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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. A somber day

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Speaker 1: here at M and T Banks Stadium as the Ravens

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Speaker 1: fell to the Kansas City Chiefs seventeen to ten in

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Speaker 1: the ANFC Championship and a result that none of us

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Speaker 1: predicted here today. Obviously a brutal loss for the Ravens,

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Speaker 1: who I think we all felt we're team Medestiny going

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Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl and just fell short in one

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Speaker 1: of their most frustrating offensive performances of the year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'd say it's the worst offensive performance

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Speaker 2: of the year. And I thought that the quote that

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Speaker 2: resonated me with me in the locker room and talking

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Speaker 2: with players was actually from Ronnie Stanley, and he said,

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Speaker 2: you can be the better team, but you have to

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Speaker 2: be the better team on game day. And I felt like,

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Speaker 2: that's how I'm looking at this. I don't think the

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Speaker 2: Ravens by their best game. They did a lot of

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Speaker 2: things that were uncharacteristic of them. We'll get into all

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Speaker 2: of that. And as a result, the Chiefs who have

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Speaker 2: been there, done that, showed that they were up to

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Speaker 2: the challenge. And I think that that and if I

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Speaker 2: were to sum it up, and distill it into one

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Speaker 2: reason as to why we could talk about the football things.

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Speaker 2: But to me, the Chief's familiarity and comfort in this

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Speaker 2: situation honestly made the difference.

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Speaker 1: Yep, I totally agree with that. Six straight trips to

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Speaker 1: the AFC Championship for the Chiefs, and it showed it

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Speaker 1: was the Ravens first during the Lamar Jackson era. And

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Speaker 1: you know, the the Chiefs didn't beat themselves and the

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Speaker 1: Ravens did. The Ravens had three turnovers. That was pretty

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Speaker 1: much the story of the game. They ended up with

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Speaker 1: more total yards in the Chiefs, more yards for play

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Speaker 1: than the Chiefs, but they had three turnovers and the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs had zero. The Ravens had penalties that cost them,

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Speaker 1: just you know, unnecessary penalties that cost them. The Chiefs

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Speaker 1: made the big plays in the most critical situations when

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Speaker 1: it mattered, countless third downs, fourth downs that they converted,

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Speaker 1: especially in the first half of this game, that made

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Speaker 1: the difference, and the Ravens did not in many of

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Speaker 1: those instances. And that's what it comes down to at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, and that's how you lose

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Speaker 1: to a team that I agree with you. I think

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Speaker 1: the Ravens are better than them. If this game had

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Speaker 1: gone five quarters, I think the Ravens could have won.

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Speaker 1: The defense had settled in, the offense was starting to

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Speaker 1: move the ball certainly a lot better than they did

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Speaker 1: in the first half. But you ran out of time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they ran out of time. And they also wasted

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Speaker 2: away key situations turnovers basically both two turnovers in the

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Speaker 2: end zone. That's the recipe to lose a game. And

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Speaker 2: I think that, you know, we talked during the week,

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Speaker 2: It's like, Okay, I like the Ravens in all these

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Speaker 2: different ways, but what is it that scares you about

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs? And what scared me? And I think a

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Speaker 2: lot of people about the Chiefs it's the been there,

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Speaker 2: done that factor. And it's the Patrick Mahomes Travis Kelcey duo,

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Speaker 2: who both of those guys are future Hall of famers.

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Speaker 2: They're generational type players. Travis Kelsey might be the best

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Speaker 2: tight end who's ever played the game. Patrick Mahomes is

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Speaker 2: building up quite a resume that put him puts himself

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Speaker 2: amongst the best quarterbacks to ever play the game. He

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Speaker 2: has now been to the Super Bowl four were times.

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Speaker 2: In his six seasons as a starter. He has already

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Speaker 2: won two rings, won two rings, he's already won two MVPs.

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Speaker 2: So I think that, like, this is a player who

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Speaker 2: showed once again today that he plays his best in

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Speaker 2: the biggest moments, And like, I think that your point

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Speaker 2: about situations is one that I totally agree with, Like

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Speaker 2: when there was key situations in this game, even at

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Speaker 2: the very end of the game where it would have

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Speaker 2: kind of been America taking a prayer. But at the

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Speaker 2: end of the game, right before that two minute warning,

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Speaker 2: it's third down, they need to make a play, and

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Speaker 2: their long third and long third and long in that situation,

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Speaker 2: and Mahomes drops back and delivers the pass to marcz

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Speaker 2: Valdez Scantling, who hadn't done anything all day, And that's

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Speaker 2: what it going out right, ends up making the big

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Speaker 2: play in game over, Like in every situation along the way,

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Speaker 2: he came up with plays like that.

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Speaker 1: We went thirty to thirty nine, he missed nine passes

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Speaker 1: and throw it thirty times and the Ravens held him

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Speaker 1: two hundred and forty one yards in one touchdown. But

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Speaker 1: he was surgical. They got the ball out of his

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Speaker 1: little bit of a rhythm, and then he and Travis

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Speaker 1: Kelsey made ridiculous plays. I mean, Travis Kelsey caught eleven

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Speaker 1: Travis Kelcey was a monster, broke Jerry Rice's record for

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Speaker 1: most catches in the postseason. I mean, it was the

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Speaker 1: And the Ravens, you know, just didn't have and it

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Speaker 1: wasn't We talked a lot about the matchup with Kyle

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Speaker 1: lot of as we predicted, it wasn't gonna be a

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Speaker 1: one on one match up. Throughout the game. He made

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Speaker 1: a ridiculous back shoulder touchdown grab. Kyle Hamilton was blanketed

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Speaker 1: on him, he was all over him. Made that ridiculous

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Speaker 1: play the third down where Mahomes had like ten seconds

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Speaker 1: to throw and Lobs went up and his backyard football.

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Speaker 1: Kelsey makes a diving catch in the first half. You know,

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Speaker 1: just those two guys are two of the best football

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Speaker 1: players in the world. They were definitely motivated going into

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Speaker 1: this game. I think hearing how everybody was picking the

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Speaker 1: defense was definitely poked two Bears that are are ultra

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Speaker 1: intense competitors and they went out there in bold.

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Speaker 2: Well, I thought Kelsey honestly showed that from early and

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Speaker 2: even honestly before the game started. He's going through warm

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Speaker 2: ups and he tosses Justin Tucker's helmet and and and

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Speaker 2: warming up, and like, you know, I didn't like that,

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Speaker 2: but I think that, like that that type of stuff

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Speaker 2: was the way that Kelsey wants to kind of set

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Speaker 2: a tone in a message of the type of game

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Speaker 2: that he wants to play. He was chippy and this

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Speaker 2: was a chippy game honestly before it even started.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 2: And you know the Chiefs, Kelsey's great and like he

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Speaker 2: hasn't he hasn't been up to his normal standard this year,

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Speaker 2: but like when the moment was big, and that's kind

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Speaker 2: of like how this game went. Like it's not like

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Speaker 2: that the Chiefs put up seventeen points. Okay, this wasn't

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Speaker 2: like they weren't scoring every single time they put they

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Speaker 2: got the ball, but when they needed a big play

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Speaker 2: in a big moment. They got it just about every time.

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Speaker 1: Yep. Well after their first they had two touchdown drives

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Speaker 2: After that, yep, and no points in the second half exactly.

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Speaker 2: And that's like, one of the things that's so disappointing is, like, man,

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Speaker 2: the defense settled in. It was playing great, Like.

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Speaker 1: We thought that, Oh, if you say you're gonna hold

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Speaker 1: of seventeen, you probably say you're gonna win that game.

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Speaker 1: So let's get into it here. The offense had a

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Speaker 1: brutal outing and what was it that caused that? I mean,

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Speaker 1: certainly we talked about the turnovers. I mean, you had

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Speaker 1: you were a half a yard away from a touchdown

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Speaker 1: And then you go down and loam Arthur's interception. The

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Speaker 1: triple coverage, double backbreaker, right, I mean, that's the ball game. Yeah, really,

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Speaker 1: that's it. And what's especially painful for the Ravens is

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Speaker 1: this is all too familiar. Last year goal line fumble

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Speaker 1: in and tie that game up. It's brutal. There's no

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Speaker 1: other way to put it. To put it, and you

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Speaker 1: feel so bad for Zave Flowers, who had made some

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Speaker 2: I mean, they had a kind of a historic day.

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Speaker 2: You know, he has five catches, one hundred fifteen yards

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Speaker 2: and a touchdown and was a half hour away from

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Speaker 2: another touchdown. Yeah, like it would have been. There was

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Speaker 2: potential for this to be wow if and the guy

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Speaker 2: made a great play on the ball to poke it out.

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Speaker 2: I do think that they had two hands on it.

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Speaker 2: He did reach for it.

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Speaker 1: It's always risky.

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Speaker 2: It's risky when you're reaching for the end zone and

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Speaker 2: I understand you're right there and you have a chance

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Speaker 2: play in the game. So it's a bang bang play

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Speaker 2: and the Chiefs made it. But you know that I

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Speaker 2: felt so bad for Zay because he was You could

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Speaker 2: see the emotion from him during the game and after

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Speaker 2: the game about how badly he felt about that moment.

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Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, I mean he's a guy that uh definitely

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Speaker 1: stuff that you just feel for the rookie. Obviously, you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's AFC Championship game. You've worked so hard

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Speaker 1: a brutal pill of swallow. I'm I'm really getting tired

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Speaker 1: of defenders in the AFC Championships just happened to get

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Speaker 1: their hand in exactly right the right slash wrong spot

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Speaker 1: for the Ravens, right. I mean, got talking about talk

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Speaker 1: about Lee Evans. Lee Evans got the ball in his hand.

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Speaker 2: It's just he was he was going for the ball,

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Speaker 2: it's really tough. I mean the tricky thing too, is

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Speaker 2: you know, honestly before that point the Ravens that put

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Speaker 2: they just really couldn't climb out. The offense early in

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Speaker 2: the game was really out of doors. They opened the game,

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Speaker 2: Bakes Stadium was as electric as I've ever seen it.

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Speaker 1: It was awesome.

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Speaker 2: And then the Ravens get the ball first, three and

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Speaker 2: the bank was still loud all game long, but it

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Speaker 2: lets a little bit of air out when that's how

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Speaker 1: And like the.

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Speaker 2: Offense just early in this game was they had the

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Speaker 2: big play, to say, but it was not like it

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Speaker 2: was moving the ball with any level of consistency in

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Speaker 2: the first half.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the offense was definitely disjointed. I mean, the touchdown

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Speaker 1: the big play to say, the broken plays, really broken play.

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Speaker 1: So the offense didn't really get into any rhythm throughout

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Speaker 1: this game. They didn't run the ball much at all

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Speaker 1: or effectively at all.

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Speaker 2: Sixteen for eighty one yards was the final style line

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Speaker 1: I mean most that was Lamar fifty four yards. I

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Speaker 1: mean the running backs had twenty seven yards. Not even

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Speaker 1: They they eventually kind of started to climb out of it,

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Speaker 1: And you know, the defense, credit to the d They

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Speaker 1: So some other.

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Speaker 2: Notes from this game. You know, the defense did settle in.

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Speaker 1: Kelsey was baiting them. Kelsey was in people's faces, they were,

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Speaker 1: they were It's a shame that things go both ways

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Speaker 1: because it was not one sided talk on the Ravens

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Speaker 1: part in this game.

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Speaker 2: No, but there was one head buttt you know that

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Speaker 2: was the thing. Van Noy came in and I think that, like,

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Speaker 2: and I don't, I'm not. I'm not gonna put one

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Speaker 2: hundred percent of that because van Noy has been in

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Speaker 2: this situation, He's played in championship games. But like the

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Speaker 2: Chiefs seem to like they just they wanted to be

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Speaker 2: the antagonist. It seemed to me, having been in this situation,

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Speaker 2: it just adds another layer of pressure, I guess, And

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Speaker 2: they seemed to do that throughout the game. And that

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Speaker 2: was one of a handful of examples.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the Ravens and Roquan Smith and this

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Speaker 1: defense talk their talk all week long, all season long,

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Speaker 1: and we've talked about it all year. How Hey, that's

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Speaker 1: been awesome. Like that's been the identity of this Ravens defense.

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Speaker 1: And you know, head up, chest out. Yeah, and we've

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Speaker 1: talked about that's this just how it's been. And they

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Speaker 1: haven't backed down from anyone. And guess the Chiefs sitting

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Speaker 1: back down today like this was this is different than

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Speaker 1: you have a rookie last week that with the Texans

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Speaker 1: who they have all the false starts, you have all

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Speaker 1: the penalties. You know, Pat Mahomes has been here, done that.

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Speaker 1: He did not seem phase, No false starts, no false starts.

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Speaker 1: He did not seem phase. You'd not seemed bothered. He

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Speaker 1: did not. He was not osorts. He was calm, cool, collected,

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Speaker 1: and was surgical out there. That was the difference the Ravens.

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Speaker 1: The Ravens were not calm, cool and collected in this game.

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Speaker 1: They just weren't. And you know, experience matters, and hey,

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Speaker 1: hopefully the Ravens get to the point where they were

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Speaker 1: back in the AFC Championship next year and the year

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Speaker 1: after that and the year after that, right and they

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Speaker 1: get that experience. But until you do it, you know,

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Speaker 1: you don't have the experience. And so and it's hard

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Speaker 1: to do like, like Rokwan Smith said, like, we'll be back.

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Speaker 1: But it's a process, you know, like we've all talked

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Speaker 1: about it. It's been a special team. You're gonna lose

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Speaker 1: pieces of this team. You don't know if you're gonna

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Speaker 1: lose coordinators or what. You're gonna lose players for sure,

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Speaker 1: and it's hard to get back here. But the Ravens

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Speaker 1: have Lamar Jackson, they have Iroquen Smith, They're gonna have

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Speaker 1: a lot of pieces. They have Kyle Hamilton, who was

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Speaker 1: arguably the best player on the field for the Ravens today.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna be back. And so you know, it's it

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Speaker 1: looks like a high mountain right now to climb, and

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Speaker 1: it's and I don't know, I don't want to give

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Speaker 1: the whole you know, bullpup speech, bump up speech when

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Speaker 1: you're trying to shake off a loss. But this stuff happens, right.

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Speaker 1: It happened in twenty eleven, right, they came back, and

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Speaker 1: one twenty twelve when they didn't have as good a team.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you know, this was Super Bowls

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Speaker 1: back in New Orleans next year. I waited for that.

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Speaker 2: No, look, it's I guess my final thoughts. It's a

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Speaker 2: really disappointing end to in a lot of ways of

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Speaker 2: magical season. I thought this was a team that had

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Speaker 2: everything moving in the right direction and following this place,

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Speaker 2: I really felt like everything was kind of falling into

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Speaker 2: place for this team. Odell Beckham Junior said it after

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Speaker 2: the game. He felt like this was Lamar's year, and

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Speaker 2: I agree with him. I felt like that was the

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Speaker 2: case that the Ravens were at least going to get

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Speaker 2: to the super Bowl, and that's I think the tone

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Speaker 2: that was in Baltimore all week, and so I think

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Speaker 2: that there's definitely an element of shock that kind of

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Speaker 2: sets in after a game like this. Yea, I thought

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Speaker 2: the Ravens were the better team throughout the season, but

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs were the better team today, and that's how

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Speaker 2: it works in the playoffs, and so it's a really

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Speaker 2: bitter end to a great season for the Ravens.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, well, thanks for sticking with us, everybody. The lounge

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Speaker 1: will keep rolling. We'll probably have locker clean out tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: I would assume, and more reaction, more sad reaction from

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Speaker 1: players to come, Lots of breakdown from us and tons

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Speaker 1: to talk about still as we go into the offseason,

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Speaker 1: tough way to finish. Ravens fans, thanks for listening, and

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Speaker 1: we'll be back with you this week.