WEBVTT - Best Of Dear Chelsea: Cat and Nat

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, Good morning, Catherine, Hello morning. Does everybody want to

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<v Speaker 1>hear me sing? I don't think so. But I have

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<v Speaker 1>learned how to dance a little bit. What I've learned

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<v Speaker 1>is to just side step to the beat, like just

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<v Speaker 1>a two step. I can do that. So I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to do that just for everything, and I'm not going

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<v Speaker 1>to try to get anything more complicated than that. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what, Chelsea, I'm just sorry, Catherine. I just want

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<v Speaker 1>everyone to know that I'm drinking room temperature water right now.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually got a little bit of a coolness to it,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's palatable. But this is a real tough pill

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<v Speaker 1>for me to swallow.

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<v Speaker 2>She does not like the water.

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<v Speaker 1>I love my thermis in my car. I love my thermiss.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, shout out to Wellie. They make the

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<v Speaker 1>best thermoces. I could put ice in my Wellie bottle

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<v Speaker 1>and it's ice three days later.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, can I tell you something. I have made yogurt

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<v Speaker 3>in my Wellie bottle.

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<v Speaker 1>Before you know what, Catherine, this is not something I

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<v Speaker 1>want to hear about. I says, right up, I'm surprised

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't say cottage cheese.

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<v Speaker 2>I have made my own cheese.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, I mean fucking Brad, you're way to bury the lead.

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<v Speaker 1>Being married to Catherine, She's.

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<v Speaker 4>Up to no good.

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<v Speaker 2>I love fermented foods.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a military death on one of my planes

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<v Speaker 1>the other day and we stopped and they were transporting

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<v Speaker 1>a military bottle body and there were those a whole

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<v Speaker 1>ceremony outside the plane with like the military and their family,

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<v Speaker 1>which was sad because they were all crying, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was really sweet to see that. How they do that. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, well, wait, I guess the airports aren't

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<v Speaker 1>that fucked up if they can swing this like you

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<v Speaker 1>know what. I mean. That really had some decorum and

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<v Speaker 1>some respect because I don't know what's happening with flights lately,

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<v Speaker 1>but something is way.

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<v Speaker 3>Of One of my girlfriends got stuck at Burbank Airport

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<v Speaker 3>for like all of Christmas Day.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh everyone did canceled all their flights. I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been pretty brutal the travel situation. But I guess.

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<v Speaker 3>I have to tell you, Chelsea, we have not had

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<v Speaker 3>a question in a long time that's had as much

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<v Speaker 3>totally varied feedback as Jesse from a weeks ago. She

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<v Speaker 3>called in and remember we talked to her like all

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<v Speaker 3>like the entire episode with Brookshields about her in laws

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<v Speaker 3>yelling at her on the rafting trip, and then we

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<v Speaker 3>kind of got it.

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<v Speaker 1>We discovered that out of the calls she seemed to be

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<v Speaker 1>she needed to do some work. Yeah, well we discovered

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<v Speaker 1>that early on, but we were trying to be respectful before,

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<v Speaker 1>at least I was before I told her.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so the dishwashing. But we had people emailing and

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<v Speaker 3>being like, go get her girls, she did wrong, other

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<v Speaker 3>people being like, no, it was totally her in law's

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<v Speaker 3>fault for screaming at her, and I just thought it

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<v Speaker 3>was really interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you've gotten damns about this, but

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<v Speaker 2>I've gotten a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Of noot this I haven't. Yeah, that is interesting, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Well it's very relatable situation, right, Yeah, it's tough with

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<v Speaker 3>in laws.

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<v Speaker 2>I think nobody doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Get married you don't have to deal with that's another reason, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>to put another perk to not being married.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, you know, her family's got some shit to

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<v Speaker 3>work out too, because if somebody's screaming at you about

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<v Speaker 3>dishes two years later they wanted something to be mad

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<v Speaker 3>at you about, you.

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<v Speaker 5>Know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think that's a really kind of icky thing

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<v Speaker 1>to do. If you're at someone's house and you make

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<v Speaker 1>a habit of nobody's supposed to ask you to help

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<v Speaker 1>at someone else's house, Like, it's not the onus is

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<v Speaker 1>not on them.

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<v Speaker 2>You jump in.

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<v Speaker 1>You got it? Even I do it, and not even I,

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<v Speaker 1>because like I'm someone special, even I who doesn't know

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<v Speaker 1>how to wash dishes, I shouldn't be washing dishes. It's

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<v Speaker 1>worse when I do it. Yeah, I always get up

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<v Speaker 1>and try. Yeah, I try to make an effort because

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<v Speaker 1>it's manners. I mean, it's pretty basic.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But people were up in arms about Jesse.

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<v Speaker 1>Real people were up in arms once when I did

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<v Speaker 1>some poll about toilet paper whether it should be upside

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<v Speaker 1>down coming from them or coming from the top or

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<v Speaker 1>I was on the Drew Barrymore Show and we were

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<v Speaker 1>doing something and it was the biggest thing. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there were like fifteen thousand comments about people's opinions. And

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<v Speaker 1>I finally figured out that I prefer, because I had

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<v Speaker 1>never thought about it before, prefer it from the bottom,

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<v Speaker 1>you do.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want it from the top, top down?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you do.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting, We're just different in every way, Chelsea.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, so far, we have not found one similarity

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<v Speaker 1>except that we both are on this podcast. It's accurate,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what we all in common.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Chelsea, today we have some really exciting guests.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, great, I can't wait. I can't wait to find

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<v Speaker 1>out who they are today. Yeah, we have my two

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<v Speaker 1>Canadian mom friends, Kat and Nat. These girls are two

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<v Speaker 1>hot fucking messes and I'm excited to have them on

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<v Speaker 1>because they're besties. And then they tore around well, they

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<v Speaker 1>tour around America too, at Canada, and they both have

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of children and they talk a lot about motherhood,

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<v Speaker 1>parenting and I don't know what who turned me on

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<v Speaker 1>to them, but we're buddies now.

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<v Speaker 2>They have seven kids between them.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's better than me having them. Are you guys

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<v Speaker 1>ride sharing?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? You know, we always. She doesn't drive. She has

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<v Speaker 4>a car and a license, but she won't drive. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't drive in the highway, just in the city, only

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<v Speaker 4>a few.

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<v Speaker 1>Streets the city or the suburb.

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<v Speaker 4>No, we're in the city.

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<v Speaker 5>I like the city because it's short streets, lots of lights,

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<v Speaker 5>like everything's really fast and quick. But if you go

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<v Speaker 5>to the suburbs, you have to take the highway. I

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<v Speaker 5>don't go there.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, this is Cat, I mean, this is sorry, this

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<v Speaker 1>is Catherine. Hi, and this is Cat and this is no.

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<v Speaker 1>Well wait you Cat, Nat and.

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<v Speaker 4>Nat doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I basically just call them both Cat.

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<v Speaker 2>We can all three be Cat today.

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<v Speaker 6>When they meet us, they're say your Cat and Nat,

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<v Speaker 6>even if we're not together.

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<v Speaker 4>Hi, Oh, I love you Cat and Nat. That's it.

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<v Speaker 6>So it's literally, it's it's totally fine. I mean, look

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<v Speaker 6>at us. I want to be confused too.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it is very confusing because you guys do

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<v Speaker 1>really look a lot alike, but only from hanging out

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<v Speaker 1>with you. I know that Cat is more of like

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<v Speaker 1>a busy body, and Nat is a little bit lazier.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, she loves to vertically. I am no, horizontally.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't want to. They went on tour. Okay, let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the jet assist of you guys, so that

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<v Speaker 1>I want Catherine to be as familiar with me because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even remember how I met you too. I

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<v Speaker 1>just know that we are friends now. But explain to Catherine,

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<v Speaker 1>explain the genesis of everything that you two do. You

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<v Speaker 1>guys went on tour as mothers basically right, you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about mother all the time on your Instagram and how

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<v Speaker 1>nuts it is.

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<v Speaker 4>First of all, it was a joke.

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<v Speaker 6>We decided to do a show as a joke because

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<v Speaker 6>no one invites us anywhere. So we were like, oh,

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<v Speaker 6>we'll make a party and we our first show.

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<v Speaker 4>You guys.

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<v Speaker 6>We threw for free, gave free drinks and free appetizers

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<v Speaker 6>for everybody. We wanted to host a party. We didn't

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<v Speaker 6>pay for it.

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<v Speaker 4>We found people to like sponsor it.

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<v Speaker 6>So we host a party in a theater and then

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<v Speaker 6>we go out to like go have a cocktail party

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<v Speaker 6>with everyone, and they mault like we get mauled. We

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<v Speaker 6>were like, oh, we were just here to hang out

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<v Speaker 6>and we couldn't get through the crowd. The security guard

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<v Speaker 6>basically took us and pulled us back inside. I was like,

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<v Speaker 6>that was weird.

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<v Speaker 5>That was like, we just need an excuse to get

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<v Speaker 5>away from the seven kids and go and have a party.

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<v Speaker 5>And for our party, we wanted a dj, we wanted strippers,

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<v Speaker 5>we wanted flamenco dancers, we wanted dancing, we wanted drinking,

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<v Speaker 5>We want a champagne. So we just created a party

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<v Speaker 5>and then started selling tickets to it.

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<v Speaker 6>And then our agents were like, Okay, if you can

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<v Speaker 6>sell out like three more theaters, we'll talk about it

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<v Speaker 6>to our moment, okay, just kind of all came together.

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<v Speaker 6>We had a podcast, and I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>We wrote a couple of books, and then Chelsea once

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<v Speaker 5>like commented on our Instagram and we died and the

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<v Speaker 5>people were text us you see the Chelsea's oh my god.

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<v Speaker 6>That I don't want to actually talk to her, like

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<v Speaker 6>I didn't want to. I'm like, don't say yes to

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<v Speaker 6>our podcast because that's pressure. And then because you're like

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<v Speaker 6>a real you're funny, We're I was funny and famous

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<v Speaker 6>or not us her and then it was more like

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<v Speaker 6>we're just shit shows and people liked that.

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<v Speaker 5>And now we've seen Chelsea three times this year. One

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<v Speaker 5>we came to your show in Toronto. Two you met

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<v Speaker 5>us at the Sofa hus three were seeing you right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Where do you guys live? And you live in Toron,

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<v Speaker 1>so so everyone knows they're Canadian? Yeah, but they tour

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<v Speaker 1>in America. So what was your agent for before you

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<v Speaker 1>decided to start? How did you even have an agent?

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<v Speaker 6>She emailed every person at WME and just said, you

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<v Speaker 6>know what, we're had in that and we need someone

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<v Speaker 6>to help us with deals, and they said, yes, it

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<v Speaker 6>was so.

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<v Speaker 4>Weird, but we did. We were doing like we were

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<v Speaker 4>doing videos.

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<v Speaker 5>We were doing the mom Troops videos and those were

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<v Speaker 5>videos in the car just like talking about what it's

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<v Speaker 5>like to be a mom.

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<v Speaker 4>We were doing what else did we do?

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<v Speaker 1>But not glorifying what it's like to be a mom. No,

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<v Speaker 1>they's all about how hard it is to be a mom,

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<v Speaker 1>just how demanding it is and all the disappointments and

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<v Speaker 1>that you're not going to win all the time, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's going to be a lot of failures and you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to feel like a failure and that all of

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<v Speaker 1>that is fine.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and that's exactly how we felt when we first

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<v Speaker 5>had our babies. We were just like, we thought this

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<v Speaker 5>was going to be so beautiful and it's actually not,

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<v Speaker 5>and nobody's talking about it. So let's just start doing

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<v Speaker 5>some videos. Because a lot of moms were like blogging

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<v Speaker 5>at the time, and we weren't going to sit down

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<v Speaker 5>and write, so we did videos. No one was doing videos.

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<v Speaker 5>Social media wasn't really a thing. And then everything just

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<v Speaker 5>came at the same time. Like we had been doing

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<v Speaker 5>live streaming through YouTube and the Facebook Live came, so

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<v Speaker 5>we turned it to Facebook Live. It's been a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of like chance and opportunity and saying yes, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>we were We went to a conference that we had

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<v Speaker 5>really no idea. We just kind of decided to go

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<v Speaker 5>and the Today Show was there and two producers they

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<v Speaker 5>found us walking in a hallway and they asked us

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<v Speaker 5>a question and then they were like, wait, will you

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<v Speaker 5>two come with us here? I'm like, yeah, sure, and

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<v Speaker 5>then we just went with them. And then it's actually.

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<v Speaker 6>Been a lot of women who because we really are

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<v Speaker 6>naive in this world of what we've been doing, and

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<v Speaker 6>it's really been women like you Chelsea and like the

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<v Speaker 6>Today Show, and people have just said like yes.

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<v Speaker 4>And they've they've just helped us.

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<v Speaker 6>And you know, when you open a door, like even

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<v Speaker 6>when you comment, that's what people see and they're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 6>she's looking at them. That means that they're worthy of

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<v Speaker 6>me looking at them. Unfortunately, it's sort of the way

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<v Speaker 6>it looks. And even when you don't think you're opening doors,

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<v Speaker 6>kindness goes so far and you you personally have opened

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<v Speaker 6>a ton of doors for us, and we know people

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<v Speaker 6>say yes because you've said yes.

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<v Speaker 4>So I just think, you know, I see like.

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<v Speaker 5>Amy Schumer now comments and follows us, and I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 5>sure that that's probably because she saw you, you know

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<v Speaker 5>what I mean, that you did so that she.

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<v Speaker 4>Kind of took notice enough.

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<v Speaker 6>I just think a lot of women have been so

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<v Speaker 6>impactful in ways they don't know for us, because it's

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<v Speaker 6>really a lot of yeses. That's all we've really done

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<v Speaker 6>and stumbled and failed and gotten up, and some shows

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<v Speaker 6>are do shit and terrible and you're like, oh, that's

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<v Speaker 6>not my demo. But you can't let that hurt your

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<v Speaker 6>ego because we don't knock it out of every city.

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<v Speaker 6>But we figure out, we regroup, and we go back

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<v Speaker 6>to the place, you know what I mean. It's always

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<v Speaker 6>reverse correct, reverse correct.

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<v Speaker 4>It's kind of like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And what would you say that you feel like, thus far,

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<v Speaker 1>your biggest impact has been for other mothers.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's like for women too.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, we have a lot of young people who

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<v Speaker 6>follow us, like fifteen year old's, fourteen year olds who

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<v Speaker 6>wait in the parking lot after the show and sneak

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<v Speaker 6>into our shows to come see us. And I think

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<v Speaker 6>that right now it's our friendship for a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>people that brings the hope and that they find comfort

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<v Speaker 6>in our friendship even more than motherhood.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that's true, because that's honestly, that's what attracted

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<v Speaker 1>to me, to you, to the bestie vibe. I always

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<v Speaker 1>love bestie dynamic.

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<v Speaker 6>And I feel like we fuck up constantly, but we

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<v Speaker 6>pick each other up and it's because we may have

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<v Speaker 6>each other we can do what we do.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think that our friendship is really.

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<v Speaker 5>And the young people are on TikTok, like if this

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<v Speaker 5>isn't us when older than I don't, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't want to be.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so it's sort of this weird.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, you don't have to give up your best

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<v Speaker 6>friend because you're an adult, and I think that's what

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of people think.

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<v Speaker 4>You have to grow up and lose your friendship.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you just have to time your babies and families

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<v Speaker 1>together so that you're both on the same track. Because

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<v Speaker 1>I was asking them about their other friendships independent of

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<v Speaker 1>their own, because you both have separate groups of friends

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<v Speaker 1>that don't necessarily cross over to your.

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<v Speaker 2>Cat or net.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, Yeah, that's right. Yeah, we have separate friendships.

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<v Speaker 6>We for sure planned a bunch of them though, like

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<v Speaker 6>we're like, don't you can't pull out, you know what

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, Like you're not pulling friends, but it's like.

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<v Speaker 4>You are staying in there. We planned the babies before

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<v Speaker 4>husbands had any idea what was happening.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost like your husbands are both just so inconsequential

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<v Speaker 1>in this dynamic. It's you know, I feel sad for them,

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<v Speaker 1>but I also feel like, you know, good.

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<v Speaker 4>They travel, they take care of the kids, they're not one.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah it's pick up time right now, and they check

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<v Speaker 6>off they're not working so they can pick up the kids.

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<v Speaker 4>So they are also a huge reason.

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<v Speaker 6>They support our friendship and what we do, so we

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<v Speaker 6>are very They're not just sperm, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well sure, sure we'll agree on that. Also, they

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<v Speaker 1>travel on a tour bus and I don't sleep in

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<v Speaker 1>the same bed because they don't. They're not down with that.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's more NAT than KAT right from what I remember.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you two sleep together, I would sleep in a

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<v Speaker 1>bed with anybody. I have no problems with that. I

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I prefer well not if we're sleeping together.

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<v Speaker 1>You won't this one over here, Fuck, you're gonna snuggle me?

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<v Speaker 1>My one friend I have one friend who always wants

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<v Speaker 1>to sleep holding hands, So I had to kick her

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<v Speaker 1>out of it. I go, you know what, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>holding hands with you all that I was down to

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<v Speaker 1>sleep with you. She slept over my house the other

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<v Speaker 1>night and we woke up in the morning and there's

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<v Speaker 1>plenty of rooms for her to sleep in. And she

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<v Speaker 1>got up in the morning and she goes, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>touch you. I didn't touch you. I'm like, yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what the fuck is supposed to happen. Can't sleep with

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<v Speaker 1>me if you're gonna fucking hold my ann you're not

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<v Speaker 1>my boyfriend, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, honestly, we always say, like, we have tried to

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<v Speaker 4>teach these seven kids to sleep independently on their own,

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<v Speaker 4>and then finally they learned how to sleep on their own,

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<v Speaker 4>and then you get your relationship, and now you're supposed

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<v Speaker 4>to share a bed again, Like it just doesn't make

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<v Speaker 4>sense for the way that we have learned how to sleep.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, I mean she does it too. We build

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<v Speaker 4>a wall.

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<v Speaker 5>Between our husbands of pillows, and I don't want like,

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<v Speaker 5>maybe his feet might creep over like a hand my

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<v Speaker 5>cream over, but that's not gonna happen Between the two

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<v Speaker 5>of us independent sleeping, like like if I can.

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<v Speaker 6>Have my own bed, I haven't had in my own

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<v Speaker 6>bed in a long time. Like someone's in you, on

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<v Speaker 6>you or wants to get in you at all times.

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<v Speaker 6>So you're like when you get your own bed, it's

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<v Speaker 6>like that's amazing.

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<v Speaker 4>Sare heaven.

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<v Speaker 3>So you want like Lucy and Ricky style, like two

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<v Speaker 3>beds in the bedroom.

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<v Speaker 6>So sometimes people will fly us out and we'll get

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<v Speaker 6>us two rooms, and then we get to the hotel

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<v Speaker 6>where like can we only use one room with two beds?

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<v Speaker 4>Like can we change that king to too?

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<v Speaker 1>That's the ultimate for all sleeping is to be in

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<v Speaker 1>the same room or the same house with a big group.

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<v Speaker 1>But everyone has their own privacy.

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<v Speaker 6>Catherine, Why did Lucy and Ricky sleep in separate beds?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think it wasn't allowed for them to have

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<v Speaker 2>one bed.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, no, that was in that time era, like people

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<v Speaker 1>did that, people had separate sleeping arrangements. I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess why did that change?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>They were married, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, they made little

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<v Speaker 3>Ricky so because they were fucking smarter than us, I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's what that's what needs to come back

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<v Speaker 1>in style if it should be retroactive. I think everyone

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<v Speaker 1>who has a child. I don't even have a child,

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<v Speaker 1>and I feel that way, but anyone who has a

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<v Speaker 1>child is definitely on board for separate beds.

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<v Speaker 4>Is your dog with you?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I want them to, but they even reject me.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't want to say in the bed all night.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to leave the little doggy steps. So Bernice

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<v Speaker 1>will like humor me. She's like, oh, here we go.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, she thinks I'm like assaulting her, so she

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<v Speaker 1>goes to her safe spot while I assault her, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I put her under the covers, like like we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do it. And I noticed that if I have

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<v Speaker 1>the confidence of her not leaving, she will remain. It's

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<v Speaker 1>when I look at her and like, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm worried about her leaving. Is when she leaves so

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<v Speaker 1>she can get five.

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<v Speaker 4>With your insecurity.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And Burt has basically turned into some sort of limp biscuit,

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<v Speaker 1>so I can't. He's not getting into my bed because

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<v Speaker 1>he's frail now, so I have to respect that. No

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<v Speaker 1>more abuse, even though he's probably got that way from

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<v Speaker 1>my abuse anyway. So let's talk a little bit about

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<v Speaker 1>your friendship. Okay, we've talked about it before when you

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<v Speaker 1>guys interviewed me, but I think it's inspiring for a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people that will be listening how your friendship

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<v Speaker 1>works and what the benefits to each of your lives

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<v Speaker 1>are by having such a close, fun, work friend relationship, Kat,

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<v Speaker 1>why don't you start?

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<v Speaker 4>I think for us it will.

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<v Speaker 6>Number one, It allows you to take sort of more

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<v Speaker 6>risks because when there's two of you losing and failing,

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<v Speaker 6>it's a lot, it's funnier and it's a lot easier

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<v Speaker 6>than when it's one of you. And I think that

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<v Speaker 6>when you're both in it together, there's no everything feels

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<v Speaker 6>fun that we do. There's nothing.

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<v Speaker 4>We could be on a delay on an airplane for

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<v Speaker 4>twelve hours and.

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<v Speaker 6>It's fun like it just the stakes just feel different

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<v Speaker 6>because everything's kind of a joke and in a way

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<v Speaker 6>that when parenting is going to shit, we call each

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<v Speaker 6>other and thank god, it often doesn't go to shit

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<v Speaker 6>at the same time, or when your relationship's not great

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<v Speaker 6>and you always have someone to share everything with because

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<v Speaker 6>you're so intimate with them, but you don't have sex

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<v Speaker 6>with them, that it's like this weird.

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<v Speaker 4>We're not transactional.

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<v Speaker 6>We're so tight that when you know when someone's going

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<v Speaker 6>through something, they don't have to see it. The other

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<v Speaker 6>one can just pick up the work slack, knowing that

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<v Speaker 6>that one needs that, and vice versa.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's this weird.

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<v Speaker 6>I think we get double done because there's two of

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<v Speaker 6>us versus one of us, and there's no If we

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<v Speaker 6>failed and lost everything tomorrow, I would be okay because

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<v Speaker 6>our ride has been so much fun and we would

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<v Speaker 6>still have each other and we'd probably figure out something

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<v Speaker 6>else to do in a different capacity. But this wouldn't change.

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<v Speaker 6>And I think that's the coolest thing about our friendship.

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<v Speaker 6>It's friendship first and then fun and then work.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and what about you, Nat, I want you to

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<v Speaker 1>speak up.

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<v Speaker 4>This is going to be hard for her. She doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>do feeling.

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<v Speaker 8>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why you're going second, she got inspired.

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<v Speaker 4>She told me recently why I love her.

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<v Speaker 5>We were on a plane and we were talking about

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<v Speaker 5>love and what love is and why she loves me

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<v Speaker 5>and I love her, and she basically told me I

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<v Speaker 5>love her because she.

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<v Speaker 4>Does things for me like drive me around and like.

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<v Speaker 6>Sure she stays book her plane tickets you know her life.

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<v Speaker 4>But I was like, I think it's more than that.

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<v Speaker 4>But maybe that's all it is.

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<v Speaker 5>It's been fourteen years of being moms together, and there

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<v Speaker 5>has been so many hard times.

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<v Speaker 4>It hasn't all been like he ty keen.

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<v Speaker 5>We've had a post part of anxiety, We've had sickness,

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<v Speaker 5>we've had so many things. But being able to rely

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<v Speaker 5>on your friend too, like she said, pick up when

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<v Speaker 5>the other one can't.

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<v Speaker 4>But also, like my kids say to me, you are

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<v Speaker 4>so lucky.

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<v Speaker 5>You get to go to work every day with your

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<v Speaker 5>best friend and there's no boss, right, we're equal bosses,

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<v Speaker 5>so we don't have to go into work, have a boss,

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<v Speaker 5>go to work all day with a bunch of like

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<v Speaker 5>weirdos or strangers.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just us and everything we get to do is fun.

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<v Speaker 5>I do remind them that what we do is work,

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<v Speaker 5>and we work hard together, but we work together really

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<v Speaker 5>well because we know each other so well.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, we get to just have fun.

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<v Speaker 5>And also it's really great that our children get to

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<v Speaker 5>have sort of like a second mother so that when

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<v Speaker 5>like our siblings, our seventh which is my baby, my

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<v Speaker 5>baby's the seventh, but our seventh is so ferocious because

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<v Speaker 5>she's had to have like seven.

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<v Speaker 4>Above her, like she's grown up with six siblings. Essentially,

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<v Speaker 4>she's ferocious.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the youngest of six, so I know exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking.

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<v Speaker 4>Ferious.

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<v Speaker 6>Our two babies are ferocious, and I just think they're

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<v Speaker 6>so lucky that they always have a built in tribe.

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<v Speaker 6>Like you know, I'm sure you feel it like when

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<v Speaker 6>you have a lot of people around you. It's like

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<v Speaker 6>this built in little thing that you get bumpers around you.

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<v Speaker 5>And we take them on vacation together and we spend

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<v Speaker 5>summers together.

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<v Speaker 6>And us walking on the plane, eleven of us, seven

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<v Speaker 6>children and the two of us walking onto a plane, Everyone's.

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<v Speaker 5>Like, oh, my daughter has billed a hot cup of

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<v Speaker 5>noodles on two different men on two different planes their pants.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god, oh how humiliating.

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<v Speaker 5>She offered him candy as like an apology, and we

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<v Speaker 5>left the two girls like, mom, we still I don't

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<v Speaker 5>know who you are.

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<v Speaker 1>You deal with this man, and that's when you fan out,

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<v Speaker 1>fan out to get away from your children. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to be seen with them. And do you guys

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<v Speaker 1>have similar parenting styles? Are you guys like agree on

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<v Speaker 1>the way you parent or you do differ in that way.

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<v Speaker 6>We like parent each other's children differently, Like her kids

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<v Speaker 6>will come to me for some things, and my kids will.

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<v Speaker 4>Go to her for things. Like we definitely have different personalities.

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<v Speaker 5>Our mothers mothered us differently, but overall I respect totally

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<v Speaker 5>the way that she does it, and she respects the

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<v Speaker 5>way that I do it.

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<v Speaker 6>We go to each other for different devices, like she

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<v Speaker 6>has experts and I have expertise, and then we blend.

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<v Speaker 1>And what do you think your strong suit is? Your

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<v Speaker 1>strong parenting suit is?

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<v Speaker 2>Kat?

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<v Speaker 9>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>God, that's so serious. You know. I'm like the talker.

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<v Speaker 6>So they'll call me, like yesterday, she's like, Mom, we're

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<v Speaker 6>going through some anxiety.

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<v Speaker 4>Can you walk us through these.

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<v Speaker 6>Feelings that we're in the car and we are kids

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<v Speaker 6>in the car. I'm like, yeah, let's go here we go?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh Kat, I'm like, I don't know where we go

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<v Speaker 6>when we die? Like I do the sex like I'm

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<v Speaker 6>the sex conversation. I land the plane. You know, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 6>if you don't know about a boner by grade two,

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<v Speaker 6>we're screwed. So like, I'm like boner penis vagina. People

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<v Speaker 6>do it for fun and for babies. We sit them

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<v Speaker 6>all down and lay it out and not as strong suits.

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<v Speaker 6>She's the one who's like, let's get up on the

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<v Speaker 6>couch and the tables and dance. We bring the fun

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<v Speaker 6>and I'm the combo. She's the person who's like the

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<v Speaker 6>party starter, like always yes, can we have a bag

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<v Speaker 6>of candy?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes? Can we go here? Yes? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>But I'm not I'm not there to talk talk about No,

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<v Speaker 6>They'll all call me and I'm like, let's talk.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I see, I see, yeah, I understand that. I

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<v Speaker 1>get that from you too.

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<v Speaker 6>And then I have to because we share a bank

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<v Speaker 6>account and a credit card, so we all all of

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<v Speaker 6>our money goes into one account, the two of us.

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<v Speaker 1>You are married, you guys, you guys co mingle your funds.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, but like we have other like the funds with

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<v Speaker 5>the husbands and that's where everything's in. No look at

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<v Speaker 5>the budget. But with us that we didn't even know

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<v Speaker 5>for the first few years, and we had to pay taxes.

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<v Speaker 5>We had the most amazing first couple of years until

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<v Speaker 5>we found out about all that. They're basically like, you're

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<v Speaker 5>broke and you start fresh, and we're like shit, but

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<v Speaker 5>we always just like we like to spend money, and

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<v Speaker 5>you want something, I'm like, let's go get it, and

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<v Speaker 5>then we just go buy it out of the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I love that you have a bank

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<v Speaker 1>account together. That is so ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 4>We changed our.

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<v Speaker 5>Wedding and our engagement rings to different styles together.

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<v Speaker 1>I just told you ten minutes ago that your husbands

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<v Speaker 1>are inconsequential and you disagree with me, and you're just

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<v Speaker 1>proving my point. Everything you're saying is supporting what I

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<v Speaker 1>said ten minutes earlier. So yeah, they're very valuable. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>God for those times, Thank God for them. Well, we

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<v Speaker 1>tried to curate your episode today, ladies. Yes, Catherine is

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<v Speaker 1>very good at curating towards you know, the guests that

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<v Speaker 1>we have on to the callers, so that you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be of some help since I know that Nat

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<v Speaker 1>is into talk therapy and she's going to be really

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<v Speaker 1>valuable in conversations. Yeah, no, kay not we'll not go

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<v Speaker 1>to therapy, but you probably still have some good advice

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<v Speaker 1>that you can show with a.

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<v Speaker 4>Social worker to this long show, like yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>You were not social worker before you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Well, we're gonna take a quick break and then

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<v Speaker 3>we'll be back and we'll take some callers and some emails.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, we're taking a break and we're back. We're back,

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<v Speaker 1>We're back.

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<v Speaker 7>Well.

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<v Speaker 3>Our first email comes from a mom who is going

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<v Speaker 3>by tired af Dear Chelsea. I'm a twenty six year

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<v Speaker 3>old mom of four, two of which I had eight

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<v Speaker 3>months ago, twin girls. One of them is so chill,

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<v Speaker 3>only cries when she needs something, and an all around

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<v Speaker 3>normal baby. The other one is exhausting. In her defense,

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<v Speaker 3>she does have collics, some stomach problems, and she's currently teething,

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<v Speaker 3>but she literally never stops crying since she was born.

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<v Speaker 3>She's crying like fifty percent of every day. I have

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<v Speaker 3>a four year old and a two year old who

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<v Speaker 3>also do their fair share of crying, and it gets

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<v Speaker 3>to me. I find myself thinking about how nice it

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<v Speaker 3>would be if she could be more like her twin sister.

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<v Speaker 3>She's the easiest baby I've ever cared for, and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>the oldest of ten, so I've had my fair share

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<v Speaker 3>of experiences with babies. My question to you is, how

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<v Speaker 3>do I not play favorites with the twins when they're

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<v Speaker 3>so obviously is one. I of course love them both equally,

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<v Speaker 3>but let's be honest, I'm scared this might carry into

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<v Speaker 3>the future and become a problem when they get older

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<v Speaker 3>and start to realize the vibe. But it's so hard

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<v Speaker 3>to keep it together with everything going on? What do

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<v Speaker 3>I do about having a favorite? Sincerely tired AF.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't even believe that she had the time to

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<v Speaker 4>write that.

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<v Speaker 5>Like that sounds like such a shit show over there.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, she's twenty six years old, like her brain

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<v Speaker 4>just got fully developed a year ago.

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<v Speaker 5>Yet that just now, that is crazy And the only

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<v Speaker 5>thing I could think of is I have four kids

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<v Speaker 5>as well. I did not have four kids at twenty six.

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<v Speaker 5>I did not have nine siblings. But there is times

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<v Speaker 5>in the cycle of our children that there is a favorite.

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<v Speaker 5>And absolutely that quiet baby is going to be the

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<v Speaker 5>favorite because it's giving the least problems. But my quietest

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<v Speaker 5>ones a year later are the hardest ones. And people

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<v Speaker 5>always ask us, do you have a favorite? I'm like,

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<v Speaker 5>it depends on the day. So I'm pretty sure that

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<v Speaker 5>quiet little one isn't going to be your favorite forever.

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<v Speaker 5>That one's a terrible teenager, that one's going to come

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<v Speaker 5>out of nowhere.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you never get nothing, nothing, Scott Free, No one's

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<v Speaker 6>good for life.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, your quiet baby's going to be a pregnant,

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<v Speaker 5>pregnant drug addict by fourteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I so enjoy the time that you have

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<v Speaker 1>them as your favorite. Because I've talked to a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of men about this, because I know women's answer is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty kind of what you guys are saying. I always

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<v Speaker 1>get an interesting answer. Men have consistently said, whichever child

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<v Speaker 1>needs me the most is their favorite. Huh. And that

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<v Speaker 1>changes all the time too, So it's kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>the opposite of what this woman is going through. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think I don't think it's a new sure to

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<v Speaker 1>have a favorite. My mom said the same thing all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. It's just like depends on what day of

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<v Speaker 1>the week you ask me, totally. Yeah, And whoever's the

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<v Speaker 1>easiest to deal with is obviously, So don't feel guilty

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<v Speaker 1>about that. You're not alone at all, No.

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<v Speaker 5>And just you know, I'm just thinking about Kat's family

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<v Speaker 5>and my family, and we both know who our mom's

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<v Speaker 5>favorite is.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's your brother. Yeah, I guess, And I'm fine

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<v Speaker 4>with that. And she does.

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<v Speaker 6>Natalie here does happen to have one child blown up

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<v Speaker 6>in giant Life's like giant on the wall for many years,

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<v Speaker 6>just one of them and she has four kids, but

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<v Speaker 6>one made the wall.

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<v Speaker 4>He's so big. He's honestly the most photochemic, so it

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<v Speaker 4>was huge.

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<v Speaker 5>You walked in, it was a portrait of him. Everyone's like,

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<v Speaker 5>isn't that wrong? And I'm like, listen, we had a

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<v Speaker 5>photo shoot and one kid nailed it. He's a huge

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<v Speaker 5>picture on the wall.

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<v Speaker 4>That was it. He got good luck next time.

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<v Speaker 1>That's funny. I always say that's my family. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just because I'm the best looking one. You guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's why everything's working out the way it has.

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<v Speaker 1>This was about this world's about looks, and I got

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<v Speaker 1>them so back up and I asked, how that's.

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<v Speaker 4>How she feels. Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 5>Everybody although he is a little on the short side

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<v Speaker 5>compared to everybody else, so.

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<v Speaker 4>He needed the wall, if you will, we needed to

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<v Speaker 4>start early.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I like all the reasoning behind the big

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<v Speaker 1>picture on the wall. So far, I'm totally on board

0:26:20.720 --> 0:26:24.320
<v Speaker 1>with this. That's actually a good way to keep kids

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<v Speaker 1>in check. If you have three or more, totally blow

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<v Speaker 1>one up and put it on the wall and be like,

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<v Speaker 1>guess who the favorite of the month is. Everybody needs

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<v Speaker 1>to step their fucking game up.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my gosh, yay, you are you are onto something favorite.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like the employee of the month.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, you are. Needs incentivization children. You know how when

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<v Speaker 1>you went to sleep away camp. I went to the

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<v Speaker 1>sleep away camp. Well, no, my parents couldn't afford sleepway camp,

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<v Speaker 1>so they sent me to this day camp. And every

0:26:48.200 --> 0:26:51.199
<v Speaker 1>day as somebody would get like best swimmer or best

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<v Speaker 1>finger blaster or whatever you do. And it felt even

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<v Speaker 1>though I saw everyone every day get an award as

0:26:58.680 --> 0:27:00.840
<v Speaker 1>a kid, it felt so good to get the ord.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it feels so good. And that's I mean,

0:27:03.400 --> 0:27:08.000
<v Speaker 1>who doesn't like that that Pavlovian you know response and record? Yeah,

0:27:08.040 --> 0:27:10.520
<v Speaker 1>so yeah, I think everybody listening I just gave you.

0:27:10.600 --> 0:27:13.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean it just came out and I think it's awesome. Yeah,

0:27:13.359 --> 0:27:15.119
<v Speaker 1>it's a great way to take everybody together.

0:27:15.640 --> 0:27:15.800
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>And if you have braces, you just have to wait

0:27:17.680 --> 0:27:19.040
<v Speaker 5>to get those off to hit the wall.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I think it. I disagree, Nat, I disagree. I

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<v Speaker 1>think sometimes just like kids with braces are the best,

0:27:24.800 --> 0:27:26.800
<v Speaker 1>and they should be given they're due right, not just

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<v Speaker 1>based It shouldn't be based on looks. It should be

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<v Speaker 1>based on who's the best kid that month, who had

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<v Speaker 1>the best behavior, you know what I mean? Okay, fair

0:27:34.520 --> 0:27:37.360
<v Speaker 1>or best grades or whatever. However you want to categorize,

0:27:37.359 --> 0:27:38.040
<v Speaker 1>it is up to you.

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<v Speaker 4>I love it.

0:27:38.760 --> 0:27:39.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>And then when they're teenagers and they hate you and

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<v Speaker 3>they're embarrassed by everything, you put their picture on the

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<v Speaker 3>wall until they're good, and then you can take it down.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, oh my gosh, I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, humiliation.

0:27:49.800 --> 0:27:51.600
<v Speaker 1>There's probably gonna be an age where they don't want

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<v Speaker 1>their picture on the wall, So then you have to

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<v Speaker 1>like restrategize.

0:27:54.320 --> 0:27:55.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 6>Then you put yourself up, but you put a nude up,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, you don't embarrass Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Going out, you know, mommy and daddy in their boudoir shop.

0:28:04.640 --> 0:28:07.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, or you just make it. Yeah, that's good to

0:28:07.080 --> 0:28:08.760
<v Speaker 1>threaten them with. Like you're going to do a lot

0:28:08.760 --> 0:28:12.040
<v Speaker 1>of public displays of affection with your husband. That's also

0:28:12.040 --> 0:28:18.359
<v Speaker 1>a good threat. Yeah, write that book hot parenting tips.

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<v Speaker 2>So our next caller, and this was her telling it.

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<v Speaker 3>They're going to be on a zoom So girls, okay, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>be ready. It's a little juicy, Veronica says, dear Chelsea.

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<v Speaker 3>The situation I'm in is quite a doozy for the

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<v Speaker 3>last six months. I was really unhappy in my relationship

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<v Speaker 3>of five years, and after talking to my therapist a

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<v Speaker 3>few months ago, I decided that it would be best

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<v Speaker 3>to end the relationship. As I started emotionally checking out,

0:28:43.080 --> 0:28:45.800
<v Speaker 3>I started flirting with his cousin that also happened to

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<v Speaker 3>be our roommate. For reference, I'm twenty five, my axes

0:28:49.520 --> 0:28:52.440
<v Speaker 3>twenty six, and his cousin is twenty nine. The three

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<v Speaker 3>of us were very close and would do a lot together,

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<v Speaker 3>and I saw the cousin as a really good friend.

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<v Speaker 3>After flirting, sneaking some kisses, and can professing love to

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<v Speaker 3>each other at the house, I couldn't take the guilt

0:29:03.760 --> 0:29:07.840
<v Speaker 3>and ended my relationship, then promptly moved out. After giving

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<v Speaker 3>myself some time to adjust and making sure my feelings

0:29:10.400 --> 0:29:13.320
<v Speaker 3>for his cousin were real, we decided to start seeing

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<v Speaker 3>each other. Things were going really well, but now he's

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<v Speaker 3>started to get very upset about how much this would

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<v Speaker 3>hurt his cousin and how he hates having to keep

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<v Speaker 3>our relationship a secret. I've told him multiple times that

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<v Speaker 3>you can't help who you fall for, and that together

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<v Speaker 3>we can make it work. But I still have the

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<v Speaker 3>fear that this is all going to blow up. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if just coming clean about everything would be

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<v Speaker 3>a good idea, or if we should wait a few

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<v Speaker 3>more months to give their family more time to get

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<v Speaker 3>over the breakup. My biggest concern is his family hating

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<v Speaker 3>him and exiling him over me. But I'm truly so

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<v Speaker 3>in love with him, and if he says we can

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<v Speaker 3>make it work, I want to believe him.

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<v Speaker 2>Help. I don't even know where to start. Veronica, Hi there.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, Hi, hiiio. How are you guys? Good? Our special

0:29:58.120 --> 0:30:01.000
<v Speaker 1>guest today, our cat and Nat and so they're here today,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have Catherine, so you have four of us.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I need all the advice I can get.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know you do need advice. So you

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<v Speaker 1>were dating your previous boyfriend for how long?

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<v Speaker 2>Five years?

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<v Speaker 1>And you've been broken up for how long?

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<v Speaker 4>Going on close at ten months?

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<v Speaker 1>Now, Okay, okay, So this is going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>problem for a lot of people. But yeah, yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>I get it. I mean it's pretty tricky. Their family

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be upset. Somebody is going to be upset.

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<v Speaker 4>I think. So, yeah, I would say that's a safe bet.

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<v Speaker 1>And is your boyfriend, your current boyfriend, who is your

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<v Speaker 1>ex boyfriend's cousin. Is he contemplating your relationship at all

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<v Speaker 1>or is he committed?

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<v Speaker 4>No, he has committed one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you're both done, You're going to be together,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're going to tell his family at some.

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<v Speaker 4>Point, right, Yeah, it's just a matter of when.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, I guess I'll go first, and then you

0:30:59.560 --> 0:31:02.200
<v Speaker 1>girls can to hop on and give your opinion. I

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<v Speaker 1>would just say, the sooner you come clean, the sooner

0:31:05.760 --> 0:31:10.240
<v Speaker 1>everybody can acclimate to the new situation, and the sooner

0:31:10.280 --> 0:31:14.000
<v Speaker 1>everybody has to stop hiding. But be prepared for a

0:31:14.000 --> 0:31:18.840
<v Speaker 1>big thunderstorm that's gonna last for a long time, possibly potentially.

0:31:19.440 --> 0:31:22.080
<v Speaker 1>But I think you should probably try and get the

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<v Speaker 1>truth out sooner than later, and then, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>sooner everyone can get over it.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And it should be you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it should be the boyfriend, It should be your family, Yeah,

0:31:33.880 --> 0:31:35.000
<v Speaker 3>you should be your boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know who should tell the boyfriend. Maybe who

0:31:37.840 --> 0:31:38.920
<v Speaker 1>should tell the boyfriend?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean who are you going to tell first? The boyfriend?

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<v Speaker 5>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Your ex?

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's pretty tricky. What do you girls think? What

0:31:45.200 --> 0:31:45.960
<v Speaker 1>does everyone think?

0:31:46.280 --> 0:31:49.280
<v Speaker 4>Do they have to know that you work together when

0:31:49.320 --> 0:31:50.480
<v Speaker 4>they all were together?

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<v Speaker 11>Does that all have to come out? So that's another topic.

0:31:55.600 --> 0:31:59.600
<v Speaker 11>We kind of agreed to never say that anything started

0:31:59.640 --> 0:32:04.840
<v Speaker 11>while the previous relationship was going on, but we think

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<v Speaker 11>that it would be really obvious that things would start

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<v Speaker 11>to click once the truth came out.

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, like my initial lie, like, wait a few

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<v Speaker 5>months and then act like you guys ran into each

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<v Speaker 5>other and it was so nice to see each other

0:32:18.760 --> 0:32:19.800
<v Speaker 5>again and things started.

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<v Speaker 4>But that's when people always see. The truth always.

0:32:22.760 --> 0:32:25.040
<v Speaker 5>Freaking comes out, and then you're gonna have to not

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<v Speaker 5>only face that you're dating him, but now the lies

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<v Speaker 5>and all of the tears thing.

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<v Speaker 6>Vernica, it's never going to get easier, So waiting longer

0:32:32.200 --> 0:32:34.800
<v Speaker 6>is not gonna make it easier. So freaking rip it

0:32:34.920 --> 0:32:37.840
<v Speaker 6>and just be like, we're dating, we're in love, we're happy.

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<v Speaker 5>Is the family understanding people? Are they wild? Are we

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<v Speaker 5>gonna flip tables?

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<v Speaker 4>Pretty understanding people?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh well, it's a good start, right, I mean, did

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<v Speaker 5>you break up?

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<v Speaker 4>Was he heartbroken? Does he have your act and heartbroken?

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<v Speaker 11>I would say yes, he was very shocked and surprised.

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<v Speaker 4>Does he have new lady? Not yet? Hook him up.

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<v Speaker 4>We got to get him a new lady, and you

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<v Speaker 4>want that.

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<v Speaker 5>He's completely over you and so in love that he

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<v Speaker 5>doesn't care what's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be great if you could wait until he

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<v Speaker 1>has a girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 4>That would be good.

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<v Speaker 1>Serious, then you won't care as much because it's just

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a shit show. You're It's exactly right.

0:33:18.440 --> 0:33:19.960
<v Speaker 1>The truth is gonna come out. They're gonna piece it

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<v Speaker 1>all together. And if you admit that you guys how

0:33:22.920 --> 0:33:25.280
<v Speaker 1>are flirting while you were with him, then that he's

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<v Speaker 1>never going to forgive you. He's going to hold on

0:33:27.240 --> 0:33:30.160
<v Speaker 1>to that for years, and that's just such bad news. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I wish you could just find a lie.

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<v Speaker 2>Was there kind of some overlap there?

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<v Speaker 3>I know you said there were some stolen kisses, but like,

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<v Speaker 3>was there like sex overlap?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no no, no, that's ken Yeah, good for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't say it, Yeah, just say there was flirting. Yeah, flirted,

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<v Speaker 1>and we knew that was wrong and I that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I broke up with you and the cousin, and I

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<v Speaker 1>knew it was wrong. And obviously, don't volunteer that there

0:33:56.640 --> 0:33:59.720
<v Speaker 1>were any kisses. If he asked anything happen? What you

0:33:59.800 --> 0:34:02.280
<v Speaker 1>take that as sex. No, No, we didn't have sex.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to do that while we were dating.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you should admit the kissing behind the

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<v Speaker 1>sneaking kisses. I don't like that, and I'm advocating for

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<v Speaker 1>you to lie.

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<v Speaker 2>I am.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, those details might just hurt more than I to.

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<v Speaker 2>Know everything exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>You guys can play it off like you've been dating

0:34:17.600 --> 0:34:19.520
<v Speaker 3>for a few months because you I mean what you

0:34:19.560 --> 0:34:22.600
<v Speaker 3>said you did, which is moving out, giving yourself some

0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:24.879
<v Speaker 3>space to like figure out if this was really real.

0:34:25.080 --> 0:34:27.040
<v Speaker 3>Turns out it was ten months, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>You did a lot of the right things. You stopped

0:34:30.360 --> 0:34:33.480
<v Speaker 3>it when it was going a certain direction. And I think,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, having some white lives in there about not

0:34:36.000 --> 0:34:38.879
<v Speaker 3>having physical intimacy, I think that's just fine too.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's so nice that you're so in love.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, it's very refreshing compared to the last five years.

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<v Speaker 1>So well, don't fucking say that.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't tell him that, no, yeah, yeah, yeah, But

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<v Speaker 7>you know, you and your new boyfriend, if you can

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<v Speaker 7>weather this storm that you're going to about to get

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<v Speaker 7>into and listen, maybe it's not going to be a

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<v Speaker 7>big deal that would be ideal.

0:35:03.280 --> 0:35:05.839
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, it probably will be a big deal.

0:35:06.200 --> 0:35:07.320
<v Speaker 1>You know, people like to get.

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<v Speaker 4>His brother, you know, it could have been his brother.

0:35:09.000 --> 0:35:09.920
<v Speaker 4>At least it's just a cousin.

0:35:10.840 --> 0:35:13.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that's a good thing to bring up. Say,

0:35:13.520 --> 0:35:16.160
<v Speaker 1>at least I wasn't fucking your father, right, See how

0:35:16.160 --> 0:35:16.719
<v Speaker 1>he likes that.

0:35:17.840 --> 0:35:20.319
<v Speaker 4>I just say, it's you know better or your mother.

0:35:20.640 --> 0:35:22.680
<v Speaker 1>What if I was fucking your mother, that would be

0:35:22.719 --> 0:35:25.600
<v Speaker 1>a real shocker, you know, that would be a double whammy.

0:35:26.080 --> 0:35:27.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you really got to see that. This is the

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<v Speaker 4>best case scenario. I feel like it is a bit

0:35:30.719 --> 0:35:34.520
<v Speaker 4>removed from your family. Yeah, not immediate I didn't go

0:35:34.600 --> 0:35:35.720
<v Speaker 4>for immediate family.

0:35:36.440 --> 0:35:40.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah. And I think also you have to be

0:35:40.160 --> 0:35:42.480
<v Speaker 1>very once this is out, be very sensitive to the

0:35:42.480 --> 0:35:44.479
<v Speaker 1>fact that people are going to have like their little

0:35:44.520 --> 0:35:48.239
<v Speaker 1>feelings about it, and then that will just eventually fade out. Yeah.

0:35:48.320 --> 0:35:50.920
<v Speaker 6>Just the family probably doesn't like the cousin that much.

0:35:50.960 --> 0:35:52.560
<v Speaker 6>You always talks about cousins, you know.

0:35:52.480 --> 0:35:52.879
<v Speaker 1>What I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>It might not even be that close. So maybe you're

0:35:55.400 --> 0:35:56.360
<v Speaker 4>in a great place.

0:35:56.080 --> 0:35:58.520
<v Speaker 1>And get a dan a test. Maybe they're not even cousins,

0:35:58.640 --> 0:36:01.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, Oh my gosh. A lot of surprises at

0:36:01.120 --> 0:36:04.719
<v Speaker 1>them something that really is true. It is. Yeah, I

0:36:04.800 --> 0:36:07.000
<v Speaker 1>get your twenty three and me, I bet you who knows?

0:36:07.120 --> 0:36:08.160
<v Speaker 1>Who knows?

0:36:08.960 --> 0:36:13.000
<v Speaker 4>Wow, things really took a churn for a positive here. Yeah.

0:36:13.040 --> 0:36:15.680
<v Speaker 3>But also like it's been ten months, hopefully it won't

0:36:15.719 --> 0:36:17.840
<v Speaker 3>be a big deal, right, it's been a while.

0:36:18.200 --> 0:36:20.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's been a while. Yeah, make sure you let

0:36:21.040 --> 0:36:23.560
<v Speaker 1>us know what happens. Okay, I'm very I'm very still,

0:36:23.960 --> 0:36:26.279
<v Speaker 1>and let us know when it happens. What happens, Yeah,

0:36:26.480 --> 0:36:27.080
<v Speaker 1>call us back.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I'll give you all the juicy details.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Yes, perfect, Okay, good luck with that.

0:36:33.400 --> 0:36:33.640
<v Speaker 4>Thank you.

0:36:35.400 --> 0:36:39.960
<v Speaker 1>That's right, that's awesome. That's gonna be one fucked up situation.

0:36:40.480 --> 0:36:42.680
<v Speaker 4>Holy shit, I'm sorry heal.

0:36:42.880 --> 0:36:45.920
<v Speaker 1>The vibes from that family. Just by talking to her.

0:36:46.520 --> 0:36:47.800
<v Speaker 1>I know it's going to go badly.

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<v Speaker 3>The ancestors are gonna be pissed. We have another caller, gals.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Emily. Emily is forty six, She says, HI,

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<v Speaker 3>favorite podcast. I left an abusive marriage in two thousand

0:37:04.680 --> 0:37:07.120
<v Speaker 3>and seven. In two thousand and eight, I met a

0:37:07.120 --> 0:37:10.520
<v Speaker 3>guy who, fourteen years later, is still around. When we

0:37:10.560 --> 0:37:13.600
<v Speaker 3>got together, we bonded over our terrible marriages, and we

0:37:13.680 --> 0:37:16.799
<v Speaker 3>had kids, so our relationship became our private island. We

0:37:16.880 --> 0:37:20.279
<v Speaker 3>communicate well and became great travel buddies. We don't live

0:37:20.280 --> 0:37:23.200
<v Speaker 3>together and our kids are grown. I love my me time,

0:37:23.280 --> 0:37:26.080
<v Speaker 3>and so I'm on the fence about living together. When

0:37:26.080 --> 0:37:28.960
<v Speaker 3>I think about getting older and having a partner to

0:37:29.000 --> 0:37:30.799
<v Speaker 3>help me with things that happen when you get old,

0:37:30.880 --> 0:37:34.399
<v Speaker 3>like falling or getting sick, it seems like a good idea.

0:37:34.520 --> 0:37:38.239
<v Speaker 3>He just says maybe someday. Someday is fine. I'm a

0:37:38.239 --> 0:37:40.880
<v Speaker 3>weed smoker and super happy just to be living and

0:37:40.920 --> 0:37:44.080
<v Speaker 3>somewhat successful. I was once anxious and now moved to

0:37:44.120 --> 0:37:47.239
<v Speaker 3>a secure attachment style person, been in therapy since I

0:37:47.320 --> 0:37:49.919
<v Speaker 3>was a teen. I have so much life left to live,

0:37:50.080 --> 0:37:52.200
<v Speaker 3>and it would be easy to let another fifteen years

0:37:52.239 --> 0:37:55.120
<v Speaker 3>pass just as we are. He's still in my life,

0:37:55.120 --> 0:37:59.000
<v Speaker 3>but recently the relationship's been sort of fizzling. We're still

0:37:59.000 --> 0:38:01.960
<v Speaker 3>in contact, but not really together. Is it worth sticking

0:38:02.000 --> 0:38:04.600
<v Speaker 3>it out another couple of years or have we peaked

0:38:04.600 --> 0:38:06.920
<v Speaker 3>already and it's time to move on. I'm such an

0:38:06.920 --> 0:38:09.680
<v Speaker 3>easy going person. I'm worried I'm going to let life

0:38:09.760 --> 0:38:13.640
<v Speaker 3>pass me by. I find myself asking after fourteen years

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<v Speaker 3>together and not cohabitating. Should I be asking for more? Sincerely, Emily.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, Emily, Hey, this is Kat and nat Are who

0:38:23.280 --> 0:38:26.520
<v Speaker 1>are special guests today. They're from Canada.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey, put is very legal here.

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<v Speaker 9>Oh nice? Perfect?

0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:35.800
<v Speaker 1>And you know Catherine because you probably spoke to her already.

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<v Speaker 9>She's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So you've been with your partner for fourteen years

0:38:40.440 --> 0:38:42.839
<v Speaker 1>and you say you're independent, but then you say that

0:38:42.880 --> 0:38:45.040
<v Speaker 1>you want to move in together. So it's a little confusing.

0:38:45.320 --> 0:38:46.239
<v Speaker 1>Which one do you want?

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<v Speaker 10>Okay, So it's a little confusing of a situation. We

0:38:50.239 --> 0:38:53.359
<v Speaker 10>did break up. It's sort of run its course. This

0:38:53.440 --> 0:38:56.000
<v Speaker 10>has been going on for a long time. But I

0:38:56.160 --> 0:38:58.759
<v Speaker 10>kind of like I'm growing up. I guess I think

0:38:58.800 --> 0:39:01.320
<v Speaker 10>I finally became an adult share kind of thing where

0:39:01.920 --> 0:39:04.120
<v Speaker 10>the same things we used to do, like he would

0:39:04.160 --> 0:39:06.000
<v Speaker 10>come over and we would hang out, we'd smoke, we

0:39:06.000 --> 0:39:11.399
<v Speaker 10>were you know, this great, perfect private island situation. And

0:39:11.480 --> 0:39:14.560
<v Speaker 10>then after it got old, it just, you know, it

0:39:14.680 --> 0:39:16.080
<v Speaker 10>kind of I got busy.

0:39:16.280 --> 0:39:17.719
<v Speaker 9>I like to do things outside.

0:39:18.520 --> 0:39:22.080
<v Speaker 10>He doesn't, and so I stopped doing all the things

0:39:22.080 --> 0:39:23.960
<v Speaker 10>that I would do to get ready to hang out

0:39:24.000 --> 0:39:26.400
<v Speaker 10>with him. And to me, that was a sign that

0:39:27.080 --> 0:39:31.000
<v Speaker 10>I shouldn't continue this. I should at least think about

0:39:31.000 --> 0:39:31.960
<v Speaker 10>what I need at this.

0:39:32.000 --> 0:39:35.000
<v Speaker 9>Point in my life. Now, I love him, we get

0:39:35.040 --> 0:39:35.640
<v Speaker 9>along great.

0:39:36.040 --> 0:39:38.440
<v Speaker 1>Sounds like you're describing your brother or your best friend.

0:39:38.600 --> 0:39:41.879
<v Speaker 1>Like it's the excitement is gone. It's over, so move

0:39:41.920 --> 0:39:44.040
<v Speaker 1>on and you need to find something else. You have

0:39:44.080 --> 0:39:46.480
<v Speaker 1>to be excited about the person that you are fucking.

0:39:46.800 --> 0:39:49.120
<v Speaker 1>You have to be excited and want to look good

0:39:49.120 --> 0:39:50.759
<v Speaker 1>from when they come over and look in the mirror

0:39:50.800 --> 0:39:53.080
<v Speaker 1>and actually care about what you look like. I know

0:39:53.120 --> 0:39:56.360
<v Speaker 1>that after fourteen years that's not typical, but so great.

0:39:56.440 --> 0:39:58.279
<v Speaker 1>You're not married to him, you have no reason to

0:39:58.320 --> 0:39:59.920
<v Speaker 1>hang on to this. You can move on and use

0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:02.160
<v Speaker 1>him as like you know, hows to have him in

0:40:02.200 --> 0:40:05.480
<v Speaker 1>your life as a friendship. It's so easy to see. Yeah,

0:40:05.480 --> 0:40:06.879
<v Speaker 1>for sure, it's that.

0:40:06.960 --> 0:40:11.239
<v Speaker 10>Appropriate to be friends. I guess I'm a little unclear

0:40:11.360 --> 0:40:13.160
<v Speaker 10>on what as long as you.

0:40:13.120 --> 0:40:15.480
<v Speaker 1>Don't have expectations from him, you know, if you can

0:40:15.520 --> 0:40:18.040
<v Speaker 1>transition into a friendship or you're not having sex with him,

0:40:18.239 --> 0:40:20.600
<v Speaker 1>because I think that's confusing and that muddies the waters.

0:40:21.000 --> 0:40:23.080
<v Speaker 10>We're not having sex, we haven't had sex, and like

0:40:23.440 --> 0:40:24.239
<v Speaker 10>you're yeah, I.

0:40:24.160 --> 0:40:25.799
<v Speaker 1>Mean, if it's okay to be friends with him. But

0:40:26.000 --> 0:40:28.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, sometimes when we have somebody old in our life,

0:40:28.320 --> 0:40:30.120
<v Speaker 1>it kind of prevents us from moving on to the

0:40:30.160 --> 0:40:32.759
<v Speaker 1>new person. So I don't know if that's happening, but

0:40:32.800 --> 0:40:35.400
<v Speaker 1>it sounds like what you're describing is pretty stale.

0:40:35.800 --> 0:40:38.440
<v Speaker 5>And I'm thinking, like when you said, you're forty six,

0:40:38.560 --> 0:40:41.239
<v Speaker 5>and you're already looking at a time where you get

0:40:41.280 --> 0:40:42.560
<v Speaker 5>old and all down.

0:40:42.840 --> 0:40:45.000
<v Speaker 4>You have, you are still so young.

0:40:45.040 --> 0:40:48.759
<v Speaker 1>There's a forty seven. I'm don't fight my jam up, Like,

0:40:48.800 --> 0:40:52.280
<v Speaker 1>what are you talking about? Forty is the new twenty five?

0:40:52.440 --> 0:40:53.480
<v Speaker 1>Like it doesn't matter?

0:40:53.719 --> 0:40:56.920
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, yeah, No. The whole point of that was, so

0:40:57.080 --> 0:40:57.440
<v Speaker 9>we do.

0:40:57.640 --> 0:40:59.719
<v Speaker 10>He has some stomach issues and he was in the

0:40:59.760 --> 0:41:02.480
<v Speaker 10>hot I didn't get a call for three days.

0:41:02.480 --> 0:41:03.719
<v Speaker 9>So that's the story there.

0:41:03.760 --> 0:41:06.279
<v Speaker 10>It's like we are getting older and like these are

0:41:06.320 --> 0:41:08.080
<v Speaker 10>things I should be thinking about.

0:41:08.560 --> 0:41:09.000
<v Speaker 9>But don't.

0:41:09.160 --> 0:41:13.719
<v Speaker 1>I disagree. You're sick? Why do you have to think

0:41:13.719 --> 0:41:14.080
<v Speaker 1>about that?

0:41:14.560 --> 0:41:17.680
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, men are going south before women too, So don't

0:41:17.680 --> 0:41:19.520
<v Speaker 6>hook up with the guy thinking he's taking care of you,

0:41:19.520 --> 0:41:21.600
<v Speaker 6>because you were definitely taking care of him before he

0:41:21.680 --> 0:41:22.480
<v Speaker 6>takes care of you.

0:41:22.480 --> 0:41:23.879
<v Speaker 4>You know what I mean? You got to look out

0:41:23.920 --> 0:41:26.120
<v Speaker 4>for you go younger yes.

0:41:26.040 --> 0:41:27.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, genius.

0:41:27.760 --> 0:41:30.879
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's go younger. And also you want your vibration here,

0:41:31.080 --> 0:41:34.759
<v Speaker 1>not settling. Like vibration when you settle it just is

0:41:34.800 --> 0:41:35.760
<v Speaker 1>like olymp biscuit.

0:41:36.160 --> 0:41:39.440
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, hire a nanny to babysit you when you get older,

0:41:39.480 --> 0:41:40.040
<v Speaker 6>you know what I mean.

0:41:40.239 --> 0:41:41.440
<v Speaker 4>Don't get married.

0:41:41.880 --> 0:41:44.120
<v Speaker 1>I would rather pay somebody to take care of me

0:41:44.320 --> 0:41:47.480
<v Speaker 1>in my life dying days than have any fucking child

0:41:47.600 --> 0:41:49.960
<v Speaker 1>or niece or nephew. And my nieces and nephews love

0:41:50.040 --> 0:41:51.960
<v Speaker 1>me and they would take care of me, but I

0:41:51.960 --> 0:41:54.000
<v Speaker 1>would rather pay somebody to do it so that when

0:41:54.040 --> 0:41:55.719
<v Speaker 1>I say, get me a velvetere on the rocks with

0:41:55.760 --> 0:41:58.560
<v Speaker 1>a splash of fucking soda on my deathbed, they're going

0:41:58.640 --> 0:41:59.000
<v Speaker 1>to do that.

0:41:59.440 --> 0:42:01.800
<v Speaker 2>Chelsea, Can I tell you where you can do that? Really? Well?

0:42:01.920 --> 0:42:04.799
<v Speaker 3>My sister works an elder law and she said that

0:42:04.840 --> 0:42:06.640
<v Speaker 3>what a lot of people are doing these days is

0:42:06.760 --> 0:42:08.879
<v Speaker 3>rather than going into assisted living, which is like ten

0:42:08.880 --> 0:42:11.759
<v Speaker 3>grand a month, they just go on cruises, cruise after

0:42:11.800 --> 0:42:15.040
<v Speaker 3>cruise after cruise, because there's more doctors per capita on

0:42:15.120 --> 0:42:17.080
<v Speaker 3>a cruise than at the nursing home.

0:42:17.160 --> 0:42:19.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but saying you have to go on a fucking cruise, captine,

0:42:20.440 --> 0:42:22.880
<v Speaker 1>Fuck I'm not doing that. I would go on a

0:42:22.880 --> 0:42:25.319
<v Speaker 1>limited edition cruise, like there has to be less than

0:42:25.360 --> 0:42:27.799
<v Speaker 1>fifty people, and then I'll go great, and I have

0:42:27.840 --> 0:42:29.720
<v Speaker 1>to be able to throw each one of them overboard.

0:42:29.719 --> 0:42:33.840
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, you're fucking forty six, You're not. Everything's great,

0:42:34.400 --> 0:42:34.960
<v Speaker 1>have yeah.

0:42:34.880 --> 0:42:36.760
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, But can I ask you a question, Chelsea?

0:42:36.880 --> 0:42:39.520
<v Speaker 10>So I know you really love your alone time, and

0:42:39.600 --> 0:42:42.719
<v Speaker 10>I really identified with that. My kid went back to

0:42:42.719 --> 0:42:45.440
<v Speaker 10>school and I had the best day yesterday just by myself.

0:42:46.000 --> 0:42:49.360
<v Speaker 10>And so do you ever think about in that situation

0:42:49.840 --> 0:42:50.920
<v Speaker 10>being very comfortable?

0:42:50.920 --> 0:42:53.040
<v Speaker 9>Are you too comfortable? Or like, do you think that

0:42:53.320 --> 0:42:53.640
<v Speaker 9>you should?

0:42:53.680 --> 0:42:56.400
<v Speaker 1>You don't figure you don't need to overanalyze yourself. Whatever

0:42:56.640 --> 0:42:59.399
<v Speaker 1>feels good to you is the right thing. We are all.

0:42:59.440 --> 0:43:01.319
<v Speaker 1>We live in a society where it's a good thing

0:43:01.400 --> 0:43:03.719
<v Speaker 1>to like have introspection. But you don't have to be

0:43:03.760 --> 0:43:06.560
<v Speaker 1>overly analytical about every little move you make. There's no

0:43:06.640 --> 0:43:08.719
<v Speaker 1>such thing as I spend too much time AMers. The

0:43:08.800 --> 0:43:11.760
<v Speaker 1>other night, I went to bed at five nineteen pm. Okay,

0:43:12.080 --> 0:43:14.239
<v Speaker 1>anyone else would be like, are you depressed? I don't

0:43:14.239 --> 0:43:17.040
<v Speaker 1>give a fuck. I wanted. All I could think about

0:43:17.080 --> 0:43:19.040
<v Speaker 1>was going to bed. I looked at my sleep number

0:43:19.080 --> 0:43:21.719
<v Speaker 1>in the morning, my stats on my phone and it

0:43:21.800 --> 0:43:24.120
<v Speaker 1>said you fell asleep at five nineteen pm, And I

0:43:24.200 --> 0:43:27.360
<v Speaker 1>was like, what a victory lap, you know, like, yeah,

0:43:27.600 --> 0:43:31.080
<v Speaker 1>it's whatever, jealous, whatever you feel that you need is

0:43:31.120 --> 0:43:33.120
<v Speaker 1>what you need. Stop judging yourself.

0:43:33.440 --> 0:43:35.160
<v Speaker 2>And also it's okay if that changes.

0:43:35.520 --> 0:43:39.719
<v Speaker 1>Yes, as as it does. It changes all the time,

0:43:39.760 --> 0:43:42.799
<v Speaker 1>So whatever you're feeling is never gonna last forever. Like

0:43:42.920 --> 0:43:46.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, you're just in this mood right now, and

0:43:46.040 --> 0:43:47.600
<v Speaker 1>then you're gonna get out of that mood. But I

0:43:47.600 --> 0:43:49.680
<v Speaker 1>would say, you know, take a little separation from that

0:43:49.719 --> 0:43:51.160
<v Speaker 1>guy and his stomach.

0:43:52.160 --> 0:43:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:43:53.000 --> 0:43:56.839
<v Speaker 3>My one question I think is why it's been such

0:43:56.840 --> 0:43:59.719
<v Speaker 3>a slow burn for you to make the change. Like

0:43:59.760 --> 0:44:01.360
<v Speaker 3>it's been like a year and a half of this

0:44:01.480 --> 0:44:06.280
<v Speaker 3>relationship dissolving and no sex, and you know you're still wondering,

0:44:06.320 --> 0:44:07.800
<v Speaker 3>like do I give it two more years?

0:44:08.160 --> 0:44:09.160
<v Speaker 2>What is that there?

0:44:13.239 --> 0:44:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Like everybody know that's a big silent gap. We're just

0:44:16.520 --> 0:44:19.200
<v Speaker 1>all waiting and while you figure out what your answer

0:44:19.239 --> 0:44:20.880
<v Speaker 1>is mm hmm.

0:44:21.360 --> 0:44:24.840
<v Speaker 9>The answer is I'm not waiting. I just this situation

0:44:25.000 --> 0:44:25.319
<v Speaker 9>is here.

0:44:25.480 --> 0:44:28.400
<v Speaker 10>I've moved on with my life and I think that

0:44:29.440 --> 0:44:33.799
<v Speaker 10>I need to put a cap on that relationship and

0:44:33.840 --> 0:44:36.600
<v Speaker 10>say like, look, we had a good run.

0:44:36.440 --> 0:44:39.880
<v Speaker 4>And you know, is he gonna feel the same way?

0:44:40.160 --> 0:44:42.760
<v Speaker 4>Just how does he feel he knows about this call?

0:44:42.920 --> 0:44:44.120
<v Speaker 4>Like he's caring.

0:44:45.440 --> 0:44:48.560
<v Speaker 6>Oh you know your answer, and we all know you

0:44:48.640 --> 0:44:50.640
<v Speaker 6>know your answer. You just wanted to tell you what

0:44:50.680 --> 0:44:52.279
<v Speaker 6>to do, but you know what to do. You just

0:44:52.320 --> 0:44:54.200
<v Speaker 6>said it. We didn't have to say anything. You just

0:44:54.239 --> 0:44:56.359
<v Speaker 6>wanted someone else to tell you. We want to cap

0:44:56.400 --> 0:44:56.839
<v Speaker 6>that off.

0:44:57.000 --> 0:44:59.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, right, I think you should write Dad, I

0:44:59.640 --> 0:45:02.960
<v Speaker 1>should like, you should write that on your refrigerator. Who cares?

0:45:03.040 --> 0:45:06.040
<v Speaker 1>And that is applied to you? And what anyone else

0:45:06.120 --> 0:45:09.160
<v Speaker 1>might that possibly think of? You start with that mantra

0:45:09.280 --> 0:45:10.080
<v Speaker 1>every single day.

0:45:11.040 --> 0:45:11.680
<v Speaker 9>I love it.

0:45:12.200 --> 0:45:14.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, you have a whole world, Like you're gonna

0:45:14.680 --> 0:45:16.319
<v Speaker 1>have a lot of men in your life. We just

0:45:16.360 --> 0:45:18.279
<v Speaker 1>sometimes have to clean out the garbage in our lives.

0:45:18.320 --> 0:45:20.399
<v Speaker 1>And not that you know any person is garbage, That's

0:45:20.440 --> 0:45:23.280
<v Speaker 1>not what I'm saying. It's just some people aren't adding

0:45:23.320 --> 0:45:25.200
<v Speaker 1>to our value, and some people are only there for

0:45:25.239 --> 0:45:27.160
<v Speaker 1>a short period of time and in your case, a

0:45:27.200 --> 0:45:29.839
<v Speaker 1>long period of time. But it's time to dust out

0:45:29.840 --> 0:45:32.120
<v Speaker 1>those cobwebs and get going with the rest of your life.

0:45:32.400 --> 0:45:35.759
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, this could be such an exciting time for you.

0:45:35.960 --> 0:45:36.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:45:36.400 --> 0:45:38.560
<v Speaker 4>I actually it just became a grown up and you

0:45:38.600 --> 0:45:41.719
<v Speaker 4>just found yourself. Yeah, it's gonna be a good time.

0:45:42.200 --> 0:45:44.120
<v Speaker 10>I have a couple of people have hit me up

0:45:44.160 --> 0:45:46.399
<v Speaker 10>over the past year that I just haven't been ready

0:45:46.400 --> 0:45:46.799
<v Speaker 10>to date.

0:45:46.880 --> 0:45:49.919
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, you know, do it.

0:45:50.160 --> 0:45:53.279
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I like being by myself right now, I gotta then.

0:45:53.239 --> 0:45:53.920
<v Speaker 4>Don't do it now.

0:45:54.000 --> 0:45:55.720
<v Speaker 2>You don't have to move in with them right away

0:45:56.120 --> 0:45:57.160
<v Speaker 2>right now, I don't want to.

0:45:58.480 --> 0:46:01.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, just go with the flow. I remember

0:46:01.360 --> 0:46:03.120
<v Speaker 1>once I was hanging out with this group of people.

0:46:03.360 --> 0:46:05.279
<v Speaker 1>This is a long time ago, and I remember looking

0:46:05.280 --> 0:46:07.960
<v Speaker 1>around going this isn't going to cut it. These people

0:46:07.960 --> 0:46:09.759
<v Speaker 1>are not going to cut it. I'm too cool to

0:46:09.800 --> 0:46:12.880
<v Speaker 1>be in this group. And you have to remember that

0:46:12.920 --> 0:46:15.839
<v Speaker 1>about yourself. When you're too cool for a situation, go

0:46:16.040 --> 0:46:18.040
<v Speaker 1>and find people that are on your vibe, not people

0:46:18.080 --> 0:46:19.800
<v Speaker 1>that are on your like lower than your totally.

0:46:20.160 --> 0:46:21.399
<v Speaker 9>Yeah.

0:46:21.440 --> 0:46:23.520
<v Speaker 6>And if I could go back and dry hump people,

0:46:23.560 --> 0:46:25.320
<v Speaker 6>I would just dry hump like I would if I

0:46:25.360 --> 0:46:27.279
<v Speaker 6>were you. I would just dry hump and make out

0:46:27.280 --> 0:46:28.759
<v Speaker 6>with them. It would just send them thank you for

0:46:28.800 --> 0:46:29.719
<v Speaker 6>the night and move on.

0:46:30.520 --> 0:46:31.520
<v Speaker 2>I love that advice.

0:46:31.640 --> 0:46:34.279
<v Speaker 1>Try hamp is all that bad. Actually, dry humping is

0:46:34.320 --> 0:46:36.120
<v Speaker 1>going to probably make a comeback at some point.

0:46:36.200 --> 0:46:37.760
<v Speaker 4>It's ly fun.

0:46:37.960 --> 0:46:40.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, because you could actually a woman could come

0:46:41.120 --> 0:46:46.040
<v Speaker 1>or climax from dry humping. Yeah, and to go yeah

0:46:46.120 --> 0:46:48.080
<v Speaker 1>or monkey a set of monkey bars.

0:46:51.840 --> 0:46:53.719
<v Speaker 10>I can't believe you put that in your book, by

0:46:53.719 --> 0:46:56.400
<v Speaker 10>the way, because like I think every woman was like,

0:46:56.560 --> 0:46:57.799
<v Speaker 10>that's okay that we did that.

0:46:57.920 --> 0:46:59.919
<v Speaker 1>What were oh yeah you girls. I used to master

0:47:00.239 --> 0:47:02.080
<v Speaker 1>over my pants when it was called the feeling when

0:47:02.080 --> 0:47:04.279
<v Speaker 1>I was growing up. I was so excited. I had

0:47:04.280 --> 0:47:06.040
<v Speaker 1>no idea because I didn't think you would never touch

0:47:06.040 --> 0:47:08.560
<v Speaker 1>your Pikachu directly. It would be over the jeans. But

0:47:08.640 --> 0:47:10.560
<v Speaker 1>if the seam of the jeans were the right seam,

0:47:10.600 --> 0:47:13.040
<v Speaker 1>a fixed seam, you could make yourself come even faster.

0:47:13.320 --> 0:47:15.839
<v Speaker 1>So I would lie down behind an automan. I'd get

0:47:15.840 --> 0:47:20.600
<v Speaker 1>home after school and I would just be just rubbing myself,

0:47:20.680 --> 0:47:23.400
<v Speaker 1>but I'd have my vagina covered by the automan in

0:47:23.400 --> 0:47:25.359
<v Speaker 1>case anyone walked into the living room and they would

0:47:25.360 --> 0:47:27.319
<v Speaker 1>just see me face down on the floor while I

0:47:27.320 --> 0:47:29.360
<v Speaker 1>had like rug burns on my chin. I was so

0:47:29.480 --> 0:47:32.680
<v Speaker 1>into myself. I could not get enough of myself. All

0:47:32.719 --> 0:47:34.640
<v Speaker 1>I would do was jerk off all the time, and

0:47:34.760 --> 0:47:36.879
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know I was masturbating. I mean, I knew

0:47:36.920 --> 0:47:38.759
<v Speaker 1>it was like a secret, but I was just like, oh,

0:47:38.920 --> 0:47:40.919
<v Speaker 1>all my girlfriends were doing it, and so I would

0:47:41.000 --> 0:47:43.200
<v Speaker 1>just be sitting there rubbing my vagina, rubbing my vagina.

0:47:43.239 --> 0:47:45.319
<v Speaker 1>And then finally we were at dinner one night and

0:47:45.400 --> 0:47:47.600
<v Speaker 1>I had a ladle and it was a whole family

0:47:47.600 --> 0:47:50.000
<v Speaker 1>dinner and I couldn't like, I couldn't even take a

0:47:50.000 --> 0:47:52.239
<v Speaker 1>break for dinner. If only fans were alive, then I

0:47:52.239 --> 0:47:53.799
<v Speaker 1>would have been on it. And so I had this

0:47:53.880 --> 0:47:56.200
<v Speaker 1>spoon in between my legs and I was rubbing myself

0:47:56.239 --> 0:48:00.200
<v Speaker 1>at the dinner table, and I obviously became red or

0:48:00.239 --> 0:48:03.799
<v Speaker 1>sweaty or something, and my mom goes, Chelsea, what you're

0:48:03.840 --> 0:48:05.839
<v Speaker 1>doing needs to be done in the privacy of your

0:48:05.880 --> 0:48:09.080
<v Speaker 1>own room. And then my brother Roy yells, she does

0:48:09.120 --> 0:48:13.160
<v Speaker 1>it all the time. And I looked around the table

0:48:13.400 --> 0:48:16.239
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh my god, everyone's known this

0:48:16.280 --> 0:48:18.200
<v Speaker 1>whole time that I've been fucking jerking off. Like I

0:48:18.239 --> 0:48:20.520
<v Speaker 1>thought I was sleuth, you know, Like I was like,

0:48:20.800 --> 0:48:24.719
<v Speaker 1>oh my god. And I was so devastated that I

0:48:24.800 --> 0:48:27.520
<v Speaker 1>did not masturbabeuntil I was in my forties because I

0:48:27.560 --> 0:48:28.560
<v Speaker 1>was so shamed about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate that, for you.

0:48:29.560 --> 0:48:32.799
<v Speaker 1>I hated that my brothers knew that I was jerking off.

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<v Speaker 4>Very common, it's very common.

0:48:35.600 --> 0:48:38.440
<v Speaker 1>Of course, it is, of course it is. I mean, yeah,

0:48:38.480 --> 0:48:39.439
<v Speaker 1>they're jerking off.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know the show Young Sheldon. I want Young

0:48:44.320 --> 0:48:45.000
<v Speaker 4>chel Oh.

0:48:45.080 --> 0:48:46.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know I need to make an I know

0:48:47.160 --> 0:48:49.919
<v Speaker 1>we were working on that once. Anyway, did you get

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<v Speaker 1>your advice that you came here for?

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<v Speaker 4>I did?

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<v Speaker 9>I love you so much?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, ditching him?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? Good? Well, when you get a new boyfriend

0:48:58.800 --> 0:49:01.120
<v Speaker 1>or girlfriend or whatever you're in too obviously men right now,

0:49:01.120 --> 0:49:03.839
<v Speaker 1>but that can always change. Also, be open minded and

0:49:03.880 --> 0:49:06.120
<v Speaker 1>when you're in a new situation and you're feeling really

0:49:06.120 --> 0:49:08.080
<v Speaker 1>positive about your life, please send us a line and

0:49:08.120 --> 0:49:08.520
<v Speaker 1>let us know.

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<v Speaker 9>Yes, of course we'll do Hi. Thanks ladies.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, didn't you even take a break for dinner?

0:49:18.520 --> 0:49:21.640
<v Speaker 1>No, what a productive call that was. That was great,

0:49:22.239 --> 0:49:24.319
<v Speaker 1>she needs. Isn't it funny that you can just talk

0:49:24.360 --> 0:49:26.600
<v Speaker 1>to someone and you can feel their energy just by

0:49:26.640 --> 0:49:29.520
<v Speaker 1>talking to them, like if it's high or low. I

0:49:29.560 --> 0:49:32.960
<v Speaker 1>wish that was more like measurable. You know, when people

0:49:32.960 --> 0:49:34.839
<v Speaker 1>talk about energy. I wish somebody could say, oh, you're

0:49:34.840 --> 0:49:37.600
<v Speaker 1>at an eighty, so that people would take it more seriously,

0:49:37.719 --> 0:49:40.160
<v Speaker 1>because like, the high vibes are so important, and there

0:49:40.160 --> 0:49:43.120
<v Speaker 1>are people that just bring you down. Yeah, you know,

0:49:43.400 --> 0:49:45.880
<v Speaker 1>and it's not their fault or that they're a bad person,

0:49:45.920 --> 0:49:47.360
<v Speaker 1>You're just not on the same frequency.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you should have like a little thing above our

0:49:49.840 --> 0:49:53.239
<v Speaker 5>head that says like, well, like a halo, yeah thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I have one more quick question from Brittany. Brittany Britney

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<v Speaker 3>spears a.

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<v Speaker 2>Spellbo so maybe not a little different.

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<v Speaker 3>Dear Chelsea, I have a situation I've been wrestling with

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<v Speaker 3>for about a year. I'm thirty six years old and

0:50:08.520 --> 0:50:11.680
<v Speaker 3>never wanted kids until this last year. I married my

0:50:11.760 --> 0:50:14.640
<v Speaker 3>husband last year and we've been together for eight years total.

0:50:15.200 --> 0:50:18.359
<v Speaker 3>I really love him. We mostly have a great relationship.

0:50:18.480 --> 0:50:20.960
<v Speaker 3>We have three cats we adore. But the thing is

0:50:21.239 --> 0:50:23.840
<v Speaker 3>he does not want to have kids. We always agreed

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<v Speaker 3>about this until a year ago. I kept thinking that

0:50:26.840 --> 0:50:28.840
<v Speaker 3>the desire to have kids would just be a phase

0:50:28.880 --> 0:50:32.280
<v Speaker 3>and go away, but it keeps getting stronger. I'm really

0:50:32.320 --> 0:50:34.880
<v Speaker 3>confused and torn on what to do. The thought of

0:50:34.960 --> 0:50:37.080
<v Speaker 3>leaving makes me sad, and the fear of trying to

0:50:37.080 --> 0:50:39.840
<v Speaker 3>find a partner and have kids at my age seems scary.

0:50:40.239 --> 0:50:42.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm freezing my eggs so that helps take some of

0:50:42.440 --> 0:50:45.799
<v Speaker 3>the pressure off, but it's still a huge undertaking. I'm

0:50:45.800 --> 0:50:48.160
<v Speaker 3>worried that later on I'll have some regret about not

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<v Speaker 3>taking a chance on having a family of my own.

0:50:50.719 --> 0:50:53.360
<v Speaker 3>I'm also worried that I'll regret leaving a good marriage

0:50:53.360 --> 0:50:55.960
<v Speaker 3>and potentially fucking up my life with a crappy partner,

0:50:56.080 --> 0:50:59.320
<v Speaker 3>or the challenges of parenthood. How can I make this decision.

0:50:59.480 --> 0:51:02.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to therapy, but I feel stuck. The clock

0:51:02.160 --> 0:51:05.640
<v Speaker 3>is ticking, which is so stressful. Thanks for your help, Brittany.

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<v Speaker 1>So the husband decided he didn't want to have kids.

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<v Speaker 2>I think neither of him did. And then she just

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<v Speaker 2>like changed her mind.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh okay, and hit her and she just she felt

0:51:14.440 --> 0:51:16.600
<v Speaker 5>like she was maternal and she needed to have a baby.

0:51:17.120 --> 0:51:17.400
<v Speaker 4>Oh wow.

0:51:17.400 --> 0:51:19.040
<v Speaker 5>If she really has to decide what does she want

0:51:19.080 --> 0:51:21.200
<v Speaker 5>more him or the baby, because she actually doesn't.

0:51:21.440 --> 0:51:23.440
<v Speaker 4>She doesn't need him to make the baby. No, she

0:51:23.440 --> 0:51:24.120
<v Speaker 4>could do it alone.

0:51:24.160 --> 0:51:25.880
<v Speaker 3>But she doesn't need to find another partner to have

0:51:25.920 --> 0:51:28.279
<v Speaker 3>a baby either. If they did fizzle, like if they

0:51:28.280 --> 0:51:30.200
<v Speaker 3>broke up, like she can't have a baby on her own.

0:51:30.360 --> 0:51:30.720
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:51:30.800 --> 0:51:32.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but that's not gonna make her feel good. She

0:51:32.719 --> 0:51:35.480
<v Speaker 1>wants to have a husband and that baby. Yeah, so

0:51:36.080 --> 0:51:38.480
<v Speaker 1>you guys are parents, so you need to handle this.

0:51:38.719 --> 0:51:42.200
<v Speaker 6>It's happened to a lot of our friends actually, and

0:51:42.440 --> 0:51:46.440
<v Speaker 6>they broke up with the partner to have the baby.

0:51:46.560 --> 0:51:49.880
<v Speaker 6>Because you're gonna end up if you can't let it go.

0:51:50.000 --> 0:51:52.399
<v Speaker 6>You're gonna hate them, You're gonna resent them that they

0:51:52.440 --> 0:51:56.040
<v Speaker 6>never did it, and you will just find problems even

0:51:56.080 --> 0:51:58.399
<v Speaker 6>if there isn't a problem, you'll create problems. So it's

0:51:58.760 --> 0:52:01.040
<v Speaker 6>rather be honest and be like, I've changed my mind,

0:52:01.320 --> 0:52:03.080
<v Speaker 6>and maybe he doesn't know how. She's nervous to say

0:52:03.120 --> 0:52:05.080
<v Speaker 6>I really really want this, this is what he might

0:52:05.120 --> 0:52:07.359
<v Speaker 6>be like. Then I can get on board. You never

0:52:07.400 --> 0:52:08.600
<v Speaker 6>know if you're really honest with it.

0:52:08.719 --> 0:52:11.240
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, like maybe eight years ago when they started together,

0:52:11.320 --> 0:52:14.160
<v Speaker 5>they totally agreed on that, but he really wasn't as like,

0:52:14.480 --> 0:52:16.600
<v Speaker 5>he wasn't as determined to not have them as she was.

0:52:16.719 --> 0:52:18.919
<v Speaker 4>Now she's changed her mind. Who knows, maybe he has too.

0:52:19.120 --> 0:52:21.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, I don't know.

0:52:22.280 --> 0:52:25.440
<v Speaker 6>Oh God, my husband did a one a third really

0:52:25.840 --> 0:52:27.719
<v Speaker 6>and it was a big conversation, and.

0:52:27.719 --> 0:52:29.280
<v Speaker 1>I was like, that's different.

0:52:29.320 --> 0:52:32.520
<v Speaker 6>I know, but I was a very big conversation. I

0:52:32.520 --> 0:52:33.880
<v Speaker 6>think for some people we have to be like this

0:52:33.960 --> 0:52:36.000
<v Speaker 6>is this is so important to me. I don't know

0:52:36.000 --> 0:52:37.720
<v Speaker 6>if I can keep being with you if I can't

0:52:37.719 --> 0:52:40.280
<v Speaker 6>do this, And then he might be like I never knew.

0:52:41.080 --> 0:52:43.640
<v Speaker 5>Let's maybe let's talk about it. I think about what

0:52:43.680 --> 0:52:44.399
<v Speaker 5>we're gonna do here.

0:52:44.680 --> 0:52:47.640
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's so much more than do I leave him

0:52:47.719 --> 0:52:49.600
<v Speaker 6>or do I get a baby? Because she might not

0:52:49.640 --> 0:52:51.640
<v Speaker 6>even be able to have a baby. You know, like

0:52:51.680 --> 0:52:54.959
<v Speaker 6>there's so many ex factors. It's so hard to say

0:52:55.040 --> 0:52:57.000
<v Speaker 6>leave them and go get a new partner and a baby.

0:52:57.360 --> 0:53:00.600
<v Speaker 6>Maybe there's wiggle room in two years.

0:53:00.719 --> 0:53:02.800
<v Speaker 4>Or you know, if she's.

0:53:02.600 --> 0:53:05.239
<v Speaker 6>Freezing his eggs, does he not know something's coming up?

0:53:05.360 --> 0:53:06.440
<v Speaker 6>Or is she doing it in secret?

0:53:06.600 --> 0:53:09.480
<v Speaker 1>Well, she's freezing her eggs. Yeah, I think you should know.

0:53:09.840 --> 0:53:14.080
<v Speaker 8>Well, man don't have eggs. FYI, I did you know that?

0:53:14.719 --> 0:53:17.600
<v Speaker 8>I mean her her egg Yeah, and she may be

0:53:17.640 --> 0:53:20.160
<v Speaker 8>doing it alone. It's expensive to do that too, yeah,

0:53:20.239 --> 0:53:20.960
<v Speaker 8>Canada it is.

0:53:21.800 --> 0:53:22.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you have to be like, if you really

0:53:23.600 --> 0:53:25.920
<v Speaker 1>are thinking about this, a you have to wanted to

0:53:25.960 --> 0:53:27.680
<v Speaker 1>have that baby one hundred and fifty percent. You have

0:53:27.719 --> 0:53:29.279
<v Speaker 1>to be committed to that. And if you are that

0:53:29.360 --> 0:53:32.160
<v Speaker 1>committed to that baby and that's more important to you

0:53:32.239 --> 0:53:35.560
<v Speaker 1>than your husband is right now, then yeah, you've got

0:53:35.600 --> 0:53:38.879
<v Speaker 1>to leave him and go pursue that. But I mean

0:53:38.960 --> 0:53:41.520
<v Speaker 1>you have to really know that you want to do that,

0:53:41.680 --> 0:53:44.279
<v Speaker 1>not just be curious about being a mother. I think,

0:53:44.400 --> 0:53:47.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, sometimes I know how strong a maternal instinct

0:53:47.280 --> 0:53:50.400
<v Speaker 1>can be, at least I hear about it. But uh,

0:53:50.440 --> 0:53:52.440
<v Speaker 1>I think you have to examine really how important that

0:53:52.480 --> 0:53:54.239
<v Speaker 1>is to you, and then that's your decision right there.

0:53:54.360 --> 0:53:56.680
<v Speaker 6>You know, Yeah, did you have like a whoopsie, like

0:53:56.840 --> 0:53:59.200
<v Speaker 6>you know, get unofficially inciminated and then be like, oh

0:53:59.280 --> 0:54:00.839
<v Speaker 6>my no bad.

0:54:01.120 --> 0:54:04.719
<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, but also we're also married. Yeah, I mean

0:54:04.800 --> 0:54:07.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm not against that, like.

0:54:10.080 --> 0:54:13.560
<v Speaker 2>Them into a baby, Okay we did?

0:54:13.680 --> 0:54:17.240
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well that's yeah, that's your advice. What's her name name?

0:54:17.600 --> 0:54:20.080
<v Speaker 4>I think that's a good idea. That's just that I

0:54:20.560 --> 0:54:21.120
<v Speaker 4>would do that.

0:54:21.239 --> 0:54:23.760
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, if I was a manipulative person, that was something

0:54:23.760 --> 0:54:24.479
<v Speaker 6>I would think about.

0:54:24.719 --> 0:54:26.440
<v Speaker 2>Or just you know, is that how you wand up

0:54:26.440 --> 0:54:27.239
<v Speaker 2>with baby number three?

0:54:28.200 --> 0:54:29.480
<v Speaker 1>No?

0:54:29.960 --> 0:54:32.239
<v Speaker 4>Locked them in? You know, wrap my legs, you're not

0:54:32.320 --> 0:54:33.399
<v Speaker 4>leaving Squeeze.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, let's take a quick break and we'll come back

0:54:36.000 --> 0:54:43.560
<v Speaker 3>to wrap up with caten At and Chelsea, and we're back.

0:54:44.440 --> 0:54:45.080
<v Speaker 1>We're back.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Caten, this is the part of the show. I

0:54:47.880 --> 0:54:50.200
<v Speaker 3>want to know if you'd like any advice from Chelsea.

0:54:51.080 --> 0:54:53.520
<v Speaker 6>Well, we have an ongoing argument that maybe the two

0:54:53.560 --> 0:54:55.719
<v Speaker 6>of you and Chelsea could settle for us. We have

0:54:55.760 --> 0:54:59.640
<v Speaker 6>an argument on whether of you and Chelsea. Yeah, whatever,

0:54:59.719 --> 0:55:01.400
<v Speaker 6>you know, I'm saying, Okay, I think.

0:55:01.360 --> 0:55:02.880
<v Speaker 4>We just we've never really agreed.

0:55:02.960 --> 0:55:04.920
<v Speaker 5>I don't know if we have a misunderstanding and we

0:55:04.960 --> 0:55:06.920
<v Speaker 5>actually have to show each other what we mean. But

0:55:07.640 --> 0:55:11.920
<v Speaker 5>I take soap and I wash underneath and all over

0:55:12.000 --> 0:55:14.480
<v Speaker 5>my vagina, like I actually take the soap in my hands,

0:55:14.520 --> 0:55:17.240
<v Speaker 5>and not in like not in the hole of course,

0:55:17.320 --> 0:55:20.160
<v Speaker 5>not the hole in the oven, in like, all underneath.

0:55:20.200 --> 0:55:21.840
<v Speaker 5>And she says that you shouldn't put she read, and

0:55:22.040 --> 0:55:23.960
<v Speaker 5>you don't put soap there because it's self.

0:55:23.840 --> 0:55:26.640
<v Speaker 4>Inside, not in the hole in the lip.

0:55:26.800 --> 0:55:29.000
<v Speaker 1>Yes, all in this in the list. And I don't

0:55:29.040 --> 0:55:31.359
<v Speaker 1>think you're I'm pretty rough. When I wash my beaver

0:55:31.440 --> 0:55:34.319
<v Speaker 1>in the shower, that's obviously the first spot I liked it,

0:55:34.360 --> 0:55:37.400
<v Speaker 1>but I don't put the soap bar like I guess

0:55:37.480 --> 0:55:40.600
<v Speaker 1>I probably do with something similar. I do know that

0:55:40.640 --> 0:55:43.080
<v Speaker 1>you're not supposed to do that. You're not supposed to

0:55:43.080 --> 0:55:46.000
<v Speaker 1>put soap inside the lips any of that. Your vagina

0:55:46.080 --> 0:55:50.279
<v Speaker 1>is a self cleaning mechanism. It means itself. Yes, are

0:55:50.320 --> 0:55:53.200
<v Speaker 1>you serious? Yeah, so you've been raped soap around it,

0:55:53.800 --> 0:55:55.799
<v Speaker 1>But like, I don't think it's gonna hurt you. I mean,

0:55:55.840 --> 0:55:58.080
<v Speaker 1>it's supposed to affect your p H balance, is what

0:55:58.160 --> 0:56:00.520
<v Speaker 1>I know. Yeah, yeah, but I'm not But I don't

0:56:00.640 --> 0:56:03.080
<v Speaker 1>use a bar of soap. I used pump soap, right,

0:56:03.160 --> 0:56:05.719
<v Speaker 1>is that what you use? So you're not okay? So,

0:56:05.880 --> 0:56:07.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I just don't think it's that big of

0:56:07.480 --> 0:56:10.640
<v Speaker 1>a deal. I think if you actually put it inside you,

0:56:11.160 --> 0:56:13.640
<v Speaker 1>then it's a big deal. But maso manos, as they

0:56:13.719 --> 0:56:14.600
<v Speaker 1>say in it' Spana.

0:56:14.960 --> 0:56:17.279
<v Speaker 3>If you're not getting any East infections, you're probably doing

0:56:17.280 --> 0:56:17.640
<v Speaker 3>it fine.

0:56:17.719 --> 0:56:20.520
<v Speaker 5>Yeah right, Yeah, everything's been fine so far. I just

0:56:20.560 --> 0:56:24.200
<v Speaker 5>like all dark moist places need to be. I also

0:56:24.239 --> 0:56:27.160
<v Speaker 5>have ibs, so that would be different. You know ibs

0:56:27.239 --> 0:56:27.560
<v Speaker 5>down there.

0:56:27.560 --> 0:56:30.360
<v Speaker 1>You do definitely stuck my finger in my butthole to

0:56:30.520 --> 0:56:35.720
<v Speaker 1>wash it. Really, Yeah, if there's a situation that needs cleansing.

0:56:35.840 --> 0:56:37.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, inside the hole.

0:56:37.440 --> 0:56:40.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just to make sure like everything's there that is

0:56:40.280 --> 0:56:43.640
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be there and nothing extra. Great. Yeah, only

0:56:43.680 --> 0:56:45.000
<v Speaker 1>when I've had an incident.

0:56:46.200 --> 0:56:49.520
<v Speaker 5>Oh my gosh, if I even go anywhere near that thing,

0:56:49.640 --> 0:56:50.800
<v Speaker 5>it's just gonna be a disaster.

0:56:51.160 --> 0:56:53.880
<v Speaker 1>Really with soap, I mean, don't you want it to

0:56:53.920 --> 0:56:55.080
<v Speaker 1>be cleaned your butthole?

0:56:56.040 --> 0:56:58.640
<v Speaker 4>You can't have any butt play whatsoever.

0:56:58.680 --> 0:57:02.799
<v Speaker 6>Her bowels live on the whole, like you know.

0:57:02.880 --> 0:57:05.000
<v Speaker 1>I saw a video the other day about anal sex

0:57:05.000 --> 0:57:08.040
<v Speaker 1>and it says when men go into other men there's

0:57:08.120 --> 0:57:10.719
<v Speaker 1>three sphincter holes. I had learned that there were two

0:57:10.840 --> 0:57:14.120
<v Speaker 1>sphincter holes. So when you have anal sex, there's one

0:57:14.440 --> 0:57:17.360
<v Speaker 1>entryway and then there's a second entryway, and if they're

0:57:17.480 --> 0:57:20.920
<v Speaker 1>really well endowed, there is a third entryway. But I

0:57:20.920 --> 0:57:23.720
<v Speaker 1>think that's only applicable for men because they have a

0:57:23.720 --> 0:57:27.120
<v Speaker 1>scrotum and we do not, so, but for us, there

0:57:27.160 --> 0:57:30.480
<v Speaker 1>are two anal entries one and then boom boom, depending

0:57:30.480 --> 0:57:33.240
<v Speaker 1>on how big the pino is. I didn't either, So

0:57:33.240 --> 0:57:36.400
<v Speaker 1>there's ship wait, there's there's comes out of one. No,

0:57:36.720 --> 0:57:39.400
<v Speaker 1>there's like as deep as it goes then there's like another.

0:57:39.800 --> 0:57:43.680
<v Speaker 1>It's like being in like a labyrinth. There's one one

0:57:44.320 --> 0:57:46.560
<v Speaker 1>that's the entryway, and then if you have a big

0:57:46.640 --> 0:57:50.520
<v Speaker 1>enough penis, there is a second anal opening in the

0:57:50.640 --> 0:57:51.440
<v Speaker 1>same tunnel.

0:57:52.360 --> 0:57:54.479
<v Speaker 6>I think she has one, and that's the problem because

0:57:54.480 --> 0:57:56.919
<v Speaker 6>I feel like it just drops and with like where

0:57:56.960 --> 0:57:58.880
<v Speaker 6>we have to run the red like there's no time.

0:57:58.920 --> 0:58:01.080
<v Speaker 5>It's like where she's sh pants or like I have

0:58:01.160 --> 0:58:03.040
<v Speaker 5>a birth effect. And my mom never told me I

0:58:03.040 --> 0:58:05.240
<v Speaker 5>only have one laveryway.

0:58:06.000 --> 0:58:09.080
<v Speaker 1>Ye should not travel with a thermoss in case you

0:58:09.080 --> 0:58:15.600
<v Speaker 1>need to take a shy in it. Okay, Well, on

0:58:15.640 --> 0:58:17.600
<v Speaker 1>that note, you guys, I just want to thank you

0:58:17.640 --> 0:58:20.520
<v Speaker 1>guys for being here all the way from Canada. I

0:58:20.520 --> 0:58:22.400
<v Speaker 1>can't wait to see you guys again in person. I

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<v Speaker 1>hope that happens sooner than later. Thank you for being

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<v Speaker 1>on the podcast. You were very entertaining.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you so much for having us. It was so

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<v Speaker 4>nice to meet you, Catherine. I can't wait to see

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<v Speaker 4>you guys again.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm your biggest fan now, yay.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you guys, really truly have a great day.

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<v Speaker 1>Bye bye, And for those of you who haven't seen

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<v Speaker 1>my special on Netflix, it's out. Revolution is out and

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<v Speaker 1>it's streaming, and I am announcing a new tour called

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<v Speaker 1>the Little Big Bitch Tour. I am starting again in April.

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<v Speaker 1>I announced a bunch of cities, so it's on my

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram and my website and whatever. But yes, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>back on the road in four months, amazing or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a whole new show and a whole new

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<v Speaker 1>thing and I'm gonna go to our again.

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<v Speaker 2>You're just a busy woman, I am.

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<v Speaker 1>I am. There's a lot going on.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you'd like advice from Chelsea, just send us

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<v Speaker 3>an email at Dear Chelsea podcast at gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Dear Chelsea is.

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<v Speaker 3>A production of iHeartRadio, executive produced by Nick Stuff, produced

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<v Speaker 3>by Catherine Law, and edited and engineered by Brad Dickert.