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Speaker 1: are just landing on this show for the first time.
Speaker 1: On a Monday during football season, we do a little
Speaker 1: something here called Guessing Lines. UH. It is a tribute
Speaker 1: to the old Stardust radio show featuring the great Roxy
Speaker 1: Rocksborough UH. And this is an exercise designed to extract
Speaker 1: value from the upcoming week's NFL lines. Because I will
Speaker 1: put myself out there. I have been in a cocoon
Speaker 1: since yesterday. I do not know any of the lines
Speaker 1: for a week two and I Am going to guess
Speaker 1: what they are. Chrissie Andrews Mysa who runs the South
Speaker 1: Point Hotel cause Sports Book is going to produce the matchup.
Speaker 1: I will guess what I think the line should be.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about yesterday's games, of course in the process,
Speaker 1: and then he'll tell me what he'll be posting here
Speaker 1: at the South Point Hotel Casino. That's how this works.
Speaker 1: I will put myself out there. I will be incredibly
Speaker 1: wrong on some of these lines inevitably, and I will
Speaker 1: let the hate wash over me. How about that? And
Speaker 1: with that said, let's bring him in Chris Andrews. Everybody.
Speaker 1: Good morning to you, Chrissie. How you doing. I'm doing great,
Speaker 1: jolly and I could see something's never change. You're still
Speaker 1: pulling the more Murphy Brown act with a new producer
Speaker 1: every week. And yes that's true sports doing that. Thanks
Speaker 1: for noticing. Yeah, but yeah, I listen that this is
Speaker 1: uh like my favorite two hours of the week, talking
Speaker 1: to you on Monday mornings. We've been doing this for
Speaker 1: many years now, so I'm looking forward to, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: another another year. We know we're getting started. You know,
Speaker 1: I hope we can standish, is all I keep saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree with that, and mind to my favorite two
Speaker 1: hours of the week as well. And for those looking
Speaker 1: for you know, we will touch on other sports here
Speaker 1: briefly today, but really we dive back into the uh
Speaker 1: the mix of sports and what a day across sports yesterday.
Speaker 1: We'll touch on that briefly, but really we'll get back
Speaker 1: in earnest on it tomorrow. Uh, let us begin without
Speaker 1: further ado, because we have a full slate to get
Speaker 1: to and we'll need all the time. So without further ado, Chris, Uh,
Speaker 1: let us begin. You provide the I. I suppose we're
Speaker 1: starting with a Thursday night matchup and we'll go from there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Thursday night, we got the Cincinnati Bengals at the Cleveland
Speaker 1: Brown Cincinnati at Cleveland. Boy, we're starting with a real
Speaker 1: barnburn on Thursday, week two. Anyway, last week's UH, you
Speaker 1: know game aside, all right, So Cincinnati coming off their
Speaker 1: loss to the l A Chargers, a game they were
Speaker 1: in every position to win at the end yesterday, UH
Speaker 1: couldn't get it done. There was an offensive p I
Speaker 1: called late in the game on the final uh play,
Speaker 1: and then Randy Bullock. I don't know if he pulled
Speaker 1: a calf muscle or if he or if he only
Speaker 1: feigned pulling it after he missed what could have been
Speaker 1: a game tying field goals at the end of that
Speaker 1: game against the Chargers. But the Bengals lose. Joe Burrow
Speaker 1: and his debut twenty three or thirty six for one
Speaker 1: nine three no touchdowns, one pick, was sack three times twice.
Speaker 1: He overthrew open receivers what would have been touched for
Speaker 1: what would have been touchdowns. Yesterday, UH, he did move
Speaker 1: the Bengals as I mentioned the twenty three yard line
Speaker 1: closing minutes, made a rookie mistake. UH forced to shovel
Speaker 1: pass that Ingram picked off Melvin Ingram. That was before
Speaker 1: the last sequence. UH the in character finished where A
Speaker 1: J Green was called for the UH O p I
Speaker 1: in the end zone. And then Randy Bullock missing a
Speaker 1: thirty one yard and when I say missing a thirty
Speaker 1: one yard with two seconds left, I mean really missing it,
Speaker 1: grabbing his left his left calf which he said cramped
Speaker 1: when he planted. That effected the kick. According to Bullock says,
Speaker 1: it's never happened to him before the Browns. UH. Maybe
Speaker 1: the most disappointing of all teams in Week one, Christie,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure not only getting beat by the Ravens,
Speaker 1: no shame in that, but just getting destroyed by the
Speaker 1: Ravens UH thirty eight to six final. In that one,
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield thirty eight, one touchdown, one pick, sack twice.
Speaker 1: Cleveland still hasn't opened with the victories since two thousand four.
Speaker 1: All that said, UM, I don't think the Bengals are
Speaker 1: any good. I think the Chargers just gave them every
Speaker 1: opportunity obviously is outlined to win that game. And we
Speaker 1: have a rookie quarterback in Joe Burrow not only coming
Speaker 1: off his very first game, but now on a short week,
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback, short week from game one to game two.
Speaker 1: That can't be good. I'll say Cleveland by a touchdown.
Speaker 1: Cleveland minus seven. Well, here a little high. It's mostly six.
Speaker 1: I can see, UM. I can see your logic, but
Speaker 1: I like to lower number. You know, I went to UM,
Speaker 1: I have like a very you know, I have a
Speaker 1: very elementary, let's say grading system, you know for the
Speaker 1: game games, and the Browns by far had the worst
Speaker 1: grade of the week. And you know, I bought into
Speaker 1: it because I'm in a couple of contests and I
Speaker 1: had the Browns I think in every one of them too,
Speaker 1: and I fell into that trap of thinking, you know,
Speaker 1: here an all off season boys, this team has tons
Speaker 1: of talent. If they gets the stuff together, look out
Speaker 1: rest of the NFL, because they're really dangerous. I bought
Speaker 1: into all of that they look like the worst team,
Speaker 1: and well from the Jets will probably give a run.
Speaker 1: There's a couple of teams out there look that, but
Speaker 1: they look absolutely horrible. Um So you know, my power
Speaker 1: rating comes to a lot less than that. But I
Speaker 1: do understand your logic. A rookie quarterback or a coach
Speaker 1: who I have a tremendous amount of questions about for Cincinnati, Uh,
Speaker 1: they didn't show, you know. I kept saying, you know,
Speaker 1: coaches like players should get better from year one to
Speaker 1: year two. You know, I mean we're one game in.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure I wanted, you know, sole throw this
Speaker 1: guy completely under the bus. But I haven't seen any
Speaker 1: improvement in his coaching or in the team. And I
Speaker 1: think that's the team that has some underrated talent. So
Speaker 1: my power rings come to a lot lower than six.
Speaker 1: But I do understand the reasoning. And as bad as
Speaker 1: the Browns are, at least they do have more talent
Speaker 1: and they do have a more experienced quarterback, So I
Speaker 1: can see the six. That's what I'm gonna open here
Speaker 1: at the south Point. Okay, No, no, no, huge issue
Speaker 1: with that Cleveland. I don't know what it is. And
Speaker 1: I've said this for a better part of a year now.
Speaker 1: About Baker Mayfield. I don't know if it's the arrogance
Speaker 1: that puts me off, but at some point you have
Speaker 1: to show something on a football field, and at some
Speaker 1: point the fingers have to point at you. I don't
Speaker 1: know if we're at that point yet, but it's creeping
Speaker 1: up that way. So this is a matchup on a Thursday.
Speaker 1: Cleveland should be able to roll this team on Thursday.
Speaker 1: We will see if that's the case or not. So
Speaker 1: you got six there, I got six. Like I said,
Speaker 1: I I think it's a shade high, but I understand
Speaker 1: the reasoning because of everything we just said, and I
Speaker 1: don't think it could. You know, you just can't affego
Speaker 1: the fact that it's a wokie quarterback playing in his
Speaker 1: second game on a short week after you know. I mean,
Speaker 1: he didn't look terrible, which war is my numbers here.
Speaker 1: I was a cube yard though twenty point two. That's
Speaker 1: pretty bad. Um, it was passer rating sixty six point one.
Speaker 1: I always like to look at yards per tempt five
Speaker 1: point four and that's pretty terrible. Um, But he's playing
Speaker 1: another team that looked pretty bad too, so I'd probably
Speaker 1: lean towards taking the points, but I don't think they'd
Speaker 1: be uh going hard hog wild on twenty point two QBR. Remember,
Speaker 1: for folks that scored out of a hundred fifty is
Speaker 1: an average performance. Twenty point two for Baker Mayfield. I
Speaker 1: I had in games on the Chargers, for for for Borrow.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry for Joe Burrow. Yeah not good. Yeah, don't worry.
Speaker 1: Maybe there wasn't much better thirty three point four right, yeah,
Speaker 1: semantics And when it comes to those numbers, um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I had to end games on the Chargers against the Bengals.
Speaker 1: Have no idea how they got there, but based on
Speaker 1: what we just outlined, somehow it did with mistakes from
Speaker 1: the rookie quarterback and then the Shenanigans at the game
Speaker 1: at the end with the O p I and also
Speaker 1: with the shank to field goal. Let's go to Sunday. Okay, Sunday,
Speaker 1: we have the Rams at the Eagles, Rams at the Eagles,
Speaker 1: Rams beat the Cowboys last night for those who missed it,
Speaker 1: for those who were exhausted, like we we typically get
Speaker 1: at the end of an NFL football day, but maybe
Speaker 1: because we're not used to it more so than anything
Speaker 1: Yesterday I had a real hard time getting locked into
Speaker 1: that game last night. I don't know if it was
Speaker 1: the nature of it or just the game flow, but
Speaker 1: the Rams end up beating the Cowboys seventeen. That one
Speaker 1: also featured of p I that came into play very prominently.
Speaker 1: An offensive p I Cowboys with thirty one seconds left,
Speaker 1: Dak Deep to Mike Gallup looked like a completed pass,
Speaker 1: but he shoved off Jalen Ramsey apparently just enough to
Speaker 1: draw the flag, and Jalen Ramsey sold it. So the
Speaker 1: Rams end up preserving the seventeen win. We'll get to
Speaker 1: the Cowboys and their play calling and some questionable play
Speaker 1: calling at that momentarily, but the Rams win that. The
Speaker 1: Eagles lose to the Washington football team. We said it
Speaker 1: about the Washington football team. We'll talk about them later.
Speaker 1: They have a certain strength. If they held the other
Speaker 1: team to a certain amount of points, maybe they can
Speaker 1: win football games. They played it perfectly. But the Eagles,
Speaker 1: they played perfectly to that script. The Eagles were up
Speaker 1: in this game seventeen to nothing. So all that said,
Speaker 1: you think you can win a game where you're up
Speaker 1: seventeen and nothing, where your win probability in game per
Speaker 1: next Gen Stats was nine for the Eagles. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I I that one so much. By the
Speaker 1: way I buy what I buy baseball win probabilities, I'm
Speaker 1: not sure if I buy, but that's what they said.
Speaker 1: Wentz was for two seventy two touchdowns, two picks. He
Speaker 1: was sacked Chrissie eight times, eight times through his first
Speaker 1: interception in attempts going back to last December one, but
Speaker 1: right tackled Jack Driscoll and right guard Nate Herbick there
Speaker 1: starting there, we're starting their first career games. They were missing.
Speaker 1: The Eagles were three time Pro Bowl right tackle Lane
Speaker 1: Johnson and three time Pro Bowl right guard Brandon Brooks.
Speaker 1: So much of the Eagles lack of success yesterday can
Speaker 1: kind of be focused on that and that alone. Rams
Speaker 1: at Eagles. You got a one and no team and
Speaker 1: an O and one team. The Eagles will still be favorite.
Speaker 1: I'll say by two and a half. Yeah, you're right on.
Speaker 1: It's two and a half. But this open higher. In
Speaker 1: a lot of spots last night I saw like three
Speaker 1: and a half and four. It's not a two and
Speaker 1: a half. A little bit of juice on the favorite,
Speaker 1: Uh see a three with money on the dog. My
Speaker 1: numbers are a lot closer to pick. And I'll tell
Speaker 1: you why. You know, you really hit on it. People
Speaker 1: look at injuries, and the first thing they look at it,
Speaker 1: of course, his quarterback. But after that they started looking
Speaker 1: at receivers running backs, probably receivers more nowadays than than
Speaker 1: a couple of years passed. But everybody overlooks those offensive
Speaker 1: line injuries and during the course of the season. And
Speaker 1: by the way, I had Washington and a bunch of
Speaker 1: those contentests yesterday and the watch guys. Actually it's weird
Speaker 1: that because I saw wise thats on both sides of
Speaker 1: that of the Washington Philly game yesterday. But I had
Speaker 1: Washington and it really wasn't a bet on Washington. Was
Speaker 1: more of a bet against Philadelphia really for the exact
Speaker 1: reason you mentioned. With the right side of their line,
Speaker 1: they went from two all pros, the two guys starting
Speaker 1: their very first game. I mean, and whence, what do
Speaker 1: you say, has how many sacks did he have with
Speaker 1: in my notes here yet? Uh? Eight sacks? But besides
Speaker 1: the eight acts, I mean, he was pressured the whole game.
Speaker 1: And you know, I still like wins quite a bit.
Speaker 1: But you know, you had. Last year, he had all
Speaker 1: the skill position players around them suffered injuries. Now this
Speaker 1: year he has all the offensive lineman or his key
Speaker 1: offensive linemen have suffered huge injuries that I think are
Speaker 1: really affecting this team. So my numbers, I'm gonna open
Speaker 1: this low as low as possible right now. I see
Speaker 1: two and a half, like I said, with a little
Speaker 1: juice from the favorite, but stays like this by the
Speaker 1: end of the show. I'll just open the two and
Speaker 1: a half flat. If I see it dropped down even
Speaker 1: a little bit more, I'm gonna I'm gonna try to
Speaker 1: stay under the market on this game at two. And
Speaker 1: you know the Rams, we had a lot of sharp
Speaker 1: money on their rams, and in fact, all the wise
Speaker 1: guys were on the Rams last night. And again I
Speaker 1: understand why you look back at just a few short
Speaker 1: years ago. This team was in the Super Bowl and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, their coach was like the hot guy in
Speaker 1: the whole league. And last year they fell back a
Speaker 1: little bit, not quite that much. I think they missed. Man,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of them uh things with their salary
Speaker 1: cap and that's that sort of thing. But there was
Speaker 1: still a pretty good product that they have on the field,
Speaker 1: and I thought they looked good and they got a
Speaker 1: little lucky to win, There's no doubt about it. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure about that push off at the end um,
Speaker 1: but still a pretty good team may have some respect
Speaker 1: for the Rams that maybe it was overlooked by the
Speaker 1: general public. So I put me down. I like the
Speaker 1: Rams in this spot. I think they that this game
Speaker 1: should be no worse than pick them. Maybe even the
Speaker 1: Rams are very slight favors. I think fully has a
Speaker 1: ton of problems right now. Jared goff Wasy of thirty
Speaker 1: one for two seventy five last night, no touchdowns, one pick,
Speaker 1: was sack once as biggest target was Robert Wood six
Speaker 1: catches for one oh five, a lot of that early
Speaker 1: in the game. I didn't think the Rams were that
Speaker 1: spectacular last night. I didn't think they were that noteworthy
Speaker 1: in any kind of way. So two games, no incidents
Speaker 1: yet with the lines, Chrissy, give me a third. We'll
Speaker 1: do one quick here before the break. Carolina at the
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Carolina loses to the to the Las
Speaker 1: Vegas Raiders. Seesaw game Bridgewater Teddy Bridgewater first start for
Speaker 1: the Panthers, twenty two of thirty four for two seventy
Speaker 1: one touchdown note picks with sack ones. Christian McCaffrey twenty
Speaker 1: three carries ninety six yards, two touchdowns, three catches for
Speaker 1: thirty eight yards, or as defenses like to call it,
Speaker 1: we bottled him up pretty good with those numbers. Actually,
Speaker 1: Robby Anderson six catches for one fifteen and a touchdown.
Speaker 1: But car Carolina has inexperienced secondary and they struggled that
Speaker 1: a rookie cornerback, Tony Pride, he missed one assignment that
Speaker 1: resulted in Henry Ruggs going forty five yards later, same
Speaker 1: corner allowed at twenty three yard touchdown past the Nelson
Speaker 1: Agalore uh, and it didn't happen. It obviously didn't help
Speaker 1: that Dante Jackson went down early in the first quarter
Speaker 1: either their number one corner. UH. The Raiders did start
Speaker 1: two rookies at wide receiver, but clearly those Carolina injuries
Speaker 1: and UH and lack of experience really might have been
Speaker 1: the rule of the day or might have actually been
Speaker 1: the difference, I should say, in that game. So Carolina
Speaker 1: loses to Las Vegas in their opener. Tampa Bay loses
Speaker 1: to New Orleans. No real surprise there. Tom Brady and
Speaker 1: his debuted twenty three or thirty six, two thirty nine,
Speaker 1: two touchdowns, two picks, one of which was a pick six,
Speaker 1: sack three times. He did score on the on the
Speaker 1: first drive of the UH of the season for Tampa Bay.
Speaker 1: They went up seven and nothing, but they end up
Speaker 1: losing to the Saints as uh. Let's call it four
Speaker 1: and a half now, four point closing dogs thirty four
Speaker 1: to twenty three. But it's the pick six. There was
Speaker 1: a mortar kick uh that ended up back in New
Speaker 1: Orleans hands as well. You take those two things out,
Speaker 1: maybe it's a completely different outcome. I don't think this
Speaker 1: is a down grade for Tampa Bay at all here
Speaker 1: after that game, like, I don't think of them any differently.
Speaker 1: I will say, I'll guess ten points here, and we'll
Speaker 1: go to the break here, Christie, and we'll get your reaction.
Speaker 1: But I'll guess ten points. It's a numbers game, it's
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Speaker 1: that guessing lines and numbers game at Visa the Sports
Speaker 1: Betting Network. Chrissie Andrews is here guessing lines in the
Speaker 1: NFL for week number two. What about my reaction before
Speaker 1: the break? Then to the matchup you gave me between
Speaker 1: the Bucks and the Panthers. I got the Buck's mind
Speaker 1: is ten crazy? You're too high? Are you given teams
Speaker 1: a home field advantage? No, but I don't. I actually
Speaker 1: don't downgrade the Bucks at all for yesterday. Well, I'm
Speaker 1: looking at my power raise and I don't let me see,
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't. I might have downgraded. Listen,
Speaker 1: this is kind of tricky. I downgraded them a point. Um.
Speaker 1: I expect them to be really good by the end
Speaker 1: of the year. It's I think it's just gonna take
Speaker 1: a little while for Brady. You know, we talked about
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield's qbr Brady was like one point higher, thirty
Speaker 1: four point six, and Bakers was thirty three point four.
Speaker 1: So I mean, he doesn't have it together yet. I'm not,
Speaker 1: you know, bagging on Brady. I think he looks pretty good.
Speaker 1: Some of the numbers want to reflect that, but I
Speaker 1: think he still looked like the Brady of three, four
Speaker 1: or five years ago, so which by the way, was
Speaker 1: good enough to win Super Bowls. So I'm not bagging
Speaker 1: on him, but I think it's just gonna take a
Speaker 1: while for everything that come together for this team. You know,
Speaker 1: it's old news. Of course, we had no preseason or
Speaker 1: anything like that, so it might take a little bit
Speaker 1: of a while. And he's been known to start slow
Speaker 1: a couple of other years, although Steelers would dispute that.
Speaker 1: But I think you're just too high. Seven and a
Speaker 1: half is what I see. I've see anywhere from seven
Speaker 1: a half to eight half, I'm gonna open seven half.
Speaker 1: I like that better. Um, you know, I thought the Panthers,
Speaker 1: you know, they looked okay, kind of like right about
Speaker 1: where I thought. You know, they had a very good
Speaker 1: game against against Las Vegas UM, which I thought was
Speaker 1: really a pretty good game. But Bridgewater I thought looked
Speaker 1: pretty good, which you know, it was a good thing.
Speaker 1: I always really like this kid coming out of college.
Speaker 1: He had a devastating injury. I'm not sure, however, get
Speaker 1: back to where he was, but I thought he looked
Speaker 1: pretty good and I think this team could stay within
Speaker 1: seven and a half. And by the way, I mentioned
Speaker 1: the home field rating, which I've been talking for years
Speaker 1: that I think it was very much overrated, and this
Speaker 1: year I think it has to be almost nil. But
Speaker 1: Ed saying, did uh a study on it, and he
Speaker 1: put it out on Twitter a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1: In the NFL. Over the last couple of years, I
Speaker 1: think his numbers for home field came like one point
Speaker 1: seven points, and I think that's probably about right. But
Speaker 1: this year, I think it's gonna be nothing. And yesterday
Speaker 1: I think I think it was six dogs one out
Speaker 1: right on the road. So I think I home field
Speaker 1: just not gonna mean anything hardly at all. So I
Speaker 1: think you're a little high with this, And no, I
Speaker 1: don't know if that subconsciously got into your thought process.
Speaker 1: For I think seven and a halfs plenty apps. Like
Speaker 1: I said, I then from seven half to eight and half,
Speaker 1: but I definitely like the lower end of the spectrum. Well,
Speaker 1: and you scared me. I thought you were gonna say
Speaker 1: like six and a half, but at least you're over seven.
Speaker 1: So I'm not I'm not like egregiously laughably off, but
Speaker 1: I will say that it was it about home field.
Speaker 1: To me, it's about what I said before the break.
Speaker 1: If Carolina is playing Tony Pride at corner and if
Speaker 1: they're going to be banged up on the other side
Speaker 1: and not have Dante Jackson playing, If that's the possibility,
Speaker 1: Tom Brady is going to have a field day. So
Speaker 1: that's why I came up with the ten. But you know,
Speaker 1: seven and a half, all right, I won't go crazy
Speaker 1: about that, but I think I like Tampa Bay at
Speaker 1: that number Um show show. Yeah, that's but you're absolutely
Speaker 1: right about home field. Drew Dinsick did a great job
Speaker 1: with this when he was on the podcast earlier the summer.
Speaker 1: By the way, we will put this in podcast for
Speaker 1: him of course at Beating the Book for those who
Speaker 1: missed any parts of this and want to check back.
Speaker 1: But if you do the study of all two fifty
Speaker 1: six games this year, from the first lines that were
Speaker 1: put out, even by the numbers itself, you can tell
Speaker 1: that home field baked into the lines is worth only
Speaker 1: about a point and a half, you know, this season.
Speaker 1: Uh And of course besides Jacksonville, we had nobody in
Speaker 1: the stands yesterday. It should be noted Jacksonville couldn't sell
Speaker 1: all eighteen thousand tickets. It was like just north of
Speaker 1: sixteen thousand. We'll get to that momentarily. That is true.
Speaker 1: We'll get to that. We'll get the details on that.
Speaker 1: We'll do more. We've only gotten through three games, so
Speaker 1: we'll step on it. Guessing lines for a week too
Speaker 1: in the National Football League with Christie Andrews at Andrew's
Speaker 1: Sports by the Way on Twitter right here at Visa
Speaker 1: the Sports betting network. On a numbers game, Let's get
Speaker 1: some more lines with Chrissie Andrews. Let's continue, sir, we're
Speaker 1: behind pace, Chrissie. Let's get it going. We've got the
Speaker 1: Broncos after Steelers, two teams playing tonight. Okay, so do
Speaker 1: we even have a line for this because neither team
Speaker 1: has played obviously, Denver's playing Giants night numbers numbers, Yeah,
Speaker 1: well site unseen, Broncos playing Giants tonight, and uh, Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: excuse me, Pittsburgh playing the Giants tonight, Denver playing Tennessee tonight.
Speaker 1: Pardon me. Pittsburgh now a six point favorite after being
Speaker 1: a three point favorite against the Giants, Tennessee a three
Speaker 1: point favorite after being a three point dog against the Broncos.
Speaker 1: I mean, I would imagine that that pittsg I would
Speaker 1: imagine Pittsburgh will be more than the three point favorite
Speaker 1: in less than a seven. I'll just put the no
Speaker 1: man's land of five and a half as a placeholder.
Speaker 1: I see between five and half and six and a half,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna open six. I have a lot of questions
Speaker 1: really about both teams. Um. You know, I hear Drew
Speaker 1: lock sposedly looks really really good in the preseason, but
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know how much to buy into that.
Speaker 1: I hear Roethlisberger also looks really good, but he doesn't
Speaker 1: have too many weapons right now. He doesn't have uh
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown, he doesn't have Lady on Bill, So I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what else they have. The defense I
Speaker 1: think for Pittsburgh will be great, but yeah, I think
Speaker 1: six and we'll start air and see where it goes.
Speaker 1: Site unseen for both of those teams will have fun
Speaker 1: tonight on MSG plus on Primetime Action Matt Brown, Kelly Bidland,
Speaker 1: Dad Yelle Alvari and myself do doing a Giants game
Speaker 1: in front of the New York audience. That should be
Speaker 1: pretty fun. What's next? Atlanta at Dollar Atlanta Dallas. Atlanta
Speaker 1: loses to the Seahawks. Mattie Ice, Matt Ryan thirty seven
Speaker 1: of fifty four for four fifty two touchdowns, a pick
Speaker 1: in two sacks. But but all of that, not all
Speaker 1: of that, but most of that was garbage time right
Speaker 1: as Maddie Ice just pads the stats. Todd Gurley in
Speaker 1: his debut with the Falcons fourteen and fifty six for
Speaker 1: a touchdown, Julio nine for one fifty seven, Ridley nine
Speaker 1: for one, thirty two touchdowns, Gauge nine for one fourteen.
Speaker 1: They could really fill up a statuet when they're trying
Speaker 1: to catch up in garbage time, but they were oh
Speaker 1: for four on fourth downs, So they lose to the Seahawks,
Speaker 1: and they sublime Russell Wilson, which we'll get to. Dallas,
Speaker 1: as we mentioned, loses to the Rams. Dac was twenty
Speaker 1: five and thirty nine for two sixty six, one touchdown.
Speaker 1: Note picks sack three times, Zeke twenty two of ninety
Speaker 1: six with a touchdown, excuse me, Cooper ten of eight
Speaker 1: ten for eighty one Seedee Lamb and his debut five
Speaker 1: catches for fifty nine yards. But Dallas managed only a
Speaker 1: net of fifteen yards on its final ten plays of
Speaker 1: the game, fifteen netyards on its final ten plays. And
Speaker 1: I did mention earlier if you missed it, Michael Gallup
Speaker 1: making a long catch that would have put the Cowboys
Speaker 1: in field goal range with twenty one seconds left, but
Speaker 1: was called for O p I for contact with Jalen Ramsey.
Speaker 1: Ramsey completely sold it. I'm not so sure it should
Speaker 1: have been called, but let's go back earlier. Chrissie down three.
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy curiously goes for it on fourth and three
Speaker 1: from the Rams eleven with about twelve minutes to play.
Speaker 1: There down three, they could have tied the game up
Speaker 1: rams Rookie safety Jordan Fuller makes a great tackle on
Speaker 1: Cedee Lamb before the marker. I've said this before on
Speaker 1: this show. I've said it often. I think we're in
Speaker 1: an age where a lot of these coaches are listening
Speaker 1: to what they think they're supposed to do based on
Speaker 1: analytics and have no real understanding of what they're actually
Speaker 1: supposed to do on analytics. And some of these play
Speaker 1: calls and some of these decisions just appeared to me
Speaker 1: to be way too cool for school and it made
Speaker 1: no sense of the time. This is not armchair quarterback
Speaker 1: because they didn't get it. But as they're doing I'm like,
Speaker 1: what is he doing? And you know, just added to
Speaker 1: the list of why the Cowboys end up losing this game.
Speaker 1: So also, I have to give a line. I forgot
Speaker 1: Cowboys minus four and all that said Cowboys minus four
Speaker 1: and a half. Yeah, I like your number much better.
Speaker 1: It's like six. And I even see a six and
Speaker 1: a half out there. I like, actually hit a couple
Speaker 1: of six man the first Yeah. I never all off season,
Speaker 1: I didn't buy into this Dallas craft. You know where
Speaker 1: everybody's you know, it seems like every news show I
Speaker 1: watched every day was talking about Dak Prescott and how
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones blew it by not signing him to some
Speaker 1: hundred and some million dollar contract and everything else was
Speaker 1: going to change with the nature of the team. Now
Speaker 1: that you know Herrit's out, the party's in. That was
Speaker 1: a horrible decision. I'm with you. I said the exact
Speaker 1: same thing at the time. How could he not kick?
Speaker 1: I mean, we needed Dallas in the game, so, um yeah,
Speaker 1: men were quite a bit to us. We had quite
Speaker 1: a bit of money on their ramps, um so. And
Speaker 1: and on the other side of the coin, we had
Speaker 1: a lot of money on the Falcons. Now, I know,
Speaker 1: you know they lost, and I just don't understand about
Speaker 1: the statue. Uh they had three guys that over a
Speaker 1: hundred yards receiving and they really kind of we're number
Speaker 1: in the game, you know. Um, but a lot of
Speaker 1: wise Guy money showed on Atlanta before that game. A
Speaker 1: lot of wise Guy money showed against Dallas before that game.
Speaker 1: I think that means something I really do And I,
Speaker 1: like I said, I did six six and a half.
Speaker 1: This number is gonna come down. And I'm with you
Speaker 1: on this side. I think four is much closer to
Speaker 1: where we should be on this game. And uh, like
Speaker 1: I said, I'm not buying into this Dallas crap that
Speaker 1: we here pretty much every Let me interrupt you, Chrissy,
Speaker 1: because we've got let me interrupt you because we've got
Speaker 1: to go to break. But that is the first one
Speaker 1: I really like. Give me. If you're giving me six
Speaker 1: and a half, give me Atlanta for goodness sake, Layton
Speaker 1: vander esh collar bone injury, cam Irving Blake Jarwin both
Speaker 1: didn't return from the injuries. Give me Atlanta coming back.
Speaker 1: Guessing lines Chrisie Andrews a numbers game in visa these
Speaker 1: Sports Betting Network skill, Alexander, It's Christie Andrews. It's guessing lines,
Speaker 1: y'all for Week two in the National Football League. It's
Speaker 1: just like riding a bike. Um, and I have to say,
Speaker 1: Krizzy when you when you you've already uttered the first
Speaker 1: I like your line better and somehow that just warms
Speaker 1: my heart so much. So thank you for that on
Speaker 1: the Atlanta Dallas game. Let me just repeat at the
Speaker 1: end because I think you had something to add at
Speaker 1: the end. If I'm not mistake mistaken, h Cowboys lost
Speaker 1: starting linebacker Layton vander Esh to a collar bone injury
Speaker 1: in the first quarter. He's gonna be out for a
Speaker 1: long time with a collarbone injury. And then right tackle
Speaker 1: Cam Irving tight end Blake Jarwin both didn't return from
Speaker 1: knee injuries in the second quarter. So add that into
Speaker 1: the mix. You had something to add about that game. Well,
Speaker 1: a couple of things real quick. Shawn Lee, who has
Speaker 1: been a terrific linebacker for a long time for them,
Speaker 1: did not dress yesterday, and he's had injury problems throughout
Speaker 1: his career is getting a little long in the tooth.
Speaker 1: But without vanderis where I think it's one of the
Speaker 1: best linebackers in the league. They're really gonna need Lee,
Speaker 1: and I don't know if there's a problem or not.
Speaker 1: The other thing I wanted to say, even more importantly,
Speaker 1: one of the big outfits and far away places just
Speaker 1: is starting to open up right now. They opened five
Speaker 1: and a half. So if you see a six and
Speaker 1: a half, if I were you, I would grab it
Speaker 1: right away. Or I don't often advocate buying a half points,
Speaker 1: but you brought this up to seven. Might not be
Speaker 1: the worst thing in the world. That you could do,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna open five and a half. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: try to stay under the market as much as I
Speaker 1: can in this game. Yeah, and again for those who
Speaker 1: are like, hey, did you really stay in the cocoon?
Speaker 1: I had four and a half. I'm shocked that this
Speaker 1: would be six and a half. Let's move on to
Speaker 1: the next one next week that the Niners at the Jets,
Speaker 1: Niners at the Jets, too, oh and one teams after
Speaker 1: Week one. The Niners lose outright UH to the Arizona
Speaker 1: Cardinals and do so as six and a half point favorites.
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo nineteen two nine, two touchdowns, no picks. He
Speaker 1: was sacked three times. Rahe Moster fifteen for fifty six,
Speaker 1: also caught four balls for yards and a touchdown, But
Speaker 1: the Niners were two of eleven on third down and
Speaker 1: oh for two on four and that'll usually do it
Speaker 1: in high leverage situations. Garoppolo led the Niners down to
Speaker 1: the sixteen yard line at the end of the game
Speaker 1: before throwing an incomplete pass the Trent Taylor on fourth
Speaker 1: and five that ended their late comeback attempt. UH. And
Speaker 1: then the Jets they lose to the Bills, and that
Speaker 1: score probably wasn't as close as the final score indicates.
Speaker 1: Sam Donald thirty five for two fifteen, one touchdown to
Speaker 1: pick sack three times. Jamison Crowder was the big target
Speaker 1: seven for one fifteen and a touchdown, but really most
Speaker 1: of that was on the touchdown, so that's a little misleading.
Speaker 1: And Levian Bell was ruled out in the second half
Speaker 1: due to a hamstring injury. The Jets managed one first
Speaker 1: down on their first five possessions of this game, and
Speaker 1: that pretty much wrote the story for the day because
Speaker 1: the Bills went out to a big lead on the
Speaker 1: strength of that. Only eighteen minutes and thirty eight seconds
Speaker 1: total time of possession for the Jets in that game,
Speaker 1: So the final score of twenty seven to seventeen not
Speaker 1: nearly as close as that score suggests. By the way,
Speaker 1: the Niners just to be thorough lost their game outright,
Speaker 1: uh to twenties six and a half point favorites. But
Speaker 1: San Francisco will be favorite here and I have them
Speaker 1: by a full touchdown. I had San Francisco minus seven here. Chrissie, Well,
Speaker 1: you're dead on at seven. I think that number is
Speaker 1: a little short myself. Um I think the Jets just
Speaker 1: look horrible. Adam Gays looks totally clueless as a coach.
Speaker 1: Sam Donald has regressed, and you know they have a
Speaker 1: a back oop. Evidently they thought quite a bit of
Speaker 1: certainly in the last couple of years. Although, like I said,
Speaker 1: he's regrets. But this is when you're supposed to go
Speaker 1: out and try to load your team with, you know,
Speaker 1: free agents and guys that could get to to a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. This has been the formula in the NFL
Speaker 1: the last couple of years. When you have that quarterback
Speaker 1: on the rookie deal, you have money to spend under
Speaker 1: your cap. You know they did none of that. They're
Speaker 1: totally mismanaged. That poorly coached Donald. I didn't like him
Speaker 1: too much coming out of college. I thought he had talent,
Speaker 1: but he didn't protect the ball ow enough. He needed
Speaker 1: good coaching. He's not getting that. But I you know,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna open seven and I don't want to just
Speaker 1: open seven half. I know it'd be an automatic play
Speaker 1: for guys, but this is what I'm gonna try to
Speaker 1: stay above the market because I think the Jets are
Speaker 1: just absolutely horrible. And I didn't downgrade the Niners too much.
Speaker 1: They've thrown in some clinkers in the last year or two,
Speaker 1: but I think they're gonna still be a really really
Speaker 1: good team and uh, a playoff team and one of
Speaker 1: the NFC favorites to make the Super Bowl, one of
Speaker 1: one of them. I'm with you on all that. Same
Speaker 1: thing up the Niners. I don't downgrade them too much. Actually,
Speaker 1: Cardinals gonna be really good. And I'm with you about Donald.
Speaker 1: Same thing that I said about Baker Mayfield applies to Donald.
Speaker 1: We might not be there quite yet, but we're getting
Speaker 1: there pretty quick. Uh. As to focusing on maybe those
Speaker 1: two guys aren't really gonna make it. Uh. And I
Speaker 1: certainly feel that way about Donald, even more so than
Speaker 1: to do about Mayfield. All right, let's move on to
Speaker 1: the next one here, Buffalo at Miami. All right, Buffalo.
Speaker 1: We just talked about Buffalo beating the Jets. Uh, Jared
Speaker 1: out excuse me, Josh Allen, rather pardon me. Shallon in
Speaker 1: victory thirty three for forty six for three twelve, two touchdowns,
Speaker 1: no picks, uh, sack three times. But on the ground
Speaker 1: Josh Allen doing Josh Allen things fourteen of fifty seven,
Speaker 1: also scored on the ground. But when I say Josh
Speaker 1: Allen doing Josh Allen things, he also lost two fumbles.
Speaker 1: First player to top three hundred yards as the Buffalo
Speaker 1: Bill starting quarterbacks through the air since to Rod, pardon
Speaker 1: me not, Tyrod. To Rod Taylor had three twenty nine
Speaker 1: in a thirty one overtime lost to Miami back in
Speaker 1: you believe that Stephen Digs in his debut with the
Speaker 1: Bills eight captains eighty six yards and as I mentioned,
Speaker 1: with the Jets time of possession, Bills had it for
Speaker 1: forty one minutes and twenty two seconds. Buffalo's d was
Speaker 1: a force in this game. They lost Matt Molana to
Speaker 1: a hamstring injury in the second quarter, and then after
Speaker 1: outside linebacker or excuse, and then and then I believe
Speaker 1: right after he uh he he injured it. I'm trding
Speaker 1: he injured it right after he picked off Sam Donald's
Speaker 1: pass over the middle. And then the Tremaine Edmonds didn't
Speaker 1: return after hurting his shoulders. So the Bills sort of
Speaker 1: overcame those injuries. Tyler Bass choppy day as a field
Speaker 1: goal kicker missed two field goals. Um, and they're playing
Speaker 1: who Miami? You said Miami was a real disappointment to me.
Speaker 1: Yesterday I had them plus the points against the Patriots.
Speaker 1: They didn't really look good at all. Ryan Fitzpatrick twenty
Speaker 1: of thirty, no touchdown passes, three picks, he was sacking ones,
Speaker 1: and they were two of ten on third down. They
Speaker 1: only had two hundred sixty nine total yards of offense
Speaker 1: did the Dolphins, and they lost DeVante Parker, their top receiver,
Speaker 1: who left in the third quarter with a hamstring injury.
Speaker 1: I would imagine Buffalo has got to be favorite here.
Speaker 1: I'm wondering if Miami is going to be this team
Speaker 1: that I chronically feel better about than the market does.
Speaker 1: I have Buffalo minus two and a half at Miami. WHOA,
Speaker 1: you're way low there, he goes, there's the first embarrassment
Speaker 1: of the year. What is it? It's five and a
Speaker 1: half And I even thought that was maybe a little light.
Speaker 1: I'm looking through the numbers here, Fitzpatrick no touchdowns, three interceptions.
Speaker 1: This QBR was seventy two point seven. Yeah, figure that out,
Speaker 1: and I just double checked. That's when he's got you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know where they came up with that number.
Speaker 1: I had Miami two yesterday and I thought I thought
Speaker 1: they would really show. You know, their defense played pretty good.
Speaker 1: I didn't think this Patrick been good. And they're offense
Speaker 1: didn't look that good. And we're talking about Josh Allen,
Speaker 1: I mean, wasn't. He's showing in progress, whereas um, you know,
Speaker 1: Sam Donald is not. I mean, Alan is showing progress.
Speaker 1: He's still wildly inconsistent at times. But he did have
Speaker 1: that three hundred yard game. I thought you were gonna
Speaker 1: say they didn't have a three hundred your games is
Speaker 1: Jim Kelly, uh the way the Buffalo office. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that's another um. But I see improvement out of this kid,
Speaker 1: and I think he fits that team very very well.
Speaker 1: So I see five and a half. I'm probably not
Speaker 1: going to open it six, but I see a four
Speaker 1: and a half out there. I'm gonna stay high on
Speaker 1: the market in this game. I know you've you've been
Speaker 1: a big Miami man, and they've been pretty good catching
Speaker 1: catching points, but I don't I don't particularly like him
Speaker 1: in this spot. I think I think that's a little cheap.
Speaker 1: So I'm opening five and a half. But you know,
Speaker 1: you'll probably on Miami and this one. But there I
Speaker 1: can't join you here. I'm on Miami. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: let one game sort of like take me off of
Speaker 1: my entire feeling on that football team. So I like
Speaker 1: much like I liked Atlanta in that earlier game. I
Speaker 1: think I have a second pick here. I think I
Speaker 1: like Miami. If you're giving me all those points, I
Speaker 1: will take the Dolphins. Let's squeeze in one more here
Speaker 1: before the break. Minnesota at Indianapolis, Boy oh boy. Two
Speaker 1: teams that lost. UM Minnesota loses to Green Bay Cousins
Speaker 1: nineteen two sixty two touchdowns, a pick, sack twice. Feeling
Speaker 1: was a big target six for one ten and two touchdowns.
Speaker 1: They had the ball for for eighteen minutes and forty
Speaker 1: four seconds, but an absence of a pass rush from
Speaker 1: the Vikings. Daniel Hunter was on the men with a
Speaker 1: neck injury. Everson Griffin, now with Dallas after ten seasons
Speaker 1: with the team, and gok Way didn't do anything in
Speaker 1: this game and they got rolled by the Packers. Then
Speaker 1: there's the Colts, who many a survivor pool went down
Speaker 1: with the Colts. Thirty percent of survivor pools went down
Speaker 1: with the Colts alone. By the way, forty two of
Speaker 1: survivor pools already out of the circuit contest. But Colts
Speaker 1: alone Rivers was thirty six or forty six for three
Speaker 1: sixty three and their loss to the Jaguars one touchdown,
Speaker 1: two picks they lost Marlon Mack looks like a roughshert
Speaker 1: Achilles and uh. The theme of young rookie kickers not
Speaker 1: playing well. I mentioned Bass missing two chippies for Buffalo
Speaker 1: Blanketship missed an easy, costly kick for the Colts yesterday
Speaker 1: as well. Rams kicker missed one early. Also, UM, I
Speaker 1: don't know what to make of this game. This to
Speaker 1: me felt pick amish. We have thirty seconds here, Chrissy.
Speaker 1: I liked your number Bettergill. It's three. I uh, Colts
Speaker 1: three and even higher I saw yesterday, but it's coming down.
Speaker 1: I said, if you see a three Flint, I would
Speaker 1: go out and grab it. Yeah, and you know I
Speaker 1: did that thing for Matt humans on quarterbacks. And the
Speaker 1: first thing I said was why did they signed Philip Rivers.
Speaker 1: I I didn't take my chances with Jacko. We were
Speaker 1: set and maybe try to draft one this year. I
Speaker 1: would not go with Philip Rivers. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: change my mind here this game. I think picked on
Speaker 1: this plenty here, and I would not be on the
Speaker 1: colts under any circumstances. Colts By, it makes no sense
Speaker 1: to me. All right, let's just let's review the first hour.
Speaker 1: Chrissy likes two of my lines better, and then one
Speaker 1: of them Buffalo Miami he thought was ridiculous. My part, Uh,
Speaker 1: I like the vikings a lot right there, My goodness,
Speaker 1: all right, the whole it's all this whole exercise designed
Speaker 1: to extract value. I hope you're playing along with us.
Speaker 1: It's guessing lines. We continue with Chrissy Andrews right here
Speaker 1: in the numbers game at Visa, the sports betting network. Um,
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Speaker 1: Still I'd go to Amazon Best man a great honest answer.
Speaker 1: I'd go to Amazon. I don't know about where all
Speaker 1: books are so so they never got into Barnes and Noble.
Speaker 1: I don't know why we we We haven't occasionally at
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Speaker 1: sell out pretty quickly over there, which I guess a
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Speaker 1: all right, let's go to another one. By the way,
Speaker 1: we're still in early games. What is the early late
Speaker 1: game thing? Uh? How does that break out next week?
Speaker 1: With yesterday? Were nine early and three late? Yeah, ten
Speaker 1: early games. I have my TVs in my aneliminate one. Please?
Speaker 1: All right? What's well? I lecross at the by the way,
Speaker 1: we said it before. If I said again, you like
Speaker 1: the Vikings plus three flat, go and grab it now,
Speaker 1: grab it disappearing. Uh. We have the Lions at the Packers.
Speaker 1: We already did it, didn't didn't At the Packers we
Speaker 1: talked about both of those teams opponents. Lions are oh
Speaker 1: and one after their loss to the Bears, which I
Speaker 1: have much to say about, and the Packers. Uh. Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: This just in good at football. Beating the Vikings yesterday
Speaker 1: and beating the Vikings by a score of forty three
Speaker 1: to thirty four by far the highest scoring game in
Speaker 1: the NFL UH this weekend to fourteen. Thirty eight points
Speaker 1: were scored in the fourth quarters the Vikings. Uh did
Speaker 1: a lot in garbage time there. But as far as
Speaker 1: the Packers are concerned, as I said, Aaron Rodgers thirty
Speaker 1: two of forty four for three sixty four, four touchdowns,
Speaker 1: no picks, wasn't sacked at all, his first full game
Speaker 1: he ever played anywhere in Minnesota without being sacked. Davante
Speaker 1: Adams is just his dude. Four team catches for one
Speaker 1: fifty six two touchdowns. Valdes Scanty had a good game too,
Speaker 1: uh four four catches for ninety six and a touchdown,
Speaker 1: five hundred twenty two total yards of offense for the
Speaker 1: Packers held the ball for over forty one minutes. Uh.
Speaker 1: They had their way with Minnesota's defense. Minnesota's defense renovated
Speaker 1: this year. Minnesota's problems that gave you know, Kirk Cousins
Speaker 1: got a big contract. Obviously Dalvin Cook did, so you
Speaker 1: ended up with two quarterbacks named Mike Hughes and Holton
Speaker 1: Hill for Minnesota with their third round draft pick, Cameron
Speaker 1: Danceler saying, plenty of action all of them twenty three
Speaker 1: years of age or younger. No Xavier Rose, no Trey Wayns,
Speaker 1: no Mackenzie Alexander and Aaron Rodgers just feasted on him.
Speaker 1: So the Packers will want to know you think Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers remembers they drafted Jordan's Love their first round pick.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, watch this Jordan Love. Um, Okay, Detroit, They're
Speaker 1: up on Chicago twenty three to seven, and Chicago scores
Speaker 1: makes it twenty excuse me, twenty three to six. Chicago
Speaker 1: scores makes no problem there, right? Uh? Then Detroit is up.
Speaker 1: They they trade a couple of drives, they punch a
Speaker 1: couple of times. Detroit Chrissy is up twenty three to
Speaker 1: thirteen over the Bears with four oh seven left in
Speaker 1: the game. Just over four minutes left, they're up ten
Speaker 1: points and Matt Patricia decides to attempt a fifty five
Speaker 1: yard field goal. Now, how many times through the years,
Speaker 1: on guessing lines and on the megapod and on a
Speaker 1: numbers game have I talked about this? When when they
Speaker 1: kick these long field goals and miss We don't have
Speaker 1: a proper assessment in the National Football League as the
Speaker 1: as to the damage that that does long term. Lombardi
Speaker 1: talks about this too, right, I think Lobarti said there
Speaker 1: were twelve of these attempted yesterday, only five were made
Speaker 1: beyond fifty. So I'm not gonna I'm not gonna play
Speaker 1: armchair quarterback and say that they're all bad, uh, that
Speaker 1: they're all wrong to try, because they're not all wrong
Speaker 1: to try. But when you are up ten points with
Speaker 1: four oh seven left, you do not kick a fifty
Speaker 1: five yard field goal attempt of fifty five yard field
Speaker 1: goal against Mitch Trabinsky and the Chicago Bears, you just don't.
Speaker 1: You punt it. And again, just like what we're talking
Speaker 1: about with Mike McCarthy earlier, going forward on fourth down
Speaker 1: with twelve minutes left, this is not coming, you know,
Speaker 1: armchair quarterback, And this is at the moment I'm saying
Speaker 1: to myself, what in the world is he doing? And
Speaker 1: of course they missed the field goal. Chicago comes down,
Speaker 1: they cut it to twenty three to twenty. Then Matt
Speaker 1: Stafford throws a horrific pick that gets batted up in
Speaker 1: the air and Uh, Chicago scores again give Trabisky credit,
Speaker 1: but the Lions every bit as responsible for their demise
Speaker 1: in this game as anything. Uh. Matt Patricia now has
Speaker 1: blown a fourth quarter lead, Chris in eleven of thirty
Speaker 1: three game he's coached. Think about that, thirty three percent,
Speaker 1: one out of every three games he's coached, they've blown
Speaker 1: a fourth quarter lead. Stafford was seven one touchdown. The
Speaker 1: costly pick I just mentioned was sack Juan's a p
Speaker 1: By the way, Adrian Peterson in his lines, they buw
Speaker 1: fourteen and ninety three just four days after signing. But
Speaker 1: that was the deal. At twenty three to six, they
Speaker 1: give up a touchdown, they miss a fifty five yard
Speaker 1: field goal, then they give up a touchdown, then a pick,
Speaker 1: then gave up another touchdown. Uh. They did drive to
Speaker 1: the Chicago sixteen with a chance to win on their
Speaker 1: final possession, even after all that, and then rookie running
Speaker 1: back DeAndre Swift drops a pass in the end zone,
Speaker 1: just drops it. Uh, And so it's just the most
Speaker 1: Lions thing ever. And then the subsequent play, Stafford throws
Speaker 1: another incomplete pass as time expires to complete the entire collapse.
Speaker 1: But I mean, that's Detroit Lions football, everybody. They opened
Speaker 1: their season by blowing an eighteen point lead at Arizona
Speaker 1: last year and having to settle for a tie. We
Speaker 1: all remember that, and here they go yesterday. Remember they
Speaker 1: finished three twelve and one last year with that one
Speaker 1: being the opener, and now yesterday happens. All that said,
Speaker 1: green Bay minus six, I'll make it just shy of
Speaker 1: a touchdown. Uh, you're pretty much dead on. I see
Speaker 1: a little bit of five and a half as well.
Speaker 1: I like to six a little better, even though my
Speaker 1: power ratings, I'm a shade lord. I think I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have to downgrade Detroit even more. Though after yesterday, yes
Speaker 1: Swift dropped that ball in the end zone. We needed
Speaker 1: Detroit pretty good. It was kind of a weird thing.
Speaker 1: But he had a lot of heard a lot of
Speaker 1: buzz in the off season about how destroy was a
Speaker 1: team they had a big chance to upset that division,
Speaker 1: and I had a lot of money on their season
Speaker 1: wins over etcetera, etcetera, all that sort of thing. But
Speaker 1: then yesterday, for some reason, and I didn't see this
Speaker 1: across the market, but I had a lot of guys
Speaker 1: that bet Chicago with me yesterday. Like I said, I
Speaker 1: ain't see that everywhere else, but we definitely had it. Um,
Speaker 1: so I needed Detroit pretty good when Swift dropped that ball,
Speaker 1: and that was pretty unbelievable. On the other side, I
Speaker 1: thought Aaron Rodgers looked so good. He looked as good
Speaker 1: as he has at any time in his career. I
Speaker 1: can't believe that this team made no moves in the
Speaker 1: off season to try to get Rogers to a Super
Speaker 1: Bowl one more time. They were on the doorstep last year,
Speaker 1: and I know they were much their record was much
Speaker 1: better than they actually were, but they still made it
Speaker 1: to the NFC finals. Um and Rogers uh carried them
Speaker 1: there pretty much, but they he needed a little bit
Speaker 1: of help yesterday this year, and they just never gave
Speaker 1: it to him. Anyway. I see five in that stix.
Speaker 1: I'm an open six, even though my power rings come
Speaker 1: a little lower by like six. I just think people
Speaker 1: are gonna bet the Packers, And I don't know how
Speaker 1: much confidence can you have in Alliance after you know,
Speaker 1: just for everything you just said. Yeah, you know how
Speaker 1: I said earlier that the Eagles had a nine win
Speaker 1: probability per next Gen Stats against the Skins, which I
Speaker 1: against the Washington football team, which I don't necessarily agree with.
Speaker 1: You know that that the whole algorithm with. But here's
Speaker 1: what I do agree with. The Lions had a nine
Speaker 1: eight percent win probability per next Gen Stats win probability algorithm.
Speaker 1: Meet Matt Patricia. That's exactly what happened yesterday. All right,
Speaker 1: what's next? Uh, dear lord? Uh Giants at the Bears? Alright,
Speaker 1: so Giants haven't played there, playing the Stillers tonight, your
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Stellers, um Chicago with that win, Chicago's want to know.
Speaker 1: So I'll say, you know, place holder without having seen
Speaker 1: the Giants, And obviously injuries can happen in that sort
Speaker 1: of thing. But I'll say, uh, Trabisky, by the way,
Speaker 1: twenty of thirty six for two forty two, three touchdowns,
Speaker 1: no picks sacked once in that game. The Bears won
Speaker 1: that game in despite going two of eleven on third
Speaker 1: downs and then Trabiskie throwing the three touchdown passes the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter to rally them from the twenty three to
Speaker 1: six UH deficit. I'll say Chicago as a placeholder by
Speaker 1: three and a half. Just for the heck of it. Well,
Speaker 1: another time I liked your number better, but uh it's
Speaker 1: five and a half and even a six out there.
Speaker 1: Well it looks awful steak to me. You know, I
Speaker 1: don't know what to ticket for Bisky, to be quite honest.
Speaker 1: We did two years ago he looked like he was
Speaker 1: a coming quarterback. Last year he was horrible for three quarters.
Speaker 1: Yesterday he was horrible, horrible, And my dear, my darling
Speaker 1: wife been on Detroit and texted are just as a joke,
Speaker 1: I should take a picture of Rabisky with his helmet
Speaker 1: on because he'll be carrying a clipboard the rest of
Speaker 1: the year. And of course he scores three types after
Speaker 1: eat me and her too, by the way. Uh so,
Speaker 1: I don't know what they think that, you know, five
Speaker 1: and a halfs just looks too high to me. But
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know how bad the Giants are.
Speaker 1: A lot of money showing against him tonight, but I
Speaker 1: kind of like him to night against Pittsburgh, and I've
Speaker 1: got numbers gotten too high, so five and math. I'll
Speaker 1: probably opened five as a placeholder and see if anybody
Speaker 1: wants to do anything with that. You're so right about Drabiskuy, though,
Speaker 1: if that fourth quarter doesn't happen, and obviously the fourth
Speaker 1: quarter did, so none of this is the narrative that
Speaker 1: we'll talk about today. But after three quarters yesterday, he
Speaker 1: was despite all the choppy performances yesterday in the league,
Speaker 1: he was the worst of the worst, right, Like I mean,
Speaker 1: he was missing passes that were just like you couldn't
Speaker 1: believe some of the passes he was missing. But yet
Speaker 1: he gets it done in the fourth quarter of a
Speaker 1: big way. So let's give him credit. And he's got
Speaker 1: the Bears to a one one and no record, at
Speaker 1: least with the assist to Matt Patricia. What's next Jaguars
Speaker 1: at the Titans. Well, you know, what do you make
Speaker 1: of the Jaguars? We were saying tanking for Trevor and
Speaker 1: it's funny, my buddy, he said, he goes, you know what,
Speaker 1: I still think they're taking for Trevor. I think the
Speaker 1: Colts gave them the idea that they could win this game,
Speaker 1: which I think is an interesting take on it. Gardner
Speaker 1: Minshew Chris was nineteen of twenty for a hundred and
Speaker 1: seventy three yards. He had one incomplete pass, three touchdowns,
Speaker 1: no pick, sacked four times, twenty two yard or to
Speaker 1: Quelling Cole was the game winner, the eventual game winner
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. They only had two hundred and
Speaker 1: forty one total yards of offense in victory against the
Speaker 1: against the Colts, as you know, touchdown dogs more than
Speaker 1: a touchdown dog in this game. And as I mentioned earlier,
Speaker 1: there were sixteen thousand, eight hundred tickets available. This was
Speaker 1: the only game that had spectators sixteen thousand, eight hundred
Speaker 1: tickets available in Jacksonville. Only fourteen thousand, one hundred were
Speaker 1: distributed for the league's loan game played with fans in
Speaker 1: the stands on Sunday. And then Tennessee they haven't played yet.
Speaker 1: They played a night too. As we said, their three
Speaker 1: point favorites now after being three point dogs against the Broncos.
Speaker 1: Will see how that goes. But placeholder ish, I'll say
Speaker 1: Tennessee by a full ten because there's nothing Jacksonville did
Speaker 1: that made me say to myself, well, they're good at football. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I see ten is the predominant number for sure. I
Speaker 1: see as low as nine and a half and it
Speaker 1: highs eleven. Um, No, I made tends a pretty good
Speaker 1: place to start. Yeah, they got more than double a
Speaker 1: total yards. Did you realize that? Um so? And uh?
Speaker 1: First down twenty seven to seventeen against them Indianapolis Scott
Speaker 1: but in he got two turnovers. Anyway, we know who
Speaker 1: won again. Mens, you, I thought it looked pretty good.
Speaker 1: But I mean, I think the players on the field
Speaker 1: are tanking for Trevor. But you know, h spelling, fourteen
Speaker 1: thousand seats might have management tanking for Trevor. So we'll
Speaker 1: see what happens there. But yeah, I think I think
Speaker 1: tends Okay, they looked a lot better than I thought
Speaker 1: they would, but let's not go crazy yet. We still
Speaker 1: look up and down that line up that they just
Speaker 1: don't have too many players. I think tends a good
Speaker 1: spot to start here. Yeah, I'm not sure. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure sold is the right word. I think it distributed.
Speaker 1: They didn't even distribute all the taps. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: even know how many how many of those were actual sales.
Speaker 1: I have no idea to look into it further. But
Speaker 1: the point is there were still three roughly just under
Speaker 1: three thousand empty seats that were available. All right, let's
Speaker 1: do another one here. Uh, the Washington football team at Arizona.
Speaker 1: All right, So I'm smiling because let me just say this.
Speaker 1: I've said this about the Washington football team maybe five
Speaker 1: different times during the off season and and and I
Speaker 1: think last year as well. This is the type of
Speaker 1: team that is built with a really good front defensive
Speaker 1: seven and if they can hold the opponent and then
Speaker 1: the number I always used was to seventeen points, they
Speaker 1: can win some games that way. Well, yesterday they held
Speaker 1: their opponent to seventeen points. By the way, they were
Speaker 1: down seventeen to nothing against the Eagles, and they managed
Speaker 1: to win the football game. That is exactly the formula
Speaker 1: that will work for the Washington football team. And it's
Speaker 1: exactly what manifested yesterday because on offense there really hadn't
Speaker 1: much to say. Dwayne Haskins seventeen of thirty one for
Speaker 1: one seventy eight touchdown note picks with sack three times
Speaker 1: paid part. Peyton Barbera did score twice, but it was
Speaker 1: the eight sacks of Carson Wentz. On defense, two from
Speaker 1: Ryan Carrigan, who Skins Fans passes Dexter Manly for the
Speaker 1: all time sacklist UH in Washington football team history, one
Speaker 1: and a half from Chase Young Chris one and a
Speaker 1: half sacks from Chase Young, he forced a fumble, he
Speaker 1: actually kind of forced to. He is a disturbance back there.
Speaker 1: And as I said, all summer there, there was never
Speaker 1: a chance they weren't gonna pick him second at it
Speaker 1: de Matha High school um ninety second career sack for
Speaker 1: Carrigan if you're scoring it at home, And I mentioned
Speaker 1: they had the seven percent win probability they overcome the
Speaker 1: seventeen and nothing deficit and beat the Eagles too. If
Speaker 1: the Giants lose tonight to lead the NFC East by
Speaker 1: themselves at one and oh, if that happens, let's go
Speaker 1: Washington football team. By the way, Daniel Snyder mentioning that
Speaker 1: they could keep the name Washington Football team permanently if
Speaker 1: fans decide that they like that, or as I like
Speaker 1: to put it, that's his of not having to pay
Speaker 1: the investor who who got all those other names. That's
Speaker 1: my hunch. It's called me crazy. Only two hundred and
Speaker 1: thirty seven total yards for the Skins offense. Two d
Speaker 1: thirty seven total yards. Haskins jumped in to give his
Speaker 1: teammates a halftime speech because Ron Rivera was getting a
Speaker 1: pre planned I V in his first game since learning
Speaker 1: has a form of skin cancer. Riverboat Ron he had
Speaker 1: a moment. He went for it on fourth and one
Speaker 1: from the Eagles five with the score tied midway through
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, and then Barbara ran for the first
Speaker 1: down and then scored from the three to give Washington
Speaker 1: to seventeen lead on their way to a twenty seven
Speaker 1: to seventeen victory. So good for the Washington football team,
Speaker 1: but they're at Arizona. Kyler Murray is the real deal.
Speaker 1: Twenty forty two thirty. It doesn't look great on the
Speaker 1: statuet one touchdown, one pick, you know, two time sacked,
Speaker 1: but it's thirteen carries for ninety one yards and a touchdown.
Speaker 1: That's the dimension. And DeAndre Hopkins Chrissy fourteen catches for
Speaker 1: one fifty one. I talked about this on Friday, just
Speaker 1: howiculous that trade was once again. But you know the
Speaker 1: biggest one of those fourteen the throw that set up
Speaker 1: Kenyan Drake's go ahead one yard score with five oh
Speaker 1: three to play that led the Cardinals over the n twenty,
Speaker 1: overcoming a pair of fourth quarter deficits to beat the
Speaker 1: NFC champion Niners. I'll say the Cardinals by seven points
Speaker 1: full touchdown against the Washington football team. I see a
Speaker 1: little bit of seven, but mostly six and a half.
Speaker 1: And that's exactly what my power ladies come to. Before
Speaker 1: we get too far into it, I'm no art critic,
Speaker 1: God only knows, but in the end zone for yesterday
Speaker 1: they have Washington. Then in small owners football teaple, just
Speaker 1: call it. Just call it Washington. That looks so ridiculous. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I'm going off subject here. Uh, you know, Kyler Murray,
Speaker 1: I didn't like him coming out of college. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have to be the first who ad minute. He looked
Speaker 1: really really good. It looked really good last year. It
Speaker 1: looked really good yesterday. Better than the stat sheet, uh projects.
Speaker 1: This team isn't bad. And I'm kind of with you
Speaker 1: on Washington, by the way, I had both teams yesterday
Speaker 1: and my various contest very nice. I think Washington, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, Washington in there in the trenches is pretty
Speaker 1: darn good, and we just tend to overlook that when
Speaker 1: they don't have the skill position players that make the headlines.
Speaker 1: But you know, they're not bad in the trenches. And
Speaker 1: I thought it was a good match up because I
Speaker 1: thought Philly was particularly vulnerable in the trenches. Um, but uh,
Speaker 1: I think six and naps are good number. And I
Speaker 1: think both these teams might be well. Washington I had
Speaker 1: near the bottom of my power raying Arizona kind of
Speaker 1: in the middle. But Washington might be a little better
Speaker 1: than advertising. I think even Arizona might be a little
Speaker 1: better than advertised too. That makes six naps a good number. YEP,
Speaker 1: I got no problem with it. We've got four games
Speaker 1: to get to. I assume we're in the afternoon next week,
Speaker 1: and then we'll get to uh the Sunday and Monday
Speaker 1: night affair only tonight the double header exists for Monday
Speaker 1: night football. And again remember it's Pittsburgh and the Giants.
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh favored by six, up from three, and then in
Speaker 1: the nightcap Tennessee and Denver, Tennessee now favored by three
Speaker 1: a mile high in the Mile High City, I should say, uh,
Speaker 1: once being three point dogs, now three point favorites. Obviously,
Speaker 1: von Miller's injury having a lot to do with that.
Speaker 1: Courtland Sutton is still a game time decision for the
Speaker 1: Broncos in that one. So doubleheader coming tonight seven ten
Speaker 1: Eastern ten ten for the Tennessee Denver game. Three hours
Speaker 1: after that, we'll get to more guessing lines. Four more
Speaker 1: games to get to week two, not only here on
Speaker 1: a numbers game at Visa and the Sports Betting Network,
Speaker 1: but also on the Beating the Book podcast. Coming right
Speaker 1: back with Chris anders It's Gill Alexander. It's Chris Andrews
Speaker 1: guessing lines for week two in the National Football League.
Speaker 1: If you're just landing on the show, it's a tribute
Speaker 1: to the old start up show. I'm in a cocoon.
Speaker 1: I'm guessing lines. I've been on it more than most,
Speaker 1: but there's been about three games already. We're I have
Speaker 1: been woefully off on and I think in two of
Speaker 1: those three cases Chris said like my number better, but
Speaker 1: in a third the opposite. But nonetheless, the exercise is
Speaker 1: designed to extract value first look at the upcoming week's
Speaker 1: NFL lines, and that is the point of this entire exercise.
Speaker 1: By the way, I mentioned, you could very well be
Speaker 1: playing this, or really should be playing this interactively with
Speaker 1: us guests along with Chrissy once he gives the matchup.
Speaker 1: Guests along with me, uh Cliff Ritter one oh one.
Speaker 1: I also enjoyed talking to Chris and Gil for two
Speaker 1: hours every week, even though they never seem to hear me. Yeah, though,
Speaker 1: that's the problem. We can't hear you. That's that is
Speaker 1: the one thing about the interactive thing that I left out. Um,
Speaker 1: all right, Chris, let's do one more here. Ravens at
Speaker 1: the Texas, Ravens at the Texas. Well. The Ravens couldn't
Speaker 1: have looked any better as they crushed the Browns thirty
Speaker 1: eight to six, picking up right where they left all,
Speaker 1: I guess, not picking up right where they left because
Speaker 1: they lost in the playoffs, but you know what I
Speaker 1: mean from the regular season standpoint. And then there's Houston,
Speaker 1: which will have extra rest. Hey, there's the first time
Speaker 1: we get to say extra rest after they're loss to
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, which wasn't nearly as close as the final
Speaker 1: score suggested the fourteen point margin of defeat on this
Speaker 1: past Thursday night to the Chiefs. But Baltimore yesterday against
Speaker 1: the Browns. I mean, what do you say about Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson twenty of twenty five or two seventy five, three touchdowns,
Speaker 1: no picks, sacked twice, but he led the team in
Speaker 1: rushing also seven carries for forty five yards. Remember he
Speaker 1: had thirty six touchdown passes last year. Marcus Brown was
Speaker 1: his favorite target five for one oh one, but he
Speaker 1: also got it to Snead four for sixty four and
Speaker 1: a touchdown. Mark Andrews two touchdowns on the tight end
Speaker 1: position with five catches for fifty eight total. J K.
Speaker 1: Dobbins added two touchdowns in his debut the criminally underrated
Speaker 1: j K. Dobb Ins at Ohio State. Even as much
Speaker 1: as hype as he got, I thought it was criminally underrated.
Speaker 1: And then there's Houston on Thursday night. Watson twenty of
Speaker 1: thirty two and defeat for two fifty three, one touchdown,
Speaker 1: one pick, was sacked four times, got it to Fuller
Speaker 1: the fifth eight times or one twelve. But man, did
Speaker 1: they miss DeAndre Hopkins, who, as I mentioned, caught fourteen yesterday.
Speaker 1: You know, for the Cardinals, I'll say Baltimore, this is
Speaker 1: at Houston. I'll say Baltimore minus six. Give DeShawn Watson
Speaker 1: a little respect. You're a little like six and a half.
Speaker 1: I even see one seven out there. I gotta tell you,
Speaker 1: I liked the seventh bet or here. Once again, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say it probably probably most of the year I'm
Speaker 1: not giving anything for home field advantage to these teams.
Speaker 1: And uh yeah I had my notes. Boy, I think
Speaker 1: they could use DeAndrea Hopkins in the game. Um but anyway, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, Lamar Jackson, I thought last year, you know,
Speaker 1: he deserved to be in the unanimous MVP, which he was.
Speaker 1: But I even do ast year, I always said I
Speaker 1: liked the Shawn Watson better long term, I'm not so sure, man.
Speaker 1: This kid still looks really really good. And you know
Speaker 1: what I think of John Harbazer coach. I think he's terrific. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, Texas have to say thank you, Mr schedule maker.
Speaker 1: Scheduled in the top two teams in the league. Wee
Speaker 1: just oneed to Oh it gets worse and not worse,
Speaker 1: but it continues to be tough for them for the
Speaker 1: first four to seven weeks of the season. It's a
Speaker 1: brutal schedule for Houston. Yeah, they do they geez, they couldn't.
Speaker 1: They couldn't draw any worse for games one and two.
Speaker 1: But I made this number eight. You know, I think
Speaker 1: even seven the shade blow. But I'm gonna open at seven. Um. Well,
Speaker 1: I just think this Raven team is really really good
Speaker 1: and I believe I don't thing much of Cleveland. They
Speaker 1: showed to be terrible yesterday, but a lot of that
Speaker 1: had to do with just exactly how good Baltimore is.
Speaker 1: You know, they were the best team, you know, weeks
Speaker 1: went through sixteen last year. They just lost in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: and you know, you can't make excuses they lost their loss,
Speaker 1: but you know they you know, they're my My grading
Speaker 1: systems still have them the number one team in l
Speaker 1: A and I still have them at a tie with
Speaker 1: Kansas City right now. And uh, you know, I just
Speaker 1: I think they should be more than a touchdown here.
Speaker 1: I'm not crazy about land points, but I think the
Speaker 1: favorites probably the late Tiger. I'm gonna open seven. You know,
Speaker 1: I went through the mechanics again of that DeAndre Hopkins
Speaker 1: David Johnson trade, uh, this past Friday after the Texans
Speaker 1: game on Thursday night, and again Bill Barna went when
Speaker 1: he wrote the grading of that trade for Houston, he
Speaker 1: gave it an F and he said, to DeAndre Hopkins,
Speaker 1: lose a limb that I didn't know about. But it
Speaker 1: really can be distilled. So I won't get into the
Speaker 1: mechanics of the trade again, but it just can be
Speaker 1: distilled to this one sentence. The Houston Texans, with apologies
Speaker 1: Deshaun to Deshaun Watson, got rid of their best player
Speaker 1: for a song. It's just unforgivable. Coming back Guessing lines
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Speaker 1: Guessing Lines continues week number two. Christie Andrews, who runs
Speaker 1: the sports book here at the South Point Hotel casino
Speaker 1: at Andrew's Sports on Twitter. The name of the book
Speaker 1: is then one day, Chris, do we have by my account,
Speaker 1: do we have one more afternoon game on Sunday? Uh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: one more and Sunday and Monday night. All right, we'll
Speaker 1: get to the prime time after the break. What's the
Speaker 1: last afternoon game? Chiefs at the Chargers. Chiefs set the Chargers. Okay,
Speaker 1: so the Chiefs win, they're on extra rest. They beat
Speaker 1: the Texas. We just talked about Patrick Mahomes of thirty
Speaker 1: two for two eleven, three touchdowns, no picks. He was
Speaker 1: only sacked once in in what you Know, I was
Speaker 1: doing the MSG plus show Primetime Action, which we do
Speaker 1: Monday through Friday night for those who missed it. We
Speaker 1: started this last week. I'm doing double duty now, so
Speaker 1: MSG plus if you have it in your cable package
Speaker 1: or on your dish. We do in game betting Monday
Speaker 1: through Friday night seven to tend Eastern four to seven Pacific,
Speaker 1: And from my vantage point watching it live while doing
Speaker 1: a show, which isn't always the most nuanced take, it
Speaker 1: just looked like Andy Read and the Chiefs were like,
Speaker 1: let's not show much. Let's just kind of get out
Speaker 1: of here with the win without injuries. We'll just do
Speaker 1: our thing. We won't really open up the playbook. Clyde
Speaker 1: Edwards Hilaire twenty five for one, thirty eight in a
Speaker 1: touch and he was a bell cow. I think that
Speaker 1: was the biggest surprise. I have him his Rookie of
Speaker 1: the Year before the season started, but I didn't think
Speaker 1: he'd be a bell cow. Uh. Ten straight wins now
Speaker 1: dating to last season for the Kansas City Chiefs, the
Speaker 1: charges we mentioned hold on for dear life. Against the Bengals,
Speaker 1: they get a really bad Joe Burrow decision late on
Speaker 1: a shovel pass that Melvin Ingram picked off. Then they
Speaker 1: get an o P I called on a j Green fortuitously.
Speaker 1: Then they get Randy Bullock to either pull a calf
Speaker 1: muscle or not, but shanked what could have been a
Speaker 1: game tying field goal with thirty a thirty one yard attempt,
Speaker 1: just a thirty one yard attempt. So they overcome all that,
Speaker 1: they overcome Joe Burrow over just overthrowing two guys for
Speaker 1: a touchdown as well, and they somehow win. But the
Speaker 1: Chargers are just doing they just do Chargers things. To
Speaker 1: Rod Taylor was sixteen and thirty for two oh eight.
Speaker 1: This team is way more talented, I think than their
Speaker 1: performance suggests. But they just looked terrible to me yesterday.
Speaker 1: And by the way, you know, Anthony Lynn with some
Speaker 1: strange decisions, we'll get we we have a full season
Speaker 1: to go. After Anthony Lynn, I'll say the Chiefs by ten,
Speaker 1: I mean, it can't be less than ten, right, Wow,
Speaker 1: I see eight and eight and a half, and that's
Speaker 1: just what my power ratings come through. I definitely like
Speaker 1: the eight and a half a little better. Um and
Speaker 1: might be a little much, but maybe not, maybe not.
Speaker 1: And I always say Chargers tend to do chargery things. Well,
Speaker 1: they tried to do it yesterday. But don't worry because
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers still big chargery things even though he's in
Speaker 1: Indian Appolis. Still, um, yeah, the Chiefs you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: they dominated and looked like it was here. Yeah, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: they dominated, you know, so I think they got a
Speaker 1: lot more left in the tank. I don't know if
Speaker 1: they're going to show it this week either, but they
Speaker 1: could win by ten standing on their heads. I like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna use the higher number here like that not
Speaker 1: a power ratings uh number, but more like just thinking
Speaker 1: could easily happened. So I kind of like the Chiefs
Speaker 1: in a little bit in this spot, but I like
Speaker 1: getting half better than certainly Okay, yeah, I think it's
Speaker 1: one of those I mean, I'm with you, right, The
Speaker 1: Chiefs could win by twenty and it wouldn't surprise me
Speaker 1: they go with my seven. It wouldn't surprise me if
Speaker 1: they just take their foot off the gas. But well,
Speaker 1: I just wanted to point this out from what I
Speaker 1: said right going into the break about DeAndre Hopkins, because
Speaker 1: that sort of got lost going into commercial. I went
Speaker 1: through the mechanics of that DeAndre Hopkins trade at the
Speaker 1: during Friday show after the Thursday night game against the Chiefs,
Speaker 1: But like I really mean when I said, like at
Speaker 1: that moment when they made that trade. There are there
Speaker 1: were people defending that trade for the Houston Texans and I,
Speaker 1: you know, and I didn't get it at the time
Speaker 1: and I still don't get it, and all it took
Speaker 1: us one game to bear it out. Obviously it's only
Speaker 1: one game, but like when you trade, this is the
Speaker 1: it's the one sin you cannot justify. You can't trade
Speaker 1: your best player for nothing and then act like there's
Speaker 1: some football bases to it, like, because you completely lose
Speaker 1: your fan base doing that. If I was a Houston
Speaker 1: Texans fan, I would be so angry at that at
Speaker 1: allowing Bill O'Brien to make trades like that. And there
Speaker 1: seems to be this underlying thing with that football team.
Speaker 1: I know we're not talking about the Texas anymore, but
Speaker 1: I just want to make this point. There just seems
Speaker 1: to be something underlying with that football team or I
Speaker 1: just wonder it's like, do they really trust Bill O'Brien,
Speaker 1: like those those players is play for and wow, you
Speaker 1: trade me at any moment. Anyway, I just want to
Speaker 1: say that the chi the Chiefs destroyed them, and I, uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I firmly believe they could roll the Chargers here. I
Speaker 1: could see them keeping it close. You have it at
Speaker 1: eight and a half in the end, Chiefs Chargers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm okay, all right, we'll get to the primetime games.
Speaker 1: We'll have one more break. We'll get to the Sunday
Speaker 1: night game next week. Uh and the Monday night game.
Speaker 1: So far, I like three of those. Still, Minnesota against Atlanta,
Speaker 1: that's the one I think that I like the most.
Speaker 1: Minnesota against Indiana, Indianapolis, excuse me, Minnesota against Indianapolis. I
Speaker 1: like Atlanta getting all those points against the Cowboys, and
Speaker 1: I like the Dolphins getting all those points against the Bills.
Speaker 1: That Ravens one was interesting though, against Houston getting more
Speaker 1: than a touchdown. I have to rethink that one coming back.
Speaker 1: We'll wrap it up prime time right here, guessing lines
Speaker 1: on a numbers game at Visa these Sports Betting Network
Speaker 1: Skill Alexander, it's chrisy Andrews. Let's do some primetime games
Speaker 1: guessing week two lines. Let's go Sunday night, Chris, New
Speaker 1: England at Seattle, New England at Seattle. Both teams want
Speaker 1: to know New England behind Cameroon Newton, as tim As
Speaker 1: Todd Wishnett was saying on the podcast this week, cameeron Newton.
Speaker 1: Cam was fifteen of nineteen for one fifty five, no
Speaker 1: touchdowns through the air, no picks, was sacked twice, but
Speaker 1: he was fifteen of seventy five on the ground for
Speaker 1: two touchdowns. The added dimension of having Cam Newton instead
Speaker 1: of Tom Brady. It will take Tom Brady, but you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Uh, And they get the win
Speaker 1: over Miami and do so in much greater fashion than
Speaker 1: I certainly thought they would. Uh. Seattle beats Atlanta. Let
Speaker 1: me just say this, Russell Wilson is the leader in
Speaker 1: the clubhouse for National Football League MVP, a man who
Speaker 1: has never received a single solitary vote in his entire
Speaker 1: career for m v P, which has to be the
Speaker 1: most ridiculous stat that exists in pro football. But yesterday
Speaker 1: he was thirty one of thirty five thirty one of
Speaker 1: thirty five for three twenty two, four touchdowns, no picks.
Speaker 1: He was sacked three times. By the way he led
Speaker 1: his team in rushing tells you about Seattle's running game.
Speaker 1: He only had twenty nine yards rushing, but he had
Speaker 1: a twenty eight yard led the team in rushing as well.
Speaker 1: And may I just say his past the dk metcalf
Speaker 1: DK Metcalfe caught four passes for ninety five yards and
Speaker 1: a touchdown, but that touchdown was on a fourth and
Speaker 1: five at the Atlanta thirty eight, and it made the
Speaker 1: score twenty one to twelve. Russell Wilson lofted what might
Speaker 1: be the prettiest past you'll ever see all year. Could
Speaker 1: have just walked up to him and placed it in
Speaker 1: his hands. It wouldn't have been any better than the
Speaker 1: passing through five hundred six total yards of offense for
Speaker 1: the Hawks. Uh Seahawks are gonna be a favorite. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say they're more than a field goal favorite, Chris.
Speaker 1: I'll say they're minus three and a half. They are four.
Speaker 1: And I even see a little four and a half.
Speaker 1: I think I like the four. That like the four better. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, okay, first of all, you're talking about Russell Wilson,
Speaker 1: you know, and they talked about in the obviously and
Speaker 1: you heard a lot about it. Who would you start
Speaker 1: your team with? Almost everybody said Patrick Mahomes, you know, reasonable,
Speaker 1: uh ye statement, But if my number two picks would
Speaker 1: still be Russell Wilson because all these other young quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: you know, Jackson Watson already run down the list. We
Speaker 1: hope they're going to be good, and they think they
Speaker 1: will be. But I know this kid's good. And when
Speaker 1: I just read thing for Matt Humans about quarterbacks, if
Speaker 1: he never throws another path, that's like he's a he's
Speaker 1: an automatic Hall of Famer. I can't believe how good
Speaker 1: this kid has been. I just can't believe it. All
Speaker 1: that being said, I think can't Cameron Newton. I think
Speaker 1: he's gonna be great for New England in the short term,
Speaker 1: but you can't run the ball like that throughout the
Speaker 1: whole season at his age. I mean, you know, and
Speaker 1: he's coming off injury problems, but right now he can.
Speaker 1: You know, he certainly can, you know week one, and
Speaker 1: I think I'll be able to do a week too.
Speaker 1: So I think there's number a shade high and anything. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, you have to adjust these um according to
Speaker 1: how are they gonna play like right now? And right
Speaker 1: now I thought three was actually a decent number. I
Speaker 1: think I have no beef with the four because I
Speaker 1: think Seattle is really really good. But I think New
Speaker 1: England is gonna be very good as long as Newton
Speaker 1: could stay healthy. I just don't think he could do
Speaker 1: this for sixteen games at his age is history of injuries.
Speaker 1: I don't think you can, you know, but right now
Speaker 1: I do think you can. I would lean towards taking
Speaker 1: the number in here. I want to jump all over.
Speaker 1: I think four might be a shade high, but it's
Speaker 1: four and four and a half. I'm gonna open four here.
Speaker 1: I'm with you about New England, and I ain't got
Speaker 1: no beef with No. Four either. I guess three and
Speaker 1: a half. But if it's four or four and a half,
Speaker 1: that that sounds probably even better to me. Uh, Seattle,
Speaker 1: New England. Maybe. I mean, that's a great Sunday night
Speaker 1: game to watch though, that's for sure. Next week between
Speaker 1: the Patriots and the Seahawks Monday Nights, Sir New Orleans
Speaker 1: at Plus Vegas. Another game between two one and oh teams.
Speaker 1: New Orleans doing so by beating the Buccaneers. We talked
Speaker 1: about that earlier, in a game that probably again, if
Speaker 1: you don't have to pick six. I know it's ifs,
Speaker 1: but if you don't have to pick six and you
Speaker 1: don't have that mortar kick, maybe it's a completely different outcome.
Speaker 1: But they get the win and then the Raiders in
Speaker 1: a very back and forth game with the Panthers end
Speaker 1: up getting it done. Drew Brees for the Saints. Let's
Speaker 1: start there in a battle, uh, the historical battle of
Speaker 1: the oldest quarterbacks ever to face each other in NFL history.
Speaker 1: Drew Brees really didn't light it up. Eighteen of thirty
Speaker 1: for one sixty two touchdowns note picks. He was sacked once.
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas, two time All Pro wide receiver Michael Thomas
Speaker 1: appeared to be limping in the fourth quarter in in
Speaker 1: a game in which you only have three catches for
Speaker 1: seventeen yards. So and we've said this about Breeze for
Speaker 1: a while now, he kind of seems washed, a little
Speaker 1: washed up a little bit to me, like, I don't
Speaker 1: know if that's I really don't know if there's the
Speaker 1: arm strength Las Vegas Raiders. If you're a Raiders fan,
Speaker 1: I guess you gotta be happy about this. Derek Carr
Speaker 1: twenty two of thirty for two thirty nine one touchdown
Speaker 1: note picks, wasn't sacked. Josh Jacobs and ninety three, not one,
Speaker 1: not two, but three touchdowns. The Raiders scored on six
Speaker 1: of their first eight possessions against the young Carolina defense,
Speaker 1: as I mentioned that started three rookies, but they needed
Speaker 1: an offensive stop a defensive stop to seal the victory.
Speaker 1: The we're trailing thirty four to thirty were the were
Speaker 1: the Panthers, and then Panthers new offensive coordinator Joe Brady
Speaker 1: called a handoff to fullback Alex Arma instead of Christian
Speaker 1: McCaffrey on fourth and inches at midfield. He was stopped
Speaker 1: at the line with one minute eleven seconds left. McCaffrey
Speaker 1: racked up a hundred thirty four yards from scrimmage and
Speaker 1: scored two touchdowns, but the Panthers elect to go away
Speaker 1: from him on the most crucial play of the game.
Speaker 1: By the way, they lost both right tackles two injuries
Speaker 1: did the Raiders Trent Brown in the first quarter, Sam
Speaker 1: Young in the third quarter? Um Saints are gonna be
Speaker 1: favorite more than a field goal, less than touch I'll
Speaker 1: say four and a half and five and a half,
Speaker 1: look a blanket. That's pretty much what I see. My
Speaker 1: numbers come to higher than that. And I'm kind of
Speaker 1: with you on Breeze. I think even last year, you know,
Speaker 1: the offense and like, yeah, you know, I told you
Speaker 1: I wonder about Roethlisberger's tools around them. I don't wonder
Speaker 1: about readers tools around those. You've got some really good
Speaker 1: ones um and a really good offensive coach. Defense looked
Speaker 1: pretty good, I thought, but that may had just been
Speaker 1: Brady getting used to his new offense. A lot of
Speaker 1: money showed on New Orleans yesterday, quite a bit, and
Speaker 1: all from money from players that I highly respected. And
Speaker 1: again I think that has to mean a little something.
Speaker 1: My power rings do come higher. Again. I'm not giving
Speaker 1: any for any home field, but I think this is
Speaker 1: a shade light. I'm gonna wind up opening five and
Speaker 1: a half, but if this number goes up, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go up with it because I think a lot of
Speaker 1: the public will be on the Raiders with their first
Speaker 1: game here in town, even though there's not gonna be
Speaker 1: any fans in the stand. Uh. But I think it's
Speaker 1: a shade light. I think I kind of feeling New
Speaker 1: Ralengs the right side here, all right, Chrissie, Just like
Speaker 1: riding a bike. As I said earlier week two, guessing lines,
Speaker 1: we got through it. I don't know how we did,
Speaker 1: but we did. And let me just review and I'll
Speaker 1: get to you right after this. What you are looking
Speaker 1: at um, but for me, Minnesota, Atlanta and Miami, Minnesota,
Speaker 1: Indiana at Indianapolis. I thought that was ridiculous that you
Speaker 1: said indian Apples was a three point favorite. You already
Speaker 1: mentioned it's coming down, But if you can find the threes,
Speaker 1: grab it immediately for goodness sake. I like Minnesota. I
Speaker 1: like Atlanta. If I'm getting six and a half of dollars,
Speaker 1: that doesn't make any sense to me. And then Miami,
Speaker 1: I guess two and a half. I was way off
Speaker 1: on this guest as well, but this is the one
Speaker 1: of the three that you weren't on my side with.
Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna let one game sway me. I
Speaker 1: like all those points for Miami against Buffalo, and the
Speaker 1: other one I'll can say, I'll say, I'll really I
Speaker 1: will reconsider. Pardon me that I said Baltimore minus six
Speaker 1: against Houston. You're saying you like it a little more
Speaker 1: than the seven. I might have been off on that,
Speaker 1: but those are those first three for sure. What about you? Well,
Speaker 1: I agree with you whole hardly on two of them.
Speaker 1: I like Atlanta. I think that that number is way
Speaker 1: too high. I like Minnesota. I think I don't know
Speaker 1: why the Colts will be the favorite. And I like
Speaker 1: the Rams against an equal team that I think just
Speaker 1: has way too many injuries right now, and I think
Speaker 1: this plays well into the Rams hands. So that's the
Speaker 1: that's the three games I like quite a bit this week.
Speaker 1: And that's and that's Chris andrew Yeah, that's the right,
Speaker 1: the first of all, that's Chris Andrews, the contest player talking,
Speaker 1: not the bookmaker talking right there, right, and and yes
Speaker 1: we should that's the caveat that we say every every
Speaker 1: time with Guessing Lines. We have an entire week now
Speaker 1: to to just have our brains destroy what we thought
Speaker 1: and initially and completely talk ourselves out of our initial
Speaker 1: reactions to this. But oftentimes the initial reaction is the
Speaker 1: best for sure, Christie, I appreciate it man as always,
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, my pleasure, Chris YouTube, Take care
Speaker 1: Chris Andrews. Everybody Week two Guessing Lines will talk to
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