WEBVTT - The Swift Effect

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<v Speaker 1>This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Harrison and Lauren Zema coming to you from the

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<v Speaker 1>home office in Austin, Texas. It is good to be back.

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<v Speaker 1>We spent the weekend LZ up at Parents Weekend at TCU.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so much fun, except for all the sweating.

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<v Speaker 1>Is so hot. Why do they have Parents Weekend in

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<v Speaker 1>Texas in the middle of September It is one of

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<v Speaker 1>the hottest months. And not to get down this rabbit hole,

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<v Speaker 1>but it should be illegal to have eleven am college

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<v Speaker 1>football games. We're not playing ayso soccer. What like when

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<v Speaker 1>you're a parent and you have its kids, ayso soccer,

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<v Speaker 1>it's you soccer. When you are playing ayso soccer. Your

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<v Speaker 1>kids have the like ungodly seven thirty eight am, nine

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<v Speaker 1>am games. That's fine your kids are Yet these children

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<v Speaker 1>are in college. Stop with the eleven am games. It

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<v Speaker 1>should be illegal. It's only about the TV money and

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<v Speaker 1>it drives.

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<v Speaker 2>Me for but they have to write what other choice

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<v Speaker 2>do they have because they got to broadcast all these games.

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<v Speaker 1>The schools have no say that's the problem. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>it's the networks, and I like that we pretend whatsoever

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<v Speaker 1>to care about children when it's one hundred and eight

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<v Speaker 1>degrees outside. We have lights in the stadium. If you

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<v Speaker 1>really cared about any of the kids, the game would

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<v Speaker 1>be at night.

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<v Speaker 2>But truly, what choice do they have because don't. Isn't

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<v Speaker 2>it like the networks have to brives all these games

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<v Speaker 2>and a lot of games to fit in.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, they just have say and when you like you

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<v Speaker 1>have no say, the week of or two weeks before

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<v Speaker 1>they get to they dictate to you. Your game is

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<v Speaker 1>at eleven am, your games at seven thirty at night.

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<v Speaker 1>Your game is at two they tell you. Now again,

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<v Speaker 1>if we cared it all about children, you would not

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<v Speaker 1>play these games in the heat of the afternoon.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't understand. What do you have a solution to this?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're not allowed.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't the games need to be broadcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they can still be broadcasts. You just have to

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<v Speaker 1>pile them up at seven o'clock at night or it's

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<v Speaker 1>all going to be on at the same it's not

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<v Speaker 1>this hot across the country geographically space based thing.

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<v Speaker 2>That's interesting. Okay, So you're saying go buy temperature, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and broadcast those games based on temperature.

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<v Speaker 1>For human existency, I think there should be a temperature loophole.

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<v Speaker 1>If it is over ninety degrees, that school is not

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<v Speaker 1>allowed to play until nighttime.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually that's a good idea. Okay, I mean, listen, you

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<v Speaker 2>know I'm not jones in to get up at nine

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<v Speaker 2>am for a football game. Here's my issue. I know

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<v Speaker 2>I've ent about sports too much, but already football is

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<v Speaker 2>at least four hours. Already, football is a black hole

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<v Speaker 2>of time. When you say there's a minute left in

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<v Speaker 2>the game, it's really twenty. Then you add on top

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<v Speaker 2>of it the tailgating, that's like another two hours. Then

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<v Speaker 2>when you put it early in the day, it's your

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<v Speaker 2>entire day because by the afternoon you're out, you're dehydrated,

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<v Speaker 2>You've probably had a couple drinks to get through the

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<v Speaker 2>boringness that is sports, and so now it's like your

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<v Speaker 2>whole day. If it's at night, at least I can

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<v Speaker 2>get up, go work out, we can like have a

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<v Speaker 2>brunch and then I can go to the football game. Thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But despite the fact that the network screwed us over

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<v Speaker 1>and TCU beat the pants off of SMU and the

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<v Speaker 1>final Iron Skillet matchup, we had a great time. We

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<v Speaker 1>went into town, went into Fort Worth. It is my

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<v Speaker 1>son's last parents weekend. He's a senior, Taylor, our daughter sophomore,

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<v Speaker 1>so we got a couple more. But we went to

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<v Speaker 1>second rodeo down in the stockyards, which was awesome Fort.

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<v Speaker 2>Worth, Texas. Yes, it's all so fun. I think what

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<v Speaker 2>makes me so happy about it is that the kids

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<v Speaker 2>want their parents to see the life they've built for themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>They want us to meet their friends and see where

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<v Speaker 2>they go out and see their dorm rooms. And I

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<v Speaker 2>remember that feeling of wanting your parents to come seeking.

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<v Speaker 1>You're so proud.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you want them to be proud of you. You

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<v Speaker 2>want them to be impressed and know that you've got

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<v Speaker 2>good people in your life. And the fact that it's

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<v Speaker 2>flown by so quickly for Josh, because we kept saying, gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>how is it already parents weekend of his senior year.

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<v Speaker 2>I vividly remember the day we moved him in, but

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<v Speaker 2>also a you know, time flies when you're having fun.

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<v Speaker 2>The fact that it has been over in a half

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<v Speaker 2>a second means it went well, So it's a good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>We had a great time with the kids, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>met their friends and went out to great dinners and

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<v Speaker 1>may have stopped by a couple of bars. So it

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<v Speaker 1>was a great, very successful parents weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>It was well, that's another thing about the heat though.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I get work because some people bring siblings,

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<v Speaker 2>bring grandparents on these weekends. You got these grandparents out

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<v Speaker 2>there tilgating in the heat.

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<v Speaker 1>Was everybody left.

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<v Speaker 2>I literally saw a grandfather. We were at the tailgate

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<v Speaker 2>and a grandfather asked assuming his grandson if there was water,

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<v Speaker 2>and he said, the kid goes no, but I can

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<v Speaker 2>get you a white claw. I'm like, oh god, we're

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<v Speaker 2>giving this elderman a law and he's just dehydrated.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh lord, Okay, we were at a tailgate at nine am.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the other thing that absolutely sucks. Tailgating is not

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<v Speaker 1>meant for breakfast tacos. But Parents' Weekend was great if

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't get a chance. We did a what I

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<v Speaker 1>thought was going to be actually more controversial. It did

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<v Speaker 1>strike a nerve. Elsie and I did a podcast about

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<v Speaker 1>taking your partner's last name once you get married. I

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<v Speaker 1>really thought that people were going to come at us

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<v Speaker 1>more than they did. There was a lot of agreement

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<v Speaker 1>in what you said. People really appreciated you taking that

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<v Speaker 1>stand and talking about this subject that apparently we're not

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<v Speaker 1>talking about enough because a lot of people agree with

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<v Speaker 1>you and that it's kind of a passe tradition. It's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of something that should be left up to you,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not that big of a deal if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to take your partner's name.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, good, I'm glad, because let's think about it. If

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<v Speaker 2>trap this Kelsey Yes and Taylor Swift get married, would

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<v Speaker 2>she Taylor.

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<v Speaker 1>Lse No, No, I don't want to. I am a Swiftie.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a Kelsey. That just doesn't it doesn't even work. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and Elz just opened up the playbook we wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about. I mean, what shut down the NFL overshadowed

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL shut down, the Internet broke the world. This

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<v Speaker 1>weekend was Taylor Swift in the box at the Kansas

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<v Speaker 1>City Chiefs game with not just Travis Kelcey watching with

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<v Speaker 1>Travis Kelcey's mom. Yeah, sitting there watching the game.

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<v Speaker 2>So what did that say to you? It says to me,

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<v Speaker 2>I think we're opening up the playbook. I think we're

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<v Speaker 2>just we're doing this podcast to talk about what is

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<v Speaker 2>like the biggest headline of the week.

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<v Speaker 1>It says to me, Taylor Swift is beyond the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>star in the world right now. Yeah, and I know

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<v Speaker 1>we joke about sports and all that, but the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>is a fifty million pound gorilla. It is a behemoth

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<v Speaker 1>in ratings, in social media, in every aspect it dominates.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody will be anywhere near a Sunday or a Monday

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<v Speaker 1>or Thursday night because it's owned by the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>Right as much as we talk about the decline of

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<v Speaker 2>broadcast TV, live football has survived.

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<v Speaker 1>That decline, Taylor Swift just kicked it right square in

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<v Speaker 1>the you know what and dominated it well.

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<v Speaker 2>And what I loved is that they embraced it. The NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was the NFL accounts changed to like

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL Taylor's version, like she did with her music.

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<v Speaker 2>They changed their profile to that. The Kansas City Chiefs

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<v Speaker 2>were having fun with it on their official accounts.

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<v Speaker 1>Like Bill Belichick, the coach of the Patriots, who couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be more serious, like I mean, the most cerebral, serious,

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<v Speaker 1>let's have no fun in our life kind of guy.

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<v Speaker 1>He made a joke about Travis Kelcey's made some big

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<v Speaker 1>catches in his life. This was easily the biggest catch.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it permeated everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and I'm so glad that that was your takeaway

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<v Speaker 2>and it makes me happy and I think speaks to again,

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<v Speaker 2>like the moment that Taylor's having, in the moment that

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<v Speaker 2>women are having, like to be able to say, look,

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<v Speaker 2>this woman is the biggest superstar in the world right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody so. Patrick Mahomes is obviously the quarterback for the Chiefs.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the biggest star in the NFL right now. They

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<v Speaker 1>were all looking up into the box during the game,

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<v Speaker 1>giggling like they were twelve year old boys and the

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<v Speaker 1>cute girl was up there. I mean, it really took

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<v Speaker 1>us back to high school, junior high days where we

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<v Speaker 1>were crushing on the girl and your buddies are point

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<v Speaker 1>and at her.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of people on social media were sort of saying,

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<v Speaker 2>this is like the romance that I've been waiting to watch.

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<v Speaker 2>Like a rom com, it does, and you write it

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<v Speaker 2>has that Americana kind of like Miss Americana and the

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<v Speaker 2>hopefully not heartbreak prints, but it's the f fotball player

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<v Speaker 2>and the cheerleader. It's that kind of lure, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's why people really liked it.

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<v Speaker 1>I forget who said it. You know, it was on

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<v Speaker 1>social media who had on their twenty twenty three Bingo

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<v Speaker 1>card Taylor Swift jumping up and I'm going to keep

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<v Speaker 1>his family friendly. But after a Kelsey touchdown was screaming LFG,

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<v Speaker 1>whoever had that on their Bingo card, you win because

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<v Speaker 1>nobody else had that. In twenty twenty three. Travis Kelsey

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<v Speaker 1>did score a touchdown, and this hole started a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of weeks ago. Well, I'll beyond that. When he was

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the friendship bracelet and kind of hitting and

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<v Speaker 1>flirting with Taylor.

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<v Speaker 2>He had tried, he'd made gone, he'd gone to see

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<v Speaker 2>Taylor Swift, put his phone.

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<v Speaker 1>Number on Ahead stadium.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, at Arrowhead, put his phone number on a friendship

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<v Speaker 2>bracelet and tried to be able to get it to

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<v Speaker 2>or he couldn't. But then that's and this sort of

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<v Speaker 2>him sort of publicly pursuing her started. He shared that story,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, on his podcast and then he said, look,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Taylor, I went to see you at Arrowhead,

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<v Speaker 2>how about you come see me at Arrowhead. Obviously, something

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<v Speaker 2>went down in the DMS or something, and she wound

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<v Speaker 2>up in his suite at this.

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<v Speaker 1>Game with mom.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, a lot of people have pointed out Taylor meets

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<v Speaker 2>the moms. There's a lot of photos of her with

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<v Speaker 2>her ex Tom Hollinds mom.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>She's written about, you know, hearing about childhood stories, presumably

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<v Speaker 2>Jake Jillenhall's parents telling her about him playing te ball,

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<v Speaker 2>Like she's a parents meeter.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, they're the haters out there. Taylor

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<v Speaker 1>Swift is an Eagles fan. She's a Philly girl. She

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<v Speaker 1>talked about in her songs wearing a Philly T shirt.

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<v Speaker 1>Stop stop with the hate. In this day and age,

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<v Speaker 1>we can have our hometown teams, like for example, I

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<v Speaker 1>love the Dallas Cowboys. I love the Texas Rangers. We

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<v Speaker 1>get to know Justin Turner. We get to know certain people,

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<v Speaker 1>and you follow these people in your fans. She's on

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<v Speaker 1>a date for crying out loud. What do you expect

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<v Speaker 1>her to do root for the Eagles who weren't even

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<v Speaker 1>playing that day?

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, isn't his brother on the Eagles? He is? Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so that's kind of funny.

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<v Speaker 1>The other Kelsey is on the Eagles. Yeah, that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of funny. Now I will admit I did not know. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>there's also a funny aspect here of like now the

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<v Speaker 2>Taylor Swift fans are trying to explain football to each other, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>because like, look, I'm not a sports I don't understand football.

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<v Speaker 2>But they're rallying behind her and saying, maybe we have

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<v Speaker 2>to understand football now if she's going to date Travis.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't realize how big of a star he is.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, he is a huge star as far as he's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the best tight ends, which is his position

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<v Speaker 1>in the league.

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<v Speaker 2>I sort of when I started to know him was

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<v Speaker 2>when it did go and kind of go everywhere, the

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<v Speaker 2>story of him and his brother playing against each other. Ye,

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<v Speaker 2>like I start to know about athletes when they transcend

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<v Speaker 2>sports news and into sort of more celebrity or like

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<v Speaker 2>lifestyle news. And I knew there was that cute story

0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:05.800
<v Speaker 2>about him and his brother playing each other and the

0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:08.080
<v Speaker 2>mom wearing the split jersey. So that was cute.

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<v Speaker 1>And so Travis Kelsey is a big star, but not

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<v Speaker 1>like this he was. You know, the fact that he

0:12:13.679 --> 0:12:16.680
<v Speaker 1>plays for Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs is

0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:20.319
<v Speaker 1>everything to him to be in that orbit because Mahomes

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<v Speaker 1>is the star. He's the biggest star in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>But Kelsey is really on the rise right now. He

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<v Speaker 1>has like I want to say, six or seven endorsement

0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:33.840
<v Speaker 1>deals going right now. Did you see the impact that

0:12:33.840 --> 0:12:35.439
<v Speaker 1>Taylor Swift had on his merch.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like his jerseys were up four hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Four one hundred percent. Travis Kelcey merch went through the

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<v Speaker 1>roof this week. Everybody is buying his stuff. And when

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<v Speaker 1>I say everybody, it's Swifties. All the Kansas City fans

0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:53.000
<v Speaker 1>already had their Mahomes or Kelsey jerseys. Those people are set.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not them at all. It's one hundred percent Swifties

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<v Speaker 1>that move.

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<v Speaker 2>The power of the Swifties that.

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<v Speaker 1>Move the needle four hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 2>The power of Taylor.

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<v Speaker 1>And Kelsey is everywhere right now. He's you know, he

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of like Peyton Manning. He's kind of like Mahomes.

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<v Speaker 1>He's in all these commercials. And what's funny is he's

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<v Speaker 1>still not that recognizable.

0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:14.000
<v Speaker 2>Well he is now He's getting there.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he walked out. They they got caught on

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<v Speaker 1>video walking out together after the game. This isn't crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, that they shut down a restaurant in

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<v Speaker 1>Kansas City so they could have a private dinner with

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<v Speaker 1>teammates and with Taylor Swift. The only other thing that

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<v Speaker 1>we have to discuss the dinner for Taylor Swift, the

0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:40.400
<v Speaker 1>chicken nugget ketchup and seemingly Ranch.

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<v Speaker 2>That's gonna be the Halloween costume.

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<v Speaker 1>Seemingly Ranch was.

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<v Speaker 2>So so random. I mean, when Taylor goes somewhere, especially publicly,

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<v Speaker 2>because she doesn't do many like official, you know public

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<v Speaker 2>and this is official, this is on TV and everything.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, obviously she goes to awards shows when she's nominated,

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<v Speaker 2>but everything she does is analyzed. So every facial expression

0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:04.400
<v Speaker 2>she made in that suite, the fact that she was

0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:06.920
<v Speaker 2>cleaning up her own trash in the suite, she threw

0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:09.520
<v Speaker 2>her own stuff away, what she was eating, Every photo

0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:12.560
<v Speaker 2>and video that comes out, people were analyzing. Now I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to ask you. I saw a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>posting this video and saying he did his signature move

0:14:17.640 --> 0:14:18.720
<v Speaker 2>that he did the archer.

0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:22.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he'd like an arrow towards her, towards her up

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<v Speaker 1>to the suite.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't tell from the video if it really was

0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:29.080
<v Speaker 2>towards her. It was yeah, okay, cute, that's cute. That's cute.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's my question to you. I think he's all in

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<v Speaker 1>is this is this real? Are they really dating?

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<v Speaker 2>That is a question. I was texting with some people

0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:43.080
<v Speaker 2>about that, like, look, because people are saying, well, neither

0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:45.080
<v Speaker 2>of them need the PR, so it's got to be real.

0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:47.800
<v Speaker 2>I do think neither of them need the PR. But

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<v Speaker 2>I think both of them seem smart about staying in

0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:55.080
<v Speaker 2>the headlines. So I think that it's both. I think

0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:58.480
<v Speaker 2>there's an element of realness, like obviously he was a fan,

0:14:58.560 --> 0:15:02.000
<v Speaker 2>He's going to her concert. He you know, there's older

0:15:02.120 --> 0:15:04.760
<v Speaker 2>video of him like singing her songs at clubs and stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>and who wouldn't have a crush on Taylor Swift? And

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<v Speaker 2>I think he was actively pursuing her, and so I

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<v Speaker 2>think there's potential for it to be real. And also

0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:18.160
<v Speaker 2>both of them known't that it's a smart move to

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<v Speaker 2>lean in to what was kind of becoming a story.

0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:24.640
<v Speaker 2>He was talking about her publicly, he's very desired, she

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<v Speaker 2>was single right now, she's going to have fun with it.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think that it's real. That it's very new,

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<v Speaker 2>so it could or could not become something like if

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<v Speaker 2>this is all we ever get from it. I think

0:15:36.360 --> 0:15:38.320
<v Speaker 2>it was great for both of them and it's cute.

0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:41.800
<v Speaker 1>They're both thirty three years old, same yes, and so.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and the fans are loving this because the you know,

0:15:45.680 --> 0:15:47.720
<v Speaker 2>the kind of joke and the mentality is like, well,

0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:50.320
<v Speaker 2>finally Taylor Swift is with a guy who's good looking,

0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:54.600
<v Speaker 2>gainfully employed, in actively pursuing her like with Joe All

0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:56.800
<v Speaker 2>and it was kind of like, well, what's his career? Really,

0:15:56.840 --> 0:15:58.560
<v Speaker 2>he's not really on her level. And I think that

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<v Speaker 2>the rumors were that he had an issue with that,

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<v Speaker 2>that maybe there was like you know that that tour

0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:06.800
<v Speaker 2>at the fabric of their relationship. And I agree with

0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:08.640
<v Speaker 2>the fans. I like the Travis has his own thing

0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:09.400
<v Speaker 2>going on well.

0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:12.240
<v Speaker 1>And I like that. I think that Taylor Swift is

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<v Speaker 1>so powerful, she is so famous. She needs somebody who

0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:21.880
<v Speaker 1>is really separated from her world but incredibly successful what

0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:25.840
<v Speaker 1>he does. And the best part is he's also incredibly

0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:29.040
<v Speaker 1>successful at a part time job. I'm not saying the

0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:33.680
<v Speaker 1>NFL isn't difficult, but in January or February, after the

0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:35.720
<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl, I'm sure the Chiefs will win again. He's

0:16:35.760 --> 0:16:38.600
<v Speaker 1>done so he can spend a ton of time with her.

0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:40.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh and she can travel with her. He can go

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<v Speaker 1>see her. She can come to some of his games.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, this is his busy time of year, September

0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:49.760
<v Speaker 1>through February. He's busy. So this is a great match

0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:52.080
<v Speaker 1>if it's real. I hope it is. I'm all in

0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:54.480
<v Speaker 1>for it. But I think this is a perfect fit.

0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:58.120
<v Speaker 1>An athlete who is great at what he does. She

0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:02.320
<v Speaker 1>can't help him per se. She can't do anything for him,

0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:05.240
<v Speaker 1>and vice versa, you know what I mean, Like their

0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:09.399
<v Speaker 1>careers are so different. He can't help her career, she

0:17:09.440 --> 0:17:11.959
<v Speaker 1>can't really help his. She can help his clout, but

0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:13.600
<v Speaker 1>he's a football player.

0:17:13.960 --> 0:17:14.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know.

0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:16.160
<v Speaker 1>She can't help him catch touchdowns. She can't.

0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:18.600
<v Speaker 2>He's well with Joe Alwhen he was in entertainment, it

0:17:18.640 --> 0:17:21.520
<v Speaker 2>was a question of like right, you know, coattails And

0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:24.800
<v Speaker 2>there are some people were saying, I feel like more

0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:26.880
<v Speaker 2>of the sports fans is he going to get distracted?

0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:29.399
<v Speaker 2>And I think, what do you think? He seems to

0:17:29.440 --> 0:17:32.800
<v Speaker 2>me to be an established enough player to not like for.

0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:34.720
<v Speaker 1>That to not be an issue, or he's a big

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<v Speaker 1>enough of him.

0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:37.080
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's not a twenty three year old joining

0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:38.960
<v Speaker 2>the NFL. He's been in the NFL probably ten years.

0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:41.240
<v Speaker 1>He's a big enough of a personality that this is.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually it's kind of like Gronk, who's very famous, so

0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:45.119
<v Speaker 1>you might known.

0:17:45.560 --> 0:17:47.200
<v Speaker 2>I have interviewed him before so nicely.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost like the bigger the circus, the better for

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<v Speaker 1>Gronk and the better for Kelsey. Oh, like he thrives

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<v Speaker 1>on this.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Okay, I like that.

0:17:56.560 --> 0:17:59.119
<v Speaker 1>And you know the fact that all this was going

0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:02.359
<v Speaker 1>on and he's going to touchdown, and you know, nothing

0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:06.320
<v Speaker 1>is taking away from them winning a super Bowl. He's

0:18:06.440 --> 0:18:08.840
<v Speaker 1>probably going to be a Hall of Famer. They're probably

0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:11.040
<v Speaker 1>going to win another super Bowl. He's probably going to

0:18:11.040 --> 0:18:14.199
<v Speaker 1>be in All Pro again. Like, nothing is slowing this

0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:18.040
<v Speaker 1>guy down. Just like would this distract Taylor from selling

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<v Speaker 1>out so Far Arena and putting on the show of

0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:21.040
<v Speaker 1>her life tonight.

0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:23.959
<v Speaker 2>No, And I think they're both pass that in their careers.

0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:26.080
<v Speaker 2>And I have to applaud Taylor on I mean the

0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:29.080
<v Speaker 2>Joe Allwin breakup. They were together like six years. They

0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:31.280
<v Speaker 2>didn't break up that long ago. That news is so

0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:34.000
<v Speaker 2>forgotten at this point. Yeah, she's so brilliant at that.

0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:36.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, she dated that guy from the nineteen seventy

0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:40.359
<v Speaker 2>five Matt Healey for a brief moment and a lot

0:18:40.400 --> 0:18:42.359
<v Speaker 2>of the tweets were like, Wow, glad she moved on

0:18:42.400 --> 0:18:45.920
<v Speaker 2>from him to Travis, but like the Joe Allwin news

0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:49.359
<v Speaker 2>is so a thing of the past. And that's brilliant

0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:52.320
<v Speaker 2>of her to me, because you know, if she hadn't

0:18:52.400 --> 0:18:54.720
<v Speaker 2>started like she's changed the news cycle, it could have

0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:58.119
<v Speaker 2>been that at every concert people are analyzing everything she says.

0:18:58.200 --> 0:19:00.159
<v Speaker 2>Is she over the breakup? Did she shed it here

0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:02.840
<v Speaker 2>while singing that song because it's about Joe now Joe's over?

0:19:05.080 --> 0:19:06.720
<v Speaker 2>You know, as much as there is I wanted to

0:19:06.720 --> 0:19:09.080
<v Speaker 2>ask you something, as much as there is the support

0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:15.600
<v Speaker 2>for Travis being handsome, And I saw one tweet that said,

0:19:15.640 --> 0:19:17.880
<v Speaker 2>finally a guy. She can climb like a tree.

0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:19.320
<v Speaker 1>He's a big dude.

0:19:19.440 --> 0:19:22.399
<v Speaker 2>He's a big deer and successful. Of course, this is

0:19:22.480 --> 0:19:27.280
<v Speaker 2>how quickly the news cycle goes. Already there's some question

0:19:27.320 --> 0:19:30.520
<v Speaker 2>marks coming out about him. Apparently an ex girlfriend has

0:19:30.520 --> 0:19:32.439
<v Speaker 2>come out and said he's a cheater. But they had

0:19:32.440 --> 0:19:35.280
<v Speaker 2>a very brief relationship, and I don't judge people on

0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:38.240
<v Speaker 2>their past, you know, I don't know when that relationship

0:19:38.400 --> 0:19:41.000
<v Speaker 2>was whatever. And then there was this clip from the

0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:44.640
<v Speaker 2>show Watch What Happens Live that came out that resurfaced

0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:47.920
<v Speaker 2>where he gets asked about his dating life and one

0:19:47.920 --> 0:19:49.919
<v Speaker 2>of the questions he gets asked, is is it a

0:19:49.960 --> 0:19:53.399
<v Speaker 2>deal breaker if the girl doesn't sleep with you on

0:19:53.440 --> 0:19:56.600
<v Speaker 2>the third date, like by the third date? And he said,

0:19:56.600 --> 0:19:59.800
<v Speaker 2>it is a deal break. And I have to say that.

0:20:00.160 --> 0:20:02.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean me, I was like, oh, Travis, I don't

0:20:02.680 --> 0:20:06.680
<v Speaker 2>know about that. Is that a deal breaker for most guys? No,

0:20:06.800 --> 0:20:09.359
<v Speaker 2>if you don't have sex the third date, that feels

0:20:09.359 --> 0:20:10.119
<v Speaker 2>a little early to me?

0:20:10.320 --> 0:20:13.000
<v Speaker 1>That is early. We old school, well, and it's incredibly

0:20:13.040 --> 0:20:17.200
<v Speaker 1>early to put a d like a go no go date,

0:20:17.280 --> 0:20:17.840
<v Speaker 1>Like if you have.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's my thing, Say you get a cup of coffee,

0:20:20.000 --> 0:20:22.200
<v Speaker 2>you have one dinner, then by your second dinner you

0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:23.800
<v Speaker 2>already have to have sex. That feels quick to.

0:20:23.840 --> 0:20:25.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that feels quick? Yeah?

0:20:25.280 --> 0:20:27.960
<v Speaker 2>No, or we like old school prudes. I don't know.

0:20:28.119 --> 0:20:30.400
<v Speaker 1>Look, if you have sex before your third date, that's

0:20:30.480 --> 0:20:34.639
<v Speaker 1>up to you. But to put that limitation on a

0:20:34.680 --> 0:20:37.719
<v Speaker 1>relationship of a go no go, my guess is if

0:20:37.760 --> 0:20:40.200
<v Speaker 1>you go back. He's changing his tune.

0:20:40.480 --> 0:20:44.359
<v Speaker 2>Okay, because Dave one's in the books. Well, I mean

0:20:44.400 --> 0:20:48.000
<v Speaker 2>she's already met his mom. It could get serious fast.

0:20:59.480 --> 0:21:01.960
<v Speaker 1>I talked to Tony Romo about this years ago because

0:21:02.000 --> 0:21:06.520
<v Speaker 1>he dated Jessica Simpson and that for the quarterback for

0:21:06.520 --> 0:21:08.880
<v Speaker 1>the Dallas Cowboys and he was much younger at the time,

0:21:09.160 --> 0:21:13.879
<v Speaker 1>was a distraction. They made it all about her and

0:21:14.080 --> 0:21:17.280
<v Speaker 1>following them to Cabo, and he told me, he's like,

0:21:17.600 --> 0:21:20.000
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't ready for that. And so I think the

0:21:20.000 --> 0:21:22.800
<v Speaker 1>fact that Kelsey is thirty three, he's a veteran. They've

0:21:22.800 --> 0:21:26.359
<v Speaker 1>had already a large amount of success there in Kansas City.

0:21:26.760 --> 0:21:29.520
<v Speaker 1>His coach knows how to take it well. His quarterback

0:21:29.880 --> 0:21:32.959
<v Speaker 1>Mahomes is going to protect him. So everything is in

0:21:32.960 --> 0:21:36.320
<v Speaker 1>line for this to work. It was not because Tony

0:21:36.400 --> 0:21:39.280
<v Speaker 1>Romo had not had that success yet. He was the

0:21:39.359 --> 0:21:41.600
<v Speaker 1>quarterback that was supposed to take us to the Promised

0:21:41.680 --> 0:21:45.080
<v Speaker 1>Land and it wasn't getting done. They were blaming Jessica

0:21:45.119 --> 0:21:48.480
<v Speaker 1>Simpson and he's like, they just they were relentless on them.

0:21:48.720 --> 0:21:50.960
<v Speaker 2>This is set up for success. Yes, we have two

0:21:51.000 --> 0:21:54.359
<v Speaker 2>confident people in the prime of their careers. And I

0:21:54.440 --> 0:21:56.119
<v Speaker 2>loved that he wore the you know, he wore a

0:21:56.200 --> 0:21:59.320
<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty nine suit like to the game.

0:21:59.240 --> 0:22:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Out of respect for After the game, when they walked

0:22:01.480 --> 0:22:04.720
<v Speaker 1>out together, he was in a nineteen eighty nine suit obviously.

0:22:04.320 --> 0:22:06.720
<v Speaker 2>That No, it was before when he went in or

0:22:06.760 --> 0:22:07.080
<v Speaker 2>both men.

0:22:07.160 --> 0:22:08.480
<v Speaker 1>I think it was when they were walking out. That's

0:22:08.520 --> 0:22:10.800
<v Speaker 1>the video I saw. Anyway, Well, did you hear did

0:22:10.800 --> 0:22:13.320
<v Speaker 1>you see the uh everyone that thought they were sneaking

0:22:13.440 --> 0:22:17.320
<v Speaker 1>Taylor out of there in a popcorn? Yes, people are

0:22:17.400 --> 0:22:18.720
<v Speaker 1>losing their minds.

0:22:18.880 --> 0:22:23.440
<v Speaker 2>I love it. Look, I saw something that said someone tweeted,

0:22:23.640 --> 0:22:26.920
<v Speaker 2>this is the first guy Taylor Swift has dated who

0:22:27.000 --> 0:22:31.920
<v Speaker 2>realizes he's dating Taylor Swift. Oh interesting, And I thought

0:22:31.920 --> 0:22:34.359
<v Speaker 2>that was such a good take. Like he again, he's

0:22:34.440 --> 0:22:38.000
<v Speaker 2>fangirled out. He is looking up at the stands, thinking, wow,

0:22:38.040 --> 0:22:43.640
<v Speaker 2>she's right there. He is aware of what he's got here.

0:22:44.240 --> 0:22:47.560
<v Speaker 2>So I think that means whatever he might have done

0:22:47.560 --> 0:22:52.240
<v Speaker 2>in the past, he's realized now that this is an

0:22:52.240 --> 0:22:55.040
<v Speaker 2>incredible woman he's got like he you know, I mean,

0:22:55.080 --> 0:22:57.560
<v Speaker 2>she's the biggest star in the world. And he did

0:22:57.600 --> 0:23:00.320
<v Speaker 2>everything right. Run it out of restaurant, I got her

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<v Speaker 2>in his suite, drove her himself and his a little

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<v Speaker 2>convertible after the game. Being a gentleman, it was just

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<v Speaker 2>sort of nice to see a lovely first date.

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<v Speaker 1>Shoot your shots. If this is ever a lesson of

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<v Speaker 1>you miss one hundred percent of the shots you don't take.

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<v Speaker 1>This is it right here? Take your shot. This guy

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<v Speaker 1>took a swing at the biggest star in the world

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<v Speaker 1>in Taylor Swift and for whatever it is right now,

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<v Speaker 1>it's awesome. Where it goes from here, who knows, it's

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<v Speaker 1>up to them. I am all for it. I love

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<v Speaker 1>what it did to bring these worlds together. I really

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<v Speaker 1>love how the Swifties have embraced this for Travis Kelcey

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<v Speaker 1>and football. I love how the Chiefs fans and everybody

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL has embraced this for the Swifties. I

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<v Speaker 1>love that everybody's come together. I kind of expected one

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<v Speaker 1>day of love and then all of a sudden the

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<v Speaker 1>haters were going to take over. They have not. The

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<v Speaker 1>love has persisted. The love has prevailed, and I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think that all of the sports fans are

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<v Speaker 2>supporting it. I like the Swifties are.

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<v Speaker 1>The most part.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I know the Chiefs fans and everybody that I have

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<v Speaker 1>seen on all the NFL shows. You know, all the

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<v Speaker 1>pundits on all these talk shows that on ESPN and

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<v Speaker 1>Fox and all that Colin Cowherd and all these people.

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<v Speaker 1>I watch. I expected them to be kind of crappy

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<v Speaker 1>this week, just you know, and they're not. It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's cool to be the guy you know that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of bags on this and rips on Taylor Swift.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not okay good, they're supporting this good because again,

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<v Speaker 2>why wouldn't you big start in the world. An incredible talent,

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<v Speaker 2>and I support it too. I love it. I And

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, like I said, if it's only this

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<v Speaker 2>date and it goes nowhere, this was a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 2>If it turns into something great because as he's swifty,

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<v Speaker 2>a longtime swifty. I have thought this about Taylor for years.

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<v Speaker 2>She needed to date someone in her own league, but

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<v Speaker 2>in a different industry.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone in her own league in a different league.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah sports truly, though I kind of thought she might

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<v Speaker 2>go someone like in tech or someone like I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>like when Scarlett Johansson wound up with what's his name

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<v Speaker 2>from SNL. It's like that was such a different world. Yes, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I just thought she needed someone who was confident on

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<v Speaker 2>his own, confident on his own in his own industry,

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<v Speaker 2>and like already successful on his own.

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<v Speaker 1>But what I love is no ripping on the nerds

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<v Speaker 1>in the tech industry. What I love is there's not

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<v Speaker 1>a place, a red carpet, a concert that Travis Kelsey

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<v Speaker 1>will feel out of place. He's so big, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>so bigger than life that he could walk into a

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor Swift concert and be mobbed. And it's okay. He's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to be swallowed up by the light that

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<v Speaker 1>is Taylor Swift.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, And what's good about this is they're both entertainers,

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<v Speaker 2>they're both performers. They relate on that, but in very

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<v Speaker 2>different ways.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, well we love this love Okay, I mean I'm

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<v Speaker 2>already saying love. They might not have even had the

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<v Speaker 2>third day yet.

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<v Speaker 1>And to bring this full circle, Taylor Swift will never

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<v Speaker 1>change her name to Taylor Kelsey. No, she will not

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<v Speaker 1>a Swifties.

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<v Speaker 2>She will always be How about Travis Swift. That doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>sound bad at all. T Swift, T Swift, T Swift

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<v Speaker 2>thinking of the same.

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<v Speaker 1>Same monogram makes it very easy. So we are all

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<v Speaker 1>here for it. Obviously, we will stay on top of

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<v Speaker 1>this one. It'll be interesting to see the as the

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<v Speaker 1>weeks go on, if she pops up at another game,

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<v Speaker 1>or if they pop up and continue to date. But regardless.

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<v Speaker 1>Travis Kelsey, Taylor Swift broke the Internet, broke the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>broke the world, but did not break our hearts. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for tuning in today, love chatting with you. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much, and we will do it again next time

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