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Speaker 1: Welcome to this Tuesday edition of the From the Podium podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm Gabe Kolura. The Browns are off today, able they'll

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Speaker 1: be back in the Cross Country Mortgage Campus tomorrow as

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Speaker 1: they begin preparations for week sixteen's showdown with the raigning

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Speaker 1: MVP Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills. On this episode,

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Speaker 1: you'll hear from head coach Kevin Stefanski, tight end Harold

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Speaker 1: fannin junior, and linebacker Mahmoud dia Bat. We'll start with

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Speaker 1: head coach Kevin Stefanski. You gave an injury update following

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Speaker 1: Week fifteen's game in Chicago against the Bears.

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Speaker 2: Okay, injury friend, really only updaten is Tevin Jenkins is

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Speaker 2: day to day with that shoulder injury. So we'll see

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Speaker 2: how he responds to the next forty eight hours or

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Speaker 2: so as we get ready for the week. And obviously

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Speaker 2: that ballgame is disappointing to start that way. You're down

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Speaker 2: fourteen to nothing in the first quarter and then trying

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Speaker 2: to dig out of that hole, and that's hard to

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Speaker 2: do on the road versus a good football team. So

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Speaker 2: we came up short. We got to own that and

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Speaker 2: watch the tape and look at it and learn from

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Speaker 2: it and you know, find a way to correct some

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Speaker 2: of those things that happened early in the game, so

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Speaker 2: you can be in that game and give yourself a

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Speaker 2: chance to win that game. So that's our focus. But

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Speaker 2: I'll take any questions you guys got.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Kevin, after watching the film, what were your impressions

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Speaker 3: of Shoulder probably played?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously some good throws down the field, made some

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Speaker 2: explosive plays. There's definitely plays that he wants back, that

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Speaker 2: he can be better, whether it's a decision or a

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Speaker 4: But I thought he.

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Speaker 2: Fought till the end and has the right attitude. That'll

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Speaker 2: he'll just keep learning from all of these experiences.

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Speaker 3: In those two interceptions, not the one to Jerry, the

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Speaker 3: other two, what did you see on those? Was the

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Speaker 3: first one a good play by the defense? Or should

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Speaker 3: he see the guy dropping there?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's always I think you learn from all those

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Speaker 2: Scott and at times you tip your cap to the

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Speaker 2: defense and you say they made a play, And other

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Speaker 2: times you talk to the quarterback, Hey, you're could be footwork,

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Speaker 2: could be who you're keying, could be decision, all those things.

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Speaker 2: So I do think you have to give them credit

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Speaker 2: and say that they're making plays. But I think how

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Speaker 2: you how we coach our guys is, hey, next time

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Speaker 2: we did it, here's some things that we would do differently,

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Speaker 2: But obviously that's that's going against a good defense that

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Speaker 4: You know, you got to give them credit as well.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Kevin, after you know, after a sort of a

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Speaker 5: blowout loss like that, and where you guys stand with

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Speaker 5: everything right now, have you been given any assurances by

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Speaker 5: management that you know that your job has saved, has

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Speaker 5: is safe or anything like that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't get into those type of things, Mary Kay.

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Speaker 2: I would just tell you my focus, our football team's

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Speaker 2: focus is solely on the Buffalo Bills and obviously watching

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Speaker 2: the tape today that that's our focus.

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Speaker 4: But that's all we really care about.

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Speaker 5: So you haven't asked for for anything like that, for

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Speaker 5: you know, any kind of a vote of confidence that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not going to get in those type of things,

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Speaker 2: Mary Kay. Not my focus, Yevin.

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Speaker 6: I wanted to ask for a clarification on what happened

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Speaker 6: with Shador's wristband yesterday after after you went up a quodium.

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Speaker 6: He said that a card fell out, but the sideline

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Speaker 6: reporter for Fox said that their cards were being swapped out.

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Speaker 6: Like you kind of just provide some clarity. It seems

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Speaker 6: like two different answers from you guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what happened was the obviously had the wristband.

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Speaker 4: It was good on the first drive.

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Speaker 2: At some point after the first drive, one of the

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Speaker 2: cards must have fallen out of Shaudor's wristband. So when

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Speaker 2: have to be prepared for those type of things. You

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Speaker 2: You have to have those automatics that you have to

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Speaker 2: get to if the headset goes out. And similarly, while

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Speaker 6: And that's the reason why he had to kind of

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Speaker 4: Right, that's right exactly. So just I was giving them

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Speaker 2: But like I said, the head the coach of quarterback

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Speaker 2: that way until fifteen seconds.

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Speaker 7: Kevin, with all the injuries you have on your offensive line,

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Speaker 7: I don't know if any of those guys.

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Speaker 4: Will be back.

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Speaker 7: But how do you prepare a game plan knowing that

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Speaker 7: your line is not what you hoped it would be.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't look at it necessarily that way, Jeff.

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Speaker 2: We just the guys who are available come Sunday, we

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Speaker 2: go to battle with them, and we work really hard

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Speaker 2: during the week to make sure we have contingency plans

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Speaker 2: and guys are ready to go. Backups stay ready, and

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Speaker 2: that's that's what we do.

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Speaker 7: Well, then how does that affect your run blocking it

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Speaker 7: yesterday in particular?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would just tell you anybody who's in there,

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Speaker 2: we trust them to get their jobs done, and we

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Speaker 2: as coaches are always thinking about ways that we can

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Speaker 8: Kevin, kind of off of that, similar with the offensive

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Speaker 8: line in particular, the injuries that you have, how does

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Speaker 8: that maybe change the way that you are able to

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Speaker 8: evaluate different positions outside of just the offensive line. I

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Speaker 8: know that these are things that come with the game,

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Speaker 8: but when you're trying to evaluate the production level of

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Speaker 8: navigate that with maybe a line that's not full of

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Speaker 8: starters that you typically would have.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think again, for us, cam is the guys that

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Speaker 2: game that's in front of us. We're worried about getting

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Speaker 2: production in the next ballgame, not so worried about evaluation,

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Speaker 2: quote unquote. We're just trying to make sure that we

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Speaker 2: give our guys a chance in every one of these

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Speaker 8: And then when you're looking for that production for that

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Speaker 8: next week, when you have games where Judy doesn't come

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Speaker 8: down to that ball, obviously want him to hold himself accountable,

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Speaker 8: want to hold him acountable. What does that look like

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Speaker 8: for things that happen on the football field.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think our players understand this game. It's a

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Speaker 2: sixty minute game, and there's plays in every game that

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Speaker 2: you're going to want back from a coaching perspective, from

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Speaker 2: a playing perspective, all we ask and what our guys

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Speaker 2: give is everything they got. Not to say that we're

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Speaker 2: going to be perfect, but we'll just keep fighting when

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Speaker 6: I also wanted to ask about the pressure rate and

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Speaker 6: Chard's four stars. I think it's at forty three percent,

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Speaker 6: which is, you know, top two in the NFL. Obviously,

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Speaker 6: like the offensive line has gone through a lot of changes,

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Speaker 6: how much is falling on the offensive line, how much

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Speaker 6: is it guys not you know, separating early enough, how

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Speaker 6: much is it shud holding onto the ball? Like, what

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Speaker 6: are you seeing that's resulting in the highest pressure rate

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Speaker 2: Yeah, again, I think it goes back to each one

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Speaker 2: different and how they're playing the game, how they deploy fronts,

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Speaker 2: how they deploy coverages, if you will. So we're focused

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Speaker 4: Go find a way to score points.

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Speaker 2: And there's gonna be varying factors to each one of

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Speaker 2: those games, whether it's the opponent, whether it's guys that

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Speaker 6: So there hasn't been like a commonality or a common

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Speaker 6: link that you've seen in sure as four starts that

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Speaker 6: can you know that that you kind of focus on

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Speaker 6: in terms of, you know, limiting the pressure rates.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously, our our focus for our passing game, uh

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Speaker 4: The ball out on time.

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Speaker 2: There's various ways and various play types to get into

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Kevin just wondering with Bill Musgrave talking to us

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Speaker 5: like that. As you guys move closer through that twenty

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Speaker 5: put him on the fifty three man roster anytime soon?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I would say not my focus, Mary Kay for right now,

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Speaker 2: I'm very very pleased with the progress that Deshaun's making

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Speaker 2: good job.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Kevin, do you expect any of the guys that

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Speaker 3: didn't play Sunday due to injuries to be able to

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Speaker 2: I'm hopeful on some of these guys, Scott, but not

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Speaker 2: entirely sure yet. I think we got to get through

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Speaker 2: the next couple of days, see how everybody's responding to

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Speaker 2: some of the rehab that we're doing, and I'll have

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Speaker 2: a better answer for you on Wednesday, Okay.

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Speaker 3: And then with the run game, it hasn't been consistent,

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Speaker 3: drought to your Writer's been good day weeks and bad weeks.

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Speaker 3: One of the bad ones is yesterday. Have you been

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Speaker 3: able to identify just why it hasn't had the consistency

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Speaker 3: I'm sure you're looking for.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I wish it was one thing and

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Speaker 2: you could fix one thing, but we just in order

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Speaker 2: to have success via the air or the ground, you

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Speaker 2: have to, you know, you have to be really sound

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Speaker 2: and everything you're doing, and that's on us as coaches.

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Speaker 2: Give these guys a plan that they can go execute,

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Speaker 2: and then obviously, you know you want to give your guys,

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Speaker 2: put them in advantageous positions. Sometimes you're going to go

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Speaker 2: up against good defenses and that type of thing, But

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Speaker 2: that is definitely a focus for us, is finding a

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Speaker 2: way to be efficient and explosive on the ground.

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Speaker 7: Kevin, what are the challenges for you as a head

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Speaker 7: coach to keep your players playing hard in a season

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Speaker 7: when you guys are now.

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Speaker 4: Three and eleven.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously we know what our record is. We understand

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Speaker 2: that we don't hide from that. You own it, But

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Speaker 2: we also know how important this game is to us

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Speaker 2: and the work that has to go into it each

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Speaker 2: week and what we pour into it each week. The

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Speaker 2: payoff is going out there on Sunday and playing and coaching,

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Speaker 2: So we get where. We are not going to hide

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Speaker 6: Hey, Evan, Like when you when you look at these

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Speaker 4: Run, decision making, you name it.

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Speaker 2: So we're working very hard, certainly to get everybody in

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Speaker 10: And why is it?

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Speaker 2: learn from those. So that's no different for any position,

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Speaker 2: no different for Shador versus any other player. There's going

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Speaker 2: there's many plays you want back, you know, great play.

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Speaker 1: Up next is Brown's receptions leader, Harold Fannin Junior.

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Speaker 11: Hey, Harold, I guess first, just another start with shador.

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Speaker 11: I know you were his favorite target yesterday, got you

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Speaker 9: Uh, you know, I feel like, you know, he'd done

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Speaker 12: Obviously, some stuff we want to clean up, you know,

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Speaker 12: some stuff that I still got to do to get better,

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Speaker 11: What are some of those things that you think you

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Speaker 9: Uh, just kind of watch them back on the tape.

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Speaker 12: Just being more decisive for my routes, you know, setting

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Harold, Just wondering when when you're getting so many

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Speaker 5: it does it make it maybe a little bit harder

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Speaker 5: you know, maybe a ball is more likely to get

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Speaker 5: if so, you know, what do you think that you

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Speaker 5: I'm just wondering, since you got so many targets, fourteen targets,

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Speaker 5: then you're going to be more likely to you know,

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Speaker 9: Say, I don't know, I mean, I really don't know.

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Speaker 12: I mean, I just do what I'm told to do,

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Speaker 9: You know, that's all I can control.

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Speaker 5: In a perfect world. Would do you think it would

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Speaker 5: help everyone if you guys maybe could spread it out

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Speaker 10: Are your thoughts on that?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, so, like, of course we try to spread the

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Speaker 12: You know, it just happened to be a game for

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Speaker 3: Hey, Harold, And those two interceptions that were thrown in

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Speaker 3: your direction? What did the Bears do there? Did they

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Speaker 9: Oh? Maybe a little.

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Speaker 12: I feel like they just it was just two really

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Speaker 12: good plays on their ends, you know, Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 12: that's all I can really say. There was just good

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Speaker 11: Yeah, Harold. Just wondering when David Nijoku's not out there, Like,

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Speaker 11: what's your mentality then? Does it change at all when

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Speaker 9: Nah?

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Speaker 12: I mean, I mean I'm gonna go out there every game,

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 12: Obviously, you know we don't want David out there because

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Speaker 8: Hey, Harold, how have you have you seen this team

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Speaker 8: How is this team as a whole responded throughout this process?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 12: I feel like it brought us closer, you know, in

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Speaker 12: you know, they still playing their hearts out, you know,

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Speaker 8: And for you, I've asked a couple of guys, I mean,

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Speaker 8: But you personally, what are the things that you were

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Speaker 8: some are just the development. What is it for you?

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Speaker 12: I guess the same thing really, you know, just playing

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 5: So just wondering Harold with you guys, knowing that Chadors

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 12: I mean I think he'll bounce back pretty fine. Got

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Speaker 12: I said, like, I know, to work, these guys can

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Speaker 9: You know, yeah, Hey.

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Speaker 3: Hal after the game, should talked about it, and then

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Speaker 3: Kevin did just a little bit ago the issue with

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Speaker 12: I mean, be honest, I didn't know. I mean he

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Speaker 12: I wouldn't I'll say he didn't look confused at all.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, that was kind of my along the lines of

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Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, I mean got the personnel, you know, it

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Speaker 1: Finally, linebacker Mamod Diabat spoke on the run defense.

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Speaker 8: Miles after the game, said that obviously you guys wanted

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Speaker 8: kind of the downfall of what happened defensively. Did you

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Speaker 9: I don't really understand your question. Can you kind of

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Speaker 8: Miles said after the game that one of the things

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Speaker 8: Do you feel like there was a concerted effort or

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I feel like, you know, in the game of football,

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Speaker 8: And then for you in that regard, what what were

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Speaker 10: I mean, stopping run is just really about physicality, coming

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Speaker 9: We just have to get back to that recipe.

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Speaker 3: In the mood special teams. Why do you think the

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Speaker 3: return giving up returns has still been an issue? It

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Speaker 10: I think, you know, people are in position to make

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Speaker 10: you unded up getting off of blocks and finishing the

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Speaker 10: ball carrier when we're down, when we're around the around

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Speaker 10: the ball carrier. You know, it's a simple, it's not

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Speaker 10: too complicated of a play. You know, shed the block

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Speaker 3: You know, why do you think it's been a recurring

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Speaker 10: I think we just have to take end of as

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Speaker 3: Him football, gotcha and I got one more with Miles

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Speaker 3: getting so close to that sack record. You've been with

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Speaker 3: him for a couple of years now. Was there a

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Speaker 3: wild moment you had you got I'm sure you have

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Speaker 3: a lot of pick from, but is there something that

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Speaker 3: jumps out and said, oh my God, this is why

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Speaker 3: Miles is as great as he is.

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Speaker 10: I mean, Miles is just you know, he's incredibly consistent.

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Speaker 10: He's obviously been immensely blessed with natural abilities, and uh,

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Speaker 10: he's tribes and he works hard at his craft every

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Speaker 10: single day. And it's it's kind of a no brainer

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Speaker 10: why he can produce the way he's he can produce.

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Speaker 10: I mean, since I came in here three years ago,

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Speaker 10: I thought he would break the sad record then and

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Speaker 10: obviously now he's having that type of season. And that's

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Speaker 10: the type of player he is. He's he's, you know,

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Speaker 10: a Mount Rushmore type of player, greatest of all time,

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Speaker 10: tope of player. So I've been blessed to see sit

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Speaker 10: back and watch him work and learn from him and

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Speaker 10: and and experience and be part of the experience too.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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