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Speaker 2: I gotta be here. I'm sure you tap then he'd

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: We don't have some success the last couple of weeks,

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Speaker 2: but we're trying to get it in.

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Speaker 3: Man, what you got to be here?

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Speaker 4: For sure? I got y'all. Y'all know what's going down

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Speaker 4: every day, downloaded.

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Speaker 3: Today literally going down, going down.

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Speaker 2: And if you get too bad on our line, all right,

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Speaker 2: man to my far left, we got my dog Bishop

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Speaker 2: be here after Prailes.

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Speaker 3: How you were nasty cool?

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Speaker 4: And now let's get to it, baby, I'm excited about

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Speaker 4: this one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: We all some real questions today. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: You're listen. We always talking about people.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, not necessarily forgotten, but who

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Speaker 2: got buckets and people ain't.

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Speaker 3: Two tapped in was like he.

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Speaker 2: Ain't back in the days, if you really knew it

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Speaker 2: was a real bucket for sure. Yeah, we're gonna have

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Speaker 2: some fun today. Man to my right, my dog young

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Speaker 2: not your young tig.

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Speaker 3: How you what cooling? Brother?

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Speaker 2: This is my NBA comparison. When I came into the league,

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Speaker 2: they did draft express. They told me I was like

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Speaker 2: Kevin Johnson. I was like, I don't know if I

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Speaker 2: got that much bounce. He was almost there. Alright, you

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Speaker 2: live up to him. You could have passed the ball

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Speaker 2: a little better. I could have could have slid feet

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Speaker 2: a little bit. You really wasn't in the passing lane.

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Speaker 3: It's like, what is you got him? The real breakdown?

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Speaker 3: Like we said, man, special guests in the building.

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Speaker 2: Man, come on, multi time All Star, multi time All NBA,

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Speaker 2: twelve years in the NBA and after that, my man

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Speaker 2: was Marrior, his hometown. Man, we got the legend mister

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Speaker 2: Kevin Johnson in the building, big dog. We appreciate you

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Speaker 2: sliding on his brother. Thank y'all for having men come home. Man.

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Speaker 2: We always talked about you want the forgotten buckets, bro,

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Speaker 2: one of the forgotten buckets at the NBA. We was

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Speaker 2: Katie Smith later that boy, we sent him hoighlights. You

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Speaker 2: have something against Kenny Smith because every time you see

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Speaker 3: You want to tell you what happened?

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Speaker 1: Please while we're here, so offer Sacramento. Yeah, Kenny Smith

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Speaker 1: same position. The Sacramento Kings picked Kenny Smith number six. Wow,

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Speaker 1: I go number seven in Cleveland. So I'm mad at

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Speaker 1: what the beef started way back then. Yeah, I played

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Speaker 3: Get Kenny. I got to make them regretless.

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Speaker 4: That is crazy that your hometown on grab you.

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Speaker 3: What I'm saying, that is wild. I went on Kenny.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't even his.

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Speaker 4: Fault, but you got to take it out on him.

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Speaker 3: Didn't know about this. It was the one time he

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Speaker 2: Like, did you ever say anything in the game like

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Speaker 1: So when I was growing up La New York, big markets,

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Speaker 3: But prior to that, Sacramento never got exposure.

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Speaker 4: The cav heard you play baseball too for a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was too sport played baseball in high school.

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Speaker 1: My first love. You hear this a lot. My first

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Speaker 1: So I chose. I chose basketball. It worked out and said,

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Speaker 1: I got drafted high got drafted, played in Cleveland for

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Speaker 4: How was that like draft process though? For the MLB?

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Speaker 4: For you, they just give you a call, do they

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I think I was unique.

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Speaker 1: I think because in high school I was gonna get drafted,

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Speaker 1: Then when I got to college, I played one year

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Speaker 1: So that was kind of my It was a little

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Speaker 1: but basketball was just it was just my calling, you

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Speaker 3: We always had this question, like what's harder hitting up baseball?

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Speaker 4: Good questions.

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Speaker 3: You think that's the hardest thing to do is to hit.

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Speaker 1: The baseball is hard? Yeah he said he can do it.

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Speaker 3: You think what we say it was harder like kicking

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Speaker 4: Or hitting the pressure of hitting the free throw like

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Speaker 1: No, the free which we know free throw is just repetiti.

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Speaker 1: You don't put your time in, you're gonna be good.

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Speaker 1: If you got mental discipline, focus all that. You don't

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Speaker 2: Who get up there on that line, boy, five percent

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Speaker 3: He made one. Yeah, but we was talking about the

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Speaker 1: because it is what it is. But I'm saying hitting

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Speaker 3: And that's a hard piss to hit.

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Speaker 1: So I had to go, I just start switch hitting, dang,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, bro, you gifted bro for you.

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Speaker 1: NBA.

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Speaker 2: That's crazy. I couldn't an look hand, that's crazy. I

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Speaker 2: never really heard too many basketball players though that baseball

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Speaker 3: It's usually like football and baseball. It's true.

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Speaker 1: But like, but like back in my era, Danny Ainge

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Speaker 1: He did so that I go back to that era

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Speaker 1: I could do it. So I had somebody that did

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Speaker 1: the time. But I think this is what most people know.

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Speaker 1: Y'all know this man athletes that are good, are good

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Speaker 1: in multiple things. It don't matter what it is. It

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Speaker 1: may not be to your point, baseball and basketball. It

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Speaker 1: could be basketball and football. You can't tell him you

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Speaker 1: can't do nothing. So that's what I'm say.

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Speaker 3: You can't tell him they play ping pong, they play pool.

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Speaker 1: There's just a lot of That's what athletes don't get

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Speaker 1: enough credit for. These brothers can ball at multiple things.

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Speaker 3: Ain't no doubt about it. Show it's getting the NFL player.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna see this to get mad because they always

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Speaker 3: Yeah they always said that, but it ain't true. Matter anyway.

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Speaker 2: Like you said, uh, college, going through that process killing?

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Speaker 4: Hey, you wouldn't know. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, but you

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Speaker 3: All right, man. You get drafted, obviously, said a cup

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Speaker 3: Wasn't nice to me in Cleveland.

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Speaker 3: I still got a couple more. Don't come out on this.

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Speaker 1: anything is So I had to get close enough that

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Speaker 3: So what happened here? Again? You know we players? You

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Speaker 1: Five plays before I penetrate, I passed, Charles goes up

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Speaker 1: King's blocks it. Next time I come down, I penetrate,

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Speaker 1: time you know we're going down. We're going from being

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Speaker 1: I penetrate, I passed it, Damn Marley go up the block.

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Speaker 3: I'm like all right, So I head in my head

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Speaker 3: right then like if I get.

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Speaker 1: A chance, I'm going for and we at home too,

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Speaker 1: because our crowd is starting to feel like this game

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Speaker 1: is getting away from us.

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Speaker 3: So I take a shot. It comes back.

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Speaker 1: Danny ain'ts gets it and tosses to me, and I

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Speaker 1: can see that I have a straight line to the basket.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Kenny was right here, Kenny, right here, Kenny.

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Speaker 1: You know I love you, but right here, push you

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Speaker 1: out the way. And I had a straight line to

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Speaker 1: the basket. And I knew a king was gonna take

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Speaker 1: me for granted, like he wasn't thinking that I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: come in here and try to He's not gonna think that.

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Speaker 1: So I knew the element of surprise was gonna be there.

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Speaker 1: So I go, I go, and he turned around. He

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Speaker 1: see me come over, and you know, I'm about to

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Speaker 1: get a fifth block in a row. And I go up.

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Speaker 1: He going up. We're going up. Then he start going down.

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Speaker 1: I'm still going bam right, and I do it. I

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Speaker 1: go crazy, the fans go crazy, everybody going crazy. King

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Speaker 1: on like this all into the corner. And then later

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Speaker 1: on he come up to me. It's like, you got me,

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Speaker 1: little mind, this is a king. Don't try it again,

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Speaker 1: little mind. I was cocky right like, thinking to myself

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Speaker 1: I only got to do it once and then I

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Speaker 1: went to the lod and you know, it was a

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Speaker 1: signature moment. We end up losing the series, but it

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Speaker 1: was it was it was a statement to let them

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Speaker 1: know that we weren't going to back away and we

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Speaker 1: meant business.

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Speaker 2: So and I'm representing the little guys there. Now, you

536
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Speaker 2: played both of these teams, not so fast word too much.

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Speaker 2: You played that Bulls nonay, obviously finals will talk about that, shorty.

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Speaker 2: You also play against that Rockets team. They always say

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Speaker 2: that gap year with MJ. You think that the Bulls

540
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Speaker 2: would have took care of that Rockets team. Yes, So

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Speaker 2: it's just Rockets fans who believe that basically because we

542
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Speaker 2: had mad Maxwell here, he's you know, man Max and

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Speaker 2: you want to business though he said, yeah, we didn't

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Speaker 2: handle up anyway.

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Speaker 3: I love here's what they hear the thing. Let get

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Speaker 3: my take.

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Speaker 1: So you know, we say this as athletes, every every team,

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Speaker 1: when you start a season, I think you can win

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Speaker 1: a championship, but only a few of them really know

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Speaker 1: they got a shot. We had a three year wind

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Speaker 1: window on Phoenix in my twelve years. We had a

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Speaker 1: three year window ninety two, ninety three, we lose to

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Speaker 1: the Bulls, which we can talk about. Ninety three, ninety

554
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Speaker 1: four we lose to Houston who won it. In ninety

555
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Speaker 1: four ninety five we lost to Houston who won it.

556
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Speaker 1: So that was our three year window. We lose to Chicago. Fine,

557
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Speaker 1: we up Houston three to one. Didn't nobody, even including

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Speaker 1: the Houston Rockets think they were gonna win that serious.

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Speaker 3: I'm walking around the mall into Galleria.

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Speaker 1: Man, the fans was like, oh my god, this team

561
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Speaker 1: is so lame and they didn't support them. They was

562
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Speaker 1: having playoff games in the fans wasn't even coming out,

563
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Speaker 1: so they forgot all that. So then they they win

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Speaker 1: a game pretty soon as three to three, they end

565
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Speaker 1: up beating us. The fans now on board, right, They

566
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Speaker 1: going crazy. And then they went on and did some

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Speaker 1: great work for two years in a row. But there

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Speaker 1: was a moment there that they were not that Shuston

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Speaker 1: Rockets team at that point. They became that Houston Rocket

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Speaker 1: team playing against us. And then went on and you know,

571
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Speaker 1: won two championship, did a great but I think we

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Speaker 1: all think I mean Chicago, until you beat them, you

573
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Speaker 1: can't say you would have beat them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that King was just so crazy though.

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I think that would have been a good matchup.

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 4: One of the best on the bite for him. Of

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Speaker 4: course they ain't had no bife for Jordan, but.

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Speaker 3: It'd have been a great match up. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Theakreem kem obviously the most skilled big man they ever

582
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Speaker 1: played a game in footwork.

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Speaker 3: Man, I'm gonna get you on the spot.

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Speaker 4: Man. Who was a better defender? Stockton or Gary Payton?

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Speaker 4: Gary Payton by landslide?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah? Who was harder to play it against? For me? Personally?

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Speaker 1: They both had their their strength, you know, Gary and

588
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Speaker 1: played and I played against the or he was at

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Speaker 1: Oregon State, yeah, and I was in Pac ten, so

590
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Speaker 1: we played them there.

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Speaker 3: I didn't like them, he didn't like me.

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Speaker 1: That's real talk, right, And then we in the pros

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Speaker 1: and I ain't like him then and we would just battle,

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Speaker 1: right and then time out. And I remember this really

595
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Speaker 1: funny story.

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Speaker 3: Danny Ainge was.

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Speaker 1: On our team and Gary Peyton scored and Gary Payton.

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Speaker 3: Said, you can't guard me.

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Speaker 1: You can't guard me, and Danny he said, we ain't

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Speaker 1: trying to guard you, Gary, you ain't got no offensive game.

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Speaker 3: And Gary went b circ.

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Speaker 1: At that point and and you know he got the

603
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Speaker 1: nickname the Glove because of how well he def you know,

604
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Speaker 1: how good a defender he was against me like his

605
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Speaker 1: doesn't gave him the nickname the glove because I couldn't

606
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Speaker 1: get away from him. So Gary was a And now

607
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 1: we talk more now than we did we play each other.

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Speaker 1: So I don't dislike him now, but when we play

609
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Speaker 1: each other, I don't like you. We like this, say't

610
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Speaker 1: like we friend buddy, buddy kissing all that, that's not it.

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Speaker 1: Now afterward Gary and I are mad pross respect. And

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Speaker 1: he was a tougher defensive player for me to guard

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Speaker 1: guard against or for him to guard me. Stockton was

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Speaker 1: tougher because their overall team approach and how they played.

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Speaker 1: They played you know, they had Slowan as a coach,

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Speaker 1: you had Karl Malone, and they was crafty and they

617
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Speaker 1: knew how to play good team defense in a way

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Speaker 1: that was was difficult for a point guard.

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Speaker 2: To play against as well. Now we'll get Barbie here

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Speaker 2: in a second. But John stock they said some assass

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Speaker 2: cooked the cook he was on the court is a cat.

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Speaker 3: That's why.

623
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Speaker 2: Because that assists record, it's crazy that his record, it

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Speaker 2: will never be touched.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he he. You know, going back, I didn't like

626
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Speaker 3: Stockton either, nobody.

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Speaker 1: Under sixty three, but like Stockton, man, we just had

628
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Speaker 1: these back. And again, you go back to our era

629
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Speaker 1: in the late eighties and nineties, the Western Conference was stacked.

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Speaker 1: You didn't have to kill this one team. You had

631
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Speaker 1: like six or seven deep. And Stockton and I and

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Speaker 1: you Talling Phoenix battled year after year after year. And

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Speaker 1: when we beat them in one playoff to advance, you know,

634
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Speaker 1: stock And call me afterwards and just said, man, I

635
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Speaker 1: just you're the best point of guarding the league. I

636
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Speaker 1: just want to give you your props. And I was

637
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Speaker 1: just like, so that professionalism, that even though we didn't

638
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Speaker 1: like each other, you can put that aside for a minute.

639
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Speaker 1: And that to me is what I learned from him

640
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: and other magic and other players too, that you can battle,

641
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Speaker 1: you can go at it, but there's a time to

642
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Speaker 1: give the respect. It don't have to be during the season,

643
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Speaker 1: it don't have to be during our career. But like

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Speaker 1: right now, that brother was legit. So I talked to

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Speaker 1: him probably about six months ago, for an hour on

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Speaker 1: the phone. That's more than I talked to him my

647
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Speaker 1: whole twelve years playing against him. That's because we was battling.

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Speaker 1: I ain't trying to be nice. I ain't trying to

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Speaker 1: ask about your family.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: I know're asking you about point guards, but like, and

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Speaker 2: you didn't like anybody on the sixtyer and I respect that,

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Speaker 2: But was there anyone when you like matched up?

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Speaker 3: It was like like Moms was like Derrick Crowz.

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Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, it's probably gonna be a bad

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Speaker 2: night tonight. Was it anybody like he was like, man,

657
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 2: not that you dread playing against, but you know he

658
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 2: was gonna have to be up for it, like what

659
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 2: it be?

660
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 3: Zeke? Any of them didn't like tim and I love

661
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 3: it because we would battle like crazy. You understand, back

662
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 3: got me, yeah, y'all he got me. Oh yeah, he

663
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 3: got me plenty of times.

664
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 1: Yeah that's why I like it, right, But but man,

665
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 1: those those man we just had battles. To your point,

666
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: I never thought that I was gonna play against a

667
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: point guard that I could not get the best of.

668
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: I just didn't. I could score, you know, I could score,

669
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: and I was athletic. I knew it was gonna battle.

670
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: I knew I had to go to sleep, and yeah,

671
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: the rest what I mean against against Gary Payton, against

672
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 1: Tim Hardaway, against John Stockton, of course Magic and Isaiah

673
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: against Terry Porter and Portland, Derek Harper and Dallas.

674
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 3: These are brothers. Man.

675
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,719
Speaker 1: It was just a physical game back then. So all

676
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: those guys, we was balling day in and day out

677
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: across the board.

678
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 3: So I had to get extra sleep against something.

679
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 2: And see some of them players though, like when I

680
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 2: met him when I got when I got in the

681
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 2: league or whatever.

682
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 3: Like see Derek Harper, I didn't know he was.

683
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 2: That big, yes, Like I'm like, he's six' six and

684
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 2: he was he was, strong like, big like a big.

685
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 2: Person i'm, LIKE i was like you, Playing he's like,

686
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 2: yao WOULD i would have put you on the?

687
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 3: Block You, Phil i'm like you? Sure what.

688
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 4: Did that kind of scare you a little bit when

689
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 4: you got to the league and see how big he

690
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 4: was or did you already know him prior to?

691
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 3: That LIKE.

692
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: I didn't know how big people were to your, point

693
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: AND i didn't know how athletic they, were so like

694
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: they play. College If jeff's right there and my Man

695
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: malcolm over, there If i'm about to pass it to,

696
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: him If i'm about to pass it to, him he

697
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: can't get to it in college because because of the

698
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: distance in the, pros he's so much, fast, durned, longer and,

699
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: quicker that same path is gonna get.

700
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 3: Intercepted SO i learned it out like.

701
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: Whoa not only were they bigger and, stronger the, athletic

702
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: the I q the time like all of. That, man

703
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: it just took me a minute to adjust because these

704
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: brothers can, play you, know and. NOWADAYS i mean it's

705
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: the skill level of these folks playing now is just

706
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: off the.

707
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 3: Chart we were just Watching womby earlier like. Women now

708
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 3: we're about to a Real.

709
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 2: Barbie, sorry keep you, waiting bar tender, man got us some,

710
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 2: drinks man while we're over here yapping No Liquior day.

711
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 2: Episode we're gonna keep it over the Best, Okay i'm,

712
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 2: okay thank, you unless you want to put it there

713
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 2: for a.

714
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 3: Product, Yeah, coon appreciate, you bar what's in?

715
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 2: Here women And.

716
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 3: Women's, okay appreciate. You.

717
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 2: Now we talked about the final, strip but before we get, there,

718
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 2: y'all squad that made that run to the finals was.

719
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 2: CRAZY i don't know if everybody's too, familiar but you, chuck,

720
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 2: like just go over that squad how. GOOD i think

721
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 2: y'll want to forgotten teams because y'all was really really.

722
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 3: Good it was.

723
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: Special, yeah we HAD i was the. Point, yeah you

724
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: Had Dan marley coming off as a two. Bounce you

725
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: Had Danny ainge coming off the bench at. Two then

726
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: we Had Chuck. Charles we Had Mark west And Oliver.

727
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: Miller Oliver, miller and then we Had Cedric sabalas in

728
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: the three, spots my, guy and Then Richard dumas in

729
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: the three, spot.

730
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 3: And THEN A. C green coming OFF ac and then

731
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 3: we Had Wayman.

732
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: Disday you, understand and we had then we Brought Danny

733
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: manning in in this three year spotman we had we

734
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: had the most talented squad.

735
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 3: Killer in the. League, YEAH A.

736
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: C green came, over so we just had a squad

737
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: man for those three. Years we had that window and

738
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: we couldn't get over the. Hump and you, know people

739
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: asked me all the time about what regrets DO i

740
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: have about playing in the, League AND i have one

741
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: now THAT i didn't have. Then it was LIKE i

742
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: didn't help as a point guard during those playoff runs

743
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: when some of my teammates were, Struggling not, me Not.

744
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: Charles we could always get our shots. Off but you

745
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: had someone like A Wayman tisdale or some other teammate

746
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: when they weren't, BAWLING i didn't figure out how to

747
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:24,320
Speaker 1: get them, involved to get them to where they normally.

748
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 1: Play that would have got us over to. Hump that's

749
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: SOMETHING i regret. Deeply AND i remember the story With Magic.

750
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: Johnson y'all Remember Michael. Thompson, Yeah clay's dad played in the.

751
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: League so my rookie, year we didn't make the. PLAYOFFS

752
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: i got traded From cleveland To. Phoenix we didn't make the.

753
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: Playoffs i'm going TO. La i'm WATCHING la play The

754
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 1: Dallas mavericks in the. Playoffs after our season's, over but

755
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 1: they're still. Playing dallas is up like two or three

756
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 1: games to. One cream. Starts cream starts as a, center

757
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,479
Speaker 1: and Then Michael thompson comes off the bent and plays

758
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: the majority of the minutes Because cream is at the

759
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,760
Speaker 1: end of his. Career Michael thompson is having a horrendous,

760
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: series playing horrible at every open. Shot you, know he

761
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 1: hit that mid. Range he wasn't making any of these.

762
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: Shots and one play happened that changed my perspective on.

763
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 1: Basketball Magic johnson got to steal at half. Court he's

764
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: going down to lay it. Up he all by. Himself

765
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 1: he stopped and he Waved Michael thompson at half court

766
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: to come. Down So Mike thompson come lumber That magic

767
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,280
Speaker 1: gives it to, him he lays it. Up his confidence

768
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: at that point went off the, chart started hitting the,

769
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: shots started going harder for the, rebounds started making tip,

770
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: plays and all this Because magic knew they were not

771
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: going to win against The Dallas mavericks unless they Had

772
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: Michael thompson playing his best game as a. PLAYER i saw,

773
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: that AND i did not do that for my team

774
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 1: to the DEGREE i should have in that three year.

775
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: Window and that's a. REGRET i, mean nobody gonna say,

776
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: that but for. ME i know that there's a couple

777
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: of players that were struggling during those playoff. SERIES i

778
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: didn't do that extra to get them to their. Level

779
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: and that's a REGRET i. Have, now that's.

780
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 4: Dope that's, dope as you are damn near the most

781
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 4: important piece out, there the.

782
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 3: Leader so, yeah and there's a point. GUARD i mean

783
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 3: you just know.

784
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 1: That Like wayman tis y'all Remember wayman in the, end

785
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: like a ball and he just couldn't get it going

786
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: during the during some of these toughest, times AND i

787
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 1: DIDN'T i couldn't figure it.

788
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 3: Out and that that just.

789
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 4: What's some game that you? Like you, said help him,

790
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 4: Out but what you mean, though he can't kind of

791
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 4: break that, down like what you could have done to

792
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 4: get him GOING i could.

793
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: Have done to him or WHAT i could have done

794
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 1: two things With. Wayman i'm Using wayman an. EXAMPLE i

795
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: Had Ac, GREEN i had a number applied To but

796
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: Take Wayman. Man if this brother got the ball on

797
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 1: the block and he got a chance to get over

798
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: the shoulder he wanted to get, over you can't stop.

799
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: It there's nothing you can. Do but if you missed

800
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 1: one or two, shots then we went away for. It

801
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: and now he not getting forty minutes a. Game he

802
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 1: didn't take advantage of that five minutes period of time he.

803
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 3: Had so that he offe out the.

804
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: Game, Okay And i'm SAYING i gotta find a way

805
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: to get him another shot or bring him.

806
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 3: Out let's do a pick and.

807
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 1: Roll i'm gonna come off your, man gonna trick your,

808
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: man gonna double team you roll in the.

809
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 3: Basket i'm gonna give you a bounce, back get you a,

810
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 3: layup like there's all kind of little.

811
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: Things BUT i was in the moment and were trying

812
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: to coach is pulling them out And i'm, like, yeah

813
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: we got some and we, Going and then you look

814
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: back at, It i'm, like, man we didn't take advantage

815
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 1: of our most important, weapon Where Cedric. SABALIS i did

816
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 1: that For, cedric AND i could do that For Richard.

817
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: Dumas charles and me were always gonna be, fine BUT

818
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 1: i did not do.

819
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 3: That so that's an.

820
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 2: EXAMPLE i want to ask you this question for a

821
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 2: lot of people at, home like especially kids On Charles

822
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 2: brockley from being ON. Tnt they don't know how good

823
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 2: he was with THE vp and during the time When

824
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 2: Michael jordan was in THE, nba, like could you please

825
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 2: speak To Charles brockleys great and especially be your. Teammate

826
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 2: that was a crazy one two, Punch oh crazy one.

827
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 2: Man he did things at six four and three. Quarters,

828
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 2: YEAH i know how MUCH i know his real height

829
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,959
Speaker 2: six four and three. Quarters that nobody who's ever played

830
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 2: this game is.

831
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 3: Done.

832
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: Thanks, ever if you go back To charles At auburn

833
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 1: played at three hundred pounds at a round mound a

834
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 1: rebound At auburn in nineteen eighty, four he had a

835
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: chance to make The olympic team coming out Of auburn

836
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 1: With jordan and those got on a team And Bobby

837
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 1: knight at fat.

838
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 3: Boy, Yeah Bobby knight like.

839
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: He overweighted and he don't play d and didn't make

840
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 1: the team and he outplayed. Everybody SO i remember being

841
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: in college, going, man IF i ever meet that, Brother

842
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: i'm gonna look out for. Him i'm gonna do my

843
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 1: part because he should have made so he got robbed back,

844
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: then but that's how good.

845
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 3: He was coming out Of.

846
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: Auburn you fast, forward, man that the thing that this

847
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: brother could do on the court to shoot, threes can

848
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: dribble the ball up the.

849
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 3: Court how are you gonna rebound out rebound dudes that

850
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 3: are seven feet night in and night out at six

851
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 3: four and three, Quarters like that's just not.

852
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: Possible there was nothing that this dude couldn't do on

853
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:58,760
Speaker 1: a and he wasn't afraid of the big.

854
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,919
Speaker 3: Moment he wasn't a rate of taking a big.

855
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: Shot he wasn't afraid to call it out on the,

856
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 1: Court like this is a brother you want to go

857
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: to war with and now y'all got me.

858
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 3: On my second.

859
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 1: Regret, MAN i hate watching him ON T N t

860
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: and NOW espn With kenny And. CHARLES i, Mean kenny

861
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: a shack and they get on him by not winning a,

862
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 1: championship that, one that one, like he deserved AN nba.

863
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: Championship that brother fits in that league of elite players

864
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 1: that have won AN nba Champion and the fact that

865
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: he doesn't pisses me off every TIME i see him

866
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,919
Speaker 1: ON tv because IF i could, chase BECAUSE i, would

867
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 1: it's crazy to SOUND i give up me winning the

868
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: champion for him winning it because that brother deserves. It

869
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: man with on courtnight and night, out man was not was,

870
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 1: exceptional AND i got to watch him getting.

871
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 3: Teased and, no, guys, crazy you ain't got no defense for.

872
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 1: It we gonna say all we, want, Well Karl, malone

873
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 1: they want a championship and all these players that that

874
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: brother is the, champion and it's sad that he don't

875
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 1: have that ring to signify that and not that.

876
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 3: One that one pisses me off.

877
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 4: Too they've got any off course stories With chuck that

878
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 4: you could?

879
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 3: Share how many you?

880
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 4: WANT i only won one that just probably all you,

881
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 4: know just one. One oh my, god, MAN i would

882
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 4: like to hear good things about. You that's WHY i,

883
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 4: say if you can, Share i'm. Sharing so one, one

884
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 4: a funny one Was. CHARLES i got so many of,

885
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 4: these all. Right So, charles this is a two part

886
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 4: but it's one. Story charles was known for going, out,

887
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 4: yeah like for real going, on and it got to

888
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,359
Speaker 4: the point where it was just a big. Joke so

889
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 4: he would be coming In saturday, morning which Is sunday

890
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,879
Speaker 4: morning at like seven. Am, wow And i'd be going

891
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 4: out Because i'm going to. Church so he coming from

892
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 4: the the strip.

893
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 3: Clubs this way And i'm going to church that. Way

894
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 3: so you, know just the. Thing it was the go

895
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 3: pray for.

896
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 2: Me.

897
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:13,959
Speaker 1: Cool but my point on this one over the point

898
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: on this, one and it was just like it was, like,

899
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: LOOK i got you so. So but When charles went

900
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 1: to the, club you, know people get this this liquor, courage,

901
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: Right they looking at him like he he ain't as

902
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,879
Speaker 1: big AS i think he, is and he can't do

903
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 1: this and he can't do.

904
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 3: That so people just challenge him all the.

905
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: Time so this one, TIME i believe it was In,

906
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 1: orlando this dude Saw charles that got into a little

907
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:48,320
Speaker 1: bit through some water On charles and his and his.

908
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 1: Guests charles looked at. HIM i wasn't, there But charle

909
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 1: looked at him, like picked this dude up and threw

910
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 1: him out the. Window, no, no for, real threw him

911
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: out the glass window for. Real Charles barkle picked them

912
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 1: dude up and threw him out the, window and then

913
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: looked at him and, SAID i hope you're hurting right,

914
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 1: now because you deserve to be.

915
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 3: Hurting.

916
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 4: Crazy you get.

917
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 3: Arrested an hour. Later true, story you get arrested hour.

918
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 4: Later chuck stayed on the.

919
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 3: Scene back.

920
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: Then you can't do it like back, then you just

921
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: you had to wait it. Out so you get. Arrested

922
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: and then the judge about to give him his, sentencing,

923
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: right and, Like Charles, bartley do you have any? Regrets

924
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: is there anything you'd like to? Say he, SAID i

925
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: have one. REGRET i wish we were on the second.

926
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:40,800
Speaker 3: Floor come, on.

927
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 4: Come on in the. Court, crazy that's, crazy that's.

928
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 3: Wow One charles's. Story one another ONE i, GOT i

929
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 3: got a whole bunch OF.

930
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 4: I was about to get.

931
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 3: Dark wait that's the funny.

932
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: One real quick as he, uh he came out with a, book,

933
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: right he wrote, book and he said all these things

934
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 1: about his teammates and different. Things when the reporter, said, Hey,

935
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 1: Charles i'm looking at your book and you SAID, X

936
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 1: y AND, Z charles, SAID i didn't say that in the.

937
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 3: Reporter let me read you what you. Said And charles, said,

938
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 3: MAN i got, misquoted.

939
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: Misquoted, man he got this just with in this this

940
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: thing about, him and it's just so beloved and on

941
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: the serious side of, it Everything i've done as it

942
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: relates to running from. Mayor was the first person there

943
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: to support, Me Charles. BARKLEY i opened a, restaurant Fixing

944
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: Soul Kitchen la who was the first person there for Granted. Charles,

945
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: man his heart is so big and WHAT i think

946
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 1: he presents that is not as prevalent AS i would

947
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 1: like to see.

948
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 3: Today he's not afraid to speak his mind on social.

949
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: Issues he's not afraid to take a stand on things

950
00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 1: that may not be politically. Correct and his his his

951
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 1: role model growing up was you Know Muhammad, ali And

952
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 1: charles is a modern Day Muhammad. Ali AND i don't

953
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: say that, lightly like he just got this gift and

954
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 1: its likability and you just root for, him whether you agree.

955
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 3: With him or.

956
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 1: Not one time his, Family charles was talking about maybe

957
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: voting For George, bush who's A, republican right and his

958
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 1: family getting On. Charles you. Can't you can't vote for A.

959
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: Republican you can't vote for For. Bush he's for the rich.

960
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 1: People And charles, like, baby, PARDON i am.

961
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 3: Rich so he so much that of, that That's. Chuck that's.

962
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 2: Why well people don't know is what he did FOR,

963
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 2: Mkh like just look it up if you're not, Familiar

964
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,439
Speaker 2: LIKE i know yet we See charles walking ON. Tv

965
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 2: but he put the groundwork in a long time ago

966
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 2: for a lot of political issues and speak his mind for.

967
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 1: Real, yeah and you know, again y'all always ask you

968
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:52,919
Speaker 1: know some guests like for, me it was, like when

969
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: DID i realize it was a? Business, YEAH i told

970
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 1: you In cleveland WHEN i heard him, Saying i'm taking

971
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: food off some of the player's table because they don't

972
00:44:58,600 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 1: get a.

973
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 3: Paycheck, YEAH i go To, PHOENIX i get traded From Cleveland.

974
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: Phoenix phoenix had just got An mlkday in ninety, seven ninety,

975
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: eight and the governor, There Evan, meekham, Said i'm gonna rescind.

976
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,760
Speaker 3: It i'm, like how are you going to take away

977
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 3: a black person celebrity day that we celebrated and Honor

978
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 3: martin Lu. King so he took it. Away he had

979
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 3: the ability to take it.

980
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,760
Speaker 1: Away so then everybody in the community that owned sports,

981
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 1: teams all the owners came to us as players and, said,

982
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: hey can you help raise some money because we're going

983
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 1: to try to get To Martin Luther King day, Passed

984
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: so you, know we do it ends up getting. Passed

985
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: at the, Time i'm thinking everybody doing it because they

986
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: Love Martin Luther. King they're not doing it for that.

987
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: Reason they was doing it because they wanted to get

988
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 1: The Super. Bowl and if you didn't Have Martin Luther King,

989
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: day THE nfl wasn't going to bring A Super bowl

990
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 1: to a city or state that didn't have To Martin

991
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 1: Luther King.

992
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 3: Day and SO i was, like, dang so a lot

993
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 3: of times it's more than me.

994
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: Stiye and that was another kind of wake up moment for, me, thinking,

995
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 1: man everybody Loved, martin let's Go Martin Martin. Martin it

996
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: wasn't about. More it was, like, yeah we Love, martin

997
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: but we love These benjamins more Than. Martin we need

998
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,919
Speaker 1: to make sure that The Super bowl happens here because

999
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: that's a four hundred million dollars nowadays a billion dollar

1000
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 1: economic boom for your.

1001
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 2: Community, wow if you're not from, here go Read, yeah

1002
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 2: very it's just part.

1003
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 3: Time yeah for. Sure, listen shout out to G L D.

1004
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 2: Fellas we tapped in here five twenty and we all

1005
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 2: know how hard it is to get some nice, jewelry

1006
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 2: especially when it's quality and. Endurable be, here you're a

1007
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 2: fine kind of sewer. BOARD i know you tapped in for.

1008
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 4: Sure Man good got water pool jewelry and they make

1009
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 4: your shopping experience easy as. Possible come, on, man you

1010
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 4: sweam in. It, yeah you can swim in. It take

1011
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,919
Speaker 4: a shire in. It, yeah WATERPROOF i mean.

1012
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 3: Off the. Court come, on, man you know the.

1013
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 2: Vibes you can look clean and shine everywhere you go With,

1014
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 2: god they got something for.

1015
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 3: Everybody.

1016
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 2: Listen if you're a sportsman act like, me you could

1017
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 2: tap in and gets your favorite TEAM, MLB, NBA. Nfl

1018
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 2: it don't. Matter they got you. Covered you can represent

1019
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 2: and look good at the same. Time be, here you

1020
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 2: get a lot of. Jury, MAN i know you tapped

1021
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:00,800
Speaker 2: in what you get from THE las, time, MAN.

1022
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 4: I got me a white gold. Man every TIME i

1023
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 4: wear my white gold, CHAIN i wear my, darkoutfit my

1024
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 4: black you know WHAT i, mean denim, jeans black.

1025
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 2: Team, Okay like my MAN dj, said they've worked with

1026
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 2: all the professional. Leagues so for, me you, KNOW i

1027
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:16,919
Speaker 2: tapped in with The hawks and letting us my. Team

1028
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 2: SO i have to look out FOR gld to make

1029
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 2: SURE i got Some Atlanta hawks.

1030
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 3: Jewelry and with that being, said if you don't have a,

1031
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 3: team that's.

1032
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 2: Cool they do custom pieces of ass, well so you

1033
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 2: can represent you your family ANYTHING gld got you, covered

1034
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 2: and you know it's gonna be quality and durable as. Well, listen,

1035
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 2: man work hard and change the. Game for a limited,

1036
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 2: time only new customers are getting an insane. Deal that's

1037
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 2: WHY i use that promo Code club five to twenty

1038
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 2: at G ld dot com and your first order is

1039
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 2: fifty percent. Off that's, Right club five to twenty at

1040
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 2: G ld dot. Com if your persons they're gonna ask

1041
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 2: you heard about, them, man tell them we sent you

1042
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 2: over there tapping with G L D, well like you

1043
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 2: said that, finals you can get through the threshold Now

1044
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 2: you're playing AGAINST mj and the.

1045
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 3: Finals your squad, promising but data. Champs what was that?

1046
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 2: Like man playing at the highest stage against one of

1047
00:47:58,800 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 2: the best wayers to ever do?

1048
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 1: It dream come true for number? One, yeah got there.

1049
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,399
Speaker 1: ONCE i wish we could have got over the. Hunt

1050
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: were losing, six we go down oh. Two it was

1051
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: a dream season for. Us Charles barsley the m V. P,

1052
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 1: yeah we had the best record in the. League everybody's,

1053
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:20,280
Speaker 1: thinking this is our. Year everybody we have home. Court

1054
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 1: first two, Games Dan, marley his, Guarden Michael. JORDAN i

1055
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: don't have a good first two. GAMES i don't play.

1056
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: Well Dan marley is getting scorched, by of course By,

1057
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 1: moncay's but everybody is that's the that's like a. Badger

1058
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: honor me, too you, know for me. Too he got me, too,

1059
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: different me. Too so he gets he gets for sure for.

1060
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: Sure so he gets scorched by By Michael. Jordan's and

1061
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 1: he was our best defensive. Player so we fly in

1062
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: From phoenix To chicago AND i fall asleep on the

1063
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: plane and then the head coach wakes me up right

1064
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 1: and he, says, HEY i just want to let you, know.

1065
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: Man game, three he's gonna be your. Game it's, cool you,

1066
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: KNOW i Believe i'm gonna have to bounce. Back he's,

1067
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: like and you Guarden Michael. Jordan And i'm thinking.

1068
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 3: We owe to.

1069
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:16,839
Speaker 1: Our best player is getting scorched like we all. Did

1070
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 1: and now you're gonna put, me who had a rough

1071
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: two games On Michael.

1072
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:21,240
Speaker 4: Jordan.

1073
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 1: Right SO i go back to, sleep plane land. Awake i'm,

1074
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 1: like DAM i had the. Nightmare the coach came and

1075
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:31,760
Speaker 1: told ME i guard My we walked up the. Plane

1076
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: we walked up the. Plane the coach is right, there

1077
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 1: And i'm, like, MAN i had this dream that you

1078
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:37,959
Speaker 1: came and woke me up and told me you Guarden Michael.

1079
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 1: Jordan he, said you are. Wow god is my. WITNESS

1080
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: i get on team. Bus we take it from the.

1081
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 1: Airport we're staying at the hotel Downtown. CHICAGO i get

1082
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: off the. BUS i tell the equipmentn to take my.

1083
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: BAGS i see a church across the.

1084
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 3: STREET i walked straight in that church AND i sat

1085
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 3: up for a row and Like, JESUS i don't believe

1086
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 3: in you no.

1087
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 1: More there's no. Way if you love me and died

1088
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 1: on the cross and did all the, things you'll be

1089
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: having me guarding.

1090
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 4: That real talk right, now how did you even get

1091
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 4: in the open?

1092
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 3: Always, brother you obviously don't. Know i'm just.

1093
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 1: Kidding turchtos open often during the, weekday depending on where you.

1094
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 3: Are his nickname Is. BISHOP i can't believe that's SO

1095
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 3: i get in the front.

1096
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 1: Row And i'm about To i'm doing AND i lost

1097
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 1: my faith at that. Point so we go To game

1098
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: three and then this is how it becomes. Real you,

1099
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: know when you're in the locker room and they they

1100
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: put the names, up so they, putting, uh Who, Garden

1101
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 1: Scottie pippen and Who?

1102
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 3: Garden you, know all these different players and they AND

1103
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 3: i was, like please, don't please don't put please don't

1104
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 3: put my. Name Michael Michael jordan.

1105
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 1: kJ i was, like, yeah you fast, forward we have to,

1106
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:55,800
Speaker 1: jump we have to, circle you, know we're about to

1107
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 1: jumpall And i'm next To Jordan's so now at this

1108
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 1: point it's fight or, flight, Right i'm, Like i'm you To.

1109
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,320
Speaker 1: Night he was like. HUH i was, like, Yeah i'm guarding, You.

1110
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 1: Knight they through the ball. Hit i'm scared the, heck,

1111
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: right BUT i gotta do, something LIKE i got to

1112
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 1: least try to get in his head a little.

1113
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 3: Bit we end up winning the game. Three it was

1114
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 3: a triple overtime.

1115
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:17,760
Speaker 1: GAME i played every minute in the GAME Nba Rep finals,

1116
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 1: record most minutes ever.

1117
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 3: Played we won that.

1118
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: Game we win two out of three In chicago because

1119
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 1: back then it was a two to three. Two we

1120
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 1: went two out of three In, chicago so you, know

1121
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 1: it worked. Out so by the end of the, SERIES

1122
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 1: i gartened the whole. Series so when people asked, me

1123
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: how did you, Do i'm, LIKE i held him under his.

1124
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: Average and then somebody asked, me, well what was his?

1125
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 1: Average i'm, like, well Damn, marley, yeah, yeah forty.

1126
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 3: Four. Yeah then like what he averag against? You forty?

1127
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 3: Two BUT i kept them Under, yeah take that.

1128
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:54,919
Speaker 4: Mic that's.

1129
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,879
Speaker 2: Crazy it Was, chris.

1130
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 4: You would and somebody still average for.

1131
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:07,720
Speaker 2: When we, missed he went To chicago.

1132
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 3: Straight so oh, man what a. Time.

1133
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:15,879
Speaker 1: MAN i gotta tell you one other good Fun charles.

1134
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 1: Story So charles AND i had a bet one. TIME

1135
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: i ain't gonna tell you what the bet, was but IF i,

1136
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: want he had to go to church with, me and

1137
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 1: if he, WANTED i had to go to strip.

1138
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 3: Club that was the.

1139
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: Bet whatever the bet WAS i lost That negro made

1140
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: me go to a church a strip club with him In,

1141
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 1: houston of all, places. BEAUTIFUL i didn't know what to,

1142
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: do you. KNOW I i'm not SAYING i was, whatever

1143
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 1: BUT i didn't know what to do on in.

1144
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 3: Place just sit right. There you gotta do it the,

1145
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 3: REST i, SAID i got to go in. There it

1146
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,720
Speaker 3: was like hour what hour hopped? OUT i was. SWEATING

1147
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 3: i paid my bet, UP i paid my.

1148
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 1: Butt you just had to go with. It, yeah, no,

1149
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 1: no he said he was gonna go to church with,

1150
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 1: me but he never. Went and then one day To

1151
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: ja went to church with me AND i Faired. Charles

1152
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: doctor j probably went For, Charles. Charlie that's a good

1153
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 1: tell us up head of this. Up heck us, up DOCTOR. J. Man, listen,

1154
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 1: Man we're gonna take a brief. Moment man shouts are

1155
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:13,919
Speaker 1: family over there to didas, Man we tapped.

1156
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 2: In we sponsor for, sure we get your little. Gift,

1157
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:16,879
Speaker 2: man appreciate your sliding on.

1158
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 3: This man for. Sure what's what the open notes? On

1159
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 3: mess it up for?

1160
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 2: Me, Oh i'm just heading to the First all, right thank,

1161
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 2: Man James Hardest man checking?

1162
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 3: Out ah, Man, Man oh, God, okay you know What i'm.

1163
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 3: Saying you know What i'm.

1164
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 2: Saying relapsed and get on the court when it gets more. Buckets,

1165
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:39,720
Speaker 2: man we got your squared.

1166
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:43,839
Speaker 1: Away yeah for, you maniate, man last time you got

1167
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: on the.

1168
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 3: Court, Man i'm gonna be sixty In. March. Yeah the

1169
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 3: last TIME i touched the, BASKETBALL i was forty. Five.

1170
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 1: Wow, MAN i wasn't even on the. COURT i was

1171
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: trying to see IF i can. DONE i was unsuccessful.

1172
00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 3: With forty t.

1173
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 1: GET i try to afford and couldn't. DUNK i don't

1174
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 1: know what made me THINK i could dunk a forty.

1175
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:03,959
Speaker 1: Dollars SO i gave it up after.

1176
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 3: That, okay you ain't touched the ball in fifteen? Years,

1177
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 3: no not one time at forty of.

1178
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:10,959
Speaker 4: Men what happened? Though your knees gave? Up or what

1179
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 4: when you went for?

1180
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 3: Dunk what? HAPPENED i don't want to talk about. It

1181
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 3: you know you just man back?

1182
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 1: Then, man you your your physical life shelf is.

1183
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,479
Speaker 3: Different you KNOW i watched lebron Ra i'm like man doing, that.

1184
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 4: And you KNOW i had.

1185
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 3: MENISCUS i lost all the.

1186
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 1: MENISCUS i had a little nag and, stuff but not

1187
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:31,760
Speaker 1: not anything that would keep me from running and jogging

1188
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 1: and all. THAT i just didn't have the. Bounce, yeah,

1189
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: YEAH i didn't have a bounce. Anymore and, uh you,

1190
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 1: KNOW i just didn't want to keep. PLAYING i wanted

1191
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 1: to turn the. PAGE i knew that IF i kept

1192
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 1: trying to, PLAY i was going to try to get

1193
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 1: another year in and try to do this and Riping.

1194
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 1: ACHILLES i felt like my grandfather told me WHEN i

1195
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 1: went into THE, nba you got to have an exit, strategy,

1196
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: right so when you go, in think about what you're

1197
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 1: gonna do again. Afterwards WHEN i walked away from the,

1198
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: GAME i just turned to pay love.

1199
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 3: Sports still involved with THE nba every CHANCE i.

1200
00:54:58,280 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: Get BUT i just knew THAT i had the other,

1201
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 1: child just other things THAT i feel LIKE i can

1202
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 1: do to get back to the, league into our black

1203
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 1: community in.

1204
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 3: Particular when you started making that, plan like what year

1205
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 3: was it for?

1206
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 1: You SO i got Drafted june of eighty, Seven so eighty,

1207
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 1: seven eighty, eight nineteen eighty seven, eight my first. Year

1208
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 1: it was BEFORE i played my first. Game he was,

1209
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: like you got to think about what you're going to do.

1210
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: Afterward so you just put it in my. Head so

1211
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 1: WHEN i was, PLAYING i was, traveling and we go

1212
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: to all these DIFFERENT nba. Cities i'm trying to meet.

1213
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,359
Speaker 1: People it was like a field, trip, right people paying

1214
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 1: for you to go to all these. Places when you

1215
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 1: grow up for you don't get to go do any

1216
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 1: of those. Places So i'm trying to meet. People i'm

1217
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,439
Speaker 1: trying to see things all around the country and trying

1218
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 1: to think about WHAT i wanted to do. Afterward AND

1219
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 1: i just KNEW i want to stay invallved with the.

1220
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:39,800
Speaker 1: Game BUT i KNEW i didn't want to, COACH i

1221
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: didn't want to. COMMENTATE i wanted to do business and

1222
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 1: some other things beyond, basketball but still have that connect

1223
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 1: me back to. Basketball so WHEN i became, MAYOR i

1224
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 1: was the FIRST nba player to ever become a mayor

1225
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: of a. City and then after that, day being did,

1226
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:56,439
Speaker 1: it And Brass sellers and other people have done.

1227
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 3: It and THEN i brought all the mayors to THE

1228
00:55:58,280 --> 00:55:58,879
Speaker 3: Nba All Star.

1229
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 1: Game it was still this constant connection between me as

1230
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 1: a former basketball player mayor with THE. NBA i get

1231
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 1: to Sacrament on, mayor the Sacrament king's team is about to.

1232
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 1: Leave they almost got relocated To, seattle SO i had

1233
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 1: to work With David stern and all the owners to

1234
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:14,800
Speaker 1: keep the team, there.

1235
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 3: Which we, did which was, great which.

1236
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 1: Again still doing my basketball family, stuff that was still

1237
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:21,479
Speaker 1: part of my duty to try to keep the team.

1238
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,399
Speaker 1: There and then, lastly When Donald, sterling you know made

1239
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 1: those comments by, magic you know back in the, day

1240
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 1: The Players Associate association asked me to represent them With

1241
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 1: Adam silver and we basically Got Donald stern That sterling

1242
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,359
Speaker 1: out of ownership in a very short period of. Time

1243
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:42,919
Speaker 1: so there's been a lot of Things i've been able

1244
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 1: to do with THE nba and player which is awesome for.

1245
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 2: Me, like, man just for you to be to maror your,

1246
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 2: hometown like to win your hometown had that.

1247
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 3: Support what was that?

1248
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 1: Feeling, like craziest thing was on Election on Election, day you,

1249
00:56:57,960 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 1: know when you go to the little booth and you

1250
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 1: gotta vote, ballot get your ballot to. VOTE i looked

1251
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,360
Speaker 1: on it and it Said president of The United. States

1252
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 1: you have two, Choices Barack. OBAMA i was, like, dang

1253
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 1: and then down you have my, name mayor Of. Sacramento

1254
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 1: So i'm, Like i'm on the same ballot As Barack.

1255
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 1: Obama i'm, LIKE i need to keep THIS i should

1256
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 1: keep this as a collector. Them THEN i was, like,

1257
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 1: dang what IF i lose by one? Vote all? RIGHT

1258
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 1: i got SO i did that little THING i Got

1259
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 1: ian he wanted to be. Celebrated we both made history.

1260
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 1: Together keep. That BUT i told that story one, time

1261
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: and if somebody sent me like a whole box in my,

1262
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 1: HOME i got a whole box full of ballads that

1263
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 1: my name is. ON i mean that's just. HISTORICAL i

1264
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 1: mean real. Talk lose about, one you would have kept

1265
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 1: vote with.

1266
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 4: ME i ain't gonna, lie. Though you probably should have

1267
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 4: let The Sacramento cans go. On it's been it's been,

1268
00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 4: rough it's been rough on you.

1269
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 3: Gotta look at, you gotta look at. Me don't look over.

1270
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 4: There i'm gonna. Lie let you do your thing you.

1271
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 1: Had you should have let them go home being super.

1272
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 4: Sliding but you did it for the. Tail you did it.

1273
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 2: For the, same okay, lot because what they put y'all

1274
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 2: through down, there it's un president.

1275
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 4: Because you got him to, stay but you should you

1276
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 4: should have stayed in there Because lodie should not have

1277
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 4: been in there at.

1278
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 3: All we're spreading, crazy that's.

1279
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 4: Funny we just we just be he loves The Sacramento

1280
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 4: kings For, dodgers, everybody everybody just trace everybody to the.

1281
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 4: Circle so that's.

1282
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 2: Funny that's where you go to get. Rehabilitate what about The, Wizards,

1283
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 2: Gila The wizards is back, now they, back they got young.

1284
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 3: Core but that was on the same. PAGE i agree that.

1285
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 4: Watch jokes, aside, though what do you think The sacramento

1286
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 4: kids can do to be back to? Table?

1287
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, man your honest opinion for? REAL i think you

1288
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 1: know every people ask me all the.

1289
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 3: Time is THE nba? Global? Right fair? Question?

1290
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 1: Yeah AND i mean you look at five of the

1291
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 1: best players in the league right, now From shay to

1292
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 1: The Greek Luca.

1293
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 3: Jokovic i'm missing. One that's. UH i mean you say saying, that? Right,

1294
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 3: YEAH i mean that that's just.

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00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 1: Crazy. Right so it's. Global we got global, owners we

1296
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 1: got a global. Brand but one of the things that

1297
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 1: makes something global and successful is you got to care

1298
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 1: about the mid sized markets.

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00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 3: Too it can't just be the BIG la In New.

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00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 1: York you got as AN nba, owner you got to

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00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 1: make sure the mid size markets do. Well so two

1302
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 1: examples of that right now Are San antonio And Okak.

1303
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 3: City.

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00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 1: Right, So sacramento On indianapolis are in that same. Boat

1305
00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 1: so my point to answer your question, is you get the,

1306
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 1: ownership you start drafting, properly you grow up from, within

1307
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 1: you develop. Players you can't make mistakes on your. Drafts

1308
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 1: you got to be very strategic with this very COMPLICATED

1309
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 1: uh salary cap, dynamic and you.

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01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 3: Can it can be, done that's a. Fact but if

1311
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 3: you have a draft and you choose the wrong player

1312
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 3: over and over, again then you're gonna go to the

1313
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 3: back of the. Line you're gonna be there for a

1314
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 3: long time and trying to do it where you get

1315
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 3: Into big three and you hire that that's just not

1316
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 3: not in the mid size. Market that's just not gonna.

1317
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 1: Work you have a different strategy and, philosophy and all

1318
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 1: you gotta do is look At San antonio And Oklahoma

1319
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 1: city has two examples that it can be. Done that's What,

1320
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 1: sacramento in my, opinion needs to do more.

1321
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 3: Of That french house. Players it's crazy each of, those

1322
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 3: each of those come back and buy, you and then

1323
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 3: it sets you, back not one, year three, years and

1324
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 3: then three year becomes six and then you making comments.

1325
01:00:53,880 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 1: LIKE i have to use you for you got?

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01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 3: Me he did. It always worked to like to be next,

1327
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 3: week try to put.

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01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 2: Female he, said you got some rest you got. Restaurants,

1329
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 2: yeah and we are like we sold food connoisseewers over. Here,

1330
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 2: sure every city we go till we find a soul food.

1331
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 2: Restaurant what made you get into the food.

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01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 1: Business WHEN i got Done Bam mayor in twenty, SIXTEEN

1333
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 1: i wanted to GET i want to do a black.

1334
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 1: Business and you, Know i'm not. Entertainer that's not my.

1335
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 1: Gift i'm not doing the hairs making. All that's not

1336
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:32,439
Speaker 1: my gift for black. PRODUCTS i was, like soul. FOOD

1337
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 1: i love soul. Food my grandma from The.

1338
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 3: South.

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01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 1: Yeah WHEN i was in THE, NBA i went to

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01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 1: all the soul food. Restaurants even here right. Now you've

1341
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 1: got a very good one country, kitchen you, know which

1342
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 1: is awesome to get out To Miss. Wilson BUT i

1343
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 1: would go to all soul food restaurants around the. Country

1344
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 1: SO i had that in the back of my, head

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01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 1: what a good restaurant. WAS i get out of. Office

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01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 1: many years, later in twenty, SEVENTEEN i started doing. Research

1347
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 1: my wife AND i we go to all the soul

1348
01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 1: food restaurants In tennessee And. Alabama In mississippi just doing.

1349
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:04,440
Speaker 1: RESEARCH i was locked. In, yeah we were going to

1350
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 1: do it real the right. Ways and THEN i came

1351
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 1: back To, sacramento so we had all our, research and

1352
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 1: THEN i brought in eight black chefs from around the

1353
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 1: country and they all did a contest to try to

1354
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 1: be our chef for the new restaurant we're. Open so

1355
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 1: we chose a brother and then he took my family

1356
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 1: recipes his, recipes and we put a fixing soul food menu.

1357
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 1: Together and our goal is to do fifty around the.

1358
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 1: Country we have one In sacramento that does well in my.

1359
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 1: Hometown the one in la is killing. It we have

1360
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 1: one In tulsa because Of Black Wall. Street we opened

1361
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 1: In detroit last, year which are doing. Well we're negotiating

1362
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 1: On New york and another one in La englewood right.

1363
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 1: Now but we want to be in all the major, cities,

1364
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 1: man and it's a great. Product we will hire one

1365
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 1: hundred and one hundred plus, People so now you've got

1366
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 1: a black business that has one hundred people that are

1367
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 1: black and brown that work for this particular.

1368
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 3: Company we're doing things that are really high.

1369
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 1: Level our, spirits our, beer and our wine are all black.

1370
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 1: Owned so everything we do on black and. Black so

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01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 1: we do. It sacramento doing well. Too before, YOU i,

1372
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 1: say sitting there With seattle to.

1373
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 3: See what's? Crazy now, listen we're gonna be l a.

1374
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 4: SONG i don't want to.

1375
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 3: GO i got. You that's our resident said. That here's

1376
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:15,439
Speaker 3: a CATER i don't know if he sat. THAT i read.

1377
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:19,439
Speaker 4: Up yeah out where is? IT a through L a live.

1378
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 3: All we're right hundred yards from The Crypto staples right.

1379
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 4: There we want to.

1380
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 3: Wait you, know it's funny the space used to Be shack's.

1381
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 1: Restaurant oh he used to call You keils really for

1382
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 1: whatever to you, know he got so many things to

1383
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 1: work out him up a little.

1384
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 3: Short we slid in his. Face that's why we're rocking. It,

1385
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 3: hey turn.

1386
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 4: OFF i need something smothered off the. Menu we got.

1387
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 3: YOU i got you some smother, chicken some mother portchot some.

1388
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 1: Oxtails got, oxtail that's hocktails you you, yeah keep, going keep,

1389
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 1: Going come, on.

1390
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 3: You're gonna be. Fine you know we're.

1391
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 4: Going it's some content there for.

1392
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 1: Sure we got. You, yes it's dope. Space you'll see.

1393
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 1: It it's it's it's.

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01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 2: Beautiful now we got stopping show when we pull up all,

1395
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 2: star we get out here and got to ask you. This,

1396
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 2: now it's been a watching you. Hoop if we line it,

1397
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 2: up you And Kenny smith won't be. One what can

1398
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 2: we do be? Here hard rock? Beat who you take

1399
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:19,440
Speaker 2: your bet?

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01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 4: On MANT i gotta watch kJ walk up out of.

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01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:28,040
Speaker 3: Here WATCH i see you walk.

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01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 4: IN i got, Y i GOT i got.

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01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 3: YEAH i see him walking the board too many. Times

1404
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 3: that's What i'm, saying you, know not need like y'all

1405
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 3: starting to kiss me.

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01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 2: OFF i got for, listen, man we appreciate. You we

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01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 2: definitely Pull we gotta pull up the fixes man one more.

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01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 2: Time tell people that can find it In sacramental in L.

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01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 2: A so that Can Lie man.

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01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 1: Fixing Soul, Kitchen, sacramental Fixing Sol, Kitchen, la Fixing So

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Speaker 1: Kitchen tulsa and Fixing Sol.

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Speaker 3: Kitchen. Detroit, yes, sir pull up Especially, detroit our. Family

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01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 3: we are here show you definitely got to go and

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01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 3: go back to The.

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01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:11,479
Speaker 1: Troit i'm proud of y'all real. Quick i'm just man

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01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 1: man prop love. You man appreciate, too you know, man thank,

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01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:15,919
Speaker 1: You thank you Love.

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01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 3: Man be, hereful we get out of here telling people

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Speaker 3: that can grasp some merch At Man.

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Speaker 2: And ViOS here appreciate. Y'all will catch y'all next. Time

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Speaker 2: club five Twenty the volume