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Speaker 1: Hi.

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Speaker 2: This is Laura Vandercamp. I'm a mother of five, an author, journalist,

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Speaker 2: and speaker.

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Speaker 3: And this is Sarah Hartunger. I'm a mother of three,

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Speaker 3: a practicing physician and blogger. On the side, we are

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Speaker 3: two working parents who love our careers and our families.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to best of both worlds.

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Speaker 2: Here we talk about how real women manage work, family,

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Speaker 2: and time for fun, from figuring out childcare to mapping

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Speaker 2: out long term career goals. We want you to get

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Speaker 2: the most out of life.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to best of both worlds. This is Laura. This

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Speaker 1: episode we're going to be talking about twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 1: our year interview How It Went. This episode is airing

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Speaker 1: in mid December twenty twenty three, so the year is

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Speaker 1: not entirely over yet, and it may be possible that

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Speaker 1: some things will happen in the rest of these few

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Speaker 1: weeks of the year. We'll see, well, I'll see, but

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Speaker 1: for the most part, the year has happened and so

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Speaker 1: we can review how it went well. We set our

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Speaker 1: yearly goals for twenty twenty three last year, and if

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Speaker 1: we had a twenty twenty three goals episode, we had

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Speaker 1: a midyear check in Sarah, when do you usually set

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Speaker 1: your yearly goals? So when did you set your goals

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Speaker 1: for twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 3: I believe I set my goals for twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 3: probably sometime in November or so of twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 3: as we were preparing for this episode. I'm really grateful

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Speaker 3: to our listeners who continually give us feedback that they

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Speaker 3: enjoy these episodes, because I really like doing them. I

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Speaker 3: like having a deadline for myself or having to get

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Speaker 3: at least a preliminary version of my annual goals done.

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Speaker 3: And so that's how we did it in twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 3: at least that's what I remember.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I remember setting goals and you know, November

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Speaker 1: as I'm like, oh, yeah, we're going to have to

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Speaker 1: do this episode. So it forces us to be a

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Speaker 1: little bit more organized and systematic about doing it. But

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Speaker 1: of course, whatever goals you set for the year, there's

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Speaker 1: also things that happen that are related to the goals,

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Speaker 1: things that are just random highlights. So let's go I

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Speaker 1: had to talk about a few of our highlights from

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. So, Sara, what was really exciting for

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Speaker 3: Well, this was a really big year for me professionally

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Speaker 3: because it was the very first year I had where

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Speaker 3: the entire year was spent working part time in my

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Speaker 3: so I was free to spend the other forty percent

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Speaker 3: of my time kind of building my creative offerings, you know,

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Speaker 3: building best laid plans, creating courses, doing more in the

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Speaker 3: Patreon like, doing lots of other things. And it was

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Speaker 3: a lot of fun. I feel like I learned a lot,

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Speaker 3: But just settling into that and experiencing what life was

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Speaker 3: like in that hybrid position was was a really big

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you traveled some interesting places as well. I

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Speaker 1: know you guys took some pretty epic trips over the person.

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Speaker 3: so that was really fun to see that come to Fruition.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, or even just I mean with your Alaska trip,

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Speaker 1: I think that was a pretty big exciting goal. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a big, big professional milestone for me.

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Speaker 3: So that was cool. And then finally running, it was

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean certainly I was reading about your running

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Speaker 1: Like my highlight reel or like the twelve grid three

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Speaker 1: We had some really awesome travel this year. We partly

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Speaker 1: so that was pretty cool. I went to Acadia. I

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Speaker 1: a fashion icon. Apparently. I took four retreats. These are

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Speaker 1: I did Best Laid Plans Live, which was a ton

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Speaker 3: actually going back a little bit to what we said

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Speaker 3: did they happen? Were we successful? Did we decide to pivot? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Because that's okay too. All Right, Sarah, let's start with you,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I want you to start with yours, to

436
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,520
Speaker 3: talk about the idea of fails. Yeah, goals that we

437
00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:17,280
Speaker 3: either abandoned, just didn't do, or maybe that we still

438
00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,960
Speaker 3: want to do but just didn't happen in twenty twenty three.

439
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,080
Speaker 1: It didn't happen in twenty twenty three, well, okay. And

440
00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,600
Speaker 1: so the first one is actually when I did the

441
00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,800
Speaker 1: notes for this, it was as a fault in the

442
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:31,520
Speaker 1: sense that the whole reason I wanted to do strength

443
00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,680
Speaker 1: training is because I've been having various back and leg pain.

444
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,560
Speaker 1: Back pain is sort of more like whatever middle age woes,

445
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 1: but the leg pain was just bizarre, okay, Like you know,

446
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 1: this weird pain in my thighs when I'm standing or

447
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 1: walking around is in my right leg only, and so

448
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,840
Speaker 1: you know, this is like the problem of aging. You're

449
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 1: kind of trying to figure out what bizarre symptom you

450
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,000
Speaker 1: have and like what one weird trick will help it,

451
00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 1: and you know it's who knows, Like non specific middle

452
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,919
Speaker 1: aged pain is kind of hard to diagnose and treat,

453
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,639
Speaker 1: So this is all very frustrating. I've been doing a

454
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 1: year of strength training not really seeing any progress with it.

455
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:15,840
Speaker 1: But a couple weeks ago I decided I was going

456
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:21,160
Speaker 1: to do a series of back exercises every single day,

457
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 1: including some stretches, some back strengthening exercises, and I really

458
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 1: do think it's been helping. Like I'm about three four

459
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 1: weeks into it now of doing it every single day,

460
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 1: so no like, oh, is it today a day for

461
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:36,639
Speaker 1: it or not, and it's today is a day for it.

462
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:37,879
Speaker 1: Every day is going to be a day for it.

463
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,639
Speaker 1: Just do it. And that's sort of helping in a

464
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 1: general sense. But I also figured out this one weird

465
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 1: trick for my leg, which is that if I touch

466
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 1: my toes, I guess it's sort of like an inversion

467
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 1: kind of thing, like been never touch my toes. I

468
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,159
Speaker 1: think it's nerve pain. It takes the pressure off my

469
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 1: lower spine, and if I do hold it for like

470
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Speaker 1: thirty seveackens or so, I can often like short circuit

471
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,919
Speaker 1: it like and it doesn't. It stops, It stops, and

472
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 1: then it's good again for another bit of time, and

473
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 1: then you know it might happen again, and then I

474
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 1: can bend over and touch my toes again. But it's

475
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,679
Speaker 1: like you're not walking around during the day like touching

476
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,880
Speaker 1: your toes right Like, So it's I didn't randomly come

477
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 1: across this, but because I was doing these back exercises,

478
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 1: one of which is like doing these inversion type things

479
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 1: where you are bent over, I figured this out. Like,

480
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,640
Speaker 1: so I'm like, whoa, Okay, well that's interesting.

481
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 3: That's great. Well it was a serendipitous discovery. I wonder

482
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Speaker 3: if you did yoga because that just involved so many

483
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,199
Speaker 3: of those types of inversions that if you were like

484
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,199
Speaker 3: doing that more, maybe you would like open something up.

485
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 3: But I actually have no idea, So this is not

486
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 3: a professional recommendation.

487
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 1: Well sure, I'm sure. Yeah, Like if what if I

488
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 1: was doing like thirty minutes of yoga a day, do

489
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,360
Speaker 1: I think that probably could have helped everything in general? Probably?

490
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 1: It's just it wasn't something I was doing so and

491
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 1: it's not so much that it was like the yoga itself.

492
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,639
Speaker 1: It's like one specific aspect of it, and that was

493
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 1: just the trial and error and figuring it out. Okay,

494
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 1: So that was a semi success for there that I

495
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 1: started as a fail when I made the notes, but

496
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 1: it's not. I have not repurposed my thousand episodes of

497
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 1: Before Breakfast yet they're just sitting there, just like they've

498
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 1: been sitting there so much for that. I have not

499
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 1: finished a new book proposal yet. Tranquility by Tuesday came

500
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 1: out in October of twenty twenty two. We are still

501
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 1: figuring that next part out. So anyway, I did not

502
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,959
Speaker 1: match my income for twenty twenty two, so Sarah had

503
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 1: the financial goal of making up her forty percent. I

504
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,199
Speaker 1: am going to be significantly under where I was in

505
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, partly because it wasn't the best year

506
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 1: for speaking, which is interesting. It goes up and down

507
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 1: a lot. That's one thing I've gotten used to in

508
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 1: the course of running this sort of business. And I,

509
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,360
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, did not do a lot to market myself.

510
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: We can ask myself why not, but as it is,

511
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,199
Speaker 1: did not, And so then there you go. I am

512
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 1: not necessarily doing all that great couple time. We do

513
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 1: attempt to do some like Saturday afternoons when we have

514
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: childcare for Henry, we go for a walk or something.

515
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 1: We haven't done a whole lot of dates, but we

516
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 1: are going on our first overnight couple trip. Should have

517
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 1: happened by the time this airs, our first trip since Henry,

518
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 1: So there you go. But again, there's only so much

519
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,360
Speaker 1: mental energy, so we've not really been good about that.

520
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 1: I said I was gonna do my singing three times

521
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 1: a week. I don't know. Maybe I'm doing it. I

522
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 1: do it most weeks twice with choir, but I didn't

523
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 1: track it. It just wasn't something I decided to do.

524
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 1: We did not do a leaf peeping trip. On the

525
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 1: other hand, it's been pretty good leaves around here, so

526
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 1: I guess I didn't have to go anywhere to see it.

527
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 1: So there you go.

528
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's really beautiful leaves around where you live, like

529
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 3: all the colors and stuff. I mean, the peeping is

530
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 3: like a bonus, but like you're getting.

531
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:02,120
Speaker 1: Leaves, I'm getting leaves. There are leaves, all right.

532
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 3: It's twenty twenty three unmet goals coming at you. I

533
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 3: wrote I want to try going and said I'm sure

534
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,959
Speaker 3: I want to try going to in person yoga, and

535
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,719
Speaker 3: I wrote this is less for fitness and more for

536
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 3: just something I miss. Did not go well, does beat

537
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 3: yoga count? I did you beat yoga at.

538
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: The base is not what I meant though, but so no,

539
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: So we've done it once this year, both of us.

540
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 3: I meant like a class, like a real class. But okay,

541
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 3: this time I will make it through organized through sixty five. Nope,

542
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 3: not even I don't even know if I started, honestly,

543
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 3: So okay, I'm not even going to delve into that.

544
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 3: I just gave up. I tried. I did try, like

545
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 3: some different variation on that, like a fifteen minute declutter,

546
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 3: and I don't know. I'm like at a loss. I

547
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 3: still want to declutter at home, but I don't really

548
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 3: want to do the work.

549
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 1: You want a house that is decluttered, you just don't

550
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 1: want to do the decluttering.

551
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I feel like I'm like I'm operating against

552
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 3: such forces from everybody else who lives in my house

553
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,919
Speaker 3: that it just like feels kind of futile anyway, Like

554
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 3: even if I decluttered my stuff, like what would that mean?

555
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 3: My bathroom is now like Annabel's bathroom two. And there's

556
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 3: a lot of cosmetics in there that are not mine

557
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 3: and it's a lot and I love it. Actually, Sometimes

558
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 3: she shares with me and we do skincare together and

559
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 3: it's great, but I'm just saying like, this isn't really

560
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 3: my house to declutter right now, So maybe that just

561
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 3: tests to be like when I am a empty nest,

562
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 3: will defer that a decade or so.

563
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: All right, sound good?

564
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 3: Okay? So what else I wanted to work on homework routines?

565
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,439
Speaker 3: I don't know did I Maybe I feel like it

566
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 3: worked itself out, but I don't feel like I put

567
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 3: any real effort into it. I had a crazy reading

568
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 3: well not crazy. I had an interesting reading plan where

569
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 3: I wanted to read a tenth of a novel every

570
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 3: day and a fourteenth of a nonfiction book every day minimum,

571
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,120
Speaker 3: so that I would complete three novels and two nonfiction

572
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 3: books per month with a total of sixty, which to

573
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,120
Speaker 3: me is not a huge reach because I usually read

574
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 3: around fifty. And I think I started with this, but

575
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 3: then quickly realized like that wasn't going to work, because

576
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 3: you know, sometimes I did want to read more than

577
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 3: that tenth and sometimes I wanted to read none. And

578
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 3: the only thing that was really cool about starting this

579
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 3: plan was I did start like tracking pages and I

580
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 3: was writing in my monthly goals notebook like what I

581
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 3: had read on each day, and it helped me to

582
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,439
Speaker 3: see when I didn't like a book, because I'm like,

583
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 3: I have been stuck on this book for two weeks

584
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 3: and I've read like twenty pages, like it's time to

585
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 3: move on. And I think I did advandon a couple

586
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 3: of books because I realized I just wasn't getting anywhere.

587
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 3: So it was like a useful exercise to attempt. But

588
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 3: and I did read about fifty books as per usual,

589
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 3: so it's not like reading was a fail. But that

590
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 3: plan didn't actually come to fruition. I wanted to go

591
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 3: to three musical concerts, which like didn't seem like that

592
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 3: much of a reach, and I went to zero concerts.

593
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 3: I wanted to see Taylor Swift. I couldn't spend that money,

594
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 3: or I decided not to spend that money. I had

595
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 3: gotten tickets to Bell and Sebastian, you know and Old

596
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 3: like they're cool, but they can't show, so I didn't

597
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 3: get to go, and I think that's it. So I

598
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 3: failed on that. I wanted to pick one album to

599
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 3: play in full each week based on the all songs

600
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,959
Speaker 3: considered picks, like they do this thing called New Music Friday,

601
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 3: and I thought, oh, I'll pick one of their picks.

602
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 3: I'm like, listen to it. I did do it sometimes,

603
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 3: like I actually do, like put on an album in

604
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 3: the car. I love that. But I certainly didn't do

605
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 3: it every single week. And I had a goal to

606
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 3: have TV night once a week and I failed. I

607
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 3: didn't watch enough TV.

608
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: Guys.

609
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 3: It's it's a problem.

610
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: I set a goal like that. It's so funny, like, yeah,

611
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: my goal is to watch more TV, and then you

612
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: fail at that goal. I, you know, kind of I.

613
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 3: Read books instead, It's okay, yes. And then I wanted

614
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 3: to make sure each kid got a one on one trip. Nope.

615
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 3: I did do mommy days like summer days where they

616
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 3: were one on one, and that was good. It was

617
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 3: actually felt like kind of a lot this summer because

618
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 3: I think I did them like week to week, back

619
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 3: to back, but I did not take any one on

620
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 3: one trips actually. And then I wanted to see Miriam

621
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 3: and my sister, my niece and my sister and my

622
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 3: parents at least twice. And this is a partial. I

623
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 3: actually saw my parents it's three times, including once in DC,

624
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 3: but I only saw my sister and Miriam once. However,

625
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,239
Speaker 3: and I have been given the okay to share this.

626
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 3: They now all live in the same place. They all

627
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 3: live in Philadelphia, so this should in the future perhaps

628
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 3: be easier. I wanted to finish estate planning. I did start,

629
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 3: which is more than I've done.

630
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: Another one that's been on the list many times.

631
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 3: I know. But I did, like reopen our contract with

632
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 3: the person, and I have the paperwork and I even

633
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 3: have in my mind like the time that we'll talk

634
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 3: through some of it and that's it. And then I

635
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 3: wanted to do more consistent seasonal skincare. And you know,

636
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 3: this goes and fail, but lately with these little partner

637
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 3: skincare sessions I'm doing with my child, maybe I could

638
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 3: say this was partially complete because I use the Allure

639
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 3: beauty box. Yeah, and a lot of the products they

640
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 3: have are kind of seasonal, like they'll put heavier face

641
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 3: creams in the winter and then lighter mists in the summer.

642
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 3: So I don't know if that's a partial credit.

643
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, sounds good. It's been a pretty good year.

644
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it's been a good year,

645
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: do you.

646
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 3: I loved twenty twenty three. Honestly, it was great. It

647
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 3: was great. I could have done without the car thing

648
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 3: that was really like a bummer.

649
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: For any new listeners. Sarah unfortunately got hit by her

650
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 1: own car.

651
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Speaker 3: I didn't even get hit. Yeah, I got like knocked

652
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Speaker 3: backwards and thrown to the ground by my car because

653
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Speaker 3: I didn't put it in park properly. So it was

654
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Speaker 3: self inflicted and no one else was harmed. No car

655
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Speaker 3: was even harmed. Nothing was harmed except my leg. And

656
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Speaker 3: it just like, I don't know, it kind of like

657
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 3: soured the last couple months. But other than that, it

658
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 3: was an awesome year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Other than that, well, you know, all the things

660
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: that could happen. I know, in the world at large,

661
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: there's many vable things happening and going on, and so

662
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Speaker 1: we feel very blessed that we have for the most part,

663
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Speaker 1: been happy and healthy and moving forward on our goals

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three, and we certainly hope that our

665
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: listeners have experienced that same thing as well. We've been

666
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Speaker 1: very grateful for the growth of this podcast over the

667
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Speaker 1: course of twenty twenty three. We've been hearing from some

668
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: new listeners, you know, people being very engaged in the community,

669
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Speaker 1: and certainly one of the upsides of Bestaid Plans Live.

670
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Speaker 1: Although it was organized around Sarah's content and other podcast

671
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Speaker 1: bestlid plans. A lot of people were also Best of

672
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: Both Worlds listeners, so that was really cool to be

673
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: able to meet people in person. We also got to

674
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: meet some listeners in person back in July, we had

675
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Speaker 1: a small meetup in Philadelphia, so really really great to

676
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: be able to engage with people. And we love hearing

677
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: from folks, so feel free to write us with comments, feedback, questions,

678
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: anything we want to know. Speaking of which, Best of

679
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: Both Worlds has an awesome Patreon group that we've watched

680
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: grow over the course of the past year. We have

681
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: monthly online meetups via zoom. We talk about different topics,

682
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: so we just wanted to really quickly share what we'll

683
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 1: be talking about in twenty twenty four every month, so

684
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Speaker 1: in case you feel like joining us, that would be great.

685
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: If you just search on Patreon for Best of Both

686
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: Worlds pod will come up. It's kind of hard to

687
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: give you URLs over the air because we're like trying

688
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: to write them down, but it should come up, and

689
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: you can check out my blog for the link as well.

690
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Speaker 1: Why didn't I read through the first six and then

691
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Speaker 1: you do the second six?

692
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Speaker 3: Right, sure, But I think we should also mention the

693
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 3: true community aspect that it started to feel like, and

694
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Speaker 3: the fact that like we post well, Laura especially posts.

695
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 3: I would say I post like once a week. She

696
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 3: posts two to three times a week, and we often

697
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 3: post requests or questions coming from the community, so someone

698
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 3: will will write in like I'm having this specific dilemma.

699
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 3: It really does feel like just this collection of incredibly

700
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 3: smart women to bounce ideas off of. People have different perspective.

701
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 3: It's largely comprised of professional women, mostly with children, some without,

702
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 3: or some thinking about having kids, And when you have

703
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 3: a question like you get all these different and incredibly

704
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 3: valuable perspectives, you get support. So I actually feel like

705
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 3: this year it has gelled Like we started as like, oh,

706
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 3: we're going to teach. I don't think we even understood

707
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Speaker 3: how much it would start to have like a community aspect,

708
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 3: but I like in twenty twenty three it really did.

709
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Speaker 3: So I want to share that if anybody is like

710
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Speaker 3: looking for social media alternatives as you are thinking towards

711
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 3: next year, I know a lot of people are trying

712
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Speaker 3: to be more mindful with their usage and what their

713
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 3: consumption looks like. If you are more wanting to turn

714
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 3: towards more curated things, this might be a really fun

715
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 3: option for you, because unlike the rabbit hole of like

716
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 3: Insta or something, you know, it is finite. So even

717
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 3: though we're posting a couple times a week, once you're

718
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 3: done reading that, you would you'd be able to move

719
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Speaker 3: on with your life and then if you would, and.

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Speaker 1: The comments are both valuable and it's real people in

721
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: a real community, so the bias is toward being helpful

722
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: and positive, which is not always the bias and internet

723
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: comments in general. So yeah, we've really appreciated that. I mean, boy,

724
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: on our reading thread there is something like seventy comments now,

725
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: I mean, it's great and wonderful. So that's part of

726
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 1: the big aspect of it. And then you know, we

727
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 1: have monthly online meetups. In January we're going to be

728
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: talking about habits in general, our Habit Symposium. February we'll

729
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: be discussing our first book club selection of the year.

730
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,720
Speaker 1: We do four in the course of the year. March

731
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: we'll be talking personal style. In April we'll be talking

732
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: career Conundrum. So hopefully we can address and crowdsource a

733
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,479
Speaker 1: lot of career crungoons that people are having. May's book

734
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Speaker 1: Club number two. June division of labor always a hot topic.

735
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 3: Then we've decided that July we are going to take

736
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 3: off for the summer. The longer I do this creation stuff,

737
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 3: the more I understand that there is this inherent seasonality,

738
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 3: and we get so much participation for most of the year,

739
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 3: and then the summer everyone's traveling and everyone's busy or

740
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 3: just wants to relax. So instead of doing a traditional

741
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 3: hour long session together, we're going to release a video

742
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 3: answering AMA type questions that's just private for the Patreon,

743
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 3: so that'll be fun. In August we'll do our third

744
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 3: book club of the year. September will be a kind

745
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 3: of time symposium as a we'll talk about time blocking,

746
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 3: task management, email, all that fun stuff. In October will

747
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 3: do a meal planning resource spectacular. November will be our

748
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 3: fourth book club. So again, these are quarterly space three

749
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 3: months apart to give people time to read the books.

750
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Speaker 3: And then December is I do a yearly goals workshop.

751
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 3: It's a fun way to get a taste of similar

752
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 3: content that I do, you know, as part of some

753
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 3: of my best laid plans offering so if you just

754
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 3: wanted like a little taste of that, it is. I

755
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 3: don't think too. Is it too late to join for

756
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 3: this month or no?

757
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Speaker 1: Ah, Well if you are, I think this is airing

758
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: on December twelfth, and our gathering is December twelfth, right,

759
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 1: so if you happen to listen to this at six

760
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,879
Speaker 1: am and you want to join for it'll probably be noon.

761
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: I have to look at my calendar. Bit yeah, then

762
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: and you get access, you have to get Yeah, you

763
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: get all whatever. So yeah, you can go there, you

764
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 1: go there. But it's a great way. Like membership is

765
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 1: nine dollars a month. You can always just join and

766
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 1: quit if you hate it, right and you get which

767
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: you won't, You won't hate it because you're gonna love it.

768
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: I mean, getting access to Sarah's goal setting workshop is

769
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: really quite a bargain for that. So yeah, please join us.

770
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Speaker 1: We're having a grand old time, all right. Moving to

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Speaker 1: the question, Sarah, are you reading this one?

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Speaker 3: I will summarize it. Yes, all right. This listener writes,

773
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 3: I'm a mom of a two year old and seven

774
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 3: week old, and I wanted to get you and Laura's

775
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 3: thoughts on goal setting during the first year like baby's

776
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 3: first year. She wants to be realistic, but also makes

777
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Speaker 3: strides in personal and professional goals. She works in academic medicine,

778
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,439
Speaker 3: fairly new in her role and does some admin work

779
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 3: in addition to her clinical work. So thoughts and advice

780
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 3: on how to make goals for that kind of special

781
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:42,720
Speaker 3: period of time.

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Speaker 1: Well, since I'm coming at this from the perspective of

783
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Speaker 1: having had five kids, I mean it's special. Of course

784
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,479
Speaker 1: it's special. But you know, you can't just like really

785
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: take five years out of your life and say I'm

786
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Speaker 1: not going to do anything during that time. I mean,

787
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: life continues and there's so many wonderful things that happen.

788
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Speaker 1: So I'd say there's nothing wrong with setting ambitious goals

789
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Speaker 1: even though you have a newborn. You know, I've written books, books, deadlines,

790
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: launched books, ran a marathon, whatever. You know, it's just

791
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: like you want to keep living your life on some level,

792
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: and so life doesn't stop. It doesn't need to. Having

793
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 1: kids is not some crazy thing that everything else stops for.

794
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 1: I mean, it's part of life. I wish we had

795
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: more of a perspective that it's like a healthy and

796
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: wonderful part of our lives and it's not something so

797
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 1: separate and different that everything else has to stop for.

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00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm expressing myself adequately here, but

799
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Speaker 1: I actually believe it's a very feminist thing that we

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Speaker 1: can have babies and do all our other things too,

801
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: right like that, it's not these are not either or

802
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,720
Speaker 1: things at all. So you know, i'd say, go ahead,

803
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 1: set yourself your big goals, whatever you were thinking of doing, like,

804
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: especially if they're big professional goals. Make sure that your

805
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,240
Speaker 1: childcare is set up such as that it sports your life,

806
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: not only that it supports you being at work, but

807
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: also having time for rejuvenation outside of work and getting

808
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,479
Speaker 1: enough sleep. Make sure you have plans for when things

809
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 1: go wrong with whatever your initial layer of childcare is.

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Speaker 1: We've always talked about having multiple layers, and I don't

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Speaker 1: know this woman's situation. Maybe her partner stays home with

812
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 1: the kids anyway, so I don't you know, I don't know,

813
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: but whatever it is that is your situation, make sure

814
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: that you have adequate coverage for your personal life so

815
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: that you can set those big goals and really lean

816
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 1: into them and not feel like you are fighting with

817
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: one hand tied behind your back because it's really great

818
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 1: when we can enjoy our children and enjoy our work

819
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Speaker 1: as opposed to feeling like they're in conflict. And I

820
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: think oftentimes when we feel like they are in conflict,

821
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Speaker 1: it's because maybe we haven't made enough of setups to

822
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Speaker 1: enable us to succeed on all of it. So make

823
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Speaker 1: sure you have space for that. Though obviously, you know,

824
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,280
Speaker 1: you can give yourself grace too, like if something goes wrong,

825
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: I mean we can't control that, if things go wrong

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Speaker 1: in a health perspective, or a child has special needs

827
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Speaker 1: that are requiring a little bit more intensity than you

828
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Speaker 1: thought originally, you know, give yourself grace for that. That's

829
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Speaker 1: totally fine, but you can at least try to set

830
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Speaker 1: those goals. Don't write off this time just because you

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Speaker 1: have a baby.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, best of both worlds was born in

833
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Speaker 3: twenty seventeen and I was pregnant and then had Genevieve

834
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Speaker 3: in the first year this podcast. And the reason that

835
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Speaker 3: that worked is because it was something I was super

836
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Speaker 3: excited about doing. So I guess I would say I

837
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Speaker 3: do think in general, I've been less productive in my

838
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 3: first trimester of each pregnancy, not really the second third,

839
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Speaker 3: second third. I was fine, probably did. I was like

840
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Speaker 3: hyper so first trimester and then the first year of

841
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Speaker 3: my baby's life. I had to be choosier about my

842
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Speaker 3: goals because I was chained to a pump of my

843
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 3: own choice and I was really tired, so I still

844
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Speaker 3: picked goals. I absolutely had goals again, best of both worlds.

845
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Speaker 3: Here you go. But I do think like you could also,

846
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 3: as you said, still do big things, but maybe just

847
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 3: be really really selective about what's important to you during

848
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Speaker 3: those time and then lean into the ones that really

849
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,399
Speaker 3: like give back to you in terms of like, oh, yeah,

850
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 3: I spent my time doing that, and like it felt

851
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 3: good and it felt meaningful, and I'm not doing it

852
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 3: to like prove a point or just to make somebody

853
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 3: else happy, but like, I've chosen this for myself because honestly,

854
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 3: during those times, sometimes you really want something that like

855
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 3: reminds you that you're still you, and so doing something

856
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 3: like starting a podcast or continuing a new podcast like

857
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 3: that would fit the bill. But maybe, like if someone

858
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Speaker 3: had mentioned some research paper that I wasn't that excited

859
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,280
Speaker 3: about but I felt might be good for my career,

860
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 3: like that might have been something to like push to

861
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Speaker 3: later or never.

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00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, so gopher goals you're excited about, maybe be a

863
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,280
Speaker 1: little bit choosy about anything you are not terribly excited about.

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Speaker 1: Excellent advice in general. All right, love of the week, Sarah.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say I'm sure I said this every time

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Speaker 1: we review our goal, but listening to old podcast episodes,

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Speaker 1: I you know, it's actually pretty fun to see what

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Speaker 1: were we thinking at the end of twenty twenty two

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Speaker 1: and in our midyear check in what was life like?

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Speaker 1: Podcasts do have an immediacy to them, which is then

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Speaker 1: interesting to see how life develops afterwards, like what were

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Speaker 1: we thinking about then? And are you still thinking about

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Speaker 1: that now or not? And you know, I'd like to

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Speaker 1: hear how we how we talk, and how we engage

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Speaker 1: with each other, and it's you know, it's a it's

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Speaker 1: a fun podcast to listen to. So there we go.

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Speaker 1: I like listening to old episodes. I love that well.

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Speaker 3: I love these episodes in general, and I love goal

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Speaker 3: setting episodes from any other podcast. So if you hear

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Speaker 3: some good ones, I think that'll be my love of

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Speaker 3: the week. I love hearing people review their old goals

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Speaker 3: and set new ones so much fun.

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Speaker 1: Yes, all right, Well, This has been best of both worlds.

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Speaker 1: We've been doing our twenty twenty three year in review

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Speaker 1: episode here, trying to look more retrospectively because there is

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Speaker 1: a Goals twenty twenty four episode coming out very very soon.

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Speaker 1: But in the meantime, well, how do I even end

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Speaker 1: this episode? Are I saying? I've listened to all these

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Speaker 1: old beast of both worlds? And yeah, here making work

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Speaker 1: and life fit together exactly? So forth I am losing

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Speaker 1: my mind, all right.

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Speaker 3: And enjoy the end of your twenty twenty three There's

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Speaker 3: still a few.

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Speaker 1: Weeks left, two weeks left. Let's get to the end

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Speaker 1: of the year, all right, See you next time.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for listening. You can find me Sarah at the

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Speaker 3: shoebox dot com or at the Underscore Shoebox on Instagram,

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Speaker 3: and you.

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Speaker 2: Can find me Laura at Laura vandercam dot com.

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Speaker 1: This has been the best of both worlds podcasts.

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Speaker 2: Please join us next time for more on making work

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Speaker 2: and life work together.