WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: O-o-h Child

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, get everybody on Dan Hoard and thanks for downloading

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals Booth podcast. The ooch Things agoon to get easier. Addition,

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<v Speaker 1>as the Bengals lose a tight one in Jake Browning's

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<v Speaker 1>first NFL start, falling to the Pittsburgh Steelers sixteen to ten.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up, you'll hear radio replays, locker room comments from

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<v Speaker 1>players and coaches, and postgame analysis from Dave Lapham. Then,

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<v Speaker 1>in this week's fun Facts Conversation, you'll get to know

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<v Speaker 1>a Bengals newcomer in twenty twenty three whose father played

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<v Speaker 1>the radio replays from day's six point loss to the dreaded, hated,

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<v Speaker 1>but grudgingly respected Pittsburgh Steelers. Tomorrow line from an old

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<v Speaker 1>advertising campaign. Today, the Cincinnati Bengals find out what Ken

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<v Speaker 1>Browning do for you as quarterback Jake Browning makes his

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<v Speaker 1>first NFL start nearly five years after his last college start,

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<v Speaker 1>a Rose Bowl matchup against Ohio State. Today it's the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals against the Pittsburgh Steelers, and it is time for

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<v Speaker 1>the pigskin to fly. Here in the jungle. Warren Inted,

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<v Speaker 1>running back on third and two they handed to him.

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<v Speaker 1>Warren does not get the first down. The ball comes out,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals pick it up. Turner's running it back, fastest

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<v Speaker 1>man of the combine this year, and he gets tackled

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<v Speaker 1>at the thirty nine yard line by a tight end

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<v Speaker 1>Connor Hayward. The ball was punched out on the run

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<v Speaker 1>by Jalen Warren. This will be a forty one yard

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<v Speaker 1>the old goal attempt for Chris Boswell. No kicker in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL has been better this year than Boswell. He's

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen for nineteen and now he's nineteen for twenty. The

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<v Speaker 1>kick is right down the middle. His only miss this

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<v Speaker 1>year was wide right from sixty one yards away, and

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<v Speaker 1>he was.

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<v Speaker 2>Good from fifty six and the penalty went from sixty one.

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<v Speaker 3>And he missed.

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<v Speaker 1>This kickoff fielded on a bounce. Travon Williams running back

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<v Speaker 1>to the thirty sideline forty forty five hand tackled just

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<v Speaker 1>shy of midfield by Miles killer Brew. Pittsburgh kicked it

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<v Speaker 1>low and it didn't bother Travon Williams at all. Fielded

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<v Speaker 1>it near the two and ran it back forty five yards,

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<v Speaker 1>his longest kickoff return of the year. Play action fake

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<v Speaker 1>to mix and throw deflected, still caught by Jamar Chase

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<v Speaker 1>on his feet at the Pittsburgh thirty twenty five. Mixing

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<v Speaker 1>down there to block and Chase gets shoved out of

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<v Speaker 1>bounds at the sixteen yard line. Sometimes better to be lucky,

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<v Speaker 1>been good. In this case, Jamar Chase is both caught

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<v Speaker 1>the ricochet and then used his great speed to turn

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<v Speaker 1>that into a thirty one yard game. Browning fakes a handoff,

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<v Speaker 1>rolls left his pass caught at the eleven sample toward

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<v Speaker 1>the end zone touchdown Bengals true sample, knocking over Bowling

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<v Speaker 1>Pins on his way to the end zone as he

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<v Speaker 1>catches his second touchdown of the season and gives Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 1>the lead. Browning has the ball five man rush. He

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<v Speaker 1>throws it deep for Chase.

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<v Speaker 4>What a catch.

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<v Speaker 1>He was blanketed by Joey Porter Junior. Threw it right

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<v Speaker 1>over his helmet and Jamar Chase made the catch down

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<v Speaker 1>to the twenty one for a twenty five yard game.

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<v Speaker 1>Browning catches the shotgun snap quick pass interceptive. Jamar Chase

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<v Speaker 1>tackles Trenton Thompson at the twenty one yard line after

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<v Speaker 1>the red zone pick for Pittsburgh.

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<v Speaker 3>Can he pick.

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<v Speaker 1>It is under center on first in goal from the five.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals lead seven to three. It's a handoff, notje

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<v Speaker 1>Yes bouncing it wide to the left. Touchdown Pittsburgh is

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<v Speaker 1>a penalty flag down.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a hold in the perimeter that's gonna be nullified

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<v Speaker 2>and penalizing.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no foul for holding with over the players a touchdown.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, pick up that talking to picking up that flagged.

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<v Speaker 1>Browning back to throw screens. It caught by mix and

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<v Speaker 1>he has Kappa in front, runs to the forty forty

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<v Speaker 1>five fifty Pittsburgh forty Steelers thirty five and he goes

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<v Speaker 1>out of bounds. They're gonna mark him out at the

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<v Speaker 1>thirty six. So the screen to Joe Mixon results in

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<v Speaker 1>a thirty nine yard game and the Bengals aren't dead yet.

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<v Speaker 1>With two forty to go, Adam Minas snaps it. Here

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<v Speaker 1>comes the right footed kick and it is good. So

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals make it a six point game, and now

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see if they can recover an on sidekick to

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<v Speaker 1>give themselves a chance for a miracle victory. Mcpheerson again

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<v Speaker 1>adjust the football straight up and down on the tee.

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<v Speaker 1>He's about two steps away. He approaches the ball, now

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<v Speaker 1>changes sides, gets ready to kick it from right to left.

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<v Speaker 1>He kicks the top of the ball, It bounces and

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<v Speaker 1>it's grabbed by Pickings and Jake Browning's first NFL start.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals manage one touchdown and one field goal, They

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<v Speaker 1>turned it over in the red zone and they lose

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<v Speaker 1>despite holding the Pittsburgh Steelers to sixteen points by the

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<v Speaker 1>final score of sixteen to ten. We start our postgame

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<v Speaker 1>analysis with the Bengals starting QB. Jake Browning. Stats were

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good. He completed seventy three percent of his passes

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<v Speaker 1>and threw for two hundred and twenty seven yards in

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<v Speaker 1>a touchdown. That's the good news. But Jake held on

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<v Speaker 1>to the ball for two long on some third down

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<v Speaker 1>plays leading to sacks, and his red zone interception on

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<v Speaker 1>third and seven at the eighteen yard line when the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals had a seven to three lead in the third

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<v Speaker 1>quarter was devastating. Here are the most interesting things that

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<v Speaker 1>Browning had to say in a postgame news conference.

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<v Speaker 4>Some ups, some downs. Definitely not my best game. Just

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<v Speaker 4>try to keep fighting. I think starting with the first

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<v Speaker 4>drive kind of getting settled in. Felt like there were

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<v Speaker 4>times where I was settled in. I felt like there

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<v Speaker 4>were other times where I needed to play better, but

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<v Speaker 4>it was not up to my standard of how I

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<v Speaker 4>would have liked to play.

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<v Speaker 5>You talked all week.

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<v Speaker 6>About the aggressive how do you go out your manage

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<v Speaker 6>the line between.

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<v Speaker 1>The push the ball and making them play.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's always kind of hard to snow until

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<v Speaker 4>you watch the tape, and it's hard to give a

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<v Speaker 4>generalized answer. I think there were somewhere it was good

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<v Speaker 4>to be aggressive, and I think there were somewhere you know,

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<v Speaker 4>could have just checked it down and maybe not taken

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<v Speaker 4>some sacks. But I think part of me getting back

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<v Speaker 4>into the groove of playing and stuff like that is

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<v Speaker 4>is kind of figuring out like, Okay, where is that

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<v Speaker 4>line for me? And where is that line h in

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<v Speaker 4>this offense? And what what is that line I need

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<v Speaker 4>to play on in order to give us the best

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<v Speaker 4>chance to win the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Your reaction was exactly what.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Yeah, I think I just made the decision too

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<v Speaker 4>early in the play, like let the play play out

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<v Speaker 4>and let seventeen decide if he's going to cover the

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<v Speaker 4>curl or cover the guy in the flat, And I

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<v Speaker 4>kind of made the decision without really reading it out

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<v Speaker 4>to OK, hey, let's just get the ball. They're very

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<v Speaker 4>soft on Jamar. Let's just get the ball to him,

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<v Speaker 4>get forward, get three. This is going to be a

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<v Speaker 4>game that comes down to you know, it's not going

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<v Speaker 4>to be a shootout.

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<v Speaker 3>And so.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, that was kind of my thought process, and

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<v Speaker 4>in hindsight, I guess, play out the play and read

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<v Speaker 4>it out, don't just see something pre snap and kind

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<v Speaker 4>of make a decision.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean after I mean, what.

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<v Speaker 2>You last start is what the roller bowl? When you

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<v Speaker 2>have I.

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<v Speaker 4>Means, yeah, I mean I think that's a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>of a cop out. Uh for me to sit here

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<v Speaker 4>and say that, you know, any any interception was because

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<v Speaker 4>I haven't played in a while, Like it's a cop out.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I can read out that play and make

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<v Speaker 4>the right decision.

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<v Speaker 2>Is too early to get a sense of what is

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest thing you'll build upon going.

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<v Speaker 3>Forward from today?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh yeah, probably a little too early. I would say.

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<v Speaker 4>There's just some things like maybe that don't show up

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<v Speaker 4>on tape, like kind of learning all right, here's what

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<v Speaker 4>it looks like to start a game, and and I

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<v Speaker 4>think figure out where that like I said, where that

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<v Speaker 4>line is I'm playing aggressive, but then also knowing that

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<v Speaker 4>this isn't going to be a forty two to forty

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<v Speaker 4>five games, So taking some of those sacks, uh, when

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<v Speaker 4>you're trying to make the play end up hurting in

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<v Speaker 4>some field position stuff. And and I think just the

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<v Speaker 4>overall experience I will build from and being able to

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<v Speaker 4>see myself on tape and critique it pretty hard will

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<v Speaker 4>be good for me too.

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<v Speaker 1>Say you waited so long for this moment?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, now, sure, can you appreciate that?

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<v Speaker 3>Or it does the.

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<v Speaker 1>Longest color over it? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>I think you know the nex twenty four hours maybe

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<v Speaker 4>or at some point it will not feel like just

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<v Speaker 4>pissed that we lost. Maybe it'll take a year or two,

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<v Speaker 4>but yeah, I think just lost a close game where

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<v Speaker 4>you feel like you didn't play your best and we

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<v Speaker 4>didn't play well enough on offense and only gave up

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<v Speaker 4>sixteen points on defense and we lost.

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<v Speaker 3>And so.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think that's kind of my primary thought in

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<v Speaker 4>my head.

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<v Speaker 1>As Browning pointed out, the Bengals only gave up sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>points and that's usually good enough to win. But the

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<v Speaker 1>Steelers went up and down the field, running for one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty three yards and passing for two two

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<v Speaker 1>sixty eight. That equals four hundred and twenty one total yards,

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<v Speaker 1>ending Pittsburgh's fifty eight game streak of finishing with fewer

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<v Speaker 1>than four hundred. Every other team in the NFL had

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<v Speaker 1>at least four four hundred yard performances in the same span.

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<v Speaker 1>Tight End Pat Fryarmouth, who had only played in five

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<v Speaker 1>games this year because of a hamstring injury, was the

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<v Speaker 1>star of the show with nine catches for one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty yards. Kenny Pick had finished with a passer

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<v Speaker 1>rating of ninety seven point eight, and his career passer

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<v Speaker 1>rating and twenty two previous starts was seventy seven point seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Hilton had eight solo tackles, including two for losses,

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<v Speaker 1>and I spoke to him in front of his locker, Mike.

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<v Speaker 1>The Steelers obviously changed offensive coordinators this week. Was their

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<v Speaker 1>offense much different?

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<v Speaker 3>Not too much?

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<v Speaker 7>They were definitely an only thing I will notice that

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<v Speaker 7>they did throw over the middle little more than they'd

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<v Speaker 7>done in the pass and they caught us in some

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<v Speaker 7>mad spots, and you know, something supposed to plays over

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<v Speaker 7>the middle of the field.

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<v Speaker 1>Pat Fryermouth has missed much of this season. He does

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<v Speaker 1>not have the statistics he would normally have, but he

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<v Speaker 1>looked healthy today and obviously he hurt.

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<v Speaker 3>He did.

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<v Speaker 7>He's one of the better young tight ends in the game,

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<v Speaker 7>and they try to featu him as much as possible,

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<v Speaker 7>and like I said, they had a good game plan

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<v Speaker 7>for him to work the middle of the field and

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<v Speaker 7>it has he says doing that though.

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<v Speaker 1>It seemed like third downs in the third and fourth

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<v Speaker 1>quarter were really the key to the game. They converted

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<v Speaker 1>several in a row, and I'll give Kenny pick a credit.

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<v Speaker 1>He made some good throws on those plays.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, this just you know, them playing good ball early

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<v Speaker 7>early in the first half, we were getting off the

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<v Speaker 7>field on third down, and second half they just kept

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<v Speaker 7>their drives going and kind of put us intel spots

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<v Speaker 7>to where we couldn't get off the field and kind

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<v Speaker 7>of came back to bite us. So, you know, that's

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<v Speaker 7>something we got to go back over the field and

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<v Speaker 7>look at and see where we can make corrections.

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<v Speaker 1>What'd you think of Kenny's performance, because he threw a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of deep balls that were really right on the money.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, you know, he's a good quarterback. You know, he

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<v Speaker 7>made throws when he needs to, he escapes the pocket

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<v Speaker 7>wheel and he just does what he needs to do

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<v Speaker 7>for their offense. And you know today he had a

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<v Speaker 7>good day and you know they gotta go win. So

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<v Speaker 7>co rest of.

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<v Speaker 1>Them, what's your mindset after this game now that you

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<v Speaker 1>guys have fallen to five and six.

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<v Speaker 7>Uh, just continue to keep going. I mean, we got

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<v Speaker 7>a tell thee going out in Jacksonville on Monday night.

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<v Speaker 7>But you know, it's the opportunity for us to turn

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<v Speaker 7>it around and you know, try to try to get

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<v Speaker 7>things on positive noble.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, let's hear from head coach Zach Taylor, who spent

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<v Speaker 1>three minutes with lap after the game.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's the first thing that I'd like to know

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<v Speaker 2>is what the hell did they tell you when they

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<v Speaker 2>picked the flag up on the holding call? That's all

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<v Speaker 2>I mean. It affects the play, grabs, turns them around,

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<v Speaker 2>spins them around, they score a touchdown right off that

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<v Speaker 2>at the point of attack, they throw a flag and

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<v Speaker 2>pick it up. What was their explanation on that.

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<v Speaker 6>They saw holding and then one of the other officials

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<v Speaker 6>said it wasn't holding, so they just discussed it and

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<v Speaker 6>they picked up the flag.

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<v Speaker 2>That was that was a tough one to say the least.

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<v Speaker 2>Did Pittsburgh. I mean, that's a good defensive football team.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously they don't do anything differently. Did they play more

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<v Speaker 2>man than zone then you thought, or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 6>Early in the game, they played a lot more man,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, trying to put pressure on us to take

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<v Speaker 6>away the run and make us throw the ball in

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<v Speaker 6>the rain a little bit as a game win. They

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<v Speaker 6>mix it up kind of the things that we'd seen

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<v Speaker 6>it on tape, and nothing was such surprise. That's what

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<v Speaker 6>they did to Cleveland last week. Early in the game,

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<v Speaker 6>backup quarterback played a lot of single high and try

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<v Speaker 6>to make him go win. And I thought our guys

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<v Speaker 6>handled it really well. I thought the first half we

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<v Speaker 6>played the type of game we inventioned it was going

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<v Speaker 6>to be, you know, I think I think key situational

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<v Speaker 6>things that popped up were, you know, we had a

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<v Speaker 6>chance to kind of pin him down there with the

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<v Speaker 6>punt under the two minute morning in the first half

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<v Speaker 6>and maybe come away with some points there if we'd

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<v Speaker 6>get in to stop and so we got to capitalize

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<v Speaker 6>on that. And then coming out the second half we

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<v Speaker 6>get in the red zone, we got to come away

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<v Speaker 6>with points not a turnover, and then there's opportunity. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>we we punted the ball down to the eleven and

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<v Speaker 6>we can't let him out on the first run. So

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<v Speaker 6>I think just as a team, we got to really

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<v Speaker 6>assess all three units. We got to do a better

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<v Speaker 6>job capitalizing. It might just be one situation a game

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<v Speaker 6>that we got to be better at. And that's really

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<v Speaker 6>what it came down to today.

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<v Speaker 2>Third down, they converted it like a fifty percent clip

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<v Speaker 2>and I think at one point, I know it was

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<v Speaker 2>too nine and they get all four of their sacks

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<v Speaker 2>on third down, they got the red zone interception on

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<v Speaker 2>third down. You know that that was a big difference

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<v Speaker 2>in the game, was the third down situations when.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, those are all part of the situations we talked about,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, and you got to be great in those areas.

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<v Speaker 6>And again it's it's no surprise that the game ends

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<v Speaker 6>up being a one score game and the team that

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<v Speaker 6>was a little bit better in those areas wins the game.

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<v Speaker 2>So the running game obviously left a lot to be desired.

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<v Speaker 2>How tough is that with a quarterback with this first

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<v Speaker 2>NFL start, going against that defense and facing that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of situation.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, we we just we didn't get enough normal down places,

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<v Speaker 6>and that part of that is running the ball better

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<v Speaker 6>and throwing the ball better and getting first tallensd We

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<v Speaker 6>put ourselves in a position to do that. Obviously, it's

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<v Speaker 6>a tough sledding going against that front sometimes, and they

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<v Speaker 6>try to take you out of your eleven personnel runs

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<v Speaker 6>by playing base to eleven, so you got to throw

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<v Speaker 6>the ball, and so of course you get big people,

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<v Speaker 6>and so again it was it was a challenge. We

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<v Speaker 6>got to find more production there. We're going to play

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<v Speaker 6>them here in a couple of weeks, and that's something

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<v Speaker 6>we're going to have to assess and be better at.

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<v Speaker 2>What about field position overall, I mean Treyvon had the

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<v Speaker 2>big kickoff returning to cave you a pretty short field

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<v Speaker 2>and you capitalized on that for a touchdown. Overall, how

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<v Speaker 2>did you see field position unfolding?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I thought there was a few more opportunities we

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<v Speaker 6>could have capitalized on, and it went about the way

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<v Speaker 6>you thought in terms of how it shook out. I

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<v Speaker 6>don't think he either time either team was really a

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<v Speaker 6>huge disadvantage that the kickoff return obviously led to points

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<v Speaker 6>for us, and so just moments like that with hidden yardage.

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<v Speaker 6>Those are big moments in the game, you know. And

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<v Speaker 6>I thought Jamar made some good plays for us. I

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<v Speaker 6>got us some chunk plays as well, and stepped up

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<v Speaker 6>when we needed them too, And unfortunately we just didn't

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<v Speaker 6>get enough of it to get.

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<v Speaker 3>Us the one.

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<v Speaker 2>They're tied in farm Youth that had missed a good

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<v Speaker 2>part of the season with injury. I mean, that dude's

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<v Speaker 2>a weapon.

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<v Speaker 3>He is.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, He's been a good player and he can

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<v Speaker 6>win some one on one matchups. And again we'll see

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<v Speaker 6>him a couple of weeks there. We gotta do a

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<v Speaker 6>better job.

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<v Speaker 1>The rematch in Pittsburgh is four games away. The Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>have a Monday night road game next week at Jacksonville,

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<v Speaker 1>followed by home games against the Colts and Vikings, then

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<v Speaker 1>road games in Pittsburgh and Kansas City before finishing at

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<v Speaker 1>They are celebrating their new offensive coordinators in Pittsburgh as

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<v Speaker 1>the Steelers come to Cincinnati and beat the Bengals sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>to ten. How big of a factor do you think

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<v Speaker 1>that was? Because the Steelers wound up with four hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty one yards of offense and average more than

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<v Speaker 1>six yards of play.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're fortunate in that they're being promoted to

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<v Speaker 2>that position at the expense of Canada's firing coincided with

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<v Speaker 2>farm youths coming back and being available to them. He

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<v Speaker 2>was huge, huge, I mean, the weapon in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>of the field was there the entire game. And the numbers,

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<v Speaker 2>the numbers speak for themselves. I mean, I think he

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<v Speaker 2>had well over one hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>Yards receiving nine for one for one.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty that's pretty impressive. And early in the game, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean twenty four yard completion, twenty nine yard completion, his

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<v Speaker 2>first two catches for fifty three yards. I mean that

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<v Speaker 2>got them off and running. So I think that was

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<v Speaker 2>another common denominator. The Bengals were hope full of minimizing

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<v Speaker 2>explosives and Pittsburgh Steelers were able to get too many.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, Kenny Pickett through for two hundred and seventy eight yards,

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<v Speaker 1>no touchdowns. He never seems to throw touchdowns, but he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't throw any interceptions. He set the Steelers record for

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<v Speaker 1>consecutive passes without a pick. But I've got to hand

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<v Speaker 1>it to the guy because he threw about three deep

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<v Speaker 1>balls that were outstanding in this game.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he really did. I thought he I thought he

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<v Speaker 2>played his best football game year overall. He's not a

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<v Speaker 2>big touchdown guy. He's not a big interception guy. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean he he does take care of the football. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think people thought he was being a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>too conservative at the quarterback position. I think that might

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<v Speaker 2>have been another thing that he was told by the

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<v Speaker 2>co coordinators. Air it out a little bit, take some shots.

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<v Speaker 2>We're good. We're okay with that. You know, we're never

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<v Speaker 2>gonna make any unless you throw it. And if it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't work out, we have a defense that'll, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>back us up. So don't be afraid to take some

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<v Speaker 2>hits down the football field. And when he did, and

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<v Speaker 2>he hit one, he hit one right away. It's like,

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<v Speaker 2>going to do this a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 1>The Steelers ran for one hundred and fifty three yards.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals ran for twenty five and eleven carries. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't figure it out. Why is this running game so ineffective?

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<v Speaker 2>That's a great question. I mean, start the game out, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna be big, physical, two tight ends and a

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<v Speaker 2>sixth offensive lineman. We're gonna we're gonna get up there

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<v Speaker 2>and mash here. Well, I end up throwing the ball

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<v Speaker 2>out of that look. And they didn't go back to

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<v Speaker 2>that look all that often, although they did have the

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<v Speaker 2>sixth offensive lineman in there some you know, with another

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<v Speaker 2>tight end, but you know, and it was a low

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<v Speaker 2>scoring game the entire game. They had the lead, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a good, good part of the game, and just didn't

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<v Speaker 2>get back to running the football. Established in the running game,

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Mixon has had pretty good games, averaged seventy five

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<v Speaker 2>yards a game over the ten games of his career.

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<v Speaker 2>Against the Pittsburgh Steelers, he needed seventeen yards to get

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<v Speaker 2>to six thousand. He ended up with sixteen. He couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>even get there. So it's it's crazy how how well

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<v Speaker 2>the Pittsburgh Steelers made the Cincinnati Bengals one dimensional with

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<v Speaker 2>a rookie quarterback, and the Bengals goal was to make

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<v Speaker 2>Pittsburgh one dimensional with a quarterback who had been struggling,

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<v Speaker 2>and one succeeded and the other didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Jake Browning's numbers were okay, nineteen for twenty six, two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and twenty seven yards, one touchdown, one very costly pick,

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<v Speaker 1>and a ninety six point two passer rating. But those

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<v Speaker 1>stats don't take into account decision making. Some of the

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<v Speaker 1>times he held onto the ball too long, some of

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<v Speaker 1>the times he didn't throw it away when he should have.

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<v Speaker 1>Things like that were really costly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I know, I know that third down. All

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<v Speaker 2>the sacks came on third down, you know, and his

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<v Speaker 2>interception came in the red zone on third down. So

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<v Speaker 2>one team was dynamic on third down, that being the

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<v Speaker 2>Pittsburgh Steelers. They made money on the money down. The

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<v Speaker 2>Bengals went bankrupt on the money down. I mean, they

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<v Speaker 2>had all kinds of issues. Pittsburgh was like fifty percent

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<v Speaker 2>for the game, I think on third down, and the

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<v Speaker 2>Bengals were I know, at one point it was two

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<v Speaker 2>for nine, two for ten and all the all the

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<v Speaker 2>problems they had on third down, that was just that

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<v Speaker 2>was a critical part of the football game. You got

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<v Speaker 2>to give you gotta give Pittsburgh credit. They made made

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<v Speaker 2>plays when they when they needed to, particularly on third down,

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<v Speaker 2>and Jake was trying to I think he was probably thinking, K,

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<v Speaker 2>third down, we're plunting the football anyway, let me hold

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<v Speaker 2>it a little bit longer. Well, that's fine, but if

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<v Speaker 2>it's not there, you know, don't take a seven eight

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<v Speaker 2>yard sack and change the hidden yards. You know, even

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<v Speaker 2>more so because sacks that end up affecting the hidden

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<v Speaker 2>yards as well as you know, exchanging punts and that

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<v Speaker 2>sort of thing. I can understand, you know, during the

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<v Speaker 2>flow of the game. Okay, third down, let me just

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<v Speaker 2>wait and see if this unfolds the way I'm thinking.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought Pittsburgh did a pretty good job. Early in

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<v Speaker 2>the game. They were playing a lot of man, a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of pressure packages with man coverage behind it, and

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<v Speaker 2>then looked to me like they started playing a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit more zone and mixed that in a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>So I thought they did a pretty good job mixing

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<v Speaker 2>and matching on that side of the football as well.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals have the front seven back from a defense

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<v Speaker 1>that's been very good. It's stopping the run. But this year,

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<v Speaker 1>for the most part, it has not been very good.

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<v Speaker 1>It's stopping the run. It happened again today one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty three rushing yards. Nijie Harris wound up with

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<v Speaker 1>ninety nine in the game. I mean, we've heard these

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<v Speaker 1>things over and over again, tackling cutback runs. At some point,

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<v Speaker 1>do you just say, this year it's just not a

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<v Speaker 1>very good run stopping unit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it's it's It's one of those things

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<v Speaker 2>you can talk till you're blue in the face and

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<v Speaker 2>show tape all you want about. Okay, look, you got

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<v Speaker 2>to stay in your gap. I mean, you can't cheat

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<v Speaker 2>and try to help somebody else. They're going to hit

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<v Speaker 2>your gap and try to It's whenever things are going badly,

0:23:30.320 --> 0:23:32.159
<v Speaker 2>you have guys that try to do too much to

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<v Speaker 2>rectify the problem, and that only compounds it. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>rectify it. That compounds the problem. And you see it

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<v Speaker 2>over and over and over again. But your natural instinct

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<v Speaker 2>as a football player is not Okay, well we're getting

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<v Speaker 2>smoked over there, but I'm just gonna stay right here

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm going to take this guy on, and you

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<v Speaker 2>don't feel like you're in any factor in the game,

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<v Speaker 2>in the in the snap, in the game, so your

0:23:54.800 --> 0:23:57.399
<v Speaker 2>instinct is to shed and go make a play and

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<v Speaker 2>help your teammates, and sometimes mistackle or whatever, and not

0:24:02.560 --> 0:24:06.520
<v Speaker 2>the problem starts to compound itself. Mistackles at the point

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<v Speaker 2>of time, and then it cuts back to where you're

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to be and you're the final part of the problem.

0:24:10.880 --> 0:24:14.960
<v Speaker 2>So it just it compounds itself and until you, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>take a look at it after the game, it's like, oh, man,

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<v Speaker 2>why did I do that? But your natural football instinct

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<v Speaker 2>is to try to help alleviate the problem, help your teammates,

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<v Speaker 2>and sometimes that's the worst thing you can do.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought last year was Mike Tomlin's best coaching job.

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<v Speaker 1>The year after Roethlisberger started terribly wound up finishing a

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<v Speaker 1>game over five hundred. I don't know how he's doing

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<v Speaker 1>it this year. Three games over five hundred. Then they

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<v Speaker 1>have been outscored for the season.

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<v Speaker 2>It is remarkable, it isn't. I mean, this is the

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<v Speaker 2>first game where they should they outgained somebody. When they've

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<v Speaker 2>been out gained ten times and one six of the ten.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's almost like, how does that happen? It happen,

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<v Speaker 2>And it's not like the Bengals turned it over left

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<v Speaker 2>and right. Now, it's critical where they turned it over

0:25:06.160 --> 0:25:09.000
<v Speaker 2>and how they turned it over was was critical, but

0:25:09.240 --> 0:25:12.600
<v Speaker 2>you know Pittsburgh had a red zone turnover as well,

0:25:12.640 --> 0:25:14.760
<v Speaker 2>so that kind of, you know, cancel each other out.

0:25:15.440 --> 0:25:19.040
<v Speaker 2>He just believes that if he can stay within a

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<v Speaker 2>score himself, his coaching staff, his players are going to

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<v Speaker 2>finish the game better than you do. I don't care

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<v Speaker 2>who he's playing against. He just feels like we've been

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<v Speaker 2>together for a long time. We know exactly how this

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<v Speaker 2>is going to unfold, and you know, we know what's acceptable,

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<v Speaker 2>we know what's not. They're just so confident and their

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<v Speaker 2>ability to get that done that it almost it almost

0:25:41.359 --> 0:25:45.119
<v Speaker 2>he wills victories. He like he wills the Pittsburgh Steelers

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<v Speaker 2>just by his presence and the fact that he's done it,

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<v Speaker 2>not just a couple on it over and over and

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<v Speaker 2>over again, year after year with the same type of formula.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's like it's a self fulfilling prophecy. It's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like this season at five and six

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<v Speaker 1>is like unveiling more weaknesses than you thought that the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals had. I mean, going into the season, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really see many weaknesses on the roster. Now I'm thinking, well,

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<v Speaker 1>they probably need a little of this, they need that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wondering now that if they have a few more

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<v Speaker 1>areas of concern than I would have thought.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think I think that. You know, sometimes when

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<v Speaker 2>you take a good shot, like in a boxing match,

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<v Speaker 2>you take a shot, it affects you for you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a few more rounds before you can finally compose yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think, you know, things that happened early on,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, Joe's injury. Early on, they staggered, and

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<v Speaker 2>then he comes back from that and he starts to

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<v Speaker 2>play well, and they know what they've got, and they

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<v Speaker 2>go on a four game winning streak, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>then and then they get they get hit in the

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<v Speaker 2>mouth by a hot quarterback and their defense has issues,

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<v Speaker 2>and then all of a sudden, the confidence starts to wane.

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<v Speaker 2>And the next week you gets you get smoked again defensively,

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<v Speaker 2>and now it's like, how do we get that confidence back?

0:27:01.320 --> 0:27:04.200
<v Speaker 2>Because now our quarterback's done for the year. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>just like man it's a fifteen round actually, in this case,

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<v Speaker 2>a seventeen round fight. Seventeen games, so you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>take standing whatever counts and try to come back, make

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<v Speaker 2>sure you don't get tko or kod. And sometimes it

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<v Speaker 2>takes a little bit too long to recover, and before

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<v Speaker 2>you know it, you've taken too many shots and man,

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<v Speaker 2>you're you're down too many points in the fight to

0:27:32.000 --> 0:27:34.399
<v Speaker 2>outpoint the guy. So now you've got to try for

0:27:34.400 --> 0:27:37.280
<v Speaker 2>a knockout, and then you might get knocked out. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of similarities there.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Round twelve in Jacksonville next Monday night.

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<v Speaker 2>Round twelve in Jacksonville. And that's not going to be

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<v Speaker 2>an easy, easy situation either. I mean they're in a dogfight.

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<v Speaker 2>They're in a dogfight for their division and the playoffs

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<v Speaker 2>and everything that goes along with it life in the NFL. DAN,

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<v Speaker 2>it ain't easy, right.

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<v Speaker 1>It certainly isn't. Jack him Go by the Way is

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<v Speaker 1>eight and three after beating the Texans twenty four to

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one. That means the Jags have opened up a

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<v Speaker 1>two game lead in the AFC south over Houston and Indianapolis.

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<v Speaker 1>Now time for this week's fun Facts Conversation. Where you

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<v Speaker 1>get to know the person under the pads. Time for

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<v Speaker 1>some fun facts with tight End IRV Smith Junior. You

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<v Speaker 1>are from New Orleans, one of my favorite places in

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<v Speaker 1>the world to visit. What do you love about your

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<v Speaker 1>hometown and what do you miss when you're not there?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh?

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<v Speaker 5>In New Orleans it's one of a kan It's like

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<v Speaker 5>nowhere else in the world.

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<v Speaker 3>I truly believe. You know.

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<v Speaker 5>We known for our food, so I gotta go. I

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<v Speaker 5>gotta go food number one, and I like the fish.

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<v Speaker 5>I miss my family on there. So those are probably

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<v Speaker 5>probably three to three of the things.

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<v Speaker 1>New Orleans is obviously the home of the Saints and

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<v Speaker 1>the Pelicans and the Sugar Bowl. They frequently get Super

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<v Speaker 1>Bowls and Final Fours and things like that. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>ever have the opportunity to attend any of those type events.

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<v Speaker 5>I never got to attend the Super Bowl or anything

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<v Speaker 5>like that. I got the attend a few Saints games

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<v Speaker 5>when I was younger, and when the Super Bowl was

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<v Speaker 5>in New Orleans, I went to like the NFL experience

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<v Speaker 5>and stuff like that with my friends. I was in

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<v Speaker 5>high school, so it was super cool. But you know,

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<v Speaker 5>New Orleans is a city. We love our football we

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<v Speaker 5>love our sports and it's something that we pride ourselves on.

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<v Speaker 1>Or if my math is correct, you would have been

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<v Speaker 1>seven when Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans. Were you impacted

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<v Speaker 1>in any way?

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<v Speaker 5>My family was. I was actually living in Arizona. My

0:29:30.000 --> 0:29:32.520
<v Speaker 5>family they came all came down from New Orleans and

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<v Speaker 5>stayed with stayed with us, and it was pretty wild.

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<v Speaker 3>My cousins is going to school.

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<v Speaker 5>With me, and and it was it was definitely something

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<v Speaker 5>that was a tragedy, uh in the city. And you know,

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<v Speaker 5>it just shows the resilience of the of the people

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<v Speaker 5>in New Orleans. And you know how tough we are,

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<v Speaker 5>how how do people bounce back? And my uncle actually

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<v Speaker 5>he he stayed. I know many.

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<v Speaker 3>People that stayed in and helped save people.

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<v Speaker 5>And and and things like that. My uncle he owns

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<v Speaker 5>a boat dealership in New Orleans, so he was riding

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<v Speaker 5>through the city saving people on airboats and stuff, getting

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<v Speaker 5>them out their addicts.

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<v Speaker 3>So, you know, that was that was a scary, very

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<v Speaker 3>scary times.

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<v Speaker 5>But you know, I'm glad that, uh, you know a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of people the city was able to rebuild and

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<v Speaker 5>bounce back.

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<v Speaker 1>We're chatting with IRV Smith Junior. Your dad Earth's senior.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also an NFL tight end, first round draft pick

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<v Speaker 1>out of Notre Dame, had a great NFL career. You

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<v Speaker 1>were really young when he played. What have you learned

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<v Speaker 1>from others about IRV Smith Senior as a player.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you know, just as a kid growing up. I

0:30:35.600 --> 0:30:37.960
<v Speaker 5>don't really remember too much watching for my dad. So

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<v Speaker 5>the the memories that I have from him playing ball

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<v Speaker 5>and stuff is from from his friends, from his old teammates,

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<v Speaker 5>and from watching some of his films. So, I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>my dad he was he was definitely he was fast.

0:30:50.200 --> 0:30:52.800
<v Speaker 5>That's why I got a lot of my speed from

0:30:52.840 --> 0:30:57.920
<v Speaker 5>great hands, great physical blocker. And he always tells me

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<v Speaker 5>he wished he would have played in this in this

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<v Speaker 5>time time of football because.

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<v Speaker 3>You know back then there it was a lot more

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<v Speaker 3>ground and pound.

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<v Speaker 5>So you know, he he was a great a great player,

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<v Speaker 5>great leader, a great teammate and you know, somebody that

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<v Speaker 5>that his coaches and.

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<v Speaker 3>Teammates can rely on.

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<v Speaker 5>So you know, I try to model my game after that,

0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:20.360
<v Speaker 5>and you know, take take anything I can from him.

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<v Speaker 1>What former teammates did you meet?

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<v Speaker 5>I've met a lot of his former teammates, Willie Roath,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean it goes, the list goes on. I mean

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<v Speaker 5>he played for for eight years in the league and

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<v Speaker 5>for a Notre Dame, and so just growing up meeting

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<v Speaker 5>so many different guys that he played with and just

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<v Speaker 5>hearing all the different stories.

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<v Speaker 3>It's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Did having a dad who played in the NFL make

0:31:45.560 --> 0:31:46.360
<v Speaker 1>that your dream?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it definitely did.

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<v Speaker 5>Just growing up seeing his football is around the house,

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<v Speaker 5>his helmets around the house, I put his helmets and

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<v Speaker 5>stuff on. Any any questions, like any anything like that

0:31:57.000 --> 0:31:59.240
<v Speaker 5>I could pick his brain on about football, I would.

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<v Speaker 5>And I just play Madden and stuff all day, playing

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<v Speaker 5>video games when I wasn't at school or at practice,

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<v Speaker 5>basketball practice.

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<v Speaker 3>Just trying to learn the game as much as I can.

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<v Speaker 1>You played college football at Alabama. What was Nick Saban's

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<v Speaker 1>recruiting pitch?

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<v Speaker 3>Coach Saban?

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<v Speaker 1>He was.

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<v Speaker 5>He was a great coach, great recruiter as well. Coach

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<v Speaker 5>Burns out of he was a running back, running backs coach.

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<v Speaker 5>He was from New Orleans as well, so he was

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<v Speaker 5>he was kind of hard on me. I was actually

0:32:27.920 --> 0:32:31.320
<v Speaker 5>committed at Texas A and M and I ended up decommitting.

0:32:31.360 --> 0:32:33.680
<v Speaker 5>And you know when I decommitted, I hit up coach

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<v Speaker 5>Burns and was like, you know, are y'all so interested?

0:32:36.240 --> 0:32:39.160
<v Speaker 5>And you know, they for sure were, and coach Coach

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<v Speaker 5>Saban opened me with with open arms. He actually came

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<v Speaker 5>to my high school, him and Coach Burns, and I

0:32:44.160 --> 0:32:47.960
<v Speaker 5>was pretty historic, you know, just everybody from my school

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<v Speaker 5>was kind of going crazy. And then when I actually

0:32:51.600 --> 0:32:54.280
<v Speaker 5>got the band my offer Coach Burns, I came to

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<v Speaker 5>one of my practices with like a camera recorder and

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<v Speaker 5>basically just came recorded me the whole practice and then

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<v Speaker 5>ended up bringing it back to Coach Saban and they

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<v Speaker 5>offered me a few days later.

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<v Speaker 1>In your second year at Alabama, the Crimson Tide won

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<v Speaker 1>a national championship and overtime victory over Georgia. What are

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<v Speaker 1>your most vivid memories of that win?

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<v Speaker 5>That game was? It was amazing just all of the

0:33:17.480 --> 0:33:20.480
<v Speaker 5>things that went into that. You know, it's a NAZA championship,

0:33:20.560 --> 0:33:24.720
<v Speaker 5>last game of the year. So when when Tuwak went

0:33:24.760 --> 0:33:28.280
<v Speaker 5>back and dropped that pass in the Smitty on that

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<v Speaker 5>game win a touchdown, it was it was crucial and overtime,

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<v Speaker 5>And what I remember most was after the touchdown, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>running trying to chase after Smitty and I ran over

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<v Speaker 5>the cameraman. Uh, he had got in a way he

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<v Speaker 5>was he was trying to get that shot and I

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<v Speaker 5>just ran him clean over and I ain't looked back.

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<v Speaker 3>So that was That was one of my favorite memories.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, part of your job is getting pancakes, so you

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<v Speaker 1>got one, that for sure. So after three years at Alabama,

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<v Speaker 1>you declared for the NFL Draft. You were a second

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<v Speaker 1>round draft picked by the Minnesota Vikings. So much hard

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<v Speaker 1>work goes into that moment. What was your draft experience like.

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<v Speaker 5>Of my draft experience, it was it was the biggest blessing,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, just just having my family all there with me,

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<v Speaker 5>my friends, and you know, everybody that was there for me,

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<v Speaker 5>supported me through through all of those years. And you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I ended up falling out of the first round and uh,

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<v Speaker 5>in the second round, I didn't really know who was

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<v Speaker 5>gonna pick me in Minnesota. Ended up getting a call

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<v Speaker 5>from Minnesota, and it was it was a dream from true.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't get to pick the team that drafts you,

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<v Speaker 1>but you do get to choose the team when you

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<v Speaker 1>become a free agent, and that was the case this

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<v Speaker 1>past year when you signed with Cincinnati. Did you enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>free agency or did you find it stressful.

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<v Speaker 3>I enjoyed it, you know, watching kind of watching film

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<v Speaker 3>and stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>Last year when I was going through just going through

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<v Speaker 5>the season and when free agency opened up, kind of

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<v Speaker 5>got to pick which you know, got the pick which

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<v Speaker 5>team I wanted to go to that was interested in.

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<v Speaker 5>And Cincinnati coach Taylor he was he was hard on me,

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, just let me know that you know

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<v Speaker 5>that that this team they want me and I can.

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<v Speaker 5>I can bring a lot and add a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>value to this team and help help us win a championship. So,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean that stuck out to me and I was

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<v Speaker 5>something that was true to my core. You know, I

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<v Speaker 5>want to I want to win. I've always been a

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<v Speaker 5>part of winning teams, and I wanted to come here

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<v Speaker 5>and show that you know, I'm a winner and I

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<v Speaker 5>can help this team win.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's do some wild card topics now with

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<v Speaker 1>IRV Smith Junior. Who is your all time favorite athlete

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<v Speaker 1>in any sport?

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<v Speaker 3>All time favorite athlete?

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<v Speaker 5>I have to go either Kobe Bryant or Carmelo Anthony.

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<v Speaker 1>Basketball guy.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, basketball. It's hard to pick out of those two.

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<v Speaker 5>If I had to pick one and have to probably

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<v Speaker 5>be Kobe.

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<v Speaker 1>Though I went to Syracuse. Carmelo would have been a

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<v Speaker 1>good pick. But that's okay. What do you like to

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<v Speaker 1>spend your money on.

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<v Speaker 5>I like to take care of my nephews. I like

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<v Speaker 5>to play some video games. I like cars, things like that.

0:35:57.800 --> 0:36:00.200
<v Speaker 5>I like to travel a lot, so I said in

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<v Speaker 5>the off season, taking taking some trips with my family.

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<v Speaker 5>I try to save money as much as possible. But

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<v Speaker 5>you know, of course, uh, you know, you gotta you

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<v Speaker 5>gotta spend a little, so say as much as I can,

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<v Speaker 5>just taking trips and eating too.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have a favorite trip you've taken so far?

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<v Speaker 5>Favorite trip? I went to Jamaica this off season. That

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<v Speaker 5>was a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 3>The Bahamas, Turks and Caicos. I like the I like

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<v Speaker 3>the Islands.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't blame yet other than professional athlete. Have you

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<v Speaker 1>had any other full or part time jobs. No.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been dedicated to to sports.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean that's been my grind every weekend, basketball tournaments,

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<v Speaker 5>football games, stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I was blessed my mom. She she put in.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot of work to bring me, be able to

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<v Speaker 5>bring me to practices and games and stuff, and be

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<v Speaker 5>able to support me so I could I could continue

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<v Speaker 5>to follow my dream.

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<v Speaker 3>So no, never had a full time job. I you know,

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<v Speaker 3>whatever I can.

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<v Speaker 5>And to help when I was younger, help earn a

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<v Speaker 5>little money or you know whatever I could do, but

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<v Speaker 5>not a full time job.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there anything very few people know about you? Such

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<v Speaker 1>as a hidden talent, a phobia, anything along those lines.

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<v Speaker 5>For the most part, I love football, love basketball, I

0:37:19.360 --> 0:37:20.000
<v Speaker 5>love sports.

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<v Speaker 3>I love to hang out with my family, like video games.

0:37:23.440 --> 0:37:26.959
<v Speaker 5>I like the fish, hang out with my girl, those

0:37:27.000 --> 0:37:27.680
<v Speaker 5>type of things.

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<v Speaker 1>Last thing, and this one's kind of deep. If you

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<v Speaker 1>could meet anybody in history, living or deceased athlete, entertainer, statesman,

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<v Speaker 1>whoever it might be, who would that person be?

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<v Speaker 5>It have to be somebody real smart, I say, like

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<v Speaker 5>Albert Einstein or something, or maybe Martin Luther King. I'd

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<v Speaker 5>say Martin Luther King. That's number one.

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<v Speaker 1>Either way, would have been a very interesting conversation. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure I appreciate your time. Best of luck the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the year, sir.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

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