WEBVTT - Not So Fast Episode 7

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Not So Fast with Andrew Perloff and Paul Pabst,

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<v Speaker 1>where two longtime friends challenge each other on the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>sports stories of the day.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's Andrew Perloff and Paul Pabst.

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<v Speaker 3>Not so fast, my friends.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Not So Fast. I'm Andrew Perloff. He's Paul Pabst. Paul,

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<v Speaker 2>we made it.

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<v Speaker 3>The NFL season is here. We got a Wednesday Night

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<v Speaker 3>Football at WNF. We love it. NBC. We got a

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<v Speaker 3>football on the set. I think they only sent one

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<v Speaker 3>of one to us.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure about that, Paul. I've seen others. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>here's the point. Mike Tirico, Chris Collinsworth, our good buddies

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<v Speaker 2>are going to be in our house tonight. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't know we're good friends. We think of them

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<v Speaker 3>as good friends. They kind of know who we are.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Patriots-Seahawks tonight, 820 Eastern. Paul, why does this matchup

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<v Speaker 2>feel a little different than some opening nights?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Seattle's most interesting defending Super Bowl champ, maybe of

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<v Speaker 3>all time, is that they're still fighting for respect. Usually

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<v Speaker 3>that ends when you win the Super Bowl, especially in

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<v Speaker 3>dominant fashion. And the Seahawks last year, they weren't some

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<v Speaker 3>fluky team. They weren't like they lucked in or they

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<v Speaker 3>won it on a fluke. And there still seems like

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<v Speaker 3>they're battling the Rams, the Cowboys, and others for relevancy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yes, but I'd say they don't get back. I'd

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<v Speaker 2>say that neither of these teams get back. Let me

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<v Speaker 2>give you some numbers, Paul. Okay, Super Bowl winner, about 25%

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<v Speaker 2>make it to the Super Bowl the following year, and

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<v Speaker 2>half of those teams win. That's only about 13%. And

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<v Speaker 2>the Super Bowl loser, only 14% of them make it back.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you heard about the Super Bowl losing jinx.

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<v Speaker 2>You look at Seattle and New England, a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people are making picks. I'm seeing some Seattle, not a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of New England. But still, you're right. The Seahawks

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<v Speaker 2>are not feared.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to stat you back. The Seahawks weren't fluky.

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<v Speaker 3>In 2025, the regular season, the Seahawks outscored their opponents

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<v Speaker 3>by 191 points. That's the most point differential in all

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<v Speaker 3>of professional football. That's not a fluke. And look at

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<v Speaker 3>where they are in the odds. They're fourth, which is

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<v Speaker 3>lightly respectable. But do you think it's because... The Seahawks

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<v Speaker 3>didn't make a big splash in the offseason. Not a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of changes. I know they let Ken Walker go,

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<v Speaker 3>but they are a drama-free Super Bowl team.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I don't think so. Because you have to look

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<v Speaker 2>at how they got there last year. They beat a

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<v Speaker 2>Patriots team that, in my opinion, probably was a year ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>It shouldn't have been that year.

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<v Speaker 3>I do agree with that. I think you've got a

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<v Speaker 3>good point. They didn't have to beat the Bills, the Chiefs,

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<v Speaker 3>or the Ravens to win that Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>And what else happens to Super Bowl teams? They lose

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<v Speaker 2>their coordinators, and I know you think this is a

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<v Speaker 2>big deal. They lost Clint Kubiak, who was running the

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<v Speaker 2>offense with Sam Darnold. We'll see how much that hurts.

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<v Speaker 2>It's hurt a lot of the past Super Bowl winners.

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<v Speaker 2>It's certainly hurt my Eagles.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, but Sam Darnold, does he factor in this at all?

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<v Speaker 3>Because people like, don't love, nationally, Sam Darnold, even after

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<v Speaker 3>leading a team to a Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, we've seen Sam Darnold with questionable offensive coordinators.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not the same quarterback. Everything was working perfectly last year.

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<v Speaker 2>I like the Seahawks a lot. I agree, by the way.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're going to have a chip on their

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<v Speaker 2>shoulder because of this disrespect, and they are a solid team. But, again,

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<v Speaker 2>it feels like the Rams are the defending champions or

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<v Speaker 2>the Seahawks are the upstart team when that's not the case.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a premature warm take you here, and Sam Darnold

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<v Speaker 3>reminds me of Joe Montana from the stance of his coolness,

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<v Speaker 3>his calmness. Joe Montana didn't put up monster stats. He

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<v Speaker 3>was more of a guy who just pinpoint, ran a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit, passed really well, but just kept winning. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>it's really early to make any Montana comparisons with him,

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<v Speaker 3>but demeanor-wise, I think Darnold has a little Montana in him.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a little too warm for me. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>say that's outright hot. Sam Darnold, Joe Montana?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not retracting, but what I'm saying is he is cool.

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<v Speaker 3>He's entered that zone where he's trustworthy. Is he going

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<v Speaker 3>to go left and throw 70 yards across his body?

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<v Speaker 3>You're never going to see those highlights.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Steve Young actually makes more sense because Steve

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<v Speaker 2>Young took forever to reach that elite level Sam Darnold,

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<v Speaker 2>the early part of his career, was not good, just

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<v Speaker 2>like Steve Young was.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you just out-warm take me by doubling down and

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<v Speaker 3>saying not just Joe Montana, but now Steve Young comparisons?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I totally topped you there.

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<v Speaker 3>You can tell we don't rehearse this show.

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<v Speaker 2>Meanwhile, New England, you know, listen, they beat last year,

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<v Speaker 2>they beat the Chargers. Chargers never win the playoffs. They

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<v Speaker 2>beat the Texans, CJ Stroud, terribly. And then they beat

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<v Speaker 2>the Broncos with a backup quarterback in the playoffs to

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<v Speaker 2>reach the Super Bowl, struggle in the Super Bowl. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>everyone is kind of back for New England. The key players,

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<v Speaker 2>they have their coaches back. But still, there are a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of questions about it as far as, like, Super

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<v Speaker 2>Bowl repeat. It's hard to see. I went through.

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<v Speaker 3>There's this website. You could look at all the experts'

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<v Speaker 3>picks before the season. And I found two out of, like,

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<v Speaker 3>60 that had the AFC title game with the Patriots

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<v Speaker 3>in it. Nobody loves the Patriots at all. I think

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<v Speaker 3>they think, yeah, they overachieved a little bit last year.

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<v Speaker 3>Drake Bay a little ahead of schedule. But they added A.J. Brown.

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<v Speaker 3>They added some other tools. They actually have a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit better of a roster than last year I do think,

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<v Speaker 3>and I don't want to get into the offseason, but

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<v Speaker 3>I think the offseason messy stuff around the Patriots distracted

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<v Speaker 3>the media from that they're a quality football team.

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<v Speaker 2>You mean the Mike Vrabel stuff?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you said it, not me.

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<v Speaker 2>I would just say it. I mean, also people are

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<v Speaker 2>talking about their harder schedule. That's a big storyline. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think the Vrabel messiness stuff matters because you look

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<v Speaker 2>at every great team, they have messiness. Maybe not with

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<v Speaker 2>the head coach.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think it actually matters on the field, but

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<v Speaker 3>it mattered with the coverage.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, listen, I like the Patriots a lot

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<v Speaker 2>this year, but we're going to do our Super Bowl

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<v Speaker 2>picks later. When you look at their schedule this year,

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<v Speaker 2>it is a lot harder to pick them than it

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<v Speaker 2>was last year. And they still have Buffalo looming in

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<v Speaker 2>the AFC East.

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<v Speaker 3>We did mention this yesterday. The Patriots finished with Jets

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<v Speaker 3>and Dolphins in two of their last three. That could

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<v Speaker 3>help if it's dicey getting into the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so you don't have any faith in the Jets

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<v Speaker 2>and the Dolphins?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to say no. That's a hard no. That's

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<v Speaker 3>not even a warm take. That's a cold take. All right,

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<v Speaker 3>let's get to it. The Patrick Mahomes situation is all set.

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<v Speaker 3>He will start Monday Night Football against the Broncos, according

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<v Speaker 3>to Andy Reid. You said at one point you may

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<v Speaker 3>hold him back. I also am concerned with Patrick Holmes

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<v Speaker 3>going against the, at worst, second-best pass rush in the league.

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<v Speaker 3>Would you be worried? Do you expect a different-looking Mahomes

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<v Speaker 3>Monday night and maybe the first month of the season?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Mahomes knows how to play conservatively. He usually only

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<v Speaker 2>runs in the playoffs and in the fourth quarter when

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<v Speaker 2>they need it. So he is not going to put

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<v Speaker 2>himself out there. But here's a guy you just don't

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<v Speaker 2>count out. Remember... The Super Bowl against the Eagles in Arizona,

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<v Speaker 2>he was limping at halftime. Then he came out in

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<v Speaker 2>the second half and completely shredded the Eagles.

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<v Speaker 3>Great point.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think that Patrick Mahomes defies all logic. And

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<v Speaker 2>everyone's sort of counting them out. It says the weapons

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<v Speaker 2>around him aren't great. But the weapons after Tyreek Hill

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<v Speaker 2>left have never been great. It's Patrick Mahomes. And, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't question him at all. I think he'll figure

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<v Speaker 2>out the health and be effective.

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<v Speaker 3>Any concern about guys who are kind of semi-proven? Xavier Worthy?

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<v Speaker 2>Nope.

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<v Speaker 3>Rasheed Rice?

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<v Speaker 2>Nope.

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<v Speaker 3>Travis Kelsey? No worries.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no worries. I have no worries. If Mahomes

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<v Speaker 2>is healthy and Andy Reid is the head coach, I

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<v Speaker 2>think that the reason we even know those names are

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<v Speaker 2>because of Mahomes.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you see them pivoting a little bit towards leaning

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<v Speaker 3>towards the running game, maybe at the first half of

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<v Speaker 3>the season or in playoff games, to spend money on

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<v Speaker 3>Kenneth Walker, the artist formerly known as Kenneth Walker III,

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<v Speaker 3>now Ken Walker? That seems like a pivot to me,

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<v Speaker 3>that they're saying, we're going to run the ball and

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<v Speaker 3>focus it to make Mahomes less of a target.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's a great point. They've been near the bottom

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<v Speaker 2>of the league in explosive runs the last few years.

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<v Speaker 2>Hopefully for them, Ken Walker can get a few going.

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<v Speaker 3>Explosive runs, only good in football.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we're going to do predictions throughout the show today,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're going to start with a couple of awards.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to do all the awards. We're going to start, Paul,

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<v Speaker 2>with the O-Poi and the D-Poi, the Offensive Player of

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<v Speaker 2>the Year and the Defensive Player of the Year. Why

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<v Speaker 2>don't you get us going with Offensive Player of the Year?

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<v Speaker 3>We have to start with the caveat that the Offensive

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<v Speaker 3>Player of the Year and the Defensive Player of the Year,

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<v Speaker 3>the OPOY is always a non-quarterback who overachieves. Not always,

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<v Speaker 3>but most. Almost always. If you're a running back or

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<v Speaker 3>wide receiver, it's very hard to win the MVP. Look

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<v Speaker 3>at the odds. Jameer Gibbs, B. John Robinson, neither won

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<v Speaker 3>it last year. Chase, Puka, Jefferson, all the usual suspects.

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<v Speaker 3>Jonathan Taylor in there, he's kind of a quiet assassin there.

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<v Speaker 3>That seems to be the cutoff point of people who

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<v Speaker 3>can win it. I will go first. I gave this

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of thought, a lot of thought last night,

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<v Speaker 3>and then I did the thing. I stopped thinking because

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<v Speaker 3>thinking gets me in trouble when I pick. I went obvious.

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<v Speaker 3>Jameer Gibbs and here's why from the Lions. Jameer Gibbs

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<v Speaker 3>is under contract. He got the big new deal, and

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<v Speaker 3>they have less depth at running back. They're kind of

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<v Speaker 3>spotty at the running back position. There's no more David

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<v Speaker 3>Montgomery to thunder and lightning that offense. It's all Jameer

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<v Speaker 3>Gibbs all the time. He's a sure thing. He's entering

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<v Speaker 3>his prime as a running back. I could see one

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<v Speaker 3>of those 2,400 yards of all-purpose rushing and receiving seasons

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<v Speaker 3>and cruising to the Opoy.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you a little worried about the wear and tear

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<v Speaker 2>on him now that he won't have as much help

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<v Speaker 2>to share?

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<v Speaker 3>Not yet, but this is when you use him. He's

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<v Speaker 3>completely under contract. You have three years to get a

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<v Speaker 3>Super Bowl with this guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. I am also going a non-quarterback, pretty obvious, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty high up in the odds as well. I

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<v Speaker 2>think people forgot about Jamar Chase just a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>They haven't forgotten about him, but you remember two years

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<v Speaker 2>ago he won the Triple Crown for receiving, which is

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<v Speaker 2>completely unstoppable. I think Joe Burrow is on a mission

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<v Speaker 2>this year. Last year, of course, he was hurt for

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<v Speaker 2>half the season. Chase and Burrow, to me, is probably

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<v Speaker 2>the number one quarterback-to-wide receiver connection in the entire league.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Chase really wants people to remember what he

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<v Speaker 2>did two years ago. And I think the Bengals, they're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to be my Super Bowl pick necessarily, but

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<v Speaker 2>I think they are all in for this year. Improvements

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<v Speaker 2>on defense. I think they're fired up. Burrow just looks

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<v Speaker 2>like a man on the mission. And Chase is the

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<v Speaker 2>one who's going to benefit from that.

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<v Speaker 3>I think this is a great pick because if you

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<v Speaker 3>look at every year, I always look at targets by

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<v Speaker 3>a wide receiver and targets for a quarterback. And he

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<v Speaker 3>always leads the league. When Joe Burrow is healthy, Jamar

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<v Speaker 3>Chase leads the league in targets per game. It's like, JSN,

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<v Speaker 3>don't be creative. Just throw it to that guy.

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<v Speaker 2>And not only that, he can get a five-yard pass

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<v Speaker 2>and go to the house or go long. Guy, he's

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<v Speaker 2>the most versatile big-time receiver. Everybody's got a specialty. He's

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<v Speaker 2>got them all.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, let's get to the depoy, the defensive player

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<v Speaker 3>of the year. I'm going to go again with less thinking,

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<v Speaker 3>more obviousness. Will Anderson of the Texans. He is hitting

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<v Speaker 3>his stride as a player. He just turned 25 years old.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a monster on the defensive line. Miles Garrett is

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<v Speaker 3>in there. I don't think Miles Garrett could win it

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<v Speaker 3>this year because the team he's on will help him

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<v Speaker 3>out too much. He already won it. Aiden Hutchinson, right

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<v Speaker 3>in the mix. Nick Benito, not enough respect, but Will

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<v Speaker 3>Anderson Jr., he's unbelievable. He's the best pass rusher in

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<v Speaker 3>the game, not named Miles Garrett, and he's probably a tie.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's at the point in his career now, age 25,

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<v Speaker 3>if I were the offensive line, I would just start

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<v Speaker 3>reasoning with him. I would just say, Will, can you

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<v Speaker 3>just take it easy on us? Because he's truly unstoppable.

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<v Speaker 3>The other side of his defensive line, Daniil Hunter, so

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<v Speaker 3>you can't assign a back to him on every single play.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me just make this clear. So you want the

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<v Speaker 2>left tackle to be like, hey, Will, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>have a family at home. I have a contract coming

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<v Speaker 2>up this year. Can you please just take it easy?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'll let you have this sack and then you

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<v Speaker 3>relax for a couple quarters because we both know I

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<v Speaker 3>can't stop.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure that's how the NFL works. I'll tell

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<v Speaker 2>you how not so fast works. We don't tell our

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<v Speaker 2>picks in advance. Nope. And I picked Will Anderson as well. Fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Twelve sacks last year. That number goes up. That defense is,

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<v Speaker 2>to me, one of the most impressive units, offensive defense

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<v Speaker 2>around the league. Daniil Hunter on the other side makes

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<v Speaker 2>it impossible to block. I think that defense is the

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<v Speaker 2>story of the year, so I'm going narrative, and he

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<v Speaker 2>will have the numbers. You know who my dark horse was,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's not a dark horse. Everyone forgot about Aiden Hutchinson.

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<v Speaker 2>Aiden Hutchinson with Detroit was going to win it two

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<v Speaker 2>years ago, so he's in the mix, but I think

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<v Speaker 2>Will Anderson's the hardest guy to block. I did think

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<v Speaker 2>that until I heard your strategy of being nice to him.

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<v Speaker 2>It's unusual.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think any offensive tackles are going to take

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<v Speaker 3>us up on that, but Will Anderson's entering that prime, 25-29,

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<v Speaker 3>like J.J. Watt is prime. Aaron Donald is prime. They

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<v Speaker 3>have that four- or five-year window that they're truly unstoppable,

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<v Speaker 3>and it doesn't really matter what year.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, very few players, one defensive player of the year,

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<v Speaker 2>have been 30 or over. Correct. Miles Garrett just turned 30,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way.

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<v Speaker 3>But he is an anomaly of, like, Genetics.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying, that might be a reason to fade him.

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<v Speaker 2>I like your reasoning. He'll split sacks with Aaron Donald

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<v Speaker 2>and everyone else there. All right, coming up next, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>go back to college football. Western Michigan has changed its tune.

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<v Speaker 2>What's next in the fallout from the Michigan game? Next

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<v Speaker 2>on Not So Fast. Here we go, Pearl.

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<v Speaker 3>Midday pick-me-up, as always, on Not So Fast. And this

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<v Speaker 3>one we're going, we always go out west because that's

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<v Speaker 3>what we do here. Ooh, Lazaro Montez going yard, as

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<v Speaker 3>they say. Big fella, great hitter. Really nice uniforms. Number 99.

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<v Speaker 2>That one would have gotten out of pretty much every park,

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<v Speaker 2>including national parks.

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<v Speaker 3>What if he said, I'm not 99 after Aaron Judge.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm after Wayne Gretzky. I'm a big hockey guy. That'd

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<v Speaker 3>be original.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be original. Now, I'm not sure that's accurate.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll check. We'll look into it because we're journalists. All right,

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<v Speaker 3>let's get back to Not So Fast, Paxton Perloff. All

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<v Speaker 3>day we're doing our NFL predictions. Coach of the Year,

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<v Speaker 3>the Cody, coming up in about 10 minutes. A lot

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<v Speaker 3>coming on, but let's go with warm takes. Nice quarterback.

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<v Speaker 3>cuddly warm takes to start the NFL season. Here we go.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to go back to college. Western Michigan University,

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<v Speaker 3>we know what happened the other day against Michigan. If

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<v Speaker 3>you didn't see it, you don't own a phone or

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<v Speaker 3>a TV. And Western Michigan University, it took some time

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<v Speaker 3>to think about it. And the Mac, which we love,

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<v Speaker 3>Mac games Tuesday and Wednesday, the Mac took time to

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<v Speaker 3>think about it and looked it over and issued the statement.

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<v Speaker 3>They went back at it. After further study and investigations,

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<v Speaker 3>now evident that replay protocol was not properly followed in

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<v Speaker 3>determining whether time remained on the clock at the conclusion

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<v Speaker 3>of the Western Michigan-Michigan game. As a result, the MAAC

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<v Speaker 3>has submitted a formal appeal to the NCAA FBS Oversight

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<v Speaker 3>Committee and the college football playoff. The MAAC is requesting

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<v Speaker 3>that those bodies recognize Western Michigan as the actual winner

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<v Speaker 3>of the game. That's no joke. They're saying, we looked

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<v Speaker 3>at this, we took our time, and you made the

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<v Speaker 3>wrong decision. What they're saying is that the Big Ten

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<v Speaker 3>and people at the Michigan game should have only looked

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<v Speaker 3>at the TV clock and not gone to the secondary

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<v Speaker 3>Big Ten clock because that is not protocol. Protocol. And

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<v Speaker 3>You know what's funny? A couple hours later, the NCAA

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<v Speaker 3>agreed with them to a point. The Big Ten agreed

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<v Speaker 3>with them to a point. If you look a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit later, what did the Big Ten and the NCAA do?

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<v Speaker 3>They responded with, yeah, you're right, my bad. And they said,

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<v Speaker 3>here's new guidance for college football games going forward. The

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<v Speaker 3>official time for all college games is the time displayed

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<v Speaker 3>on the in-stadium clock. So what they said, the NCAA

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<v Speaker 3>to Western Michigan and the MAAC is, yep, you're right,

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<v Speaker 3>we were wrong. That said, we're not giving you the ballgame.

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<v Speaker 3>They aren't going to give them the ballgame today. They're

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<v Speaker 3>not going to fix this. How do you feel about

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<v Speaker 3>this at this juncture?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's so funny. The game was Saturday, and today

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<v Speaker 2>I believe is Wednesday. Yes. And it feels like this

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<v Speaker 2>story is just as hot as it was on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>So much back and forth on DP's show field. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think that you can change the result. Firstly, that's

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<v Speaker 2>the way I lean. I know we did a poll

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<v Speaker 2>earlier in the hour about it, but I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>you can change the result, although the message has been

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<v Speaker 2>sent next time they better not screw this up.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not a flag by an official. It's a replay message.

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<v Speaker 3>extra down that was given improperly. And if any game

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<v Speaker 3>you could say this down should have happened, if you

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<v Speaker 3>take the down away, then you go to the score

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<v Speaker 3>with zeros left on the clock, which was a Western

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<v Speaker 3>Michigan win. If you're ever going to give one back

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<v Speaker 3>in sports, this is one that everyone would agree with,

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<v Speaker 3>except for maybe Michigan football.

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<v Speaker 2>I do think you get a mulligan in the sense

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<v Speaker 2>the college football playoff committee can look back and sort

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<v Speaker 2>of give half credit to Western Michigan for this. So

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<v Speaker 2>if they're in it for that last spot for the

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<v Speaker 2>group of five, I think people will remember how this

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<v Speaker 2>game ended.

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<v Speaker 3>Last thing on this, I emailed the Mac in Western

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<v Speaker 3>Michigan to see are they going to go forward on this?

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<v Speaker 3>We're waiting to hear back, but are they going to

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<v Speaker 3>take this to the court or are they tapping out

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<v Speaker 3>and saying we're going to accept this?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, man, we'll see. All right, I'm going to go

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<v Speaker 2>to the NFL. Baker Mayfield gets paid in Tampa Bay,

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<v Speaker 2>and it seems like a very positive day for the Bucs.

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<v Speaker 2>Not so fast. I don't understand what the Bucs are

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<v Speaker 2>doing big picture here, Paul. I know Baker Mayfield is

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<v Speaker 2>a very good player, but they were not able to

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<v Speaker 2>get to the next level when he was getting paid

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<v Speaker 2>$ 33 million a year. How are they going to get

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<v Speaker 2>to the Super Bowl now that he's getting paid $ 55

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<v Speaker 2>million a year? We know one of the best ways

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<v Speaker 2>to get to the Super Bowl is to have a

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback on a rookie deal. When QBs get expensive, it

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<v Speaker 2>is very hard to build a team around them. So

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<v Speaker 2>the Bucs are running back Baker Mayfield and Todd Bowles.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't get it. Todd Bowles, in particular, his head coach,

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<v Speaker 2>does not have a Super Bowl upside to me. You

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<v Speaker 2>look at the last few years with these two guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Baker's been 9-8, 10-7, 8-9. They're right around. 500. To me,

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<v Speaker 2>if I have an NFL team, it's Super Bowl or bus,

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<v Speaker 2>and I see this as we're good enough, this is fine,

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<v Speaker 2>we like Baker, but there's no pathway to the next level.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm with you. We talked about this a few weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 3>not so fast, when we were just talking before the

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<v Speaker 3>show started, and we said you're kind of in no

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<v Speaker 3>man's land with Baker Mayfield. If you pay him $ 55 million,

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<v Speaker 3>you're giving him max money for maybe B-plus level play.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think that the Bucs are in this no-man

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<v Speaker 3>land where if they don't do it now, Baker Mayfield

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<v Speaker 3>becomes a free agent and they have to start over

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<v Speaker 3>at the quarterback position, which you're saying is maybe the

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<v Speaker 3>right decision.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, the problem is they probably won't have

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<v Speaker 2>a great draft pick after this year. So even if

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<v Speaker 2>it is a really rich quarterback class, but they could

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<v Speaker 2>trade up. Yeah, they're going to have to start over

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<v Speaker 2>at some point. What, do you get three years with

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<v Speaker 2>Baker Mayfield? I don't think they win a Super Bowl

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<v Speaker 2>in that three years. Also, their defense is slipping in

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<v Speaker 2>the rankings today. They were 21 last year. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if Todd Bowles has his fastball.

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<v Speaker 3>That's warm, and I'm with you. All right, let's get

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<v Speaker 3>back to another warm take. I'm going to go back

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<v Speaker 3>to college. All right, let's look at this one. LSU

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<v Speaker 3>and the SEC, it's the best matchup of the year,

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<v Speaker 3>better than anything on the field. We know the whole

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<v Speaker 3>LSU story and Lane Kiffin trying to get a couple

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<v Speaker 3>pros back on his roster. Yesterday, the SEC announced they're

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<v Speaker 3>having a special all-presidents AD meeting and a vote whether

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<v Speaker 3>to keep LSU in the conference. And that is basically

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<v Speaker 3>Greg Sankey in a street fight taking off his shirt

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<v Speaker 3>and letting the smaller guy know him. check this out

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<v Speaker 3>because you don't want any part of this. Greg Sankey,

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<v Speaker 3>as we said last week on Not So Fast, is

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<v Speaker 3>the guy who stirs the drink in the SEC. And

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<v Speaker 3>he's not going to let Lane Kiffin, who is here

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<v Speaker 3>and could be gone in a couple years out of

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<v Speaker 3>the SEC, tell him what to do. And were they

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<v Speaker 3>going to go to a vote to kick LSU out

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<v Speaker 3>of the conference?

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<v Speaker 2>No.

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<v Speaker 3>But he liked the idea of it. He liked floating

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<v Speaker 3>it out there. Lane Kiffin flinched. Lane Kiffin set his

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<v Speaker 3>roster for the season, and those two former pros are

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<v Speaker 3>not on his roster. So Greg Sankey got the W.

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<v Speaker 3>Let Lane Kiffin know we're not doing this. And he

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<v Speaker 3>went old school with like a true threat, a real threat.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the whole story is overblown, Paul, because these

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<v Speaker 2>guys were not going to go to the NFL if

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't change. If the rule had existed where the

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<v Speaker 2>class of 2022 could have stayed in college, these guys

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<v Speaker 2>would have stayed in. I think they got screwed. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>on team Lane.

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<v Speaker 3>But we love it. We love infighting. We love SEC drama,

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<v Speaker 3>the soap opera that is the SEC. Lane Kiffin is

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<v Speaker 3>a button pusher. I never think he's done so well.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a good story.

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<v Speaker 2>What if LSU wins the SEC and then they become

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<v Speaker 2>best friends?

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<v Speaker 3>You want Lane Kiffin to win the SEC title and

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<v Speaker 3>have to shake hands with Greg Sankey as he handles

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<v Speaker 3>the trophy.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, for my last warm take, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>stay in college football. The powers that be may expand

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<v Speaker 2>to 24 teams for the college football playoff from 12 teams. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people think that's way too much. Some

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<v Speaker 2>people want to go back to four. We're all over

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<v Speaker 2>the place. I have the perfect number, Paul. Perfect number.

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<v Speaker 2>I did the math. It's got to be 16, not 24.

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<v Speaker 2>Because last year, if you look at the top 24 teams,

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<v Speaker 2>you're getting into the Georgia Tech-Houston area. But if you

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<v Speaker 2>stop at 16, that was USC last year. And more importantly,

0:18:40.580 --> 0:18:43.280
<v Speaker 2>you got Notre Dame in 2025. Not only did Notre

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<v Speaker 2>Dame deserve to get in, in my opinion, I think

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<v Speaker 2>they could have won it all if they were there

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<v Speaker 2>last year. And Texas just missed. They would be in

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<v Speaker 2>a 16-team playoff. They could have made some noise in

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<v Speaker 2>the playoff. So I think with NIL, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of parity around college football. I think there are 16

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<v Speaker 2>teams who could compete for the title, and that way

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<v Speaker 2>you could be a little bit looser. Like Texas lost

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<v Speaker 2>to Ohio State last year. To me, that should not

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<v Speaker 2>have counted against their resume. The committee said it did,

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<v Speaker 2>but if they had 16 teams, Texas would have been in.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this is going to help the sport if

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<v Speaker 2>they expand. 24 is just a little bit too much

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<v Speaker 2>because I don't think there are 24 teams who could compete,

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<v Speaker 2>but 16 for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think you nailed this one because it does

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<v Speaker 3>feel like there's 16 competitive teams, like title-worthy teams going on.

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<v Speaker 3>And once you get to 24, you're setting up some

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<v Speaker 3>first-round matchups that may not be pretty, may not be

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<v Speaker 3>good football.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I mean, I don't mean to be a sort

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<v Speaker 2>of power conference elitist here. But as you're getting into,

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<v Speaker 2>like James Madison probably would have made it last year.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if they would have competed.

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<v Speaker 3>But it allows those cute stories, no offense, those cute

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<v Speaker 3>stories of a James Madison or a Cincinnati to sneak

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<v Speaker 3>into playoffs and get a shot every year.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, one of them gets to sneak in. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if we need three or four. But, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when South Carolina and USC and teams like that end

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<v Speaker 2>up between 12 and 16, they could be really good.

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<v Speaker 2>And you look around this year, there's a lot of

0:19:58.330 --> 0:20:01.040
<v Speaker 2>talent spread around because NIL is Somebody said on a

0:20:01.040 --> 0:20:04.260
<v Speaker 2>DP show today, you don't keep five backups at Alabama.

0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:07.129
<v Speaker 2>You don't keep five star players. So now there are

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of teams that can make noise.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, it's game time here. We like to play games.

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<v Speaker 3>We've got a big game tonight coming up on NBC.

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<v Speaker 3>But let's go to a little game we like to

0:20:13.950 --> 0:20:16.889
<v Speaker 3>call Who Said It? One round today, Perloff. We're only

0:20:16.910 --> 0:20:19.159
<v Speaker 3>playing one round of Who Said It? You and I

0:20:19.200 --> 0:20:22.180
<v Speaker 3>are 0-2 on the season. Let's get to Who Said This?

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<v Speaker 3>It's the responsibility of the offense to score every time

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<v Speaker 3>we hit the grass. That's how we view it. We'll

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<v Speaker 3>find out a lot about this team. We won't know

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<v Speaker 3>week one who we are yet. That sounds Sean McVay-ish.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to go Sean McVay and his faux hawk.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I like that. It's got to be a great offense.

0:20:40.240 --> 0:20:42.300
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go Joe Burrow because they actually probably

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<v Speaker 2>do have to score every time we hit the field.

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<v Speaker 3>Who said this?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's the responsibility of the offense to score every

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<v Speaker 1>time we hit the grass. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how we view it. We'll find out a lot

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<v Speaker 2>about this team.

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<v Speaker 3>We won't know week one who we are yet. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>the hint there should have been grass, grass field. We

0:20:58.970 --> 0:21:00.690
<v Speaker 3>should have whittled it down to teams with grass because

0:21:00.710 --> 0:21:02.870
<v Speaker 3>he didn't say every time we're on the field turf.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that information is helpful. Now, why didn't you tell

0:21:05.670 --> 0:21:07.050
<v Speaker 2>me before we both said the wrong name?

0:21:07.190 --> 0:21:09.170
<v Speaker 3>You're supposed to be the smart one. That was Ben Johnson.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll play some more. We'll play some more who said

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<v Speaker 3>that tomorrow. But let's get to our next NFL pick.

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<v Speaker 3>Here we go, Perloff. The Cody, the coach of the year.

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<v Speaker 3>You want to go first?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'll go first. Okay. Okay, there's gonna be a

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<v Speaker 2>slight theme in my picks, Paul. I have convinced myself

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<v Speaker 2>to go high on the Dallas Cowboys. And the coach

0:21:29.310 --> 0:21:31.740
<v Speaker 2>of the year will be in Dallas, and his name

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<v Speaker 2>is Brian Schottheimer.

0:21:33.040 --> 0:21:33.840
<v Speaker 3>Drinking the Kool-Aid.

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<v Speaker 2>You see him there. He's plus 1,300. Pretty good odds.

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<v Speaker 2>Coach of the Year is always really the most improved coach.

0:21:40.290 --> 0:21:43.109
<v Speaker 2>You can't go from 13-4 to Coach of the Year.

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<v Speaker 3>It's best story.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you have to be 7-10, which is right around

0:21:47.410 --> 0:21:49.970
<v Speaker 2>where Dallas was, and then go to 11 or 12 wins.

0:21:50.310 --> 0:21:53.510
<v Speaker 2>That's why Kevin Stefanski wins all the time. Brian Schottheimer,

0:21:53.550 --> 0:21:56.680
<v Speaker 2>very popular coach as well. He fits exactly the mold

0:21:56.700 --> 0:21:57.560
<v Speaker 2>of who wins this award.

0:21:57.640 --> 0:21:59.370
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you took all my notes. Coach of the Year

0:21:59.460 --> 0:22:02.609
<v Speaker 3>is really most improved coach, best story, who takes a

0:22:02.630 --> 0:22:06.050
<v Speaker 3>team that's average to good, good to great, or bad

0:22:06.109 --> 0:22:09.190
<v Speaker 3>to average. So I'm going to go with Jesse Minter

0:22:09.210 --> 0:22:12.050
<v Speaker 3>of the Ravens, and here's why. New face, new place,

0:22:12.170 --> 0:22:16.090
<v Speaker 3>replacing Harbaugh. If he overachieves this year, he gets a bonus. Like,

0:22:16.430 --> 0:22:18.630
<v Speaker 3>look what he did with Lamar Jackson. Look what he

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<v Speaker 3>did with all these good players that Harbaugh couldn't do

0:22:21.280 --> 0:22:23.560
<v Speaker 3>the past few years. So Jesse Minter looks good with

0:22:23.580 --> 0:22:25.900
<v Speaker 3>the salt-and-pepper beard. I'm picking him as my guy.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you're right. Because they had a bad season, so

0:22:27.880 --> 0:22:30.179
<v Speaker 2>they jumped back. But I worry people are going to say, oh, well,

0:22:30.200 --> 0:22:31.960
<v Speaker 2>that was Lamar Jackson. That wasn't the coach.

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<v Speaker 3>He'll get enough points where he gets to it. All right,

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<v Speaker 3>coming up next, oh, this is bonus coverage. Our guy,

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<v Speaker 3>James Palmer of Amazon NFL. We're going to talk to him,

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<v Speaker 3>get you ready for the season. And more picks from us,

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<v Speaker 3>including our Super Bowl picks, coming up. Not so fast.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to Not So Fast. I'm Perloff. He's Pabst,

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<v Speaker 2>NBC Sports Now, Peacock. We have some more picks coming

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<v Speaker 2>up soon, Paul.

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<v Speaker 3>Offensive Rookie of the Year, Defensive Rookie of the Year, O'Roy, D-Roy,

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<v Speaker 3>and you and I have not seen each other's picks.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think we have very, very different opinions

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<v Speaker 2>on rookies. But first, you know, with the season starting,

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<v Speaker 2>first person we want to talk to with the actual

0:23:10.220 --> 0:23:14.020
<v Speaker 2>season tonight, James Palmer, of course, you know, from NFL

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<v Speaker 2>on Prime, one of the most respected reporters in the

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<v Speaker 2>NFL business, and a Philly native, Paul, which you know

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<v Speaker 2>I love.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course.

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<v Speaker 2>James, how you doing, buddy?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm good.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, every time you hit me up, it's like

0:23:25.920 --> 0:23:28.220
<v Speaker 1>there's always like a bottom line that's like, thoughts on

0:23:28.240 --> 0:23:30.610
<v Speaker 1>the Phils? Or like something like that is always related

0:23:30.680 --> 0:23:31.760
<v Speaker 1>somewhere when you hit me up.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, I'd love to chat.

0:23:33.030 --> 0:23:34.410
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, we can talk Phillies.

0:23:34.430 --> 0:23:35.470
<v Speaker 2>We can talk, you know, Sixers.

0:23:35.490 --> 0:23:35.970
<v Speaker 3>We can talk whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>But we'll stick to NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>It could be third quarter of the Super Bowl, James.

0:23:40.369 --> 0:23:42.649
<v Speaker 2>And I'll send you a note about the DH situation

0:23:42.670 --> 0:23:45.710
<v Speaker 2>with the Phillies. Yes, very much so. And you'll immediately reply.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. So we're ready to get started this season.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously tonight, Seahawks and the Patriots. One team that's getting

0:23:53.140 --> 0:23:56.040
<v Speaker 2>a lot of hype, though, is the L.A. Rams, obviously. Now,

0:23:56.080 --> 0:23:59.460
<v Speaker 2>they're off in Australia. Do you buy the hype, or

0:23:59.590 --> 0:24:01.250
<v Speaker 2>are you worried that maybe there's too much hype?

0:24:02.990 --> 0:24:04.710
<v Speaker 1>If there's a team that can handle this hype, I

0:24:04.730 --> 0:24:06.570
<v Speaker 1>think you look at it from the general manager in

0:24:06.609 --> 0:24:08.629
<v Speaker 1>Les Snead, you look at it from Sean McVay, the

0:24:08.650 --> 0:24:10.850
<v Speaker 1>way these guys are wired and the way some of

0:24:10.890 --> 0:24:13.450
<v Speaker 1>their star power is wired, I think they can handle

0:24:13.490 --> 0:24:13.840
<v Speaker 1>the hype.

0:24:13.950 --> 0:24:16.200
<v Speaker 3>Now, I know the odds are not in their favor.

0:24:16.220 --> 0:24:18.080
<v Speaker 1>Even though the odds are outstanding, you look at teams

0:24:18.100 --> 0:24:19.740
<v Speaker 1>that have had these type of odds, they just haven't

0:24:19.820 --> 0:24:21.629
<v Speaker 1>won the Super Bowl yet. But I do think they

0:24:21.650 --> 0:24:23.869
<v Speaker 1>can handle all of this. A lot of these guys

0:24:23.910 --> 0:24:26.530
<v Speaker 1>have obviously been through success. And Trent McDuffie has been

0:24:26.550 --> 0:24:29.540
<v Speaker 1>through everything in Kansas City. And he comes over. And, like,

0:24:29.920 --> 0:24:31.619
<v Speaker 1>I do think they have the ability to handle all

0:24:31.640 --> 0:24:33.659
<v Speaker 1>of it. Now, it's not like they're without question. Can

0:24:33.680 --> 0:24:36.139
<v Speaker 1>they stop the run? How is all these different pieces

0:24:36.180 --> 0:24:38.139
<v Speaker 1>going to come together? I do think it's a, like,

0:24:38.200 --> 0:24:40.760
<v Speaker 1>woe is me type problems for Chris Shula. Like, how

0:24:40.800 --> 0:24:43.850
<v Speaker 1>do I put all these new, beautiful pieces together? But, like,

0:24:44.130 --> 0:24:45.690
<v Speaker 1>I do think you've got to have it really come

0:24:45.750 --> 0:24:47.670
<v Speaker 1>out onto the field and work. But I don't think

0:24:47.710 --> 0:24:50.659
<v Speaker 1>there's any sort of added pressure that they're putting on themselves,

0:24:50.680 --> 0:24:53.379
<v Speaker 1>and if anybody can handle it, I think they can.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just what's going on with the rest of the

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<v Speaker 1>NFC we can get to.

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<v Speaker 3>James, let's get to the Seahawks, and they're the opposite

0:24:58.420 --> 0:25:00.660
<v Speaker 3>of hype. I think they probably enjoyed the offseason not

0:25:00.700 --> 0:25:02.420
<v Speaker 3>being a focal point, even though they were so good

0:25:02.460 --> 0:25:04.730
<v Speaker 3>last year winning the Super Bowl. How much do you

0:25:04.770 --> 0:25:07.929
<v Speaker 3>like the way they run their franchise, letting Kenneth Walker go,

0:25:07.950 --> 0:25:10.490
<v Speaker 3>a star player, and then going cheaper at the running

0:25:10.530 --> 0:25:13.230
<v Speaker 3>back position? Just the way they do things year to year,

0:25:13.270 --> 0:25:14.810
<v Speaker 3>how respectable are they as a franchise?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, John does a great job. I mean, it's almost

0:25:17.600 --> 0:25:19.659
<v Speaker 1>like it is a little bit forgotten up there. I mean,

0:25:19.770 --> 0:25:21.430
<v Speaker 1>I was at NFL Network for a decade. It'd always

0:25:21.450 --> 0:25:23.670
<v Speaker 1>be like halfway through the season, they'd be like, James,

0:25:23.690 --> 0:25:25.310
<v Speaker 1>I think we have to send you up to Seattle.

0:25:25.350 --> 0:25:27.230
<v Speaker 1>We haven't really talked about Russell Wilson, who's having an

0:25:27.290 --> 0:25:29.250
<v Speaker 1>MVP season. They always just kind of fly under the

0:25:29.310 --> 0:25:31.909
<v Speaker 1>radar for these long stretches. And it's almost like, you know,

0:25:31.930 --> 0:25:33.649
<v Speaker 1>with the first question, they are doing it within their

0:25:33.710 --> 0:25:35.830
<v Speaker 1>own division with what's going on with the Rams. But

0:25:35.850 --> 0:25:37.949
<v Speaker 1>John has such a good pulse on the way he

0:25:38.030 --> 0:25:40.470
<v Speaker 1>wants to handle a roster, how they want to flip

0:25:40.490 --> 0:25:43.139
<v Speaker 1>things over. And, you know, they always knew that they

0:25:43.160 --> 0:25:45.199
<v Speaker 1>weren't going to bring Kenneth Walker back. And then, you know,

0:25:45.460 --> 0:25:47.580
<v Speaker 1>there are certain organizations, I would say like the Ravens

0:25:47.619 --> 0:25:49.379
<v Speaker 1>are one of these as well, where it's like, oh,

0:25:49.400 --> 0:25:51.800
<v Speaker 1>Jadarian Price just falls into their lap in the draft.

0:25:51.840 --> 0:25:54.160
<v Speaker 1>Some of these teams just seem to, in our perception,

0:25:54.200 --> 0:25:56.859
<v Speaker 1>just play it right oftentimes. But when you have a coach,

0:25:56.900 --> 0:25:58.540
<v Speaker 1>and let's just say this, by the way, Hard Knocks

0:25:58.580 --> 0:26:00.980
<v Speaker 1>this year has been outstanding, like far and away better

0:26:01.020 --> 0:26:03.679
<v Speaker 1>than years past in recent memory. But you see the

0:26:03.720 --> 0:26:05.459
<v Speaker 1>way Mike handles the defense. You see the way that

0:26:05.480 --> 0:26:08.020
<v Speaker 1>they handle it on offense. Jackson Smith and Jig was

0:26:08.040 --> 0:26:11.460
<v Speaker 1>just a smart pick. I think that's really, to me...

0:26:11.900 --> 0:26:14.780
<v Speaker 1>a microcosm of the way John Schneider and the organization operate.

0:26:14.859 --> 0:26:17.300
<v Speaker 1>I remember being at JSN's Pro Day. I remember everybody

0:26:17.340 --> 0:26:21.090
<v Speaker 1>having questions going, there's no comp form. People feel uncomfortable

0:26:21.109 --> 0:26:22.290
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL when there's no comp.

0:26:22.550 --> 0:26:23.530
<v Speaker 2>They panic.

0:26:23.570 --> 0:26:25.590
<v Speaker 1>They go, I can't comp him to anything. John Schneider

0:26:25.690 --> 0:26:27.590
<v Speaker 1>loved that. He was like, he's such a unique player.

0:26:27.630 --> 0:26:29.310
<v Speaker 1>We can use him in different ways. And then they go, hey,

0:26:29.350 --> 0:26:31.650
<v Speaker 1>we can move off of DK Metcalf. We know JSN's

0:26:31.690 --> 0:26:33.639
<v Speaker 1>role can expand. We have faith in him becoming this

0:26:33.660 --> 0:26:35.500
<v Speaker 1>type of player. And you see the way that's become.

0:26:35.560 --> 0:26:37.639
<v Speaker 1>I just always think there's a forward thinking outside of

0:26:37.660 --> 0:26:40.260
<v Speaker 1>the box mentality mentality that John Schneider works with. And

0:26:40.280 --> 0:26:41.590
<v Speaker 1>we've seen that on hard knocks a little bit. And

0:26:41.609 --> 0:26:43.470
<v Speaker 1>I think that's one of the reasons we've seen this

0:26:43.510 --> 0:26:45.110
<v Speaker 1>success and they got the right head coach.

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<v Speaker 2>To do it. All right, James, earlier on the Dan

0:26:47.130 --> 0:26:49.929
<v Speaker 2>Patrick show, Dan picked the Denver Broncos to win the

0:26:49.970 --> 0:26:53.310
<v Speaker 2>Super Bowl. You're seeing kind of not the most popular pick,

0:26:53.350 --> 0:26:54.990
<v Speaker 2>but a trending pick. I know you know that team

0:26:55.040 --> 0:26:58.540
<v Speaker 2>very well, living in Denver. What do you think? Broncos,

0:26:58.660 --> 0:26:59.399
<v Speaker 2>chance to win it all?

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<v Speaker 3>You know what?

0:27:01.080 --> 0:27:02.840
<v Speaker 1>You asked me, you know, be ready for a Super

0:27:02.859 --> 0:27:04.520
<v Speaker 1>Bowl pick. And I was this morning going over this.

0:27:04.560 --> 0:27:07.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm walking the dog and I'm like, I don't want

0:27:07.660 --> 0:27:09.280
<v Speaker 1>to do it because they're right here in my backyard,

0:27:09.320 --> 0:27:11.000
<v Speaker 1>but I was going to say Denver. And it's just

0:27:11.040 --> 0:27:13.639
<v Speaker 1>because I have fewer questions about the Broncos than I

0:27:13.660 --> 0:27:16.760
<v Speaker 1>do almost every other team. And what you're looking for

0:27:16.800 --> 0:27:18.880
<v Speaker 1>from a Super Bowl winner or a Super Bowl contender,

0:27:19.400 --> 0:27:22.110
<v Speaker 1>they have every one of those boxes checked. Everybody wants

0:27:22.140 --> 0:27:23.090
<v Speaker 1>a Super Bowl winning head coach.

0:27:23.109 --> 0:27:24.090
<v Speaker 3>They have it in Sean Payton.

0:27:24.170 --> 0:27:28.030
<v Speaker 1>Everybody wants, you know, an up-and-coming, you know, boy genius

0:27:28.090 --> 0:27:29.810
<v Speaker 1>guru on the offensive side of the ball. They have

0:27:29.850 --> 0:27:31.910
<v Speaker 1>that in Davis Webb. They have a cheat code like

0:27:32.010 --> 0:27:34.530
<v Speaker 1>Kansas City has used for years with Steve Spagnuolo for

0:27:34.570 --> 0:27:36.910
<v Speaker 1>some reason not getting head coaching loved. They have that

0:27:36.950 --> 0:27:39.450
<v Speaker 1>with Vance Joseph, who runs one of the best defenses

0:27:39.470 --> 0:27:41.010
<v Speaker 1>in all of football. They have a great pass rush.

0:27:41.030 --> 0:27:43.620
<v Speaker 1>They have a good, you know, really, really good play

0:27:43.630 --> 0:27:45.640
<v Speaker 1>from in the trenches on the D-line and the offensive

0:27:45.660 --> 0:27:47.120
<v Speaker 1>line is one of the best in football. They went

0:27:47.140 --> 0:27:49.240
<v Speaker 1>and found one piece that was missing, which was the

0:27:49.300 --> 0:27:52.420
<v Speaker 1>explosiveness within the offense and add Jalen Waddell to the mix.

0:27:52.440 --> 0:27:54.590
<v Speaker 1>You know, 50-50 jump ball on Cortland Sutton, the best

0:27:54.640 --> 0:27:57.330
<v Speaker 1>corner in football on Pat Sertan. Like, I'm kind of

0:27:57.369 --> 0:28:00.149
<v Speaker 1>just curious, what are their weaknesses? Now, they won a

0:28:00.190 --> 0:28:02.500
<v Speaker 1>ton of one-score games last year. I know Sean Payton

0:28:02.520 --> 0:28:04.639
<v Speaker 1>has preached to the team in private meetings, like, we're

0:28:04.680 --> 0:28:06.369
<v Speaker 1>not going to win all those again, so let's make

0:28:06.380 --> 0:28:07.770
<v Speaker 1>sure we're in a different spot in the fourth quarter.

0:28:08.220 --> 0:28:11.350
<v Speaker 1>But I see very few reasons why we shouldn't be

0:28:11.390 --> 0:28:13.770
<v Speaker 1>looking at Denver in this, because there's just so few

0:28:13.910 --> 0:28:16.609
<v Speaker 1>questions surrounding that organization right now.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, James, final 30 seconds with you. Thanks for

0:28:19.010 --> 0:28:21.429
<v Speaker 3>hanging out. We'll watch you all season on Amazon. The

0:28:21.570 --> 0:28:23.889
<v Speaker 3>NFC North, I'm an NFC North guy. They have a

0:28:23.930 --> 0:28:26.290
<v Speaker 3>lot of good teams. Do they have a Super Bowl

0:28:26.310 --> 0:28:30.199
<v Speaker 3>team in that division? Hmm. I don't know. What was

0:28:30.220 --> 0:28:33.960
<v Speaker 3>your take? I want yours first. I think I always

0:28:34.100 --> 0:28:36.780
<v Speaker 3>liked the Packers, but I don't love the Packers. I

0:28:36.820 --> 0:28:39.350
<v Speaker 3>think the Bears, it might be a little premature, a

0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:41.720
<v Speaker 3>really good season last year. And then the Lions, I

0:28:41.810 --> 0:28:43.730
<v Speaker 3>can't tell if their window is closed or they're right

0:28:43.750 --> 0:28:46.190
<v Speaker 3>back in the thick of things. Of those three, I'd

0:28:46.250 --> 0:28:48.070
<v Speaker 3>pick the Lions. I honestly would.

0:28:48.090 --> 0:28:50.450
<v Speaker 1>I think they really kind of focus on themselves this season.

0:28:50.490 --> 0:28:52.410
<v Speaker 1>They really didn't have joint practices with anybody. It was

0:28:52.450 --> 0:28:55.020
<v Speaker 1>really like Let's focus on us. I think the offensive

0:28:55.040 --> 0:28:56.780
<v Speaker 1>line is back to what it's been in past years.

0:28:57.080 --> 0:28:59.680
<v Speaker 1>Jameer Gibbs could be Offensive Player of the Year. Jared

0:28:59.700 --> 0:29:02.560
<v Speaker 1>Goff is so underrated. Can the defense stay healthy? That's

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<v Speaker 1>such a huge.

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<v Speaker 3>Part of this.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Lions might have the best go of

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<v Speaker 1>it out of that division of a team that could

0:29:08.150 --> 0:29:08.890
<v Speaker 1>come out of the NFC.

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<v Speaker 2>James, really appreciate the time. Real quick, I gave you

0:29:11.890 --> 0:29:15.330
<v Speaker 2>a choice. Phillies, World Series win. Ohio State Buckeyes, another

0:29:15.370 --> 0:29:17.570
<v Speaker 2>national title. Which one are you picking? Oh, God.

0:29:18.070 --> 0:29:20.590
<v Speaker 1>I'll go Phillies World Series ring. That works for the organization.

0:29:20.610 --> 0:29:23.500
<v Speaker 1>Would love to see him get a ring again after 08.

0:29:23.500 --> 0:29:26.140
<v Speaker 1>So I'll go Phillies over Ohio State.

0:29:26.180 --> 0:29:28.400
<v Speaker 2>Man, that was painful. That was tough for me.

0:29:28.560 --> 0:29:30.860
<v Speaker 3>That was really tough for me. We got Texas this weekend?

0:29:30.960 --> 0:29:33.610
<v Speaker 2>Oh my God. Oh, right. Of course. All right, James,

0:29:33.620 --> 0:29:35.430
<v Speaker 2>we'll talk to you throughout the season. Thanks for the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Appreciate it, buddy. Take care, guys.

0:29:37.910 --> 0:29:38.490
<v Speaker 3>That was fun.

0:29:38.850 --> 0:29:39.090
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:29:39.550 --> 0:29:41.260
<v Speaker 3>You know, I think what's interesting what he mentioned about

0:29:41.320 --> 0:29:44.980
<v Speaker 3>denver it does feel like denver is still lightly respected

0:29:45.030 --> 0:29:47.010
<v Speaker 3>they could have got it last year the defensive backs

0:29:47.030 --> 0:29:48.590
<v Speaker 3>are awesome the defensive line's awesome.

0:29:48.870 --> 0:29:50.930
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah no i'm i gotta be honest we're gonna

0:29:50.950 --> 0:29:53.290
<v Speaker 2>do our super bowl picks in a little bit looking

0:29:53.310 --> 0:29:55.770
<v Speaker 2>pretty hard looking pretty hard to colorado.

0:29:55.810 --> 0:29:57.510
<v Speaker 3>Okay, don't tease it. Don't tease it. All right, let's

0:29:57.530 --> 0:30:00.070
<v Speaker 3>get to some not-so-fast predictions. We're doing it all day

0:30:00.110 --> 0:30:02.910
<v Speaker 3>on not-so-fast. The Offensive Rookie of the Year and the

0:30:02.970 --> 0:30:06.070
<v Speaker 3>Defensive Rookie of the Year. The O-Roy and the D-Roy. Pearl,

0:30:06.090 --> 0:30:07.230
<v Speaker 3>you go first. Offensive.

0:30:07.390 --> 0:30:10.260
<v Speaker 2>Okay, it's not a great offensive rookie class. In fact,

0:30:10.300 --> 0:30:12.950
<v Speaker 2>it's not a great draft class overall. You don't want

0:30:12.970 --> 0:30:14.940
<v Speaker 2>to pick the most obvious choice here, but I'll tell you,

0:30:14.960 --> 0:30:17.020
<v Speaker 2>I looked at the past Offensive Rookie of the Year winners.

0:30:17.380 --> 0:30:20.040
<v Speaker 2>There were a lot of top ten picks. So I'm

0:30:20.060 --> 0:30:21.940
<v Speaker 2>going to look mainly at the top ten, and that

0:30:21.960 --> 0:30:24.520
<v Speaker 2>would be Jeremiah Love and Carnell Tate. Those are my

0:30:24.620 --> 0:30:27.980
<v Speaker 2>top two guys. I know it's obvious. I'm going to

0:30:28.020 --> 0:30:30.370
<v Speaker 2>ride the obvious pick. Jeremiah Love is going to get

0:30:30.370 --> 0:30:32.670
<v Speaker 2>1,000 yards in Arizona. They're not going to win a

0:30:32.690 --> 0:30:35.010
<v Speaker 2>ton of games. In fact, I don't know if they're

0:30:35.030 --> 0:30:36.890
<v Speaker 2>going to win more than four or five games. That'll

0:30:36.910 --> 0:30:39.010
<v Speaker 2>be enough. Love wins the offensive rookie.

0:30:39.070 --> 0:30:40.570
<v Speaker 3>He's definitely going to get the touches out there. I

0:30:40.610 --> 0:30:41.650
<v Speaker 3>don't know if they're going to be able to block

0:30:41.690 --> 0:30:43.580
<v Speaker 3>for him. I think he's going to catch more than run.

0:30:43.940 --> 0:30:47.020
<v Speaker 3>I'm also going with a Notre Dame running back. Jadarian Price,

0:30:47.420 --> 0:30:50.380
<v Speaker 3>Seahawks rookie running back. I love Jadarian Price. Here's what

0:30:50.400 --> 0:30:53.360
<v Speaker 3>I like about them. The Seahawks let Kenneth Walker III go.

0:30:53.420 --> 0:30:55.940
<v Speaker 3>Now it's Ken Walker. And they bring in Jadarian Price

0:30:56.020 --> 0:30:58.260
<v Speaker 3>late in the first round. He is a cheaper option

0:30:58.300 --> 0:31:00.200
<v Speaker 3>for the next four years at that position, even though

0:31:00.220 --> 0:31:03.080
<v Speaker 3>he's a first-round pick. Jadarian Price in college, he never

0:31:03.120 --> 0:31:05.460
<v Speaker 3>had 200 carries in the season because Jeremiah Love did

0:31:05.500 --> 0:31:08.210
<v Speaker 3>the lion's share of the carry. He is a low-mileage option.

0:31:08.270 --> 0:31:10.530
<v Speaker 3>Jadarian Price, my rookie of the year. He averaged six

0:31:10.570 --> 0:31:11.910
<v Speaker 3>yards a carry in everything.

0:31:12.070 --> 0:31:13.350
<v Speaker 2>How do you know that's a good thing? We've never

0:31:13.410 --> 0:31:16.250
<v Speaker 2>seen him be a workhorse. Also, Seattle loves to split carries.

0:31:16.350 --> 0:31:18.730
<v Speaker 3>Derrick Henry was a low-mileage guy in college for most

0:31:18.770 --> 0:31:20.580
<v Speaker 3>of his career. I'm big on the low. You know

0:31:20.600 --> 0:31:21.060
<v Speaker 3>I like low-mileage.

0:31:21.080 --> 0:31:23.440
<v Speaker 2>You're already going Derrick Henry? You're going Derrick Henry.

0:31:23.620 --> 0:31:26.720
<v Speaker 3>I got high-mileage cars, low-mileage running backs. That's my motto.

0:31:26.760 --> 0:31:28.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just worry Zach Charbonnet is going to come

0:31:28.440 --> 0:31:32.080
<v Speaker 2>back eventually. I looked pretty hard at Price, but love.

0:31:32.180 --> 0:31:34.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean, who else? I know they have other running

0:31:34.080 --> 0:31:38.210
<v Speaker 2>backs there. They have to push Love. I feel pretty good.

0:31:38.330 --> 0:31:39.430
<v Speaker 2>And who started in their game?

0:31:40.470 --> 0:31:40.670
<v Speaker 1>Love.

0:31:41.640 --> 0:31:42.940
<v Speaker 3>You're going with Love. You always do.

0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:43.400
<v Speaker 4>You're a lover.

0:31:43.420 --> 0:31:45.300
<v Speaker 3>All right, let's get to it. The defensive rookie of

0:31:45.340 --> 0:31:46.820
<v Speaker 3>the year. I will go first.

0:31:46.900 --> 0:31:47.160
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

0:31:47.440 --> 0:31:49.880
<v Speaker 3>You know I'm a fan of short-armed people. You know me.

0:31:49.920 --> 0:31:52.340
<v Speaker 3>You're a long-armed guy, big wingspan. Me, not so much.

0:31:52.860 --> 0:31:55.719
<v Speaker 3>That's my tease here. Reuben Bain, the defensive end for

0:31:55.760 --> 0:31:58.200
<v Speaker 3>the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He was awesome with the Miami

0:31:58.240 --> 0:32:01.690
<v Speaker 3>Hurricanes last year. This guy is purely a pass rusher.

0:32:01.730 --> 0:32:04.020
<v Speaker 3>He's not there to do other things. And those guys

0:32:04.080 --> 0:32:06.480
<v Speaker 3>are the guys who get eight, nine, or ten sacks

0:32:06.530 --> 0:32:08.650
<v Speaker 3>as a rookie and just take the Defensive Rookie of

0:32:08.670 --> 0:32:11.570
<v Speaker 3>the Year award. Sacks get you the award. I'm going

0:32:11.610 --> 0:32:13.800
<v Speaker 3>Reuben Bain, short arms. but he's going to be able

0:32:13.840 --> 0:32:15.080
<v Speaker 3>to reach the trophy when he gets it.

0:32:15.100 --> 0:32:16.340
<v Speaker 2>But how is he going to get to the quarterback

0:32:16.360 --> 0:32:17.400
<v Speaker 2>with those little T-Rex arms?

0:32:17.440 --> 0:32:19.820
<v Speaker 3>The T-Rex arms are fine because he's running like this

0:32:19.900 --> 0:32:21.260
<v Speaker 3>and pushing people out.

0:32:21.440 --> 0:32:24.310
<v Speaker 2>Todd Bowles' defense, they sort of spread out the production.

0:32:24.440 --> 0:32:26.190
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to a defense that is going to have

0:32:26.210 --> 0:32:28.270
<v Speaker 2>big sack numbers this year, believe it or not. That's

0:32:28.290 --> 0:32:30.910
<v Speaker 2>the New York Jets. And David Bailey, to me, when

0:32:30.930 --> 0:32:33.350
<v Speaker 2>you watched college football last year, there was one pass

0:32:33.390 --> 0:32:36.450
<v Speaker 2>rusher that stood out. It was Bailey by far. Now listen,

0:32:36.470 --> 0:32:38.410
<v Speaker 2>I'm going obvious. I'm picking the number two overall pick

0:32:38.430 --> 0:32:40.520
<v Speaker 2>and the number three overall pick. I got David Bailey

0:32:40.540 --> 0:32:42.760
<v Speaker 2>for defensive rookie. I wish I didn't like your pick

0:32:42.800 --> 0:32:45.260
<v Speaker 2>so much, but it's a great pick. He's got longer arms, Paul.

0:32:45.360 --> 0:32:47.959
<v Speaker 3>He has longer arms, but I don't know if he's

0:32:48.000 --> 0:32:49.620
<v Speaker 3>a better person than Reuben Bain.

0:32:50.060 --> 0:32:50.660
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:32:50.880 --> 0:32:51.420
<v Speaker 3>If that matters.

0:32:51.940 --> 0:32:54.200
<v Speaker 2>All right, coming up next, we have the Clip Joy.

0:32:54.260 --> 0:32:58.140
<v Speaker 2>The Western Michigan-Michigan fallout continues on the Dan Pachter Show.

0:32:58.160 --> 0:32:59.460
<v Speaker 2>We'll get into it. Not so fast.

0:33:00.680 --> 0:33:02.790
<v Speaker 3>Back on Not So Fast with Paps and Perloff, getting

0:33:02.810 --> 0:33:04.970
<v Speaker 3>you ready for football tonight this is our little not

0:33:04.990 --> 0:33:07.330
<v Speaker 3>so fast tailgate not really out of hand yet it's

0:33:07.350 --> 0:33:10.350
<v Speaker 3>kind of ramping up yeah we got what eight hours

0:33:10.470 --> 0:33:12.410
<v Speaker 3>eight hours to go but we're ready we're marathon guys

0:33:12.430 --> 0:33:13.980
<v Speaker 3>all right this is the clip joint the good bad

0:33:14.000 --> 0:33:16.920
<v Speaker 3>and ugly that was booger mcfarland of espn joining dan

0:33:16.960 --> 0:33:19.060
<v Speaker 3>patrick earlier and it's nice that they could have a

0:33:19.120 --> 0:33:22.550
<v Speaker 3>nice little debate there but dan just couldn't convince booger

0:33:22.570 --> 0:33:24.430
<v Speaker 3>to go the other way later he said what if

0:33:24.450 --> 0:33:26.630
<v Speaker 3>we're lsu he goes If this were LSU, I'd be

0:33:26.650 --> 0:33:28.890
<v Speaker 3>stuck on the table. So that was a good back

0:33:28.930 --> 0:33:29.170
<v Speaker 3>and forth.

0:33:29.190 --> 0:33:32.140
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Dan and Booger always had great chemistry. I thought

0:33:32.160 --> 0:33:33.880
<v Speaker 2>he was going to get Booger. I was watching that

0:33:33.900 --> 0:33:36.900
<v Speaker 2>interview glued. But the problem is you're going to have

0:33:36.920 --> 0:33:38.860
<v Speaker 2>to take a win away from Michigan, and that has

0:33:38.940 --> 0:33:42.240
<v Speaker 2>ramifications as well. Not even talking about the Michigan fan base.

0:33:42.860 --> 0:33:45.500
<v Speaker 2>I actually, I side with Booger. I would not change

0:33:45.540 --> 0:33:45.860
<v Speaker 2>a result.

0:33:46.040 --> 0:33:48.140
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm with you from the standpoint of it's tough

0:33:48.160 --> 0:33:50.070
<v Speaker 3>to do because it sets some type of weird precedent.

0:33:50.440 --> 0:33:53.070
<v Speaker 3>But this game is going to become legendary. It's almost like,

0:33:53.510 --> 0:33:55.950
<v Speaker 3>If they just won the game, it's a great upset.

0:33:56.030 --> 0:33:57.750
<v Speaker 3>And we would have moved on in about a day.

0:33:57.770 --> 0:33:59.760
<v Speaker 3>We just said, like, wow, Western Michigan, what a great win.

0:34:00.280 --> 0:34:03.400
<v Speaker 3>Slow start for University of Michigan. But it wouldn't be

0:34:03.480 --> 0:34:05.820
<v Speaker 3>this thing. And it's a thing forever. And, you know,

0:34:05.840 --> 0:34:08.840
<v Speaker 3>it's funny. It's a long way away. But 2029, your

0:34:08.880 --> 0:34:11.180
<v Speaker 3>Western Michigan Broncos are back in Ann Arbor.

0:34:11.360 --> 0:34:13.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh, wow. I mean, luckily it was this game, too.

0:34:13.780 --> 0:34:16.370
<v Speaker 2>What if this was Michigan-Ohio State? What if this was

0:34:16.410 --> 0:34:20.090
<v Speaker 2>a playoff game? So now the whole sport got a warning.

0:34:20.650 --> 0:34:22.610
<v Speaker 2>Next time we get down to zero on the clock,

0:34:23.070 --> 0:34:27.380
<v Speaker 2>You know, you follow what's on TV. Awesome, yeah. I

0:34:27.430 --> 0:34:30.239
<v Speaker 2>love that interview, and I love how close Booger came

0:34:30.300 --> 0:34:33.140
<v Speaker 2>to actually flip-flopping, but the result stands.

0:34:33.300 --> 0:34:35.299
<v Speaker 3>Now, here's a game that maybe this coach does not

0:34:35.320 --> 0:34:37.400
<v Speaker 3>want to talk about anymore, but he has to. Dabo Sweeney,

0:34:37.420 --> 0:34:39.980
<v Speaker 3>the head coach at Clemson, they got absolutely lit up

0:34:40.540 --> 0:34:43.720
<v Speaker 3>the other day against LSU. Well, you know, he decided

0:34:43.760 --> 0:34:45.090
<v Speaker 3>now to put up a fight. He put up a

0:34:45.120 --> 0:34:46.969
<v Speaker 3>fight with a press member in the press conference.

0:34:49.489 --> 0:34:53.120
<v Speaker 1>Do you regret anything about your off-season roster construction right now?

0:34:54.480 --> 0:34:55.980
<v Speaker 4>Chapel, you come with all these questions.

0:34:56.860 --> 0:35:00.480
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you, you're the gotcha guy. No, I don't.

0:35:00.760 --> 0:35:01.239
<v Speaker 3>I don't, man.

0:35:01.380 --> 0:35:02.859
<v Speaker 4>I regret being 0-1-1 right now.

0:35:03.200 --> 0:35:03.910
<v Speaker 3>I regret that.

0:35:05.090 --> 0:35:09.810
<v Speaker 4>But, no, we're– can you ask me that at the

0:35:09.830 --> 0:35:12.109
<v Speaker 4>end of the season? You know, the season isn't over.

0:35:12.130 --> 0:35:13.969
<v Speaker 4>I mean, we've got one game. We've got 11 more.

0:35:14.530 --> 0:35:15.009
<v Speaker 3>What if we go 11-1-1?

0:35:16.960 --> 0:35:18.339
<v Speaker 4>You promised me you asked me that then?

0:35:18.500 --> 0:35:20.060
<v Speaker 2>Okay, good. I'll answer it. All right?

0:35:20.200 --> 0:35:23.720
<v Speaker 4>But I'm not answering questions like that, you know, Chapel.

0:35:23.739 --> 0:35:26.200
<v Speaker 4>I know that's your role and that's in this environment,

0:35:26.219 --> 0:35:29.500
<v Speaker 4>you know, to be the guy that wants to create

0:35:29.520 --> 0:35:32.919
<v Speaker 4>all the controversy and ask the controversial questions. If that's

0:35:33.020 --> 0:35:33.950
<v Speaker 4>who you are, that's fine.

0:35:35.050 --> 0:35:38.330
<v Speaker 2>I get it. But I'll answer that. We played one game.

0:35:39.530 --> 0:35:39.830
<v Speaker 2>One game.

0:35:40.650 --> 0:35:42.970
<v Speaker 3>All right? Did you play football?

0:35:44.190 --> 0:35:44.509
<v Speaker 2>No. Okay.

0:35:44.550 --> 0:35:45.630
<v Speaker 3>Well, they give you 12 games.

0:35:47.040 --> 0:35:48.470
<v Speaker 4>And at the end of the year, you count them up.

0:35:49.739 --> 0:35:50.120
<v Speaker 3>All right.

0:35:50.580 --> 0:35:54.160
<v Speaker 4>And, you know, that's when that's when those type of

0:35:54.200 --> 0:35:58.390
<v Speaker 4>questions are fair to me. You know, not after one

0:35:58.430 --> 0:36:00.950
<v Speaker 4>game to maybe the best team in the country.

0:36:03.290 --> 0:36:05.370
<v Speaker 2>Dabo was doing OK until he went to the did

0:36:05.390 --> 0:36:07.450
<v Speaker 2>you play football? We know that doesn't end well for

0:36:07.489 --> 0:36:08.210
<v Speaker 2>an interview subject.

0:36:08.650 --> 0:36:08.750
<v Speaker 3>And.

0:36:09.180 --> 0:36:11.759
<v Speaker 2>The guy who asked the question isn't creating the controversy.

0:36:11.860 --> 0:36:14.740
<v Speaker 2>Clemson is creating the controversy by getting killed by LSU.

0:36:14.880 --> 0:36:17.060
<v Speaker 3>I'm with you. Dabo had me for a while. Like, hey,

0:36:17.120 --> 0:36:20.200
<v Speaker 3>calm down. He went the old Aaron Rodgers, relax. It's

0:36:20.260 --> 0:36:23.200
<v Speaker 3>not over yet. Now, you were 7-6 last year. You

0:36:23.219 --> 0:36:25.960
<v Speaker 3>just got absolutely annihilated on national TV. You can't go

0:36:26.020 --> 0:36:28.800
<v Speaker 3>scorched earth. But when he went, did you play football?

0:36:29.120 --> 0:36:30.200
<v Speaker 3>If I were there, I would have said, yeah, I

0:36:30.200 --> 0:36:32.390
<v Speaker 3>was a backup defensive tackle for the Glenwood Cougars in

0:36:32.530 --> 0:36:35.270
<v Speaker 3>7th and 8th grade. What about that, Dabo? I don't

0:36:35.290 --> 0:36:36.190
<v Speaker 3>know what he would have said there.

0:36:36.570 --> 0:36:38.910
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it's so funny. Dabo was surprised by the question.

0:36:38.930 --> 0:36:41.529
<v Speaker 2>They just got absolutely blown out by LSU. Funny thing

0:36:41.570 --> 0:36:43.610
<v Speaker 2>about Clemson, last year they had a pretty good roster.

0:36:43.660 --> 0:36:45.940
<v Speaker 2>There were a lot of pro players on that roster.

0:36:46.260 --> 0:36:48.719
<v Speaker 2>So this question about this year's roster construction, not only

0:36:48.739 --> 0:36:51.259
<v Speaker 2>is it fair, I think it's necessary for that fan base.

0:36:51.320 --> 0:36:53.339
<v Speaker 3>And the funny thing is, Clemson fans are getting used

0:36:53.380 --> 0:36:55.300
<v Speaker 3>to losing in Week 1. He's done this a lot

0:36:55.320 --> 0:36:56.920
<v Speaker 3>the past five years, as you saw right there. But

0:36:57.739 --> 0:36:59.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt

0:36:59.390 --> 0:37:01.630
<v Speaker 3>for about a month. Because he can clean this up

0:37:01.670 --> 0:37:02.669
<v Speaker 3>with three straight wins.

0:37:03.370 --> 0:37:05.830
<v Speaker 2>I've been consistent all along. I think Dabo's on his

0:37:05.890 --> 0:37:06.270
<v Speaker 2>way out.

0:37:06.390 --> 0:37:06.890
<v Speaker 3>I think so, too.

0:37:07.430 --> 0:37:10.370
<v Speaker 2>I think that he is not really ready for this

0:37:10.510 --> 0:37:12.730
<v Speaker 2>era of NIL. I think he doesn't want to change.

0:37:13.010 --> 0:37:14.350
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't want to change with the times. He might

0:37:14.370 --> 0:37:16.029
<v Speaker 2>as well do what Nick Saban did and just leave.

0:37:16.090 --> 0:37:18.820
<v Speaker 3>What a wild career turn. Because six or seven years ago,

0:37:18.910 --> 0:37:20.779
<v Speaker 3>he was the coach in waiting for Alabama. It was

0:37:20.800 --> 0:37:23.390
<v Speaker 3>just like, they're going to hand off Alabama football to him. Now,

0:37:23.650 --> 0:37:26.250
<v Speaker 3>he's going to have to restart his career at a

0:37:26.310 --> 0:37:28.129
<v Speaker 3>tier lower if he goes somewhere else next year.

0:37:28.170 --> 0:37:29.950
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I don't expect that to happen. All right,

0:37:29.989 --> 0:37:32.100
<v Speaker 2>let's go to the NFL. Aaron Donald did not travel

0:37:32.120 --> 0:37:34.319
<v Speaker 2>to the Rams in Australia for their opener tomorrow night.

0:37:34.739 --> 0:37:37.820
<v Speaker 2>And Niners coach Kyle Shanahan was quite happy when he

0:37:37.860 --> 0:37:38.419
<v Speaker 2>learned the news.

0:37:40.660 --> 0:37:43.859
<v Speaker 3>I just smiled and said, that's good. So we're going

0:37:43.880 --> 0:37:44.700
<v Speaker 3>to have to see him eventually.

0:37:44.719 --> 0:37:45.700
<v Speaker 2>We play them twice.

0:37:47.120 --> 0:37:49.020
<v Speaker 3>But I was hoping he won it. I was preparing

0:37:49.040 --> 0:37:49.520
<v Speaker 3>for the worst.

0:37:49.540 --> 0:37:49.660
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:37:51.910 --> 0:37:53.069
<v Speaker 3>Glad that we don't have to see him this week.

0:37:54.050 --> 0:37:57.080
<v Speaker 3>I love the honesty. Nobody wants to face Aaron Donald.

0:37:57.340 --> 0:37:58.700
<v Speaker 3>He's not trying to be one of those tough guy

0:37:58.739 --> 0:38:00.779
<v Speaker 3>coaches like, we'll take on any comers, we'll take on

0:38:00.820 --> 0:38:03.430
<v Speaker 3>all channels. No, and I wish Miles Garrett would stay

0:38:03.450 --> 0:38:04.130
<v Speaker 3>home and rest with him.

0:38:04.620 --> 0:38:06.319
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I think that Kyle Shanahan's a little

0:38:06.360 --> 0:38:08.069
<v Speaker 2>punch drunk from the time zone, Chase.

0:38:08.110 --> 0:38:08.630
<v Speaker 3>And I like it.

0:38:08.989 --> 0:38:11.290
<v Speaker 2>But he was trying to use all this Rams hype

0:38:11.370 --> 0:38:13.850
<v Speaker 2>as bulletin board material coming into the week. You know

0:38:13.890 --> 0:38:15.370
<v Speaker 2>that he was in the locker room saying, did you

0:38:15.450 --> 0:38:17.670
<v Speaker 2>see all these people were picking the Rams? So I

0:38:17.690 --> 0:38:19.660
<v Speaker 2>don't know why he's all of a sudden being like, oh,

0:38:19.680 --> 0:38:21.899
<v Speaker 2>I'm happy Aaron Donald isn't here. And let's be honest,

0:38:21.960 --> 0:38:23.580
<v Speaker 2>Aaron Donald just got to camp. Was he going to

0:38:23.600 --> 0:38:24.440
<v Speaker 2>make that big a difference?

0:38:24.900 --> 0:38:26.480
<v Speaker 3>I think so. I don't think he's going to be

0:38:26.500 --> 0:38:28.480
<v Speaker 3>Miles Garrett week one. But I think Aaron Donald, what

0:38:28.500 --> 0:38:30.940
<v Speaker 3>an interesting position to be in for your final season

0:38:31.280 --> 0:38:33.950
<v Speaker 3>where you have this negotiated employee where I'm not going

0:38:33.969 --> 0:38:35.910
<v Speaker 3>to go here. I'm going to play at home. If

0:38:35.950 --> 0:38:37.210
<v Speaker 3>we get to the Super Bowl, I get to play

0:38:37.230 --> 0:38:38.850
<v Speaker 3>at home. If we get home field advantage, I get

0:38:38.890 --> 0:38:40.390
<v Speaker 3>to stay at home. He's going to be going to

0:38:40.430 --> 0:38:42.009
<v Speaker 3>PTA meetings on Tuesdays on.

0:38:41.989 --> 0:38:42.430
<v Speaker 2>His day off.

0:38:42.510 --> 0:38:44.969
<v Speaker 3>Aaron Donald has all the balls in his court, and

0:38:44.989 --> 0:38:48.560
<v Speaker 3>he's going to make $ 20- plus million to play 21 games.

0:38:48.800 --> 0:38:51.220
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and obviously going to Australia would be a huge

0:38:51.280 --> 0:38:54.540
<v Speaker 2>burden physically on a guy who's 35, although I did

0:38:54.560 --> 0:38:56.259
<v Speaker 2>see the play, and it looks very, very nice.

0:38:56.280 --> 0:38:57.859
<v Speaker 3>It does look comfy. Guys like us would have gone.

0:38:58.050 --> 0:38:58.910
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely.

0:38:58.930 --> 0:39:00.810
<v Speaker 3>All right, let's get to it. It's time for our

0:39:00.890 --> 0:39:03.270
<v Speaker 3>next NFL pick, getting you ready for the season. We

0:39:03.290 --> 0:39:05.770
<v Speaker 3>did some Opoi, some Depoi. Now it's time for the

0:39:05.989 --> 0:39:09.020
<v Speaker 3>NFL most valuable player. I'm going to go first, Perloff.

0:39:09.120 --> 0:39:09.299
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

0:39:09.580 --> 0:39:12.930
<v Speaker 3>Now, you know the MVP is about timing, who you are,

0:39:12.980 --> 0:39:15.500
<v Speaker 3>when you are. Here's some people who can't win it.

0:39:16.120 --> 0:39:18.339
<v Speaker 3>I don't think Josh Allen can win it because he

0:39:18.380 --> 0:39:20.630
<v Speaker 3>hasn't advanced deep in the playoffs, and it's going to

0:39:20.640 --> 0:39:22.509
<v Speaker 3>be a ding against him. He could have another great

0:39:22.550 --> 0:39:25.690
<v Speaker 3>regular season. Lamar Jackson, he can win it, but it's

0:39:25.710 --> 0:39:28.050
<v Speaker 3>going to be tough because he's got a couple. Patrick

0:39:28.070 --> 0:39:29.870
<v Speaker 3>Mahomes could definitely win it because he missed a lot

0:39:29.910 --> 0:39:31.230
<v Speaker 3>of last season. And if he has one of those

0:39:31.230 --> 0:39:34.830
<v Speaker 3>40 touchdown years, Herbert, of course. My pick is Joe

0:39:34.870 --> 0:39:37.710
<v Speaker 3>Burrow because it's his time. I think the entire NFL

0:39:37.770 --> 0:39:40.740
<v Speaker 3>media would love to hand it to Joe Burrow. New story.

0:39:40.910 --> 0:39:44.680
<v Speaker 3>Stay healthy. 4,300 yards, 44 touchdowns.

0:39:44.719 --> 0:39:48.219
<v Speaker 2>The award is yours. Listen, Joe Burrow is obviously... one

0:39:48.239 --> 0:39:51.040
<v Speaker 2>of the best quarterbacks in the league, strong case. But

0:39:51.219 --> 0:39:53.630
<v Speaker 2>can he stay healthy, Paul? That's it. It's been a while.

0:39:54.430 --> 0:39:56.710
<v Speaker 2>And can the Bengals be a winning team? Now, to

0:39:56.750 --> 0:39:59.190
<v Speaker 2>be MVP, you have to have double-digit wins. That's an

0:39:59.390 --> 0:40:02.850
<v Speaker 2>absolute necessity. So the Bengals' defense falling apart could actually

0:40:02.910 --> 0:40:07.100
<v Speaker 2>cost Burrow. I am actually going to do something a

0:40:07.120 --> 0:40:09.860
<v Speaker 2>little controversial. All last week I was saying there's too

0:40:09.900 --> 0:40:13.080
<v Speaker 2>much hype around the Cowboys. But if the Cowboys get

0:40:13.140 --> 0:40:16.029
<v Speaker 2>to 11 wins, which I expect them to do, Then

0:40:16.090 --> 0:40:19.800
<v Speaker 2>Dak Prescott is your NFL MVP. He came in second

0:40:19.840 --> 0:40:23.200
<v Speaker 2>in the voting in 2023. Last year, he had great numbers,

0:40:23.200 --> 0:40:28.080
<v Speaker 2>30 touchdowns, 10 interceptions. He could put up huge offensive

0:40:28.140 --> 0:40:31.460
<v Speaker 2>numbers here, Paul. If Dak Prescott throws 40 touchdowns, which

0:40:31.500 --> 0:40:35.330
<v Speaker 2>is very possible with receivers like Lamb and Pickens, stronger

0:40:35.390 --> 0:40:37.810
<v Speaker 2>running game. I don't know if the defense is fixed.

0:40:37.850 --> 0:40:39.719
<v Speaker 2>You know what? If the defense is not totally fixed,

0:40:39.739 --> 0:40:42.500
<v Speaker 2>that means more offense for Dallas. I think they win

0:40:42.540 --> 0:40:45.500
<v Speaker 2>double-digit games. I'm actually picking them to win the NFC

0:40:45.560 --> 0:40:49.500
<v Speaker 2>East over the Eagles. Both are playoff teams. But if

0:40:49.520 --> 0:40:51.990
<v Speaker 2>you get 11 wins with Dallas and Dak has big numbers,

0:40:52.370 --> 0:40:53.850
<v Speaker 2>I think they want to give it to Dak. The

0:40:53.890 --> 0:40:56.950
<v Speaker 2>media likes Dak Prescott. And you're right. Josh Allen already

0:40:56.969 --> 0:41:00.630
<v Speaker 2>got his. Lamar's gotten twice. Burrow, I'm just not sure

0:41:00.670 --> 0:41:03.450
<v Speaker 2>the team is good enough. I think the defense sells

0:41:03.610 --> 0:41:05.930
<v Speaker 2>major question marks, and that might cost them. I think

0:41:06.010 --> 0:41:07.730
<v Speaker 2>Dak hits all the right spots.

0:41:07.830 --> 0:41:10.110
<v Speaker 3>Dude, you are more all-in than Jerry Jones is on

0:41:10.170 --> 0:41:11.610
<v Speaker 3>his team. You're going to be the guy sitting next

0:41:11.630 --> 0:41:13.220
<v Speaker 3>to him in the booth cleaning his glasses one day.

0:41:13.230 --> 0:41:15.640
<v Speaker 2>Well, for me, the hype about the Cowboys was the playoffs.

0:41:16.000 --> 0:41:18.719
<v Speaker 2>We've seen them go 12-5 and then bow out early

0:41:18.739 --> 0:41:20.680
<v Speaker 2>in the playoffs time and time again. So when people

0:41:20.700 --> 0:41:22.259
<v Speaker 2>are talking about Super Bowl picks, I do not want

0:41:22.280 --> 0:41:24.339
<v Speaker 2>to see Dallas. But if you're talking about awards, which

0:41:24.380 --> 0:41:26.740
<v Speaker 2>are based on the regular season, let's go Dak.

0:41:26.880 --> 0:41:28.930
<v Speaker 3>Wow, I've never seen someone all-in. I'm surprised you didn't

0:41:28.950 --> 0:41:30.910
<v Speaker 3>pick Caleb Downs as well. I'll give you the do-over

0:41:30.950 --> 0:41:33.549
<v Speaker 3>on that. All right, coming up next, it's time for

0:41:33.690 --> 0:41:36.270
<v Speaker 3>our Super Bowl picks. Vegas is waiting. Vegas wants to know.

0:41:36.290 --> 0:41:39.589
<v Speaker 3>It's going to set the lines. NSF Super Bowl picks next.

0:41:39.850 --> 0:41:40.230
<v Speaker 3>Stick around.

0:41:42.010 --> 0:41:44.350
<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to Not So Fast, Perloff and Paps. I

0:41:44.489 --> 0:41:48.009
<v Speaker 2>love this. NBC Sports logo, NFL kickoff week. Let's go

0:41:48.050 --> 0:41:51.340
<v Speaker 2>over some of the luminaries there. We've got Mike Florio,

0:41:51.380 --> 0:41:55.110
<v Speaker 2>Mike Tomlin, of course, DP. Then there's Paul Paps and

0:41:55.310 --> 0:41:56.290
<v Speaker 2>Andrew Perloff.

0:41:56.310 --> 0:41:58.910
<v Speaker 3>You know, I just checked. I assume you photoshopped us

0:41:58.950 --> 0:42:01.480
<v Speaker 3>into that picture. That's an official NBC Sports Now photo.

0:42:01.719 --> 0:42:03.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, why are we the same height, though, Paul?

0:42:03.700 --> 0:42:05.520
<v Speaker 3>They did take you down three or four inches.

0:42:05.900 --> 0:42:07.819
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I've got to tell you, it gets me

0:42:07.940 --> 0:42:08.680
<v Speaker 2>so fired up.

0:42:08.719 --> 0:42:10.879
<v Speaker 3>We're happy to be there. We're just happy to be there.

0:42:11.020 --> 0:42:13.339
<v Speaker 2>Well, we're also happy with these football seasons here. We've

0:42:13.360 --> 0:42:17.310
<v Speaker 2>been doing predictions all show long. We are getting now

0:42:17.410 --> 0:42:21.220
<v Speaker 2>to the finale. Super Bowl pick. By the way, DP

0:42:21.239 --> 0:42:23.860
<v Speaker 2>went today. He went Broncos over Eagles.

0:42:23.880 --> 0:42:24.380
<v Speaker 3>That's gutsy.

0:42:24.820 --> 0:42:27.919
<v Speaker 2>It's gutsy. I'm an Eagles fan. I was happy about that.

0:42:27.980 --> 0:42:30.120
<v Speaker 2>Dan is pretty accurate with these picks. But we're going

0:42:30.140 --> 0:42:31.660
<v Speaker 2>to give it our best shot, too. Paul, you want

0:42:31.680 --> 0:42:32.240
<v Speaker 2>to start off?

0:42:32.340 --> 0:42:34.810
<v Speaker 3>I'll go first. I am not picking the Rams or

0:42:34.850 --> 0:42:36.870
<v Speaker 3>the Bills. I decided to go away from those. Based

0:42:36.890 --> 0:42:40.589
<v Speaker 3>off last year, nobody saw the Seahawks coming. Nobody saw

0:42:40.650 --> 0:42:42.770
<v Speaker 3>the Patriots coming. I wanted to go a little off

0:42:42.810 --> 0:42:44.590
<v Speaker 3>the board, not just to be cool, not to pander,

0:42:45.070 --> 0:42:48.400
<v Speaker 3>but I'm going Lions over Bengals to win the Super Bowl,

0:42:48.440 --> 0:42:50.700
<v Speaker 3>and here's why. The Lions feel like they're a bit due.

0:42:51.219 --> 0:42:53.339
<v Speaker 3>The Bengals feel like they're a bit due. When they

0:42:53.360 --> 0:42:55.419
<v Speaker 3>put their teams together, I love the Dexter Lawrence pickup

0:42:55.440 --> 0:42:57.920
<v Speaker 3>for the Bengals. I like the Lions lineup every year.

0:42:57.940 --> 0:43:00.240
<v Speaker 3>I think they're a Super Bowl contender every year. They're

0:43:00.280 --> 0:43:02.049
<v Speaker 3>due to win it. They've got to win it. Same

0:43:02.070 --> 0:43:03.370
<v Speaker 3>with the Bengals. It's the due bowl.

0:43:04.050 --> 0:43:06.270
<v Speaker 2>Okay, the Brooklyn Nets are due to win an NBA title.

0:43:06.310 --> 0:43:07.489
<v Speaker 2>That doesn't mean it's going to happen, Paul.

0:43:07.510 --> 0:43:08.390
<v Speaker 3>That's a warm take.

0:43:08.690 --> 0:43:11.470
<v Speaker 2>Honestly, my big concern about the Lions is Ben Johnson.

0:43:11.510 --> 0:43:13.430
<v Speaker 2>I think the best coach in that building is in

0:43:13.469 --> 0:43:17.270
<v Speaker 2>Chicago right now. Can I just ask, were you tempted

0:43:17.290 --> 0:43:17.850
<v Speaker 2>to pick the Bears?

0:43:18.390 --> 0:43:21.410
<v Speaker 3>No, I almost like Bears fans are used to bad

0:43:21.469 --> 0:43:23.450
<v Speaker 3>things happening, and to pick the Bears to win the

0:43:23.469 --> 0:43:25.770
<v Speaker 3>Super Bowl would be counter to the Bears fans' mentality.

0:43:25.870 --> 0:43:27.990
<v Speaker 2>And I also don't know about that coach in Cincinnati,

0:43:28.030 --> 0:43:30.400
<v Speaker 2>Zach Taylor, but I do like your pick a lot.

0:43:30.420 --> 0:43:30.759
<v Speaker 2>Give it to me.

0:43:30.760 --> 0:43:31.839
<v Speaker 3>That would be amazing.

0:43:32.200 --> 0:43:36.360
<v Speaker 2>Okay. No one can accuse me of copying Dan Patrick,

0:43:36.380 --> 0:43:39.459
<v Speaker 2>because I emailed our producer, Scott Messina, earlier in the day.

0:43:39.480 --> 0:43:44.370
<v Speaker 2>I have the Denver Broncos defeating the L.A. Rams. Wow. Listen,

0:43:44.670 --> 0:43:48.230
<v Speaker 2>the Rams hype is obviously real. I know the odds

0:43:48.430 --> 0:43:51.009
<v Speaker 2>are that the favorite rarely wins at all. That's why

0:43:51.030 --> 0:43:53.330
<v Speaker 2>I have them losing to Denver. Denver has everything. They

0:43:53.370 --> 0:43:55.130
<v Speaker 2>have most of their defense back, and their defense was

0:43:55.210 --> 0:43:58.430
<v Speaker 2>very elite last year. This year, Bo Nix is back,

0:43:58.469 --> 0:44:00.830
<v Speaker 2>and he's got a new coordinator, Davis Webb. Getting in

0:44:00.850 --> 0:44:04.030
<v Speaker 2>the plays really fast is what everyone's saying. The offense

0:44:04.070 --> 0:44:06.950
<v Speaker 2>is humming. Add Jalen Waddell for a vertical element. I

0:44:06.989 --> 0:44:09.850
<v Speaker 2>just don't see the flaw. The biggest concern I have, Paul,

0:44:09.890 --> 0:44:12.320
<v Speaker 2>is the schedule. It's going to be tough. They're in

0:44:12.360 --> 0:44:14.460
<v Speaker 2>the AFC West with the Chargers and the Chiefs, not

0:44:14.500 --> 0:44:17.100
<v Speaker 2>so much the Raiders. They have a very, very tough

0:44:17.320 --> 0:44:19.660
<v Speaker 2>opening part to the season, the first six games. I

0:44:19.700 --> 0:44:21.779
<v Speaker 2>really like Bo Nix, and, of course, I like Sean Payton.

0:44:22.700 --> 0:44:24.710
<v Speaker 2>I am a little worried that I'm going to be

0:44:24.730 --> 0:44:28.190
<v Speaker 2>the mush on Dan's pick, but I've liked the Broncos

0:44:28.370 --> 0:44:30.390
<v Speaker 2>all offseason long. I thought they would have made it

0:44:30.430 --> 0:44:32.410
<v Speaker 2>last year if Bo Nix had stayed healthy, and they

0:44:32.430 --> 0:44:34.590
<v Speaker 2>almost made it with Jared Stidham. So I got Denver

0:44:34.670 --> 0:44:35.169
<v Speaker 2>over the Rams.

0:44:35.210 --> 0:44:37.230
<v Speaker 3>All right, love your pick, love the waddle pickup. That's

0:44:37.270 --> 0:44:39.129
<v Speaker 3>kind of quiet and sneaky. It's time for a little

0:44:39.170 --> 0:44:42.550
<v Speaker 3>leftovers here on Not So Fast. Always room for leftovers.

0:44:43.130 --> 0:44:45.549
<v Speaker 3>This is a cool thing. We love the Heisman here

0:44:45.610 --> 0:44:48.170
<v Speaker 3>on the show. This is called the Heisman Hopefuls Fan Vote.

0:44:48.190 --> 0:44:50.350
<v Speaker 3>It just went live a couple hours ago. You probably

0:44:50.390 --> 0:44:55.040
<v Speaker 3>already voted for Malachi Tony. Heisman.com slash hopefuls. You can

0:44:55.060 --> 0:44:57.560
<v Speaker 3>vote for the top three players. It's a true Heisman vote.

0:44:57.880 --> 0:44:59.319
<v Speaker 3>And the fan has a voice this year.

0:44:59.540 --> 0:44:59.660
<v Speaker 2>And.

0:45:00.180 --> 0:45:01.940
<v Speaker 3>You don't have to just vote for quarterbacks or wide

0:45:01.960 --> 0:45:04.240
<v Speaker 3>receivers or running backs. You can vote for a defensive

0:45:04.260 --> 0:45:04.930
<v Speaker 3>tackle if you like.

0:45:05.200 --> 0:45:07.870
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, listen, I've been all over Malachi, Tony.

0:45:07.890 --> 0:45:11.310
<v Speaker 2>I love, there's a player at Texas, Colin Simmons. I

0:45:11.350 --> 0:45:14.290
<v Speaker 2>love the defensive end as well. Yeah, no, this is

0:45:14.550 --> 0:45:16.330
<v Speaker 2>a great year for college football too. There's so many

0:45:16.370 --> 0:45:18.650
<v Speaker 2>stars to vote for. I'm going to go back often.

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<v Speaker 2>But Malachi, Tony, I got to tell you, right now

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<v Speaker 2>he's number one, Paul.

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<v Speaker 3>Every Friday on the show, we go getting the Heisman.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll do that on Friday and not so fast. All right,

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<v Speaker 3>time for a little constructive criticism. What do you think

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<v Speaker 3>about our hair? or commentary, or sports. Here we go.

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<v Speaker 3>A little constructive criticism, Pearl.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 3>First one up. Which quarterback take a step forward or back? Allen, Burrow, Jackson,

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<v Speaker 3>et cetera.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 3>How about a step back? Out of those three, a

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<v Speaker 3>step back.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. Well, Allen's got the same offense coordinator, so he's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be the same. Burrow is lining up for

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<v Speaker 2>a good season. I've got to tell you, Lamar Jackson,

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<v Speaker 2>because of the new offense, Declan Doyle's there, unproven. I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen a lot of really strong analytical people say that

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<v Speaker 2>Lamar Jackson is not going to have the same kind

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<v Speaker 2>of stat season that he did as an MVP. That

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean the team is going to be worse, but

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<v Speaker 2>I do not expect Lamar Jackson to hold on the

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<v Speaker 2>ball and make all the wow plays. I think they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a little more conservative on offense.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, more constructive criticism tomorrow. Send in your comments on Twitter.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll get to them on the air. It's time for

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<v Speaker 3>something to put you in a good moodie, as if

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<v Speaker 3>you're not already with Football Tonight on NBC. Here is

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<v Speaker 3>the feel-good. Little tennis last night, Pearl. My guy, Francis Tiafoe,

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<v Speaker 3>consoling Alex Mickelson after beating him. Look at that. Mickelson

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<v Speaker 3>kind of broke down. Great match, great comeback by Tiafoe.

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<v Speaker 3>And then late night. This match started at 11 p.m. Eastern.

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<v Speaker 3>Ben Shelton against Alcaraz went to 3.30 in the morning.

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<v Speaker 3>We were up and watching, of course.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was really touched by Tiafoe because his opponent

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<v Speaker 2>has been serving for the match on the third point.

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<v Speaker 2>They're old friends, both Americans. Tennis is grueling because you

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<v Speaker 2>work for four hours and someone's got to lose. Now

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<v Speaker 2>I'm all about the American's ball. Let's go.

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<v Speaker 3>That is some late-night sports, though. I mean, playing at

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<v Speaker 3>3.30 in the morning, I guess you just got to

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<v Speaker 3>ignore it like Shanahan.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, listen, it's tough on us, too. We're the ones

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<v Speaker 2>who suffer because we have to watch this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, think about us staying up all night playing with

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<v Speaker 3>the remote. All right, coming up tonight, NBC Sports, Pat Seahawks,

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<v Speaker 3>who you got?

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<v Speaker 2>I am going Seahawks. They won on a neutral field.

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<v Speaker 2>They'll definitely win in the home field.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to go Patriots in a close one, hopefully overtime,

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<v Speaker 3>so we can be even more tired tomorrow. All right,

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<v Speaker 3>stick around. More football coverage tomorrow on the Dan Patrick Show,

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<v Speaker 3>9 to noon Eastern on NBC Sports Now. And then,

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<v Speaker 3>not so fast, every day, right here on NBC Sports Now.

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<v Speaker 3>Send in your thoughts. Send in your comments. They'll make

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<v Speaker 3>the air. Football time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, baby. Let's go Broncos.

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<v Speaker 3>Dun, dun, dun, dun.