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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Ozone Podcast presented by by Star Credit

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Speaker 1: Union with Jaguars senior writer John Osan. All Right, welcome

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Speaker 1: into this week's Ozone Podcast presented by by Star and

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Speaker 1: this week's guests. I guess I'm excited about it. Uh.

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Speaker 1: It's it's somebody who's been working with Jaguars dot Com

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Speaker 1: for a long time. UH predates me by a long shot,

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Speaker 1: because my predecessor, Vick Catchman, talked to Tony Pauline now

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Speaker 1: the Pro Football Network long before I arrived. UH. Tony

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Speaker 1: is contributed UH to our draft coverage in the past.

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Speaker 1: We talked to the Senior Bowl a while back. We've

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Speaker 1: talked to him a lot of different years. UH. Without

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Speaker 1: further ado, Tony, First of all, how are you today,

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Speaker 1: I'm okay, good to be back with you. It's also

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Speaker 1: nice to hear the name of Vick Catchman again. I

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Speaker 1: hear them Vick once Stever, we bluemoll And when he

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Speaker 1: wants some draft information for his bot. I'm sure I'll

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Speaker 1: be getting the text from Bick real soon. That's a

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Speaker 1: blast from the past. That's uh. And you've been doing

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Speaker 1: the draft you told me before we came on. Since

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Speaker 1: it's almost two and a half decades, Tony, does that

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Speaker 1: mean we're old? You and I? I guess, And that's unofficially.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's when my first publication came out. I

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Speaker 1: New York area who covered the Jets on draft related

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Speaker 1: information since probably nineteen eighty nine, because they knew, you know,

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Speaker 1: I was interested in the draft and they were always

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Speaker 1: bringing me up during the days where when there was

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Speaker 1: forget about old. I guess I'm ancient at this point

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Speaker 1: in time, no Internet, Tony, What are you talking about?

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Speaker 1: Exactly exactly? I started currently pre that too, and it's

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Speaker 1: a it's a long time ago. Well from your perspective, Tony,

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Speaker 1: tell me about this draft. We'll get into Trevor Lawrence,

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Speaker 1: We'll get into a lot of Jaguars related topics. But

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Speaker 1: the strength of this draft. Just assess it overall. If

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Speaker 1: you're telling somebody who's just coming into it, how strong

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Speaker 1: the classes, the traits of it. Give me your nutgraph,

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Speaker 1: if you will. In the draft. One word offense. It

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Speaker 1: is an offense heavy draft. You look at the top ten,

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Speaker 1: it's probably not. You'll have at least nine players from

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Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball selected in the first round.

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Speaker 1: You look at the first round overall, I mean you

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Speaker 1: may have two thirds of it the offensive players. Uh

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Speaker 1: So it's really an offensive driven class. When you break

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Speaker 1: it down further, you're looking at wide receiver, you're looking

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Speaker 1: this draft. So if you need any of those positions,

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Speaker 1: you're looking for some offensive players. This is the year

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Speaker 1: to have a lot of picks. I'm glad you mentioned

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Speaker 1: that because it was a question I had for you deeper. Um,

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Speaker 1: the offensive end. Is it described as a trend? Is

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Speaker 1: offense heavy now. I don't think it's a trend. I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's the result of what happens in college football,

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Speaker 1: And what happens in college football is you know, you

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Speaker 1: get speedier players, you get more athletic offensive lineman, and

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Speaker 1: then you know, it just matriculates upwards into the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I think that it's just right now. I don't think

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Speaker 1: offensive heavy. Remember, defensive players are after quarterback are highly

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Speaker 1: defensive front seven players, the pass rushers, very just a

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Speaker 1: Because of the way high school and college is set up.

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Speaker 1: Every kid wants to play wide receiver. They're teaching them better.

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Speaker 1: I'll ask you to go out on a lamb here

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Speaker 1: That's a difficult one, huh. I mean the Jags are

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Speaker 1: you know we've talked Trevor to death obviously for the

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Speaker 1: as I predicted in January, what you're what you're gonna

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Speaker 1: Now you're hearing Kyle Pitts is the best player in

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Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts is a very good player. He's a great prospect.

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Speaker 1: He's a sensational athlete. But Trevor Lawrence is still heading

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence stepped to the forefront and said let us play.

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Speaker 1: And what Trevor Lawrence did was he elevated that program.

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Speaker 1: Is this uh? I saw in your notes this weekend

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