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Speaker 1: This one Bill's Live, presented by Calida Health.

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Speaker 2: All right, here we are on a Thursday, last day

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Speaker 2: of ot as no Steve Tasker with you. We're in

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Speaker 2: a full lather because we had a lot of content

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Speaker 2: that we had to put together and produce earlier this morning.

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Speaker 2: So we feel like we're kind of in like the

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Speaker 2: seventh inning already.

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Speaker 1: Here backbreaking word, Oh my gosh, we gotta sit down

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Speaker 1: in these chairs and talk. Just put a yoke around

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Speaker 1: our neck. You'd have as haul.

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Speaker 2: The team of as down the path dragging led go.

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Speaker 1: We're doing good. This is gonna be awesome, awesome, happy

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Speaker 1: to be back, happy to be here, weather's turning. Yeah, yes,

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Speaker 1: it's all it's all good. It's all good.

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Speaker 2: So uh, as we said, OTA's come to a close

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Speaker 2: today and mini camp begins next week on Tuesday, so

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Speaker 2: that is mandatory. The voluntary practice sessions conclude today, Mandatory

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Speaker 2: mini camp starts next Tuesday, and obviously the media will

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Speaker 2: be taking a peek at whether or not James Cook

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Speaker 2: is in attendance for mandatory mini camp next week. You're

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Speaker 2: all anticipating Josh Allen to be back. Honeymoon's over rush

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Speaker 2: off his nuptials uh, and presumably honeymoon.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Uh, I don't know either.

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Speaker 1: How do you just hear if you're a movie star

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Speaker 1: and an MVP. I mean, you.

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Speaker 2: Gotta go remote like way you're going to the far reaches.

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Speaker 1: You got to look like it's gotta be like jungle,

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Speaker 1: right or your mom and dad's house.

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Speaker 2: You do have the financial wherewithal to rent an island

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Speaker 2: somewhere right with a full staff?

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Speaker 1: Is that possible?

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Speaker 2: Sure it is to do that. You know how many islands.

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Speaker 1: There are that it's gotta be a nice place.

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Speaker 2: It's a tropical location.

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Speaker 1: I get it. You kind of have to play that

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Speaker 1: car well, okay, true, but and also to I mean,

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Speaker 1: he did it for all his grooms and all those

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Speaker 1: all these jokers over here. They all flew private over it,

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Speaker 1: you know, to the west. Probably so he can they

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Speaker 1: can fly privating where they want. Just disappear in Presto

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Speaker 1: Chango reappeared a week and a half, two weeks.

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Speaker 2: I mean, where did you go on your honeymoon?

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Speaker 1: London?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 1: You did?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you just kind of walked around because you know,

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Speaker 2: I didn't get bobbed.

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Speaker 1: Amazingly in nineteen eighty six, I didn't get bothered too

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Speaker 1: much by paparazzi.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. Well, and even if you were, even

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Speaker 2: if your career had been further along when you got married,

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Speaker 2: you still wouldn't have gotten bothered over there in the

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Speaker 2: late eighties.

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Speaker 1: I don't get bothered here, Are you kidding me? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah. But like, for example, my wife and I

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Speaker 2: went to Hawaii for two weeks on our honeymoon. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and we just stayed at a hotel like the rest

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Speaker 2: of the regular Joe's and you know, enjoyed our honeymoon

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Speaker 2: when you're.

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Speaker 1: Six Yeah, those who can't do that when you're six

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Speaker 1: five and you're on every billboarding, on every comer. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then she's on a modest movie. Yeah, she's in

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Speaker 1: the biggest movie that so far the summer. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: hard to disappear. So I would mean you could go

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Speaker 1: to like Thailand or someplace. Uh yeah, you know what

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Speaker 2: You could probably get away with that, you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean. And a lot of those non English speaking

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Speaker 2: place well, and a lot of those five star, high

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Speaker 2: end hotels will accommodate special guests like that. Who do want,

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Speaker 2: you know, give us the most remote room on the property.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing in this private staff.

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Speaker 1: We're old school, though. What you do now is you

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Speaker 1: rent a joint. You rent, That's what I was saying.

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Speaker 1: Rent an island, yeah yeah, or mansion in the you know,

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Speaker 2: Get the only other people on this island are the

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Speaker 1: Right, that's it, right, Yeah, you could do that. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't rent the island. But you don't need to

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Speaker 1: do that. Just rent an Airbnb. Yeah, but then you

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Speaker 1: gotta cook yourself. But yeah, you don't want to your honeymoon,

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Speaker 1: you don't want you don't want Stella in the kitchen.

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Speaker 1: You want to go to get out, Go.

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Speaker 2: Steve, I got news for you. Airbnb isn't even on

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Speaker 2: the radar of those two. Yeah, they're not doing I

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Speaker 1: Not an Airbnb. What am I saying? What do I want?

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Speaker 2: They're not doing it.

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Speaker 1: Listen, They've got some high end joints that you can rent.

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Speaker 1: I know, but and also they probably know some people,

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Speaker 1: big properties around, so you can just go.

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Speaker 2: So next question, for you with staff. Have you ever

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Speaker 2: splurged on a vacation and done like the five star

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Speaker 1: I did go to a five stars stay a week

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Speaker 1: though it was for the Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, they had it.

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Speaker 1: Used to have a Hilton Hawaiian Village in Honolulu. Then

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Speaker 1: What are you talking about? The Hawaiian Village was awesome?

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Speaker 2: What are you?

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Speaker 1: They go? Now some five star resort? I go, what

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Speaker 1: do I know from five stars? So we go out,

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Speaker 1: My wife and I drive our rental car out there,

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Speaker 1: and there's a guy in a phone booth at the

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Speaker 1: little guard shack. You know. Can I help you? I said,

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Speaker 1: we're checking. Who's your name is? I said, mister and missus?

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker said, okay, go up, take to the right,

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Speaker 1: and they'll everybody's there. From that moment, for the arrest

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Speaker 1: of the eight days we were there, I never had

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Speaker 1: to tell another member another employee of that hotel, no

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Speaker 1: we're all our way out in Hawaii. We're up at

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Speaker 1: the pool, I have some coffee. There's a guy in

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Speaker 1: a green jumpsuit with his face down in the plants.

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Speaker 1: You're doing this? He looks up. He goes, oh, hi,

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Speaker 1: mister missus tasker. I'm like, I'm looking over my shoulder.

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Speaker 2: Sign the ground strew guy knows.

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Speaker 1: Like four days later, at six am in the morning,

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Speaker 2: That was That is the difference. That's the five star thing.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it is. That's the That's the story. I always

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Speaker 1: tell people. It's unbelievable and not you know, you're we're

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Speaker 1: the AFC. Everybody's there. The whole NFL takes the whole hotel,

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Speaker 1: and so you're you're hobbed on with all your boys

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Speaker 1: and he goes, hey, take this, and I go, okay,

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Speaker 1: I got it. Well I'm on another floor in the

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Speaker 1: other part of the hotel hell, and there's a chambermaid,

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Speaker 1: mister tasker. I'm like, it was almost It wasn't creepy

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Speaker 1: what good to see it. I was like, man, this

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Speaker 2: That's my first literally where everybody knows your name. That's

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Speaker 2: exactly right. It was unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: It was when you talk about it, it kind of

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Speaker 1: sounds creepy, but man out there it was customer service. Man.

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Speaker 1: It was. I couldn't believe it, and to this day

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Speaker 1: it astounds me. That to me, I think is the

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Speaker 1: biggest difference that astounds My wife and I did it

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Speaker 1: for the first time this past March. We were late

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Speaker 1: planning a getaway and we because we waited so long.

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Speaker 2: That was part of the reason we had displurged to

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Speaker 2: make it happen. Everything used, and unbeknowns to us, we

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Speaker 2: puked a hotel that was apparently on the top ten

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, you're there, the voice of the

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Speaker 2: It's not even that, So do you know who I am? Well,

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Speaker 2: that didn't matter because I could have been I could

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Speaker 2: have been Joe Blow from Tim Buck too, and it

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Speaker 2: wouldn't matter. Your service would have been the same. But

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Speaker 2: holy cow, what a difference. Like you walk in there

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Speaker 2: and people are people are putting a cold drink in

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Speaker 2: your hand. I'm not even in the lobby yet. Just

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Speaker 2: we just arrived. I'm barely out of the passenger van,

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Speaker 2: Somebody grabbed my bag. My backpack's ripped off my back,

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Speaker 2: and I'm They're like, we're gonna need you to sit

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Speaker 2: they're telling you about all the things that they have

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Speaker 2: to offer there, this is where you're gonna be. Your

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Speaker 2: blah blah blah, And I'm just sitting Here's holy croup.

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Speaker 1: You say that and it sounds like, okay, it sounds good.

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing, and this is this is elite

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Speaker 1: customer service. Right. All those people who give you the drink,

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Speaker 1: take your backpack taking they all like they're they're like

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Speaker 1: they know you and you're they're trying to take care

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Speaker 1: of you because you're their friend and they want to

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Speaker 1: make it nice for you. It's an attitude that it's

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Speaker 1: like a vibe that's like you feel like you're on

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Speaker 1: a first name bas with. All the staff is all

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Speaker 1: like this, yeah, oh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: It's just they're not doing it because they do it

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Speaker 1: for everybody. You really feel like they're doing it because

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Speaker 1: you're there, you know what I mean. Yes, there's a

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Speaker 1: subtle different person. Yeah, it's subtle difference, but man, oh man,

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Speaker 1: I'm a bad guy. I don't know that I could

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Speaker 1: pull that kind of customer service off. I can't do

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Speaker 1: that in my house when my mom and dad showed.

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Speaker 2: Up, right, I'm pretty confident I can't either. Service I've

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Speaker 2: been I had a lot of jobs like that in

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Speaker 2: the service industry where there was a restaurant industry or whatever,

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Speaker 2: and that is hard work.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll say this to my wife and I've had

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Speaker 1: this conversation we have. You know, we have five grown

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Speaker 1: kids on that. It's a good life lesson. Oh tell

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Speaker 1: your kids to go wait tables.

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Speaker 2: You should be on the other side of the service

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Speaker 2: industry at some point in your life.

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Speaker 1: Try it.

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Speaker 2: You will have a much greater respect for the work

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Speaker 2: talking about all not just restaurants, hotel, you know, hospitality.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how we got in the weeds, but

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Speaker 1: He's been there for what is this going to be

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Speaker 2: I guess I guess there's some merit and nobility to that.

435
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean, yes, I'm all about That's It

436
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Speaker 1: says a lot about the guy.

437
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Speaker 2: There's a lot of players who wouldn't do that.

438
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, not a lot of people. Yeah, you're right, he's

439
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,880
Speaker 1: an little different spot financially than most people are, though,

440
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Speaker 1: But nevertheless.

441
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Speaker 2: In other quarterbacks meaning in other quarterback news, Brown's third

442
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:41,080
Speaker 2: round pick quarterback Dylan Gabriel signed his four year rookie deal,

443
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Speaker 2: so he is under contract, and he is part of

444
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Speaker 2: that swath and swarm of quarterbacks in Brown's camp, including

445
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Speaker 2: Joe Flacco, Kenny Pickett, Shador Sanders, and Deshaun Watson who's

446
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Speaker 2: probably not going to be part of the equation coming

447
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Speaker 2: off an Achilles injury. So I'm really curious to see.

448
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Speaker 2: Everybody always talks about those multiplayer quarterback competitions and they're

449
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 2: always everybody naturally asks who's it going to be? And

450
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 2: Iomo is intrigued by who's getting whittled off the you know,

451
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Speaker 2: off the branch first. You know, who's the first.

452
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Speaker 1: To throw produced?

453
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Speaker 2: Yeah, who's getting over who's getting thrown overboard first? Because

454
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Speaker 2: that's the first shoe that's gonna drop. The final decisions

455
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:33,880
Speaker 2: not come until like late August, isn't final in all likelihood.

456
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Speaker 1: No, the guy that goes out there first, he may

457
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Speaker 1: have a little bit longer lease than the other guys,

458
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Speaker 1: but that's that's the only distinction. Yeah, you know what

459
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Speaker 1: I mean?

460
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Speaker 2: Yep, oh, I do?

461
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Speaker 4: Uh.

462
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Speaker 2: Free agent running back JK Dobbins taking a visit with

463
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Speaker 2: the Broncos in Denver, today. Dobbins had over a thousand

464
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Speaker 2: yards from scrimmage and nine touchdowns last season for the Chargers,

465
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Speaker 2: but he is still a free agent. And then there

466
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 2: are the Steelers who are still waiting on veteran quarterback

467
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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers to sign with them and join the Fray.

468
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 2: In the midst of OTAs, head coach Mike Tomlin asked

469
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Speaker 2: if there was a point in the offseason when having

470
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Speaker 2: an incomplete quarterback room would hinder team development. Tomlin said, quote,

471
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Speaker 2: in the spring, it's about teaching and learning and getting

472
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Speaker 2: familiar with players and making sure they're getting familiar with

473
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Speaker 2: some of the things that we value. It's not an

474
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Speaker 2: evaluation time of the year for us. It's certainly not

475
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Speaker 2: a time of the year where we're focused on readying

476
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Speaker 2: ourselves for game action. Some reporters in Pittsburgh have noted

477
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Speaker 2: that that comment is in direct contrast from what he

478
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Speaker 2: said a year ago when he had Russell Wilson already

479
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Speaker 2: inserted as the number one quarterback for spring workouts in

480
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 2: an effort to what he described as streamlining team development,

481
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 2: when he said, quote, it just creates a synergy that

482
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Speaker 2: I think is good for the team this time of year.

483
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Speaker 2: He's got two different scenarios. Ye, he's got two different comments.

484
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Speaker 1: Of course you want. Yeah, every team's different. I don't

485
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Speaker 1: have a problem with that. He's he's doing. He's taken

486
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Speaker 1: the best path he can given the circumstances presented him.

487
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's all there is to it. Yeah, it

488
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Speaker 1: would be great to have an entrenched, elite starter right there.

489
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Speaker 2: They don't, yep, right now. Right now they have Mason

490
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Speaker 2: Rudolph Skyler Thompson and sixth round pick Will Howard at quarterback.

491
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Speaker 2: And we will talk a little bit more about the

492
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Speaker 2: Steelers in the second hour or the show, when former

493
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Speaker 2: Steelers and Bill's linebacker Arthur Motes joins us to talk

494
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Speaker 2: about one of the scheduled opponents for the Bills coming up.

495
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Speaker 2: Did you this season?

496
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Speaker 1: This just came across to do you see what happened?

497
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Speaker 1: How the Giants practice ended for their a fight with

498
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Speaker 1: a big fight. There was a fight between Brian Burns

499
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 1: and James Hudson, pushing and shoving. They got pulled apart

500
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Speaker 1: and then pulled off the field immediately. Cavon Thibodeaux and

501
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 1: Jermaine Illuminor got got into a fight the very next

502
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Speaker 1: play and so it de escalated into an all out

503
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Speaker 1: brawl and Dave Ball just said, that's it, guys, let's

504
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Speaker 1: get off the field.

505
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Speaker 2: Brian Burns did address the media after practice and he said, look,

506
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,159
Speaker 2: it was really hot today. Tempers flared, we squashed it.

507
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,919
Speaker 2: It's all good because it's almost ninety degrees in the

508
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Speaker 2: New York metropolitan area today.

509
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Speaker 1: And I'll say this too. It it sounds bad. And

510
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 1: we brought it up because it is a talking point

511
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 1: because it's probably the most exciting thing that happened on

512
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Speaker 1: a practice field during the preseason during this OTAs. But

513
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Speaker 1: having been in my share, probably less than my share,

514
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 1: but my share of fights in on a football field,

515
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Speaker 1: in particularly in training camp and practice, you know, against

516
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 1: your own players, when when your guys get frustrated with

517
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:43,400
Speaker 1: each other, it's it's not even water off a duck's back.

518
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Speaker 1: It's like all right, say man, it's like these guys, Hey,

519
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,959
Speaker 1: my bad, bro, no worries, let's go and that's it. Yeah,

520
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 1: that's it. So it's yeah, it's interesting for all of

521
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Speaker 1: us out here because I mean it's only OTAs, man,

522
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,160
Speaker 1: it's OTAs. Nobody wants to get embarrassed.

523
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 2: Even then that yeah, it's not nothing.

524
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 1: It does not I don't know whether, and you know,

525
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 1: of course the media they think it reflects poorly on

526
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: like his poor leadership on Brian Daboles part. No, I

527
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't subscribe to that.

528
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 2: I think it's hot and humid. Guys are going hard.

529
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 2: You know, people's patience level gets shorter considerably. Yeah, there

530
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 2: is an update before we wrap up around the NFL

531
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Speaker 2: on Anthony Richardson's shoulder injury. The shoulder soreness is in

532
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 2: his throwing shoulder, which he injured, as we know in

533
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. He injured the ac joint, and coach

534
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 2: Stiken says he aggravated that ac joint in his shoulder

535
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Speaker 2: and he is expected to return quote at some point

536
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 2: in training camp. So it's not even certain that he's

537
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 2: going to begin training camp on the practice field.

538
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Speaker 1: Yeah, even coming into his third year, that's a guy

539
00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 1: that needs reps. I mean, he's.

540
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Speaker 2: That not good.

541
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Speaker 1: Well, now now you're sitting back, You sit back in

542
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: your chair and go what was he doing all off season?

543
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 1: Was he was he training and preparing to get better? Oh,

544
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 1: he's he trying to get better?

545
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 2: Or was he healing up well, that's that's an injury

546
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 2: from twenty twenty three.

547
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Speaker 1: Was he like was he out for instance, was he

548
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 1: out with Jordan Palmer, like Josh and Joe burn All?

549
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: It was he out there working and drum, working on

550
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 1: his footwork, working on his arm strength, working on whatever.

551
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 2: Watching Was he getting better?

552
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: It doesn't look like it.

553
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,400
Speaker 2: No. And again we're at the time of the year

554
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 2: where there is no contact, so not to mention the

555
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 2: fact that quarterbacks are wearing red jerseys all the time.

556
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's not.

557
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 2: Nobody can touch them anyway. It's about throwing well, right,

558
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying. Like he can't even throw a

559
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 2: football without having a problem, Like he throws a hundred balls,

560
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 2: you know, one day, and his arms so bad he's

561
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Speaker 2: shut down for the rest of spring practices.

562
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Speaker 1: Guy's a bust.

563
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Speaker 2: It's not good.

564
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: That's a bust to go bad in Indianapolis.

565
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 2: Horribly careening towards here.

566
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Speaker 1: Yes, here's what's gonna happen. We've seen it all too often.

567
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: Start out being at half some moments, then the kind

568
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,239
Speaker 1: of interiors injured doesn't come back from the injury. Then

569
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Speaker 1: he has a bad moment like pulling himself out of

570
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: a game, team doesn't get better, don't win games. He's

571
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: done in Indianapolis. He'll get one more shot to compete

572
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: for a starting job in some other team, some team

573
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Speaker 1: that's trying to rebuild. Then that'll be it. He'll be

574
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: an either career backup or he'll be out of the league.

575
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Speaker 2: The one rare exception to that was Geno Smith, Yes,

576
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 2: who was a backup for a long time and then

577
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 2: got a crack at a starting job, played very well,

578
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 2: resurrected his career. But yeah, I mean Bill's fans have

579
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 2: seen examples of that. EJ. Mannual perfect example. Starter here,

580
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 2: had some injuries, struggled, resurfaces as a backwhip somewhere else,

581
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 2: it's to another team. And then Nathan Peterman still in

582
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 2: the league.

583
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: Huh is Nathan Peterman still in the league. I don't

584
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: know if last year it's fresh out. If he is,

585
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: and he's been around, you know, kicked around. Yeah, he's

586
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: a survivor. Well just exactly the same way.

587
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Speaker 2: Yep. Uh. Topic of discussion for you, which Bills twenty

588
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 2: twenty five non playoff opponent from last year concerns you

589
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 2: the most? This season? As we know, the Bills have

590
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 2: only six regular season games against playoff opponents. That means

591
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 2: there are eleven other games against non playoff teams. Which

592
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 2: one of those non playoff opponents concerns you the most,

593
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 2: either based on what they've done this offseason or maybe

594
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 2: a feel they underachieved last season. Eight oh three oh

595
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Speaker 2: five fifty one, eight of eight five fifty two five fifty.

596
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Speaker 2: Those are the numbers to join us, and we do

597
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Speaker 2: have open lines for you. If you can't give us

598
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Speaker 2: a call, not a problem. You can hit us up

599
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 2: on the tweet sheet at one bills Live. Give us

600
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Speaker 2: a non playoff opponent on Buffalo's twenty twenty five schedule

601
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Speaker 2: that concerns you the most at oh three zho five

602
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 2: fifty your phone calls next year on one Bill's Live.

603
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 2: Stay right where you are, which bill twenty twenty five

604
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 2: non playoff opponent concerns you the most? Only six games

605
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Speaker 2: against playoff teams this fall for the Bill's playoff teams

606
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Speaker 2: from last year, which means there's eleven games against non

607
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 2: playoff opponents. We got a bunch of them in the

608
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Speaker 2: division that you play twice, which is why there are

609
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Speaker 2: eleven such games. But is there a non playoff opponent

610
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 2: that concerns you the most. Which team would that be?

611
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 2: Maybe you like what they did in the offseason. Maybe

612
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Speaker 2: they loaded up their roster with a lot of new talent,

613
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Speaker 2: and that has you a bit concerned about how the

614
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Speaker 2: matchup will look this fall. Fifty one eighty eight, five

615
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Speaker 2: fifty two, five fifty is the number to join.

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Speaker 1: Brian and I were talking. It's just after that we

617
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: went to break and I was like, my call was

618
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Speaker 1: I thought it was a New England Patriots. Bob me

619
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Speaker 1: because you play him twice and both of us think

620
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Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel is an excellent coach. He's gonna get the

621
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Speaker 1: most at him. They got a quarterback you worry about.

622
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: Their defense has always been good yet and they.

623
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Speaker 2: Brought Sean Moore million in cap space.

624
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Speaker 1: Sean McDaniels is back there as the offensive Josh McDaniels,

625
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: and so you think they're gonna be competently coached. I

626
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: don't know, but I know I think Brown he's got

627
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: a different one. And and once I looked at it

628
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: again and I was like, oh, yeah, that might be

629
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Speaker 1: the team. What do you what's your take?

630
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Speaker 2: I like Cincinnati for this just because of their points

631
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Speaker 2: scoring power. They finished sixth in scoring last year, just

632
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Speaker 2: under twenty nine points per game. That was about a

633
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 2: point and a half off of what Buffalo averaged as

634
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 2: an offense last year. And more importantly, you say, wow,

635
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 2: their defense still stinks. Yes, yes, I think their defense

636
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 2: is still going to struggle. But they lost seven games

637
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 2: by one score last year, three by three points or less,

638
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 2: two of which were one point games. So their offense

639
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 2: is good enough to keep them in every game that

640
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 2: they play pretty much. I think they had three blowout losses.

641
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 2: Other than that, though, you know, they were right there,

642
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 2: neck and neck with whoever they were playing each and

643
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 2: every week, and that makes them dangerous. And I think

644
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 2: most people would have said last year at the beginning

645
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 2: of the season that the Cincinnati Bengals are a playoff

646
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 2: team because their defense was so bad. Ultimately they were not,

647
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Speaker 2: and they didn't win enough of the close ones.

648
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Speaker 1: But they're not that far he seems they're not that

649
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Speaker 1: far that far off, But I get it. They strike

650
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Speaker 1: me as a team much like the nineteen seventies San

651
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: Diego Chargers with Dan Fouts. They could light up everybody,

652
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: but they couldn't win games. You know, they were a

653
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: playoff team maybe sometime some years. They put up great

654
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: offensive none numbers, air coreal, the whole thing. They just

655
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: were never really a heavy duty contender year over year.

656
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: You knew they were going to score points, but you

657
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: didn't know if they could win games. That's kind of

658
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals to me.

659
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 2: Here's the other part of it, though, in the Sean

660
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:19,760
Speaker 2: McDermott era, the Bengals have had the Bill's number. Bills

661
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,800
Speaker 2: are one in three in the Sean McDermott era against

662
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 2: Cincinnati and probably would have been one in four had

663
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:31,720
Speaker 2: the DeMar Hamlin game not completely suspended and ultimately canceled

664
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,879
Speaker 2: that game because that was not going the right way either. Well,

665
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 2: it was.

666
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: Pretty early, yes it was, so I'm yeah, that's neither

667
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,760
Speaker 1: here nor there. I get it was we're not feeling

668
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 1: good early in that game. But yeah, the Bills had

669
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: one possession, so I'm not really I can't go. I

670
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: want to pass judgement, not past judgement.

671
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you.

672
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: But they're a good team.

673
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm going to give you a second team. And

674
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 2: I think this one is under the radar. And I

675
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 2: think most fans, just because of their lack of familiarity

676
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 2: with this team, see this and just check it off

677
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 2: as a victory. The Atlanta Falcons, they lost six games

678
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 2: by one score last year and finished eight and nine,

679
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 2: and they had a quarterback change late in the season.

680
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 2: Now you come in with second year quarterback Michael Pennix,

681
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 2: who was impressive as a rookie as the entrench starter

682
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 2: right off the rip. They have elite talent at the

683
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 2: skill positions, be Jean Robinson, Drake London, Kyle Pitts. They

684
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 2: did a lot of work this offseason to try to

685
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 2: shore up their defense, which is the weak link, and

686
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 2: you got to play them on the road this year.

687
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 2: So to me, that's a sneaky team that at least

688
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 2: has the fire power to hang with you to a

689
00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 2: certain degree. I'm not saying they're going to beat the Bills.

690
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 2: I'm just saying that's a team you better take seriously.

691
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing, too, there's a lot of these

692
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 1: teams for different reasons. Atlanta is you kind of poop

693
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: poo Atlanta because they've never been able to put together

694
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: they you know, they for whatever reason, they seem like

695
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears and the old days of the Detroit

696
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: lif They just never get out of their way. They

697
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: were always something was always messed up with it. They

698
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: never had the talent, did something was always keeping them

699
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: from being as what good as you felt like they

700
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 1: could have been. That's the Atlanta Falcons to me, what

701
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: about a team that's the other ways? You got a

702
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: great head coach who does it with less over the

703
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: course of it. And I'm thinking about the Pittsburgh Steelers.

704
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: What if Aaron Rodgers signs with the Steelers and now

705
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,399
Speaker 1: he hasn't, so it's really it's a moot point. Does

706
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: that change your attitude? Because Mike Tomlin, you know, he's

707
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: gonna maximize that team. He's gonna lead them and they're

708
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: gonna win more games than they lose. And with Rogers

709
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: and with Tomlin's ability to coach around problems on their roster,

710
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: the Steelers might step forward.

711
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, they could.

712
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: They were off and we played them at we play them,

713
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: Oh that's true, we play them at Pittsburgh. I guess

714
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 1: they're not in this conversation.

715
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 2: Bills, No, they're not. Their Bills are playing them later

716
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 2: in the year Week thirteen, and the Steelers usually fade

717
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 2: right around that time of year. Last year, perfect example,

718
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,879
Speaker 2: they're ten and three out of the gate, they lose

719
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,479
Speaker 2: their last four and finish ten and seven, crawl into

720
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 2: the playoffs and get roundly eliminated without much effort.

721
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: I'm late season fade.

722
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 2: They've done it.

723
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: To me, is about the players, not the leadership, and

724
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 1: it's a different group.

725
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 2: Sometimes. I feel like there are some old school coaches

726
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 2: that still push their teams too hard. Mike tom got

727
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 2: a tired team at the end of the year. There's

728
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 2: all into that category.

729
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: There is something in that, There's no question about it.

730
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 2: Belichick was the victim of that also later in his Patriots' career,

731
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 2: push his team.

732
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: We're going in pads, and even if you don't go

733
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: in pads, being in there and keeping the pressure on

734
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: mentally and yeah, psychologically, guys get exhausted and they can't

735
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: give They can't give the game everything they need to

736
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 1: give it to win. So, yeah, there's something I'll say that, Brownie,

737
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,760
Speaker 1: you're right about that. Mike Tomlin has always said iron

738
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: sharpens iron. He's like one of those guys and they

739
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: pound heads and they do all that. Listen, you get

740
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 1: a week thirteen of the regular season, he had three

741
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: weeks of training, four week a month of training camp

742
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 1: and now you're week thirteen and you've been banging heads

743
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 1: every couple of times a week.

744
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 2: Even Steelers would be coming off a road game at

745
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 2: Chicago the week before, not that that's a long trip,

746
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 2: but still.

747
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I get that. But nevertheless, they still

748
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 1: win more games than they lose.

749
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 2: Hasn't gotten them anything. But no, I get what you're saying.

750
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 2: Let's go to the owns at eight O three oh

751
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 2: five fifty one, eight five fifty two, five fifty the

752
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 2: number to get on board. Let's go to Butcher on

753
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:06,399
Speaker 2: the East Side.

754
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 3: We got for us Butcher, my brother's from another beautiful mother.

755
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 3: It's pleasure to talk to you. I love THEMSG, I

756
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 3: love w G and to the fans who listen and

757
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 3: watch Butcher from the East Side, definitely love you. I'm

758
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 3: gonna get right to it. A couple of years ago,

759
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,760
Speaker 3: you and I were speaking about our football team and

760
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 3: how we had to make a transition to the future

761
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 3: to adapt to win last season. We did that, Sean

762
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 3: McDermot and Brandon being gutted the coaching staff, and we

763
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 3: got other coaches in their better teachers and to deal

764
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 3: with the young players, and we were successful.

765
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 5: As you already know. I believe in teaching. Don't get

766
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 5: me wrong. The students are the players. Is good to

767
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 5: have some talent, but if you're going to have teachers,

768
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 5: because there's some players who are not household names, if

769
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 5: you've got good teachers, they can make them household names.

770
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 5: Saying that my two teams, I got two teams and

771
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 5: they're in our division. Steve, you already brought it up

772
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 5: one time with Mike Brabel, Doug maroone, Josh Josh McDaniels

773
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 5: and all those guys at New England. Plus they already

774
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 5: got good students and now they got good teacher, and

775
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 5: I think they're gonna be successful. It's there's something for

776
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 5: us to watch, maybe in game five, but Game two

777
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 5: is more of my main concern. My main concern is

778
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 5: the New York Jets. Uh, Aaron my Man, Aaron Glynn

779
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 5: over there, you got Aaron Washington, got Steve Wilks running

780
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 5: the defense, Aar Washington being the defensive line teacher. But

781
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 5: he win brought a guy who is the quarterbacks coach

782
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:33,879
Speaker 5: under under Ben Johnson uh over in Detroit, and Uh,

783
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 5: you know, I really believe he's going to be successful.

784
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 5: Learning from this guy with justin fields being offensively uh

785
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 5: a talent in being successful. The Jets already had a

786
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,280
Speaker 5: talented roster. They just had to get the coaching staff

787
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 5: and get good teachers to add to what they already

788
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 5: have done. So those two teams are my teams are

789
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 5: game two in Game five that I'm looking that's going

790
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 5: to be kind of difficult that I don't want my

791
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 5: Buffalo Bills to act like, you know, we've been beating

792
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 5: our division all year, we're successful. No, they have watched

793
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 5: the blueprint of how our team is built. With exception

794
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 5: of having the Josh Allen, they have boop to do teaching.

795
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 5: And this is I get our applaud the Jets organization

796
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 5: and New England organization, but actually getting good teachers. Now,

797
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 5: I'm gonna put that to decide. And the last, but

798
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 5: not least, I want the Buffalo Bills going into training

799
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 5: camp and maybe in mini camp, to go ahead and

800
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 5: let Mike White be the number two quarterback behind Josh Allen.

801
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 5: Reason I say that we know what mister Trubisky can

802
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 5: already do. We know what Shaney already did in Kansas City.

803
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 5: Mike White is ready to be a good backup solid,

804
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 5: be ready to play it, just like Steve. I mean,

805
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 5: don't get me wrong. I know Steve said Josh go

806
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 5: to season goes I understand what he means by that.

807
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,280
Speaker 5: But I think with Mike White, we still can carry

808
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 5: the load to still win games. If by God, and

809
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 5: I pray it never happened, that number seventeen goes down.

810
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,240
Speaker 5: But I really want him. I really want the bills

811
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 5: that Gordon establish this right away so you can get

812
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 5: the proper reps you can get in the film, and

813
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 5: knowing that he is the guy behind Josh Allen. Thanks

814
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 5: so much for taking my call. I love you guys.

815
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 5: Have a great day, all right.

816
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: Thanks, But y'all the backup quarterback thing, I don't need that.

817
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: I'm not as.

818
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 2: Ready to say it's as urgent as you are.

819
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: I don't need there. None need to be done today.

820
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: If you really want them to have a competition, give

821
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: them reps and let them take They're doing it out here.

822
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: I mean, they're they're out here without Josh, so they

823
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:22,399
Speaker 1: can take all the reps they want. I do. I'm

824
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: not I'm not against Mike White being the backup quarterback.

825
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 1: I'm not against Mitchie Biscuits being the backup quarterback or

826
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: Shane Bouchelle. I don't I do not care. Just put

827
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: the rest of the right guy back there. Put the

828
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: guy that gives you the best chance to win with

829
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: the roster you've got now around him. The recipe will

830
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 1: absolutely be transformed. If it's not Josh taking reps. It's

831
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: gonna be a little different offense, different plays, different play designs,

832
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 1: different everything if Josh isn't there. So you got to

833
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: figure out with the roster you're giving Josh, which guy

834
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 1: gives you the best chance to win if it's not Josh.

835
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 1: So I don't care who it is. I get your point,

836
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 1: and you want to do it fast, you want to

837
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 1: get it done. But they're taking rips now without Josh

838
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 1: even in the building, so they're you know, I just

839
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: want to make the right choice. I don't care who

840
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 1: it is.

841
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 2: And look, I respect your opinion on the Jets. Butch

842
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 2: but new quarterback in a new system with a first

843
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 2: time coordinator at the NFL level, that's a that's a

844
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 2: tall order to not only get that humming, but get

845
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 2: it to a level of execution that's going to actually

846
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 2: win you football games. They got a lot of work

847
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 2: to do on that side of the ball. Ken Aaron Glenn,

848
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 2: you know, reshaped that defense into a formidable unit in

849
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 2: year one. Yeah, I think he could do that. The

850
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 2: offense is a whole different ball of wax, and it's

851
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 2: a tall order, and I just don't see them having

852
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 2: it all set, especially in week two of All Time,

853
00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 2: which is when the Bills played them the first time.

854
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 2: Got to take a break here, if you're holding an

855
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 2: eight O three oh five point fifty, We've got more

856
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 2: phone calls to get to, and we'll do that next.

857
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Speaker 2: Here on One Bill's Live, presented by a Lot of Health,

858
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Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, back here for a

859
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Speaker 2: Thursday edition of One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

860
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 2: with you, asking you which Bill's twenty twenty five non

861
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 2: playoff opponent concerns you the most. To Tom on the

862
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Speaker 2: West Side, next, what's up Tom?

863
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Speaker 4: Hey, guys, I just want to say I'm not worried

864
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 4: about my home games too much. I'm looking at the

865
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Speaker 4: away games, okay. And Steve, you already took you. You

866
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 4: took New England, Chris, you took Cincinnati, but we're not

867
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 4: playing them this year. We are playing them? Is are

868
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 4: we playing them home or away?

869
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: Home home?

870
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 4: Okay? Yeah, So I'm not worried about Cincinnati because that

871
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 4: stank got skewed because of the damarra Ham one of

872
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 4: them that we saw him in the playoffs that year

873
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 4: and that was that was when we got knocked out

874
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 4: of the playoffs.

875
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 2: Yep.

876
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 4: Okay. And then you mentioned Atlanta and those were my

877
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 4: first three picks. So I'm looking at the away games

878
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 4: and I'm gonna say it's Houston because Houston always seems

879
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 4: to give us a big fight. Now, I don't know

880
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 4: how good CJ. Stroud or if they're going to have

881
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 4: Tank Nell back this year. I love Tank Dell or

882
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 4: who they even got a receiver anymore because they got

883
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 4: rid of stuff on Diggs. But talk about Houston, Yeah.

884
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 2: Okay, they were a playoff team last year. But that's okay.

885
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 2: The Texans refortified both there. Well, they retooled their offensive line.

886
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 2: It's probably the best way to put it. They traded

887
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 2: away their left tackle, Laramie Tunsel, and then drafted arianna

888
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 2: Ursery in the second round. They also acquired Cam Robinson

889
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 2: via free agency, the longtime left tackle of the Jaguars.

890
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 2: So that's what they did to their offensive line. Feeling

891
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 2: they've made it better, I'm not convinced that they have.

892
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 2: And then they refortified their receiving corps, which no longer

893
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 2: has Stefan Diggs and Robert Woods. And they drafted Jaden

894
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 2: Higgins out of Iowa State with the thirty fourth overall selection,

895
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:26,959
Speaker 2: and then drafted his teammate who I liked even better,

896
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 2: Jaylen Noel, out of Iowa State, a third round pick.

897
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 2: So they've got some youth that they've added to the

898
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 2: receiving corps that will have to, you know, work with Stroud,

899
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 2: who by the way, is not throwing because of shoulder soreness.

900
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 2: Still have Nico Collins, still have Tank Dell as you mentioned,

901
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,240
Speaker 2: so plenty of weapons there. And they have Dalton Schultz,

902
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:50,839
Speaker 2: who I think is an underrated tight end.

903
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, they drafted.

904
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 2: Question is are they gonna be able to protect Stroud

905
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 2: long enough to make plays.

906
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: They drafted six of their draft picks were offensive players,

907
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: two wide. It's an offensive tackle or running back, and

908
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 1: a tight end and a quarterback as well in the

909
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: sixth round. So yeah, it remains to be seeing what

910
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 1: they can do. I'm that team does not scare me.

911
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 2: And we should also mention brand new offensive coordinator because

912
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 2: after last season they fired Bobby Slowick in a surprise

913
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 2: move and have a new offensive coordinator there. I'll have

914
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:23,280
Speaker 2: to look it up. I don't remember who it.

915
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:26,760
Speaker 1: Was, but it is. It's a road game. It's hard.

916
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,479
Speaker 1: You know, they're hard to win. It's a hard place

917
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 1: to play. It's a great stadium, big, brand new, huge stadium,

918
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: super Bowl type stadium.

919
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 2: Oh they got rams passing game coordinator Nick.

920
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 1: Kyley, So yeah, I could listen to Houston, except you know,

921
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: our guy guy taking snaps is way better than their guy,

922
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 1: and our offensive line is better than theirs. Certainly offensively

923
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: were the better team.

924
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 2: Their pass rushes for real though, I mean Daniel Hunter

925
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 2: and Will Anderson off the edge. Those two guys are

926
00:47:59,400 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 2: no joke.

927
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: He just reminds you nobody sacks Josh. He's the least

928
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,399
Speaker 1: sacked quarterback in the league. When he know you've seen

929
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: you remember what it looks like when Josh takes a

930
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: sack because he decides he's gonna take a sack.

931
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I get what you're saying.

932
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: You know, So he gets sacked like three percent of

933
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 1: the time it leads the league. So yeah, your pass rush,

934
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: good for you, but Josh's gonna outrun all the guys

935
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: that you have rush in the passer and you better

936
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: cover up on the back end.

937
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 2: Let's go to Bob on a sale. What's up Bob?

938
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:33,399
Speaker 6: Hey, guys, how you doing good?

939
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 7: Good?

940
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 6: You know, truthfully, I am not afraid for us to

941
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 6: play anybody or worried about us playing anybody this year.

942
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 6: I told you just before this is our year. We

943
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 6: will be playing eleven home games. I don't think I

944
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 6: quite say that right. What I mean by that is

945
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 6: Josh is gonna win the last game ever played in

946
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 6: that stadium. I still call it Rich Stadium. He's gonna

947
00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 6: win it, and we're gonna go to the super Bowl.

948
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 6: But the thing is is that this this team, it's

949
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 6: just it's so different than any team that we've ever had.

950
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 6: Josh is like one of the most amazing players that

951
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 6: I've ever watched as a quarterback. I mean, I watched Jim,

952
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 6: I watched all you guys over the years, and I'm sorry,

953
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 6: but I when you guys call me, I get so confused.

954
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 6: I start stuttering on what I want to say. But

955
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, is that to be the best, you

956
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 6: gotta beat the best, right So I'm not afraid of anybody.

957
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 6: I think, like everybody we're gonna play this year is

958
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 6: gonna be a practice, and you gotta practice against the

959
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 6: best to get better. Because I've been an athlete my

960
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 6: whole life and this is our year, so bring it on.

961
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 6: I am excited about New England this year. I think

962
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 6: they've come a long way. Josh really appreciates that quarterback.

963
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 6: He is amazing. You know, they're not gonna be an issue,

964
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 6: but we're gonna be number one. We're going to the ball,

965
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 6: so rock and roll, go bells, love the show Man,

966
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 6: And I'll keep calling in and I'll try to get

967
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 6: myself a little bit more straight out to say what

968
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 6: you want.

969
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks, your call was fine. They weren't tripping over yourself,

970
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:13,919
Speaker 2: I don't think.

971
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: But except all right.

972
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 2: He says, you know, fear no one, and fear no one.

973
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 2: We fear no one. These games are going to be

974
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 2: of the practice, like variety. I don't know if it's

975
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 2: going to be that easy.

976
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: We're going to get the number one seed and play

977
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: the AFC Championship game here as a final game and

978
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: a win on the way to the Super Bowl.

979
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:33,240
Speaker 2: Okay, I like your optimism. Put it on the whiteboard.

980
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: We'll write it down.

981
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 2: So we are up against the break here, we should

982
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 2: mention I mentioned Atlanta as a potential game to be

983
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 2: concerned about. Steve mentioned New England and Atlanta and New

984
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 2: England both play the Bills off bye weeks, so that's

985
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 2: something just to note there. Both of them will be

986
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 2: coming off extra rest. It's the second time Buffalo plays

987
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 2: New England that New England would be coming off of bye,

988
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,760
Speaker 2: and then in week five when they played Atlanta, Atlanta

989
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 2: will be coming off in early by in week four.

990
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,359
Speaker 2: Got to step aside and take a break here when

991
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 2: we come back. Our number two will begin with former

992
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 2: Bills and Steelers linebacker Arthur Mote says he kind of

993
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,399
Speaker 2: gives us a taste of what the Steelers are trying

994
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 2: to put together for their twenty twenty five campaign. They

995
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 2: are on the Bill's schedule. Will begin to look at

996
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 2: Bill's opponents with the Steelers here. Next on One Bill's

997
00:51:25,480 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 2: Live presented by Colida Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Ready. The

998
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 2: One Bills Live presented by Calllighta Health Welcome to the

999
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,439
Speaker 2: second hour of the show here on a Thursday. Chris Brown,

1000
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you, and we're kind of making our

1001
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 2: way through the list of Bill's opponents for twenty twenty five.

1002
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 2: And next up on the docket to discuss are the

1003
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers. And here to help us do that former

1004
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 2: Bills and Steelers linebacker Arthur Motes, who is also the

1005
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 2: host of the Arthur Motes Experience podcast. Good to see him,

1006
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 2: mister Motes. I was glad when you have a time

1007
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,800
Speaker 2: to join us, please to have you with us. First question,

1008
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 2: right out of the shoot here, have you talked to

1009
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers? Has he given you a firm date as

1010
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 2: to when he's showing up and signing his contract with

1011
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 2: the Steelers?

1012
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 7: Well, first off, always good to see both of you, guys.

1013
00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 8: Mat anytime we get a chance to be back over

1014
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 8: here with you or man, it's always an opportunity that

1015
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 8: I'm smiling about.

1016
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:03,399
Speaker 1: Man.

1017
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:07,919
Speaker 7: But in terms of Aaron Rodgers, no, I thought two

1018
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 7: months ago we.

1019
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 8: Would have had this answer already, but it's one of

1020
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 8: those things that has become the running joke. In terms

1021
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 8: of Staler Country, Man, we see the different hints the

1022
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 8: different things that he'll put out there publicly, but no

1023
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 8: official word just yet.

1024
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 1: Is it Do you feel what's your guy? Is it

1025
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 1: an inevitability? I mean, it's hard to say goodbye to

1026
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:28,919
Speaker 1: the game when you've played at such a high level.

1027
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: The guy's multiple four time MVP, is he? I mean,

1028
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 1: it's hard to walk away. And Peyton Manning said it

1029
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 1: to me in a production meeting one time. He says it,

1030
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: there's only one place to play quarterback. You know, it's

1031
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: the NFL. Once you quit playing quarterback at the NFL,

1032
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 1: you can't play it anywhere else, and you played as

1033
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 1: long as you can. Is it an inevitability that Aaron

1034
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 1: Rodgers comes back in place?

1035
00:53:58,320 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 7: Me personally, I lean that way.

1036
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,959
Speaker 8: I say, I don't feel like this dude is guy

1037
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 8: that's looking to retire for a couple of factors. Number One,

1038
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:09,399
Speaker 8: you think about him as a competitor, super prideful. We

1039
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 8: know who he is in terms of the stamped four

1040
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 8: time MVP, Super Bowl champion, but the two years in

1041
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 8: New York obviously didn't go the way that he thought

1042
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 8: it should have went. So for him, this finally gives

1043
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 8: him that chance to if you're going to have that

1044
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,879
Speaker 8: final write off, do it the right way. This gives

1045
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 8: him that opportunity, but also always say he's too interested

1046
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 8: into the offseason in the sense of you're you know,

1047
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 8: spending time in Pittsburgh.

1048
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 7: You had a six hour visit in the city in

1049
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 7: the middle.

1050
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 8: Of March where or actually not even March, it was

1051
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 8: before then where it really wasn't a ton going on,

1052
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 8: but you could just see where he's still intrigued. He's

1053
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 8: still thinking about it. And we always say as competitors,

1054
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 8: if you still have any desiring you to play while

1055
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 8: you're still at this level of you know, being his

1056
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 8: primer close enough in primate range, then yeah, you keep

1057
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 8: playing because once you said like you said, once you

1058
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 8: leave and walk away from this, you don't get another

1059
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 8: opportunity to come back.

1060
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 7: There isn't another league.

1061
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 8: This is a step down that he can go out

1062
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 8: there and be Aaron Rodgers of such and such squad like,

1063
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 8: that's not how it works for him. So for me,

1064
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 8: I do think it is an inevitability. But I also

1065
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 8: think that this is also partly what happened last year

1066
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,320
Speaker 8: with the Jets in terms of their Ota Mini camp scenario,

1067
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 8: where he was there for OTAs doesn't show up for

1068
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:23,359
Speaker 8: the mandatory portion of mini camp and then they disciplined him.

1069
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 7: To me, I see him as a guy that didn't

1070
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 7: want to even entertain that.

1071
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 8: And this is also how you can kind of make

1072
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 8: sure that that doesn't happen, is by just not being

1073
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 8: under contract. But I do feel like there is some

1074
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:38,800
Speaker 8: type of conversation, in some type of commitment that both

1075
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 8: the organization and Aaron Rodgers has.

1076
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 2: All right, so let's just say, I mean, we know

1077
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 2: that you talk to or listen to Steelers fans more

1078
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 2: than we do. And I'm curious because knowing the blue

1079
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 2: collar mentality that people of Pittsburgh have, they deal very

1080
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 2: much in black and there's very little gray when it

1081
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 2: comes to opinions for Steelers fans. How is this all

1082
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 2: sitting with Steelers fans? Because to me, it's like either

1083
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 2: show up or don't play for us, or don't don't

1084
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 2: yank us around like this. I gotta believe this has

1085
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:23,919
Speaker 2: rankled a fair population of Steelers nation.

1086
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 7: You're absolutely right.

1087
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,439
Speaker 8: I mean, let's be real what I say about Steelers fans,

1088
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 8: They're very similar to Bills fans, extremely passionate, love their

1089
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 8: tea and They're not going for the guy that is

1090
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 8: coming in here and acting entitled or acting as if

1091
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 8: he's better than somebody. This is a blue collar city,

1092
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 8: and yes, you do have a lot of the people

1093
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 8: that have that, especially as long as it's progressed now too,

1094
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:51,800
Speaker 8: if this was still, you know, early March or April timeframe,

1095
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 8: I think it's a different conversation. We're in June, a

1096
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:59,320
Speaker 8: week away from mandatory mini camp, and we're still questioning

1097
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 8: if you're going to play do you want to show

1098
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 8: up that has rubbed people the wrong way? But the

1099
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 8: flip side is this, because they do operate in black

1100
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 8: and white in Pittsburgh, they say the standard is the standard,

1101
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,760
Speaker 8: and they say that that is just super bowls or butts.

1102
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 8: And when you have that type of mindset, that type

1103
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 8: of standard, now you have to take in pride and

1104
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 8: ego and remove that from the equation and simply say

1105
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 8: which quarterback option gives your team the best chance to

1106
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 8: win in twenty twenty five. And you can go to

1107
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 8: the conversation of Mason Rudolph, you can do that exercise

1108
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 8: with Will.

1109
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 7: Howard, you can even go down to Scalar Thompson.

1110
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 8: But as a whole I think as a consistent we're

1111
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 8: all going to agree that Aaron Rodgers is the best

1112
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 8: and the most proven and the guy that's going to

1113
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 8: give you the most confidence to achieve those type of goals.

1114
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:47,959
Speaker 8: If that's truly with the mindset is in twenty twenty

1115
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 8: five for the black and Goal.

1116
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 1: So Aaron Rodgers and on one of his well this

1117
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 1: season seems rare that he made it. It was on

1118
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 1: with Pat McAfee or whatever. He said that the parameters

1119
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 1: of a contract have been in place for weeks. So

1120
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 1: this really is about him picking his spot and say,

1121
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: if I'm either the thumbs up thumbs down, you know

1122
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 1: where the and what you say makes a lot of sense.

1123
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 1: Just do away with the off season drama, stay away,

1124
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 1: and then show up when it when it really matters.

1125
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 1: I would think though, that this week of mandatory mini

1126
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: camp might be a point where they say, Okay, he's in,

1127
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 1: let's go and and make hay with that. Do you

1128
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 1: see do you get a sense that something is intimate

1129
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 1: and imminent.

1130
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 8: So yes, But at the same time, because it is

1131
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 8: Aaron Rodgers, I'm always cautiously optimistic with him. I feel like, yes,

1132
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 8: you can hear some of the rumblings about Okay, yeah,

1133
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 8: they're have had communication. Yeah, the visit was great. Yes,

1134
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 8: the contract has been out there all right. Now we're

1135
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 8: just waiting to see what the scenario is. But everything

1136
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 8: is pointing to and leaning to him signing. But everybody

1137
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 8: knows it's not a done deal until it's a done deal.

1138
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 8: And the problem that I have with the whole scenario

1139
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 8: is with this, the Steelers have definitely exposed themselves to

1140
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 8: a lot of potential negativity.

1141
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 7: If Aaron Rodgers wakes up tomorrow and simply says I'll retire.

1142
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 8: Now, you're trying to figure out what are the pieces,

1143
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 8: what's the next steps? And I think that that's the

1144
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:22,919
Speaker 8: part that when you're trying to chase one of these

1145
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 8: type of quarterbacks, right who's ultra proven. But at the

1146
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 8: same time, on the older side, you have to put

1147
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 8: yourself out there, and sometimes it can have a little

1148
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 8: bit of a bad repercussion to that.

1149
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 7: But hopefully for the black and goal, what this does

1150
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 7: work out and Aaron Rice.

1151
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 8: Does actually sign, let me ask you, yes, there is

1152
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 8: still a little under underlining doubt in there.

1153
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, where do they pivot? If it's not Aaron Rodgers,

1154
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 1: They're going to sign somebody else. Do they go to

1155
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 1: Atlanta and say, hey, Kirk Cousins is the guy, will

1156
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 1: take him off your hand? What's the pivot point? And

1157
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 1: where do they go to? If you're the Steelers and hey,

1158
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 1: nothing against Mason Rudolph, all that they need a guy,

1159
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 1: where did they go?

1160
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 8: Look me and you are speaking the same language in

1161
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 8: the sense of, yes, Mason Rudolph has he shown some

1162
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 8: production here, absolutely, But we all also saw him in

1163
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 8: Tennessee last year where he was competing with for Elevis,

1164
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 8: and that did not turn out to be the type

1165
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 8: of production that he would have hoped for. To me,

1166
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 8: I think that they still do to believe in Mason

1167
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 8: and will try to add pieces around him. And that's

1168
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 8: why you saw the rublands of a John new Smith

1169
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 8: potentially being on the trade market.

1170
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 2: Right.

1171
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 8: You also saw Gabe Davis recently pop up. He's supposed

1172
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 8: to be coming into town to visit on Wednesday. So

1173
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 8: the opposite of that scenario is you roll with Mason

1174
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:44,439
Speaker 8: and you try to build up what you can through

1175
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 8: free agency with whatever is available, trade what you want

1176
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 8: to trade.

1177
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 7: But as a whole, you start looking at twenty twenty.

1178
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 8: Six as the big year that you're gonna make a

1179
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 8: jump for the quarterback, and obviously, with the draft being

1180
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 8: in Pittsburgh, you get the entertainment element as well.

1181
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 7: But that's kind of how I see it going.

1182
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 8: I don't think they really want to invest in a

1183
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 8: Kirk Cousins just because the contract that Atlanta gave.

1184
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 7: Him a year ago, it's a bad deal.

1185
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 8: Let's be real, what he's making in comparison to the

1186
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:16,920
Speaker 8: production now, I'm going to need him to be forced

1187
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 8: multiplier to an extent that at this level he's not

1188
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 8: consistently put what he could do post Achilles injury. And

1189
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 8: I think that that's why all of us kind of

1190
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 8: looked at Atlanta a little crazy when they made the

1191
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 8: deal that they made and then turned around and drafted

1192
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 8: Michael Pennis.

1193
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and all indications are Atlanta wants whatever team might

1194
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 2: be interested to pay the bulk of the salary that

1195
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 2: he's owed, including some of the guaranteed money, which is

1196
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 2: why a lot of teams have balked at that. You

1197
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 2: mentioned the John new Smith rumblings. There was traction last week,

1198
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 2: then it dies down and then Donald Parham has an

1199
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 2: achilles injury for the Steelers and OTAs he's done for

1200
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,919
Speaker 2: the year, and now talks have ramp back up because

1201
01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 2: they have a hole in their lineup. But my question

1202
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 2: to you about this are through what was the initial

1203
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 2: impetus for trying to acquire John hus Smith. It's not

1204
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 2: like they don't have a pass catching tight end in

1205
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 2: Pat Fryermouth, all right, Parham was kind of more of

1206
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 2: the blocking type tight end. So what's the impetus here?

1207
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 2: Did they just want another weapon? Knowing they traded away

1208
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 2: George Pickens and they saw John Hu Smith as that

1209
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 2: what what was the impetus here to try to acquire

1210
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 2: him from the from the jump?

1211
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 8: Honestly, a lot of us internally had that question right there,

1212
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 8: it felt, And you'll be able to understand this. You

1213
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 8: already have Dawson Knox and then you turn around e

1214
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 8: draft Dalton king Ka and you're like, whoa, all right,

1215
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 8: we gotta say, you know tightenness already productive, you know

1216
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 8: you paid, but now you're bringing this other guy.

1217
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 7: What's this was going on?

1218
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 5: Here?

1219
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 7: Are you gonna go with the two tight end set?

1220
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 7: So to me, I took it as go with the

1221
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:51,919
Speaker 7: two tight ind set.

1222
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 8: You're trying to pair two athletic guys that you know

1223
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 8: range around that seven hundred eight hundred receiving yards type

1224
01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 8: of seasons, and with Arthur Smith no that he wants

1225
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 8: to run the football play action pass. Think about Tennessee

1226
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 8: Titans Ryan Tannehill, Derreck Henry. That was something that I

1227
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 8: thought that they will be trying to implement here with Muth.

1228
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 8: But then on top of that, when you talk about

1229
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 8: George Pickens being gone in terms of the trade, and

1230
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 8: I still look at this quarterback scenario and I say

1231
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 8: to myself, if I don't know if Aaron Rodgers is

1232
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 8: gonna be here, and I might have to go out

1233
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 8: there with Mason Rudolph or even six front rookie Will

1234
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 8: Howard who helps them more receivers that I gotta really

1235
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 8: be accurate and really have arm strength and timing and

1236
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 8: all this, or athletic tight ends who typically win faster. Now,

1237
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 8: it condenses the field because you're playing with a lot

1238
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 8: bigger personnel groupings. But to an extent, it does simplify

1239
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 8: what you're gonna see coverage wise for these quarterbacks because

1240
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 8: you're not getting exotic deepens when you have big linebackers

1241
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 8: out there on the field.

1242
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:53,440
Speaker 7: No you're gonna get.

1243
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 8: Cover one, Cover three, maybe some cover four, but as

1244
01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 8: a whole, it's a vanilla's style just because of the

1245
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 8: person groups. And I think that that's something that the

1246
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 8: Steels were eye in potentially with that John new Smith trade.

1247
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 1: How close are the Steelers with redoing TJ. Watts deal.

1248
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 1: We know that they're working on it, and you know,

1249
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 1: obviously it's both sides are very amicable. They've got a

1250
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 1: lot of love and respect. There's cap hits already thirty

1251
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 1: point four million. What do they do?

1252
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 8: The problem is this, there are two pass rushers that

1253
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 8: got paid this offseason, Max Crosby and Miles Garrett.

1254
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 7: You look at what.

1255
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 8: They with their contracts were and what that did to

1256
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 8: the market for past rushers.

1257
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 2: TJ.

1258
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 8: Watt historically has been on part and a lot of

1259
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 8: people view them. You TJ, as the more productive and

1260
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 8: better player of those three. But when you look at

1261
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 8: what Miles is getting in terms of forty and a

1262
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 8: half million dollars, you.

1263
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 7: Thirty thirty eight million type range. If you're TJ.

1264
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 8: Watt, now you're stuck with the dilemma of do I

1265
01:04:57,640 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 8: take what I view as my market value and if

1266
01:04:59,920 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 8: you you as a better player than those guys.

1267
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 7: How do you take anything less than for you?

1268
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's from the team.

1269
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 8: And they're saying, hey, we need you to save somebody.

1270
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 8: Take a little bit less. We could add personnel around you.

1271
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 8: I think that's the dilemma.

1272
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 7: But for teaching.

1273
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 8: To me, I still think he's one of the best

1274
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 8: in the world at the position and he should be

1275
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 8: paid accordingly.

1276
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. Last one here, you mentioned Gabe Davis coming in

1277
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 2: on a free agent visit. Do you think that that

1278
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 2: is contingent upon what unfolds with John new Smith? Because

1279
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 2: I tend to believe here what we're looking at is

1280
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 2: John new Smith is option A, Gabe Davis's option B

1281
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 2: if the John neu Smith thing falls apart. Do you

1282
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 2: kind of see it that way?

1283
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 8: Honestly, I do, and I think the timing kind of

1284
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 8: reflects that as well. You think about when the interests

1285
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 8: first popped up about the John new Smith trade. I

1286
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 8: believe it was what Ian Rappingford was talking about it,

1287
01:05:57,560 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 8: and then from there it was like, okay, it's starting

1288
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 8: to get more legs, like you said, died down and

1289
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 8: then the injury happens to palm and then boom, we're

1290
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 8: right back here with Gabe Davis. Remember when he was

1291
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 8: released initially, there wasn't a ton of hey man, go

1292
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:12,640
Speaker 8: call him up, bring him in for a visit.

1293
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 7: So to me, I do look at this, and I say.

1294
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 8: All right, you have a George Pickens trade, you have

1295
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 8: a injury in training camp.

1296
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 7: You're trying to get a trade done with John new Smith.

1297
01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 7: But if the.

1298
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:26,240
Speaker 8: Ticket, in terms of the asking prices too much, it's

1299
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:28,200
Speaker 8: a lot easier to get Gave Davis, who was a

1300
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 8: free agent right now, and you're gonna be able to

1301
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 8: get him cheaper on top of that, just because of

1302
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 8: him being released off of the year that he had,

1303
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 8: whereas John new Smith you have to give up a

1304
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 8: draft pick and then you're gonna still have.

1305
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 7: To pay him at least what seven eight, maybe even

1306
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:45,120
Speaker 7: ten million dollars just based off of him coming off

1307
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 7: of a Pro Bowl season.

1308
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 8: So yeah, I do think that Gave Davis is the

1309
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 8: second option, but I don't think that it's necessarily a

1310
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 8: bad option because he is a productive player winning the

1311
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 8: right scenario.

1312
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I was thinking too, like you run him

1313
01:06:57,680 --> 01:06:59,440
Speaker 2: out of the slot as a big target, you can

1314
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 2: almost use them similar to the way you would use

1315
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 2: a tight end. Arthur. Thanks for the time. We appreciate

1316
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 2: it. It was good to catch up with you. Enjoy your summer.

1317
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 2: We'll probably catch up with you end the fall.

1318
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 8: Absolutely, man, I appreciate both of you guys. Always good

1319
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 8: to see y'all.

1320
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:18,919
Speaker 2: All right, thanks our former Bills and Steelers linebacker Arthur

1321
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 2: Motes joining us giving us the low down on the

1322
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 2: Steelers off season, which seems like it still has some

1323
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 2: boxes to check, most notably quarterback, but then looks like

1324
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:30,640
Speaker 2: some of their skill positions where they want to add too.

1325
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:32,760
Speaker 2: I got some work to do there.

1326
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 1: I think I see Aaron Rodgers in their future. I

1327
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:38,919
Speaker 1: really do. I think what he said, I'd never really

1328
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 1: thought about it, all the drama around the off season

1329
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:46,360
Speaker 1: activities that accompanied him when he was there for the

1330
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 1: OTAs and then was not there for the mini camp,

1331
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 1: and he says, you know what, I'm gonna just bypass

1332
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:53,440
Speaker 1: all of that.

1333
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 2: All sign Oh you remember the prew haha that was

1334
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:58,480
Speaker 2: the skipping of the mini camp last year with the Jets.

1335
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 1: Jets. Yeah, it was a big, big and he'd already

1336
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:04,280
Speaker 1: told him weeks before, hey, I'm not going to be there. Well,

1337
01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 1: then when the media finds out. Then it's like they're

1338
01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:09,040
Speaker 1: are all up in arms. Yeah, just you know what side.

1339
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:10,919
Speaker 1: I don't have to be there, No, thank you, I'll

1340
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 1: just wait.

1341
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 2: I don't have to be there. Yeah.

1342
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:16,720
Speaker 1: A guy with his experience, he doesn't need that. I mean,

1343
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 1: certainly it'll help, but man, trust what training camps.

1344
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 2: For get some and gave Davis. You know, if you're

1345
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 2: looking to add a tight end and then you can't

1346
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 2: gave Davis is the closest thing to a tight end

1347
01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 2: without being one, because he's a great blocker in the

1348
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:32,479
Speaker 2: run game, which you could would expect Arthur Smith to respect.

1349
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 2: And like I said, and they had brief flirtations here

1350
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 2: with the Bills putting him in the slot and working

1351
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:40,800
Speaker 2: him there just because he's a big body inside and

1352
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:45,000
Speaker 2: he's a tough matchup for tiny little nickel corners. They

1353
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 2: briefly used him there and had some success. I remember

1354
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 2: one game they lined him up inside a lot more

1355
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 2: and he had his best production in about six weeks,

1356
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 2: and then it went away and they never used him

1357
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 2: in there again. That's an option that you could turn

1358
01:08:57,160 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 2: to if you're the Steelers and you can't get the

1359
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 2: tight end. But we'll see what happen.

1360
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think, yeah, they're still trying to piece

1361
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:04,479
Speaker 1: together some pretty key elements of their offense, and starting

1362
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 1: with the quarterback of course, But yeah, they're I think

1363
01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:13,840
Speaker 1: generally speaking, at least on the offensive side of the ball.

1364
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:17,160
Speaker 1: They need some they want some better players on that

1365
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:17,800
Speaker 1: side of the ball.

1366
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:21,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, back to our topic of discussion, which is which

1367
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 2: Bills twenty twenty five non playoff opponent concerns you the most. Eighth, three, five,

1368
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:29,040
Speaker 2: fifty is the number to jump on board, and we

1369
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 2: go back to the phones and to Bobby and Buffalo.

1370
01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 2: What's up, Bobby?

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01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:34,439
Speaker 9: Hi, how are you sir?

1372
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:35,120
Speaker 2: Good?

1373
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 9: Good? Chris, listen by looking at the Bills schedule again, Okay,

1374
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:47,640
Speaker 9: number one, Chris, it's two teams on this on this

1375
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:53,920
Speaker 9: schedule that I'm really concerned about. Okay, I agree with

1376
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 9: you on one of them. That would be their December

1377
01:09:56,920 --> 01:10:02,559
Speaker 9: seventh opponent, which is the Cincinnati Bengals. Okay, uh, listen,

1378
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:07,560
Speaker 9: because the reason why that I'm concerned about the Cincinnati

1379
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 9: Bengals is because you know, I do believe that Joe

1380
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:18,760
Speaker 9: Burrow has a point to prove, Okay, right along with

1381
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 9: Josh Allen, Because if you remember the time when Cincinnati

1382
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:24,760
Speaker 9: came in here and you know it is that I

1383
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 9: believe that was the divisional playoff game where they came

1384
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 9: in here and and they beat the Bills. Okay, now, no,

1385
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:37,400
Speaker 9: I'm I'm concerned about that, Okay, but I'm also concerned

1386
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:41,000
Speaker 9: about a division opponent because of one of the callers

1387
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:44,720
Speaker 9: I heard earlier. I heard Butch earlier say the New

1388
01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 9: York Jets. If Brich is listening now, I would tell him, no, sir,

1389
01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:55,519
Speaker 9: that's the New York Jets are the least of my

1390
01:10:55,760 --> 01:11:00,280
Speaker 9: concerns in in the in the AFC East. Now, the

1391
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:04,479
Speaker 9: two teams that I'm concerned about within the division are

1392
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:08,559
Speaker 9: number one, the New England Patriots and of course the

1393
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 9: Miami Dolphins. Okay, listen that there are no other teams

1394
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 9: with them the AFC East that I'm really concerned about.

1395
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 9: So so those really are the teams that the non

1396
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:27,880
Speaker 9: playoff opponents that I'm really most concerned about is the

1397
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:33,720
Speaker 9: Cincinnati Bengals and the New England Patriots. Okay, I'll hang up.

1398
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 9: I'll hang up and listen to your answers.

1399
01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:41,920
Speaker 2: Akank, Bobby appreciate you. I'll try to make you feel

1400
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:45,000
Speaker 2: a little bit better about the Cincinnati matchup. Number one,

1401
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 2: it's at home, and number two, the week before the

1402
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:52,880
Speaker 2: Bengals are at Baltimore, So that's going to be a

1403
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:56,720
Speaker 2: rockham Soccam Division game for the Bengals. And then they

1404
01:11:56,800 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 2: got to come here. So your hope is that Baltimore

1405
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 2: softens them up for you a little bit and then

1406
01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:06,680
Speaker 2: you get them here coming off a game at Baltimore.

1407
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:12,759
Speaker 2: Look those NFC North games, they are entertaining football because

1408
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 2: those teams are pounding on each other. I mean, it

1409
01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 2: is known as the Black and Blue Division for a reason.

1410
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 2: So you get them after they play them on the road.

1411
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:23,760
Speaker 2: I think that's favorable for This will be a.

1412
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 1: Second straight road game for them in that point too.

1413
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:28,320
Speaker 1: And I'll say this, we talked about this years ago

1414
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:31,599
Speaker 1: when when it happened, When when they played the Cincinnati

1415
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:36,720
Speaker 1: Bengals shortly after the Damar Hamlin's incident. You know, I

1416
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 1: thought going into that game, I thought I felt really

1417
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:41,640
Speaker 1: good about it because they'd beaten the Dolphins just a

1418
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:44,160
Speaker 1: week before. You remember all by the skin of their teeth,

1419
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:48,040
Speaker 1: by the skin of their teeth with Skyler quarterbacks. This

1420
01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:53,480
Speaker 1: team was absolutely done. It was absolutely emotionally exhausted. They were,

1421
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 1: they were nowhere near ready to play a football game.

1422
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:02,880
Speaker 1: Incredibly different, dificult situation when one of your teammates had

1423
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 1: to be you know, revived on the field right there,

1424
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:09,760
Speaker 1: They stopped the game. The game never happened. They it

1425
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 1: was just it was a horrific scene and the team

1426
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:14,800
Speaker 1: wasn't the same. They weren't the same the rest of.

1427
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:18,240
Speaker 2: They playing the very same team that that incident happened

1428
01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:19,639
Speaker 2: against just three weeks later.

1429
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:22,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. It was a bad scene of the

1430
01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:24,320
Speaker 1: Bills were just done. They were done before the game

1431
01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:26,800
Speaker 1: ever started. I don't know if anybody knew it. I

1432
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:29,040
Speaker 1: certainly didn't see it coming, but I could when I

1433
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:33,120
Speaker 1: started watching it and getting a gist of the Bills

1434
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 1: team I knew was there and the one that showed up,

1435
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:39,280
Speaker 1: there was no there was just no coming back from

1436
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:44,840
Speaker 1: the Damar incident. And so that is it's a tough.

1437
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:47,479
Speaker 1: You know, we're talking about how good the Cincinnati Bengals

1438
01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:49,280
Speaker 1: have been against the Bills, and you know, they looked

1439
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:51,639
Speaker 1: good early in the Damar game, and then they looked

1440
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:54,200
Speaker 1: really good in the Divisional round, like three weeks later.

1441
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 1: They were not playing the Buffalo Bills team in that

1442
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 1: second match, So it'll be interesting to see how it goes.

1443
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:06,680
Speaker 1: I do agree though, they're a scary team because they

1444
01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:11,160
Speaker 1: can score on anybody. They got some guys, and that's

1445
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:14,599
Speaker 1: why I think a lot of fans and guys like us.

1446
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 1: I think, you know, you can't run off and leave them. Yeah,

1447
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:18,760
Speaker 1: you know, So we'll see.

1448
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:23,000
Speaker 2: Bobby is the first guy to mention Miami, which you

1449
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:25,600
Speaker 2: know has been a team that has been able to

1450
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 2: score points too.

1451
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 1: Bobby's got some scar tissue for me.

1452
01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 4: Well.

1453
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think we shouldn't forget that it took

1454
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:34,639
Speaker 2: a sixty one yard field goal to beat the Dolphins

1455
01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:39,680
Speaker 2: the second time this past season at the Gun. I

1456
01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 2: still remember talking to you right after that game on

1457
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:46,120
Speaker 2: Monday Show after that victory, and we were saying, that

1458
01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:50,760
Speaker 2: is the best game the Dolphins have played against this

1459
01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:53,759
Speaker 2: iteration of the Bills in quite some time. You probably

1460
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:55,880
Speaker 2: have to go all the way back to lost. You

1461
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 2: probably have to go all the way back to the

1462
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:01,439
Speaker 2: Heatstroke game, you know, the start of the twenty one season.

1463
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:03,920
Speaker 1: They didn't play as well in the Heatstroke games they

1464
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:05,440
Speaker 1: did against us in the loss.

1465
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:09,720
Speaker 2: Here, Yeah, it was probably the best they could have

1466
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 2: played against the Bills and they lose on a last

1467
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:14,880
Speaker 2: second field goal from sixty one yards out. I mean,

1468
01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:18,200
Speaker 2: Tyler Bass save the Bills Bacon in that game. So

1469
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:23,240
Speaker 2: I understand why Bobby has, you know, some concerns regarding

1470
01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:25,840
Speaker 2: that team, because on a good day, that team can

1471
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:29,400
Speaker 2: ring up points as good as anybody. But it's it's

1472
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 2: hard not to feel like there's been a shift within

1473
01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:37,800
Speaker 2: that organization. They're looking to dump Jalen Ramsey on some

1474
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:40,240
Speaker 2: other team right now, a guy they just handed a

1475
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:43,120
Speaker 2: giant contract extension last year at this time, and we

1476
01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:46,240
Speaker 2: all said that's stupid, and now it's proof that it is,

1477
01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:50,200
Speaker 2: because they're trying to throw them overboard. They still have

1478
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:52,759
Speaker 2: some of their best pass rushers coming off major injuries,

1479
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 2: Bradley Chubb, Jalen Phillips, Jop Robinson's a promising player. Devon

1480
01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:00,680
Speaker 2: a Chan is a talented player who is a headache

1481
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 2: for any defense because of his blazing speed. But there

1482
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 2: are some things that are not right there culturally, players

1483
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:12,679
Speaker 2: going coming to meetings late, getting fined, and still coming

1484
01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:15,640
Speaker 2: to meetings late. It just seems like there's an inherent

1485
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:19,680
Speaker 2: disrespect for that head coach and it doesn't feel like

1486
01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:21,840
Speaker 2: he's got enough support in that locker room. And then

1487
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:24,080
Speaker 2: the ultimate problem with that team is their quarterback can't

1488
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:25,840
Speaker 2: get through a seventeen game season healthy.

1489
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, he played two years ago. He played every game,

1490
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 1: started every game. Remember he was Chubby Tua when he

1491
01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:34,160
Speaker 1: gained the weight, and he made it all the way

1492
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:36,960
Speaker 1: through the season, although it didn't translate into.

1493
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:39,120
Speaker 2: I mean, he was practicing how to fall down properly

1494
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:40,720
Speaker 2: so he wouldn't get hurt. Remember if the.

1495
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:45,320
Speaker 1: Taekwondo, Yes, I remember they their off season plan was

1496
01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:47,560
Speaker 1: to give to a new helmet and learn how to

1497
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:50,479
Speaker 1: fall teach him how to get kicked.

1498
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:53,760
Speaker 2: You know, that was their plan. That was their plan

1499
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 2: instead of drafting five offensive teach.

1500
01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:57,600
Speaker 1: To how to take a punch and get him a

1501
01:16:57,600 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 1: new helmet to.

1502
01:16:58,120 --> 01:17:01,599
Speaker 2: Ron Armstead is retired. They have Patrick Paul, a former

1503
01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:04,960
Speaker 2: draft choice, penciled in at the left tackle position. There's

1504
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:08,680
Speaker 2: no promises that's gonna work either. So there's I have

1505
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 2: the Dolphins on my list of top three teams to

1506
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:13,479
Speaker 2: implode this season. I wouldn't be surprised if they're in

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01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:15,360
Speaker 2: the basement of this division at the end of the year.

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01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 1: This is the team that got one of the all

1509
01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:21,640
Speaker 1: time well one of the currently really elite defensive coordinators,

1510
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:24,360
Speaker 1: and the players got him fired because he coached him hard.

1511
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:27,679
Speaker 1: They got, they got, They got a reputation now being

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01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:29,480
Speaker 1: really soft players.

1513
01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:33,880
Speaker 2: And their secondary is a mess. They and the big player,

1514
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:35,439
Speaker 2: Javon Holland is somewhere else.

1515
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 1: That defensive coordinator subsequently went to Philadelphia and won the

1516
01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:42,360
Speaker 1: World Championship the very next year. The very next year,

1517
01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 1: they're defensive coordinator. If the players got fired won the

1518
01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:53,679
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. That that to me, does everything but strike

1519
01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:54,640
Speaker 1: fear into my heart about that.

1520
01:17:54,920 --> 01:17:56,599
Speaker 2: It might say more about the Dolphins than it does

1521
01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:57,439
Speaker 2: about the Eagles.

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01:17:57,560 --> 01:17:57,960
Speaker 1: That's right.

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01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:00,439
Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here. More of your phone calls

1524
01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:02,679
Speaker 2: when we return, as we're asking you, which bills twenty

1525
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 2: twenty five non playoff opponent concerns you the most? Ato

1526
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:08,760
Speaker 2: three oh five fifty were your phone calls next year

1527
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live Stay with.

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01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:26,920
Speaker 10: Us all Right, Which bills twenty twenty five non playoff

1529
01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:28,519
Speaker 10: opponent concerns you the most?

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01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:32,439
Speaker 2: Had some interesting submissions thus far. Cincinnati probably the front

1531
01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:36,400
Speaker 2: runner right now, Atlanta was mentioned, as well as New

1532
01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 2: England and Miami. Even the Jets were mentioned a shout.

1533
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:43,519
Speaker 2: It's kind of been the rundown thus far. But let's

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01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:44,479
Speaker 2: get back to the phones.

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Speaker 1: The division opponents kind of rise up because we played twice.

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01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:50,240
Speaker 2: Familiarity games are usually closer, a little more of a

1537
01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:52,599
Speaker 2: nail biter. But let's get back to the phones at

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01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:55,719
Speaker 2: Ato three oh five fifty one eighty eight, five fifty two,

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01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:59,840
Speaker 2: five point fifty. And to Judy and Buffalo, what's up Judy?

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01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:03,880
Speaker 11: Well, you know, we are facing five quality teams in

1541
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 11: our schedule and we need to win at least three

1542
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:10,719
Speaker 11: of those games. I think the two most important ones

1543
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:15,320
Speaker 11: are the Baltimore Ravens and the Kansas City Chiefs, because

1544
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:16,640
Speaker 11: if the Bills are going to make it to the

1545
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:21,920
Speaker 11: super Bowl, they have got secure the bye week. It

1546
01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:25,200
Speaker 11: makes all the difference in the world. Okay, you know,

1547
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:28,160
Speaker 11: I'm not naive to say that we can't lose with

1548
01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:30,840
Speaker 11: some other team. I still think we'll have a good

1549
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:35,080
Speaker 11: winning record this year. But when you go up against

1550
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:38,960
Speaker 11: those best teams, you have got to show that you

1551
01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:40,960
Speaker 11: have the prowess to beat them.

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01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:42,479
Speaker 6: And those two.

1553
01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:45,240
Speaker 11: Games I think are highly important in our schedule.

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01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:49,400
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, hard to argue that. Steve was talking about

1555
01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:52,679
Speaker 2: it the other day with me off air, just saying

1556
01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:55,040
Speaker 2: the builds got to come in this year and just

1557
01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:59,800
Speaker 2: say we're gunning for the one seat. Uh, you said it, Judy.

1558
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 2: It has an untold amount of significance and it pays off.

1559
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:09,360
Speaker 2: Look at the Chiefs, what have they made for the

1560
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:13,320
Speaker 2: last five Super Bowls? Why? Because they always get the

1561
01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:16,759
Speaker 2: number one seed. It's one less game they've got to play.

1562
01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:20,599
Speaker 2: That means one less game you're risking injury. One less game,

1563
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:24,280
Speaker 2: you're risking some unforeseen circumstance happening in a game where

1564
01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:27,439
Speaker 2: maybe you just have fumble lightest and you have four

1565
01:20:27,439 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 2: turnovers and you lose a game you shouldn't. That's all

1566
01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:32,160
Speaker 2: off the table because you're not playing.

1567
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:35,439
Speaker 1: That's right. Those teams that I was on, we had

1568
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:37,599
Speaker 1: the number one seed three of the four Super Bowls

1569
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:40,080
Speaker 1: that we went to. That's not by accident, it's not

1570
01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:42,880
Speaker 1: it's not by and it makes a huge difference. That

1571
01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:46,240
Speaker 1: week's vague. I call it a vacation. You don't have

1572
01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:46,519
Speaker 1: to play.

1573
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 2: Well, it's a free ticket to the divisional round.

1574
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:52,720
Speaker 1: That's right, and it's it's huge. It just feels like

1575
01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:55,200
Speaker 1: a total refresher think about this too. You wouldn't have

1576
01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:58,919
Speaker 1: Christian Benford wouldn't have gotten a concussion in the wild card.

1577
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:00,000
Speaker 2: Round, extra week to rest.

1578
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:03,080
Speaker 1: If you forget about getting a week's rest, he wouldn't

1579
01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:05,960
Speaker 1: have got injured and he had to come back quick

1580
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:08,680
Speaker 1: and then got got you know, brushed up against in

1581
01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:11,200
Speaker 1: the first quarter of the Chiefs game. You know he's

1582
01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 1: right back off the field. All that stuff's off the table.

1583
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:20,040
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a totally risk free week when everybody's

1584
01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:26,200
Speaker 1: on do or Die watch when you're not. That's yes,

1585
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:30,280
Speaker 1: you're right, Judy. If I think that has to be

1586
01:21:30,479 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 1: a goal for the team, certainly, I mean that's always

1587
01:21:33,160 --> 01:21:35,759
Speaker 1: like win the division. Okay, I think for the Bills,

1588
01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:38,599
Speaker 1: it's like get the one seed, get the one seed,

1589
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:40,720
Speaker 1: and there's no guarantees.

1590
01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:44,559
Speaker 2: And to Judy's point, you're gonna probably need head to

1591
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:47,760
Speaker 2: head tie breakers against Baltimore and Kansas City, who are

1592
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:51,000
Speaker 2: expected to be your stiffest competition in the conference.

1593
01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:52,320
Speaker 1: For me, and I don't I don't want to, you know,

1594
01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:54,120
Speaker 1: I don't want to throw all my push, all my

1595
01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:57,320
Speaker 1: chips to the table because it's you know, Week one

1596
01:21:57,560 --> 01:22:02,120
Speaker 1: is is enormous. It's a huge Baltimore is gonna be

1597
01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:06,520
Speaker 1: extremely motivated and they're gonna come into Buffalo on primetime

1598
01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:09,240
Speaker 1: and it's and they are gonna want to make amends

1599
01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:11,400
Speaker 1: for a bad loss they took here in the playoffs

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01:22:11,479 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 1: last year. A couple of and it's a couple of

1601
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:18,000
Speaker 1: bad losses. The Bills in the playoffs have been to

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01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:20,000
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens a couple of times. What the Chiefs

1603
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:23,160
Speaker 1: are to the Bills. Yeah, I mean the Tarreon Johnson

1604
01:22:23,240 --> 01:22:25,280
Speaker 1: game in twenty twenty where he picked it off and

1605
01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:27,360
Speaker 1: went one hundred and one yards to me. One of

1606
01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:30,559
Speaker 1: the high one of the to the last moments, top

1607
01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 1: five moments in all the Bills history in this building

1608
01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:37,960
Speaker 1: was Taron Johnson. Because the drought that we didn't have

1609
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:41,200
Speaker 1: any in the drought and man for twenty five years,

1610
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:44,920
Speaker 1: they never had a play like this and Tarren Johnson

1611
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:46,479
Speaker 1: picks it off and goes one hundred and one the

1612
01:22:46,520 --> 01:22:50,240
Speaker 1: other way. There's sixty five hundred people in the building

1613
01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:52,240
Speaker 1: and you couldn't hear it.

1614
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:54,519
Speaker 2: Al Michaels It even said it on the telegion.

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01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:56,280
Speaker 1: It was crazy. I was in I was doing the

1616
01:22:56,320 --> 01:22:58,280
Speaker 1: games that year because Eric would couldn't travel to do

1617
01:22:58,320 --> 01:22:59,759
Speaker 1: the game. So they had me doing it with Murphy,

1618
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:02,880
Speaker 1: you know, back, and it was it was all I

1619
01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:06,320
Speaker 1: could do not to to jump up and down and

1620
01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:08,960
Speaker 1: scream and hoot and holler so Murph could make the call.

1621
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:15,080
Speaker 1: I was I was losing my mind. And those plays

1622
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:17,160
Speaker 1: are what's gonna stick with the Baltimore Ravens. You can

1623
01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:19,680
Speaker 1: bet John Harball show him that, and he'll show them

1624
01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:22,000
Speaker 1: the drop pass at the gold line last year, the

1625
01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:24,000
Speaker 1: fumbled you know, the three fumbles they had in the

1626
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:26,240
Speaker 1: first half last year. He's gonna show them all of that.

1627
01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:31,000
Speaker 1: They're gonna show up here smoking hot, and you're gonna

1628
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:32,720
Speaker 1: have to deal with that. So if you can do

1629
01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:37,040
Speaker 1: that as a club man, that it says something about

1630
01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:39,519
Speaker 1: you very early in the season, about where you could

1631
01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:42,559
Speaker 1: head in this in this in this year. But the

1632
01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 1: one seed has to be on the table for the Bills.

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01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:48,639
Speaker 2: I am old enough to remember that. In reverse. Bills

1634
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 2: lose the Music City Miracle game Sunday Night Football Week

1635
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:57,800
Speaker 2: one here against the Tennessee Titans, and the Bills had

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01:23:57,840 --> 01:24:03,360
Speaker 2: a roster perge Thurman, Thomas Bruce Smith, Andre Reid all

1637
01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 2: lopped off the roster in the offseason in a salary

1638
01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:13,040
Speaker 2: cap purge, and you know, there we are. They still

1639
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:16,600
Speaker 2: won the game sixteen thirteen tight contest, or maybe it

1640
01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:19,000
Speaker 2: was the next year that they got chopped off the roster.

1641
01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:21,479
Speaker 2: I'm not going to remember the years are the years

1642
01:24:21,479 --> 01:24:24,840
Speaker 2: are blending together. But to make a long story short,

1643
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:28,040
Speaker 2: the ninety nine Bills team was much stronger than the

1644
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:31,000
Speaker 2: two thousand Bills team and they still won the game.

1645
01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:34,720
Speaker 2: It's my point against the defending AFC champs in Week one.

1646
01:24:35,360 --> 01:24:39,920
Speaker 2: So the motivation, I've seen it on both sides. So yes,

1647
01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:41,920
Speaker 2: I'm agreeing with you that they were.

1648
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:45,720
Speaker 1: And I know other squad other sports boasts this as well.

1649
01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:52,600
Speaker 1: Home field advantage, Okay, being highly motivated. Yeah, in football,

1650
01:24:54,680 --> 01:24:59,320
Speaker 1: it's essential. You will get embarrassed by a three and

1651
01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:03,760
Speaker 1: thirteen squad if you don't show up mentally ready. You

1652
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:06,679
Speaker 1: can't just show up and play and win.

1653
01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:10,280
Speaker 2: It's not with a team of that caliber either.

1654
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:15,080
Speaker 1: It's just too difficult to win. So you get a

1655
01:25:15,080 --> 01:25:17,559
Speaker 1: team that's really talented and really good, got an MVP

1656
01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:22,200
Speaker 1: caliber quarterback like Baltimore, and they show up wired, you

1657
01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:23,000
Speaker 1: better buckle up.

1658
01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:23,280
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1659
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's hop over to the tweet sheet to see

1660
01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:28,160
Speaker 2: what you have to say there. Tweet sheet brought to

1661
01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:30,920
Speaker 2: by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company of

1662
01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:34,000
Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills, Which Bills twenty twenty five non playoff

1663
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 2: opponent concerns you the most, Lily says the Bengals for

1664
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:40,200
Speaker 2: some reason, since he has had Buffalo's number. Yeah, the

1665
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:42,760
Speaker 2: Bills are one in three against the Bengals and the

1666
01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:46,160
Speaker 2: Sean McDermott era. Don't need to say anything more there.

1667
01:25:46,280 --> 01:25:49,400
Speaker 2: Roberts says the Falcons. I have a feeling that could

1668
01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:51,320
Speaker 2: come out of nowhere and be good this year. Yeah,

1669
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:56,760
Speaker 2: there's fair reason to feel that way. Pennix was encouraging

1670
01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:58,880
Speaker 2: with his play as a rookie last year. Now he

1671
01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:02,000
Speaker 2: comes in as the ENTR starter. He's got a boatload

1672
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:04,960
Speaker 2: of weapons around him. It's really just there. They kind

1673
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:07,600
Speaker 2: of have a similar problem to what the Bengals have.

1674
01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:10,200
Speaker 2: They got to fix their defense, and they tried to

1675
01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:12,559
Speaker 2: do that this offseason to a certain extent. Have they

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01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:15,960
Speaker 2: done enough. We may know by Week five and that

1677
01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:17,960
Speaker 2: Monday night game. We may know by that.

1678
01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:19,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1679
01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:22,160
Speaker 2: Rick says, I think New England will give the Bills

1680
01:26:22,160 --> 01:26:24,559
Speaker 2: fits this year. Buffalo has been the AFC East top

1681
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:27,520
Speaker 2: dog the last five seasons, and the former division Champatriots

1682
01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:30,880
Speaker 2: are itching to reclaim the title. As Steve and I

1683
01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:33,880
Speaker 2: have said, they've I think they've got an uphill climb here.

1684
01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:36,320
Speaker 2: I mean, they were a four win team last year.

1685
01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:39,080
Speaker 2: They are much improved, They have a better coach, they

1686
01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:44,640
Speaker 2: have a better staff. How much can they gel it

1687
01:26:44,680 --> 01:26:48,519
Speaker 2: all together in one major offseason with a new system

1688
01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:53,960
Speaker 2: offensively and defensively. It's a lot to do in one year.

1689
01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:56,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. And even one of their wins, and

1690
01:26:56,400 --> 01:26:58,000
Speaker 1: one of their four wins was against the Bills in

1691
01:26:58,040 --> 01:27:00,960
Speaker 1: Week eighteen when the Bill's late down, Josh took one

1692
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:05,400
Speaker 1: snap and walked off. So they were struggling last year.

1693
01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:08,160
Speaker 1: But and let's face it, this thing about them having

1694
01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:10,519
Speaker 1: the title and winning that you know, like ten out

1695
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:13,080
Speaker 1: of eleven or whatever it was division titles during the

1696
01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:17,479
Speaker 1: Belichick years, nobody's there from that team. I mean, that

1697
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:20,240
Speaker 1: roster's been churned over the last two or three years.

1698
01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:24,120
Speaker 1: There's nobody there who remembers winning ten division titles. Vayble

1699
01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:28,439
Speaker 1: their head coach might have that, but those players are

1700
01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:32,200
Speaker 1: all about, you know, the hero, and now they want

1701
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:34,160
Speaker 1: to take the division title away from a team that's

1702
01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:36,200
Speaker 1: really earned it for five years and they know it's

1703
01:27:36,240 --> 01:27:37,360
Speaker 1: going to be a tough job to do it. So

1704
01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:40,639
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any added motivation because they were

1705
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:42,760
Speaker 1: the champs and the Bills took it from them as

1706
01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:43,599
Speaker 1: five years ago.

1707
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:48,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then finally Steve says, for me, the answer

1708
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:52,479
Speaker 2: is the Patriots because they're a familiar division opponent. Got

1709
01:27:52,479 --> 01:27:54,439
Speaker 2: to take a break here. We'll finish up with some

1710
01:27:54,439 --> 01:27:56,200
Speaker 2: final thoughts on the tweets sheet next year on one

1711
01:27:56,200 --> 01:28:14,600
Speaker 2: Bill's Live. Stay with Us all right back here on

1712
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:16,720
Speaker 2: one Bill's Live. One final segment to go and some

1713
01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:20,040
Speaker 2: final thoughts on the tweets sheeet just to complete the

1714
01:28:20,120 --> 01:28:24,639
Speaker 2: thought from Steve, who picked the Patriots being a familiar

1715
01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:26,880
Speaker 2: division opponent. He also said the addition to Mike Vrabel,

1716
01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:29,040
Speaker 2: who mostly gave us fits during his time with the Titans,

1717
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:30,960
Speaker 2: it's just a solid coach that has the ability to

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01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:33,479
Speaker 2: create close games with any opponent. Yes, he is good

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01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:38,400
Speaker 2: at that, a master of game management and time management.

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01:28:39,240 --> 01:28:43,479
Speaker 2: Joey says Pittsburgh because they still might get Rogers new England,

1721
01:28:43,479 --> 01:28:46,160
Speaker 2: new coach and staff, and better rosters since he hopefully

1722
01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:48,400
Speaker 2: no Hendrickson no one else scares me. Even if we

1723
01:28:48,439 --> 01:28:51,200
Speaker 2: lose these games. We're thirteen and four. He's chucking up

1724
01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:55,679
Speaker 2: everything else as a victim. And then uniforms and everything

1725
01:28:55,720 --> 01:28:58,559
Speaker 2: says the Jets. And then one final one that came

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01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:02,960
Speaker 2: in late from Tom Cincinnati because we typically don't play

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01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:05,840
Speaker 2: well against them. I will say the one missing element

1728
01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:08,360
Speaker 2: from Cincinnati from the last time the Bills have played them,

1729
01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:12,280
Speaker 2: Joe Mixon. You want to talk about it a tone setter,

1730
01:29:12,760 --> 01:29:14,840
Speaker 2: it's Joe Mixon, and they have looked like a different

1731
01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:17,840
Speaker 2: team without them. They still score points, but the swagger

1732
01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:18,960
Speaker 2: in the attitude is.

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01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:22,240
Speaker 1: What it used to be there. Yeah, nobody's worried about

1734
01:29:22,280 --> 01:29:26,760
Speaker 1: Joe turned around handing it off. So that changes it.

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01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:28,040
Speaker 1: It changes it vastly.

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01:29:28,320 --> 01:29:31,519
Speaker 2: So good contributions today. Thanks for all the phone calls,

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01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:34,559
Speaker 2: Thanks for all the tweets. We got a good feel

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01:29:34,680 --> 01:29:37,240
Speaker 2: for what Bills fans are concerned about with these non

1739
01:29:37,240 --> 01:29:39,960
Speaker 2: playoff opponents on the schedule. But man, it is a

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01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:42,960
Speaker 2: favorable way in which it lays out for sure. That's

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01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:45,280
Speaker 2: it for us today, Steve, and I'll catch you tomorrow

1742
01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:48,040
Speaker 2: for an obl Friday fan mail bag. Get your questions

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01:29:48,080 --> 01:29:49,759
Speaker 2: in for us we'll have the answers tomorrow