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Speaker 1: on YouTube. All right, well, hold on to your hats,

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Speaker 1: because I mean really, when I saw today's story, they said,

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Speaker 1: his job? It turns out the answer was about six hours.

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Speaker 1: So if you remember a week ago, pretty big story,

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Speaker 1: Pablo Tory. Now, who is your source for everything? Bill Belichick,

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Speaker 1: Jordan Hudson and the NFL and the NFL Players Association

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Speaker 1: being in cahoots, had the story a week ago that

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Speaker 1: a big bombshell story that the NFL and the NFLPA

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Speaker 1: worked together to keep salaries down in big contracts after

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Speaker 1: the Deshaun Watson contract was agreed to by the Browns,

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Speaker 1: where Jimmy Hassel decides, I'm desperate for a quarterback. I'll

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Speaker 1: give this guy two hundred and forty million dollars in guarantee.

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Speaker 1: All of it. That upset everybody around the league.

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Speaker 4: And the many were vocal about it.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Deshaun Watson, Wait wait a minute, And as it

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Speaker 1: turns out, what Pablo Tory was able to unearth, the

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Speaker 1: NFL the NFLPA after that was over, according to reports,

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Speaker 1: worked together to keep guaranteed money. And this isn't an

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Speaker 1: era in which quarterbacks like Lamar Jackson and Joe Burrow

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Speaker 1: they have gotten more money? Could they have pushed the

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Speaker 1: the NFL the NFLPA were working together on this. When

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Speaker 1: this story broke, I said, they gotta get rid of everybody.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's gotta be fired. This is you're supposed to be

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Speaker 1: working for the players. You can't be working in cahoots

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Speaker 1: with the owners. They're trying to beat you in every

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Speaker 1: collective bargaining agreement there is. You can't sit here and say, oh,

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Speaker 1: And a lot of players didn't know about it, and

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Speaker 1: But a week has gone by and I thought, Okay,

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Speaker 1: Then today Pablo Tory found out another podcast right breaking

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Speaker 1: this story that there was an arbitration ruling in February

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Speaker 1: in accordance to her grievance that the NFL won. What

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Speaker 1: Treader that encouraged running backs to exaggerate injuries to increase

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Speaker 1: leverage during contract disputes. Whoa, whoa, wha wait what what? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because running backs have very little leverage in contract disputes,

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Speaker 1: This is not NFL NFLPA, you know together, This is

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Speaker 5: We've always talked about the disconnect from even in the

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Speaker 5: at different stages of your career, different completely different levels

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Speaker 5: Sports Radio studios as I say this, Demor Smith. I

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Speaker 5: haven't read his book yet. So is it better that

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Speaker 5: But certainly here we had the reports of conflict of interest,

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Speaker 5: all of this trying to get everybody together. There's a

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Speaker 5: It's they'd said the quiet part out loud. After the

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Speaker 5: But that was really no secret.

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Speaker 5: There were a lot of hand ringing and and upset

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Speaker 5: during a time where he was trying to take some

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Speaker 5: We got a quarterback and that didn't work out quite

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Speaker 5: so well, and so many levels, but it's the The

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Speaker 5: union has long been a thing you and I, so

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Speaker 5: it's always been problematic, always been a disconnect. You talk

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Speaker 5: So many a guys, so many guys were ignorant of

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Speaker 5: the purposes of this conversation with the NFL, right, guys

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Speaker 5: Why do you think the Sam Bradford Giant novelty check

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Speaker 5: So yeah, the fact that you've got leadership with more

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Speaker 1: You know. And this look for it to be a story.

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Speaker 1: We tell you how big it is, how big a

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Speaker 1: if you worked for a union, right, and and you

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Speaker 1: know many people have been I've been in unions before.

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Speaker 1: This is a union that and said, yeah, yeah, we

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Speaker 1: And then it gets out that, oh, other guys were

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Speaker 1: how embarrassing that is. If you're you join a union,

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Speaker 1: And I get a lawyer, or I get a battle fought,

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Speaker 5: So now it's the how quickly can we get montages

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Speaker 1: obviously the Angel Rees Caitlin Clark debate. Hey, let's pit

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Speaker 1: women against each other? Right, Like, why do we do that?

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Speaker 1: But the biggest thing that I'll tell you is is

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Speaker 1: you want Caitlin Clark to be as much a part

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Speaker 1: of this as possible. Of course I would say, listen, hey,

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Speaker 1: I know you want to coach, but instead you're gonna

435
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Speaker 1: be on the air with us. You're gonna be on

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Speaker 1: the broadcast. You're gonna be in the booth and we're

437
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Speaker 1: gonna be talking to you the entire time. That's what

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Speaker 1: we want you to do. That's what's gonna help the

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Speaker 1: w NBA. Is it really gonna help that you're gonna

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Speaker 1: get a cutaway of Caitlyn Clark helping to coach because

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Speaker 1: you know she's gonna be out on the floor like

442
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Speaker 1: she is the coach, right, you know she's gonna be

443
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Speaker 1: out there arguing like she is actually coaching the team.

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Speaker 4: She's gonna get thrown out.

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Speaker 1: But but no, but I mean, really, okay, hey, you

446
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Speaker 1: really want to do it. You're on the broadcast, and

447
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Speaker 1: not that it's the same thing. It would have been

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Speaker 1: an All Star game. You know, obviously Caitlin Clark would

449
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Speaker 1: get a lot of minutes, but it's a lot of

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Speaker 1: players going in and out of the game and coming

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Speaker 1: back in. But you want her to be front and set.

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Speaker 1: You put her on during the three point shooting contest,

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Speaker 1: you put her on during the game. She is she

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Speaker 1: has a headset on and you are showing her on

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Speaker 1: TV while she's watching it like this is what you're

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Speaker 1: doing for the All Star Game. She's not playing but

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Speaker 1: she is, it's gonna be she's gonna get more screen

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Speaker 1: time and you're gonna hear from her more than if

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Speaker 1: she actually was playing. And it doesn't matter if she's

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Speaker 1: saying anything incredible. It doesn't matter if she's you know, saying, oh,

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Speaker 1: this place, she stinks. I lit her up for thirty

462
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Speaker 1: last time we played it. It doesn't matter. But just

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Speaker 1: having her there is gonna get people to the to

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Speaker 1: the broadcast. I would say, yeah, I know you want

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Speaker 1: to coach, but you gotta be on the broadcast.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, life gives you lemon's do your best to make

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Speaker 5: some lemonade. Tell her nothing's off off off limits. I'm

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Speaker 5: gonna tee you up about officiating.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's all we're gonna talk about. That's all kind of.

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Speaker 4: Officiating on you.

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Speaker 5: And I'm gonna read you some quotes by some of

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Speaker 5: your colleagues that are playing in this year game right now,

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Speaker 5: and you can shout them out as we as we

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Speaker 5: go through. But yeah, you've got to figure out a

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Speaker 5: way to involve her, because it's all about figuring out

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Speaker 5: how to get more casual folks are peripheral folks to

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Speaker 5: give you a few extra minutes diehards were already gonna

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Speaker 5: be there regardless of Caitlin Clark's appearance last year into

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Speaker 5: the league, this year, whatever. You've had this exponential growth

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Speaker 5: and this was gonna be a big topic for you

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Speaker 5: and a big opportunity to push forward show proof of

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Speaker 5: concept again to the marketability on the bigger stage and

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Speaker 5: keep pet catapulting.

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Speaker 4: We talked about it.

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Speaker 5: With the TV deal already signed, that's great, but it's

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Speaker 5: all the ancillary extras that you're still pushing for and

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Speaker 5: to you know, give, you know, make good kind of

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Speaker 5: moments to those people that are backing you and coming

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Speaker 5: to the fray. And part of that is the show itself,

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Speaker 5: and Caitlin Clark is the show. Take nothing away from

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Speaker 5: the rest of these women. They're doing a hell of

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Speaker 5: a job and we've chronicled it our entire time here

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Speaker 5: at Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 4: But we know that the stakes have raised.

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Speaker 1: And you know, it's funny to go to this part

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Speaker 1: of the topic now that I'm saying, hey, here's this

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Speaker 1: big together moment right that the NWNBA was looking forward

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Speaker 1: to and now it's out the window. But get her

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Speaker 1: on the broadcast, right it. But it plays into it so.

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Speaker 5: I have to say this, but I really well, it

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Speaker 5: was a big get together the moment.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, look they did it. Look WNBA. Yeah, in advance

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Speaker 1: of the All Star Game. As we've heard over the

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Speaker 1: course of the past few days, they're getting set for

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Speaker 1: their new collective bargaining agreement. As we heard from many players,

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Speaker 1: they said, hey, this is going to be a spicy negotiation.

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Speaker 1: They want more. They know how marketable the league is now.

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Speaker 1: And they had their first face to face meeting today

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Speaker 1: in Indianapolis, but they didn't get any close to do

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Speaker 1: a new deal. The WNBA is not happy the so

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Speaker 1: the players are not happy. The current CBA is going

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Speaker 1: to expire at the end of this year, so they

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Speaker 1: really have the clock ticking to get it done. So

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Speaker 1: so far day one of the meetings and it didn't

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Speaker 1: go great. Okay, So now that being said, right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I know I feel kind of petty at this point,

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Speaker 1: but this is what I this is what I really want,

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Speaker 1: is that you know, with this happening right now and

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Speaker 1: with the with the WNBA, the players Union trying to

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Speaker 1: find this. If I'm Caitlin Clark and you know that

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Speaker 1: they are going to try to put me front and center.

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Speaker 1: You know they're gonna want to talk to me. They're

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Speaker 1: going to want to make me part of negotiations. If

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Speaker 1: I'm Caitlin Clark. I find everybody in that room that

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Speaker 1: I know is not a fan of mine or is

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Speaker 1: hesitant to give me credit for the success for whatever reason,

527
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Speaker 1: because it doesn't let them justify their jobs. It's jealousy.

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Speaker 1: I want to stand up and I say, okay, here,

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Speaker 1: weet before we get down to business. I want to

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Speaker 1: say one thing. Everybodybody listening. Yeah, yeah, oh now you

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Speaker 1: want my help. Oh now I'm great. Right now I'm

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Speaker 1: the league. Oh now I'm so good. Now you can't

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Speaker 1: wait to have me out there? No, now, I do

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Speaker 1: so much. I thought it was everybody else. Why don't

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Speaker 1: you call Angel. Get Angel in here and do this.

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Speaker 1: Get Kelsey Plumbing here to do things. Get Brianna Stewart

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Speaker 1: to come here, Get all these players, get Cheryl Reeve

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Speaker 1: to come in here and help out. I'm just one player.

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Speaker 1: What could I possibly want? I make sure I make

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Speaker 1: eye contact with everybody I know feels that way, just

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Speaker 1: so I get that. Okay, now, get that out of

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Speaker 1: the way, tension breaker. I feel good. It was just

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Speaker 1: it was just building up for me. Now I'm read. Now,

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Speaker 1: now let's have negotiations. But I want you to know.

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Speaker 1: Oh now you want me. Now I'm now suddenly. Oh

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Speaker 1: look how valuable we are because I'm here in the league.

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Speaker 1: And now you want now you want me to help

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Speaker 1: make everybody rich? Oh okay, now you got just understand that.

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Speaker 1: Now you want I really want to see and I

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Speaker 1: want to be a fly on the wall for that.

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Speaker 5: And say what time does the team plane leave as

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Speaker 5: opposed to when do you fly out of terminal fighting?

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Speaker 1: Hey, we can leave here one of two ways on

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Speaker 1: a charter flight, or you guys could book it yourself.

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Speaker 1: Here you go Expedia. I'll give you guys the phone

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Speaker 1: number right now, go ahead, try to get out of here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: The the estimate right now from Bloomberg is that w

559
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Speaker 5: NBA players receive an estimated nine point three percent of

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Speaker 5: lead revenue. Now, it's been well chronicled the losses that

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Speaker 5: have been sustained through the years. But now you're in

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Speaker 5: a new era of health and expansion growth. You see

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Speaker 5: what it costs you to bring in a new franchise. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: you are you gonna give her a crown? That says

565
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Speaker 5: queen petty on it. She's gonna steal one from Chelsea

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Speaker 5: Green of the WWE. And you know she only come

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Speaker 5: walking in with a giant bedazzled hat.

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Speaker 7: You know, Now, I go, I gotta say, I gotta

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Speaker 7: say because yes, generally, generally when you are petty about stuff,

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Speaker 7: you regret it in the end.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, you know what? It was an itch I

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Speaker 1: had describe at the end, I'm like, Wow, would I

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Speaker 1: do that over again? No, No, this is something we're

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Speaker 1: absolutely be petty, absolutely one hundred be one hundred percent petty.

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Speaker 1: Go Okay, So now because you're not really being petty,

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Speaker 1: you're kind of saying, oh wait, so which is just

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Speaker 1: let me know? Just let me know what I am. Am

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Speaker 1: I really really important to the league or is it

579
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Speaker 1: everybody else and I'm being overrated and all this? Just

580
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Speaker 1: let me know what it is. Just let me know

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Speaker 1: where you need me to be for this, right because honestly,

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Speaker 1: and I would feel really good about that. I feel Ah,

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Speaker 1: I'm glad I got that out. All right, Great, now

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Speaker 1: let's get down to business. Okay, Way, Cheryl Reeve, why

585
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Speaker 1: are you leaving? Why?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: I didn't mean yu come on just because I traded

588
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Speaker 1: you as a coach doesn't mean where you guys go

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Speaker 1: or are you guys going? I really I would like

590
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Speaker 1: to see that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they want to do a luxury tax situation for

592
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Speaker 5: the salary cap and everything else is what the league's proposing,

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Speaker 5: much like the NBA model about yeah, Caitlin Clark being

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Speaker 5: in the room where it happens. I want to know

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Speaker 5: who the other team reps are, Like, we know they're

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Speaker 5: forty for Martin's report, but who.

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Speaker 4: Are the people that are charged?

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Speaker 5: Because this coming out of what we were talking about

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Speaker 5: with the NFL, I guarantee it dann Tee a bunch

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Speaker 5: of those guys that were team reps, and certainly the

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Speaker 5: guys that they were elected to the board, they.

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Speaker 4: Ain't gonna be there by the end of the week. Wnba. Hey,

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Speaker 4: history is watching you here.

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Speaker 1: Oh man exit? How about a Fresca exit swollen Dome?

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Speaker 1: The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon,

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Speaker 1: t I'm gonna find out what's trending in the wide

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Speaker 1: world of sports from Martin Wisse and what do you

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Speaker 1: got for us?

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Speaker 3: That's right, Mike Harmon, you said it just a second ago.

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Speaker 3: There were more than forty w NBA players gathered Thursday

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Speaker 3: for a meeting between the WNBA and the Players Association.

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Speaker 3: It was the biggest in person player turnout in union

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Speaker 3: history during CBA talks, and the first that they've had

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Speaker 3: thus far. The two sides left with no resolution. I

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Speaker 3: imagine ANC totally the biggest one hat to have been

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Speaker 3: during COVID twenty twenty that was on zoom. So that's

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Speaker 3: why they clarify as the in person actually covered some

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Speaker 3: of those meetings. NFLPA Executive Director Lloyd Howell announced that

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Speaker 3: he'll be stepping down from the position, stating quote, it's

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Speaker 3: clear my leadership has become a distraction. Submit reports that

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Speaker 3: Howell played a part in a collusion ruling being hidden

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Speaker 3: and Gron guaranteeing contracts. Hall also had a conflict of

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Speaker 3: interest with private equity groups who have been granted permission

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Speaker 3: to buy parts of NFL teams. Adam Schefter is reporting

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Speaker 3: that this decision for Howell to step down was his

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Speaker 3: decision and his loan. Nine times NBA all stared Damian

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Speaker 3: Lillard finalizing a three year, forty two million dollar contract

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Speaker 3: to return to the Portland Trailblazers. That deal expected to

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Speaker 3: include a player option in twenty twenty seven, twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: eight and a no trade clause.

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Speaker 1: Telor Star TJ.

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Speaker 3: Watte become the highest paid quarterback in the NFL history,

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Speaker 3: and not for the first time in his career, but

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Speaker 3: for the second, which spawned JJ Watt to put on

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Speaker 3: Instagram never touching my wallet again.

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Speaker 1: Didn't he say, Hey, if this guy even makes me

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Speaker 1: reach my wallet, next time we.

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Speaker 3: Go talk with the watch, that reaching for my wallet.

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Speaker 3: And you know what, my little brother's hundred three year,

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Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty three million dollar extension, one hundred

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Speaker 3: and eight of that fully guaranteed. I'd be okay with

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Speaker 3: that forty one million dollars a year. You can buy

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Speaker 3: me lunch, anybody lunch for that matter. At the Open,

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Speaker 3: there's a five way tie at the top of the

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Speaker 3: leader boy that includes Matt Fitzpatrick Harrits English who are

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Speaker 3: all four under par. Scottie Scheffler is one shot back,

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Speaker 3: Roy McElroy three shots back. Phil Mickelson had a one

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Speaker 3: hundred seventy for his best round at an Open Championships

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty six. We resumed that in about two hours,

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Speaker 3: about two hours back to you guys.

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Speaker 1: Very good Thank you very much. The Jason Smithzer with

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Speaker 1: Mike Harmon live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios coming

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Speaker 1: up next. Hey, it's not quite sports news, but big news. Hey,

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Speaker 1: if you're up now and you're listening to the radio,

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Speaker 1: you're doing thing. Yeah, this news affects you. We got that.

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Speaker 1: Plus we remember an absolute legend coming up next. Right here,

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Speaker 1: Jason and Mike, you're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

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Speaker 2: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven

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Speaker 2: pm Pacific, Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon. Uh, well,

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Speaker 1: we'll remember an absolute legend coming up in a couple

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Speaker 1: of minutes. But look, the biggest story in entertainment over

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Speaker 1: the last few hours, The Stephen Colbear Show is ending. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Seas is pulling the plug on the Late Show and yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: it's it's done.

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Speaker 4: He's done.

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Speaker 5: Well, they are actually doing that to the uh yeah,

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Speaker 5: to the time slot in the concept.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that and that's the thing is that, you know,

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Speaker 1: you talk about being ahead of the curve right this

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Speaker 1: season on Hacks, Right, the Hacks is one of the

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Speaker 1: best comedies that this season wasn't quite as good a season,

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Speaker 1: but the Jean Smart Henna Einbinder, it's a phenomenal comedy.

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Speaker 1: It's and Geen Smart is a Vegas comedian who is

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Speaker 1: trying to you know, in her seventies, who still is

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Speaker 1: always wanted to be a host in late night television

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Speaker 1: and she didn't get a chance. She was kept out

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Speaker 1: of the chair by by men on the course of

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Speaker 1: her career. I mean, it's phenomenal show, and it's funny,

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Speaker 1: and it's it's you know, no matter what generation you are,

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Speaker 1: there's stuff there for you. It's just really well done.

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Speaker 1: And the whole thing is she is you know she's

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Speaker 1: up for well, I won't ruin it if we haven't

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Speaker 1: seen the show. She's up. She eventually gets up for

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Speaker 1: the job of late night host. Right, she's up for

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Speaker 1: the job a late night host, and she finds out

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Speaker 1: that it's not really that she's competing against anybody, it's

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Speaker 1: that the network that is that she's doing it for

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Speaker 1: is either gonna have her do the late night show

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Speaker 1: and continue on or cancel the show all together and

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Speaker 1: get out of the late night business and put something

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Speaker 1: else on the air. Then and it was like and

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Speaker 1: it was a shock. It's like, hey, we're not choosing

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Speaker 1: somebody else. It's either you do it or you know,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna end it. We're gonna end the show. And

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Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, I remember when that happened, saying, I

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Speaker 1: wonder how close that is. Network's already doing that, you know,

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Speaker 1: with the Leno thing that didn't work and they let

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Speaker 1: him go and now the whole different late night stuff

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Speaker 1: and fallon and and now how healthy is late night programming?

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Speaker 1: I wonder if if a company's ever really gonna do that,

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Speaker 1: And CBS is doing it right. They're they're ending the

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Speaker 1: franchise after thirty years on it. There's not gonna be

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Speaker 1: another late show after not a new host. They're ending

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Speaker 1: the franchise, and there's gonna be some other kind of

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Speaker 1: programming that goes there. And you know, I sit here

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Speaker 1: and go, boy, you know people that are up at

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Speaker 1: night and entertainment, And that's why you want to talk

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Speaker 1: about it here a bit, because you know people, if

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Speaker 1: you're up now, maybe you're watching the Late Show. You

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Speaker 1: watch it at some point or you watch the clips

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Speaker 1: the next day. It's it's really sad to see that, Hey,

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Speaker 1: here's a show that that gave that that you know,

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Speaker 1: gains a lot of attention. But for whatever reason, hey

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Speaker 1: and and probably monetary, it's just not worth it for

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Speaker 1: us to be in this business anymore. So, Yeah, we're

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Speaker 1: not going to have the Late Show anymore. You have

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Speaker 1: to wonder how how long till other eleven thirty shows

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Speaker 1: are no longer going to be on the air. There,

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Speaker 1: that's a scary it's a scary moment today.

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Speaker 5: Well, something we've talked about a lot, right the changing

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Speaker 5: face of media, how people are consuming stuff. We talked

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Speaker 5: about a lot Tuesday with the All Star Game from

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Speaker 5: Major League Baseball that while you had your peak of

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Speaker 5: eight point one million viewers during the swing off, a

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Speaker 5: lot of what you were gonna get was trying to

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Speaker 5: figure out the traction of all of those huge moments

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Speaker 5: that went viral, from the Clayton Kershaw two thirty seven

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Speaker 5: interview that we played to guys getting hit by pitches,

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Speaker 5: to Freddie Freeman walking off, to all the in game

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Speaker 5: interviews of the other players, and the stand up to

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Speaker 5: cancer the ludicrous like you just had all of that,

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Speaker 5: and that's what Late Night has kind of become as well.

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Speaker 5: For a lot of these shows, you're seeing the clips

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Speaker 5: before it even hits their airing time. And Colbert in

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Speaker 5: his statement again Northwestern guys, I knew a guy that

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Speaker 5: wrote for the show for a while. They got two

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Speaker 5: hundred people working there. Yeah, that's a lot of people.

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Speaker 5: So there's a lot of people now looking for jobs.

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Speaker 5: But it also pulls back the curtain on you need

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Speaker 5: a two hundred people to do the show.

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Speaker 4: I just I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I haven't seen the depth chart and whatever.

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Speaker 5: Obviously I sit and watch for any semblance of an

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Speaker 5: extra quasi scene.

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Speaker 4: They'll get me at the end of the movie.

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Speaker 5: So I watch the hard work and all the people

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Speaker 5: that have been there, from the gaffer down to the

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Speaker 5: fifteen drivers on a set.

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Speaker 4: I respect them all. But to run that show two hundred.

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Speaker 5: People, wow, I mean, if that's legit, and that number

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Speaker 5: that he put out there is part of the like,

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Speaker 5: that's a lot of salaries, that's a lot of a

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Speaker 5: lot of process, And I feel for all those people,

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Speaker 5: no question about it.

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Speaker 4: But you can understand where a network.

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Speaker 5: Might say, well, do we get the bang for the

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Speaker 5: buck anymore?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I mean that's a tough thing. It's a

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Speaker 1: tough thing to see, man, but great, hey, no matter

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Speaker 1: what side of the aisle you are down to, you know,

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Speaker 1: seeing something like this, it's like, here's another option that

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Speaker 1: is now not there because it's just not worth How

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Speaker 1: many people will blame Cordon even though oh yeah yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: yeah yeah, it's all yeah, it's all Cordon's fault. Yeah

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Speaker 1: he was. We're fine until he decided to leave and

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you know, all this different stuff

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Speaker 1: and being a top of tour buses with the Avengers.

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Speaker 1: Come on, man, we need stuff like that.

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Speaker 5: That's what it is, or it was something that you know,

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Speaker 5: his his staffing begat other issues. I don't know, but

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Speaker 5: he's returning to Broadway this this fall with Abby kind

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Speaker 5: of Alli and Patrick Harris Cats too, right, No, yeah, yeah, well,

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Speaker 5: I mean that would be funny.

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Speaker 4: I mean it's really trippy.

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Speaker 5: Like I don't smoke or do any of that, and

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Speaker 5: I really don't drink anymore, but I remember watching Cats.

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Speaker 5: It actually showed up in my timeline of something I

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Speaker 5: sat with the kids because they were moderately interested in

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Speaker 5: when it hit streaming, and we looked at each other, going,

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Speaker 5: what the hell are we watching? And I knew the play,

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Speaker 5: you know the play. I'd seen the musical many years ago,

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Speaker 5: and still even then I was going, what the hell

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Speaker 5: am I watching?

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Speaker 1: So there you go, Well there's your big thing, because

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Speaker 1: what the hell am I watching? Gets us to what

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Speaker 1: happened with Felix Baumbgardner, who passed away earlier today, dying

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Speaker 1: in a crash in Italy. Apparently he was in a

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Speaker 1: paraglider and had crashed into the side of a swimming pool.

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Speaker 1: It just sounds absolutely awful. But you remember Felix Boumdgarter

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Speaker 1: because he was the guy a decade ago who was

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Speaker 1: the skydiver who went all the way up in a

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Speaker 1: balloon twenty four miles above the earth and then did

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Speaker 1: that free fall. Yeah, and and was the became the

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Speaker 1: fastest person. It was at fastest person in the world,

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Speaker 1: you know, to the speed reached because he just free fell.

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Speaker 1: And then the hope was he'd be able to, you know,

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Speaker 1: pull his parachute and land very softly. But the worry

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Speaker 1: was that he could black out. And and as you're

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Speaker 1: falling to earth and we all watched this, and I

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Speaker 1: remember seeing this and seeing the video of him stepping

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Speaker 1: out to jump out and it was. I can still

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Speaker 1: see it. I can still see and my stomach just go,

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Speaker 1: oh my god. And I'm you know, seeing the video

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Speaker 1: of it again now after news that he passed away,

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Speaker 1: Like there's there's a million things. There's no price, there's

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Speaker 1: no money, no object, anything in the world you can

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Speaker 1: give me to say, hey, go do this. Even if

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Speaker 1: you could guarantee my safety, I guarantee you'll be safe.

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Speaker 1: I guarantee it no way. I mean, just see seeing

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Speaker 1: him look down at the Earth like it's colony and

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Speaker 1: gravity and he's just in this little Ballooney just walks out, Hey,

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Speaker 1: ready to go, got the red Bull logo on, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: jumping out and he's spinning, falling all the way to

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Speaker 1: Earth faster than anybody in history. Like I still vividly

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Speaker 1: remember this, and I can't get over it. I still can.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna see this the rest of my life. And

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Speaker 1: just to hear that he passed away earlier today, I mean,

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Speaker 1: this guy was a he was a daredevil, an extreme

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Speaker 1: athlete to the highest order. Felix Baumgardner.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there's some of that, you know, absolute respect for man.

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Speaker 5: I just couldn't write whether it was you're doing your

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Speaker 5: family considerations or you're just you know, self preservation. I

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Speaker 5: like walking fairly normally. I mean, my knees are not good,

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Speaker 5: but fine. I can't throw a ball. I've ripped up

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Speaker 5: my shoulder, but I don't know that.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's not doing anything, that's just life. And

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Speaker 4: so courting that stuff is curious to me.

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Speaker 5: And it's always a wonder of the human brain of

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Speaker 5: what prompts you to say yes and right. I've got

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Speaker 5: friends who say my kid's a daredevil, and then they

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Speaker 5: start describing how, you know, they're on mini cliffs and

834
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Speaker 5: they go hiking.

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Speaker 4: It's like, hey, I jumped off this rock? What was

836
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Speaker 4: it like a hundred? It was like one hundred?

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Speaker 5: Fet Like why my kid just felt like they wanted to, Like,

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Speaker 5: I just don't understand that, but I respect it.

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Speaker 1: Exit. How about a fresca exit? Swollen dome, rest and peace.

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Speaker 1: Felix Paumgartn, who passed away earlier today in an accident

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Speaker 1: in Italy. Coming up next. Hey, for everybody who's ever

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Speaker 1: wanted to go back to school, we may have a

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Speaker 1: story for you. It's coming up next right here. This

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Speaker 1: is Fox Sports Radar

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Speaker 4: Back to School, Back to School