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Speaker 1: Welcome into the huddle with Dave Wyman, Jake Keats, and

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Speaker 1: Stacy Ross. We're gonna look ahead to Week three game

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Speaker 1: against the Dallas Cowboys, but first take a very quick

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Speaker 1: look back at the win over the Patriots. It was

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Speaker 1: a thirty five to thirty win. Wilson twenty one of

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Speaker 1: twenty eight, two hundred and eighty eight yards, five touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: He's now got nine touchdowns over two weeks, just one interception.

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Speaker 1: Metcalf with an almost one hundred yard game ninety two

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Speaker 1: yards and a touchdown. Chris Carson had a receiving touchdown,

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Speaker 1: also had seventy two yards on the ground. Now, there

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Speaker 1: were two major injuries that we need to talk about.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to that, you know, next when we have

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Speaker 1: a Seahawks Dot Com reporter John Boyle on. But first,

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Speaker 1: let's just look at some of the good stuff. Let's

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Speaker 1: reflect on what was a fun win. Dave, what did

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Speaker 1: you see from the defense? You know we've we've been

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Speaker 1: harping a bit, but what did you see from the

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Speaker 1: defense that was encouraging? Well, they're able to make plays. Now,

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Speaker 1: I hate injuries. I hate when that happens, especially a

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Speaker 1: guy like Marquise Blair. So that's the thing that really

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Speaker 1: bothers me. But I thought LJ. Collier making that last play,

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Speaker 1: and then and then Bobby Wagner getting some penetration and

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Speaker 1: knocking off that guard. I mean, but you know LJ. Call,

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Speaker 1: you're seeing him make that play. That was and they

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Speaker 1: did it when they needed to because they'd had some

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Speaker 1: success running that play. They scored on a almost stand

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Speaker 1: up walking touchdown earlier in the game, and then there

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Speaker 1: this for football one on one, by the way, because

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Speaker 1: how could you not diagram the greatest play in what

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Speaker 1: five years? Right? I mean, that was the final play

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Speaker 1: of the of the game, and there were so many

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Speaker 1: guys involved in that. The thing that's discouraging, I guess

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Speaker 1: is the yardage. Seahawks have given up on defense, more

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Speaker 1: yardage than than anybody in the NFL. But they're they're

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Speaker 1: making enough plays and the run defense is better. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's some bright spots. But I just really discouraged, and

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Speaker 1: I won't dwell on it, but I'm really discouraged about

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Speaker 1: the Blair and the Irvin injury. Speaking of LJ. Collier,

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Speaker 1: so we'll get a chance to talk to him about

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Speaker 1: that goal line stop. Also just about his mindset, how

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Speaker 1: he feels physically heading into year two, Jake, what did

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Speaker 1: you see from the defense? And also I gotta ask

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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously Russell Wilson had an unbelievable day, near perfect,

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Speaker 1: I mean near perfect, and was even throwing the ball

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Speaker 1: away Dave, which you know Russell has has received criticism

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Speaker 1: for that or not doing more of that, and just

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Speaker 1: really doing a great job of taking care of the

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Speaker 1: football outside of the Greg Olson drop at the beginning

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Speaker 1: in the offense throwing five touchdown passes against one of

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Speaker 1: the best seconds in the NFL, a secondary that only

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Speaker 1: gave up four to wide receivers all season long in

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, Russell throws five into five different targets. I

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Speaker 1: mean that is truly remarkable. So, I mean, he was

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Speaker 1: who was covering him the entire game, last year's defensive

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Speaker 1: Player of the Year, And Dave, how fired up were

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Speaker 1: first thing I thought, Jake, is that, oh, this guy's

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Speaker 1: But you know, you're talking about Russell. I think his

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Speaker 1: oh it's on every highlight everywhere. But Russ I mean

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Speaker 1: he almost made that. Maybe Tyler Lockett's your second or

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Speaker 1: third best player there. But a lot of people were complaining,

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Speaker 1: people complaining that maybe they should have ran it there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it going both ways. And I agree with you, Dave

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Speaker 1: you know, calling a play that's for the sticks in

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Speaker 1: that situation, not necessarily, but again, sometimes you have a

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Speaker 1: not to mention that it's really hard to run the

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Speaker 1: cover zero in the way that they were. So it's

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Speaker 1: not like you had this easy, clean box to run

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Speaker 1: at it. So I lean more towards you, Dave. If

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna be a proponent, which we have been,

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Speaker 1: and I'm talking to myself, if you're a proponent of,

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Speaker 1: the slightly less fun part, but the important part. Getting

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Speaker 1: both had great things to say about Jordan Brooks. Dave,

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Speaker 1: that's an NFL record. So it's a little bit concerning,

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Speaker 1: of those numbers that you're talking about heading up against Dallas.

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Speaker 1: Quandre Diggs is six and one as a starter ever

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Speaker 1: This is the Huddle every Thursday from noon to two

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Speaker 1: We're good. Um, I we have to get started talking

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Speaker 1: point conversion with five minutes ago and they're down by nine, No,

427
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,719
Speaker 1: I didn't think they were gonna win. But you know,

428
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 1: it's a crazy world. Crazy crazy stuff happened, and you know,

429
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,600
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have been on the wrong side of games

430
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,600
Speaker 1: like that, so it was good for their perspective. Is

431
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Speaker 1: good for them to get one, and they certainly don't

432
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,600
Speaker 1: want to be a too going into Seattle. Yeah, Nick,

433
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Speaker 1: we're familiar with your SPECIALTYAM coordinator John Fossil Evan. He

434
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,920
Speaker 1: was actually the son of Jim Fossil, who used to

435
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Speaker 1: be a ball boy when I was playing in Denver.

436
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,359
Speaker 1: But uh, but he uh, you know, he had a

437
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,080
Speaker 1: fake punt that was well designed, would have worked, but

438
00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,000
Speaker 1: it was a bad throw. And then he had the

439
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:38,080
Speaker 1: on side kick, which was bizarre. And I heard Dalton Schultz,

440
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 1: the tight end down there, saying, yeah, we've been working

441
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,920
Speaker 1: on that every day in practice. It's never worked once

442
00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,879
Speaker 1: and it finally finally worked out. But uh, that was

443
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,640
Speaker 1: that was one of the more strange plays I've ever seen,

444
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 1: because you know, it looked like Atlanta. I think the

445
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,359
Speaker 1: Atlanta players knew the rule. They were just afraid to

446
00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,560
Speaker 1: dive on it and have the ball comes squirting out

447
00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,240
Speaker 1: and they didn't think it was going to go ten years.

448
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 1: But man, that worked out perfectly. That's that's what I

449
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:07,199
Speaker 1: think too. I believe that they knew it, but at

450
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 1: the same time, you know that ball is just the

451
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 1: way it's just you know, kind of spinning like that,

452
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,119
Speaker 1: and it's can you imagine what you have to do

453
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 1: on that play is you have to kick this ball

454
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Speaker 1: ten and a half yards. It can't be nine, it

455
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,200
Speaker 1: can't be twelve. It's got to be ten and a half.

456
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Speaker 1: And that's just that's just the weird part about the

457
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Speaker 1: way the rules are. That's why it's going I'm almost

458
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Speaker 1: impossible to give an on site kick. But you know,

459
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 1: it worked, and you know, we were joking about it.

460
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 1: You know, maybe the falcons either I mean social distancing

461
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,720
Speaker 1: it only you know, doesn't apply one kick but you

462
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Speaker 1: don't have to get away from still get the ball.

463
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Speaker 1: But um, you know one of the players who the

464
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Speaker 1: guy who caught it, heja good one. He told me

465
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Speaker 1: that that that he thought the rule was that that

466
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Speaker 1: they couldn't touch it. So I was like, well, I

467
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 1: don't know if that's true or not. You better, you better.

468
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 1: John Fossil needs to realize that because you might get

469
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Speaker 1: a situation in the next game or two where you're

470
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Speaker 1: on the other side of that. So your players need

471
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Speaker 1: to go to rule Yeah. Uh, Nick fast Boarding to

472
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Speaker 1: just kind of the injuries that you guys have had

473
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Speaker 1: to you know, really overcome. As for the Dallas Cowboys,

474
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Speaker 1: you know Tyron Smith, Lyle Collins, uh, you know, vander

475
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Speaker 1: esh Sean Lee. What is the status of the Cowboys

476
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Speaker 1: right now in terms of the health of the team overall. Well,

477
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,879
Speaker 1: the sad part of what you just said you have

478
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 1: mentioned four guys and you wan't mentioned two positions. And

479
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 1: if I, you know, if I would also throw in

480
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 1: you know, Keito Woozier and um, you know Anthony Brown,

481
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 1: that's just one more positions. Those are both corners. That's

482
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 1: been the real problem is the fact that the injuries

483
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 1: are recurring at the same position. You know, You've got

484
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Speaker 1: both of your offensive tackles that are out and really

485
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 1: the third tackle, Cam Irving, he's also out. You've got

486
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Speaker 1: two linebackers that that are banged up, two corners. So

487
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 1: that's that's the problem that it's really kind into the

488
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 1: depth and you know, the new rules of this year

489
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 1: of expanded practice squads and having different rules to get

490
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Speaker 1: guys on injured reserves. Back Cowboys are needing all of

491
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Speaker 1: those just to survive here. So as for this week,

492
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 1: I don't know Tyrand Smith. I believe it's not practiced

493
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Speaker 1: yet this week, so he's going to be a game

494
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 1: time decision. I wouldn't surprise me if he misses it again.

495
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 1: And then as far as the cornerbacks go, you know

496
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 1: they're banged up big time with Chito and out and

497
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown and then Trayvon Diggs, so rookie from Alabawn

498
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:36,400
Speaker 1: who has played well even if some practice the last

499
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Speaker 1: two days with the shoulder injury. So when it rains,

500
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 1: it pours. I guess that's the Seattle reference. But but

501
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 1: you know that's going to be the case for this

502
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 1: team at these injuries. It's really been it's hitting him

503
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 1: in the same spot a couple of times. Nick just

504
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,400
Speaker 1: staying on the defensive side of the ball. Up here,

505
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 1: we've been kind of predicting this game would be a shootout.

506
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you guys are doing the same

507
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 1: out there. But just so you can explain four Seahawks fans,

508
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 1: what's what's the deal with Dallas's offense right now? I mean,

509
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 1: what are they struggling with? Could they surprise us? What's

510
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 1: it look like to you? Well, they struggled last week.

511
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 1: I were just hanging on to the ball and that

512
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: was the key. But you know, they were spreading it

513
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 1: around nicely, you know, against Atlanta, trying to get back

514
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Speaker 1: in the game, and they were able, you know, obviously

515
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Speaker 1: to get over the hump. So it's it's kind of

516
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 1: hard to tell after two games what what you've got

517
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Speaker 1: on offense because and they played the Rams. You know,

518
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 1: the Rams are the best defensive tackle in the league

519
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 1: and the best cornerback in my opinion, and Jalen Ramsey,

520
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 1: so it was hard for them to move the ball

521
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 1: around gets Atlanta, they were down so big and they

522
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 1: were just throwing it around. So, um, I do expect

523
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Speaker 1: to shootout. I expect both both defenses. Wills will struggle

524
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 1: with these offenses. But you know, I just think that

525
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are doing a really nice job of just

526
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 1: getting everybody involved, whether it's Amari and tv Lamb and

527
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz had nine catches in the game, and Michael

528
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 1: Gallup is you know, it's a big player seever, and

529
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Speaker 1: then of course he had Zeke. So I think that

530
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 1: they they've got so many weapons and they're doing a

531
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 1: good job of utilizing all of them. Nick tell me

532
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 1: about Dak Prescott I've always loved Dak Prescott and I

533
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 1: saw a comparison on the broadcast that the first four years.

534
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,360
Speaker 1: I mean here, he is a fourth rounder and Matt

535
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: Ryan was like the third pick of the draft, and

536
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 1: yet in his first four years got better completion percentage,

537
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,479
Speaker 1: better quarterback rating, better touchdown to interception ratio. What kind

538
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: of what kind of a leader is he? And uh?

539
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 1: And is he as good of a guy as as

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00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 1: he seems to me? Anyway? Well, uh yeah, I think

541
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 1: yes to all that. He's actually talking right now, right

542
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 1: right as we speak. He he was doing his interview

543
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 1: and so uh and I ran back in here in

544
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: my phone, so I'm missing it's what he's talking about today.

545
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 1: But I mean, I'm sure I can get it here

546
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: a little bit. But he's he's actually really invitful, you know,

547
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 1: with the media. He does. He does a good job

548
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 1: of challenge just enough, but not of course too much.

549
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,080
Speaker 1: Um as far as far as like his leadership, I

550
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: think that's his best quality. I mean, he is a leader.

551
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: These guys will go to war with him and for him,

552
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: and so you know, he that's I love Tony Romo,

553
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,439
Speaker 1: you know, I loved him, but I think I think

554
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: this team missed that a little bit. Romo wasn't exactly

555
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: the same locker room type guy as dak Is. Dack's

556
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 1: more about with the guys, with the players, you know,

557
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: invites him to their house. That's obviously even created a

558
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: whole backyard. His whole backyard is a football field, and

559
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 1: they created that this year and so they were able

560
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 1: to kind of work and do a lot of routes

561
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:37,719
Speaker 1: things like that. The camaraderie that he creates is really outstanding. Um,

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00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: you know, numbers wise, yeah, he's he's he's got him,

563
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 1: you know, either all there. And he runs the ball

564
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: as well. Um, I just think for him just ten

565
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 1: point accuracy. That's probably one of the reasons he was

566
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: dropped to the fourth round. And you know, they didn't

567
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 1: they didn't think he would be this, you know, had

568
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 1: the in factor the way he does. But I think

569
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Speaker 1: there are times with the accuracy kind of gets the

570
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: best of him a little bit. And you know, I

571
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: wouldn't say that's been his downfall, because it's been It's

572
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: been great. But you know, he doesn't have that precision

573
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 1: that some of the great ones really do. But he's

574
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 1: right there and he makes up for it in other

575
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 1: ways by I call him a linebacker playing quarterback. All right, Nick,

576
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: very last one, I'm going to pit you on the spot.

577
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 1: Sorry in advance making give us a score prediction. Man,

578
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 1: I haven't really. I told myself last week. I told

579
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 1: myself I wasn't going to be doing any more predictions

580
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 1: in the middle of a week until Friday, because you know,

581
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: all these injuries happen and all that, and then I

582
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: didn't expect to be put on the spot here you guys.

583
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: But I I don't know. I'm gonna ride this one

584
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: out with the Cowboys. I think that. I just think

585
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: it's it's one of those strange leagues where I just

586
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: see him both being two and one. I really do.

587
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: I think I think, you know, Seattle's kind of been

588
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 1: living ride a little bit, kind of obviously fortunate to

589
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: win that game. Even though they were they were dominating

590
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: that game, it still it came down to to the end.

591
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 1: I can see the Cowboys using the momentum from that

592
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: first win um and also I mean also just going

593
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: to Seattle like it's not gonna be the way it was.

594
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: I mean like that's that's that's one of that's a

595
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: break if you want to call that a big break

596
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys getting to go to Seattle and not

597
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: having the same type of fans, but it's always big

598
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: so I'm not even sure they have fans at all,

599
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:32,239
Speaker 1: like or no fans, no fans, no fans. That's I mean,

600
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: that's that is a huge difference from from what you know.

601
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: Usually when you see that on the schedule, it's like,

602
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: oh man, yeah, you ready for that, and and Russell

603
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 1: Wilson and that group is going to be tough enough.

604
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna goal with Dallas. Sorry long, I'm gonna go

605
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: with Dallas. Forty two thirty three. All right in Seattle

606
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: are cursing you, but you stick to your guns. You're

607
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 1: worth your salt. You're a Dallas cover dot com guy.

608
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: You got to pick the cow thanks Nick. Yeah. I

609
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: don't always pick the Cowboys. I don't. I don't. I

610
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: don't always pick the Cowboys. But you know, I'll be

611
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: flying up there. I'm on the I'm on the charter

612
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: with nice. We kind of doing this together. Yeah, all right,

613
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: we'll see you up here. All right, Well, I'll be there.

614
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: I don't know where they're gonna have me. I don't

615
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: know where in the Rams game, I was in a

616
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 1: sweet the nicest sweet you've ever seen by myself. It

617
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: was it was so awesome for about five minutes and

618
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: I'm like this shock, Like I just couldn't. I was boring.

619
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Speaker 1: I mean there was no TV, there's no replay. You know,

620
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 1: it was it wasn't. It wasn't the sweet life. It's

621
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Speaker 1: all fun. No, it'd be great, all right, have fun.

622
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Speaker 1: All right, thanks guys, thank you. All right, Pete Carroll,

623
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Speaker 1: you guys, this is get ready for this. He's been

624
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 1: impressed with one position group quite a bit more the

625
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: offensive line through two weeks. We'll ask Seahawks pre and

626
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Speaker 1: postgame show host and former oligman himself, Ray Roberts what

627
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: he's seeing next on the huddle. This is the huddle

628
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: everyday from newon to two f seven. Welcome back into

629
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Speaker 1: the Huddle with Dave Wyman, Jake Keats, and Stacy Ross

630
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: joining us now for his regular in the Trenches segment,

631
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: Seahawks pre and postgame host and former own lineman Ray Roberts, Ray,

632
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: how are you doing? What's happening? How you guys doing?

633
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: We're good, We're good. Um, Let's see where do I

634
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: want to start. I'm gonna start with Brandon Shell. I

635
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: almost want to take a look at like each of

636
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Speaker 1: the new players here. Um, just while we have you here,

637
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Speaker 1: an actual insight from a former old lineman. So what

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Speaker 1: have you seen from Brandon Shell so far? When I

639
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Speaker 1: hear Pete Carroll, he sounds impressed, But what do you

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Speaker 1: see on the field. The thing that I've seeing Brandon

641
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Speaker 1: is exactly what Pete said at the beginning when they

642
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Speaker 1: when they first signed him. One thing is he's the

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Speaker 1: first dude you want off the bus because he just

644
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: he looks apart as Pete says. But then also he

645
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: has just been consistent, Like his footwork has been consistent,

646
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: his pass protection has been consistent. You know, if there's

647
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Speaker 1: anything I think as a overall, the offensive line has

648
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Speaker 1: lacked a little bit of chemistry due to due to

649
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Speaker 1: just not having enough reps together. So there's been times

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Speaker 1: where uh, he and the rookie Damian Lewis will be

651
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: on a different page on their double teams or on

652
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Speaker 1: how they're switching games. They've seen a lot of line stunts,

653
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Speaker 1: especially from the from the Patriots. I think the Patriots

654
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: are really testing that side of the offensive line with

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Speaker 1: all the different looks and stunts they were having, and

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Speaker 1: for the most part, the two of them have held

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Speaker 1: up really well. So I've been really impressed with Shell

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Speaker 1: because the one thing is that you know, we haven't

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Speaker 1: heard his name and so as an offensive line and

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Speaker 1: when when when they don't hear your name, that's usually

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00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: a good thing. But because most of the time when

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Speaker 1: they hear it is for penalties or or things that

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Speaker 1: have been negatively impacting the team area, I wanted to

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Speaker 1: ask you from the standpoint of an offensive lineman the

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Speaker 1: last play of the game, because I know on the

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Speaker 1: postgame show you talked a lot about Bobby Wagner, and

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Speaker 1: you know how disruptive that is when you get you

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Speaker 1: knock a guard off, or you know, you just cost

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Speaker 1: any kind of disruption in the run game. It's how

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Speaker 1: key that is. And how you know when the offensive

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Speaker 1: lineman can't get to their assignments or you get you know,

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Speaker 1: penetration like that, it just blows a running play up. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so you know, obviously I've learned this thing from to me,

674
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Speaker 1: the greatest off of the wine coach in the history

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Speaker 1: of the NFL, and that's Howard Mudge. So a lot

676
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: of my perspectives and viewpoints of off of the wine

677
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: play come from Howard and his one big thing about

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Speaker 1: the running game is that we the offsitive line has

679
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Speaker 1: to win the first six inches off the line of scrimmage.

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00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: If you if you can get your heels across the

681
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Speaker 1: line of scrimmage with your defender, most of the times

682
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Speaker 1: you're going to have success on that play. Conversely, if

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Speaker 1: the defense gets to six inches you know, across the

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Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, then they're going to have better success.

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Speaker 1: And so the worst thing to a running game is

686
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Speaker 1: to have someone penetrate the line of scrimmage because then

687
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Speaker 1: the runner has to either bounce to the outside or

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Speaker 1: make a cut sooner than he wants to make the cut.

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00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: The hole and the lane that you're trying to run

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00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: in doesn't develop so on that particular goal line play

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Speaker 1: because before the defensive linement were just lined up where

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Speaker 1: they were and the offensive linement to just tee off

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Speaker 1: on them, and then they were getting a good push

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Speaker 1: and the backside guard was pulling and just leading Cam

695
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: right up in the hole. On that particular play, whatever

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Speaker 1: whoever you know came up with the idea of whatever

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00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 1: the play call was to slant the defensive line is

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00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: what made all the difference in the world, because then

699
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 1: the offensive line thought that, hey, this dude is right

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Speaker 1: in front of me. He's been right in front of

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Speaker 1: me that every other time we've done this, so I'm

702
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Speaker 1: just going to fire straight off at him. And when

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00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: they did that, the lines flanted away from him, so

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00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: it gave Lja a chance to get the edge on

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Speaker 1: the tackle that was blocking him. And then and then,

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Speaker 1: like I said, Bobby Wagner, on the previous plays, he

707
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Speaker 1: kind of played over the top or he was a

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00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: little bit slow, like running to that backside gap to

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00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: impact the pulling guard. But on mister Tickler play, he

710
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: went right now and just got right into the hip

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Speaker 1: of the guard. So then that guard had to stop

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Speaker 1: and take home Bobby, which then allowed that penetration by

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Speaker 1: Hill and Lja call, are you to be even more impactful? Ray?

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Speaker 1: You talk about not hearing guy's names. The guy that

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Speaker 1: we actually have heard his name the last two weeks

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Speaker 1: is Damian Lewis. For different penalties and things of that nature,

717
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Speaker 1: obviously being a rookie, but he is played outstanding. Ray.

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Speaker 1: I've been so impressed with him and just how smart

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Speaker 1: he is, his athleticism, all of that. What really stands

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Speaker 1: out to you about Damian Lewis so far that you've

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Speaker 1: watched him in these few weeks, Yeah, I watched him

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Speaker 1: pretty much. I didn't. I pretty much fought some every

723
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Speaker 1: single play for the The Papers game because I was

724
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: interested to see what Bill Belichick was gonna try to

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00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: bring to him, to try to distract him or get him,

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Speaker 1: you know, get him confused with the different looks. I

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Speaker 1: mean he was. They had dbs lined up over him,

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00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: they had defensive vans lined up over him, tackles, linebackers,

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Speaker 1: and then they were moving all over the place. And

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Speaker 1: the thing that I was impressed with was his ability

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Speaker 1: to handle all of that. So obviously he had his

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00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: negative plays. There was one play where a defender slanted

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Speaker 1: inside and I think he thought he was passing off

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00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: a game, but the defender was just rushing inside and

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Speaker 1: that's that's when he gave up the sack and then

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Speaker 1: the holding calls. H you know, like you know, you

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Speaker 1: and I will agree that those those are rookie things.

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Speaker 1: You know. I noticed it in his film right after

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Speaker 1: he was drafted. In one of the scouting reports, I

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00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: said about him was that he tends to be real

741
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: grabby with his hands and those are going to turn

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Speaker 1: into holding calls in the NFL, and uh, and so

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00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: far they have. But that's not because he doesn't have

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00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 1: the ability. It doesn't. It's not because he's not smart enough.

745
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: It's not because he's not good enough to do this.

746
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: Play outstanding football and for a rookie to jump in

747
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: from day one like Pete's head and never look back,

748
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 1: and then to be able to face a defense like

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Speaker 1: the like the Patriots in the mind, a defensive mind

750
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: like the Belichick and pretty much come out of it,

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Speaker 1: you know, I would say with a you know, with

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00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 1: a very high grade. In the way he played, I

753
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: think that says a lot to the type of player

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Speaker 1: he is. I think someone may have tweeted out and

755
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: I'm not real sure that that he has the looks

756
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 1: of maybe the best offensive lineman that this Uh, that

757
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: Pete and these guys are drafted and uh, And I

758
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: wouldn't disagree with that without looking back and seeing who

759
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:47,720
Speaker 1: else they drafted. But I really like the way he plays.

760
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 1: I like the nastiness that he has. I like the

761
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: way he tries to finish every block. I love his athleticism.

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00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: I love the way that he hasn't even let the

763
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 1: holding calls impact him, you know, like with Affetti, you

764
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: can see his whole It's a good point, you know

765
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: when he when he got affility with this guy, he

766
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: just lines up and goes to the next place. Ray.

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00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: One question that I really wanted to get your perspective

768
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: on is as an offensive lineman, what is more difficult

769
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Speaker 1: to handle a really elite four down rush or a

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00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: group that's really dynamic in their blitzing schemes? Like what what?

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00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: When you go to and prepare for a certain week,

772
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,280
Speaker 1: it's like, man, we gotta go up against this style?

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00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 1: What what style? Really? Uh? Was more difficult to you

774
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: when you were playing, Well, I'm gonna I'm gonna take

775
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: um the dude right in front of me that I'm

776
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: going to take that as an easy job every time

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Speaker 1: because because you can put a lot of study into

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00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 1: what he does and how he does it, uh, and

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00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: you get more reps to kind of to kind of

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00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: make sure you know what he's doing. But when you

781
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 1: play teams, I remember playing teams like Pittsburgh back in

782
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: the day, and they do all these different exotic like

783
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: zone blitzes and you didn't know you know they were

784
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: gonna bring or guys, but you never knew who the

785
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: fourth dude was. Then it really relies a lot. Sometimes

786
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: they can just beat you on lack of communication and

787
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: so then so if you're not communicating things, you know,

788
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 1: partning out the right, who the middle linebacker is, who

789
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: the fourth rusher is, it's real easy to get beaten

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Speaker 1: just by the scheme. And so then that becomes frustrating

791
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 1: because the team didn't physically beat you, they just outschemed

792
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: you that in that situation. And so I've always as

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00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: a player, would much rather go against h for you know,

794
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 1: good pass rushers, but you kind of know what they're

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00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,280
Speaker 1: gonna do and you can kind of lock in versus

796
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 1: trying to go against a team that has some really

797
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: good blitzing schemes because it's just kind of hard to

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Speaker 1: figure out where people are. And in this environment it

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Speaker 1: might be a little bit easy because you don't have

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Speaker 1: all the crowd noise, so you can communicate a little

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00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 1: bit better. But when it's loud and you're trying to

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00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: point people out and you can't hear and you're concentrating

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00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: on the snap count, and you're trying to get your

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00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: breaths and all that stuff, and then all of a

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00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,439
Speaker 1: sudden your guy drops or slams and the safety comes,

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00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: or there's a linebacker you know, double blitz or something.

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00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: It's like that becomes a little bit confusing. You can

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Speaker 1: hear Ray every week on the Seahawks pre and postgame show,

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00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: and every week right here on the Huddle. Ray, thank

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00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: you so much. We learned something new every time. Hey, well,

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Speaker 1: thanks for having me, and uh, I hope that I

812
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Speaker 1: can supplement some of this stuff with some video. I

813
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: just got to figure out a better way to set

814
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: my video video deal. It would be awesome. Fans would

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Speaker 1: absolutely love that. I know I would certainly like it.

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Speaker 1: All right, Thanks Ray, All right, all right, Dave, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna be bringing in your copilot here. Oh yeah. Seahawks

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Speaker 1: play by play man Steve Rabel joins us next on

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Speaker 1: the huddle to choose Welcome back into the Huddle. It

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00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: Dave Winman, Big Eats, and Stacy Ross joining us now

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Speaker 1: the voice of the Seahawks, Steve Rabel. Ray, how's it going, guys?

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Speaker 1: How you all doing on this rainy Thursday. It's disgusting

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Speaker 1: out but I think we're all feeling pretty good. I'm

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Speaker 1: going to get started with I always have like a

825
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:15,479
Speaker 1: favorite call of the game, But I have to ask

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Speaker 1: you how you were feeling in that final moment, that

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Speaker 1: goal line stop with three seconds left. I mean, what

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Speaker 1: was that moment like for you? Well, you know, we've

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Speaker 1: and tell me if I'm wrong. Haven't we seen this before?

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Speaker 1: I mean, haven't we seen the Hawks games come down

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Speaker 1: to the final play or the final two plays and

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00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:34,919
Speaker 1: they seem to find a way to pull it out.

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00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you it was. It was pretty stressful there.

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Speaker 1: But you know they had gone to the well how

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Speaker 1: many times on that play you just almost knew it's

836
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Speaker 1: going to be Cam something either run or the run

837
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Speaker 1: pass option, And you know, rarely are they going to

838
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 1: just hand the ball off deep in the backfield. That's

839
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: not what they do. That's not what Cam does. So

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Speaker 1: you know you kind of looked at it hoping for

841
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: the best, and here comes the defense up. Bobby gets

842
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 1: them to slant and LJ makes a great play along

843
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 1: with Lano and then Bobby over the top, and um,

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Speaker 1: you know, you couldn't ask for anything more, but it

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Speaker 1: was It was certainly exciting. Yeah, D's I didn't think

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00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,320
Speaker 1: they were going to stop them. I really didn't because

847
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: the one play they like, they ran variations of the

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00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: same thing basically, But yeah, it seemed like and the

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Speaker 1: thing that was such a shame And Pete said it afterwards,

850
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 1: where do you think that the noise level would have ranked?

851
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:35,359
Speaker 1: I mean, that would have had to have been up

852
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 1: there with like beast quake. You would think, oh, without question,

853
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 1: you know, we'd have been our ears would have been

854
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:44,919
Speaker 1: ringing for you know, three or four days after that. Yeah,

855
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,760
Speaker 1: and it and yeah, I can I can almost picture

856
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: the players, you know, kind of running and high fiving

857
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,479
Speaker 1: with all the folks there in the north end zone

858
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: stands and in those suites. Uh, it would have been

859
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: just just such a great moment. It was a great

860
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 1: moment as it was, and you know, just the way

861
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 1: the players reacted, both on the sidelines and on the field. Um,

862
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: you know, you remember games like that, Dave. You you

863
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 1: probably played in a game or two like that that

864
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: came down to the very last play, whether it was

865
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: a goal line stand or not. But those are games

866
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 1: that really stand out. And I think I think that's

867
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: something that that Pete will really cheach on for you know,

868
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: the rest of the season. And that is listen, you guys.

869
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 1: You see what you can do when you put your

870
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 1: mind to it and when you do your job, even

871
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: on the last play of the game. And I who knows,

872
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: but maybe we'll see more of them this year. I

873
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: hope not quite that taxing, but I hope we see

874
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 1: some more big finishes this year. All right, ra if

875
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: you were there for this one too, nineteen ninety at

876
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: Kansas City, Dave Craig ducks the what eighth or ninth

877
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: sack from Derek Thomas and throwze to that was that

878
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: was one of them. That was maybe the without without question.

879
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: And I was not doing play by play at the time.

880
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 1: Pete was still doing play by play, but you know

881
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 1: I almost came unglued at there at at the Arrowhead Stadium.

882
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: It was it was, you know, as great to come

883
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: back and as great to finish down that stretch when

884
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: they needed to have some plays made. And Dave, you know, Dave,

885
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,320
Speaker 1: when he got a hot hand, and I know Thomas

886
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: sacking what eight times or seven times and the eighth

887
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: had him around the ankles, and then their scans just

888
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 1: finding that little open spot. Uh. You know the best

889
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: story about that whole weekend. I think I've told it

890
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 1: to you guys. Before the bar go to the airport.

891
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 1: We got delayed leaving the airport in Kansas City, and

892
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: so we all went into the bar, almost all the

893
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: players went into the bar there at the terminal in

894
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 1: Kansas City, and a few minutes later, here comes Pete,

895
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: here comes Chuck walking in, and everybody thought, oh, it

896
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: could be trouble. Chuck walked over and hands a roll

897
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: of bills to the guy behind the bar and says,

898
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 1: I want you to take care of my boys. Yeah.

899
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 1: And by the way, the plane was delayed because we

900
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: were all in the bar, not because yeah. Well, and

901
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: I thought Chuck was right. I thought Chuck was going

902
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 1: to kill us. I mean, he had those steely blue

903
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: eyes looking at everybody and pulls out like three hundred

904
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,760
Speaker 1: dollar bills right right. We drank everything except the cleaner

905
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 1: under the saint. It was. It was an amazing It

906
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: was an amazing day, just you know, And how long

907
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 1: had it been since since the Seahawks had won there

908
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: and they had not one there in the eighties, had

909
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: not run in the eighties or I think, and that

910
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 1: was nineteen ninety, so yeah, and you know he was always,

911
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 1: you know, pretty superstitious. We'd stayed someplace different at a

912
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 1: hotel if we didn't win the year before. So I

913
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 1: mean we stayed everywhere but the YWCA in the eighties.

914
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: For crying out right, Well, what was what was one

915
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: of your other favorite moments from the game as you're

916
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 1: watching end calling it, um, what else stood out to

917
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:55,879
Speaker 1: you outside of that goal line stand this? Yeah? This weekend? Um? Well,

918
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 1: you know, being an old and I used that word advisedly,

919
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: old receiver watching DKA continue, you know, to just amaze

920
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 1: and literally run rough shot over arguably the best, you know,

921
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: one of the best two or three cornerbacks in all

922
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: of football, and the Seahawks passing offense to literally slice

923
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: up the defense of the New England Patriots. That team

924
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 1: is built from the back forward, and they had a

925
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: secondary that could go seven or eight deep with two

926
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 1: or three Pro bowlers back there, guys who are special

927
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 1: teams Pro Bowlers who can also sub in as defensive

928
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: backs in a pinch, and they you know, they had

929
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: some very active linebackers and the rest and Russell just

930
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 1: carved him up. I think that was the thing that

931
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: really stood out to me. He's playing on another planet

932
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 1: right now, is russ And and for heaven's sakes, don't

933
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 1: anybody wake him because he's It's amazing his ability. Yeah,

934
00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 1: and you're at quarterback, Jake, you know, his ability to read, act,

935
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: decide and get that ball out of his hands. He

936
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: seems to be doing that better than I can ever

937
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: remember him doing it. And even when he holds it,

938
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 1: he's holding it for a purpose to give give his

939
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 1: receiver one extra step. So I think that part has

940
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: been nothing short of amazing. And DK and you know,

941
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: Tyler very quietly, you know, another seven or eight receptions.

942
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 1: They're just they're really playing well right now in the

943
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: passing game. Steve, you're at this point now of the

944
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: week where you're really starting to prepare and getting ready

945
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,879
Speaker 1: for the Dallas Cowboys. What is something that stood out

946
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: to you about the Cowboys in this matchup as you're

947
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: preparing to call this game? Well, you know, I like

948
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 1: the matchup that we have right now. What are we

949
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: number two in the league against the run? And the

950
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: Cowboys will always want to run the ball first, and

951
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 1: that's because you got Ezekiel Elliott back there and he's

952
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: one of the best in the game. I love that

953
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: matchup even though they don't aren't on the field at

954
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,240
Speaker 1: the same time. But is Ekiel Elliott and Chris Carson.

955
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 1: I mean two battering rams, two guys with speed that

956
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: can get outside, two guys that can catch the football,

957
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,240
Speaker 1: two guys that you know you're are the bell cows

958
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 1: for their offense. I think that's that's going to be

959
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: a game in a game, and I'm gonna love watching that.

960
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 1: But you know, when you talk about some of the

961
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 1: some of the other parts, Dak Prescott is a heck

962
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: of a quarterback and he's proven it what he rushed

963
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 1: for three touchdowns last week and through for another. He's

964
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: got a big arm. Now, the plus is for us

965
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 1: is over the last three four games that we've played him,

966
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: I think three games we've played him, he's thrown us

967
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 1: five passes. He's thrown five picks, So he can be

968
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: if he is pressured, he can throw that ball up

969
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 1: and it can be a little bit off target. And

970
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: if our guys are in position. I think we've been

971
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: in position for what three or four interceptions and haven't

972
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 1: done it yet. But Amari Cooper got as good as

973
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: there is out there. Lamb at Oklahoma guy can fly.

974
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: I'm glad Witton is no longer there because he was

975
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: that security blanket six yards and a cloud of dust

976
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: and another first down and he was that guy. So

977
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 1: I'm glad he's not there. And then Dak Prescott, I mean,

978
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: he's a leader, he can run the ball, he's he's

979
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: a lot. He's a little bigger than Russ, maybe a

980
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: lot bigger than Russ, but he can do a lot

981
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 1: of the things Russ can do, not as accurate, certainly

982
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 1: doesn't throw the deep ball as well, but he's a

983
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: competitive guy. So it's a really, i think, pretty evenly

984
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: matched game. Rabes, thanks so much for joining us. Dave.

985
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: We'll see a Sunday. Me and Jake and Dave. We'll

986
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: talk to you next week. Joy, and thank you Dave,

987
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 1: see you Sunday. All right, Rabes, take care of your

988
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:35,399
Speaker 1: voice between the golden pipes to speak again until Sunday morning.

989
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:39,760
Speaker 1: You go, all right, great, Dave's got a fun question

990
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 1: for us and the listeners next, and then we'll take

991
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,800
Speaker 1: a closer look at these two offenses. That's next on

992
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: the huddle. This is the huddle every Thursday from noon

993
00:49:51,600 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: to two on seven ten ESPNC. Well, welcome back in

994
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:04,280
Speaker 1: to the huddle with Dave Wyman, Jake Keeps and Stacy Ross.

995
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 1: Dave answer the question, Jake, who's the best coach you

996
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: ever played? Again? During Dave stop yelling at me. Welcome

997
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:16,879
Speaker 1: back to the huddle, Welcome back to the huddle. During

998
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 1: the break we were having a fun conversation. I got

999
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: two former players on here on the huddle, former quarterback

1000
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:26,919
Speaker 1: Jake Keeps, former linebacker Dave Wyman. I asked Dave, who's

1001
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 1: the best coach he ever played for? Ye and Catlin?

1002
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 1: Tom Catlin was my answer, defensive coordinator. Awesome guy, not

1003
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: a lot of personality. Took me about two years to

1004
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 1: get to know him, but he was appreciated. I totally

1005
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 1: appreciate him. He was a pros pro like coach. You

1006
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 1: just want to hear the truth. You don't want any

1007
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 1: of the bs that goes along with it. And he

1008
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: was very dry. I was telling Stacy that it looked

1009
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 1: like if he ever smiled that his face would crack.

1010
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: But he was the most knowledgeable, best consistent, And that's

1011
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 1: what you look for, Jake. You look for consistency. So

1012
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 1: and your answer was for your best coach that you

1013
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 1: played Pete Carroll. Pete Carroll, usually it would be that guy.

1014
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: But if I was a girl who coached me specifically,

1015
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 1: I would probably say Carl Smith, who was the quarterback

1016
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: coach here, the Tater Man. He was the best in

1017
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 1: terms of like quarterbacking is such a cerebral position that

1018
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 1: sometimes and oftentimes you get coaches that try to make

1019
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: you overthink, and he was just the chilliest guy. He

1020
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: was awesome, simplified the game, shaking his head a bit. Oh,

1021
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:39,879
Speaker 1: I'm so cerebral. Cerebral, Jake. How about the best coach

1022
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: that you've played against? Disappoint Jimbo Fisher. I thought you

1023
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: were gonna say me, man, of course, you know you

1024
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: shredded us for like four hundred yards every time you

1025
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 1: played against when I was at Lake Washington and Inner Lake.

1026
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 1: Most intimidating coach, Yeah, I mean you're looking at Dave

1027
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:02,800
Speaker 1: Winman over there on the sideline. You're going, who the

1028
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: heck is that it's going to fight me after the game.

1029
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 1: This guy gonna come on the field and take me

1030
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: out Right now. I'll tell you what I'm most intimidating

1031
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 1: all the guys, I coach, I was probably the one

1032
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 1: that would could possibly do it. None of my players

1033
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: could do it. But yeah, Jake just had his way

1034
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,800
Speaker 1: with me, Stacy, and it was Yeah. It tried to

1035
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 1: confuse me. He tried to put out all sorts of

1036
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 1: coverages out there. It didn't work, didn't It all worked

1037
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 1: out in the end. Here we are now. I do

1038
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: want to preview these two offenses. I'm going to get

1039
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: to that in a moment. First, I do want to

1040
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,839
Speaker 1: ask it's a very fun question that you asked us, Dave,

1041
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 1: and I'm ready with all of our answers. Your question

1042
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 1: was which two active NFL players would you essentially be

1043
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 1: stuck on like what like a six hour flight with

1044
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 1: I mean to think of like a long flight. You

1045
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: got to be stuck with two guys for six hours.

1046
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,359
Speaker 1: And I know the rule was no Seahawks, but one

1047
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 1: of my picks was a Seahawk. Yeah, I said, DK

1048
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: Metcalf and Staffi Gilmore, And we're not getting off this plane,

1049
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 1: and you'd have to sit in the middle exactly. We're

1050
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 1: not getting off this plane until we make up and

1051
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: we're all friends again. Jake, well, shocker, it's gonna be

1052
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks, but I'm gonna go with two very unique quarterbacks.

1053
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew first off, first of all, uh and Ryan Fitzpatrick.

1054
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 1: I had I had fits as one of the quarterbacks

1055
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 1: when I was in New York my rookie year, And

1056
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: that guy is hilarious. He is so fun to be around.

1057
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 1: You could talk to him about a million different things

1058
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 1: and he probably by the end of it teach you

1059
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 1: how to salve a Rubik's cube. So I think that

1060
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,800
Speaker 1: would be pretty fun. Yeah, well mine were, and I

1061
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 1: thought it was topical. But because one is the quarterback

1062
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 1: we've played last week, the other ones the quarterback we're

1063
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: gonna play this week, I don't know why. I've always

1064
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: had a soft spot in my heart for Dak Prescott.

1065
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:53,919
Speaker 1: I just like him. And then when he his brother

1066
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: died and you know, he had him do those chunky

1067
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 1: soup commercials, which you know, they came to him and said,

1068
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 1: we want you to do this, and he's like, I

1069
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: want my brothers involved, which I love that about him.

1070
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:06,760
Speaker 1: And then you know, he went through a hard time

1071
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,359
Speaker 1: when one of his brothers died and everything. But I've

1072
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,280
Speaker 1: just always like the guy's a fourth round draft choice

1073
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 1: and I was talking earlier with Nick Eatman at Cowboys

1074
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: dot Com that you know, you look at um who

1075
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 1: they played last week, Ryan Matt Ryan. He was the

1076
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: third pick overall and he Dak Prescott has better numbers

1077
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 1: than in almost every category except for wins. But you

1078
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 1: know that to me is very impressive, and I just

1079
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: always liked him. And then the other guy, just because

1080
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 1: I think he's so odd, is Cam Newton. I just

1081
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: think I just would love to know what makes that

1082
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: guy tick, Like what is he like, because you know,

1083
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 1: off the field, he has his style of dressing and

1084
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 1: then you know, and he said some things that were,

1085
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:57,320
Speaker 1: you know, buffoonery, but I mean he's been, you know,

1086
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:00,040
Speaker 1: a pretty solid guy and he threw for a a

1087
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: lot of yards. I was really impressed, you know, how

1088
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 1: his arm and what he did the other day. But

1089
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: I just think he's a very interesting cat. Like, Yeah,

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00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: he's a guy that sometimes seems like he's thinking about

1091
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 1: other things, and then there's sometimes where he can kind

1092
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: of pout a little bit, and then he's a tough guy.

1093
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 1: I mean, he doesn't react too much to you know.

1094
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 1: Jamal Adams shoved him down the other day and he

1095
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 1: just got up and walked past him and Jamal was

1096
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 1: kind of yapping at him and he didn't say anything,

1097
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 1: and so yeah, I just think it would be interesting

1098
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 1: to see what makes that that guy tick. But but

1099
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 1: Prescott as well, I mean, it's yeah, we texted in

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00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 1: do we have we have seven, ten, seventy. Most popular

1101
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 1: answer Larry Fitzgerald since there was the no Seahawk role,

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00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald, I think is one of the most popular ones.

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00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 1: I think he's just so there are so many guys

1104
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 1: in the league that are just so universally respected. Larry

1105
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: Fitzgerald's one of these good where you hear I mean

1106
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: when players are miked up. I've listened to the Seahawks

1107
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 1: miked up when they played the Cardinals. Like, guys are

1108
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 1: talking to him before and after the game during the game.

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00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 1: He's one of those guys that like, you knock him down,

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00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 1: then you help him up. I mean, yeah, I met

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00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 1: him in most respects. I met him at Super Bowl

1112
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 1: forty eight and we did radio with him, and I'll

1113
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 1: never forget after we did at the whole thing. I

1114
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 1: saw him at halftime and can the Seahawks said just

1115
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 1: I think Percy Harvin had just returned the touchdown and

1116
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 1: he comes up to me and he goes, hey, do

1117
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 1: you guys get rings? Like he was earnestly asking me

1118
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:35,240
Speaker 1: this question, and I was like, gosh, I sure, hope

1119
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 1: not I do the pregame radio show. I mean no, no,

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Speaker 1: I didn't think that they should. I think you give

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00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 1: him out too many people. It becomes not special, you know.

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00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, so he is like one of the nicest guys. Dude.

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Speaker 1: That's a great answer. Another popular answer has been gronk.

1124
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 1: And then even though we have the no Seahawks rule,

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00:56:56,120 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: I will allow it. Marshawn Lynch, yeah, yeah, or if

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00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:04,439
Speaker 1: he's talking, if he's talking, if he's in the mood.

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00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 1: I did see Marshawn by the way. You know. This

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00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,760
Speaker 1: was last year. I was on an early, early flight

1129
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 1: to Atlanta and Marshawn all of a sudden, out of nowhere,

1130
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 1: just comes walking by me in the terminal just to

1131
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: get on the same flight as me. But he was

1132
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 1: just hanging out, just with everybody else. And I'm just

1133
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 1: sitting there and I'm wondering, how many people do they

1134
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 1: realize that this is Marshawn Lynch hanging out here but

1135
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 1: just fun to see him right, and you know, just

1136
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 1: like everybody else on commercial their early flight in the morning,

1137
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,919
Speaker 1: those are good answers. Yeah, yeah, those are all really

1138
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 1: you got a good clue in on like who the

1139
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 1: fun personalities or really cool interesting personalities in the NFL.

1140
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 1: Luke Wilson, I'm sure, yes, Luke Wilson is on here

1141
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 1: all right. I'm gonna table the offense conversation, although I

1142
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 1: do want to see if we can get to that.

1143
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 1: What we're gonna do instead, you guys, Seahawks practice is

1144
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 1: wrapping up. We're gonna try to grab LJ. Collier off

1145
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 1: the field talk to him next. We got to ask

1146
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 1: him about that goal line stop. We have to know

1147
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 1: everything that went on in that moment. I cannot wait

1148
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 1: to hear about it. And then we'll see if we

1149
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 1: can grab Jacob Hollister as well for our final segments.

1150
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 1: So first Collier and then Hollister. So don't go anywhere.

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Speaker 1: This is the huddle. This is the huddle every Thursday

1152
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: from noon to two on seven ESPN Seattle. Welcome back

1153
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 1: to the huddle with Dave Wyman, Jake Keeps, and Stacy

1154
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 1: Ross joining us. In just a moment, we'll be second

1155
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 1: year defensive end LJ. Collier part of a big goal

1156
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 1: line stop in the win against the Patriots. Let's go

1157
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 1: back to that moment. Now. From my point of view,

1158
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 1: I was watching from the press box. It was very

1159
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 1: far away. I couldn't really tell what happened, and I

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00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 1: wouldn't have known that there was a stop obviously had

1161
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 1: I not seen Cam Newton swinging in the air and

1162
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 1: then an almost immediate celebration from players. Dave, what did

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00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 1: you see specifically on that play? Yeah, well, first of all,

1164
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 1: Cam Newton ended up entirely upside down and football one

1165
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 1: on one's coming out here in a second. We had

1166
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 1: some delays this week, but I diagrammed that play and

1167
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 1: then we kind of took a look at some still shots,

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00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 1: you know, pictures of it. But the first thing that

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00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 1: happened that wasn't really obvious right away was Bobby Wagner,

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00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 1: and we found out later that they slanted him, and

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00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 1: it was a good thing they did. They slanted the

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00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 1: offensive line to the right because LJ. Collier was lined

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00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 1: up a little bit almost inside of the tackle on

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00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 1: the very end who was actually tied end that reported

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00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 1: eligible who was a big tackle and luckily they slanted

1176
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 1: him and he fought across that, he fought through a

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00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 1: hold and he made a play there. Lano Hill made

1178
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 1: a really good play, but Bobby jumped through a gap

1179
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 1: and knocked off the guard. And so we talked to

1180
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 1: Ray about that earlier that anytime you get penetration then

1181
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 1: in a run game, it kills the play. So you had,

1182
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 1: you know, Lano Hill and on one side and Bobby

1183
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 1: Wagner on the other. Those two guys entirely took not

1184
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 1: only took away going insider outside, but it also just

1185
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 1: constricted the gap down to just a real narrow little

1186
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 1: hallway where Cam Newton could run. And then you know, LJ.

1187
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 1: Callier just makes a brilliant play by getting off the hold,

1188
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 1: which offensive lineman hold. I always tease Ray about this,

1189
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 1: but he was trying to hold him and he just

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01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 1: fought through it. And you know, and when I got

1191
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 1: in the NFL, my coaches would say, and Tom Catlin

1192
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 1: was one of them who we were talking about earlier,

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01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 1: he'd say, don't ever come and complain to me that

1194
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 1: you got held, because you know, you need to take

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01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 1: care of that. Holding is legal in the NFL, and

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01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 1: so you need to figure out how to how to

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Speaker 1: overcome it, and he did on that play. Wasn't going

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01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: to be helped, so it was just a really good

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Speaker 1: play for him. And I hope we get a chance

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01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 1: to talk to him because I'm so happy for LJ. Callier.

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01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 1: I just think I had a very similar experience my

1202
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 1: rookie year where I only gotten in on like three tackles.

1203
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 1: I was injured. It was terrible. I had a bad year.

1204
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 1: I came back my second year and everything just opened

1205
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 1: up for me. And that's what you're seeing from him

1206
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 1: right now. He's made a number of plays. It's not

1207
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 1: just that play, Jake David. My question to you becomes

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Speaker 1: with this group on a pass rushing standpoint. Are we

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01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 1: seeing what this group is right now in terms of

1210
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 1: its four down rush ability? That this group has got

1211
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 1: to be a group that manufactures pressure in terms of

1212
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 1: you know, blitzing and bringing you know, bringing unique blitz

1213
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 1: scheming to each and every single week. Is that the

1214
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 1: way that they're going to have to get this done.

1215
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, not necessarily. I mean, here's the thing

1216
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 1: we talk to Jarren Reid last year and after the

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01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 1: forty nine er game in which they got ten hits

1218
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 1: on the quarterback in five sacks. I asked him what

1219
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 1: the difference was, and he goes, they turned us loose. So,

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01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if if maybe they're not,

1221
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 1: you know, trying to hit gaps and maybe they're doing

1222
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 1: a little bit of two gap where you play a

1223
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 1: guy head up and then you know, all of a

1224
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 1: sudden you have to decide if it's a pass or run.

1225
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 1: Then you start your pass rushing, so you're late. You know,

1226
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 1: there's things like that at that that sometimes go on

1227
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 1: and will cause a problem in your pass rush. But

1228
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:08,920
Speaker 1: you know, I think being creative is probably gonna be

1229
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 1: something they're gonna do anyway, because you have I think

1230
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 1: Jake the best blitzing linebacker in the league in Bobby Wagner,

1231
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 1: and then you get Jamal Adams, who who is really good.

1232
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 1: So and kJ can rush a little bit as well.

1233
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 1: And we'll see what happens with the kid Jordan Brooks.

1234
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, I I yeah, they probably will

1235
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 1: have to manufacture those things, but I don't think that's

1236
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 1: a bad thing, and I think it was going to

1237
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 1: be part of it anyway. What goes into being creative obviously,

1238
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 1: that's very complex to try to explain to someone who

1239
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 1: doesn't play. But when I think being creative, I just think, oh, okay,

1240
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 1: so you're you're blitzing guys you wouldn't normally lift. You're

1241
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 1: you're using Jamal Adams. But but what does it actually

1242
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 1: mean to like get more creative on defense? You come

1243
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 1: from different places, you know, And Jake probably answer this

1244
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 1: better than I can, because you know, like a zone

1245
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 1: blitz is where a lineman will line up on the

1246
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 1: on the line of scrimmage and then all of a

1247
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 1: sudden he'll drop back into coverage where it looks like

1248
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 1: he's gonna, you know, rush the quarterback, and then all

1249
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 1: of a sudden he's dropping into coverage and then you're

1250
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 1: bringing a safety somewhere, and so you know, and even

1251
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 1: those can be like four man five man rushes, not

1252
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 1: like you know, sell the farm type of you know,

1253
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 1: I'm taking bringing seven guys or something like that. You

1254
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 1: can do that kind of creatively, just trying to surprise

1255
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 1: the offensive line. I guess that's the way I would

1256
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 1: put it about you, Jake. Yeah, I would definitely put

1257
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 1: it in that way, and really in a fire zone scheme,

1258
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 1: which is what the Seahawks are now trying to do

1259
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 1: in a lot of different ways. Is you have to

1260
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:38,760
Speaker 1: have three underneath defenders, and you have to have three

1261
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 1: people deep. That's typically what you see from a fire

1262
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 1: zone type of defense. But as Dave described it, you

1263
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 1: are trying to disguise who is coming from where, and

1264
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:54,400
Speaker 1: that is lining guys up in different spots. So if

1265
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 1: you notice Bobby Wagner, sometimes he's going to be head

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Speaker 1: up over the center. Sometimes he's gonna be lined up

1267
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Speaker 1: in a guard gap, or Jamal Adams is going to

1268
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 1: be lined up on the outside to the left or

1269
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 1: right or in the middle. You're just trying to grab

1270
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 1: eyes of the offensive line. And along with that, you're

1271
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 1: using twists and stunts by your defensive lineman. So it's

1272
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:18,959
Speaker 1: just as it's not your typical way of your normal

1273
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 1: way of just hey, we're gonna rush our down linemen

1274
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 1: and they're gonna go from point A to point B

1275
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 1: and try and beat the guy in front of them.

1276
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 1: They're going to try and create confusion which would then

1277
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 1: allow someone to come open. And it happened multiple times

1278
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 1: in this game. And I do agree with Pete Carroll

1279
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 1: that there were some missed opportunities out there in terms

1280
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 1: of getting sacks. I mean, the one that stands out

1281
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 1: to me was Jamal Adams. It worked out perfectly where

1282
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:46,600
Speaker 1: kJ Wright and Jamal Adams are the ones that are

1283
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 1: bringing the pressure. The offensive line is confused by it

1284
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 1: and the running backs confused by it. So an offensive

1285
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 1: lineman and a running back go to pick up kJ

1286
01:04:56,280 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 1: Wright where they then you turn loose Jamal Adams, so

1287
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:03,920
Speaker 1: that confusion leaves a wide open player to get to

1288
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 1: the quarterback. Now he's just got to finish his job.

1289
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 1: So I think they've done a pretty good job of

1290
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 1: this the first two weeks um, and the only time

1291
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 1: it becomes concerning is when they get in those two

1292
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 1: minute modes Dave, where you're not in that mode and

1293
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 1: ability where you can bring that type of pressure. You

1294
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 1: got to rely more on your four down linemen to

1295
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 1: to facilitate that. Now, is this something where through two

1296
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 1: games you've seen way more creativity where it's starting to

1297
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 1: look like they're heading in a different direction, or is

1298
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 1: this something they're also doing in response to injuries in

1299
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 1: the in the lack of you know, consistent pressure pressure

1300
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 1: they've been able to bring. I mean, is it a

1301
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 1: mix of both a little bit. Is it just you

1302
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 1: have to get creative when when what you've been doing

1303
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 1: isn't working. Yeah, I feel like they're trying to use

1304
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 1: they're trying to get the best players on the field,

1305
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 1: and they're trying to use them in the best way

1306
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 1: they possibly can. Yeah. So yeah, the things with Jamal

1307
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 1: Adams put it, Yeah, I don't know why you would

1308
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 1: stop doing what you're doing with him, right, I mean,

1309
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 1: he's got tackles for loss and you know, you almost

1310
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 1: had another sack, you know, so he's got two now.

1311
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think it's it's going to be that

1312
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:15,479
Speaker 1: get those guys on the field the best group, because

1313
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 1: that's why they ran bass last year, because they put

1314
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 1: their best group. They did not have a nickel cover guy.

1315
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 1: They just didn't and so they put linebackers out there

1316
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 1: and ran zone and less man and man coverage because

1317
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 1: they thought they and I agreed with him, I thought

1318
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 1: they had the best players on the field. Kendricks was

1319
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 1: was better than any defensive back that they had that

1320
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 1: they would put in as a nickel player. So now,

1321
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 1: I mean your strength and unfortunately it's down one player

1322
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 1: with Marquise Blair, which is just such a shame. But

1323
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 1: you know, your your best players are defensive backs on

1324
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:49,200
Speaker 1: this field, and I think Ugo I'm audio, proved that

1325
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 1: because he had a really good camp too. And when

1326
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 1: your second string guy comes in and gets eight tackles

1327
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 1: the way he did, then yeah, you've got a deep

1328
01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:00,480
Speaker 1: group there. All right. We've been able to get ahold

1329
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 1: of LJ. Caulier off of the practice field. LJ. How

1330
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:10,560
Speaker 1: are you? Oh, LJ? Do we have you? Yeah? I'm

1331
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 1: here all right. Um, just just quickly, I have to

1332
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 1: ask you, can you walk us through that goal line? Stop? Um?

1333
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 1: I know you can't tell us everything, but can you

1334
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 1: take us back to that moment, what you heard, what

1335
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 1: you saw, what it was like? Uh? Man, we had

1336
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 1: got back to the to the huddle. Bobby told us

1337
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 1: that we were going to be slanting on that one

1338
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 1: and uh because we've been gold on a few times

1339
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:33,680
Speaker 1: a day and they didn't change that what they were

1340
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 1: going to run. So we slanted and I happened to

1341
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:39,080
Speaker 1: be there and I've seen Cam coming and Plano made

1342
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 1: a good Uh he's at the edge on the outside,

1343
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 1: and I just happened to make a good play. It

1344
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 1: was just really a good team effort, LJ, is it

1345
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 1: still rip or liz or what's your code word for

1346
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:53,439
Speaker 1: fort slanting? Yeah? Yeah, it was just rip. Yeah yeah,

1347
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:56,520
Speaker 1: Oh well thanks haven't changed And what's it been twenty

1348
01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 1: five years for me now? So but I love that.

1349
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 1: I'm so happy for you, LJ. I had a similar

1350
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:05,160
Speaker 1: rookie year or I was injured, I was only in

1351
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 1: on a few tackles. I was starting to question myself.

1352
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 1: I came back my second year and everything just clicked

1353
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 1: for me and it happened. And I see that that

1354
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:16,720
Speaker 1: happening to you, um and really happy for you to

1355
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:19,720
Speaker 1: kind of explain how different it was coming back your

1356
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 1: second year. You know, it was different, you know, do

1357
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 1: with all the COVID stuff and on that. But I

1358
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 1: had him the mindset and play that was gonna come

1359
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 1: out here. I was gonna get down on myself and

1360
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 1: I was gonna play hard every day. You know, I'm

1361
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 1: a year a year end. I knew what to expecting

1362
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 1: to where we're gonna be doing. I knew I needed

1363
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:37,679
Speaker 1: to fix. I tried to fix those things the best

1364
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:42,559
Speaker 1: I could. You know, LJ, It's it's really been fun

1365
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 1: to watch you affect the game in different ways. You know,

1366
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:49,439
Speaker 1: Week one, h You're able to u deflect the shop

1367
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:52,000
Speaker 1: block that was at your legs. You handle that really well.

1368
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:54,040
Speaker 1: You're able to get to Matt Ryan and force him

1369
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 1: to make a poor decision. And then you know this

1370
01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:00,640
Speaker 1: this past week, you have a batted ball and then

1371
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:03,439
Speaker 1: you're able to you know, make the goal line stand

1372
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:05,479
Speaker 1: and help be a part of that moment. You know,

1373
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:08,320
Speaker 1: what are all those things being attributed to? Is that

1374
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:10,920
Speaker 1: individual work that you put in in this off season?

1375
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:12,880
Speaker 1: Is it you know, working with Clint Hurt? Is it

1376
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 1: you know, the other guys around you that have helped

1377
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 1: you know, mentor you along the way. What would you

1378
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 1: attribute that to? I attribute it tomal work in the

1379
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 1: off season. I really just worked on getting my weight

1380
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 1: down and everything like that, working gonna get off my

1381
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:27,559
Speaker 1: hands and everything like that. And yes, Coach Hurt has

1382
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 1: helped me a lot too as well, with our staying

1383
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 1: coming in him and Coach d Lou before coming out

1384
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:35,640
Speaker 1: after practice and before working hands and things like that,

1385
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 1: and it's really been a big help. Hey, Ljay that

1386
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 1: celebration afterwards, it would have been really cool if the

1387
01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:45,639
Speaker 1: fans had all been there and everything. But you guys

1388
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:47,840
Speaker 1: made a good amount of noise down there. Talk about

1389
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:50,600
Speaker 1: you know, Jamal Adams and some of the veterans and

1390
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 1: the enthusiasm. This this looks like a fun group to

1391
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:57,759
Speaker 1: play in your defense. Oh yeah, Jamal, you know Bobby,

1392
01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:00,920
Speaker 1: those guys that bring a lot of energy, Bruce the talkative,

1393
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:03,760
Speaker 1: the loud, the scream. You know, it's fun to play

1394
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 1: a defense with these guys. It's been a fun year

1395
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 1: so far, and you know we're just getting started something.

1396
01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:12,559
Speaker 1: I'm eager to see where the rest of the season goes. LJ.

1397
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 1: You guys are on preparation for the Dallas Cowboys. Now

1398
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:18,720
Speaker 1: what have you guys been noticing about this group? And

1399
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 1: how excited are you guys for this? This matchup your year?

1400
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 1: You know NFC matchup, This is a big one. They're

1401
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:28,640
Speaker 1: a talented football team all across the board. You know,

1402
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:30,600
Speaker 1: great old larn They have some injuries, but you know,

1403
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:32,680
Speaker 1: you still can't knock them for that. There's still a

1404
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:34,640
Speaker 1: good football team. They have a great quarterback, they have

1405
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:36,639
Speaker 1: a great receiving corps, and they have a damn good

1406
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 1: running back. So we have to take this game seriously.

1407
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:40,680
Speaker 1: You know this, guys, come here, we have to play

1408
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:42,680
Speaker 1: every down hard, and we have to know what to

1409
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:44,920
Speaker 1: expect because this isn't gonna be a pushover game. There's

1410
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 1: still talented football team and we got to our minds, right, OLJ.

1411
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:51,519
Speaker 1: How do you feel like the defensive line is coming

1412
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:56,000
Speaker 1: along in general? It's like we're coming along farm. I

1413
01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:58,400
Speaker 1: feel like we're gonna People are really down on us

1414
01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 1: right now, but I'm like we're gonna come along, especial

1415
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 1: this week. I's like we're gonna put some things together

1416
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:03,519
Speaker 1: and we're gonna get some rushes this week. We get

1417
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 1: some sacks out there, and we're gonna put it up there.

1418
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 1: It's like when they all comes down to an indu season,

1419
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 1: We're gonna do what we need to do and it's

1420
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:11,760
Speaker 1: gonna all play out. So you definitely feel like there's

1421
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 1: just there's more here that you guys haven't seen. Yeah,

1422
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 1: I'm sure. It's like we haven't packed the service on

1423
01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:20,000
Speaker 1: how bill we can be. So we're still all figuring

1424
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 1: each other out and everything like that, but you know,

1425
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:24,840
Speaker 1: not being able to come in for OTAs and some

1426
01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:29,760
Speaker 1: workouts and stuff like that, so we're gonna get together. Yeah, LJ,

1427
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 1: you chopped down one of the hugest running backs in

1428
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:35,479
Speaker 1: NFL history. I've been down on the field and seeing

1429
01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:41,719
Speaker 1: Cam Newton walk around. That guy is enormous. Man. What's

1430
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:43,680
Speaker 1: he like on the field? I asked Lano Hill the

1431
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:47,240
Speaker 1: same question, just because he seems like he's a little

1432
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:49,639
Speaker 1: bit calmer. He didn't seem to talk a whole lot,

1433
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:53,320
Speaker 1: But man, that guy is just a monster. Oh yeah,

1434
01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 1: he's talking to me to help a player. Man, And

1435
01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 1: he's active. He's the energetic and brings the guys along.

1436
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:00,640
Speaker 1: They like him, he likes them. You know, he's in

1437
01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 1: the position evam for a reason. You know, he's a

1438
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:06,959
Speaker 1: good player, hell of an athlete. LJ. We really appreciate

1439
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 1: you taking the time. Thanks so much, No, thank you, guys.

1440
01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:13,880
Speaker 1: All Right, we'll see if we can get a hold

1441
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:16,560
Speaker 1: of Jacob Hollister. If not, let's get back to just

1442
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 1: doing one final preview of this game. This is the huddle.

1443
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 1: This is the Huddle every Thursday from noon to two

1444
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:30,320
Speaker 1: on seven ESPN Seattle. Welcome back to the huddle with

1445
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 1: Dave Wyman, Jake Heaves, and Stacy Ross to joining us.

1446
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:36,760
Speaker 1: Now tight end Jacob Hollister. Jacob, thanks so much for

1447
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 1: joining us. I have to ask just how you felt

1448
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:43,679
Speaker 1: in that moment during that last second win on Sunday,

1449
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 1: oh the Wild. Yeah, that was obviously a really close

1450
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:50,280
Speaker 1: game and came down to the wire. I was just

1451
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:54,479
Speaker 1: excited because our defensis did a great job there. But yeah,

1452
01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:56,759
Speaker 1: I was just excited. It was an awesome moment. Hey, Jacob,

1453
01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 1: I want to ask real quick, how's your twin brother

1454
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:02,679
Speaker 1: Cody doing it? He's still with them? He's good. Yeah,

1455
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:05,800
Speaker 1: he's he's still over with the Titans. He started the

1456
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 1: year off on the fifty three and then he got released.

1457
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 1: He's signed back with their practice squad again. So he's

1458
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 1: over there. He's doing well and he's loving it over

1459
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 1: in Nashville. Good, good deal. Glad to hear that. Hey,

1460
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 1: tell us, what's that like going against your your former team?

1461
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 1: I mean it was crazy, honestly because they've been obviously

1462
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:26,679
Speaker 1: I didn't play him last year. Um, and just seeing

1463
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 1: a bunch of those guys that I spent two years

1464
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 1: with along with the coaches, and you know, it was

1465
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 1: a different, different experience for sure, But I thought it

1466
01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:37,519
Speaker 1: was pretty cool getting the face guys like Matthew Slater

1467
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 1: and a lot of these guys that I played with

1468
01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:43,519
Speaker 1: for a while. So it was pretty cool. Jacob, haven't

1469
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 1: had a chance to talk with you in a little while.

1470
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:48,760
Speaker 1: What was this offseason like for you as you were,

1471
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 1: you know, getting prepared in the most unique circumstances possible.

1472
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:56,599
Speaker 1: I'm sorry I missed you there. What'd you say? Oh,

1473
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:59,160
Speaker 1: that's okay. I was asking what was it like for

1474
01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 1: you getting prepared haired for this season under the most

1475
01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:06,599
Speaker 1: unique circumstances possible. Yeah, Honestly, for me, it was awesome

1476
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 1: because I was back in Bend, Oregan just one of

1477
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:12,320
Speaker 1: the best places on earth, and me and my brother

1478
01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 1: were just renting a house over there, and once all

1479
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:21,080
Speaker 1: the quarantine stuff happened, we just a train over there. Kevin, Boss,

1480
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:24,640
Speaker 1: you let us just take whatever equipment we wanted and

1481
01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:27,200
Speaker 1: we put it in our garage over there, And I mean,

1482
01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:28,519
Speaker 1: that was a lot of fun for us. It took

1483
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:31,400
Speaker 1: us back to the Duco days where Arizona Western. We're

1484
01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:33,600
Speaker 1: just making some of our workouts and doing some of

1485
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:36,719
Speaker 1: the workouts the boss had for us and still getting

1486
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:38,960
Speaker 1: all our work done during the day. So it was

1487
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 1: a lot of fun, honestly. And then obviously being in Bend, Oregon,

1488
01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:44,400
Speaker 1: there's a lot to do outdoors. And all that. So

1489
01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:46,479
Speaker 1: it was really a great time just getting to spend

1490
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:48,559
Speaker 1: it with my sisters and my brother and my family

1491
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 1: over there. You all as an offense as a whole,

1492
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 1: have just you just look like you're in the zone

1493
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 1: for the first two weeks. I mean, everything, you know,

1494
01:14:57,120 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 1: at least from the outside, looks like it's firing on

1495
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:02,000
Speaker 1: all cylinders. How does it feel being out there? I mean,

1496
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 1: is it just like a great offseason? I mean, how

1497
01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:07,600
Speaker 1: have these first two weeks felt like for just the

1498
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 1: entire offense? Yeah, I think that, Um, what what spotlighted

1499
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:17,120
Speaker 1: is just the communication. We've had a lot of opportunity

1500
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:20,320
Speaker 1: this offseason to have a really good communication. I think

1501
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:23,680
Speaker 1: that was part of having those zoom meetings because we

1502
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:26,160
Speaker 1: had we really had more meeting time than we usually

1503
01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 1: would have had an irregular OTAs and all that. So

1504
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:33,439
Speaker 1: a guy got to communicate a lot, to share information,

1505
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:36,639
Speaker 1: and I think that's just relaying to the field. Now.

1506
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:41,360
Speaker 1: Jacob Russell just gets better and better every year. What

1507
01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:44,200
Speaker 1: have you noticed about his growth? One thing, it seems

1508
01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:47,600
Speaker 1: like he's got a little bit more zip on his fastball,

1509
01:15:47,800 --> 01:15:51,679
Speaker 1: but you know he's probably always thrown it obviously thrown

1510
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 1: it well, but what are some of the things that

1511
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:57,640
Speaker 1: you've seen him improve in this offseason? Yeah. I mean

1512
01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:01,160
Speaker 1: that's what's crazy about about Russ is you know, right

1513
01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:03,400
Speaker 1: when you think that he can't get much better, he's

1514
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:05,760
Speaker 1: getting better. And I think that just goes to say

1515
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 1: that he's he really taking no days off and he

1516
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:11,720
Speaker 1: puts every single moment that he can into football. And um,

1517
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:13,400
Speaker 1: you know that's the reason that he's the best in

1518
01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:15,720
Speaker 1: the game right now is because he's just uh, he

1519
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:18,040
Speaker 1: works out it every single day and he really just

1520
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:22,960
Speaker 1: wasted no time. You know, there's been talk about you

1521
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:26,360
Speaker 1: know him really from from my co host here Stacy had,

1522
01:16:26,439 --> 01:16:28,800
Speaker 1: you know, saying that Russell looks like he's playing with

1523
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:31,080
Speaker 1: a little bit more fire, a little bit more intensity,

1524
01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit more anger. Does it feel that

1525
01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:36,000
Speaker 1: way to you guys in the building or is it

1526
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:39,160
Speaker 1: just Russ Bey and russ Um It just it just

1527
01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:41,920
Speaker 1: seems like he's playing with a little bit more intensity

1528
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:45,200
Speaker 1: just in the in the approach that he has with

1529
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:49,040
Speaker 1: you know, not just you know, the media or the public,

1530
01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 1: but behind closed doors as well. Yeah. From my perspective,

1531
01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:56,720
Speaker 1: you know, he's always had that and and uh, you know,

1532
01:16:56,800 --> 01:16:59,880
Speaker 1: he's definitely just playing with a ton of passion this year.

1533
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:02,880
Speaker 1: I've obviously only been here for you know, a year

1534
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:05,320
Speaker 1: and a half now, but um, the passion that he

1535
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:09,519
Speaker 1: plays with just really brings guys along. Because, um, even

1536
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 1: even a guy who's not feeling it so much that day,

1537
01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:13,760
Speaker 1: you can't you can't help but to feel it. When

1538
01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:15,840
Speaker 1: Russ is in the huddle and playing with a lot

1539
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:18,160
Speaker 1: of passion, you see in his eyes. So he really

1540
01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 1: uh you know, that's the most impressive part is that

1541
01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 1: he brings so many guys along with him. Hey, Jake,

1542
01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 1: what was it like playing without fans? I feel like

1543
01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:28,679
Speaker 1: watching it you kind of forgot, but I can't imagine

1544
01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:31,760
Speaker 1: what it was like for you guys. Yeah it was.

1545
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:35,600
Speaker 1: I think the only weird part is when there's just

1546
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:39,040
Speaker 1: complete silence, like there's a there's a turn in uh

1547
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:42,519
Speaker 1: you know, turning downs or whatever from or a rollover

1548
01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 1: from special teams to the offense or whatever. Um, I

1549
01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 1: don't really realize it too much until um, until that moment,

1550
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:52,880
Speaker 1: or when someone scores, because obviously when someone scores, you

1551
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:55,479
Speaker 1: used to people because going crazy. But that's what's so

1552
01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:58,200
Speaker 1: cool about our team is everybody has so much energy

1553
01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:00,519
Speaker 1: on the sidelines where you still feel that. So it's

1554
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:03,960
Speaker 1: pretty cool, but definitely definitely miss having those those stands

1555
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:06,879
Speaker 1: out there. Are you able to pick up like calls?

1556
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:08,800
Speaker 1: I mean there's there's things on the field now that

1557
01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:11,320
Speaker 1: are being said that you can hear, now, right, I mean,

1558
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:12,920
Speaker 1: and you have to do you guys kind of have

1559
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 1: to disguise some of your stuff because of that. Oh yeah,

1560
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 1: I mean you just gotta be smart about it and uh,

1561
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:22,439
Speaker 1: communication with signals and just making sure that we're on

1562
01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:24,600
Speaker 1: top of everything. But at the same time, it's been

1563
01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:27,800
Speaker 1: nice as an offense just being able to um hear

1564
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:31,080
Speaker 1: communication really well, not only with Russ but with the

1565
01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:36,320
Speaker 1: olon and everything. So, um, that's been awesome, all right, Jacob.

1566
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:39,519
Speaker 1: I just at one one quick thing, Jacob, I know

1567
01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:42,880
Speaker 1: em saw that you posted something in during quarantine that

1568
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 1: you're doing some collapse in terms of singing and playing music.

1569
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 1: How how big a part of that is part of

1570
01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:53,559
Speaker 1: your life? It's a huge part. Yeah. I started, Um,

1571
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:57,640
Speaker 1: I started playing guitar two years ago. My brother, my

1572
01:18:57,760 --> 01:19:00,880
Speaker 1: brother Cody, started playing a couple of years before me,

1573
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 1: and he started teaching me a couple of years ago.

1574
01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 1: And you know, music has always been a part of

1575
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:09,439
Speaker 1: our life and my dad. You know, I'll start with

1576
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:13,320
Speaker 1: my dad just singing, singing us kids to sleep pretty

1577
01:19:13,400 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 1: much every night, and playing guitar, and um, so we've

1578
01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:19,679
Speaker 1: always sang and been a part of that. But yeah,

1579
01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:21,920
Speaker 1: music is definitely a really big part of my life

1580
01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:24,000
Speaker 1: and really my whole family obviously my brother and my

1581
01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:27,240
Speaker 1: sisters too. But um that's that's a creat to my

1582
01:19:27,320 --> 01:19:29,400
Speaker 1: brother pushing me there and and now I just I

1583
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:31,200
Speaker 1: love it. I love playing guitar. I love you know,

1584
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:33,400
Speaker 1: writing songs and all that. Man, that's a really cool

1585
01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:36,479
Speaker 1: skill to have to like. I'm I'm very jealous, not

1586
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:39,519
Speaker 1: even hiding any of that. All right, Jacob, thank you

1587
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 1: so much for joining us. Yeah, exactly, I should give

1588
01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 1: it a shot. We appreciate it. Yeah, I appreciate thanks

1589
01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:49,840
Speaker 1: for having me. All right, this has been the huddle. Um, Dave,

1590
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:53,080
Speaker 1: we're kicking you out, okay, you much just for an

1591
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:56,120
Speaker 1: hour though, Uh. Dave will be back for Bob David

1592
01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:58,400
Speaker 1: Moore at three pm. Tom Jake and Stacy is next.

1593
01:19:58,520 --> 01:19:59,439
Speaker 1: This has been the huddle.