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Speaker 2: From Fudro Media. It's Latino Usa.

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Speaker 1: I'm Maria nor Josa today the concert that historians will

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Speaker 1: be talking about in fifty years.

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Speaker 2: Because it made history.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I'm talking about Bad Bunny's iconic residency in Puerto Rico.

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Speaker 1: What it means that Benito celebrates Borriquas with the entire world.

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Speaker 1: Now Bad Bunny has been the most streamed artist on

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Speaker 1: Spotify for three consecutive years. He is also the first

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Speaker 1: artist to top the Billboard charts with a Spanish album,

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Speaker 1: and he was the first Latino to headline Coachella. Now

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Speaker 1: those are only a few of the records that Bad

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Speaker 1: Bunny is broken. Arguably he's the biggest star.

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Speaker 1: I'm mcgonne and well, most artists, when they're on top

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Speaker 1: of the world like that, they tour it. They go

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Speaker 1: But bat Bunny subverted that script. Instead, he did something

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Speaker 1: never done before. He put on a three month, thirty

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Speaker 1: day residency in his homeland of Puerto Rico, a choice

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Speaker 1: that was deliberate and in part because it worried him

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Speaker 1: that ice would be outside of his concerts. The title

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Speaker 1: of the residency no mikhiro iveki, I don't want to

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Speaker 1: leave here. So today a special episode of Latino USA

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Speaker 1: with the creators of La Barega Labrega is our podcast

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Speaker 1: here at Futuro Studios that's all about Puerto Rican identity

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Speaker 1: and Labrega is gearing up for its third seasons come

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Speaker 1: in soon, and to give you a preview, our team

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Speaker 1: is here to get into Benito Bad Monna La Vega's

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Speaker 1: co creator and host Alana Casanova, Virgess, producer Ezekiel Rodriguez,

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Speaker 1: Andino editor Laura Perez, and our executive editor here at Puturo,

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Speaker 1: Maria Garcia. Well, they all cut together in San Juan,

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Speaker 1: Puerto Rico, and they shared their experiences about the historic residency.

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Speaker 1: And just so you know, dear listener, parts of this

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Speaker 2: It's okay, you'll get it.

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Speaker 1: Let's listen to the conversation about Benito Bad.

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Speaker 2: Bundy.

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Speaker 3: Oracla.

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Speaker 4: We're here specifically in Santurday and we actually have like

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Speaker 4: and we're having fun. And the first thing that we

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Speaker 4: were talking about this we did go. We did see it,

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Speaker 4: but at different times. Maria, it's your time, because you're

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Speaker 4: you're the closest to Bernito. You saw it very very

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Speaker 5: Yeah, a couple of days ago. I still feel like

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Speaker 5: This was my fourth time seeing Benito. I've been like

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Speaker 5: closely following his career since my cousin, who was a

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Speaker 5: different artist than when he started. Ala we were talking

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Speaker 5: about a few days ago, was very dare I say horny?

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Speaker 5: I think, And there's still a lot of that, you

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Speaker 3: So what I want to do now is go to Lauda.

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Speaker 4: You want to see him like in the middle after Atlanta, right,

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Speaker 4: and I know LA and I Laudio Porto Rico confession time,

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Speaker 6: That's how I define myself. I say, I don't listen

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Speaker 7: Terms of the musicality of what we're experiencing at the show.

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Speaker 7: I was struck by the moments that Benito is not

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Speaker 7: And when he finally comes out, he's dressed in all white,

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Speaker 7: Starts out and it's very powerful and spare on stage,

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Speaker 7: and it feels like this performance to your point about

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Speaker 7: what we experienced, but it feels like his taste, maybe

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Speaker 7: you know, it's like Benito and friends, like he brings

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Speaker 4: To add a little bit that when that happens, he's

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Speaker 7: Right right, and it is like a hangel, you know,

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Speaker 7: It's fine, I'm gonna go get a drink real quick,

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Speaker 7: you know, like that whole thing happens, and I think

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Speaker 7: it is like it's a sign of maturity and also

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Speaker 3: Guy or not, But it is very feels that way.

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Speaker 7: It's very old message, it's very endearing and with no

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Speaker 6: But I think it's it has a little bit to

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Speaker 6: I feel like all those artists and athletes and everyone

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Speaker 6: think it's like he's sharing all of that and it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 6: This is this is what the whole experience.

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Speaker 5: There's something that feels so genuine about the way he

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Speaker 5: many moments in the concert where he talks about identity

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Speaker 5: and even if he and his sons right where he says, yes,

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Speaker 5: you know Pere la Lena. A lazy, sort of simplistic

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Speaker 5: But the thing is, if you followed him for the

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Speaker 5: he's grown, he's learned, and that's come manifesting in his

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Speaker 5: He's showing his cards in a much more explicit way

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Speaker 6: It actually feels like enough. For me. It's not him,

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Speaker 6: It's just that I cannot turn down my cynicism.

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Speaker 3: Now that we're invoking cynicism.

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Speaker 4: I had, like this golden opportunity which I was not

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Speaker 4: even thinking about going to this concert because again I

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Speaker 4: Kind of like an out of body experience, like you're

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Speaker 4: criticizing him like constantly, just because they didn't like that

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Speaker 4: all this is sad that we have this happening here

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Speaker 4: because you know he's too horny.

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Speaker 3: We hate horny people.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a break and coming up on Latino us

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Speaker 1: say it's not just bad bunny sexuality that gets him criticized.

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Speaker 1: Stay with us, Yes, hey, we're back. Before the break,

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Speaker 1: the La Brega team Alana Casanova, Burgess is A, Guiel

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Speaker 1: their experiences at the Bad Bunny Residency in Porto Rico,

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Speaker 1: and this time is a gill is going to start

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Speaker 4: One of the criticisms, which was for me very cynical,

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Speaker 4: It's and it's very problematic because we also do like

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Speaker 3: It's a weird day, but.

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Speaker 4: It's celebrating Concita, right, It's like the celebration the day

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Speaker 5: More conceptual show than he's ever done. There are more

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Speaker 4: We can't spoil stuff because this is before, but there's

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Speaker 1: Bad Bunny and the team at La Brega are all

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Speaker 4: Benito says, this thing, which I think is like the

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Speaker 6: Lit the time, Like that's how Pedro got there. He

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Speaker 5: You know. He is making his art for Puerto Ricans.

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Speaker 5: And then he's saying, and if you want to come

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Speaker 5: I think so many people, especially who come from communities

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Speaker 5: To me, that's like inherently subversive, inherently political, and very

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Speaker 1: You can get an extended version of this episode on

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Speaker 1: Futuro Plus.

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Speaker 2: Oh my God, It's so worth it.

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Speaker 1: Also watch out for season three of La Brega It's

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Speaker 1: coming soon, definitely being John's season one and season two.

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Speaker 1: Our episode this week was produced by Sam Leads Ezeguil

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Speaker 1: Fernanda Echavarri is our managing editor.

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Speaker 1: and I are executive producers and I'm your host Maria Josa.

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