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Speaker 3: I'm ready to explode. I need baby oil and maybe cigarettes.

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Speaker 3: What did I tell you?

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Speaker 4: I told you, Parker, I told you Parker. Everybody pooh

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Speaker 4: poohed me nessing. All those people up.

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Speaker 3: In Boston specific they switching four E, pushed back on

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Speaker 3: oh Chris Bus, push back on me. Everybody did rob g.

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Speaker 3: They disrespected me five years ago.

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Speaker 4: What did you say for you? Five years ago? I

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Speaker 4: went here? What did you say? I said? And we

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Speaker 4: got the tape? Here we go, okay for performance. Let

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Speaker 4: me hear.

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Speaker 3: Rewind more will come out and you will have more

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Speaker 3: disdain for this franchise.

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Speaker 4: Do not embrace this.

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Speaker 3: Do not embrace Bill Belichick, Do not embrace Tom Brady.

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Speaker 3: Push away the New England Patriots. They are not worthy

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Speaker 3: of praise. They have smudged the game of football. They

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Speaker 3: have tarnished what could have been a great legacy.

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Speaker 4: And if I had a Hall of Fame vote, which.

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Speaker 3: I do not have, for the Pro Football Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 3: Tom Brady and Bill Belichick would not get my vote.

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Speaker 3: They've done more damage than they've accomplished in this NFL.

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Speaker 1: I thought you said, you said that that's me. That

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Speaker 1: sounds right back.

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Speaker 4: More will come outs. Ago have more to say for

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Speaker 4: this franchise. Different right, Crazy? What in the helium when

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Speaker 4: you're sucking? That was not you?

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Speaker 5: That is me?

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Speaker 1: Five years No, crazy, that was not you. But continue

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Speaker 1: you have some joints, Rob Guh. I just want you

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Speaker 1: to bring up the Pro Football Writers. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: gotta admit.

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Speaker 3: It took some balls to do this, and I'm impressed

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Speaker 3: by the Pro Football writers. I'm not a member of

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Speaker 3: the Pro Football Writers Association BBWA and baseball, but not

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Speaker 4: Is nineteen eighty seven.

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Speaker 3: But I have mad respect for them to be able

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Speaker 3: to say you shouldn't be rewarded for cheating. Well, somebody's

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Speaker 3: farheaded this, but remember Robert Craft isn't in Remember he

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Speaker 3: didn't get he dying to get it.

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Speaker 4: He didn't get and he's eighty five years old, eighty

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Speaker 1: Whatever day he wants to get, it's not he doesn't care,

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Speaker 3: And now Bill Belichick is not in the first ballot.

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Speaker 3: If I'm Tom Brady, my shorts are brown at home,

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Speaker 3: same thing to Tom Brady.

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Speaker 4: And think about this.

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Speaker 3: B Brady got suspended by the league for the whole

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Speaker 3: the flake gate.

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Speaker 4: Remember that he got suspended for four games, Rob G.

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Speaker 6: I mean you kind of gave it away there, Rob,

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Speaker 6: But yes, Bill Belichick, what an eight times Super Bowl

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Speaker 4: We got conflicting reports though coming out.

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Speaker 6: We have ESPN on one Sports straight on another, ESPN

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Speaker 6: reported that Bill Pollian, former Colts Ezech was one of

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Speaker 4: You have to wait at.

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Speaker 6: Least one year before we voted in Bill Belichick for

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Speaker 6: He says, that's quote totally and categorically untrue. I voted

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Speaker 4: But there's a lot of votes he need to give.

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Speaker 4: Bill belichickt in the hof.

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Speaker 3: And I think this is spot on, and I want

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Speaker 3: You can't go bonds and Clements can't get in. They cheated,

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Speaker 3: thing was twenty nineteen when they got busted in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 3: You remember people were like, well, they always beat the Bengals,

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Speaker 4: Remember they had a new coach at that time.

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Speaker 3: But he didn't have the signals, so he set a

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Speaker 4: I believe this is right.

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Speaker 3: Congrats to the football writers who did not reward this

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Speaker 3: guy who's cheated. I don't think he should get in

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Speaker 3: I don't believe he should get in because he did cheat.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's where I want to take this because to me,

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Speaker 1: if you look at it almost from a legal standpoint,

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Speaker 4: Are they setting that?

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Speaker 1: Hey, when you talk about somebody in the Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 1: doesn't to me either, your Hall of Famer. And that's

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Speaker 1: where I'm going with this. So I'm wondering, you know,

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Speaker 1: here's the thing, that's what I find interesting in this

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Speaker 3: I think that because you look at it and go

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Speaker 3: Craft in coaching, Craft wasn't getting the signals.

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Speaker 4: You can make a case for Craft that he's just

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Speaker 1: Of the team, right, But I think the back the

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Speaker 1: part what that would be, you're orchestrating this, right, because

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Speaker 1: the buck always has to start with somebody, right, If

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Speaker 3: Acting crazy entertain you're gonna take the owner out and

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Speaker 3: then let Belichick get in.

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Speaker 1: No, that's what I'm saying. I wonder if this is

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Speaker 1: a loud message saying we know you're great. That's not

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Speaker 1: deniable in the lexicount of conversation, but in the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame, we're not gonna vote you in. Allah And

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Speaker 4: Everybody knows he's great. Roger Clinton is great.

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Speaker 1: We know that, but based off principle, whether you agree

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Speaker 4: And with this it is interesting.

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Speaker 1: Now the other side of this, to the trifecta, if

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Speaker 1: you will, the three headed monster is Tom Brady. Because

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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, NFL kind of didn't want them.

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Speaker 4: He got upset.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go coach college pushback just a little bit.

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Speaker 4: But writers have nothing to do with the lead. True.

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Speaker 3: So the writers are the ones who vote. And it's

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Speaker 3: just like with baseball, like it's not baseball like. They

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Speaker 1: Voter, I just wonder if Tom Brady will get the

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Speaker 1: the if you look at it and you said, all right,

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Speaker 1: if I had to vote for one of these, because

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Speaker 4: But here's what I do. Wonder if maybe he'll get it.

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Speaker 1: But this is a loud indictment because Robert Kraft went

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Speaker 4: I'm telling you what they've done to Bill Belichick.

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Speaker 3: Ye, you won six Super Bowl you're not a first

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Speaker 1: Because if he's not, then who is? Nobody is exactly

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Speaker 4: And while I your guy we talked about.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday, Sean Payton, who's way more on the he could

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Speaker 1: with Sean Payton. You wonder it's a spy gee. I

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Speaker 3: I don't think would have been suspended had he just

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Speaker 4: I don't know it. I asked the guys to do it,

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Speaker 4: and they did it. Don't play what they say. It's

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Speaker 3: He destroyed his phone all this, wouldn't let them look

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Speaker 4: He had text the ball boy over one hundred times,

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Speaker 4: and that's the same guy. He didn't know that. He

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Speaker 3: I'm like, if you don't, if you're texting somebody one

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Speaker 1: The Flator, the Flator, so this is allowed to me

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Speaker 1: scream that. I think maybe the writers and when they

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Speaker 1: We all will mention you, and coach if you're in

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Speaker 1: a barbershop, will regret all Bill Belchet. But for what

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Speaker 4: Because it's a different numbers.

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Speaker 1: Things matter a little bit more in baseball and I

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Speaker 1: you gotta win in between the lines, and you will.

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Speaker 4: And not to mention he has six.

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Speaker 1: If it were one and it was the year of

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Speaker 6: And so again, I would have voted him in, But

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Speaker 3: All right, we're gonna get plenty of time to get

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Speaker 3: You agree with Bill Belichick getting snubbed as a first

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we had a whole show built out before this

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Speaker 3: I had you didn't give him a shot, so they

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Speaker 6: Everything that could go wrong with throws you one minimum,

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Speaker 6: So basically, in the eyes of Aaron Glenn, everybody but

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Speaker 3: And I'm gonna say this, I don't know how Woody

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Speaker 4: Protect them if they don't do the job. Aaron Glenn

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Speaker 3: Proof positive is that he's fired everybody that he hired.

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Speaker 4: No, this was all his doing. His hands are on it.

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Speaker 3: How in the world could an owner look at a

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Speaker 3: You put this staff together. We had an awful year.

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Speaker 3: This is why the Jets haven't won a Super Bowl

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Speaker 3: He was an awful coach this past year. Everybody is

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Speaker 3: Kelvin the Jets made a mistake by letting Aaron Glenn

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm wondering why they did it. And the first

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Speaker 1: You know what you can't be. You can't be scoring

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Speaker 1: few as sacks rob.

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Speaker 4: And then what.

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Speaker 1: About interceptions, Oh, you ain't got any Like these are

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Speaker 1: not the Texans, but you're right, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: you're around there, Hey, we're coming up. This defense is

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Speaker 1: going in the right direction. Then you can hang your

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Speaker 1: hat on that. And to me, that's the biggest indictment

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Speaker 1: for Aaron Glynn is that you're a defensive coordinator with

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Speaker 1: what a team that had defensive players. We had been

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Speaker 1: saying for the last few years, right, we've been saying

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Speaker 1: more they got a quarterback, that was the talk. And

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Speaker 1: you can't be thirty first in thirty eight and thirty

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Speaker 1: second in so many different categories and league ranks in

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Speaker 1: these defensive categories.

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Speaker 4: That's a massive indictment on Aaron Glenn.

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Speaker 1: To me, there also what do they say about everybody

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Speaker 1: can't be crazy? If you're calling everybody crazy, everybody can't

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Speaker 1: be crazy?

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Speaker 4: Might never see anything way fire everybody like basically.

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Speaker 1: And the challenge with that Rob is he doesn't have

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Speaker 1: the equity. If Mike Tomlin this year, five years ago

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Speaker 1: say you know what, fire everybody you say, well, shoot,

459
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Speaker 1: I mean that's at fourteenth won a super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: We've been in the postseason with all these years, you

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Speaker 4: know what I mean? Maybe that is Maybe that's why

462
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Speaker 4: we're kind of floundering right now.

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Speaker 1: He might be on it something. He's earned that equity.

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Speaker 1: If John Harball wanted to do that, he's earned that.

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Speaker 1: If Bill Belichicker we've talked about today, they've earned that.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn to do that with no fundamental baseline of

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Speaker 1: like what you even do is staggering so that that

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Speaker 1: the audacity is running high in New York. So I

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Speaker 1: was blown away by reading that too, because it just

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Speaker 1: didn't make sense. If these are the guys you hired,

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Speaker 1: those are these are the guys you vetted, You said,

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Speaker 1: this is my guy I'm bringing in, let's here we go.

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Speaker 3: But the whole idea of you're saying he deserves more

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Speaker 3: than one year, why doesn't Steve Wolkes deserve more than

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Speaker 3: one year?

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Speaker 4: Right? Why isn't the offensive coordinated Joe.

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Speaker 1: We're building something. We got somebody. It's gonna take some time.

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Speaker 1: I did this in Detroit. I was a part of it.

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Speaker 1: And then you guys ride it together. We ride together,

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Speaker 1: we die together. But everybody going going into the The

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Speaker 1: owner said, we need one more one more year, let

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Speaker 1: us get a quarterback, will volunteer step down if you

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Speaker 1: don't see fast improvement with us?

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Speaker 4: And I said, fair, okay, that's fair.

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Speaker 1: But to fire everybody and act like it's them that

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Speaker 1: you brought in and again your defensive minded and there's

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Speaker 1: not a single look at this roer Rob Parker. What

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Speaker 1: stack can I point to defensively that was favorable? The

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Speaker 1: only one that was middle. They were seventeenth was in

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Speaker 1: passing defense. That's it. But it didn't do nothing. You

491
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Speaker 1: didn't get interception and you were thirty first in sacks.

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Speaker 1: You're the fewer sex you had how many the Miles

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Speaker 1: Garrett at rob ge twenty four, twenty three and a

494
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Speaker 1: half twenty three they had twenty.

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Speaker 4: Six as a whole team.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm blown away by this, and I usually

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Speaker 1: want to roof for anybody a brother. Black coaches were

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Speaker 1: so limited given the opportunity. The only one thing I

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Speaker 1: will say is what I don't want to happen when

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Speaker 1: I don't like because I say, they go on for

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Speaker 1: and he gets fired. He's gonna get fired if they

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Speaker 1: go one, of course, But what I'm saying is I

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Speaker 1: don't like the idea that, see, that's why brothers can't

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Speaker 1: get coaches, or or dang it, he's blowing it for

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Speaker 1: other brothers who want to get a coach an opportunity

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Speaker 1: that I don't like because the opposite side of that

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Speaker 1: judge everybody to exactly. I'm not talking to you, but

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, in the thought process, he should be fired

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Speaker 1: when he doesn't do a good job.

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Speaker 4: I don't care who you are. I'm agreeing with that.

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Speaker 1: But what I don't want is the subliminal message being like, hey,

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Speaker 1: we tried, well that's why you can't give brothers opportunities,

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Speaker 1: or or well he blew it for all the other brothers.

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Speaker 4: You get what I mean, Like, now.

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Speaker 1: They're not gonna hire a black coach for another team

516
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Speaker 1: when clearly there are dozens of white coaches who are failing.

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Speaker 4: There are dozens.

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Speaker 1: They're ten opening right, and it's not Bill Belichick cheated,

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Speaker 1: and you're not gonna go well, we can't hire a

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Speaker 1: white coach because they cheat. So I can't get Mike

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Speaker 1: Rabel now because you know he played for him, he

522
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Speaker 1: must have been a cheater. Mike Rabel got a job

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Speaker 1: and he was right to thick of it. So my

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Speaker 1: point is, I only think I don't want is just

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Speaker 1: to be an indictment now, you know, because I gotta

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Speaker 1: keep it real. This is often what happens in most

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Speaker 1: fastest of life where they go, well, we gave a

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Speaker 1: brother a shot, and this is what happened. And then

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Speaker 1: you know, now another brother can't get one because they'll

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Speaker 1: use that as an example. So that's the only thing

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Speaker 1: I don't want is if Aaron Glenn in two three

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Speaker 1: games the next year and two oh and three on

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Speaker 1: four gets fired, they go, well we tried. See, That's

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Speaker 1: what I don't want, because I want that to be fair.

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Speaker 1: If there's another person who serves out opportunity another brother.

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Speaker 4: He should get it.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple

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Speaker 2: with Rob Parker and kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm

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Speaker 2: Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the

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Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app Rob Genius Story.

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Speaker 4: That's a grateful you're right about this. We'll make you

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Speaker 4: love Wemby even more because the kid's only twenty two.

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Speaker 6: Well, your favorite player in the NBA, Victor Wembanyama.

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Speaker 4: There you go, wein Banyama.

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Speaker 6: I said, it became right there, one of the few

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Speaker 6: professional athletes, at least in the NBA to come out

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Speaker 6: and speak out against the murder of Alex Brady by

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Speaker 6: ice agents in Minnesota.

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Speaker 4: That's a sad story.

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Speaker 3: When you really look at that and you notice you

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Speaker 3: do news in the morning, it's a sad story.

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Speaker 6: And Victor wheay on you hear this sound in a

553
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Speaker 6: second admittedly said that the Spurs pr told him, don't

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Speaker 6: talk about it. Say something politically correct if you're going

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Speaker 6: to talk about it. He met with the media today

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Speaker 6: and he let his thoughts be known.

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Speaker 4: Take a listen.

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Speaker 5: Pre has tried, but I'm not going to sit here

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Speaker 5: and give some politically correct You know, every day I

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Speaker 5: wake up and see the news and I'm horrified. I

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Speaker 5: think that it's crazy that some people might make it

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Speaker 5: seem like or make it sound like it's acceptable the murder,

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Speaker 5: like the murder of civilians is acceptable. You know, I

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Speaker 5: read the notes and I'm sometimes I'm asking very deep

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Speaker 5: questions about my own life. But you know, I'm conscious

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Speaker 5: also that saying everything you know that's on my mind

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Speaker 5: would have a cost that's too great for me right now.

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Speaker 5: So it's I'd rather not get into too many details.

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Speaker 5: It's terrible. You know, I know, I know, I'm I'm

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Speaker 5: a foreigner. You know I live in this country. I

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Speaker 5: am concerned for sure.

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Speaker 4: Can I do this? I'll join you on that. I'm

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Speaker 4: dead a twenty two year old kid. Bravo, bravo foreigner minded.

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Speaker 4: He ain't.

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Speaker 1: He hadn't grown up here with not from the massive

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Speaker 1: history of American you know. And you go down with

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Speaker 1: some of these other players and they don't go, oh.

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Speaker 4: It's bad. It's it's bad. Oh that's bad.

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Speaker 3: They have nothing to say. This, this is, this is

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Speaker 3: How do you not like this kid? How do you

581
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Speaker 3: not like this kid? Seriously? I didn't go after anybody

582
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Speaker 3: one political. It's wrong.

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Speaker 4: He's just talking.

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Speaker 3: About what happened. I didn't hear a Democrat republic out

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Speaker 3: of here.

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Speaker 4: It's wrong. Yes, you can say that and not.

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Speaker 3: And if people have a problem with you saying that

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Speaker 3: an innocent American citizen can be shot gunned, down on

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Speaker 3: the streets of Minneapolis.

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Speaker 1: Yes, or a lady who was knocked down was being

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Speaker 1: pepper spray knocked down and then details. But you get

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Speaker 1: my point. You should be a afraid to say that

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Speaker 1: that this is wrong, and by it, I mean that's

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Speaker 1: not Listen, a lot of people too have issues with

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Speaker 1: who are these ice agents?

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Speaker 2: Who?

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Speaker 4: Literally?

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Speaker 1: Who are they rob You don't know anything about the background.

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Speaker 1: You don't know the mask that you all hide behind,

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Speaker 1: the masks anytime people cover themselves. Yeah, law enforcement is

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Speaker 1: supposed to be the most upfront. Here's my badge number,

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Speaker 1: here's my name, Here's what I am, here's my you know,

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Speaker 1: department I'm with.

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Speaker 4: I got to what are they?

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Speaker 1: Every movie you've ever seen with it knock on the door,

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Speaker 1: they show the badge like that's supposed to be who

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Speaker 1: I'm ready.

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Speaker 3: Don't put a hood on, and then go like, no,

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Speaker 3: you don't get to see my badge number. I'm with

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Speaker 3: the police open for other reasons, I can't go into it,

611
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Speaker 3: you know what I do. But if you really dive

612
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Speaker 3: into also who they're hiring, we won't even go there, right,

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Speaker 3: we won't even go there.

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Speaker 1: Victor Winban and Yama is everything what you would hope

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Speaker 1: for in a young athlete.

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Speaker 3: He's twenty's two. God, he's so grounded. He's so that's

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Speaker 3: the perfect term. He is grounded. He is well round it.

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Speaker 3: He's becoming. You can tell he wants to be well read.

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Speaker 3: He's studying it up. And you can tell he has

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Speaker 3: conviction because you can tell. He said, listen, and you

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Speaker 3: know what I like to my faith.

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Speaker 1: One of my favorite parts about that, he said, I

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Speaker 1: got a lot going on in my mind. I got

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Speaker 1: a lot of thoughts, but I know the cost will

625
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Speaker 1: be too big for me right now.

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Speaker 4: You know why. I appreciate that, because that's an honest answer.

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Speaker 1: Right now, He's like, dang, I don't want to fully

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Speaker 1: go where I want to go. And I'm still gonna

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Speaker 1: make a statement, but I'm gonna say something. And he says,

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Speaker 1: I watched the news every day and I see this,

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Speaker 1: and he said, and he said, civilians being gunned down.

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Speaker 1: I applaud this young man for not being scared. I

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Speaker 1: applaud this young man for being true to himself, because

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you have to go

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Speaker 1: to bed with yourself and think of you know, and

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Speaker 1: be comfortable with whatever you did.

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Speaker 4: Or didn't do. I applaud him, and the only thing

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Speaker 4: I'll say it is not about him.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's gonna say, well, yeah, so and so ain't saying

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Speaker 1: something so and so. I do wonder and this is

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Speaker 1: kind of a question for you and Rober g Rob,

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Speaker 1: both of you. Robs, is there any fatigue from a

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Speaker 1: step from a lebron from a guys who went crazy

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Speaker 1: with with the all the stuff that was happening at

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Speaker 1: twenty six with Colin Kaepernick, who then went crazy four

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Speaker 1: years later, who went crazy with the George Floyd, the

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Speaker 1: summer of George Floyd speaking up Black lives matter. And

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Speaker 1: I'm wondering if there's a fatigue from them of the

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Speaker 1: cost like it costs me, whether it be sleep, time, money, effort, resource,

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Speaker 1: maybe emotion, because I put all that into it and

651
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Speaker 1: nothing's changed. And so that's the one reason why I'm

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Speaker 1: always gonna be hesitant to just why and why he's

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Speaker 1: not saying so why he says because those guys went

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Speaker 1: crazy for about you know, a six to eight year

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Speaker 1: span speaking up, standing up, you know, marching, you talking

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Speaker 1: about we talked about the other day, Donald Sterling. They

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Speaker 1: didn't just go well, I mean you will they said,

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Speaker 1: we're not playing, they took the shirts off, and the

659
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Speaker 1: player specifically in the NBA have been incredibly vocal to

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Speaker 1: even some people might have been saying nausea.

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Speaker 4: I'm saying, oh my god, I'm tired of it.

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Speaker 1: That's the only reason why I will cut a lot

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Speaker 1: of them slack right now is that there may be

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Speaker 1: a fatigue. They didn't sign up to be activist, per se.

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Speaker 3: But it's not everybody that's that's not even I'm not

666
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Speaker 3: expecting everybody to spread up right right right, But I'm

667
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Speaker 3: not going to push back on somebody who feels that.

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Speaker 4: I love it. I love I love it Doc Rivers.

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Speaker 3: I could argue all day about him as a basketball

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Speaker 3: coach in the last ten years, okay, And I'm not

671
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Speaker 3: gonna be on his side, right I'll be, But when

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Speaker 3: he stands up there and says, what are we doing

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Speaker 3: in this country where where nine kids from eating like

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Speaker 3: like seriously, that's that's a real concern, and he felt,

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Speaker 3: I have a platform, I'm going to speak out against

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Speaker 3: us holding money as a government and punishing kids from

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Speaker 3: eating breakfast and lunch.

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Speaker 1: And give you another person, Steve Kerr. Steve says a

679
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Speaker 1: lot about him. We can question that steveuse Steve Kerr

680
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Speaker 1: has never been his tongue. And you know who I

681
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Speaker 1: think is also weighing a lot on on a young mind,

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Speaker 1: like a Victor Women Yama, Greg Popovich. I would have

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Speaker 1: imagine he's had conversations with Greg Popovitch. You're very familiar

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Speaker 1: now because he's in that family, the fraternity, the organization

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Speaker 1: of the Spurs, and I would imagine he's either seen

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Speaker 1: or spoke or been around or read some things he said.

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Speaker 4: You've seen the video of Pop. He didn't leave, you know, man,

688
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Speaker 4: that was hard to watch.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the crazy part is I think that's better

690
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Speaker 1: than what it was that they showed us for last week.

691
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Speaker 1: So yeah, all the best off the Pop. But I

692
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Speaker 1: absolutely believe that he's learned from Pop speaking up when

693
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Speaker 1: you have a chance, if it's on your mind, let

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Speaker 1: it off.

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Speaker 4: You're a human as well. You're allowed to have emotions.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to be so politically correct because such

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Speaker 1: and such by shoes, and I don't want to offend people,

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Speaker 1: and every now and again you got to do what

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Speaker 1: you want. And I've had a conversation several times the

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Speaker 1: Kareem Abdul Jabbar had him on the show live during

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Speaker 1: the summer of George Floyd.

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Speaker 4: He answered the phone. We called him breaking news.

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Speaker 1: It was when the the whatever you want to call them,

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Speaker 1: protest rise all the state was happening down in Santa

705
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Speaker 1: Monica here in southern California. And I asked him when

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Speaker 1: the air up and said, why do you feel the

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Speaker 1: onus is oftentimes on the black athlete to have to

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Speaker 1: speak up to everything? And he just spoke on he

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Speaker 1: said because for his and he was young, remember the

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Speaker 1: boycott the Olympus. He was young, and he said he

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Speaker 1: felt that he needed to. He felt he had a voice.

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Speaker 1: He felt he had the privilege to be in this

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Speaker 1: position to try to speak up for people.

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Speaker 4: Everybody doesn't have a platform.

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Speaker 3: And you know, like there could be plenty of players

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Speaker 3: who could say something and will fall on deaf ears

717
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Speaker 3: and sometimes not everybody. And I get that. Michael Jordan

718
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Speaker 3: was criticized during his time when he was he was

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Speaker 3: criticized about just worrying about selling T shirts and sneakers.

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Speaker 1: Now wanting to offend every somebody. I'm gonna send somebody right,

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Speaker 1: and you can't live like that, you know what? I mean,

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Speaker 1: and that wasn't his thing. He was criticized for it,

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Speaker 1: and he knows he and he and he and he said,

724
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Speaker 1: he's more of a what do they need? Okay, here's

725
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Speaker 1: just build a hospital.

726
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Speaker 3: He's done a lot of stuff to help people. So

727
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Speaker 3: I'm not sitting there that speaking out was not his

728
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Speaker 3: strong point. But I'm never gonna bad somebody who that's

729
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Speaker 3: an opinion.

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Speaker 4: How let's not even go to Muhammad a lea, the

731
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Speaker 4: goat of speaking of it. If you would have.

732
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Speaker 3: Told Moham people, Muhammad Ali was a draft dodger and

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Speaker 3: hated in this country.

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Speaker 4: Okay, and he lit the Olympic torch you if you would.

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Speaker 1: Have told me that in the nineteen seventies he would live,

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Speaker 1: he would like the Olympic twenty years later and when

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Speaker 1: people would tell you crazy, because and that's where I

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Speaker 1: think Victor women Yama is understanding that standing on truth,

739
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Speaker 1: standing on what you believe, standing in with conviction, ultimately

740
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Speaker 1: you win in the in it might be hot, the

741
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Speaker 1: kitchen might get a little hot, people might be on Always.

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Speaker 3: Remember this people, always you should What side of history

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Speaker 3: will you be on? Like there are a lot of

744
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Speaker 3: people right even today, you do all this wilden and

745
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Speaker 3: all this crazy stuff right and treating people a certain ways. Dude,

746
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Speaker 3: there comes to reckoning and a history, and you don't

747
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Speaker 3: know where you'll be, Like, are you on the right

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Speaker 3: side of.

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Speaker 4: History or the wrong side of history?

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Speaker 3: And during slavery in this country, there were a lot

751
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Speaker 3: of white people will help black people, you know in

752
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Speaker 3: a slave.

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Speaker 4: Railroad.

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Speaker 1: Yes, there were a lot of people. At some point

755
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Speaker 1: they said, okay, this is gone. Well, this is not

756
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Speaker 1: the right side of history.

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Speaker 4: This was not right.

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Speaker 1: Last thing for me, with Victim m Yama speaking up

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Speaker 1: about this, I love it. And he's everything that's right.

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Speaker 1: He's twenty two. What else does he do? He plays hardest,

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Speaker 1: heck on both sides of the court, plays defense, he

762
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Speaker 1: speaks out about things, he plays offense. He loves his team.

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Speaker 1: He wants to just ask him about the All Star Game.

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Speaker 1: They say, well, how do you know what if they

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Speaker 1: don't play hard? He said, basically, I don't give it

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Speaker 1: that what they gonna do.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna play. I'm gonna be playing hard. He wants

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Speaker 4: to play as much as can.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, the Spurs organization is trying to, you know, be

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Speaker 1: smart with his minutes and all that he's a big

771
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Speaker 1: fellow and he had some health issues. Everything is what

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Speaker 1: you would hope for. He's competitive. To ask him, they

773
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Speaker 1: look Melick Andrews. I believe it was look den his

774
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Speaker 1: eyes said Who's the best player in the NBA. And

775
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: he said so and so he said, but when I'm

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Speaker 1: healthy is me?

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Speaker 4: I love that.

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Speaker 1: I love he is everything you'd want in a superstar

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Speaker 1: face of the NBA.

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Speaker 4: I love it. And I applaud that young brother for that.

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Speaker 1: And he was standing on business and standing on truth

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Speaker 1: and I ain't mad at him.