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Speaker 1: see refresh my thoughts about Amari, And so you get

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Speaker 1: and I feel like that that keeps you from being

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Speaker 1: any way missing the first pick. The mare still gets

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Speaker 1: you excited. I mean yes, the more that we've looked

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Speaker 1: we're going to be incorporating both in our practices and

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Speaker 1: broader range of drafts and in our passing game concepts.

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Speaker 1: And uh, so Witten can do some things he hasn't done,

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Speaker 1: wouldn't been a progress stopper for the young guys. And

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Speaker 1: does that impact your decision on the draft? Not at all.

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Speaker 1: It will do that. It won't deter us in any

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Speaker 1: You would take Dak Prescott over people or anybody in

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Speaker 1: he has the mentality and the heart to be a

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00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: wonderful contributor to society, and if he can have some

430
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: of the stature, as a matter of fact, it may

431
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: be a part of what he is working to overcome. Well,

432
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: he can go on and do some wonderful things for

433
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: hundreds and hundreds of other people because of his story

434
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: and the platform that he's got. And so this isn't

435
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: just about winning the game. He just happens to be

436
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: talented enough and happens to have the desire enough that

437
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: he can use this as a platform and maybe when

438
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: he's sitting here, my age have helped all kinds of

439
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: people by doing this. He's made of the right stuff

440
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: to have that kind of story. So it's a it's

441
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem helping, encourage, helping this, helping

442
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:22,240
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, helping the NFL. These are the kinds of stories.

443
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: These are different stories, but these are the kinds of

444
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: stories that with all the focus on what where some

445
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: of the good is in sports in the NFL, this

446
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 1: is the kind of story that could give you some

447
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,760
Speaker 1: some of great asset for what sports is good about.

448
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 1: We want to keep it going usible that the changes

449
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: that maybe make it a little bit easier for guys

450
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: with Yeah, I don't want to I don't want to

451
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 1: go as to what might be possible. But just in society,

452
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: you look at some of the things that involve some

453
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: of our players in his particular case, in society itself

454
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: is going in that direction about an understanding of these

455
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: illnesses and of what to accept in terms of things

456
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,919
Speaker 1: to deal with it, medication, that type of thing. And

457
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: so I wouldn't go to the NFL. I would just

458
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 1: generally go to society. We're in a changing society. We

459
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 1: have been forever, and so I think that's positive for him.

460
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 1: By the way, the way that in general things are

461
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 1: going towards more and more knowledge, more and more understanding

462
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: of what society says is good. There's only one of

463
00:35:53,080 --> 00:36:04,280
Speaker 1: four reasons people or somehow penalized. Only one of them

464
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: is to slap them. The others are to get them

465
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: out of society okay, or make an example out of them,

466
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 1: okay that one, get them out, or to rehab them.

467
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 1: Those are the four reasons that we have punishment. Only

468
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: one of them has to do with Okay, you messed up,

469
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: you get five lashes. Only one. The others are to

470
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:47,879
Speaker 1: rehab the situation or to set an example we don't

471
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 1: want this in society, or to get them out, get

472
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 1: them away from everybody. None of those apply to Randy Gregor,

473
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: not one of them. Title season. I go back when

474
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 1: I see I'll never forget when I first got in

475
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: the NFL. Purportedly Tom Landry said, don't ever complete your

476
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: judgment on alignment until its third year, because it can

477
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 1: for players. You need that time, You need that experience.

478
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: The things that we liked about him, I like about him.

479
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 1: What his tool kid is is enough to be a

480
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 1: big time player for us and get the kinds of

481
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: snaps that we can get everything we wanted out of

482
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: a number one pick. He's got that, he tries to

483
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 1: incorporate two or three others that he'd be better off

484
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 1: not doing, because that kind of gets him in trouble.

485
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: From the standpoint of his approach to getting better as

486
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 1: a player. I think it's going to be all uphill

487
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: from there, And in no way have I would like

488
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: to have seen him play more last year, but on

489
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: a personal basis, my my perspective, not personal, just my

490
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: perspective of where asked me this question at the end

491
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: of this year, I think I'll have a real positive

492
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: answer for you. But the kinds of thing he does

493
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: is size his length, his ability to get in there.

494
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 1: Uh uh. You know, he just absolutely plays the toughest

495
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 1: physical the toughest, most demanding spots there are on the team.

496
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 1: You are clearly supporting David. I mean, I mean, Brandy Gregory,

497
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: you guys have off David bring him back. Yeah, I

498
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 1: don't think you. I wouldn't say that from my standpoint,

499
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: I would not and I'm not going to elaborate on

500
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 1: him at all. But h and everybody's got their perspective.

501
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: I've had more direct and more decision making regarding David

502
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 1: than anybody in the organization. And I'm not saying anything

503
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: about what his future is with the Cowboys at all.

504
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: I'm not saying anything, and I'm the one that has

505
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 1: spent the most time with it. He talked to us

506
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 1: at the boxing thing about it. We asked about your

507
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: thirtieth university on any team, He said, I feel like

508
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: I've never worked in a day. And you look at

509
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: the success of the Super Bowls, Hall of Fame, as

510
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: Boston Stadium, the Star everything, Why does winning still matter

511
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: to you? Because that's that was the only reason that

512
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: I got involved to begin with, and that's been reinforced.

513
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,879
Speaker 1: I feel compelled. I don't know why I do, but

514
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 1: because a lot of what I've been associated with has

515
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: been the promotion and the way the game has evolved

516
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: during the last thirty years, and the way stadiums and

517
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: the way the game is presented in all of those

518
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: financial things, well, I didn't get involved in the Scowboys

519
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: for to have more dollars. A matter of fact, I

520
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 1: gave up all my dollars and it did not look

521
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: like there was right away a path to have a

522
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: good investment. When I got involved, I got involved to win.

523
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: I must tell you I didn't know it was going

524
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 1: to be as tough. I said, we will win the

525
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 1: football games. I'm committed winning the football games. But on

526
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: the way, we've managed to make it pretty competitive toward

527
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: getting those super Bowls, and I'm proud of every one

528
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: of them that we have. I am absolutely I couldn't

529
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 1: be more. I'm going to say more in why mode

530
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: than as to why we haven't won or been in

531
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl in the last twenty some years. It

532
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: is just absolutely a stunning thing to me to think

533
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: of why we're not there. With what we commit and

534
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 1: what we do to win super Bowls. Most teams have

535
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: been through several general managers. They've been through just as

536
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: many general managers have been two coaches. So I look

537
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,280
Speaker 1: at all the teams that have had all their change

538
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 1: in management pursuing that Super Bowl, pursuing those Super bowl

539
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 1: How we managed not to get a Super Bowl with

540
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 1: Tony Romore as our quarterback will always be probably my

541
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: biggest disappointment. We had something very special there and we

542
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 1: should have been able to figure out a way to

543
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 1: get it home at the time, and it wasn't because

544
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 1: we didn't use every trick in the book. Salary cap

545
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: wise everywhere in the world put the talent on the

546
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,280
Speaker 1: field to get it done. And we've actually, in my mind,

547
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 1: had two, possibly three times when we should have dominoed

548
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 1: and should have gotten there, but we didn't. All that

549
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 1: does sitting here at this juncture, when I look around

550
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 1: where we are and I look at it even through

551
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: a personal perspective, there is nothing. There's absolutely nothing short

552
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: of the health and good will of the people I

553
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: care about. There's nothing that means more to me than

554
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: if I could get a Super Bowl. Nothing. When you

555
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 1: bought the team, you said you gave up all your

556
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: dollars to get in it. And now that you have

557
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: a lot of dollars, how does that hunger remain the same.

558
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: And I think maybe players go through that. Well, you know,

559
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 1: they've they've come from nothing and all of sudden they're

560
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: in a position or take care of generations. Well, I

561
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:52,280
Speaker 1: admire people who have got enough to quit being hungry

562
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: or quit having a something they want to have, and

563
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 1: then they've got it and they have peace. I've never

564
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: been there, and so my point is and the hunger

565
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: is for what we're talking about right now, winning a

566
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:20,760
Speaker 1: super Bowl, not to get another billion dollars. Gil selected

567
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: you as a presenter. What that means you're kind of

568
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 1: whether they got a bunch of guys, but your history

569
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: with Guil goes back quite awa. I don't know when

570
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 1: I've ever had a something that meants, meant, said so

571
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: many things, and meant so much to me as to win.

572
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: Michael Irvin asked me to present him because I knew

573
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: what I knew what Michael Irvin was to the success

574
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 1: we had had, and I knew how indispensable he was

575
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: to the success we've had. When Emmett Smith asked me,

576
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: I was just just humble because I knew some of

577
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: the great places or not, the least of which was

578
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: Daryl Johnson, who led the way through the Holds, and

579
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 1: I knew what he was doing and what a comment

580
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: was for him to ask me. Larry Allen is at

581
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: the top of my list for admiring individuals and people

582
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 1: that would fight through and overcome his demon to be

583
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:45,439
Speaker 1: one of the greatest players of all. The point I'm

584
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 1: making it's the men and what they're about, which they

585
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: were all completely different. They were associated with the Cowboys,

586
00:45:56,080 --> 00:46:02,720
Speaker 1: but they were totally different in what made you another

587
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: human being, almost so humbled by what they were and

588
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 1: God had given them. And I mean that about Michael,

589
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: and I know more about full Bulls than anybody in

590
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 1: all cases. Well, you put Gilbrand in there, and you

591
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: see what Gil's story is and what he was, and

592
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 1: for him to articulate and say, Jerry took this and

593
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 1: took the ball that we spent our careers doing, Tom

594
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: and Techs and him and made us proud doing it.

595
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: And that's about the best comments that I've had given

596
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 1: me to get or done. And I've always said that

597
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: I would really hope that I could be known as

598
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: somebody that while I ran with the ball regarding the

599
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, because I really have never thought about owning

600
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: them like you do a house or this bus or something.

601
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: I thought you were just husband them for your time

602
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 1: while you were running with the ball. For him to

603
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: make that connection like that put it right there with

604
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: the uniqueness of the great stories of the other people.

605
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: We haven't had anybody in there that doesn't have an

606
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 1: absolute great story, and he's one of them. So that's

607
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 1: a long winded way of saying, it's the way he

608
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:30,879
Speaker 1: looked at doing it. That just for his arguably is

609
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 1: the biggest comment that anybody could pay me. There's some

610
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: teams that you know, most teams so a protective of

611
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: their seeing other people being able to see their practice

612
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,280
Speaker 1: and things like that. And you guys have businesses around

613
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: your practice. Obviously you have departments being built there. Why

614
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,479
Speaker 1: does that not bother them? Well, when we get when

615
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: we get in areas like that, we literally can go

616
00:47:55,640 --> 00:48:00,040
Speaker 1: in and outside between drills, just go right inside. I

617
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,760
Speaker 1: didn't run it inside. So when we get into areas

618
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 1: that we're sensitive about or that really need that kind

619
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: of of protection, we can run inside and do it

620
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: in the Doctor Pepper building, going to block all those

621
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: things anyway, you guys got well, of course, uh, we're going.

622
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: We've got people in the buildings themselves that are associated

623
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: this day in time. Was to keep somebody back there

624
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 1: in richest department from giving it. You know. Some of

625
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 1: the biggest hunts for Red October is trying to find

626
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 1: the leak. It started back thirty years ago for me,

627
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: and we found out that the leak was coming from

628
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: the head coach. The presenter most time, I don't believe.

629
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: I don't believe I can match al. But the boy,

630
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 1: he's really uh, he's got quite a number. I think

631
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 1: the number is. I read Charlotte and she said he

632
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 1: has nine or nine. But i'd like to, I would

633
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 1: like to. Don't come back. He pushed the window back.

634
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 1: Sure it is, sure it is. I thought about that

635
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 1: four assigned him