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Speaker 1: On this episode of NEUTRALD. I am always amazed when

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Speaker 1: to the new point of view. My guest today solve

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Speaker 1: that our aging population sometimes encounters challenges with mobility, isolation,

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Speaker 1: I'm really pleased to welcome my guest, Chris Brickler. He

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Speaker 1: is the co founder and CEO of Mind and Mercy,

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Speaker 1: a national health and wellness company providing virtual reality solutions

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Speaker 1: to the dramatically growing senior market. The company has curated

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Speaker 1: a vast library of VR content and creates original programming

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Speaker 1: designed for both recreational and therapeutic effects. In addition, mind

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Speaker 1: amrcive is working with leading universities and researchers to study

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Speaker 1: the potential health benefits of VR for our dynamic and

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Speaker 1: aging population. Chris, welcome and thank you for joining me

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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much. New very exciting to be

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Speaker 1: Look, before we get into healthcare and virtual reality, which

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Speaker 1: I am very interested, take us back. What did your

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Speaker 1: early career look like and how did that lead you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, so I've been thirty years or so

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Speaker 3: early history. When I was thirteen or fourteen years old,

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Speaker 3: But it got me very interested in technology and telecommunications.

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Speaker 3: So when I came out of college in the nineties

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Speaker 2: And then I got a job.

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Speaker 3: At GTE, which became Verizon, and we built at that

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Speaker 3: I also went to London for three years with British Telecom.

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Speaker 3: You can imagine this new sort of spatial computing I

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Speaker 1: It seems to me that this is an example of

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Speaker 1: had to come together. Could you just talk from Henry

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Speaker 2: It's a great question, you know.

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Speaker 3: I think I saw that same demo when you're on

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Speaker 3: reposition their brain into a music concert where they're hearing

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Speaker 2: Of the Paul.

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Speaker 3: You've got so many different ways you can lift that

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Speaker 3: their consciousness with music, with art, with travel. We offer

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Speaker 3: people the opportunity that have become less mobile to still

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Speaker 3: So you know, getting people out of those four walls

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Speaker 2: So obviously when you.

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Speaker 3: Think about AI and all the things we're doing at AI,

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Speaker 2: When we think about AI for good, Chris.

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Speaker 1: When you talk about the ability to measure the elasticity

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Speaker 3: So as we put this solution out into the field,

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Speaker 3: Mind is build a fairly substantial data set that can

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Speaker 3: be then passed on to the caregiving organization to say, hey,

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Speaker 3: George has really experienced a better mood over the last

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Speaker 3: to do more exercises on mind around catching butterflies in

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you two questions, but the one I

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Speaker 1: she said, you know, what would really work better would

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Speaker 1: you may already be doing this. If we could build

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Speaker 1: a virtual reality trip to the Moon, either by going

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Speaker 1: the next generation of young Americans could experience the potential

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent plausible? Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think what we're uncovering in this journey that we're

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Speaker 3: any technology unlocked memories. And that's sort of where we're

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Speaker 1: And I'd love to get to you with JAREDI Sigmund,

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Speaker 1: that could be made available to everybody. You took all

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Speaker 3: Talk us through that right, Well, so again, when I

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Speaker 3: when the birds fly south, I always fly north, just

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Speaker 3: But I think as we institutionalize this immersive technology into

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Speaker 3: we know this platform can help. We're really happy with

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Speaker 1: Christus is an extraordinary set of breakthroughs. It's going to

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Speaker 3: I would first let folks know that they can learn

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Speaker 1: Wow, this has been amazing, Chris. I want to thank

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Speaker 1: Our listeners can learn more about Mind Immercy and the

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Speaker 1: great work you are doing visiting your website at mind

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Speaker 1: that's m y n d Atmercy dot com. Thank you

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Speaker 1: very much for being here.

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Speaker 2: Thank you Newton, this has been a great experience. I appreciate.

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