Speaker 1: Sunday, August eleventh, Jordan's Childs has to return her bronze medal.
Speaker 2: We are just getting word this morning after a Court
Speaker 2: of Arbitration ruled yesterday that Chile's floor exercise score should
Speaker 2: never have been changed in the first place, and therefore
Speaker 2: she never should have been awarded the bronze over the
Speaker 2: Romanian gymnasts.
Speaker 1: Hey there, folks, welcome to another t from Praie edition
Speaker 1: of Amy and TJ. And this is a stunning and
Speaker 1: sad conclusion, we think, to what was perhaps the most
Speaker 1: drama filled and controversial moment in the Paris Games.
Speaker 2: That's right, US Gymnastics, calling the initial court ruling devastating.
Speaker 2: Chiles has said she's leaving social media for now.
Speaker 3: Heartbroken.
Speaker 2: She literally put four emojis of a broken heart when
Speaker 2: she said she was leaving. And we're going to tell
Speaker 2: you exactly what's going on and what the IOC just
Speaker 2: said this morning about this big decision that Jordan child
Speaker 2: has to return her bronze medal.
Speaker 1: Also, chef Curry cooking in Paris, Steph shows out as
Speaker 1: Team Yousa wins a fifth straight gold medal. Also a
Speaker 1: gold medal result for the US women's soccer team, which
Speaker 1: still hasn't lost under new coach Emma Hayes, and breaking
Speaker 1: continues to be the talk of the Olympics, but not
Speaker 1: in the way a lot of people had hoped. We'll
Speaker 1: get to all that, but we have got to get
Speaker 1: to Jordan Chiles Robes. I'll be honest with you, I
Speaker 1: thought it was over. I know there were some appeals
Speaker 1: and protests and things that were out there, and I
Speaker 1: forgot about it. This was almost a week ago that
Speaker 1: that floor exercise competition took place. I'm in shock.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the thing that I thought might happen
Speaker 2: was perhaps they might go back and look at the
Speaker 2: other Romanian gymnasts who did not step out of bounds,
Speaker 2: that maybe they would give her that tenth of a point.
Speaker 3: But that seemed, as you point out.
Speaker 2: A distant memory, it seemed like if something was going
Speaker 2: to happen, it would have happened earlier. A lot of
Speaker 2: appeals go into these types of arbitration, and you know,
Speaker 2: they are denied and they really stand by what happens
Speaker 2: in the field of play, and then they tend to
Speaker 2: go back to that decision not re allocate medals and
Speaker 2: reallocate who won what. It's very rare, and so because
Speaker 2: we hadn't heard anything, we thought this was over.
Speaker 1: Solk. As we speak to you right now, that that
Speaker 1: moment you saw that we all saw. We are being
Speaker 1: told now those three women you saw on the podium,
Speaker 1: it it did not happen. Jordan Chiles did not actually
Speaker 1: win a bronze medal in that event, and that the
Speaker 1: score should have stood, and we saw. We were trying
Speaker 1: to understand why this took places and what's happening next.
Speaker 1: We have a few details to still get, but the
Speaker 1: ioc Ropes did put out a statement about what they
Speaker 1: are working to do next to resolve.
Speaker 3: This, trying to figure out a way for Jordan Chiles
Speaker 3: to physically return her medal.
Speaker 1: If that's the case. I mean, I told you earlier
Speaker 1: that Charlton Helston line. You had to come get that
Speaker 1: out of my cold dead hand. You really think I'm
Speaker 1: gonna put this in the mail for you? You think, I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess they could be penalized if they don't follow
Speaker 1: along with the rules of the governing bodies, and perhaps
Speaker 1: that's what compel her to send it back. But it's
Speaker 1: offensive at this point because all the athletes have been
Speaker 1: done wrong. So the IOC what they are saying is, quote,
Speaker 1: we are in touch with the National Olympic Committee of
Speaker 1: Romania to discuss the reallocation ceremony and with the US
Speaker 1: Olympic officials regarding the return of the bronze medal. That
Speaker 1: statement this morning from the IOC. So we wait for ropes.
Speaker 1: Like I said, this was it seemed like so long ago,
Speaker 1: but it was. It was almost a week ago that
Speaker 1: the competition took place.
Speaker 3: Ah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go back to how this all began. Last Monday,
Speaker 2: August fifth. It was the women's floor exercise competition. Jordan
Speaker 2: was the final gymnast to perform, and her score, the
Speaker 2: score she got initially definitely put her in fifth place.
Speaker 2: We saw Rebecca Andrage of Brazil getting gold, Siman Biles
Speaker 2: got silver, and Anna Barbosu of Romania got the bronze
Speaker 2: third place, and in fact, we saw Barbosu grabbing a
Speaker 2: Romanian flag wrapping it around her, celebrating what would be
Speaker 2: the first Olympic medal for her country in twenty years.
Speaker 2: But then the drama ensued.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the US coach requested an inquiry into Chiles score,
Speaker 1: an inquiry as we all googled after the fact and
Speaker 1: had to learn An inquiry allows judges to go back
Speaker 1: and review a routine to make sure some elements were
Speaker 1: raided properly. Okay, So sure enough they reviewed it and
Speaker 1: changed Child's score by a tenth of a point. That
Speaker 1: was enough to move her to third. She got the bronze.
Speaker 1: This set off really one of the most dramatic, lasting,
Speaker 1: albeit confusing scenes of the Paris Games. We saw Chiles
Speaker 1: sitting there waiting, thinking she was out of the metals.
Speaker 1: The word cames and she is just elated. She explodes
Speaker 1: with emotion and joy at winning. Youxta pose that with
Speaker 1: the images we saw and the heartbreak and the tears
Speaker 1: from the Romanian gymnasts who just found out in fact, no,
Speaker 1: you didn't get that.
Speaker 2: Bronze to your country, and reaction on both sides was
Speaker 2: pretty quick. Romania almost immediately filed and official appeals. The
Speaker 2: country's prime minister said he was boycotting the closing ceremony.
Speaker 2: Romanian gymnastics legend Nadiya komanitch she was not shy at
Speaker 2: all about voicing her displeasure and said Olympic officials were
Speaker 2: messing with the mental health of the gymnasts while she
Speaker 2: was on point there because it was just the beginning
Speaker 2: of what has become just an unbelievable situation for all
Speaker 2: of these gymnasts involved. And meanwhile, yeah, Jordan has been
Speaker 2: the target of vicious attacks online and it's been unrelenting
Speaker 2: for this past week, including what her mom. She's had
Speaker 2: to come to her defense twice on X on Twitter
Speaker 2: calling racist, disgusting comments out, and she has had to
Speaker 2: come to her daughter's defense. It's just been incredibly sad
Speaker 2: and just messy, awful situation that I don't this probably
Speaker 2: makes it even worse.
Speaker 1: And nothing, nothing, not a negative word should be directed
Speaker 1: at any athlete in this at all. They have a
Speaker 1: system and they have rules, and they have people that
Speaker 1: let them down, So anything director of these athletes is absurd.
Speaker 2: To your point, I just wanted to say because I
Speaker 2: loved what Sunny Lee wrote on Instagram. She said, all
Speaker 2: this talk about the athlete, what about the judges? Completely unacceptable.
Speaker 2: This is awful and I'm gutted for Jordan.
Speaker 1: Again, rules are rules, but you have to apply them
Speaker 1: well to also make them fair. So it's been a
Speaker 1: weird weekend and we're waking up with this news today
Speaker 1: just coming down as we were recording here at what
Speaker 1: is at seven am now, But what happened yesterday that
Speaker 1: ended up with all this in motion. Following the Childs
Speaker 1: bronze medal win, Romania sent letters of protest to the
Speaker 1: International Gymnastics Federation. Expected they also sent a request for
Speaker 1: review to the Court of Arbitration for Sport that is
Speaker 1: the organization with the authority to settle sports related disputes.
Speaker 1: And yesterday that court is the one that ruled that
Speaker 1: Child's score should not have been changed after her inquiry. Why,
Speaker 1: they say, Robes, the inquiry came after the deadline to
Speaker 1: submit an inquiry.
Speaker 2: And this is what I'm learning this. I think a
Speaker 2: lot of people are. I didn't even realize there was
Speaker 2: a deadline. There's a one minute deadline, so according to
Speaker 2: the rules, an athlete or their coaches have to request
Speaker 2: an inquiry within one minute of the score being posted. Well,
Speaker 2: the court said that Chile's inquiry came at one minute
Speaker 2: and four seconds for seconds too late, and that is
Speaker 2: why they have returned her score back to below the
Speaker 2: third place.
Speaker 3: So now she's face back thirteen point sixty sixty six.
Speaker 1: They did not even and to be clear here, this
Speaker 1: court did not even consider whether or not her routine
Speaker 1: was scored correctly. They didn't go back and look and
Speaker 1: say that routine deserved a point that was not the
Speaker 1: point they say we had. The review is not legit
Speaker 1: because it did not come within time. Now I was
Speaker 1: asking you robes, do they have a clock? Do they
Speaker 1: know is there a countdown? Who kept the time? And
Speaker 1: how do they know it is a minute?
Speaker 2: For Yeah, I mean you would hope that anyone involved
Speaker 2: with gymnastics team USA Gymnastics would know there's a quick
Speaker 2: window of time to put in an inquiry, and maybe
Speaker 2: they thought they had gotten it in under the one minute.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I've never seen a clock. I never knew
Speaker 2: there was a one minute deadline. So to your point,
Speaker 2: I doubt there's some clock showing the coaches or the
Speaker 2: team or the gymnast you got one minute?
Speaker 1: Then who can query? Then how can you make an
Speaker 1: argument at all? But you can't just say that every
Speaker 1: sport has a I use this earlier a basketball there
Speaker 1: is a twenty four second shot clock. Yeah, I'm looking
Speaker 1: at it. If this ball is not out of my
Speaker 1: hand to shoot this thing by the time that his
Speaker 1: zero there's a violation. You can't just have every body
Speaker 1: looking at when did you start your clock? When did
Speaker 1: you start yours? You can't do that.
Speaker 3: So maybe there is a clock, Yeah, I've just never
Speaker 3: seen it.
Speaker 1: But if there is one. When the coach went and
Speaker 1: said I want to put in an inquiry, the response
Speaker 1: should have been you're too late, you're too late, and
Speaker 1: we wouldn't have had this issue yep.
Speaker 2: But the judges and said instead accepted the inquiry, looked
Speaker 2: into it and made a decision to change the score
Speaker 2: right then and there, a minute and four seconds after
Speaker 2: she finished or her score was posted. That to me
Speaker 2: is where the failure took place. Why they then accepted
Speaker 2: the inquiry and then changed the score. That is where
Speaker 2: the problem happened. And it is not the fault of
Speaker 2: the gymnasts. And it's frustrating to see what's happening. So
Speaker 2: the Court of Arbitration, by the way, who made that call.
Speaker 2: They did not make the ruling about what should happen
Speaker 2: to Charles Bronze medal. In fact, we know that Romania
Speaker 2: asked when they put in their appeals, they asked that
Speaker 2: all three women, the two Romanians who to and Jordan
Speaker 2: all be.
Speaker 3: Given the bronze medal. That was what their request was.
Speaker 3: That was denied.
Speaker 2: So the Court of Arbitration said, hey, it's the International
Speaker 2: Olympic Committee, the IOC, you guys deal with the medals,
Speaker 2: and they just made their ruling.
Speaker 1: And there were three options, like you said, and why
Speaker 1: would three get it? There? Of course Chiles would keep it,
Speaker 1: the other young lady from Romania would get it, but
Speaker 1: the other the argument has been that another Romanian gymnast
Speaker 1: was not scored accurately, and so they're saying all three
Speaker 1: women they requested that, and that seemingly was denied. So
Speaker 1: that was one option that the International Olympic Committee had.
Speaker 1: Option two would have been to take the bronze medal
Speaker 1: from Chiles and then give it to the Romanian gymnast.
Speaker 1: But there was one other option they have, which was
Speaker 1: to give the Romanian gymnast a bronze as well, so
Speaker 1: two women would share it. But they seem to have
Speaker 1: gone with their option two, which is to take the
Speaker 1: bronze medal around from around her neck essentially and give
Speaker 1: it to the Romanian gymnast. That is where we are.
Speaker 1: But Rob, you looked up before this might not be
Speaker 1: the end either based on precedent, because sometimes these things
Speaker 1: ends up ends up in courts and appeals for months
Speaker 1: down the road.
Speaker 3: That's true.
Speaker 2: In fact, I was just reading up about something that happened.
Speaker 2: It wasn't exactly the same, but something similar with skiers
Speaker 2: in Beijing in twenty twenty two, where they went back
Speaker 2: and forth who got third, who got fourth, and they
Speaker 2: ruled one way, they ruled the other way. Eventually, after
Speaker 2: months of whether or not one had to give the
Speaker 2: medal back, they just decided to let both of them
Speaker 2: keep the medal. You know, I don't know if that's
Speaker 2: going to happen, because it's been It was made very
Speaker 2: clear in a headline that she must return her bronze medal.
Speaker 2: How when if those are still questions that perhaps only
Speaker 2: Jordan Giles can answer.
Speaker 1: Bo, you're sitting here at this point, do you do
Speaker 1: you feel? I mean, what do you do? You earned
Speaker 1: it her score, right, you can actually say this though
Speaker 1: we're not arguing about her score. Her score she actually
Speaker 1: scored better than the fact. But she didn't. But you
Speaker 1: said it earlier. Rules are rules. The problem is with
Speaker 1: the application of the rules, and it screws over the athletes.
Speaker 2: It's not their fault, right, we've seen four seconds that
Speaker 2: that would be a huge, a huge margin of winning
Speaker 2: when it comes to a raise and track and field.
Speaker 2: So yes, I get it, like time is important, deadlines matter,
Speaker 2: It can make the difference between winning and losing, and
Speaker 2: so yes, it seems like four seconds is nothing, but
Speaker 2: it's everything in Olympics in a lot of different ways.
Speaker 2: But they didn't apply it in the moment. And that's
Speaker 2: the problem and that's why we're here. And it's frustrating
Speaker 2: and it's sad, and it unfortunately will probably be the
Speaker 2: biggest story out of this Olympics. And it's frustrating for athletes.
Speaker 2: I can't even imagine how Jordan is feeling and how
Speaker 2: the two Romanian gymnasts are feeling. Nobody wins in this situation.
Speaker 2: Nobody wins.
Speaker 1: And you know the other thing, I yeah, that moment
Speaker 1: didn't happen. It might be my favorite picture from the Olympics,
Speaker 1: besides Shakerrill crossing the finish line at the four x
Speaker 1: one and looking over to her opponents, but to see
Speaker 1: Rebecca Androge of Brazil some Own Biles with the silver
Speaker 1: position at the podium, and Jordan Chiles with bronze. That
Speaker 1: was the first time we have ever in the history
Speaker 1: of the Olympics seeing three black folks, three black gymnasts
Speaker 1: on the podium. We've never seen it before. And now
Speaker 1: these folks are telling us, you didn't see it this time.
Speaker 2: It didn't happen. It was a mistake. In fact, they're
Speaker 2: talking about a reallocation ceremony.
Speaker 1: A reallocation ceremony. Those those four of gymnasts. The heart
Speaker 1: goes out to them. They were fail Look where all
Speaker 1: human beings, people screw up. There was a screw up
Speaker 1: here on this scale. It sucks and it hurts for
Speaker 1: everybody involved. But hopefully, I mean when you love, I'm
Speaker 1: sure at some point we're going to see Jordan Giles
Speaker 1: and that gymnast together somewhere in some international competition or
Speaker 1: coming together in some way that maybe calms people down
Speaker 1: because there's a motion on both sides. Yeah, I'm pissed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think everyone feels in somehow betrayed by the
Speaker 2: system and what they said was supposed to work.
Speaker 3: It didn't.
Speaker 2: It failed miserably. But yes, I love you know, you
Speaker 2: see the camaraderie among so many of these athletes in
Speaker 2: these different sports because they understand what it takes to
Speaker 2: get there, and they understand the sacrifice that has taken
Speaker 2: place in order to be the greatest from your country
Speaker 2: to do skills that none of us could imagine doing.
Speaker 2: So I would love to see that, and that would
Speaker 2: be a beautiful moment. And I think there is obviously
Speaker 2: there's more to come on this story, and hopefully, you know,
Speaker 2: maybe it'll take the athletes to make it better and
Speaker 2: to make us all feel better, because certainly the system,
Speaker 2: the judges and these these appeals courts have made things
Speaker 2: worse and what extremely messy.
Speaker 3: I want, you know what I want? I want. I
Speaker 3: want Jordan and I want Anna Anna to keep their medals.
Speaker 2: I think they both deserve that's the one. I think
Speaker 2: they both deserve bronzes. I think taking a medal away
Speaker 2: from somebody who earned it is total bs. And I'm
Speaker 2: told I'm angry for her.
Speaker 1: They told her she earned it. It's not like she
Speaker 1: earned it and they, oh, you cheated with a drug
Speaker 1: test or oh you did something wrong. They told her
Speaker 1: she earned it. You don't take that back from somebody, agreed,
Speaker 1: can't you know? A part of me is I hope
Speaker 1: all of them get together and said, the hell with it,
Speaker 1: take all your metals back. Just send a bronz. We
Speaker 1: don't give a shit. Just all of them. Just don't
Speaker 1: accept them, because this is now too much of a
Speaker 1: mess to If you get it in Romania, do you
Speaker 1: feel good about it? No, your first medal in twenty years.
Speaker 3: Jordan hangs that bronze. Does she feel good about it?
Speaker 3: It's tough. It just sours the whole experience for everyone.
Speaker 1: She could sell it for a lot, probably that medal.
Speaker 1: Talked about metal in the Smithsonian. We know you know,
Speaker 1: I mean I would go, I would go see it.
Speaker 1: I love you, Jordan, keep doing your thing and rooting
Speaker 1: for you even harder than ever. At this point, we
Speaker 1: turn now to Team USA men's basketball and Steph Curry's
Speaker 1: talent translates in any language, but especially in French. He
Speaker 1: put on an international showcase yesterday, Rose. We watched this.
Speaker 1: He helped the US men win a fifth straight basketball
Speaker 1: gold medal against the home team, and it absolutely felt
Speaker 1: like it was a home game for France. The crowd
Speaker 1: was with him yesterday.
Speaker 3: Oh absolutely.
Speaker 2: But Steph scored twenty four points all on three pointers.
Speaker 2: That's insane, and he made eight but four of them
Speaker 2: came in a two minute stretch in the fourth quarter
Speaker 2: that clearly just put the game away, and it was remarkable.
Speaker 1: He was freakish, he was Steph and what we're used
Speaker 1: to saying. But this is great for him. He had
Speaker 1: a kind of a rough start to the Olympics. But
Speaker 1: this is the only thing that's missing. He's got MVPs,
Speaker 1: he's got NBA Finals, MVPs, he's got four chanceampions, She's
Speaker 1: got all these, but he never got an Olympic medal
Speaker 1: first time playing in the Olympics because the past two
Speaker 1: he had injury issues, and then the COVID Olympics as
Speaker 1: well was a bit of a mess and he opted out.
Speaker 1: So he finally got it this time around. So that
Speaker 1: was good to see. But this is a first for
Speaker 1: him and it was cool yesterday. Never to hear the
Speaker 1: announcer say Durant to Lebron to Steph, Right, to think
Speaker 1: of those three guys on the same team was absolutely
Speaker 1: dream team.
Speaker 2: Right continues All right, oh man, we had a blast.
Speaker 2: We set our day around the US women's soccer team
Speaker 2: and they did not disappoint their back on top, taking
Speaker 2: the gold medal after a one to nothing win over
Speaker 2: Brazil and the American women became Olympic champions for the
Speaker 2: first time in twelve years. There has definitely been a drought,
Speaker 2: but with that gold medal, the US is now the
Speaker 2: first team in women's soccer to earn five Olympic gold medals.
Speaker 2: That is a huge feed. But it's been quite the journey.
Speaker 2: Just a year ago, if anyone was following this team,
Speaker 2: they were struggling to even score goals. They didn't advance
Speaker 2: past the Women's World Cup round sixteen.
Speaker 3: But they had a different coach that should be noted.
Speaker 1: Yes, look, give them her credit, and she's fun to watch,
Speaker 1: right coach. She is something about her energy, she confidence
Speaker 1: about her. I like her a lot, not just because
Speaker 1: she's winning. Oh, I guess it helps.
Speaker 3: That definitely is a big part of it. Let's be honest.
Speaker 3: You have lost all her games, say we would not
Speaker 3: be talking. Yeah, what's wrong with her?
Speaker 1: She looks great yesterday. But they this is a team
Speaker 1: that's so much coming into this tournament. Was talking about, well,
Speaker 1: the lowest ranking of the US women ever. They got
Speaker 1: down to number five internationally, and look at what they did.
Speaker 1: They're playing a major international tournament.
Speaker 2: And yeah, oh, my goodness, and it was you know,
Speaker 2: the first half was a little, a little boring. Zero's
Speaker 2: never loved those games, but it meant that they were
Speaker 2: both playing their very best. Early in the second half though,
Speaker 2: right when we came back, Mouse Watson made the one
Speaker 2: and only goal, and I have to give I mean,
Speaker 2: it was remarkable to watch the goalkeeper, Alyssa Naire. She
Speaker 2: made some incredible saves and it was it reminded me
Speaker 2: of what we had our discussion with Brianna Scurry, the
Speaker 2: goalkeeper for a team USA back in the Glory days.
Speaker 2: She said she loved being goalkeeper because it's the only
Speaker 2: player on a team who can determine whether or not
Speaker 2: their team will lose, and when you keep the ball
Speaker 2: out of the net, you ensure that your team is
Speaker 2: not going to lose. Now, Brazil did score, but it
Speaker 2: didn't count because they were off sides. But it was
Speaker 2: a scary moment.
Speaker 3: It was right off. It was in the beginning, right,
Speaker 3: it was in the first half, the.
Speaker 1: First half, and I know it was Zero that this
Speaker 1: is you and I watch a lot of international taker
Speaker 1: when it comes to countries, but this is the only
Speaker 1: I can't imagine watching forty five minutes we get to
Speaker 1: have time in the scores zero zero, and I could say, wow,
Speaker 1: that was thrilling.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: I wasn't in the soccer growing up, and a lot
Speaker 1: of it was because I don't score a lot, but
Speaker 1: it was a thrilling, thrilling first half because they were
Speaker 1: attacking each other and you were shocked that nobody was scoring.
Speaker 1: Uh quite frankly so. And Brazil is just a beautiful
Speaker 1: team to watch, but they didn't look like themselves. Then
Speaker 1: credit the US to that who constantly put pressure on
Speaker 1: it was I'm glad to see them back where we're
Speaker 1: used to them being like it was a bump in
Speaker 1: the row. Wow, you're the number five in the world. Well,
Speaker 1: the US men would go, we would get out of
Speaker 1: parade for them to five.
Speaker 2: They were amazing and I loved at the end the
Speaker 2: loudspeakers were playing Bruce Springsteen's Born in the USA and
Speaker 2: the women.
Speaker 3: Jumping in a huddle celebrating.
Speaker 2: It was just it was one of those Olympic moments
Speaker 2: that you love to watch and witness, all.
Speaker 1: Right, the other Olympic moment that well, we're not sure
Speaker 1: what we watched what we witnessed, and some people don't
Speaker 1: appreciate what we're witnessing when it came when it's come
Speaker 1: to breaking, which is now done. That all that's wrapped up.
Speaker 1: We did see the men in breaking, so all the
Speaker 1: talk day one after the women perform. Unfortunately, some would
Speaker 1: say for those who are really trying to promote breaking,
Speaker 1: was about the young lad Raygun from Australia and her
Speaker 1: questionable moves and how she got there and making a
Speaker 1: mockery and she wasn't really competitive, you know, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I'd explained Raygun, but the guys came back and forth.
Speaker 2: Yees, yeah, there was Yeah, there was no Raygun equivalent
Speaker 2: in the men's breaking competition. But I we had a
Speaker 2: blast watching this one. They were battling it out, some
Speaker 2: incredible moves and there are skill levels and I put
Speaker 2: seamed off the charts because I don't you know, we
Speaker 2: don't know a lot about breaking, so but I was
Speaker 2: blown away by what these men were able to do.
Speaker 1: Do you know that's one of the complaints now, you
Speaker 1: say we don't know a lot about breaking. One of
Speaker 1: the complaints from people in who follow this and who
Speaker 1: are with federations breaking federations, Yes, countries have them that
Speaker 1: there was enough explanation for you.
Speaker 3: You know what that means A good point.
Speaker 1: We see these guys dancing, that's impressive. When you watch gymnastics,
Speaker 1: I don't get that. But somebody's explaining to me what
Speaker 1: this is and what they were trying to do and
Speaker 1: what this There wasn't enough for us to get educated
Speaker 1: to understand what was happening.
Speaker 2: That's a really good point. And look, we have a
Speaker 2: Canadian bee boy who was Asian. His name was phil Wizard,
Speaker 2: but his real name is Philip Kim. That's his bee
Speaker 2: boy name.
Speaker 3: He took the gold. He was incredible.
Speaker 2: He went up against in the gold medal round hometown
Speaker 2: favorite French bee boy Danny Dan.
Speaker 3: His name's danis Silvil. He got silver.
Speaker 2: What you know, this was a cool thing for me
Speaker 2: to see because as they were waiting for the judges decision,
Speaker 2: because they literally just pick who they thought won the
Speaker 2: break battle, and the crowd went wild as both of
Speaker 2: the bee boys hugged each other and we saw that
Speaker 2: a lot. There was a camaraderie between the competitors. They
Speaker 2: were hugging even we saw them do moves alongside each other,
Speaker 2: like syncing up with each other, almost supporting each other
Speaker 2: even though they were battling.
Speaker 4: It felt like the skateboarders, right, yeah, it did, but
Speaker 4: I think it almost felt more like a dance party
Speaker 4: than a competition.
Speaker 2: In a way, Team USA finally representing with the bronze,
Speaker 2: the only medal for the women or the men's even
Speaker 2: though obviously this is the place that breaking was born
Speaker 2: in the Bronx here in New York. But American bee
Speaker 2: boy Victor he was incredible to watch, thirty years old,
Speaker 2: been breaking competitively since he was fourteen. His brother and
Speaker 2: his dad were bee boys as well, so he has
Speaker 2: a long history in that.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's it's.
Speaker 2: Unclear how people feel about it, and it's unclear if
Speaker 2: we're going to see it again. This was the first
Speaker 2: and perhaps the last time we will see breaking as
Speaker 2: an event. It is not currently in the lineup of
Speaker 2: sports for the twenty twenty eight Games in Los Angeles,
Speaker 2: so you know, there's a question mark, and I don't
Speaker 2: know how I I'm not even sure how I feel
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 1: You know, I was so impressed yesterday. I'm not taking
Speaker 1: away from the women, but it was Ray Gunn did
Speaker 1: take away from that competition certainly, and the talk afterwards
Speaker 1: the women were wildly impressive and so much of what
Speaker 1: they were doing. The guys are off the charge in
Speaker 1: terms of they looked like gymnasts when and a lot
Speaker 1: of the moves they were doing it was incredible. What
Speaker 1: ms are I'm looking up? We're watching cycling this morning,
Speaker 1: and somebody just took a nasty fault in cycling. If
Speaker 1: you've been watching any of that speed cycle, my goodness,
Speaker 1: you do not want to fall off that bike as
Speaker 1: you're going around that oval. But incline back to the
Speaker 1: the breaking here we're talking. They were so impressive and
Speaker 1: jaw dropping and so much of what they were doing yesterday.
Speaker 1: I still didn't get her to understand. And some are
Speaker 1: saying that's not necessarily breaking, that's not the culture, the
Speaker 1: subculture what breaking started as to where now it's moving
Speaker 1: in a direction that Americans and the originators of this
Speaker 1: can't even compete because you're changing the rules to turn
Speaker 1: breaking into something it wasn't originally making international but adding
Speaker 1: moves and doing things that aren't these power moves and
Speaker 1: things that aren't the core necessarily of what breaking was.
Speaker 1: But it are you? Are you changing? Is the world
Speaker 1: now revolutionizing the sport or Is it taking it from us?
Speaker 1: Is the question?
Speaker 2: Well? Yeah, I mean I said this yesterday when I
Speaker 2: watched the women There was especially a young woman from
Speaker 2: Lithuania who got into the finals, and she I mean
Speaker 2: it looked like cultural appropriation to a point, like she's
Speaker 2: wearing you know, the head scarves and I don't know,
Speaker 2: I felt a little.
Speaker 3: Icky and a little uncomfy watching it. It is the
Speaker 3: best way for me to describe it.
Speaker 1: And uncomfy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like, should she be wearing that? Should
Speaker 3: she be doing that? I don't know. It felt a
Speaker 3: little How old was she?
Speaker 2: I mean she looked young. They all looked very young.
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, because the American was thirty years old,
Speaker 2: which I was surprised. This is I don't know, I'm
Speaker 2: on the fence.
Speaker 1: But to your point, the young lady f I can't
Speaker 1: remember her name, Nika be girl, Nica, I think from Lithuania. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but she was in a do rag the whole time.
Speaker 1: And this is a teenage little white girl. I think
Speaker 1: she's seventeen, but she's been on the scene for a
Speaker 1: while now. She learned was introduced to break dancing after
Speaker 1: she was watching cartoons on YouTube. Is the story she tells, Okay,
Speaker 1: we should celebrate that some kid in Lithuania is now
Speaker 1: being exposed to something from New York that she now
Speaker 1: picks up and enjoys. I think that's a positive. But
Speaker 1: when she takes it and she then turns it into
Speaker 1: or tries to if she doesn't respect the history, the background,
Speaker 1: and just puts on in part of it, just putting
Speaker 1: on a do rag because I saw a black dude
Speaker 1: do it. That feels icky and wrong, and some people
Speaker 1: were very much turned off by that. Now do ragok,
Speaker 1: some folks might not know with black folks been wearing
Speaker 1: new rags forever. But it serves a functional purpose to
Speaker 1: lay your hair. If you're trying to get waves, you
Speaker 1: put the dow rag on. It sets the waves. Because
Speaker 1: we have coarser hair, that's fine. It protects the hair.
Speaker 1: You sleep in them. Sometimes we get that I didn't
Speaker 1: use do rags, but I've used bandanas before when I
Speaker 1: was in junior high high school. Put it on in
Speaker 1: the morning. It lays the hair a little bit. I've
Speaker 1: you've done this, But to see a little white girl
Speaker 1: just put it on because she's trying to be down.
Speaker 2: That's where I felt itchy and uncomfy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you want to there's a balance you want.
Speaker 1: It is great that this thing from New York has
Speaker 1: made it to the international stage. Let's celebrate. But oh,
Speaker 1: what was alone in eminem I am the worst thing
Speaker 1: since Elvis Presley to use black music so selfishly and
Speaker 1: use it to make myself wealthy. Hey, yes, that's what
Speaker 1: it felt like. We were seeing was something being taken
Speaker 1: and exploited in a way that wasn't what it was
Speaker 1: originally meant for.
Speaker 3: Well, it might be one and done in the Olympics.
Speaker 1: See what's the line here? Where's the line from the
Speaker 1: guy from USA breaking Breaking for Gold USA and Dance USA.
Speaker 1: An organizer said, and I quote that what we saw
Speaker 1: he said, may have alienated too many new viewers. We
Speaker 1: need to change the narrative from the first impression of
Speaker 1: breaking as an Olympic sport. There were significant organizational and
Speaker 1: governance shortcomings that could have been easily reconciled, but unfortunately
Speaker 1: negatively impacted Breaking's first touching point to a new global audience.
Speaker 1: That's him saying that, yeah, wow, that's big. That's from
Speaker 1: Zach Susser, who was with a breaking organization in the US.
Speaker 1: So it was entertaining. It was fun to some, but
Speaker 1: some cringed the whole time.
Speaker 2: It looked like a dance party that maybe I shouldn't
Speaker 2: be watching.
Speaker 1: But have you ever seen a breaking battle like a
Speaker 1: club you if wed, you would want to go every weekend.
Speaker 1: But they don't feel like that. They don't feel they
Speaker 1: feel intimate, they feel personal, they feel I don't know,
Speaker 1: they don't feel like that kind.
Speaker 2: Of authentic even maybe the authentic that might be the
Speaker 2: word that is missing and should have been more focus on.
Speaker 1: Let's not take away from their talent and their yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: all of them amazing to get out of there and
Speaker 1: do it all right.
Speaker 2: We had an amazing morning. You know, I don't necessarily
Speaker 2: like getting up too early, but today back up at
Speaker 2: two thirty am and it was awesome. It was worth
Speaker 2: it to watch the women's marathon Olympic Marathon. It was
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe we feel a little bit closer to
Speaker 2: this because we know what it takes to run a marathon.
Speaker 2: I have no idea what it takes to run a
Speaker 2: marathon in two hours and twenty two minutes, but that's
Speaker 2: what Safan Hassan of the Netherlands pull off this morning.
Speaker 2: Something that no woman has done in Olympic history. She
Speaker 2: got a medal in three of the most grueling races
Speaker 2: at the Olympics, so from track and field. On the
Speaker 2: track to taking it on the marathon course, it was
Speaker 2: remarkable watching her with gas in the tank in the
Speaker 2: last stretch.
Speaker 1: It was crazy and folks ron the best in the
Speaker 1: world are in this event and several dropout. They quit,
Speaker 1: they stopped running. It's that difficult. And there's a crazy
Speaker 1: hill on this course.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Good.
Speaker 1: Some are even shocked it's a part of the marathon course,
Speaker 1: but they're running. Rosalie. I didn't notice it with the
Speaker 1: men yesterday, but today the women going up this hill
Speaker 1: are literally almost leaning completely. It's clear as day when
Speaker 1: you watch it, leaning forward, trying to make their way up.
Speaker 3: This hill, and you can see their gate change.
Speaker 2: I mean, the commentators were seriously overstating how absurd this
Speaker 2: hill was and how they actually couldn't believe that they
Speaker 2: chose to keep it in the race because it be
Speaker 2: a game changer, because that like it was what was
Speaker 2: it like fifteen sixteen miles in the hill game, and.
Speaker 3: It was a long hill.
Speaker 2: But Hassan not only won the marathon this morning. She
Speaker 2: set an Olympic record, and then, as we mentioned, she
Speaker 2: got a bronze in the five thousand meter race and
Speaker 2: a bronze in the ten thousand meter race, and she.
Speaker 3: Ran the ten thousand meter race just a day and
Speaker 3: a half ago.
Speaker 2: We keep hearing the word fresh legs when we see
Speaker 2: the soccer players, ooh, they got fresh legs on the field.
Speaker 3: She did not have fresh legs.
Speaker 1: And yet the commentator we were listening to and that
Speaker 1: this is a this is a direct quote, most impressive
Speaker 1: thing I've seen from a female marathon er. I am
Speaker 1: in shock by what we just witnessed. And those are
Speaker 1: the experts and the marathon runners who are doing the
Speaker 1: commentary that what she did was just incredible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this commentator, she didn't she win the New
Speaker 2: York Marathon, win the Boston Marathon, and she's a two
Speaker 2: time Olympian, so she knows what she's talking about.
Speaker 1: They know it. They didn't so when I hear that,
Speaker 1: so it was just it was incredible. And we watched you.
Speaker 1: You up this morning. You you want to complain about
Speaker 1: being up early. You came out at two thirty or whatever.
Speaker 1: You were chatty Kathy from that year.
Speaker 4: Because I went to bed at seven pm with you
Speaker 4: last night. I sent a photo to my daughter going
Speaker 4: to bed now seven pm hashtag loser.
Speaker 3: But no, it was it was really worth it.
Speaker 2: And we had an amazing day watching the women of
Speaker 2: track and field. It was just it was a great
Speaker 2: final day on the track. Right there another history making woman,
Speaker 2: Faith kipp Yayon. I can never say, is that right?
Speaker 2: Faith kip Ya of Kenya. Wow, she is now the
Speaker 2: first woman to win the fifteen hundred meters gold in
Speaker 2: three straight Olympics.
Speaker 3: And she won by beating her own.
Speaker 2: Olympic record, which was remarkable, and she just she was
Speaker 2: smoking it, smoking it right.
Speaker 1: She really And then she's the greatest. She's considered the
Speaker 1: greatest in the fifteen hundred ever and she never ever
Speaker 1: had done remark.
Speaker 2: And I actually have to give kudos to Jessica Hull
Speaker 2: of Australia she won silver. She just was a powerhouse
Speaker 2: too to see her do that. And then Great Britain's
Speaker 2: Georgia Bell ran the race of her life to take
Speaker 2: a bronze and she scored in a new national record.
Speaker 2: I just I loved watching those women in the fifteen
Speaker 2: hundred meters. I don't know what it was about that race,
Speaker 2: but it was just awesome to see them.
Speaker 1: Because it's a distance race that's quick and every lap
Speaker 1: something dramatic is happening. You're seeing and set up. So
Speaker 1: that's uh, that's fantastic. And rose was another photo of
Speaker 1: finish on the track that resulted in the gold medal
Speaker 1: for Team USA. We're talking about Massi Russell. She edged
Speaker 1: out her closest competitor by one hundredth of a second
Speaker 1: to win the women's one hundred meter hurdles. What was
Speaker 1: that Noah Lyles was five thousand thousands. Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: second that he won. There was another race we saw one.
Speaker 3: By three thousandths, so.
Speaker 1: These are very close. But but yeah, they had to
Speaker 1: go to the photo, but sure enough she ends up
Speaker 1: Missih Russell. This is her first Olympic medal.
Speaker 3: Inst it was amazing.
Speaker 2: And then I have to say it was initially puzzling
Speaker 2: because yes, she won by such a narrow margin. To
Speaker 2: see the silver medalist, who you'd think would be upset
Speaker 2: that she lost that on gold by just that fraction
Speaker 2: of a second, but she seemingly was celebrating more than Russell.
Speaker 2: She was more excited than the gold medalist, and then
Speaker 2: we learned she is now the first and only member
Speaker 2: of Team France to win any medal of any color
Speaker 2: in track and field for her country.
Speaker 3: So you could see why it was a big deal.
Speaker 1: But in that funny sometimes you see her on the
Speaker 1: ground and crying and silver medal and you're thinking, year,
Speaker 1: it's going crazy, but then it it needs context. Yes,
Speaker 1: this is the only one for her, you know what,
Speaker 1: she well deserved. Congrats to her. The women's four by
Speaker 1: four hundred meter relay team goal for the US women
Speaker 1: broken record kind of here rose, but they did have
Speaker 1: Gabby Thomas and Sydney McLaughlin Larne in this race for
Speaker 1: the American women to who the biggest stars on the track.
Speaker 1: But this is not a new thing for the four
Speaker 1: by four hundred relaying.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 2: This is the eighth consecutive gold medal for American women
Speaker 2: in this event and it was the second fastest time
Speaker 2: in history. There is a record on the books that
Speaker 2: goes back to nineteen eighty eight by the Soviet Union.
Speaker 2: They narrowly missed the record by just a tenth of
Speaker 2: the second, so they were almost there. But it was
Speaker 2: all the celebrations of those four women in the pictures
Speaker 2: in the video, it's just it's so worth looking at.
Speaker 2: They were ecstatic and it was awesome to see them
Speaker 2: do what the men couldn't.
Speaker 3: Sorry I had to say it.
Speaker 2: Oh wait, well they did, but it's just that the
Speaker 2: four one hundred.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry, I can't get that out of my head. Sorry,
Speaker 3: I'll let it go. I'll let it go.
Speaker 1: You and Carl Lewis let it go, all.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, Carl Lewis and I.
Speaker 1: We go way back the final day of the Olympics, folks,
Speaker 1: So we've got if you haven't didn't see the marathon
Speaker 1: at two thirty am, like we did. It does replay
Speaker 1: at noon today. Men's water polo, there's a bronze medal
Speaker 1: match for the US men that is going to wrap,
Speaker 1: but the replay will be later if you want to
Speaker 1: see it. Women's volleyball is happening in just a few
Speaker 1: minutes live, but that replay will be along as well.
Speaker 1: But the US are taking on Italy. This is one
Speaker 1: Rhoads in the gold medal match. I said, I will
Speaker 1: not miss.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's right.
Speaker 2: And at nine thirty am, team USA women's basketball gold
Speaker 2: medal match USA versus France. USA, we'll be cheering them
Speaker 2: on and at three pm Eastern time. You can of
Speaker 2: course watch this primetime as well.
Speaker 3: They'll re air it.
Speaker 2: But it's the closing ceremony, and this is a post
Speaker 2: I've never seen a closing ceremony. I've always been on
Speaker 2: a plane headed back to the United States. So this
Speaker 2: is going to be really cool. Remember, Katie Ledecki and
Speaker 2: rower Nick med will be flag bearers for Team USA.
Speaker 3: But here's what we know.
Speaker 2: We've been promised several world class performers. We believe there's
Speaker 2: going to be several prominent performers representing California, and that's
Speaker 2: a nod of course, to La, the next host city.
Speaker 2: We're gonna see Snoop Dogg, who has become a fixture
Speaker 2: in this year's Games. He's like at every event. I
Speaker 2: feel like he's going to play a role in the
Speaker 2: handover Seg. We've got our and b artist Her is
Speaker 2: performing the US national anthem at the ceremony, which is
Speaker 2: going to be amazing to watch.
Speaker 3: And there's always the speculation.
Speaker 2: So far it's proved to be true at least with
Speaker 2: the opening ceremony, but we believe Los Angeles Natives, Billy
Speaker 2: Eilish and perhaps the Red Hop Chili.
Speaker 3: Peppers are going to be part of the event.
Speaker 2: And then Tom Cruise, who we've seen at multiple events.
Speaker 2: I saw him yesterday at the US Women's soccer game.
Speaker 2: He's been at the gymnastics events. He's already in Europe
Speaker 2: filming Mission Impossible eight while they believe, or we're hearing
Speaker 2: that he may be performing some kind of stunt, and
Speaker 2: so we'll see that and he'll be handing over the
Speaker 2: flag to la for the twenty twenty eight Games. And
Speaker 2: then a little more than two weeks from now, Paris
Speaker 2: is going to be the host again of the Paralympics.
Speaker 2: I want to mention that as well. That starts Wednesday,
Speaker 2: August twenty eighth through September eighth, So there is more
Speaker 2: athletic competition ahead for the city of Paris.
Speaker 1: But the story of the day and of the Olympics
Speaker 1: possibly continues to be the Jordan Childs. Jordan Childs being
Speaker 1: told she now has to return her bronze medal after
Speaker 1: that most dramatic of moments, and when she earned that
Speaker 1: bronze medal, there would be plenty more to talk about there,
Speaker 1: but our hearts go out to certainly Jordan Childs, but
Speaker 1: all the gymnasts involved in this. This is not their
Speaker 1: fault and they shouldn't have to be put through this.
Speaker 1: But life is cruel and hard and difficult, and the
Speaker 1: Olympics is no different sometimes and sometimes it's just the worst.
Speaker 1: So they were failed by a lot of people robes
Speaker 1: and it's just heartbreaks for all the women involved.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no better way to put that. This is
Speaker 3: just this.
Speaker 2: There are no there are I mean, everyone's a winner
Speaker 2: for what they did and what they put in, but
Speaker 2: this isn't anything that anybody would want for themselves in
Speaker 2: terms of earning a medal or losing a medal. It's
Speaker 2: just it's messy and it's unfortunate, and hopefully they can
Speaker 2: fix this so it won't happen again. But we will
Speaker 2: continue to bring you all the updates. Tomorrow we will
Speaker 2: have another edition of Tea from Perry for listening.