hello,
Speaker 1: who's this yo? What's up? This is fort Corey? What
Speaker 1: I'm getting off your chests? Yeah? I wanted to call
Speaker 1: to thank uh, well, good morning to you, Envy and Charlomagne.
Speaker 1: Good morning, good morning. I wanted to thank you for
Speaker 1: keeping you guys in check and uh being very beautiful
Speaker 1: every morning. Nix, my morning is better. Uh. I wanted
Speaker 1: to thank uh Envy and Charlomagne for all the work
Speaker 1: that you're too, especially in the mental health area. Uh.
Speaker 1: I haven't read books in high school, and since you've
Speaker 1: been doing the audible stuff, actually downloaded the book and
Speaker 1: I've been reading like the last two months now. It's
Speaker 1: really got me excited. I love Audible Audible. I mean
Speaker 1: I loved Audible before I was in business with them,
Speaker 1: but they're they're great. Yeah. I do. Downloaded up Malcolm
Speaker 1: Mex's autobiography. I just finished, uh, Think like a Monkey,
Speaker 1: and now I'm looking for some more books. Uh. I
Speaker 1: wanted to ask if you could probably send me a
Speaker 1: book of yours if you don't mind it. I got you.
Speaker 1: Y'all got to actually stay on hold though people be
Speaker 1: calling up here saying that, and then they don't stay
Speaker 1: on hold, so we can't get your address to send
Speaker 1: it to him. But I'll send you that. I'll send
Speaker 1: you a copy of my book and a copy of
Speaker 1: doctor to Walker's book The Unapologetic God in the Black
Speaker 1: Mental Health. I really appreciate that. And lastly, I just
Speaker 1: wanted to say, man, y'all got to stop the fruity
Speaker 1: stuff up there. Many stuff y'all be doing too much.
Speaker 1: You and envy. Man, y'all got to cut it out, y'all. Well,
Speaker 1: I we haven't. I don't know if you know. We
Speaker 1: haven't flirted with each other all week. Well let's keep
Speaker 1: it that way. I appreciate that. Get it off your
Speaker 1: chests eight hundred five eight five one or five one?
Speaker 1: You got excited, But if you need to visit this
Speaker 1: up now? Was the Breakfast Club? Good morning, wake up,
Speaker 1: wake up, wake ya ask if you're trying to get
Speaker 1: it off your chest you man or blessed, we want
Speaker 1: to hear from you on the Breakfast Black. Hello? Who's this? Hey?
Speaker 1: Good morning me? Lestia? How dj n V? Hey? What us? Hey?
Speaker 1: How are you? I'm fine? Thank you. Last time I
Speaker 1: called Charlomagne, you wasn't there. But I'm glad to hear
Speaker 1: your voice. I had a question for you, Charlomagne. Um, yes, man,
Speaker 1: why are you always why are you always yawning in
Speaker 1: the microphone like that, like, why do you do that?
Speaker 1: Why do you do that? Y'all? Ye don't tell me
Speaker 1: because I'm tired, because I wake up early in the morning.
Speaker 1: Don't tell me that. Uh duh, it's sick something in
Speaker 1: the morning. No, you're not. You're not still yawning white.
Speaker 1: You're not still yawning wiping coal out your eyes six
Speaker 1: something in the morning. So you want him mute, don't know,
Speaker 1: abody want to hear all that? That's just to me.
Speaker 1: That's like somebody yawning right next to me in my ear.
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, sorry, what are you doing right now?
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, yes, as if you're don't really know, Well,
Speaker 1: you're gonna hate to know that. I passed gas too.
Speaker 1: Sometimes not in my clothes though, oh not. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you've got to the bathroom. You put your hands down
Speaker 1: right anyway? Thank you? Oh one more thing, One more thing.
Speaker 1: Elijah McClean, Sandra Bland, Brianna Saylor. That's right there, you
Speaker 1: go out like that. Hello, who's that? Just about the
Speaker 1: yard before she said that, By the way, Hello, who's this? Hello? Hey?
Speaker 1: What's your name? Bro? Hello? Money making? Mitch? How you
Speaker 1: are doing? Money making? Mitch, you ain't making no money
Speaker 1: right now. You ain't making no money in a recession.
Speaker 1: You crazy cut it out, Charlomagne, guard, how you making money?
Speaker 1: Tell me how you making money by giving proper advice
Speaker 1: on how people should post should be really cleaning that house.
Speaker 1: That's enough money for me to educate these people you're finessing.
Speaker 1: Of course, Um, if you really really really want to
Speaker 1: um chill as coronavirus or to all hospitals and everybody's home,
Speaker 1: just start from sterilization room. Start from the bathroom that
Speaker 1: work your way out. Everything you use in the bathroom
Speaker 1: you can use around the whole apartment. Every hospital that's scared,
Speaker 1: they have training which sterility is important. So if you
Speaker 1: just experience your sterilization department and make the whole hospital sterile,
Speaker 1: then everything, every item, every equipment, every instrument can actually
Speaker 1: be used properly. All these money making mine. Let me
Speaker 1: ask you a question. People actually paying for this advice
Speaker 1: of cleaning the bathroom? Clean your bathroom? Actually I agree.
Speaker 1: I agree that you have to do sterilization, but you
Speaker 1: do know that it's transmitted from person to person right exactly,
Speaker 1: But it depends on how many people are in your house,
Speaker 1: and do you have a team that's doing sterilization. This
Speaker 1: is the family. This isn't people from next door to
Speaker 1: my house. How are you making many of this money?
Speaker 1: Are you're talking about financial money. I don't need financial money.
Speaker 1: I don't need no answers. I'm fine financial but yeah,
Speaker 1: my money there, but financially I'm fine. But the other
Speaker 1: money is the other important money. That's is information. Knowledge
Speaker 1: is post knowledge is currency. You mean you know so
Speaker 1: that so that right there alone, I'm saving lives by
Speaker 1: telling people I saw in the military. Seventeen years as
Speaker 1: a medical officer, I've done I've done the all forms
Speaker 1: of surgery. I've been in so many different situations. And
Speaker 1: we treat every patient. Now this is the coronavirus. We
Speaker 1: treat every patient as if they were HIZ. Now we
Speaker 1: have to treat every patient as if they have HIV,
Speaker 1: corona and all these other symptoms. That's that's that's that's
Speaker 1: pretty dope because now you have to stay on top
Speaker 1: of sterility to the rest of your life. You understand,
Speaker 1: this is that should awaking all But thank you brother
Speaker 1: for calling man. We really don't understand. But you know,
Speaker 1: you're talking about that type of money. You're talking about
Speaker 1: financial money. What other money is there? He made? He
Speaker 1: made currency. That's all right, Mike. Man. What I'm getting
Speaker 1: about I would stuff? Uh, you don't really mad? Years?
Speaker 1: So many you're waiting five years to tell us that. No,
Speaker 1: I'll waited five years, y'all. Man, I've been calling for
Speaker 1: five years? Great many, So what are you gonna say? Right? Man?
Speaker 1: To shout out? The boys of our bust porporating man,
Speaker 1: we on our weird work very better. If you ain't matter,
Speaker 1: I'm happy to be alive. There you go, kay, we're
Speaker 1: happy to be here. I appreciate it. Man, get it
Speaker 1: off your chest. Eight hundred five eight five one oh
Speaker 1: five one. If you need to vent, hit us up now.
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Speaker 1: Everybody's dj n G and ngel yee, Charlomagne the guy.
Speaker 1: We are the Breakfast Club. Now if you just joined us,
Speaker 1: we're talking about her recruise and a tweete put out.
Speaker 1: He said there is only one woman on earth. I
Speaker 1: have to please. Her name is Rebecca, not my mother,
Speaker 1: my sister. My daughters are co workers. I would let
Speaker 1: their husband's boyfriend's partners take care of them. Rebecca gives
Speaker 1: me wings, all right. So we're asking who comes first
Speaker 1: in your relationship, your wife, your mother, your kids, and
Speaker 1: for women, your husband, your mother, or your father. I
Speaker 1: should say, your husband, your father, or your kids. What
Speaker 1: what's the uh? I should say? In what order? Does
Speaker 1: it go? Start with you? I mean there's no order,
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying. You have to say
Speaker 1: for arguments I have to say. I'm telling you asking
Speaker 1: me a question, and I'm telling you there is no order.
Speaker 1: They are on the same, you know level. I please speaking.
Speaker 1: I don't don't need to do hypotheticals in real life situations.
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you how I feel. I think at
Speaker 1: this point in my life, you know, those are all
Speaker 1: my hearts, and it's not about who comes first in
Speaker 1: that situation. You know, I will say my wife and
Speaker 1: kids are the immediates because that's your everyday unit, that's
Speaker 1: who you see all the time. So of course they get,
Speaker 1: you know, first, first DIBs on everything. But it's not
Speaker 1: a who comes first scenario, Like you know, love is
Speaker 1: something that you you You have an overabundance self, especially
Speaker 1: when it's unconditional and those three enter teach your names,
Speaker 1: your mom, your wife, and your kids. At least in
Speaker 1: my life, that's just unconditional love. I got enough to
Speaker 1: go around, right, Who's first? Three women hanging off a cliff?
Speaker 1: Your mom, your wife, and your daughter. You can only
Speaker 1: grab one? Which one you're grabbing? I got two arms,
Speaker 1: Come on, come on, two arms, and we can figure
Speaker 1: it out. Somebody I got two arms, so I can
Speaker 1: grab two. Somebody else can grab somebody? We can we
Speaker 1: can we can do a little centipede and get each
Speaker 1: other up, you know what, figure it out and get
Speaker 1: what if they fall? I'm jumping with them? Well, how
Speaker 1: doing to live for after that? Your wife and kids?
Speaker 1: And mom? Look what I'm gona hanging around for? What? Y'all? Well?
Speaker 1: I would think that in my opinion, And you know,
Speaker 1: I don't have kids in r do I have a wife,
Speaker 1: But I would always think kids come first. But that
Speaker 1: just would be my thought. But the problem I have
Speaker 1: is him saying there's only one woman on earth I
Speaker 1: have to please. That's not true, and it's not about
Speaker 1: putting things in order. But as a five there, as
Speaker 1: a husband, as a son, you should feel some type
Speaker 1: of responsibility to all of these women in your life.
Speaker 1: And there were so many people that came to your
Speaker 1: defense when you were having issues, when you said that
Speaker 1: you were being sexually assaulted that actually stood up for you,
Speaker 1: including Gabrielle Union. And for you to then turn your
Speaker 1: back and act like you have no type of what's
Speaker 1: going to happen when something happens to you and people say, well,
Speaker 1: I don't care about Terry Crews because all I care
Speaker 1: about is my own husband. Let his wife take care
Speaker 1: of that. That's not true. You need people, and people
Speaker 1: need your support, and black women need to support more
Speaker 1: than anybody. Well, I see, I feel as your kids first,
Speaker 1: and I look at the same cliff scenario and the
Speaker 1: reason I look at yeah, damn. Now, I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you the truth because if I'm hanging from a cliff,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let my wife pick take me first.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell her to take the kids first. And
Speaker 1: my wife is gonna do the same thing. She's gonna
Speaker 1: say take the kids first. Make sure the kids to
Speaker 1: say first, and then come back for me and your
Speaker 1: mom's that's really what it is. I got to make
Speaker 1: sure my kids us say first, me and my wife.
Speaker 1: But how you put yourself in the scenario? You said
Speaker 1: the wife and the kids. Mom? Now you all of
Speaker 1: a sudden hanging off the cliff with your pants sagging
Speaker 1: where you come from? You know what? You It wasn't
Speaker 1: about you, your wife here you talk about this morning.
Speaker 1: It was about the wife and the kid and I
Speaker 1: if the situation happened, my wife would tell me to
Speaker 1: take the kids first. Yeah, but when you get married,
Speaker 1: aren't you a unit? So technically you and your wife
Speaker 1: are one. So I don't see how she could even
Speaker 1: be put into the equation. Right, I would just jump
Speaker 1: off they I'm going if they go, you know right now,
Speaker 1: if they jumping, I'm jumping. I'm gonna stay on this
Speaker 1: planet with y'all and be going to therapy every day
Speaker 1: instead of just once a week. And I mean, ain't
Speaker 1: got time for that, going yeah, we all yeah, we
Speaker 1: all out. Hello, who's this henri hi? I think so
Speaker 1: the wife should come first because when she leaves the nest,
Speaker 1: and it's technically the man's responsibility to make sure that
Speaker 1: her basic needs are met, then it should be daughters
Speaker 1: and mom. Once you're not sleeping with your mom and
Speaker 1: you know you're not seeing your mom every day. So
Speaker 1: I feel like the wife should definitely come first, and
Speaker 1: your kids I do, okay, So you want you want
Speaker 1: to come from? Let the kids be off, the kids done,
Speaker 1: plenty of five to kid homes kids, huh pretty pretty
Speaker 1: pretty much a lot of fire. Oh my god, all right,
Speaker 1: thank you, my god, hard knock life. Who comes first?
Speaker 1: Your wife, your mother, or your kids? Call us up
Speaker 1: right now? This is from Terry Cruise. Is tweet is
Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club, go morning, the breakfast Club e j
Speaker 1: envy angela ye, Charlemagne the guy we are the breakfast club.
Speaker 1: And now if he just joined us, we're talking Terry Cruise.
Speaker 1: He uh put out a tweet. Yes, he said, there's
Speaker 1: only one woman on earth I have to please. Her
Speaker 1: name is Rebecca, not my mother, my sister. My daughters
Speaker 1: are co workers. I will let their husband's boyfriend's partners
Speaker 1: take care of them. Rebecca gives me wings. He said
Speaker 1: that like that, That's how I interpret did it? Okay?
Speaker 1: Who comes from your wife, your mom or your kids?
Speaker 1: I don't respect it, And you know I gave him
Speaker 1: dunkey today for that. And you know I can't even
Speaker 1: knock him for how he feels about his mother or
Speaker 1: sister or co workers, because that's that can all be
Speaker 1: complicated situations. But your daughters, bro, Like, come on, man,
Speaker 1: like you post to love your daughters the exact same
Speaker 1: way that you you love your life, you love your wife.
Speaker 1: You know what somebody told me a long time ago.
Speaker 1: He name was Dary Alexandry alexand and said, when you
Speaker 1: love your significant other the way you love your kids,
Speaker 1: that's when you really have a soul mate. Because you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of us don't really experience love until we
Speaker 1: have children. We don't know what real love actually is.
Speaker 1: So if you if you love your significant other in
Speaker 1: that way, then you really got something, all right? Well
Speaker 1: eight hundred and five eighty five, one on five one,
Speaker 1: that's what we're asking. Hello, who's this? Hey? Hey, what's
Speaker 1: coming on the breakfast club? Did Jay from Vas? Going on?
Speaker 1: Jay from Va? We're asking if you had to pick one,
Speaker 1: who would come first? Your wife, your mother, or your kids. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm definitely gonna ride with my wife, So you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to take your clues. If I'm not mistaken, he said,
Speaker 1: the only one he has to please it's his wife. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that makes sense to me. Um, I mean
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm going off the verboe. I'm not here
Speaker 1: to please my kids. I'm here to raise my kids.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not here to a lot of kids
Speaker 1: be too friendly, or a lot of parents be too
Speaker 1: friendly with their kids. And you know that's that's not
Speaker 1: that's how kids score up. You can't be friendly, and
Speaker 1: I can't be friendly with your kids. Man, No, I'm
Speaker 1: not friends. I'm not not like what's that? What's that movie?
Speaker 1: What's that movie with Terrence Jay? Why did I not?
Speaker 1: Why did I get married? Where he was getting Yama?
Speaker 1: His mama was all in his business and he was
Speaker 1: trying to please his mama when he needed to be
Speaker 1: trying to please his wife. And what happened at the
Speaker 1: end he buked on his moment. You know that's the movie.
Speaker 1: I bet it's based off real stuff. You can't you
Speaker 1: can't be like that. I've seen stuff like that in
Speaker 1: real life. I'm here to please my girl, my wife,
Speaker 1: my mom. I'm not really here to please her because
Speaker 1: my man based on how he treats his mom, and
Speaker 1: that matters to me a lot as far as who
Speaker 1: I decide, I'm, you know, deciding to be with him.
Speaker 1: I love his relationship with his mom and that's important.
Speaker 1: And you shouldna help on how he treats his kids too,
Speaker 1: You should you should judge man based on how he
Speaker 1: treats his children. Let me see, Now, your kids, right,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna help your mom out when she needs you.
Speaker 1: But when you're grown, you know you're here to raise
Speaker 1: her family as your mom raised you to do. Now,
Speaker 1: my brother, have you ever looked up the definition to please?
Speaker 1: Do you know what please mean? Please means to cause
Speaker 1: to feel happy and satisfied, to take only one's own
Speaker 1: wishes into consideration to deciding how to act or proceed.
Speaker 1: So that's when you said, like, this is the first time.
Speaker 1: The ages that I can just please myself. When you're
Speaker 1: talking about pleasing somebody else is to cause them to
Speaker 1: feel happy and satisfied. He arranged the fishing trip to
Speaker 1: please his son, or he arranged the activity to please
Speaker 1: his daughter, So yes, you should please your kids. King, Well,
Speaker 1: you know I'm going with the white SI's first. For example,
Speaker 1: what the love thing like when you say you love somebody,
Speaker 1: or you know you love your mom, you love your kids,
Speaker 1: but you're in love with your wife, or you're sniffing
Speaker 1: at other like. It's a lot of things that come
Speaker 1: with being in love with somebody that you just can't
Speaker 1: put on the same terms of loving somebody, Like you
Speaker 1: love your friends, you love your mom, but you die
Speaker 1: in love. You're not having sexual things with your those
Speaker 1: type of people. You're only doing that with your significant other.
Speaker 1: That's what love. There's some people out there, they don't
Speaker 1: love their wives. By the way, well you know I'm
Speaker 1: going off doing what to do? You know, but I
Speaker 1: just rather please my wife because that's who I stay with.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm build my family with you. When your
Speaker 1: parents die, you know, you still have to please your
Speaker 1: woman that's still there, which is what you're great though
Speaker 1: your mom raised you to do. You know, your kids
Speaker 1: say I'm looking at like in love right now. In
Speaker 1: love has nothing to do with sexual right. In love
Speaker 1: says I'm just looking at it says you can't stop
Speaker 1: staring at them. You feel like you're high, You're always
Speaker 1: thinking about them. You want to be happy, you want
Speaker 1: you've you don't want them to feel pain. You don't
Speaker 1: want them to feel stressed. I'm in love love my daughters,
Speaker 1: with my kids. I don't know what he's talking about.
Speaker 1: I'm in love with my kids. Yeah, I don't get it.
Speaker 1: I'm in love with my daughters. I want to please
Speaker 1: my daughters. But you know, and of course you know
Speaker 1: your wife. That's a different level of love. That's something else,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, I don't know what's
Speaker 1: the story. More of the story is, well, I'm surprised
Speaker 1: the orphanages ain't more packed. I'm probably these foster homes
Speaker 1: ain't more packed because y'all don't give a damn about
Speaker 1: your kids. And guess what, guess what, tax time right
Speaker 1: around the corner. I bet you're gonna be so happy
Speaker 1: to see them little churing in You're gonna want to
Speaker 1: claim all of them on your taxes. All right, We
Speaker 1: got more coming up next with a breakfast club. Keep
Speaker 1: the breakfast club humble. Say to the breakfast club. Hate
Speaker 1: me if you want, to love me if you want,
Speaker 1: but just use your comments sense playing at the breakfast club.
Speaker 1: Who's this dre slaying at the breakfast club? Man? While
Speaker 1: you're shying to man like your buddies, man, because we
Speaker 1: are laugh was crazy after I don't even think why
Speaker 1: you say we act like we bought buddies but butt buddies.
Speaker 1: That's wrong with that? Why just say this further thing
Speaker 1: to be stuffing about? I just told you what it is.
Speaker 1: Who are you? Who are you with? Bronick? Let me
Speaker 1: tell you Nick, Let me talk to you. Let me
Speaker 1: talk to your butt buddy, Nick? Nick? Nick? Why you
Speaker 1: don't love? Why you don't love what's his name? Why
Speaker 1: you don't love Dre? Guy? Bro? That's your buddy and
Speaker 1: that's your bub buddy, and I want you to know that.
Speaker 1: Huh bro. He's just saying, y'all y'all be a little
Speaker 1: off the chain with the comments in the morning. Man. Well,
Speaker 1: I think y'all should be bub buddies, um, because Dre
Speaker 1: rhymes with jay and Nick rhymes with y'all made for
Speaker 1: each other. That'sh bubba. Youn't love your brother? You don't
Speaker 1: love your brother? Give him a hug right now. Tell
Speaker 1: me tell you love him, you value him, and you
Speaker 1: appreciate him. Hug him right now. I loved you. Tell him,
Speaker 1: tell him you love him. Man, y'all whack man that's
Speaker 1: the problem with black man. We can't tell each other
Speaker 1: we love each other, we value each other, we appreciate
Speaker 1: each other. But with me and Nvy do that? Y'all
Speaker 1: call us butt buddies. No, the subspect things you say?
Speaker 1: Love is one thing, because I love my black broke.
Speaker 1: There you go, So this little nives X y'all need
Speaker 1: a double date or something? Hello? Who's asking? This is
Speaker 1: data from d ain't Good morning? Good morning, dat ain't
Speaker 1: from VA? Was up slander the breakfast club day day? Yes,
Speaker 1: dj Envy, I get so tired of here, and you
Speaker 1: say he's gonna get that donkey too? Can't you say
Speaker 1: it another way? How you want me to say? You
Speaker 1: can switch it up today? I mean switch it up
Speaker 1: all right? Let me try this. How you say this
Speaker 1: span of sake to today? Say she wants you to
Speaker 1: say it? Let's flirty and creepy? Oh I don't know. Okay,
Speaker 1: let me try Charlemagne? Who you giving that donkey too?
Speaker 1: How's that one little base? Little base? I like it?
Speaker 1: I like it along. Maybe you can say something like, Charlemagne,
Speaker 1: I know you got a nice donkey. Who you want
Speaker 1: to give it to? Hey, that's a little freaky. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Good day to switch it up? Switch it up?
Speaker 1: And Angela we talked a couple of months ago. I
Speaker 1: told you your name reminds me of the East infection.
Speaker 1: You said you were gonna change and Angela deed, Angela team,
Speaker 1: you gotta let go of the yed. So you want
Speaker 1: me to just just own my family? Yes, she want
Speaker 1: you to turn Muslim. Angela acts No, I don't want
Speaker 1: you to turn on your culture. That would be roved.
Speaker 1: But it just makes me hitch every time I hear.
Speaker 1: It makes me. Have you ever had a yeast infection pregnant?
Speaker 1: I did and it was not pleasant. So you're giving
Speaker 1: me flashback? I like y'all Goodbye day day. You can't
Speaker 1: tell goodbye Slanders Austin. It is awesome. Man from Houston.
Speaker 1: What's going on? Man? What's up? Brously end of the
Speaker 1: Breakfast Club? Man? What's going on? And I want to say,
Speaker 1: you know you're a real wo man. You know the
Speaker 1: stupid everybody on the show. You know you I really
Speaker 1: looked up to you, man, Angela man, beautiful, your whole
Speaker 1: But I just think you know you ain't thought a
Speaker 1: thought it like like like you be talking about in
Speaker 1: your interviews, you know, to sir, I think you know
Speaker 1: you're a little bit on the soft side. I'm on
Speaker 1: a little bit on that. He said, soft side. I
Speaker 1: am a soft team. Okay, you see, like I said,
Speaker 1: Solomon slom A, right, I'm gonna come out to closing
Speaker 1: man um probably never never. Man. You know you can
Speaker 1: look at it with a little makeup on you. Thank
Speaker 1: you night at this morning. Thank you. I want to
Speaker 1: know your girl. Thank you baby. Hey, today's National Hot
Speaker 1: Fund Sunday Day. But you have a crush on shot.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Why did you hang out hang up when
Speaker 1: they're flirting with me? I'm sorry you like that? Why
Speaker 1: ain't people when they flirting with you? I did enjoy it? Okay,
Speaker 1: compliment is a compliment, all right? Well, your makeup looks
Speaker 1: nice today, Bay, I don't win makeup, but thank you
Speaker 1: for complimenting. Doctor Sandy's work is flawless. Skin. My skin
Speaker 1: has flawless by the way, sweet face, Hey, what's up?
Speaker 1: Sweet face club? I wasn't talking about you. I can't
Speaker 1: tell Sho does have a sweet face lay from alone.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Flattery will get you everywhere. He's stupid. Yes,
Speaker 1: slander the breakfast club. Sweet face, DJ, yes, ma'am envy.
Speaker 1: I need you to pick up at the stars, to
Speaker 1: find another word to use instead of amazing. I've been practicing.
Speaker 1: You want to double dawn, you double damn gonna be amazing,
Speaker 1: and you say amazing, amazing. I've been practicing. You want
Speaker 1: to know what I'm not gonna lie v. He's making
Speaker 1: me say the word amazing. I'm like, when did I
Speaker 1: start using this awesome? Breathtaking, fabulous, heart stopping, marvelous, amazing,
Speaker 1: stay amazing all the time, wonderful, extraordinary, a phenomenal, sensational, spectacular?
Speaker 1: Can you sing amazing? Can you sing amazing? Can you
Speaker 1: sing amazing? Grace? Uh mactacular? Grace? A sweet? I love you?
Speaker 1: But now all right, fine, goodbye? You do Because I
Speaker 1: was like, why am I using this word? He's always
Speaker 1: calling everything. I've never noticed you say amazing so much
Speaker 1: because when I call you amazing, you like it. I mean,
Speaker 1: have you seen my skin? What it is? Amazing? Eye
Speaker 1: would be like Carson's coming to be amazing. We had
Speaker 1: some amazing spots, had an amazing meeting with Lincoln Tech.
Speaker 1: My wife told me the same thing. I've been practicing
Speaker 1: all right, we got more coming up next. We're a
Speaker 1: breakfast club, yeah Wanning, everybody's DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlomagne
Speaker 1: the guy. We are the breakfast Club. Now we got
Speaker 1: some special guests, some special legends icons. They both friends
Speaker 1: to the room. They both been on the Breakfast Club
Speaker 1: numerous times. We had a brother eat forty but forty,
Speaker 1: what's happening? What's happening Claire? And also too Short? So
Speaker 1: what's up? What's up? Man? Now? What? Now? What do
Speaker 1: we owe the pleasure of having these two icons on
Speaker 1: this zoom for? This is about the super group that
Speaker 1: I'm hearing about with with with forty and Short and
Speaker 1: Snoop Dogs. That's what it's about. You talked to Short
Speaker 1: about that. He don't want to let the cat off
Speaker 1: the bag. Oh man, it's it's big man. It's big man.
Speaker 1: We want some other other stuff right now, Man, we're
Speaker 1: doing um, we're about to do versus mans you mean
Speaker 1: and forty on versus Now? How did this come on
Speaker 1: against each other? Yeah? It would seem like we might
Speaker 1: team up against somebody else, but now we're going against
Speaker 1: each other. Okay, okay, we're doing it for the bat
Speaker 1: Man that's short now pause pause pause. You know he
Speaker 1: Forty got a slick mouth, So how are you gonna
Speaker 1: deal with his his his slick mouth doing the thirty years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've been I know, up deal with a little bit. Man.
Speaker 1: I can't control him, but he's he's uh, you just
Speaker 1: gotta like man, I told you before we jump in
Speaker 1: the car. So he got through a couple of jobs
Speaker 1: early because he gonna he's gonna probably like hey, maker
Speaker 1: you in a minute. I think, if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 1: this is the first West Coast versus West Coast versus.
Speaker 1: I mean, we saw Snoop go up against X, but
Speaker 1: I don't think we've seen the West Coach versus West
Speaker 1: Coach versus yet. We would have did it a little earlier, man,
Speaker 1: But I was resisting. You know, Forty wasn't really wasn't
Speaker 1: really into it. Man, for the fact that you know,
Speaker 1: we coolnest. It seemed like it was a war or
Speaker 1: you gotta go against him and talk bad and stuff,
Speaker 1: and we kind of like you thought it through and
Speaker 1: was like, man, let's let's let's do the bay. Because
Speaker 1: we basically are the story of the beginning of the bay,
Speaker 1: the foundation where it start. You can't really get too
Speaker 1: many stories that come before or even during our early days.
Speaker 1: There's not a lot going on outside of you know,
Speaker 1: Mac Drey was doing this. Drey y'all three, Mac Dray y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all would be like the you know they say jay
Speaker 1: Z Biggie Nas, y'all would be that for the bit.
Speaker 1: I think Mac Drey forty Short. So you know, I
Speaker 1: was just like, man, earl, I don't want to do it. Man,
Speaker 1: I don't want to do it. And then he called
Speaker 1: me one day. This is how they got me. He
Speaker 1: called me on it three way with Twiss, and now
Speaker 1: I got Swiss and Forty trying to give me the
Speaker 1: pros while they're doing you know, by the end of
Speaker 1: the column like all right, let's do it. It's a celebration.
Speaker 1: You know, I wonder I want both of y'all to
Speaker 1: answer this. What does the verses battle between Short and
Speaker 1: forty me to the West coast in the Bay Area,
Speaker 1: I mean to the world m hip hop culture. Man,
Speaker 1: just showing that you know, we me and shure we
Speaker 1: go we go back like angel flights and members only
Speaker 1: jackets feel me. And so you know, when you think
Speaker 1: of the Bay you think of us too, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying in the same sentence, you know, and
Speaker 1: so me and Shure they never had no confrontations. All
Speaker 1: his people know my people from the beginning, br before
Speaker 1: rap you feel me, br br before wrap you feel me.
Speaker 1: And so when once we teamed up and did that
Speaker 1: damn Rappers ball, we knew each other through the you know,
Speaker 1: through the soils and the traffic, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So it just only made sense. So many people was
Speaker 1: hitting us, like so many people was hitting us about this,
Speaker 1: this about versus that It's like, man, we need to
Speaker 1: see you you in short, you know you're in short.
Speaker 1: That would be the ultimate one for us. You feel me?
Speaker 1: And so I have brought it up to Todd one day.
Speaker 1: I say, man, if we ever did versus what you do?
Speaker 1: If they don't know, if they ever asked us to
Speaker 1: do versus, would you do it? And he was like,
Speaker 1: I ain't interest. I wasn't really interested at first either.
Speaker 1: I'm wasn't interested because I said, why why do I
Speaker 1: have to You know, I got this body at work
Speaker 1: that I did. Why should I step up and show
Speaker 1: off or or prove anything. I'm like, bro, I did mine.
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta cold running like you wish you
Speaker 1: a rapper, wish you could get the run I got in,
Speaker 1: like wish they can have one of your runs? You
Speaker 1: feel me? So you know I was on the same
Speaker 1: page as him, like the same way, like you know
Speaker 1: what what we have to prove. But then you know,
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what, man, this is. This is
Speaker 1: for for the culture. Man, It's for the for hip hop. Bro.
Speaker 1: They I know they all love to see it, and
Speaker 1: we feel like this is a celebration. You feel me. Now,
Speaker 1: y'all doing a joint? Aum, I know you me talking
Speaker 1: about it, but we're hearing is it Snoop Dog? And
Speaker 1: I heard ice Cube? But y'all, I'm just kidding. Yeah,
Speaker 1: y'all bounced around and yeah, you know y'all curved us.
Speaker 1: But oh, y'all doing the album of the project. What
Speaker 1: are they talking about? Yeo, man, it's it's I'm saying
Speaker 1: like this man, it's twenty twenty. Yeah, we've been quarantining
Speaker 1: for a long time, most of the time me but um,
Speaker 1: I felt I fell out my quarantine for a while.
Speaker 1: But I'm back on it now and it's got a
Speaker 1: lot of time, man, a lot of time. So we've
Speaker 1: just been doing stuff. Man, we would get out and about.
Speaker 1: He said, when I when I fell off my quarantine,
Speaker 1: I got it in man, like late summer, I was,
Speaker 1: I was, I fell off. But I've been quarantine through
Speaker 1: the whole time. I'm I've been. I got everything I
Speaker 1: need though, you feel me. You know I got I
Speaker 1: got positive income coming in here. You feel me, different
Speaker 1: revenue streams, you know what I'm saying. And um, you
Speaker 1: know I got this this nudio been, I got two
Speaker 1: snudios up in this time, you feel me. So music
Speaker 1: is my life, you know what I'm saying. I'm just
Speaker 1: been thinking of you know, passion projects, man, and coming
Speaker 1: up with all kind of you know, things to develop,
Speaker 1: whether it's food, whether it's you know, beverages. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Doing this tech thing, you feel me,
Speaker 1: start up companies, the whole woolwap. So it's many things.
Speaker 1: And then at the same time, you want to tell
Speaker 1: them how you want to talk, tell them how that
Speaker 1: came about? Long story, short man, long story, short man.
Speaker 1: We gotta, um, we gotta. We made a lot of
Speaker 1: songs and it ain't really like definite what it's gonna be,
Speaker 1: but it's gonna be something. And it's just a lot
Speaker 1: of songs. So who's on these records? Because I'm hearing
Speaker 1: the group is you forty and Snoop and Nice Cube
Speaker 1: don't Okay, okay, it's not official yet. It's not a group.
Speaker 1: There is no name, there's no like, oh yeah, the project.
Speaker 1: It's not even like that. We just we're just some ogs. Man.
Speaker 1: Everybody got studios and facilities and beats and you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, We're just doing it. It's something. I
Speaker 1: feel like we're doing this for hip hop. And when
Speaker 1: I say that, because you could be doing it for
Speaker 1: the bag. Nobody don't need the bag. So basically, I
Speaker 1: feel like we got all these uh these rule and
Speaker 1: regulations and age limits and what where's the best time
Speaker 1: zone and what's the best era and who's the best
Speaker 1: age group? But all this stuff that's like it don't
Speaker 1: mean nothing to hip hop because hip hop is is
Speaker 1: very uncontrollable. So when I say we're doing it for
Speaker 1: hip hop, which is my main motivation, is I'm fifty
Speaker 1: four years old. If we do anything, it's gonna come
Speaker 1: out when I'm fifty five years old so and to
Speaker 1: drop something dope and to be a working MC who's
Speaker 1: been working since he was fifteen years old, never had
Speaker 1: another job, like really like eating off hip hop my
Speaker 1: whole entire life. That to me should be motivational to
Speaker 1: an up and coming rapper, inspiring rapper, an established rapper,
Speaker 1: like you sit there and look at you so over
Speaker 1: in the mirror and be like, what are my limitations?
Speaker 1: I gotta stop doing this when I'm thirty five, when
Speaker 1: I'm forty. They kept telling me that I was an
Speaker 1: og rapper when I was thirty twenty four years ago.
Speaker 1: That's right. And the game man, so we just drink
Speaker 1: we blazed and trails. Man, you can't tell me. You
Speaker 1: can't tell me Fat Joe ain't doing it. Ain't tell
Speaker 1: me before they ain't doing it. Snoop dogg ain't doing it. Um,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, busting right that we we
Speaker 1: the bag is consistent, man, Don't don't do this age
Speaker 1: is something in hip hop. Don't be an og and
Speaker 1: tell me that these young rich cats ain't doing it right.
Speaker 1: Don't tell me that, man, because when I look at
Speaker 1: my when I look at my strings and look at
Speaker 1: their streams I'm like, they're doing something right. We're doing
Speaker 1: something right. I don't I don't knock them, man, because
Speaker 1: it's a new it's a whole new generation. They're doing
Speaker 1: it a lot different. But hey, we was once young.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We carried it a little different.
Speaker 1: But you know, you can't knock these junces, man, if
Speaker 1: anything joined them, you feel me, because ogs need youngces
Speaker 1: and youngces need ogs and don't have don't have the
Speaker 1: opposite um attitude either, Like all you old dudes get
Speaker 1: out the way. That's whack. You know, it ain't like
Speaker 1: that man's there's a hip hop. It's for the world now, man,
Speaker 1: because that's all that shot, all that shot. Oh man,
Speaker 1: I need to wrap it up. It's too old. Would
Speaker 1: I ain't hurt it in hell alone? Anybody say that?
Speaker 1: Just aheaded with a mother voters regularly. That's right. The
Speaker 1: young artist should be looking at y'all and saying, man,
Speaker 1: I want that kind of longevity. I want that kind
Speaker 1: of catalog. Because one thing about you and short and
Speaker 1: all the ogs, y'all not getting paid for what y'all do.
Speaker 1: Y'all still get y'all get payper what y'all done. Here
Speaker 1: you go, all right, we got more with too Short
Speaker 1: and EAT forty when we come back, dope move. It's
Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club. Good morning, good morning. Everybody is DJ Envy,
Speaker 1: Angela Yee, Charlomagne, the guy we are the Breakfast Club
Speaker 1: was still kicking it with E forty and too Short?
Speaker 1: But this verses, are we gonna get an album or
Speaker 1: single the day after the verses or the day to
Speaker 1: the verses? I mean, it's only right millions of people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, like I said, man, twenty twenty was that
Speaker 1: kind of year. I make a lot of music just
Speaker 1: you know, just because that's what I do. But in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, it's like I got this whole new inspiration
Speaker 1: of you're gonna lock me up in the house with
Speaker 1: a studio. I'm just gonna start making songs. So uh yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I gotta I got some stuff I'm gonna drop. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm dropping a project called Ain't Gonna Do It
Speaker 1: and it's um it's the beginning of this motivational I'm
Speaker 1: trying to like balance out. We got the pimps over
Speaker 1: here and the tricks over there, and everybody's out of control.
Speaker 1: So I'm trying to find a balance, like you gotta
Speaker 1: know your lane, you know, kind of kind of toned
Speaker 1: down the tricking a little bit hard on the pimp silence.
Speaker 1: You know. It's try you know, trying to like, you know,
Speaker 1: be age appropriate. But at the same time, I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be one of them ogs that go
Speaker 1: way to the other side, like girl, how much you
Speaker 1: want me to wire you and doing that? You still
Speaker 1: ain't doing no tricking. Short after all these years they
Speaker 1: say they ain't tricking as you were fit now, man,
Speaker 1: come on, man, it's not that's not true. Not trying
Speaker 1: to be a rescue. Ronnie and the cash Aft changed
Speaker 1: the game. Man. Well, I'm also got a project drop dropping.
Speaker 1: You dropping dropping on the eighteen You got one on
Speaker 1: the eighteenth part, Yeah, I heard that you're dropping on
Speaker 1: the same day night before. Yeah, the same thing. My
Speaker 1: own project will considers probably about ten to twelve song
Speaker 1: somewhere around there. It's called terms and conditions. It's just
Speaker 1: really just gaming, you know, gaming folks up. You know,
Speaker 1: that's my specialty. Just gaming them up, stilling, you know,
Speaker 1: giving them some party two, give them to you know,
Speaker 1: ride to mob out and the old schools or whatever,
Speaker 1: you know, the new schools whatever. So you know, it's
Speaker 1: just it's just gas like always. You know, I might
Speaker 1: need some terms. Oakland and Vale Hooks have been getting down.
Speaker 1: Back at our day, they was really like tight. Like
Speaker 1: we used to actually click up and go to different
Speaker 1: little areas as a you know, like we got our
Speaker 1: Oakland mob, they got their Valayoup mob. We click up
Speaker 1: and go out as a supermob and just pop up
Speaker 1: somewhere else. We did a lot of that, but it
Speaker 1: was all based on crack cocaine drug sales. Like a
Speaker 1: lot of dudes in valayout sold and partnered up with
Speaker 1: a lot of dudes in Oakland and what's like little teams,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and forties people and my
Speaker 1: people was on the same team. So we would go
Speaker 1: to like like you said, damn FOLDI parking Vallejo. We
Speaker 1: pull up and be like you know, valaouts hosting that day.
Speaker 1: Oh y'all just come down and show you some love.
Speaker 1: We're gonna hang around, moved around the city. That's how
Speaker 1: it was. And then you know, they pile up in
Speaker 1: their cars, pull up the open designated area, hangout and
Speaker 1: it was cool. So we come from a click, specifically
Speaker 1: Forty and his brother getting down in the game with
Speaker 1: somebody who's been with me my whole life, one of
Speaker 1: my best best friends. So it was it was always
Speaker 1: real tight. But we wouldn't. It wouldn't. I would never
Speaker 1: see Forty and be like, hey man, you're rapper is tight,
Speaker 1: or hey man, when you're dropping something new, or hey man,
Speaker 1: let's do a song together. It wasn't that kind of friendship.
Speaker 1: But driven we didn't make records. So ninety five, yeah,
Speaker 1: many years after we met and we was on the
Speaker 1: same record label. I came in the ninety three on
Speaker 1: Jove Records signed. I signed the March of ninety four,
Speaker 1: already took my first record out of nineteen eighty five.
Speaker 1: I Ain't never stopped. My first record was called Don't
Speaker 1: Stop Rapping. I Ain't never stopped rapper. When I just
Speaker 1: slapped the out of that ship and my mother cougar.
Speaker 1: I had a cougar with the gold luggage rack with
Speaker 1: gold tips, gold grill, gold deal against lights, the Gold League, burden,
Speaker 1: leanders and balls, cutting up every maine. Uh. And so
Speaker 1: that he taught me how to put just from his music,
Speaker 1: taught me how to put a whole bunch of game
Speaker 1: involved in my ship nine, so it's got everything. I
Speaker 1: gotta be game orientated. Were you rapping in forty like?
Speaker 1: Around ever? I heard sugar Hill Gang in nineteen seventy nine,
Speaker 1: when I heard when I heard Robbers Delight, I was
Speaker 1: a rapper from then on. I just didn't have the access.
Speaker 1: I was in the marching band. I played the band
Speaker 1: from fourth grade all the way to twelfth grade, which
Speaker 1: some people might not have thought that was Cooper. I
Speaker 1: didn't lose no cool points Maine. I was still that.
Speaker 1: I was still a fixture. There was the only form
Speaker 1: of music we didn't have access to, a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of We didn't have pro tools, we didn't have logic.
Speaker 1: You know Short, People don't know Short is a producer.
Speaker 1: I am too like my first one was mister flint Point.
Speaker 1: I'm one of those producers who never given myself a
Speaker 1: credit on a song. I just don't if it's me
Speaker 1: on my song, I just I don't put produced by
Speaker 1: too Short. But I made a lot, But why not
Speaker 1: because he gonna make the song sound better. Plus I
Speaker 1: never make beats for anybody else. I don't want kind
Speaker 1: of want to this call of me saying, but sure,
Speaker 1: let me get a beat. But it's like what I
Speaker 1: do now is I kind of like work with producers
Speaker 1: and I enhanced to shut you know, refine it and
Speaker 1: do to it, you know, doctor Dre style. But if
Speaker 1: I was a producer and I knew how to engineer,
Speaker 1: I would be king like Kanye West or something, and
Speaker 1: I would never come out the lab. I would I
Speaker 1: would be a Timberland mad scientist. But I really don't
Speaker 1: want to be that guy. I really, I really don't
Speaker 1: want them skills, because I really would never come out
Speaker 1: to the studio, So I shied away from that. I met.
Speaker 1: I met a dude named at Banks. He makes beats
Speaker 1: like me, except better than me. I was like making
Speaker 1: beats with Banks. That was that. So that y'all got.
Speaker 1: Y'all got people like Banks, doctor Dre dass, y'all got
Speaker 1: on new project. Everybody your name is definitely gonna be
Speaker 1: on there. We tapped into the natural resources that we
Speaker 1: have access to battle Cat. I mean, really, I'm telling you, man,
Speaker 1: it's not like he learned. I did not say. We
Speaker 1: didn't say that. We're just some homies that if you
Speaker 1: want to call it something. Just call it snoop que
Speaker 1: forty and short. We really just like we right right now,
Speaker 1: we're jumping on these calls. Some about I gotta beat,
Speaker 1: wrap on this beat, send me a beat. It was
Speaker 1: around to sending beach to each other and it ended
Speaker 1: up being twenty five song we'd like sound good, so
Speaker 1: we kept doing it and it's something. It's a lot
Speaker 1: of value to it. You're talking about for entrepreneurs. Were
Speaker 1: about to milk that. We're about to make it a
Speaker 1: bigger than music ll season. Do you understand me? Like
Speaker 1: other bro, But we're not a supergroup. We're LLC. That's
Speaker 1: what it is. Allee good, Buddy's exactly what it is.
Speaker 1: Everything we do is gonna be a business deal, a
Speaker 1: business transaction. It's gonna be it's gonna be the LLC.
Speaker 1: It's not a group and about a song. Watch what
Speaker 1: I tell you what comes out of the partnership. It's
Speaker 1: something that I feel like, I feel like hip hop
Speaker 1: needs to like check this motto out. When you when
Speaker 1: you see it go down, you can you can smell
Speaker 1: it right now when you see it go down. Check
Speaker 1: the formula and let's interject this in the hip hop
Speaker 1: to where you know I'm gonna speak on something, man,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna speak on E forty and too short and
Speaker 1: then geez and Gucci. There was a point in time
Speaker 1: and E forty and too short. Well, we could have
Speaker 1: turned our friendship to a Gucci Jeez dynamic. And we
Speaker 1: jumped on a phone call. They was trying to pretend
Speaker 1: that I was I was doing something against Forty. It's
Speaker 1: like nineteen ninety five and Forty called me on the phone.
Speaker 1: He said, Hey, did you say such a sense? I
Speaker 1: said nah. He said you sure you weren't on the
Speaker 1: radio this morning and said such a session. I said nah,
Speaker 1: And we got off the phone. Somebody had been on
Speaker 1: the radio pretending to be me talking hell is about forty.
Speaker 1: It was hot and he didn't. Instead of getting hot
Speaker 1: and reacting, he hit me up and said, what's up?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? He was still matter the scenes.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't have to. Everything got to be
Speaker 1: publicized on the NetTel like that. Like I called personally
Speaker 1: and like, hey, we'll handled with this. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I just want to make sure. I just
Speaker 1: want to make sure I'm thinking crazy on that, and
Speaker 1: you feel me that's just you resolved that. We resolved
Speaker 1: the whole issue by going in the studio and making
Speaker 1: a song called rappers Ball, and he's the first time
Speaker 1: what they do was that's the first time the word
Speaker 1: for cheesy was ever mentioned to history. So what I
Speaker 1: was gonna say was, if E forty and two Short
Speaker 1: would have turned on each other, it was a whole
Speaker 1: lot of what came with that ship. It would have
Speaker 1: been ugly. We would have fed up the story of
Speaker 1: the Bay. And I think that, you know, Jez and
Speaker 1: Gucci didn't up Atlanta nothing, But I think that on
Speaker 1: the opposite side of like what we saw in versus
Speaker 1: with them, if Jez and Gucci would have been fifteen
Speaker 1: years twenty years of camaraderie, they would be E forty
Speaker 1: and two show. And I'm just saying it go it
Speaker 1: goes so far out of line. Man Earl might have
Speaker 1: a play on some money and he like, man, I'm
Speaker 1: moving this way that week, but I got a money
Speaker 1: play off. You want to get it? And here tell
Speaker 1: the folks, man, I can't do it. Holed Is Short
Speaker 1: just shot me twenty five rats just on a text
Speaker 1: message like bad. You know what I'm saying, and what
Speaker 1: are the debate if forty crew in my crew turn
Speaker 1: the enemy and one of us got killed, what are
Speaker 1: we happened in nineteen ninety six? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, keep a lock. Let's get into an E
Speaker 1: forty two short mini mixes to Breakfast Club, Good Morning.
Speaker 1: I'm still kicking it with E forty and two short Charming.
Speaker 1: You know the story that that short told, you know,
Speaker 1: just about communication, man, communication, It's so important. It made
Speaker 1: me think about Beggin and Pop because they were friends
Speaker 1: and in the movie and I y'all lived it. I
Speaker 1: didn't live it. In the movie Biggie wanted to call
Speaker 1: poking puffs like nine nine nine nine, Let it be,
Speaker 1: Let it be. So it just shows how far things
Speaker 1: can go when two brothers just don't get to the
Speaker 1: root of the problem. Man, communication, let me tell you something,
Speaker 1: and also putting your pride to the side can save
Speaker 1: lives a lot of things. But misunderstanders and miscommunication even
Speaker 1: in the soils and the trenches in the you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, in the octagon, it's like that's how
Speaker 1: it be. It's like a lot of casts can really,
Speaker 1: you know, fix their problems just on communicating because it'd
Speaker 1: be a lot of sideline up. Hellam messy in the background,
Speaker 1: and like bitches can be messy, a lot of folks
Speaker 1: start over bitches because you got to prove something to
Speaker 1: them instead of putting their podcast aside and say, you
Speaker 1: know what, man, I don't want nobody innocent in my
Speaker 1: family to get knocked down. So we're gonna try to
Speaker 1: diffuse just the best of my abilities. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Who want to always watch their back all
Speaker 1: their life? Man? You know what I'm saying. Uh, it's
Speaker 1: a great world out there, bro lovely. You know what
Speaker 1: I would trying to tell these Johnson Man, It's bigger
Speaker 1: than Fox blocks, man, you know what I mean? You
Speaker 1: really do want to enjoy life? Man, That's that's that's
Speaker 1: the part that I always stressed that, you know. Short
Speaker 1: The first time we ever had Sendati Kamala Harris on
Speaker 1: Breakfast Club was two thousand and eighteen, right, and this
Speaker 1: before she was running for president and anything. And one
Speaker 1: of us after who her favorite rapper, was that she
Speaker 1: was out from Oakland short off time and I don't
Speaker 1: and that and for whatever I mean, I guess you know,
Speaker 1: back then she wasn't on the national scene in that way,
Speaker 1: not culturally, just politically, so I guess people didn't really
Speaker 1: pick up on it. But she said too Short was
Speaker 1: her favorite rope. Let me say that too short the mayor,
Speaker 1: the mayor Oakland. Well, you know, it's really like some
Speaker 1: DNA thing when it comes to the Bay, Like, okay,
Speaker 1: I like, I say, I'm I'm fifty four and I've
Speaker 1: been making music that I put out in the streets
Speaker 1: of the Bay since I was fourteen fifteen. So it's
Speaker 1: people like you could be in your forties right now
Speaker 1: and you was literally like a little kid who grew
Speaker 1: up on too Short. Like it's that much of a
Speaker 1: dynamic in the Bay where I'm on I'm on third,
Speaker 1: you know, grandparents and grandkids loving the same too Short
Speaker 1: song right now? Yeah, I asked, I asked, Kamalo. You know,
Speaker 1: I said, if you, I said, if you're rock with
Speaker 1: too short? And what's my what's my favorite word? I
Speaker 1: can't say? She like, I can't say that, I can't
Speaker 1: say it, she said, she did. She said she I
Speaker 1: can't say it. I can't say that. I can't fit you.
Speaker 1: Have you ever had any reactions with her and Oakland. Sure,
Speaker 1: by the look of how how she is, I probably
Speaker 1: did pop out. All it's a small I'm said smoke broccoli.
Speaker 1: She said she did in college. Hey, she could scream
Speaker 1: that she made it right now that's legalized. May you
Speaker 1: feel me? I can? You know in my young days, man,
Speaker 1: I only really dated super like nerdy high ships. I
Speaker 1: never really went for it, like the chick who's got
Speaker 1: like brothers like E forty like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: when the opposite man, he's he's great, I'm really did
Speaker 1: I'm you know what I'm saying. I'm a real husband.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I got a wife. She's
Speaker 1: been with me since high school. You feel me? Sure
Speaker 1: he married his high school sweetheart. I'm married my high
Speaker 1: school sweetheart. Sure, sure he'd be moving around. Man. You know,
Speaker 1: but that's my part of that. We we got two
Speaker 1: different things, but we we know we coasted in the
Speaker 1: book or to a nose that's not it's short. The
Speaker 1: part that the wife don't want you around like I
Speaker 1: know you're around. No, because he knows where they know
Speaker 1: each other, because they was short, respect her and vice verse.
Speaker 1: He know what, you know the limits that don't go,
Speaker 1: he know, not to play. They put the bitch filter
Speaker 1: on me. Man. You know the bitch filter is they said,
Speaker 1: don't bring any girls around that you don't that you
Speaker 1: don't share your coffee table with, Like if you if
Speaker 1: she don't live in my house, I'm gonna tell you her.
Speaker 1: I'm unfolded. Let me tell how it happened. Okay, Short,
Speaker 1: when he comes to me, come work, work in the studio.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Every day, my youngest son,
Speaker 1: every time he over here, my youngest son to be
Speaker 1: playing video games. She had a little video game in
Speaker 1: the back, video games and one or two shorts brawls, right,
Speaker 1: and he was a little he was a little like five.
Speaker 1: How he five years old at the time to like
Speaker 1: that for you and hanging out with the girls, and
Speaker 1: he like they you try to take my short, but
Speaker 1: you try to take my girlfriend, right. So, but they
Speaker 1: ain't doing That's the funny part. But the thing is
Speaker 1: one day one of the broths like, yeah, I be
Speaker 1: over forty house all the time. They got back to
Speaker 1: us one of the right, and so wife was like,
Speaker 1: you know what till Short, if he can total more
Speaker 1: girls over here, boy always need a picture that you
Speaker 1: post with Pop Man with y'all drinking a forty and
Speaker 1: I always wonder what was the story behind that picture?
Speaker 1: Was we drinking? Was it a forty y'all drinking something?
Speaker 1: I don't know what it was that was that was
Speaker 1: he had Alexa and his Alixa aloxada him. I had Alxa,
Speaker 1: I had alexam my head. That's that was a drink
Speaker 1: back there, Alexa. Um. What was the story that was
Speaker 1: at Rapper's Ball VI's video when we took the video
Speaker 1: a party? Man? Huh? The video was a party went
Speaker 1: in a video just still a party and it was
Speaker 1: at the same time, wow, you know. But Rapper's Ball
Speaker 1: was that we did then in Calibassa's right, And so
Speaker 1: pop I told Popa, who was gonna be it in La?
Speaker 1: He said, I'm gonna come through. I said, He said,
Speaker 1: what a thing at? I say, it's in Calabassa's right.
Speaker 1: He said, stay right around the corner. I got just
Speaker 1: got a house right around the corner. Julie came, kick
Speaker 1: Hella all day with us, got toasted, play music the
Speaker 1: whole woo wap. You know what I'm saying. So in
Speaker 1: the video you all through the visit video rap think
Speaker 1: that day. That day he played us the whole macavelioum
Speaker 1: before it came out, Wow yea and Moore and some
Speaker 1: other ones, and he wanted to do a group. I
Speaker 1: forgot what he was calling to, but he wanted me
Speaker 1: Dyson smooth, hella just hella, hella ogs. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Verses, then this verse is gonna be so
Speaker 1: classic man this Saturday. Make sure y'all tune in. Man.
Speaker 1: I'm excited for this fore. I mean, yeah, the main
Speaker 1: reason I'm excited because I always feel like the Bay
Speaker 1: Area doesn't get the proper respect it deserves and hip hop,
Speaker 1: even though y'all influenced so much. So one thing I
Speaker 1: see the verses to do is it reminds people and
Speaker 1: and and not only remind people, wakes people up, like
Speaker 1: oh that came from that, that was them, Like, well,
Speaker 1: we're gonna tell some stories, man, I'm gonna bring y'all
Speaker 1: back to my Atlantic years too. I ain't. I ain't
Speaker 1: just a bay I put I put fifteen years in
Speaker 1: the Atlanta to a lot of a lot of influence. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of little I see a lot of little
Speaker 1: kids in the lane to look like you where I
Speaker 1: might if I had any kids that I didn't know about. That.
Speaker 1: With that, I met Little John Because of this guy
Speaker 1: right here. Man, he embraced Little John and me being
Speaker 1: on showls with them and running into Little John. We
Speaker 1: ended up working. Imagine question for you, do you do
Speaker 1: personal catering? Because gooon with the spoon do personal okatering.
Speaker 1: I'm so glad that you brought that up. So the
Speaker 1: gun with the spoon, let me tell y'all, So the
Speaker 1: gooon with the spoon, it's really some street ship. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. There's really some streets that I
Speaker 1: converted into you know what I'm saying. That all add
Speaker 1: up to the same thing. It's cooking. We could cook, yeah,
Speaker 1: build me um. So the goodle with the spoon just
Speaker 1: naturally half of it. It was natural, like an app
Speaker 1: for bro, you know, just being the oldest of four,
Speaker 1: you know, knowing how to cook and working at the restaurants.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Who working at the restaurant? Uh?
Speaker 1: I call it um um, I call it a Michelin
Speaker 1: star restaurant, But it really wasn't. It was a Pernicia California.
Speaker 1: It was called the Commandos Restaurant and hell of rich people.
Speaker 1: I'm cooking London Broy, I'm cooking chicken cord on blue.
Speaker 1: I'm cooking I never heard this. I'm making making an
Speaker 1: orange roughie. You know what I'm saying, paying fried you
Speaker 1: understanding with uh with with with drawn, but with brown
Speaker 1: butter and all minds. You feel what I'm saying. I'm
Speaker 1: doing that kind of mate, you know what I'm talking about. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you know I didn't mixed up with my magazine
Speaker 1: street specialty meals that I understand me that I made.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying back in the days and
Speaker 1: the glory days. You feel me? So I just quit
Speaker 1: it heavy the goon with But I do I'm gonna
Speaker 1: ask you a question. I haven't did kidding yet. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm just I just tore around with this. But I
Speaker 1: know what I'm doing because it's it'sn't laid up into
Speaker 1: ko packing. So a lot of people don't know that
Speaker 1: logo when you see good with the spoon. I got
Speaker 1: a lot of coming, bro you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I got a lot of meat products coming with that
Speaker 1: logo on that goon with the spoon and I'll reveal
Speaker 1: that in the next interview. Hell up, but this Saturday,
Speaker 1: make sure you tune into the verses too short e
Speaker 1: forty Man, we appreciate you guys for checking in so much. Man,
Speaker 1: we appreciate y'all. Thank y'all. We're having us on this platform.
Speaker 1: And good brothers changed. Change that supergroup to a super LLC.
Speaker 1: All right, it's the breakfast Club. Good order it don't
Speaker 1: be a dusky because right now you are some real
Speaker 1: It's time for Donkey Day. I need to be a
Speaker 1: dark man. Did she get I had become Donkey of
Speaker 1: the Day? Breakfast Club bitches. Dunkey of to day goes
Speaker 1: to see PAC chairman and Trump advisor Matt Slap. Now,
Speaker 1: I want to take this time this morning to discuss
Speaker 1: with you cultural blind spot. We all have them most
Speaker 1: of the time. We have them because what we think
Speaker 1: we know about other people is something we haven't experienced.
Speaker 1: It may be from something uh we read, something we
Speaker 1: saw in media on TV or film, heard on the radio,
Speaker 1: just observed in passing. We all make these assumptions about people.
Speaker 1: And what's dangerous about assumptions or somes is when a
Speaker 1: set of assumptions about something becomes common knowledge. It forms
Speaker 1: a stereotype. In some stereotypes a positive sum or negative.
Speaker 1: Some are just dangerous. Some are straight up bigoted and prejudiced.
Speaker 1: For example, you know black men have bigger penises. That's
Speaker 1: a positive stereotype. Positive stereotype for black men. Negative stereotype
Speaker 1: for the women that believe that but then find out
Speaker 1: that's not true. Okay, the dumb blonde, you know, the
Speaker 1: attractive blonde woman. That's stupid as hell. I don't know
Speaker 1: who reinforced that on TV in your generation, but Kelly
Speaker 1: Bundy reinforced it in mind. Okay, the dumb blonde, that
Speaker 1: was just stupid. All right. White men not being able
Speaker 1: to jump, they did a whole movie about it. Okay,
Speaker 1: how about white people not being able to dance, lacking rhythm? Okay,
Speaker 1: may not be as stereotype if it's true, but it's
Speaker 1: definitely some Caucasians out there who can dance word to
Speaker 1: justin Timberlake. All I'm simply saying is stereotypical tropes are
Speaker 1: a thing. Well, yesterday on Fox News, on the show
Speaker 1: Harris Faulkner was hosting, Matt Slapp was debating with a Queen.
Speaker 1: John Hopkins University Professor Wendy Osefo dropped on a clues
Speaker 1: bomb for Windy Ocefo. Wendy and I have done mental
Speaker 1: health discussions before at John Hopkins University in Baltimore, great discussions.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed building with her, and I'm glad she existed
Speaker 1: on this panel yesterday because there is a stereotypical trope
Speaker 1: that black men get labeled often that she corrected. Now,
Speaker 1: Matt and Wendy were discussing Donald Trump in his interview
Speaker 1: with Chris Wallace. The discussion turned to Joe Biden and
Speaker 1: his cognitive skills are lack thereof. And this is when
Speaker 1: Matt let his stereotypical trope about a black man fly.
Speaker 1: Let's hear it and pay attention after you hear it
Speaker 1: to hear what happened and how Wendy responded. Joe Biden
Speaker 1: is essentially trying to duck and cover, not have a
Speaker 1: full campaign hang out in his house, and none of
Speaker 1: us are able to really see what he's got. He
Speaker 1: ought to take an hour and answer all the tough questions,
Speaker 1: and he ought to release his schedule every day that
Speaker 1: shows that he's full all day long with events Instead
Speaker 1: we see a speech here or there. He does interviews.
Speaker 1: He did an interview with a rap star and he
Speaker 1: couldn't even get through that without a big foible on
Speaker 1: the U ain't black. So I think the problem is
Speaker 1: is Joe Biden is not running a fully energetic, real campaign.
Speaker 1: Wendy Opo. I want to get show response to this.
Speaker 1: What we want to hear is facts. What are you
Speaker 1: going to do for those individuals who have lost family
Speaker 1: members due to the pandemic. What are you going to
Speaker 1: do to ensure that we do not have another issue
Speaker 1: like George Floyd within our police department. That's what we
Speaker 1: want to hear. And when you know Biden made the
Speaker 1: comment about African Americans, that was not a rap star.
Speaker 1: That was Charlemagne the God, who is a nationally syndicated
Speaker 1: radio host. You know, I know he's a black man.
Speaker 1: So he may think he's a rapper, but he's not
Speaker 1: dropping a clue box. Wendy Opo. Again, thank God for
Speaker 1: black women. What would black panther be without the door
Speaker 1: in malaj My god, there is something about a black
Speaker 1: woman getting somebody together on behalf of black people. Because
Speaker 1: what Windy did, what Wendy did, wasn't for me, that
Speaker 1: was for us. Okay, Educating Matt Slap in that moment
Speaker 1: in real time is exactly what needs to happen. Remember
Speaker 1: last week when I said, if Nick Cannon was going
Speaker 1: to attempt to have a conversation about his assumptions of
Speaker 1: the Jewish community, he should have it with a Jewish
Speaker 1: scholar or rabbi, someone from that community who can correct
Speaker 1: his mistakes when he says something wrong, who can correct
Speaker 1: him if he says something they deem anti Semitic. That's
Speaker 1: what Windy Osephal was from Matt Slap in that moment.
Speaker 1: See rapper is a stereotypical trope that successful black men
Speaker 1: get labeled all the time because, for whatever reason, when
Speaker 1: some white people do see us, if they see us
Speaker 1: at all, they can't see us as anything else. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm clearly too short to be labeled a basketball player.
Speaker 1: So the only way I could be in first class
Speaker 1: on a flight or on your TV talking to a
Speaker 1: presidential candidate is because I rap. This happens to me
Speaker 1: all the time. I've seen so many of the mainscream.
Speaker 1: I know what happens to you, and you got confused
Speaker 1: with Drake. I've seen so many of these mainscream white
Speaker 1: publications label me a rapper. I've been on a flight.
Speaker 1: He've had white people ask me, you know, do I rap?
Speaker 1: Do I do music? I always reply I'm a proctologist,
Speaker 1: and did I make a fart sound? I'm serious, But
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna call match slapper racist for what. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna just say he has a cultural blind spot. Okay,
Speaker 1: I can't fault him for what he doesn't know. Plus,
Speaker 1: I used to really rap back in the day. Nothing serious,
Speaker 1: but I had a bar or two. And if all
Speaker 1: black people look alike to him, then hell, maybe we
Speaker 1: all look like rappers to him. Plus, tell him your
Speaker 1: rap name, son, I don't have a rap name. Maybe
Speaker 1: he's just familiar with the song black Men Don't Cheat,
Speaker 1: and that's where he knew you're from. No, that's not true.
Speaker 1: My rap name used to be Dizzy Van Winkle and
Speaker 1: but listen, I love rap. You know. Rap music has
Speaker 1: saved a lot of lives, took a lot of brothers
Speaker 1: and sisters out of the ghetto, made a lot of
Speaker 1: brothers and entrepreneurs, and has provided a lot of jobs
Speaker 1: for a lot of black and brown people. So being
Speaker 1: referred to as a rap star. I would call that
Speaker 1: a positive stereotype, but a stereotype nonetheless. And the moral
Speaker 1: of the story is contrary to this caucasian's culturally clueless belief.
Speaker 1: All black men you see on TV are not rappers
Speaker 1: and athletes. And you should never assume that, because Matt,
Speaker 1: when you assume, you make an ass out of you
Speaker 1: and me, because that's how it's spelled. Please let Chelsea
Speaker 1: Handler give Matt slap the biggest he haw he haw
Speaker 1: he haw. That is way too much. Dan Mann is
Speaker 1: now anybody I've seen this happen to you in real time, yes,
Speaker 1: or not in real time on video? Somebody who stook
Speaker 1: you for Drake yep. I get the same questions all
Speaker 1: the time. What team do you play for? You never
Speaker 1: did that stop all the time. Yes, I do. Maybe
Speaker 1: baseball because you're Dominican. Maybe that's six I'm six foot.
Speaker 1: I'm six foot, So I get h with what team
Speaker 1: do you play for? Up? Yesterday? I got am I
Speaker 1: a singer? I got that yesterday, So I get it all.
Speaker 1: Definitely singer, definitely, R and B vibes definitely, Neil Soul,
Speaker 1: R and B vibes definitely. All right, we got more
Speaker 1: coming up next with a breakfast Club. The Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1: You're checking out the world's most dangerous morning show. Morning
Speaker 1: Everybody is DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We
Speaker 1: are the Breakfast Club. You got a special guest on
Speaker 1: the line, The Brothers back right, Eric Dyson, Welcome back, brother,
Speaker 1: Hey man, it's great to be here. I'm thinking of
Speaker 1: the greatest hits. I want to start off like, put
Speaker 1: some respect on my name? All three, y'all put some
Speaker 1: respect on my day? Or here's the number, Gray Gray, Michael,
Speaker 1: Eric Dyson. The warning only is head. He's put out
Speaker 1: his seventeenth million book, A Long Time Coming In or
Speaker 1: Reckoning with Race in America. It's a great read. It's
Speaker 1: tough read, very tough reads. It a tough read. It's
Speaker 1: a tough read because, like the first chapter is black
Speaker 1: deaf and that's that's very hard to get through. But literally,
Speaker 1: the whole book's theme is essentially about black deafen and
Speaker 1: like one of my first questions was it as difficult
Speaker 1: to write as it was for me to read? Yes,
Speaker 1: but not as difficult as the people who died That's right.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm from an older generation. I know people
Speaker 1: can't tell, but I'm older. I'm sixty two years old.
Speaker 1: We didn't have safe spaces, we didn't have self care
Speaker 1: things that are necessary and critical and vital. But I
Speaker 1: know people say, give a trigger warnings. I'm in class
Speaker 1: my younger students when I'm about to watch the Kendrick
Speaker 1: Lamar video about you know we're gonna be all right?
Speaker 1: Should you give a warning? I'm not even used to that.
Speaker 1: I don't even think that way. I know I am
Speaker 1: sensitive to and empathetic with those who do. But I
Speaker 1: figured the people who died had no choice. Im Matil
Speaker 1: had no choice, George Floyd had no choice, Brianna Taylor
Speaker 1: had no choice. The least we could do is to
Speaker 1: wrestle with and grapple with, in an existential, personal, political,
Speaker 1: philosophical sense, the death that they endured. And yes, is
Speaker 1: it tough. Absolutely? Am I trying to retraumatize black people. No,
Speaker 1: But I'm saying at the same time, if they could
Speaker 1: sacrifice limb, corpuscle blood, then we embody. Then we can
Speaker 1: at least attempt to get inside their skin for a moment,
Speaker 1: to see what they felt, to know what the consequence
Speaker 1: of their death is and for us to grapple with
Speaker 1: that as the basis for trying to talk about racial
Speaker 1: reckoning in America. So yeah, it was tough, starting in
Speaker 1: the prelude with Elijah McClain, a twenty three year old
Speaker 1: young black man who some arguedents on the spectrum a
Speaker 1: sweet soul, as sweet as one could ever imagine. And
Speaker 1: here he is because wearing a ski mask before COVID
Speaker 1: because he had, you know, he was anemic and as
Speaker 1: a result of that, he wanted to stay warm, and
Speaker 1: the police roll upon him. He says, please respect the boundaries.
Speaker 1: I am articulately, I am speaking. And not only do
Speaker 1: they ignore him, they besiege him. They take hold of him,
Speaker 1: they put him in a chokehold, render him unconscious twice.
Speaker 1: The EFT arrives, they put tedement in him, and then
Speaker 1: a week later he's dead. I mean, this is the
Speaker 1: massive disregard for black life. This is the vicious, callous
Speaker 1: indifference to who we are. So I think the least
Speaker 1: we can do, yes, take a note, Yes, have a
Speaker 1: trigger warning. Yes we have to deal with this, but
Speaker 1: I think we've got to honor their deaths in many ways,
Speaker 1: and one of them it is at least understanding the
Speaker 1: horror and tragedy of what they confront it. I wanted
Speaker 1: to put that on paper as poignantly, as vividly, and
Speaker 1: in some instances as graphically as I so that we
Speaker 1: can get inside of the trauma that black people confront
Speaker 1: and those outside of it so they can understand what
Speaker 1: we're up again, so we get to a point now
Speaker 1: where it's like that is it doesn't stop. The young
Speaker 1: man Casey Goodson died. We just had his mom on air,
Speaker 1: and it's like, when does it stop? They keep doing
Speaker 1: the same thing over and over and over and over
Speaker 1: and over again. It's a great point. And when you're
Speaker 1: parallel what you just said with the video that came
Speaker 1: out at the same time of the white guy getting
Speaker 1: stopped by the police. He has a gun in the
Speaker 1: seat next to him. The police withdraw their revolvers and
Speaker 1: pistols from their hosters and point at the young man.
Speaker 1: He's arguing with them, I have a Second Amendment right,
Speaker 1: I have a right there a gun. What you're doing
Speaker 1: is wrong. You can't have me step out of the car.
Speaker 1: He's arguing, vigorously, aggressively back and forth with them. They
Speaker 1: tell him to get out. Several times he refuses to
Speaker 1: do so, he says he will not, and as a
Speaker 1: result of that, they go back and for three minutes,
Speaker 1: and at the end of it he says, I'm driving
Speaker 1: off right now and pulls off. This is the astonishing
Speaker 1: parallel to black people like Jacob Blake walking around your
Speaker 1: car and when you open the door and they see
Speaker 1: a knife, they commenced to shooting. Not because you've withdrawn
Speaker 1: that knife from your car and tried to hurt them,
Speaker 1: not because you've threatened them. And by the way, the
Speaker 1: white guy threatened them twice to shoot them. He threatened
Speaker 1: them to their face. So that parallel is assignishing. No,
Speaker 1: it will never stop unless we do something about it.
Speaker 1: Maybe we could defund the police, my lord, Maybe we
Speaker 1: could have a radical reimagining of the police. Now, look,
Speaker 1: I know we're going to get into the Obama quote.
Speaker 1: Let me introduce it myself. I'm hosting myself today. Might
Speaker 1: as well do it right, Yeah, I'm Charlemagne. The lights
Speaker 1: can The thing is for those who have been hurt
Speaker 1: and in pain, and for the question you asked me
Speaker 1: when it's going to stop. Imagine that behind the attempt
Speaker 1: to reimagine policing. All right, So reimagining policing means the
Speaker 1: police don't have a run or a copyright on public safety.
Speaker 1: Public safety is an obligation. Policing is one department that
Speaker 1: does it. We can remove that department or decenter it
Speaker 1: if we deserve decenter policing. That means other departments take
Speaker 1: care of responsibilities for public safety. Do you know ninety
Speaker 1: percent of what police do ain't about stopping people and
Speaker 1: shooting people and doing that kind of stuff, or engaged
Speaker 1: in warfare with human beings who are citizens on the streets.
Speaker 1: They're getting cats from trees and doing innocua stuff. The
Speaker 1: problem is even when they do it innocua stuff with
Speaker 1: black folk. Oh, Walter Scott, let me stop you in
Speaker 1: South Carolina because your left turn signal doesn't work. And
Speaker 1: then a little while later he's being shot seven times
Speaker 1: in the back by policemen right the officers later. I think.
Speaker 1: So even the innocuous, the every day, the non offensive
Speaker 1: stuff that other people can take forgot, Oh thanks officer,
Speaker 1: thanks for stopping me and thanks for giving me a warning,
Speaker 1: ends up with death with black people. So this is
Speaker 1: the desperation behind reimagining policing, reimagining what police people can do.
Speaker 1: So if we decenter them, and because you know, these
Speaker 1: police unions are powerful out of all proportion to their
Speaker 1: numbers in the population right there in New York City.
Speaker 1: They are racially charged, they are racially insensitive. They don't
Speaker 1: want anybody reforming them. We have tried reform for how
Speaker 1: many years? How many decades have we tried to reform
Speaker 1: the police. Let's make sure that community policing works. Let's
Speaker 1: put community Let's put police people in the community that
Speaker 1: they're policing. So if you're coming in from Delaware and
Speaker 1: you go into Baltimore and you deal with a guy
Speaker 1: named Freddy Gray, you don't think of him. Hey, that's
Speaker 1: my uncle, that's my cousin, that's my brother, that's my father.
Speaker 1: It's a kin folk. And therefore, when he gets louder,
Speaker 1: he gets the tuper dooper, he gets offensive, or he
Speaker 1: gets pugnacious. I can deal with it because that's the
Speaker 1: kind of cat I already know. I know how to
Speaker 1: deal with him. That's my home people. So we tried that.
Speaker 1: That didn't work. We still get killed, we still get shot,
Speaker 1: hands up, we get shot, hands down, we get shot yes, sir,
Speaker 1: we get shot. No, sir, we get shot. George Floyd
Speaker 1: lying on the ground with ultimate respect, officer, Please officer.
Speaker 1: He doesn't say hey, dude, he doesn't say gift your
Speaker 1: m F. He doesn't curse. He treats with ultimate respect
Speaker 1: the person who is immediately responsible for his death. Just
Speaker 1: same thing. And mine just said, hey, you're good people.
Speaker 1: You are very good people. I understand why you're doing
Speaker 1: what you do, but please stop. I wouldn't even hurt
Speaker 1: a fly. I don't even eat meat. Look at the
Speaker 1: respectability politics that have to be deployed to try to
Speaker 1: convince white people that I am a human being worthy
Speaker 1: of respect. We have tried everything. So what I would
Speaker 1: say respectfully to our former president lovingly to him, sir,
Speaker 1: don't be more upset with people who use a term
Speaker 1: that you think puts them in jeopardy of not getting
Speaker 1: the goal they seek. Then you are outraged at the
Speaker 1: hurting pain that caused them to search for a word
Speaker 1: to begin with. Hi, we got more with Michael Eric
Speaker 1: Dyson when we come back, don't move. It's to breakfast club.
Speaker 1: Good morning morning, everybody, to Envy Angela Yee, Charlomagne, the
Speaker 1: God we are to Breakfast Club. We're still kicking with
Speaker 1: Michael Eric Dyson. The right before we left, we were
Speaker 1: getting into Barack Obama saying to fund the police. Now,
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts now? Obama is looking at it
Speaker 1: from the perspective of those in power and those who
Speaker 1: are politicians. Please please understand that Pharaoh has a different
Speaker 1: agenda than the people of Israel. That's right right now,
Speaker 1: And I'm not just in Obama. I'm saying pharaoh in
Speaker 1: terms of a job description. He runs the joint He
Speaker 1: is the president of the United States of America. He
Speaker 1: is in political power. He is different than those who
Speaker 1: are on the ground asking for requiring and demand Pharaoh,
Speaker 1: let my people go. The problem is for us is
Speaker 1: that Pharaoh is one of us. That's beautiful. For many
Speaker 1: of us. We want it Pharaoh to be us. I
Speaker 1: vote it twice for Obama to quote be Pharaoh. But
Speaker 1: the problem is when we don't take into account he
Speaker 1: is seeing it from their perspective. And I don't mind that.
Speaker 1: His point is, let me give you some advice here.
Speaker 1: If you're trying to get over this ain't the way
Speaker 1: to do it for those who are in power. But
Speaker 1: those are on the street as saying, we've done it
Speaker 1: your way already. And let's be real. If Colin Kaepernick
Speaker 1: had not called it a protest but called it a
Speaker 1: vigorous disagreement with the status quote, would it have made
Speaker 1: any difference? Is it really what the name is? Is
Speaker 1: it really the name you use, Is it really the
Speaker 1: description you give? Or is it the fact that you
Speaker 1: are black and challenging the status quo? If black people
Speaker 1: had not called it defunding the police, would it be
Speaker 1: more acceptable acceptable? Perhaps? Look, I'm a leftist, I'm a progressive.
Speaker 1: I believe in being introspective and self critical. So I
Speaker 1: don't want to automatically be mad at Barack Obama for saying,
Speaker 1: do you want the commercial or do you want the product?
Speaker 1: The commercial says, Hey, I'm down with it. I'm defunding
Speaker 1: the police. The product is we actually get to dismantle
Speaker 1: the harmful structures and the systemic inequities that prevail. I
Speaker 1: stand in solidarity with those who want to defund the police.
Speaker 1: If you can charge them for being unfelicitists or infelicitists
Speaker 1: by using a word that is problematic, their lives are
Speaker 1: problematic to the dominant sets quote their lives are problematic
Speaker 1: to anybody in power who sees a threat to the
Speaker 1: police as dangerous to American society, allow our lives being
Speaker 1: lost to be just as dangerous. So are you going
Speaker 1: to be outraged at the horrors that exist? Or are
Speaker 1: you going to be outraged at the people who are
Speaker 1: outraged by the horrors that they confront And I think
Speaker 1: it is progress in America, in Black America, when Barack
Speaker 1: Obama can be even gently criticized, I agree, right in office,
Speaker 1: that won't go happen. You hater, If you criticize Obama,
Speaker 1: you are personna non black, You are a person right.
Speaker 1: But now a little bit, Charles Blow New York Times,
Speaker 1: you have a curious post presidency. You are scolding young
Speaker 1: black people, and so I think it's legitimate and healthy.
Speaker 1: We can't be met at white people for uncritically celebrating
Speaker 1: Donald Trump and then say we turn around if we
Speaker 1: have any criticism at all of Barack Obama, we are
Speaker 1: somehow read out of the race. Now at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, can we embrace both perspectives? Can we
Speaker 1: be progressive and say, look, I don't give a dark
Speaker 1: what you call it. I want the police to be
Speaker 1: challenged because they are murdering, killing, harming, hurting, tazing, beatoning,
Speaker 1: and shooting black people at will. What is wronger using
Speaker 1: the worst defunding the police, or the police who need
Speaker 1: to be defunded, or those who need to be redirected.
Speaker 1: Of course the police are worse. On the other hand,
Speaker 1: I think that the left has to be open and
Speaker 1: not thin skin, and we must say, hey, you know what,
Speaker 1: even if this dude is not on our side, even
Speaker 1: if we think what he's doing is centrist and deferential
Speaker 1: to the status quo, and we ain't trying to reform
Speaker 1: the police. We're trying to deconstruct them and take them
Speaker 1: apart because they have hurt and harmed us. Even if
Speaker 1: you want to do that, it's all right. If you
Speaker 1: choose a different route that might be a bit more savvy,
Speaker 1: that might appeal to those who you can, if you
Speaker 1: will recruit on your side to do your bidding with
Speaker 1: you and alongside you. I've only seen both of them.
Speaker 1: I've only seen one centrist establishment Democrat mainstream who has
Speaker 1: send it at Harris soon to be MVP Harris. She's
Speaker 1: the only president I saw answer to the funded police
Speaker 1: question correctly. Because She didn't even focus on the statement.
Speaker 1: She talked about the why. She talked about what needed
Speaker 1: to why that needed to happen. And then when Megan
Speaker 1: McCain came back and goes, well, I agree with you,
Speaker 1: would you believe in the funding the police? And she
Speaker 1: flipped the back of her and said, defined the funding
Speaker 1: the police. Right, That's why I wish Baracco would it did, like,
Speaker 1: just focus on the why. You know what the why is?
Speaker 1: You know why these kids are screaming that. But see
Speaker 1: that's the point. You say, he knows why, but he
Speaker 1: hasn't said so. You you give him the benefit of
Speaker 1: the cloud, all right, And the thing is he ain't
Speaker 1: really said so. Now, when you look at his whole interview,
Speaker 1: he was far more nuanced. I wish he would have said, Look,
Speaker 1: given the black people are being mowed down, let me
Speaker 1: let me be Baracco, let me let me channel Barack Obama,
Speaker 1: not his anger translator, but his nomenclature. Let me let
Speaker 1: me set you up, President Obama. What do you think
Speaker 1: of the slogan to fund the police? Well, you know, um, charlotmate,
Speaker 1: The thing is that we're living in a vicious society
Speaker 1: where black life is seen as not worth much. When
Speaker 1: we turn around. Every day we see black people going down,
Speaker 1: hands up, they get shot, hands down, They get shot
Speaker 1: no matter what they do. So the question is not
Speaker 1: where we defund the police. We tend to defund schools.
Speaker 1: Nobody has a problem. We defund social services for poor people,
Speaker 1: nobody has a problem. So why is it, I said
Speaker 1: to myself, Barack, why is it that they have a
Speaker 1: problem with defund the police. Because it's getting to the
Speaker 1: nerve center of American power. And so I would not
Speaker 1: dare using my bully pulpit and the enormous leverage I had.
Speaker 1: I sold nine hundred thousand books the first day. Take that,
Speaker 1: Mike Dyson. Here, I am for the president of the
Speaker 1: United States of America. I'm not going to use my
Speaker 1: leverage to hurt the people who even if I disagreed
Speaker 1: with the term they use, I agreed with the hurt
Speaker 1: and pain being expressed. So inevitably, if I say something
Speaker 1: critical about the terms they use, I'm going to be
Speaker 1: crew did as being in opposition to them. And if
Speaker 1: you look at all the headlines, that's all they're gonna say.
Speaker 1: Obama criticizes. So I'm going to be wise and say
Speaker 1: to you, Charlomagne, the God, DJ Envy and Angela Yee,
Speaker 1: that I defer that question to a bigger one. What
Speaker 1: can we do to stop black people from routine? We
Speaker 1: dye the streets of America. Don't run red with the
Speaker 1: blood of black people now because the people feel that
Speaker 1: you don't You didn't do anything for black people while
Speaker 1: you're in office. What do you say to that. I
Speaker 1: gotta go now, all right, we got more with Michael
Speaker 1: Eric Dyson when we come back, don't move. It's the
Speaker 1: Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club back, It's the
Speaker 1: Breakfast Club, DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne, the guy. We
Speaker 1: have Michael Eric Dyson in the building. I thought about
Speaker 1: this the other day. I feel like white politicians are
Speaker 1: scared of the Fund the police because when they the
Speaker 1: fund programs, when they are actually doing is abolishing them.
Speaker 1: So I think when they hear that, when they hear that,
Speaker 1: they're like, we're not getting rid of police because that's
Speaker 1: what they do when they the fund. And look, I
Speaker 1: know the left will get upset, but we got to
Speaker 1: be self critical. You got to learn how to play
Speaker 1: the game, because don't act like you ain't in it.
Speaker 1: Don't act like you're progressive and radical and therefore you
Speaker 1: outside the parameters of real politics. That you got to
Speaker 1: get down to the nitty gritty and understand how am
Speaker 1: I going to be successful in the job I have.
Speaker 1: Just because you're progressive and you should be, just because
Speaker 1: your radical and you should be, just because your revolutionary
Speaker 1: and you should be, doesn't mean you don't have to
Speaker 1: think about packaging, messaging, how you articulated. And to that degree,
Speaker 1: I completely understand how we who want to challenge the
Speaker 1: policing of America must take that into account. And what
Speaker 1: YouTube just brilliantly laid out right because we know the
Speaker 1: fear of white people is black people are gonna treat
Speaker 1: us like we treated them when they get in power.
Speaker 1: That's why they're trying to keep us out of power,
Speaker 1: because they figured they'll do to us Jimminy cricket what
Speaker 1: we did to them, and that's not a good thing.
Speaker 1: But we ain't like that. Here's the kind of people
Speaker 1: we are, South Carolina Emmanuel Church. Nine people get murdered
Speaker 1: before the bodies are cold, we forgive you. That's who
Speaker 1: we are. So when we say defund the police, we
Speaker 1: actually mean that. We mean take one hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: billion dollars like they did in La, move it to
Speaker 1: another part of the ledger. That's what defunding means. Move
Speaker 1: money into other arenas where it deserves to be had
Speaker 1: and directed, so that policing in America, so that public
Speaker 1: safety in America will be something that is far more
Speaker 1: virtuous than vicious. And what we want. We want what
Speaker 1: the police did with that way. Boy, when even when
Speaker 1: we wrong and got a gun by our side and
Speaker 1: talking cash money trash to the police or to the
Speaker 1: public servant of public safety, our lives are protected because
Speaker 1: we are seeing as human beings. So I'm down with that.
Speaker 1: I want to ask you a couple more questions before
Speaker 1: you get out of here about the book, in particular
Speaker 1: A long time coming reckoning with race in America. I
Speaker 1: feel like colors was a team a theme throughout this book.
Speaker 1: Black Deaf, Blue, plague, white theft, Seeing Red, White comfort,
Speaker 1: evergreen hope. Well, what's the science and the colors? You
Speaker 1: are literally the first person who was asked me that question,
Speaker 1: and that was my intent. Frohm to get go. I can't,
Speaker 1: I can't get you no war. I'm gonna get you
Speaker 1: an extra book. I'm gonna get extra I'm gonna let
Speaker 1: you interview me again, just because you saying that. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's exactly what I was about. I'm about the color
Speaker 1: coded misery that black people deal. Gold orb is the
Speaker 1: Elijah McClane chapter, because his co worker said it was
Speaker 1: like a gold orb around him every time time he
Speaker 1: came in. Black death, black people dying, right, blue plague,
Speaker 1: the police of assaulting us. White colonization, that's right, white
Speaker 1: white colonization, White white comfort, and the colonizing of black imaginations.
Speaker 1: The appropriation of black futures and black death is the
Speaker 1: ultimate form of appropriation of black identity, the appropriation literally
Speaker 1: of the black body, the evergreen hope of Reverend Clemente. Pinkney,
Speaker 1: of the white comfort that Sandra Bland disturbed. So yes,
Speaker 1: I wanted to proll the coloring of America, the color
Speaker 1: coding of America, the obsession with color. The obsession was raised,
Speaker 1: and I wanted to turn it inside out and talk
Speaker 1: about how it's redounded negatively and played in such destructive
Speaker 1: fashion within Black America. And that was quite intentional. Thank
Speaker 1: you for picking that up, my friend. That's a great
Speaker 1: note to end on. Then yes, I want everybody to
Speaker 1: go get a long time coming in or reckoning with
Speaker 1: racing America. Michael Eric Dyson does not waste words. That's
Speaker 1: why he don't write blogs. He writes books. There you go.
Speaker 1: But you know what your brother, I write books like
Speaker 1: write hooks. That's what I do. That's right, number twenty three.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to drop him like I'm free. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to be like dj n V. But really I'm trying
Speaker 1: to be Charlotte Maidan to God. I got it in
Speaker 1: the carg of machinery. I do my thing. I see it,
Speaker 1: I believe it. I want you to conceive it and
Speaker 1: receive it by that book. Help me out with my kids.
Speaker 1: I got to put them through college. Okay, they're already out,
Speaker 1: but I need to do something straight on anywhere, anywhere, anyway. Doctor.
Speaker 1: Until the next time, my brother, Thank you, Thank y'all.
Speaker 1: So Barry, Carolyn Peace King morning. Everybody is dj Envy
Speaker 1: Angela Yee, Charlomae Nica. We are to breakfast club now. Charlomagne,
Speaker 1: you got a positive note I do, man. I want
Speaker 1: you to say to yourself today, I am in charge
Speaker 1: of how I feel, and today I am choosing happiness.
Speaker 1: And I want everybody this morning to just do a
Speaker 1: little small all note to self, Okay, a little small
Speaker 1: note to self, and remember that sometimes all it takes
Speaker 1: is one small positive thought in the morning to set
Speaker 1: the tone and improve your whole day. Blessings to you,
Speaker 1: Breakfast Club. This is You'll finish or y'all dumb.