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Speaker 1: Happy mind. Everybody.

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Speaker 2: Welcome into Texans All Access from the Hyundai Texans Radio studio.

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Speaker 1: So glad to be with you.

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Speaker 2: John Harris Football on all the side of the reporter

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Speaker 2: alongside the voice of the Texans, Mark Vandermir Mark Scotty

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Speaker 2: Scheffler wins the PGA.

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Speaker 1: Thoughts, that's how we're going to start this, Okay, Scotty

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Speaker 1: is the best right now, no question. And when he

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Speaker 1: really burst out of the scene, I was a little

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Speaker 1: worried because he had a little dip after he burst

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Speaker 1: out of the scene, and I thought, Oh, we're going

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Speaker 1: to get another speed like situation here, and I like

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Speaker 1: Jordan speed. I pulled for Jordan's speed. I want him

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Speaker 1: to come back. And it's not like he's horrible. This

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Speaker 1: is not like a David Duval total disappearance situation. Oh

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Speaker 1: David Duval.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I taught his sister, Oh you did, yeah, Deirdre

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Speaker 1: Yeah. David used to go at Episcopal.

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Speaker 2: This was the long held story about David was he

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Speaker 2: would he would be on the grounds of Episcopal and

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Speaker 2: he would take his nine iron and hit shots at

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Speaker 2: the bridge, the Green Bridge over to the stadium.

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Speaker 1: It's just clang clang Clan's the Bridge. People forget how

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Speaker 1: good he was. He was so very good and then

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Speaker 1: he just dropped off the face of the earth. And

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Speaker 1: Speed is still on tour, still in minus numbers and

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Speaker 1: all that. But you know this will tell you a lot.

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Speaker 1: Last week's what was it Scheffler winning the what was

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Speaker 1: it the Byron Nelson? Whatever it was? Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: so okay, So he had like minus thirty and I

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Speaker 1: think the second place golfer was minus twenty three golf

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Speaker 1: where you could be minus twenty three and still be

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Speaker 1: getting your ass kicked. Right, that's a strange one right there.

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Speaker 1: But I loved Scotty winning and Go Texas and all

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Speaker 1: of that. But let's see if some of these other

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Speaker 1: guys can rise up. I like it when the live

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Speaker 1: guys lose live where golfers go to make a lot

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Speaker 1: of money but never be heard from again except for

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Speaker 1: in major is where they don't win. Now, I know, Bryce,

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Speaker 1: it has done well.

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Speaker 2: You want to make flirting though he's not been sealing

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Speaker 2: the deal. No, no, he did last year, but it's

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Speaker 2: not been sealing the deal. Ye, he was masters he's flirting,

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Speaker 2: and then bad Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Round people root for him, But to me, he's got

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Speaker 1: a big following.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: Does anyone know who wins a live tournament, who's doing

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Speaker 1: well in live? No, all these golfers are there, but

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Speaker 1: nobody cares. Nobody knows. They got to figure out a

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Speaker 1: way to get this deal done between the two tours

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Speaker 1: and figure it out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, get him back together. I thought, you know, how

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Speaker 2: I've talked about this with quarterbacks in the NFL in particular,

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Speaker 2: how you deal with adversity, I think is it tells

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Speaker 2: you a lot. One year ago at Valhalla in Louisville, Kentucky,

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Speaker 2: Scotti Scheffler was in a police car. Oh yeah, with

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Speaker 2: some kind of nonsense situation. And it's funny because on

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Speaker 2: full swing they had they had video of the hole,

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Speaker 2: they had everything, and it was it was not it

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Speaker 2: was a it was a railroad job. I felt bad

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Speaker 2: for Scotty. He had to go through that, and he

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Speaker 2: handled that like a champ. But he did not obviously

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Speaker 2: play exceptionally well that week. At PGA last year, one

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Speaker 2: year later, boom Quayle Hollow and Charlot he goes and

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Speaker 2: wins the thing. Yeah, he looks pretty dominant doing it.

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Speaker 2: In President John Rahm helped out, especially finishing bogie double

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Speaker 2: double yike, That's how he finished. So he kind of

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Speaker 2: got himself in position but couldn't finish it, and Scotty

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Speaker 2: Scheffler ends up doing it. So I don't know, man,

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Speaker 2: I'd like to think we're watching greatness, But when you

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Speaker 2: bring up David Duvaughne, you bring up Jordan Speed, it

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Speaker 2: just makes you think, Man, that game in particular, it

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Speaker 2: can change in a hurry.

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Speaker 1: And let's tap the brakes on Tiger and all that.

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Speaker 1: He's the next hang on on Tiger Woods. Okay, And

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Speaker 1: it's gonna take a lot for somebody to match that

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Speaker 1: kind of performance early on, the first few years, the

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Speaker 1: first ten years, forget it. It's not gonna happen in

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Speaker 1: all likelihood. But enjoy the sport for what it is.

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Speaker 1: And speaking of sports, Saturday at the Bubble Girls Flag

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Speaker 1: Football champions Yeah, great to see everybody out there. As

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Speaker 1: EA's was out there, Darryl Taylor was out there, Taylor

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Speaker 1: was out there, some ledgen Peter Kallumbi was out there.

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Speaker 1: The contrast of legends. Peter Kallumbi, former Texans linebacker. I

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Speaker 1: love PK. He was great and Jimmy Herndon was out there,

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Speaker 1: who started game one of Texans history at tackle. And

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Speaker 1: Jimmy is a tall man. I think he's six' eight or,

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Speaker 1: something but he's lost the. Weight he's lost the. Weight

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Speaker 1: looks like he's a former basketball, player not a former football.

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Speaker 1: Player great, Dude just great to see those guys out

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Speaker 1: there among others of, course and and wonderful action with

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Speaker 1: the girls flag football. Championships hannah McNair out. There this

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Speaker 1: is a wonderful cause for The texans. Tonight, also season

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Speaker 1: ticket members stated The texans. Event i'll be out there

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Speaker 1: in a few moments in the bowl doing my. Thing,

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Speaker 1: well it's not my. Thing Nick cassario out, There Demiko

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Speaker 1: ryan's out, there really looking forward to being the.

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Speaker 2: Port, okay what one question do you want to? Know,

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Speaker 2: absolutely unequivocally got to know.

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Speaker 1: IT i hope somebody asked them about the, facility Because

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Speaker 1: i'm not going to do. It, well this Is. JOHNNY

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Speaker 1: i just set them.

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Speaker 2: Up, well now when you're talking about the, facility this

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Speaker 2: is where it gets. Confusing is my wife asked me

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Speaker 2: that AND i was, like, well are you talking about

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Speaker 2: the facility where we?

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Speaker 1: Live are you talking about energy? Stadium or boat or.

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Speaker 2: All it was, like it's it's not gotten, confusing it's

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Speaker 2: just they're they're kind of two separate discussions on, THEM i.

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Speaker 1: Think no matter what, though and you AND i haven't

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Speaker 1: discussed this on the, air, right but they've been out

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Speaker 1: there with. It the McNair's that no matter, what they

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Speaker 1: want to practice facility a home base apart from the

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Speaker 1: stadium right wherever it, is however it, is it's apart

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Speaker 1: from the stadium because being in the, stadium we talk

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Speaker 1: about all the cool, stuff you, know the rolling stones practicing,

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Speaker 1: here all the little things that happen along the way

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Speaker 1: that are really, interesting AND i love to share them

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Speaker 1: on the air because it's cool to work here for that,

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Speaker 1: now it's cool for, us for the players and the football.

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Speaker 1: Operations sometimes it gets to be a bit clunky because

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Speaker 1: it's one building that's used for so many different, things

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Speaker 1: and it has to be because it's a state that

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Speaker 1: needs to be used for the rodeo and these other,

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Speaker 1: events and it's got to generate revenue and all of.

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Speaker 1: That everybody understands this public funds went into a lot

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Speaker 1: of this rental car attacks all the other, stuff so

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Speaker 1: you have to keep the building, working, however makes it

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Speaker 1: difficult in the football. World. Sometimes even though The texans

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Speaker 1: rate very high in THESE nflpa, surveys they have wonderful

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Speaker 1: rooms within the, building but being in the building sometimes

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Speaker 1: does get clunky with all the different events and things going.

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Speaker 1: On SO i think they want their own. SPACE i

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Speaker 1: know they want their own. Space they've been public about,

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Speaker 1: that and they could do a lot with that, space

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Speaker 1: and it'll be very exciting once we have some formalized. Plans,

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Speaker 1: okay we have been to different.

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Speaker 2: Places does in your, mind does the vision is it

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Speaker 2: seemingly like The star in a sense that when you

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Speaker 2: go to The.

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Speaker 1: Star Title town's another one In Green.

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Speaker 2: Bay i've talked about this WHEN i was In when

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Speaker 2: we were In Green bay for the, GAME i went

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Speaker 2: and had a big family outing BECAUSE i was there

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Speaker 2: and got a number OF famis members. Together and SO

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Speaker 2: i was driving back To appleton to our, hotel AND

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Speaker 2: i was talking to my cousin and she said that

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Speaker 2: was going Over titletown Like Title town was just where

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Speaker 2: you went to just.

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Speaker 1: Go hang out like a. Mall, yeah it was like

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Speaker 1: a monthstead of a, mall it's like hang out?

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Speaker 2: Titletown Is is that what you think we might end up?

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Speaker 2: Doing having a practice facility that becomes kind of a

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Speaker 2: as of Hear Mike tolman, Say president Of, texans a

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Speaker 2: district kind of an entertainment district in the, sense and

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Speaker 2: it's just The texans are one of the biggest opportunities

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Speaker 1: District is that is that it sounds like that's what they?

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Speaker 1: Want is that where we're? GOING i, believe so something

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Speaker 1: like that to give people an, example and some of

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Speaker 1: the listeners might have seen The, star others have. Not

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Speaker 1: But dallas practice is. There there's a, hotel there's, retail

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Speaker 1: there's a health, club and sometimes the cowboys actually use

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Speaker 1: the health club to work. Out it's. Weird they have

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Speaker 1: their own facility as well to work out, obviously but

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Speaker 1: club AND i forget, why but it. Happens and then

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Speaker 1: you have this field where it's the public. Field it's

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Speaker 2: Field it's kind of right out in front of the

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Speaker 2: building where The FRISCO issd schools play their games or

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Speaker 1: Games, yeah, well that and The, cowboys and it's where

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Speaker 1: They're cowboys indoor is they have a mini stadium in. There,

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Speaker 1: Yeah AND i don't know if that's what The texans

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Speaker 1: will end up. HAVING i don't think there's anything. Finalized of,

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Speaker 1: wind and to be. Planned but that would be. Cool

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Speaker 1: now the field outside by the, restaurants you, know you

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Speaker 1: can have flag football kids games out there with The,

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Speaker 1: cowboys AND i think The texans have some really interesting

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Speaker 1: plans that, way, IDEAS i should. Say and AGAIN i

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Speaker 1: don't know if anything's drawn up, schematically but this is

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Speaker 1: going to be very cool to see it. Evolve and

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Speaker 1: evolve is the right word because exactly whatever it turns

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Speaker 1: into is you, know they have a lot of things

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Speaker 1: actually turns out to, be but it'll be. Exciting this

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Speaker 1: will be unprecedented in the city Of houston to have

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Speaker 1: something like this. Constructed, this to me is what makes

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Speaker 2: COOL i Remember hannah McNair, said, look we've just we've

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Speaker 2: outgrown the, space AND i think that is absolutely. TRUE i,

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Speaker 2: mean we have and you said, it it's the evolution

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Speaker 2: of the. Franchise it's the next step in the, franchise, Like,

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Speaker 2: okay this is what we want to.

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Speaker 1: Be able to put. Together there are certain teams that have.

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Speaker 2: It you see teams that are building stadiums now that

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Speaker 2: are making sure that they have something like. That there's

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Speaker 2: a congregation, space there's kind of an entertainment aspect that

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Speaker 2: goes with. It so it's not just, well that's where

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Speaker 2: we play football. Games it's more than. That it Is

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Speaker 2: i'm going on A tuesday afternoon to go get A

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Speaker 2: hogi down At Phil subs and it just happens to

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Speaker 2: be down by the stadium area whatever the.

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Speaker 1: Case that would be cool by the, stadium but by

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Speaker 1: the practice. Facility what could you have? There that's the.

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Speaker 1: THING i, mean your your imagination can kind of run.

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Speaker 1: Wild so and where it will, be how it will be,

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Speaker 1: again there's nothing there. Interesting, YEAH i, mean there are

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Speaker 1: a lot of possibilities there. Too And i'm sure everybody's

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Speaker 1: got to. VOTE i want to build it in The.

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Speaker 1: Woodlands See Charlie cassley here that that was.

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Speaker 2: A biggots built in The. Woodlands yours truly is not

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Speaker 2: going to, BE i doubt. It but that's kind of

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Speaker 1: Legend but it might be true That casually wanted to

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Speaker 1: build the First texans facility in The, woodlands not the,

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Speaker 1: don't know if that is going to. Happen it's great

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Speaker 1: it's brought up, there but it's another, city it's another.

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Speaker 1: KNOW i know where there's other in. HEMISPHERE i know where.

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Speaker 2: THERE i know where there's some space in seven seven

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Speaker 2: five five. FOUR i know that that would be. Interesting

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Speaker 2: come on down and come on down to G. Town, Maybe,

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Speaker 2: oh go on down To, galton let's do it down.

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Speaker 2: THERE i don't know about. That, YEAH i don't know

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Speaker 2: that's gonna. HAPPEN i don't think it's gonna. Happen but that's,

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Speaker 2: okay man can dream practice. Facility water just Kdding. Galveston

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Speaker 2: BUT i, thought WHAT i just love About. Houston there's

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Speaker 2: be Like Richmond rosenberg it's grown immensely down in that.

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Speaker 2: Area it could be up in The cypress. Area it

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Speaker 2: KNOW i don't, know whatever you could do Down Kirby.

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Speaker 1: JO i don't. Know it could be a lot of different,

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Speaker 1: THOUGHT i read that there's a huge town center type

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Speaker 1: up are like a billion dollars is going into. That,

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Speaker 1: yeah could, Be BUT i think around, here somewhere by around,

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Speaker 1: over the, Years, johnny that would be. Good but then

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Speaker 1: that's something gets developed, there that'd be. Good something gets developed,

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Speaker 1: there you, know Smart Financial center where that is right

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Speaker 1: nine well it's kind of fifty nine And, university all,

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Speaker 1: right it's a little north of. There that's that was

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Speaker 1: there's a big bit of construction U age downtown not

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Speaker 1: a lot of things to. Consider, again the, buildings the

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Speaker 1: rooms within this building are, Outstanding Like hannah McNair, said

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Speaker 1: outgrow the. Space they need to continue to expand and

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Speaker 1: evolve to be state of the art for the players

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Speaker 1: so they can do this job best to their. Ability.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Absolutely i'm excited to see where it all goes

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Speaker 2: and literally and figuratively like where does it? Go does

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Speaker 2: really interesting from that. Aspect, okay are we ready For Who's?

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Speaker 2: Better you said to me when you walked. In you're, like,

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Speaker 2: HEY i Got who's?

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Speaker 1: BETTER i got some stuff, Here And i'm, like, okay, now.

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Speaker 2: These are better questions that you fire at me and

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Speaker 2: you put me on a, spot and THEN i get

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Speaker 2: challenged by people later on saying you were.

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Speaker 1: Wrong i'm, like it's an, opinion. Bro Uh so here we. Go,

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Speaker 1: okay we're gonna start in no particular order. Here tougher, Game,

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Speaker 1: okay this is a who's better type. Question tougher Game

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Speaker 1: cardinals at home Or raiders at? Home, now stay with.

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Speaker 1: Me cardinals coming off back to back losing seasons Under

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Speaker 1: Jonathan gannon With Kyler. Murray, Right murray got back what

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Speaker 1: midway ish through twenty twenty. Three he's been out there.

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Speaker 1: Since raiders At home would Feature Pete Carolyn Gino. Smith

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Speaker 1: the last time that band got, together they were winning In. Seattle,

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Speaker 1: okay they bounced back from a losing. Season Russell wilson's

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Speaker 1: last year to win With Gino. Smith now that was

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Speaker 1: nine and. Eight so let's not lose our minds. Here

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Speaker 1: BUT i got a feeling In, Vegas Pete Carolyn Gino

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Speaker 1: smith can do some. Things they'll certainly be better than

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Speaker 1: they were and that could be a tough game as.

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Speaker 1: Well tougher game at Home cardinals Or raiders this Year cardinals,

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Speaker 1: okay AND i think well for a couple of.

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Speaker 2: Reasons number, ONE i think With gino, Added tashed And

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Speaker 2: Genty rash And genty added The, GINO i should Say brock.

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Speaker 2: Powers With Brock bowers arguably one of the top three

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Speaker 2: tight ends in the league already going to second, YEAR

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Speaker 2: i think offensively The raiders are going to be a

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Speaker 2: little bit better WHERE i don't think The raiders are

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Speaker 2: quite there. YET i don't think, Defensively Max Crosby Christian

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Speaker 2: wilkins up, front it's kind of like The rams in the,

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Speaker 2: sense if you can get those two guys, BLOCKED i

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Speaker 2: think you've got a good chance to move the football against.

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Speaker 2: Him OK i think The cardinals re Signing Klais campbell

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Speaker 2: helps them up, front. Though Darius, robinson who's a first

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Speaker 2: round pick a couple of years, ago who was one

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Speaker 2: of the players obtained in The Will anderson trade by The.

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Speaker 2: Cardinals they drafted. Him he's kind of an inside outside.

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Speaker 2: Guy he wasn't healthy last. Year he's.

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Speaker 1: Healthy what they do is Saving.

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Speaker 2: Collins Buddha baker at safety does anything and, everything and

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Speaker 2: they defensively do some quirky stuff a little different than you're.

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Speaker 1: Normally used to.

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Speaker 2: Seeing and the last, time if you remember, correctly last

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Speaker 2: time we played The, CARDINALS Cj stroud through three. Interceptions

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Speaker 2: so this is a much more talented defense than the

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Speaker 2: one he faced a couple of years.

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Speaker 1: Ago, now Obviously CJ's going into your.

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Speaker 2: Three he's now seen some things and lived some life

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Speaker 2: in this, league SO i don't think there's gonna be

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Speaker 2: putting like, Whoa i've never seen, that or just so,

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Speaker 2: Williams Garet williams is one of the better nickels in the.

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Speaker 2: League trey mcbrides me very difficult to stop at tight.

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Speaker 2: End they both are bringing stud tight, Ends so we

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Speaker 2: better get our act together and covering tight ends because

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Speaker 2: we have not covered tight ends very. Well But i'm

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Speaker 2: gonna Say cardinals because MY x factor is that little.

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Speaker 1: Guy running around making life.

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Speaker 2: Miserable and he didn't do that when we saw him

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Speaker 2: in twenty three because he WAS i think either his

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Speaker 2: first game back or a second game, back he wasn't in.

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Speaker 2: Shape now he runs around a little, bit makes a few,

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Speaker 2: players or defense gets a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Tired now he makes a few more.

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Speaker 2: Throws now you're on your, heels and that's not where

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Speaker 2: you want to be in a set.

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Speaker 1: Offense by the time you get both franchises coming into this,

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Speaker 1: building the narratives will be well established for twenty twenty,

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Speaker 1: five soll know a whole lot more. Later i'm Saying

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Speaker 1: cardinals tougher. Matchup that's why you. Know we went over

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Speaker 1: the lines of the games on the schedule last, week

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Speaker 1: AND i Heard Sean pendergast And Seth payin this morning

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Speaker 1: talking about the lines and those lines to change week the,

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Speaker 1: week of, course based on how teams are. Doing, duh

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Speaker 1: BUT i just thought i'd bring that. Up, okay this

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Speaker 1: have to remember how you Had Caleb williams rated as

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Speaker 1: a prospect coming out of, college not the way he

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Speaker 1: is now going out of. College and then tell me

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Speaker 1: coming out of, college which could be this year or next.

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Speaker 1: Year better prospect coming out of College Caleb williams Or

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Speaker 1: Arch manning better prospect coming out of college because everyone

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Speaker 1: already Is manning pencil penciled? In is the number one

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Speaker 1: overall pick next, year even though who knows if he's

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Speaker 1: coming out and also who knows if he's going to

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Speaker 1: be that. Great, yeah he's taken, snaps he's, played he's started. Games,

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Speaker 1: hey he's looked. Good but is he? That is he?

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Speaker 1: Him we don't. Know he's got the last, name he's

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Speaker 1: got the, pedigree but you got to do it on the.

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Speaker 1: Field so better prospect coming Out manning Or.

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Speaker 2: William well If arch's last name was Vander, mere, yeah,

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Speaker 2: no no, offence but he would be a huge question

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Speaker 2: mark for The university Of. Texas, sure but because his

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Speaker 2: last name Is, manning everybody, thinks, well he's the number

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Speaker 2: one pick in the twenty twenty SIX nfl draft. Class

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Speaker 2: now there have been people using their brains and, saying,

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Speaker 2: well look What peyton.

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Speaker 1: Did look How archie managed that.

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Speaker 2: Process he went back To, Tennessee eli played all his

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Speaker 2: years At Old miss then was the number one. PICK

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Speaker 2: i think this is gonna Be that's you bring up

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Speaker 2: the biggest question to, me and that is we don't

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Speaker 2: know What arch? Is, yeah what is what is? Arch

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Speaker 2: because he would come into game on third or fourth.

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Speaker 2: Down they would run him on quarterback, draws quarterback, sweeps quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Power it was. Fun you could see his athleticism when he.

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Speaker 2: Runs but he's only thrown a ball ninety three times

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Speaker 2: and he you, know threw against no offense TO utsa

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Speaker 2: or those.

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Speaker 1: Schools but he just.

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Speaker 2: Hasn't thrown the ball Against georgia Or florida, much if at.

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Speaker 1: All so they brought him in in The georgia game

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Speaker 1: and it did not go, well and they took him right.

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Speaker 2: Back that's, Right and so we don't. Know we just

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Speaker 2: don't know at this point what he's gonna. BE i, think,

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Speaker 2: well you project he's a, man and you Project i'm, like,

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Speaker 2: yeah but it doesn't always.

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Speaker 1: Work he's Not peyton's, Son He's cooper's.

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Speaker 2: SON A cooper was highly, athletic But cooper was a wide,

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Speaker 2: receiver and SO i JUST i hesitate with. That that's

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Speaker 2: gonna be a really tough one to kind of, do

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Speaker 2: especially this, summer because he's only got a few amount of,

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Speaker 2: throws but he doesn't have a lot of those throws

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Speaker 2: against the best Teams he's gonna. Play Kayleb williams stepped

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Speaker 2: into the game Against texas as a true freshman and

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Speaker 2: turned the game completely and totally.

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Speaker 1: Around with just sheer.

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Speaker 2: TALENT i don't even know if you knew the, offense

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Speaker 2: but he made throws in that game where you went

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Speaker 2: what he made it throw in that game Against texas

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Speaker 2: down the sideline To Marvin. Mims mims makes one of

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Speaker 2: the best Catches i've ever, seen and you're, like he's

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Speaker 2: all the way to his, right throws back across his,

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Speaker 2: body like fifty five yards downfield and drops on a

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Speaker 2: dime The mims and you're, like that's. Different that is ridiculously.

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Speaker 2: Good so at this, POINT i would, Say, CALEB i

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Speaker 2: just don't know What arch is gonna, be AND i

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Speaker 2: don't know If arch is gonna end up being in

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Speaker 2: this draft at. All SO i think this is kind

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Speaker 2: of the evaluation year Of arch and, Go, okay he

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Speaker 2: can be this, guy or oh he's really not what

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Speaker 2: a lot of people wanted to be because his name Is.

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Speaker 2: Manning the guy's got a lot of. PRESSURE i will,

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Speaker 2: say it seems it seems like he handles the pressure pretty.

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Speaker 1: Well he's pretty.

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00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,040
Speaker 2: Poised it doesn't bother, him it doesn't rattle, Him AND

429
00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,000
Speaker 2: i think that's gonna pay off in a long, run

430
00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,719
Speaker 2: and he'll get his he'll get going. Early but he's

431
00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,280
Speaker 2: got to face that O Higo state defense early and

432
00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,760
Speaker 2: that will be the major. Test that is when the

433
00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:53,119
Speaker 2: hype will go one way or the.

434
00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,119
Speaker 1: Other oh, yeah he does well against that. Team oh,

435
00:20:56,200 --> 00:21:00,240
Speaker 1: my it's it's on at that. Point. Crazy, okay let's do.

436
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:08,240
Speaker 1: More who's better type? Stuff more underappreciated Franchise. Seattle these

437
00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:12,080
Speaker 1: are Both texans opponents this, Year seattle Or Tampa. Bay

438
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:18,600
Speaker 1: Now seattle has what Three Super bowl appearances at victory

439
00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:25,119
Speaker 1: and remember they went With. Hasselbeck Tampa bay two time

440
00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:29,960
Speaker 1: Super bowl, winner once With John gruden And Brad johnson

441
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 1: and then much later on With Tom. Brady So Tampa

442
00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,879
Speaker 1: bay and Lately Tampa bay make it some noise With Baker.

443
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,879
Speaker 1: Mayfield seattle over the. Years you, know they get forgotten

444
00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:44,200
Speaker 1: sometimes in The Pacific, northwest but they've had a nice.

445
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,480
Speaker 1: Run you look At Russell wilson's seasons With. Seattle really

446
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,679
Speaker 1: it's playoff after playoff after, playoff and again you go

447
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,399
Speaker 1: to the Super, bowl you win. It you go to

448
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,639
Speaker 1: The Super. Bowl all, right you throw the pick To Malcolm,

449
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:58,160
Speaker 1: butler but man they got there and they win a

450
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,679
Speaker 1: lot Under Pete carroll and they were winning Under Mike

451
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,560
Speaker 1: Home room With Matt. Hasselbeck now you go back, Deeper Dave,

452
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,439
Speaker 1: Craig Kurt, warner the running, Back Kurt. Warner, look they

453
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 1: had some nice moments back then as an expansion. Franchise

454
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,240
Speaker 1: in the, Seventies Tampa bay was also an expansion. Franchise

455
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 1: these are two expansion franchises from the, Seventies john McKay

456
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,399
Speaker 1: and The. Bucks early, On Doug, williams they had some playoff, appearances,

457
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,600
Speaker 1: okay but then they went dormant Until Tony dungee got.

458
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 1: There pewter, helmets all that. Stuff, yeah and they win

459
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 1: The Super bowl With gruden with a lot Of dungee

460
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 1: guys and. Everything so you tell me more underappreciated, Franchise

461
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 1: seattle Or Tampa. Bay this is a hell of a.

462
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 1: Question you were going through.

463
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,360
Speaker 2: It i'm kind of literally going back for, like, well

464
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,920
Speaker 2: you Know, Seattle oh, no, no It's Tampa. Bay, look, man

465
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 2: because they both come in the same. Year one goes

466
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 2: to THE. Afc that's what a lot of people. Forget

467
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 2: one GOES afc. Initially, yeah, yeah That, Seattle tampa goes

468
00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 2: to THE, nfc Then seattle stays over in THE afc

469
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,399
Speaker 2: for a, while AND i but believe it. Was was

470
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,360
Speaker 2: it when The texans came into two thousand and two

471
00:22:58,520 --> 00:22:59,679
Speaker 2: they moved over maybeen.

472
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 1: Earlier i'm trying TO i think that's.

473
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,120
Speaker 2: It trying to, remember but that was the last TIME

474
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 2: i remember some movement in the in the.

475
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 1: Franchises they were in THE Afc west With denver and

476
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 1: The raiders had charger knock down.

477
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 2: Dragouts with those teams like, those that was a, great great.

478
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 1: Rivalry Robert zorn at, first Then Dave, craig and they were.

479
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 1: Hot it was a good. Team it was tough to

480
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 1: play in The. Kingdome knocks that police got.

481
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,160
Speaker 2: LOUD i Saw monday. NIGHT i Saw monday night game

482
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:32,880
Speaker 2: there In december of ninety Four Raiders Raiders, seahawks AND

483
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 2: i was up into, nosebleeds and, man was it.

484
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 1: Loud that's all the whole legend Of seattle being loud was.

485
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 1: That and you dub as. Well you dubbed very. Loud

486
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 1: the way that other stadium they had was constructed with the,

487
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 1: overhangs AND i guess because it rains a LOUD i

488
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 1: don't know if That serban myth or, not but they

489
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 1: Were loud as, well SO i don't know that what

490
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:55,639
Speaker 1: it is about that part of the country.

491
00:23:55,760 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 2: LOUD i Think i'm gonna Say seattle as more underrated

492
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 2: Because Tampa. BAY i think people look At Tampa bay

493
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 2: AND i think maybe because of The Super bowl they

494
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 2: had With, gruden but then coming back and winning A

495
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 2: Super Bowl brady like he won multiple. CHAMPIONSHIPS i think

496
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 2: THAT'S i think that speaks you, know people, Like, Okay Tampa.

497
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 1: BAY i get That seattle's had, won but.

498
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 2: They, went like you, said three times they lost in

499
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 2: the hassleback. YEAR i feel Like seattle's done, it maybe

500
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,639
Speaker 2: at a. High Maybe seattle's been at a, seven seven

501
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 2: and a half for. Longer Maybe Tampa bay has been

502
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 2: like a two to, three but then a nine and

503
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 2: then back to a two or. Three SO i BUT

504
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:44,880
Speaker 2: i think people seemingly respect The bucks more than Maybe.

505
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 1: Seattle and maybe that's. GEOGRAPHY i think you might be.

506
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 2: RIGHT i think that's just kind Of northwest areas just

507
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 2: forgotten about more often than it should. Be it's the

508
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 2: longest trip for everybody in the league to, take and

509
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 2: yet they've been so, good The carrol, era The homegrown,

510
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 2: era The Chuck knox. Era they've had good eras In,

511
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 2: seattle BUT i just don't know that they get the

512
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 2: hype that maybe they deserve given the success that they've.

513
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 1: Had it goes to show you in this, SPORT i

514
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,639
Speaker 1: think in all, sports you've got to win a ton

515
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 1: to get on the level of the huge market. Team

516
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,360
Speaker 1: that's FOR La, Chicago New, york like The patriots were

517
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 1: able to do it because they won so much that

518
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 1: they Turned New england into this brand name that they

519
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 1: were not. BEFORE i, mean there's no, way And i'll

520
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,679
Speaker 1: give you THE nba, example when The spurs had it

521
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 1: going on With duncan The Big, three they were still

522
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 1: everyone respected them and you had to and they won

523
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,199
Speaker 1: multiple championships and all of, that but it was still, like,

524
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: Right San, antonio now you've basketball, wise, feared, slash respected,

525
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 1: them but they still didn't pop right the way it

526
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 1: would be in a major. Market it's so hard to overcome.

527
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 2: That when you talked about great teams in the HISTING,

528
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,159
Speaker 2: nba very rarely did you think of at the time

529
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 2: A spurs. Team you, know and you should when you're

530
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 2: reminded of, Them you're, like oh, YEAH i Think seattle's

531
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 2: kind of like that when you remind people Of, hey

532
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,400
Speaker 2: who are some of the greatest defenses and Our Ravens,

533
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 2: bears et. Cetera, hey what about Those legion And boom

534
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 2: defenses And, Seattle oh, YEAH i forgot about. THAT i

535
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 2: think that tends to happen with a lot of people

536
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 2: about The, Spurs like you forget about.

537
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 1: Man that was a real.

538
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 2: Man that was a dynasty that went on for a

539
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 2: lot longer than people want to, imagine from ninety nine

540
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 2: to twenty. Fourteen in, particular like. That they didn't just

541
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 2: microwave that. DYNASTY i mean that thing got put in

542
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 2: at three fifty for forty five.

543
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 1: Minutes. Yea AND i don't think that's the. Test you,

544
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 1: know The lakers won their share along the, way and

545
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 1: The celtics had one and all of. That BUT i

546
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 1: think it's.

547
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,120
Speaker 2: The spurs that it's The spurs that get, forgotten AND

548
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,360
Speaker 2: i think It's seattle that gets. FORGOTTEN i think that's

549
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,239
Speaker 2: a good. Question you got a couple, more all, right

550
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 2: hold on to. Them hold on to.

551
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: Those we're gonna have a few of those later in the.

552
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 2: Week so hold on to those right, there because coming up,

553
00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 2: next where does The Miko Ryans ran? Think according To

554
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:05,120
Speaker 2: Greg Rosenthal jpacosta THE Nfl Daily, podcast where does your

555
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 2: Man Damico ryans rank amongst.

556
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: The head coaches in THE?

557
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,400
Speaker 2: NFL i like that, spot there were OTHERS i had

558
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 2: some issue.

559
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 1: With we'll see What mark has to say about a

560
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: next right here In Texas All. Access what's? Happened?

561
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 2: Everybody welcome back to money edition Of Texans All. Access

562
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 2: john And mark with. You.

563
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 1: MARK i a pretty simple. Question what's THAT i teases

564
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 1: coming into this?

565
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 2: Segment if you were to rank all the coaches in THE,

566
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 2: nfl where do you? THINK i would, say where would you?

567
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 2: Ranked Miko? Ryans BUT i won't ask. That, okay where

568
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 2: do you think most people would? Rank doing a list of?

569
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 2: Coaches where would they? Ranked To Miko? Ran such a good.

570
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: TOPIC i could talk for hours about how coaches are. Perceived,

571
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: yes and some coaches papers get graded too high and

572
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 1: some probably too. Low you, know we were talking About

573
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: Jonathan gannon and The cardinals. Earlier, yep is he a

574
00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 1: good coach or? NOT i don't know if we really?

575
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 1: Know oh that are The cardinals overachieving even though they

576
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: haven't had a winning record Under gannon in two. YEARS

577
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 1: i don't think they're, overachieving but are they right where

578
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 1: they should be because they don't have the talent to,

579
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 1: compete you. Know but there's no Way i'm rating him

580
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: higher or even close To Domico, ryans who took a

581
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 1: team that had three victories and won ten and went

582
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 1: to the. PLAYOFFS i know there was a personnel infusion

583
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: here of, talent but there were, rookies a lot of,

584
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: them including the quarterback and the defensive rookie of the.

585
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: Year now outstanding, players outstanding, talent but he got the

586
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 1: most out of. Them that's right that, year and as

587
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: you recall in twenty twenty, three that was no, oh

588
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: we got off to a hot start and rode it

589
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 1: into the finished kind of. Year last year was more

590
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: of that kind of, year, really but we all knew

591
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:45,719
Speaker 1: how tough the schedule was going to. BE i think

592
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: he's done a remarkable. JOB i think he's no lower

593
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: than a top ten Coach Johnny okay in this. LEAGUE

594
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: i think that that's where you have to put. Him

595
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 1: he's one of the ten best coaches in THE nfl right.

596
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: Now AND i think this is awesome because he's still getting.

597
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: Better he's still a young coach as far as the career.

598
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 1: Goes he's second, YEAR i mean third, year two years

599
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: in a third year going into that as a head.

600
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: Coach and we all know the longer you're a head,

601
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: coach the more you should, learn especially a guy like

602
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: that who will learn more because he works so. Hard

603
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: how about number, nine that's? Good, Okay Greg rosenthal AND Jp.

604
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 2: Acosta they do a podcast CALLED Nfl, daily and they

605
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 2: did a essentially a Coaches, draft but essentially it's a

606
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 2: ranking of the coaches in THE. Nfl, Okay Jamiko ryans number.

607
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 2: Nine they have three. Columns now they're only they're twenty

608
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 2: seven coaches listed and now at the bottom and have

609
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 2: an asterisk that says first time head coaches not eligible to.

610
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: Draft like, OKAY i understand. That so they.

611
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 2: Didn't they didn't put in Here Pete, carroll they didn't

612
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 2: put In.

613
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: Liam. Cohen they wouldn't Put Pete carrolyn even though he

614
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: has a long track. Record, right that's the rules they

615
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: WENT i was just telling the rules they went.

616
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 2: With so there were twenty, seven so there's three columns

617
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 2: by twenty seven by three there's nine the bottom of

618
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 2: the first. Column there he, Is because at FIRST i

619
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 2: didn't see him on, here AND i started to get

620
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 2: a little bit.

621
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: Perturbed, Yes i'm like, you, oh there he, is number.

622
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: NINE i think that sounds fair until like here at. Eight,

623
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: okay so let me hear. This you heard of a

624
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: man Named Matt. Lafleur, yes of, course matts number. EIGHT

625
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: i think that's. Okay you, Know matt is one of

626
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: the best coaches in this. League look what he's. Done,

627
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 1: yeah you. Know he obviously did it With Aaron rodgers

628
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: and TWO nfc. CHAMPIONS i do With Jordan, love and

629
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: now he's doing it With Jordan. LOVE i know they

630
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 1: didn't win a playoff, game but it was a rough

631
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: year and they got through. It they made the playoffs

632
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 1: and it's a very tough, division and good for.

633
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 2: HIM i take it, back they did break they did

634
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 2: Rank Pete. CARROLL i take that, back And i'll get

635
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 2: to him in a. Second BUT i think the eight

636
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 2: that are in front of. Him AS i looked at this,

637
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 2: LIST i, went, YEAH i don't know THAT i CAN

638
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 2: i can really quibble with anybody right that's in front of.

639
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: Him number One Andy reid, yeah no. Surprise number Two sean,

640
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: McVay sean, Mcvain sean mcvayh number. Two number, three get

641
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: you need caps, Ready Dan campbell.

642
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 2: Okay number four gets a lot of run as the

643
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 2: best coaching this.

644
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: League kevin, O'Connell you have to win a playoff. Game number.

645
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 2: Five Kyle shanahan falling probably a little bit because of

646
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 2: what happened last. Year number, Six John, harball number, Seven Sean,

647
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 2: payton number, Eight Matt, lafleur number, Nine Demika, Ryants who's?

648
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: Ten Mike? Tomlin, okay, So demiko is ready ahead of

649
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: Tom so.

650
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 2: He's ready to ahead Of tomlin and right Behind. Tomlin

651
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 2: here here the guy's rated right Behind. Tomlin, Eleven Jim harbaugh,

652
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 2: Twelve sean, McDermott number, Thirteen Pete Carroll.

653
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: Boy McDermott is getting disrespected. Here dermott should be a lot.

654
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: Higher number. FOUR i.

655
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 2: SEE i Think sean McDermott is completely. UNDERRATED i think

656
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 2: people gloss over.

657
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: Him he built that whole. Program And i've talked To

658
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: i've talked To sal about.

659
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 2: This we've talked To, capaccio solient reporter for the, bills

660
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 2: And sal will Admit he's, like you, Know i'm. Biased he's,

661
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 2: like BUT i just Think sean doesn't get that. Credit

662
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 2: AND i agree with him. WHOLEHEARTEDLY i don't Think sean

663
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 2: gets the credit for what they've. DONE i Think shosh

664
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 2: gets a lot of the. Credit you know, that the,

665
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 2: bills The bill's, mafia all kind of. STUFF i think

666
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,959
Speaker 2: they kind of feel, Like, Ah sean just a. CARETAKER

667
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 2: i Think sean mcdermot's are really.

668
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: Good you tell me what Makes kevin O'Connell so much

669
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: better Than sean, McDermott And i'm gonna answer it for. You. Nothing.

670
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: Nothing in, Fact take O'Connell and put him where McDermott.

671
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: Is take, McDermott put him where O'Connell, is if not. Higher,

672
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: yeah And Dan campbell, Great, okay a great job so.

673
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: Far but let's see how you retool this thing through

674
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: the loss of your. Quarter that's a big. One but

675
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: dermott has done multiple. Time that's exactly multiple.

676
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 2: Times AND i think with O'Connell it's because it was.

677
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 2: Done he's more an offensive, guy WHEREAS i think with

678
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 2: McDermott or the defensive.

679
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: Guy Josh allen kind of carries, him they get more

680
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: Love johnny And tom At ten as A Super bowl

681
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: winner IN ko thousand and. EIGHT i know it's been

682
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: a long, time been a long time SINCE i rock and,

683
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: roll As Robert plants, say, yes but there's still something about.

684
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: Him there's still something about why other coaches gravitate Toward.

685
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: Tomlin and if you said what coach would you like

686
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: to visit and see how he does things to the other,

687
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: Coaches tomlin would be top.

688
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 2: THREE i see. IT i see It Front Centers Senior

689
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 2: bowl every. Year he is the mayor Of mobile for

690
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 2: those two or three days he's.

691
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: There it's.

692
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 2: Unbelievable scouts, players they all go over to. Him and

693
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 2: WHEN i heard, HIM i heard him on a podcast

694
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 2: With Peter schrager And sean, McVay AND i was, like

695
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 2: this guy's, Incredible but you see him on hard.

696
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: Knocks they JUST i think The steelers think there are

697
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: a lot of people, think, well Ain't anyoneder? Achieved they

698
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: really haven't gotten to that.

699
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 2: Level they got this incredible, defense but of they just

700
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 2: can't get it together to get over the. Top when's

701
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 2: the last time The steelers Played when's the last time

702
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 2: The steeers played a really important football?

703
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: Game how Was kevin O'Connell rated higher Than Mike TOM

704
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,240
Speaker 1: i agree with. THAT i agree with. That where's O'Connell?

705
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: Again i'm coming to O'Connell four for? What for?

706
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 2: What?

707
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: Johnny he won fourteen games all his playoff? WINS i mean,

708
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: none okay? None NOW i get. It it's tough because

709
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: they lost the, division they had to go on the. Road, okay.

710
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 1: Boohoo and you lost to The rams In. Arizona what

711
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: about when they Had Kirk cousins and they're Playing Brian

712
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 1: dabole who's probably ranked twenty something on this list and

713
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: The New York giants in his? Building oh, boy you

714
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: wonder where a dable? Is? Where holy cow in the

715
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 1: twenties twenty? Five, yeah and he beat you two years?

716
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: Ago was it? It two years? Ago years? Ago in your

717
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: building and you're rated. Fourth that is, inflation my. Friend.

718
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 2: Yeah you want to know a guy who gets credit at? All,

719
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 2: NO nac, no who who won A Super?

720
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: Bowl? Lusher, Oh siriani and he just got. Extended he's

721
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 1: not in the top, ten he's. Fifteen he's number. Fifteen

722
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,479
Speaker 1: it's not. Fair that's not. FAIR i mean the guy

723
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: that's not. Fair, yeah one team to a Super.

724
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 2: Bowl and, look the twenty four twenty three season was a.

725
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:27,399
Speaker 2: Disaster it did not go. Well he's a young, coach he's,

726
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 2: fired he's a grass. Whatever it did not go well

727
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 2: in Twenty but in two out of the three years

728
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 2: he's had his team in The Super bowl and won a,

729
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 2: championship and, nobody, nobody nobody wants to give him.

730
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: Credit who's fourteenth Dan? Quinn? Okay what dan? Quin? Alright?

731
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,720
Speaker 1: Five really what Dan quinn's been to A Super? Bowl

732
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: he just went to AN nfc championship. GAME i think

733
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: we probably underrated Dan quinn as a head. Coach, YEAH

734
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 1: i think so.

735
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 2: TOO i, agree good, TALENTED i, AGREE i Think dan's

736
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 2: a better. Coaching people Give hi. Credit, fourteen, thirteen thirteen

737
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 2: Is Peat, Carroll so ten Was, Tomlin eleven Was Hardball

738
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 2: jim twelve With sean, McDermott Thirteen Pete, carroll Fourteen Dan,

739
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 2: quinn Fifteen Nick.

740
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: Sirianni now the next three.

741
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 2: Get kind of interesting BECAUSE i think there are probably these.

742
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 2: Three you might, say you know, WHAT i might take

743
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 2: one or two of those guys that were guys we've. Mentioned,

744
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 2: Okay number Sixteen Kevin stefanski, yep number.

745
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: Seventeen Zach, Taylor, nope not.

746
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 2: Yet, No oh, No mike McDaniel ahead Of Zach, taylor number, Eighteen.

747
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 1: Mike.

748
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 2: Vrabel, Wow, okay so that begs the, question take The

749
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 2: mico out of?

750
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: This?

751
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 2: Yeah how many of these coaches do you take before

752
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 2: you Take Mike?

753
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 1: Rabel how many of the?

754
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,240
Speaker 2: Coaches, wait so there are seventeen coaches head Of, Vrabel

755
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 2: take De mico out of. It how many of these

756
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 2: guys would you Take vrabel over that?

757
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:04,439
Speaker 1: Potlar? Ten at least at least, ten at, least if

758
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: not more? Eighteen Where Zach? Taylor what DID i tell?

759
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:12,959
Speaker 2: You dable was twenty? Five, Yeah Zach taylor twenty? Four

760
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 2: are they? Stupid twenty?

761
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 1: Five they? Stupid first of, all they punished how We

762
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: they Punished sirianni because they figure how he, roseman how

763
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 1: he's doing. Everything it's not the Coach. Taylor they're not

764
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: punishing management For taylor having not enough defensive, personnel not

765
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: enough talent on the offensive. Line yet last year he

766
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: carves out a winning season in what was looking like

767
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 1: a disaster almost the. Playoffs last two years winning, seasons

768
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: lots of problems kept the ship afloat he's actually been

769
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: to A Super. Bowl But kevin, O'Connell who loses in

770
00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 1: the playoffs To Brian dable at, home is. Four what

771
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: kind of list is? This Zach taylor went To.

772
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:09,280
Speaker 2: Super bowl twenty, one nearly knocked off The chiefs again

773
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 2: In arrowhead the next year in THE Nfc Championship.

774
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: Game he's actually beaten The chiefs in THE Afc Championship

775
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: game at their. Place what other coach did? That johnny

776
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: and Quarterback Bill belichick And Tom braids, it that's, it.

777
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 2: That's, it that's. It during His chiefs, run that's. It

778
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 2: he's the only other guy In, Belichick Zach taylor And Joe.

779
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 2: Burrow so let's rank him in the twenties twenty not

780
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:32,720
Speaker 2: just twenty twenty.

781
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 1: Four, jeez, NOW i do think Where's stefanski on this? List? Sixteen,

782
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: Look god Blessed stefanski and all That watson and everything's

783
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: got to deal with. THERE i think he's a good,

784
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 1: coach BUT i get. It you can't reward these back

785
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 1: to back horrible seasons they've. Had, well, no hang, on

786
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,720
Speaker 1: let me rephrase. That twenty twenty three was not a horrible.

787
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: Season they actually resurrected that big. Time that's. Right he

788
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: should get a lot of credit for, that what they

789
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: did With. Flacco they just got their doors blown off

790
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: in the playoffs here In. Houston so, yeah it's just

791
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 1: one season of misery and he, ACTUALLY i, mean they

792
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: weren't really gonna pull it out of the fire with

793
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four And Jamis, winston but they got more

794
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: entertaining When winston was in there for a couple of. Games.

795
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 2: Anyway, yeah So frable eighteen nineteen Is mike McDonald's seattle all.

796
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 1: Right he won ten games on a team that was

797
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: basically a winning. Team, yeah but they went from nine

798
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 1: wins to ten. Wins, yeah they didn't make the. Playoffs,

799
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 1: yeah but he gets no love.

800
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 2: None Todd bowles twenty twenty one Is Jonathan, Gannett.

801
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: Right so, Listen. Bulls that's another good. One, yeah we

802
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: can't give balls any. Credit why can't we give balls any?

803
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: CREDITS i don't know. WHY i can't give them any

804
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: credit to keep making a. Playoff they were gonna die

805
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 1: Without Todd. Brady what have they?

806
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 2: Done they've won a division ever? Since, yes every single year. Since,

807
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 2: yes it's really it's offensive. Coordinators, well you had two

808
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 2: different ones in those. Situations, YEAH i, Know bulls is

809
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:12,359
Speaker 2: not Exactly Mike tomlin in terms of, charisma, right but

810
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 2: but there you, go he's winning. Games there you. GO

811
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 2: a lot of it has to do with. That you're

812
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 2: about to lose your. Mind okay in just a, Second,

813
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 2: okay because what DID i tell? You Zach taylor was twenty? Four,

814
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 2: yeah twenty Two Shane steike AND i THINK i Think

815
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 2: shane's a pretty good. Coach twenty. Three, Yeah Dave canalis

816
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,439
Speaker 2: higher Than Zach.

817
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 1: TAYLOR i, mean what are they what are they looking?

818
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: At how can you come up with? THIS i don't

819
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 1: know how you can do that About Zach. Taylor if, Anything.

820
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 1: Canallas i'm just Saying canallas is bad because he got

821
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 1: them going at the end of the year. Exactly but

822
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 1: he's going to get a higher rating Than zach Freaking

823
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 1: taylor one. Year, Oh Zach, taylor you've been under achievement

824
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: With Joe. Burrow, no you haven't devil at a good.

825
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 2: Team And dable's better than twenty five To dable's a

826
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 2: better football. Coach although the last couple of years have been.

827
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 2: TOUGH i get, That but when he Had Daniel jones

828
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 2: going that first.

829
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: Year that was a. Toll that was a tough we saw.

830
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: It that's a tough team to.

831
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 2: Meet they were not gonna win a, championship but there

832
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 2: were a lot of teams that were gonna lose to.

833
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: Them we might Blame Joe shane for their. Ills maybe. Seven,

834
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: yeah but they're a package deal in a.

835
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 2: Way twenty Six Raheem, Morris falcons and last at number

836
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 2: twenty Seven titans head Coach Brian. Callahan, right LIKE i,

837
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 2: said their first time at, coaches they didn't they didn't

838
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 2: put on. There So Liam cohen not on, there But

839
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,280
Speaker 2: Pete carroll was in there a number, thirteen But Demico

840
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 2: ryans comes in at number. Nine it was it's hard

841
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 2: to look at the aid in front and go, okay,

842
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 2: yeah but then as you kind of go through the

843
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 2: whole list and you're, like wait a, second like you

844
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:44,280
Speaker 2: pointed out with O'Connell and O'Connor's want to buy playoff game.

845
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: For those who just joined. Us one Was Andy.

846
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 2: Reid this is this Is Greg rosenthal AND Jp ACOSTA'S

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Speaker 2: Nfl daily the podcast Their Coaches, draft basically a list

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Speaker 2: ranking of the. Coaches Was Andy reid, One sean McVay,

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Speaker 2: Two Dan campbell, Three kevin O'Connell.

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Speaker 1: Four hold, On sean McVay has won a Super, bowl

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Speaker 1: so you give him credit for. That, yes and he's

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Speaker 1: gone to, another so he deserves to be ranked. High

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Speaker 1: so mcveigh's second third Was, Campbell, okay Resurrected. DETROIT i

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Speaker 1: think THAT'S i think it's a little.

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Speaker 2: High, HONESTLY i don't disagree with. That But detroit. Stunk

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Speaker 2: he did, Stunk yeah for three years before.

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Speaker 1: This detroit was bad, longer but they had This hall

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Speaker 1: Of fame quarterback And Matthew. STAFFORD i mean. Whatever, YEAH

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Speaker 1: i Think Dan campbell's rated a little high on this,

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Speaker 1: list Going gumble, three O'Connell. Four that's absolute. Trash And

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Speaker 1: i'm not saying O'Connell's a bad. COACH i think he's

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Speaker 1: a good. COACH i just don't think he's better than

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Speaker 1: some of the guys we were talking. About shanahan, Five

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Speaker 1: John harboss. Six So shanahan has not won A Super bowl, yet,

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Speaker 1: nothing but he's been to two and how MANY Nfc

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Speaker 1: championship games won, TOO i don't. Know but he's had

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Speaker 1: a lot of, losing not a, lot but he's had

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00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: several losing seasons mixed.

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Speaker 2: In, yeah injuries, hit like last year was a GREAT

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Speaker 2: i mean injuries, hit but then they also kind of

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Speaker 2: just get off.

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Speaker 1: Course, yeah but If Zach taylor was hit with those

873
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Speaker 1: injuries and had the same win, total you're killing.

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Speaker 2: Them, well they already killed. Them they got him twenty.

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00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:16,760
Speaker 2: Four John harbaughs, Six Sean payton seven.

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Speaker 1: Eight those two guys are similar to, Me sean not

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Speaker 1: as people and as coaching.

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Speaker 2: Style what riding is basically writing off of a championship from.

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Speaker 1: Many years, ago many years. Ago harbaugh's was. Twelve they

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Speaker 1: haven't been doing. It what rocket rollers would they? Be

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Speaker 1: that would be a better. Question what rocket rollers would?

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Speaker 1: Be what rock and rollers would they? Be as foreigner

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Speaker 1: without Lou graham on, Vocals, okay you're as cold as.

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Speaker 1: Ice some buy some guy who's got the range to do.

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Speaker 1: It but it's Not Luke grand you know What i'm. Saying, yeah,

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Speaker 1: okay all, RIGHT i GOT i should have been that

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Speaker 1: should have been HOW i buried the lead on this?

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Speaker 1: Thing what classic? Rocker what classic rocker Is Andy? Reid

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Speaker 1: oh my, god he's The Rolling stones Bab Andy reider is,

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Speaker 1: this it's still got still got the key original, members you, know,

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Speaker 1: Yeah jagger And, richard so whatever else you. Have And

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Speaker 1: Ron wood feels like one even though he joined the,

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Speaker 1: band you, know he's still the new.

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Speaker 2: Guy as a complete, Aside, YEAH i watched a complete unknown.

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Speaker 1: L i need to. Watch chalome is stupid, good like

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Speaker 1: SAL i, HEARD i should. Watch he's. INCREDIBLE i need

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Speaker 1: to watch. It you know. WHAT i watched this Weekend

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Speaker 1: jaws with my twelve year old the Original, yeah of, course,

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Speaker 1: really he'd never seen. IT i watched just seen the

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Speaker 1: movie start to finish In. Forever, yeah so it was

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Speaker 1: such a. Treat AND i was watching And i've seen

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Speaker 1: the documentaries about making it and, everything BUT i was

903
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: Watching jaws AND i thought so many Different hitchcock references

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Speaker 1: in moments here By, spielberg you, know like reflections off

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00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: glass and key shots and, things AND i, thought oh,

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00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: man he's just taken so much From hitchcock. PURPOSELY i

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Speaker 1: think it's a tribute To. GUY i get.

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Speaker 2: It, Yeah, Demiko ryan's number, one he makes the top.

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Speaker 1: TEN i like. IT i think it's probably about. Right

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Speaker 1: he wins a.

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00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 2: Championship he needs to go into that top four especially

912
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 2: ahead of the coach From. Minnesota in no question about.

913
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Speaker 2: That now one of these coaches we mentioned got an.

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Speaker 2: Extension that and more news around THE nfl next right

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Speaker 2: here In Texans All. Access welcome back This monday inedittion

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Speaker 2: Of Texans All access From Monday Texans Radio. Studio i'm your,

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00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 2: Host John, harris football, analyst sideline. Reporter let's go round

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Speaker 2: THE nfl and start with the news that we talked

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00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 2: about in the previous. Segment Nick sirianni signs extension to

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00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 2: stay with The Philadelphia egles game probably gonna be the

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00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,320
Speaker 2: number one team going into the league everybody's power, Rankings.

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00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: Syrian he has done a great, job as we talked.

923
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 2: About he's gone to One Super bowl one, another so

924
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 2: he's going to two Super bowls one to.

925
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: One we got.

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00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 2: To the playoffs in twenty, three but then obviously things Turned, yeah.

927
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 1: But siriani gets an. Extension good for.

928
00:45:54,440 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 2: Him another extension being given out Is Fred. Warner nine

929
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 2: Gave brock purtying extension over the. WEEKEND i think Of.

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00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 2: Friday we mentioned that now It's Fred warner's chance to

931
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 2: get some. Cash three, years sixty three million dollars twenty

932
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 2: one million per, season apy fifty six million in guaranteed.

933
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 2: Money and that deal at three years of sixty three

934
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 2: million sounds a lot like the deals that The Texans

935
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 2: Nick cassario is handed out three, years four, years maybe

936
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 2: in some cases two. Years a lot of guaranteed, money

937
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 2: but Neither you, know the team is not beholden to

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Speaker 2: your guy for eight, years six, years three. Years give

939
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 2: us what you. Got you're gonna get allays guaranteed. Money

940
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 2: As seth says That i've listened to him say this

941
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 2: in the. Morning you want guaranteed, money take shorter, deals

942
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 2: and that's What Fred warner has. Done So George kittle

943
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 2: paid this, Offseason Brock purty paid this. Offseason now The

944
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 2: niners And Fred warner getting it done three, years sixty

945
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 2: three million. Dollars so, yeah it pays to be a.

946
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 2: Quarterback but you're the best in the, game you're gonna get,

947
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:05,479
Speaker 2: paid And Fred warner is. That at linebacker Fust, Show

948
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 2: Matthew golden has signed his contract with The, packers a

949
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 2: four year deal fully guaranteed seventeen point six million, dollars

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00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 2: and at this, POINT i believe he's the highest paid

951
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 2: receiver for The Green Bay. Packers so there you, go

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00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 2: the news as it seems fit around THE.

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Speaker 1: Nfl appreciate you being. Here thank you To, mark to

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00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: all of you for.

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00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 2: Listening gonna Have Jonahthain alexander on tomorrow that's always, fun

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00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 2: and the possibility of one of our favorite guests in

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00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 2: one of yours to, tomorrow so you're gonna want.

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00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: To tune in to see who that. Is we'll see you,

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00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,760
Speaker 1: tomorrowybody and as, always Go. Texans