WEBVTT - Eating While Broke: JON KINNARD - Garnachas 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.360 Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke. 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:06.720 I'm your host, Coleen Witz, and today we have a 0:00:06.880 --> 0:00:12.840 very special guest, entrepreneur founder of Coffee del Mundo. 0:00:13.080 --> 0:00:15.480 Did I say it right? Coffee de del Mundo. 0:00:16.079 --> 0:00:18.919 John Kinnard's in the building and this is all the 0:00:18.960 --> 0:00:21.400 way in South LA. So we have a black owned 0:00:21.760 --> 0:00:48.680 coffee business, so this is very unique. I don't actually 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:52.800 drink coffee, but today I'm gonna drink coffee. I'm gonna 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:55.880 test the colebrew before i even pass him over to 0:00:56.000 --> 0:00:58.520 the dish he's about to cook us. 0:00:58.600 --> 0:01:02.720 Let's just do a test. This is the Coco Blanco. 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:05.400 CaCl blanco, my favorite one blanco. 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:08.880 So fun fact, I actually don't drink coffee, and if 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:11.040 I do, I usually mix it with hot chocolate and 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:14.480 then usually I get the jitters and I start to 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:19.080 think I'm gonna have a panic attack. It's weird. I 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:21.240 don't know why I react to coffee like that, so 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:23.720 let's test it. And I'm not a coffee fan, so 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:28.520 if I make a certain face, it's because I'm genuinely 0:01:28.560 --> 0:01:30.840 not a coffee fan. So it doesn't mean you should 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:33.759 be taking my advice on coffee. You should not take 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:37.600 my advice on coffee at all. This hot chocolate, yes, 0:01:37.640 --> 0:01:39.440 I've even mixed. I mixed vanilla. 0:01:39.800 --> 0:01:42.240 Well, this is a white chocolate coffee that's. 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:44.520 All enjoy Yes, and I'm only gonna drink it a 0:01:44.520 --> 0:01:45.679 little bit because we don't even. 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:46.759 Be bouncing off the walls. 0:01:47.400 --> 0:01:49.559 I can mess with this, Okay. 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:51.320 It has a little bit of a coffee taste. It 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:54.000 definitely has a coffee taste, which is good for coffee drinkers. 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:56.680 Right, absolutely, I ain't on front. 0:01:57.360 --> 0:01:59.640 I could probably kill this whole thing. I could probably 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:01.360 drink this thing. But will I get the jitters? 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:03.720 You will? This is like two servings in one and 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:06.040 for you that may be like three servings. 0:02:06.520 --> 0:02:10.560 So that means what is coffee made of? Caffeine? Right? 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:13.680 Caffeine content? Yeah, cold brew is three times stronger than espresso, 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:17.240 so a third of that is like one cup of coffee. 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:19.880 Okay, you need to have. This is delicious. 0:02:20.040 --> 0:02:22.520 I ain't gonna run. This is actually delicious. I would 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:26.160 drink this whole thing and probably end up in the hospital. 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:30.160 Right, yeah, sensitive, babe, I'm not gonna lie. This is 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:31.040 so easy to drink. 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:35.440 It's made with oat milk, white chocolate and coconut condensed 0:02:35.440 --> 0:02:37.079 milk with our Nicarockuan cold brew. 0:02:38.160 --> 0:02:41.080 This is actually this is really I'm a low key 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:42.360 surprised how delicious this is. 0:02:42.400 --> 0:02:44.200 And it's plant based hundred percent, so it's good for 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:45.200 you now and later. 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:50.160 Yeah, this is so you should probably take this from 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:53.000 me because how much can I drink without getting the jitters? 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:56.680 Uh, you know, probably to like right there, okay, yeah, probably, Like. 0:02:56.800 --> 0:02:58.919 Guys, I'm not gonna lie, I'm probably gonna drink this. 0:02:59.000 --> 0:03:01.520 And then the other flavor is it's. 0:03:01.320 --> 0:03:05.840 Our Cafe o the Oia, a traditional flavor in the 0:03:05.919 --> 0:03:11.280 Latino community, made with brown sugar, cinnamon, and dar Mexican colbrew. 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:14.000 And you make this from scratch right yeah? 0:03:14.200 --> 0:03:14.960 All at the shop? 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:17.560 Wow? Okay? And where's your shop located. 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:20.560 On seventy four fourteen South Vermont Avenue. 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:21.120 Okay. 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:23.560 And when I was on the call with you, I 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:26.080 don't know if you notice, and it's very discriminatory, but 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:26.760 I had. 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:27.800 To ask how old are you? 0:03:28.160 --> 0:03:29.359 I'm thirty three, thirty three? 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:31.040 I was like, you're thirty three? What did I say? 0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:31.200 Oh? 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:33.960 I got to have you on the show, so young 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:40.840 black Latino man, cute ladies. I had to say. I 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:42.080 had to say it to help you all out. 0:03:43.480 --> 0:03:47.560 And you own your own coffee business and it's award winning. 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:51.320 It's award winning, the only award winning shop in the city. 0:03:51.480 --> 0:03:54.440 Yes, and what is your broke dish? 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:57.880 Oh, that's a good one. So my broke dish is 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:03.800 a spin on a traditional plate called the granaches and 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:07.840 I've been eating that since I was little because most 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:10.160 families make it because it's just so easy, it's so cheap, 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:13.600 it's so affordable and versatile. So that's my dish of 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:13.880 the day. 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:18.440 Yeah. So this dish, I want to say costs. I 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:21.360 think it was like maybe under ten dollars, but I 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:24.200 mean the corn tortillas, there's so many, so I would 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:25.360 guess you can get at least. 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:26.480 Ah, yeah, a lot out of it. 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:30.400 So this is definitely a cheap dish, really affordables. 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:32.360 Why don't you walk us through the ingredients? 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:36.400 Yeah? Sure. So it's made with a corn tortilla and 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:38.279 that's the benefit, like you said, is that comes in 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:41.160 a pack, so you can make this dish the whole week. 0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:43.520 And what you do is you fry it in the 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:46.400 oil for a little bit to let it get crispy, 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:49.840 like a tostada, and then we have some traditional black 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:53.200 beans that will be spreading on it, kind of like 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:56.000 a Mexican pizza, and then your choice of topping. So 0:04:56.040 --> 0:04:59.400 I like to add avocado. I'm dairy free, so we 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:02.920 got some vegan cheese along with some dice tomato cilantro. 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:05.760 And then at the very end we'll ad our lime 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:10.000 and our traditional Marie Sharp Belizion avenarow pepper sauce. 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:12.800 And then you made sure to make a note that 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:16.320 the beans had to be what was it refried or 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:19.720 mash mashed, And so just in case y'all go out 0:05:19.760 --> 0:05:21.720 there and buy a can of beans, you may buy 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:24.640 the wrong ones. That's probably what I would do, so 0:05:24.720 --> 0:05:27.600 just make sure you look for refried or mash. 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:29.520 All right, go ahead, feed me all right? 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:31.400 All right, So what we're gonna do is we're gonna 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:34.159 start off making sure our oil is hot. We turned 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:37.200 it down a little bit, and then we'll get our 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:40.000 beans warmed. So I like to put a little bit 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:42.719 of coconut oil. But you know we're not in Belize today, 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:46.080 so we're gonna have to make de and warm up 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:46.839 our beans here. 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:49.400 So you put the coconut oil before. 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:51.359 You before it. Yeah, and it gives it a little 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:55.800 more flavor because this dish comes from Belize and that's 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:58.800 what my mom is and so the coconut oil is 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:01.760 a really signature taste in a Belizian dish. 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:05.080 I like coconut flavoring. And like when I make a 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:09.560 Stoopies and rice, oh yeah, Like do you use coconut 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:10.279 milk in your rice? 0:06:10.400 --> 0:06:12.839 I use coconut as many times. Look, I put it 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:15.599 in the coffee. I try to put as much coconut everywhere. 0:06:15.800 --> 0:06:18.080 There's coconut milk in it, coconut condensed milk. 0:06:18.560 --> 0:06:20.720 I thought there was oat milk and oat milk. 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:23.679 So the coconut condensed milk gives it that creamy texture 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:26.839 that you experience like it, and then the oat milk 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:31.000 just gives it that you know, additional lowers that pH 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:32.520 and gives it that creamy texture too. 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:34.560 I'm not gonna lie, like I could see me easily 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:37.080 drinking this whole thing, but I'm just scared about how 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:38.640 like jittery I would get. 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:41.000 Oh yeah, I mean we convert people all the time, 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:44.080 non coffee drinkers into coffee because most people are not 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:48.359 used to good coffee. They're used to burnt coffee. Good. Yeah, 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:50.760 And this roast is super fresh at our site in 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:53.839 South Central So literally you're not going to get a 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:55.760 fresher cup of coldbrew coffee. 0:06:56.000 --> 0:06:57.560 I mean, this thing is delicious. 0:06:58.000 --> 0:07:00.880 I'm not gonna lie, but this is for someone like 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:02.599 me because deliciousness. 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:05.920 I suck it down fast, then it creeps up later. 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:08.480 And so for those of you who are scared of frying, 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:11.040 or maybe have never fried something, this may be your 0:07:11.040 --> 0:07:13.800 first time checking out this broke dish. A good way 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:15.600 to test your oil is just to put a little 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:19.400 bit of the tortilla in there, and if it bubbles 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:21.960 up and floats immediately, then the oil is hot enough. 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:24.280 But if not, then you want to wait, because that's 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:27.080 really the key to a good granachis and get that 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:30.600 good crispiness and it's not too oily and too unhealthy 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:32.440 for you. Because, like I said, I would make this 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:36.320 with breakfast, lunch, dinner. I would just fry up a 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:38.280 whole bunch of tortillas at the beginning of the week 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:39.360 and then just pop it out. 0:07:39.400 --> 0:07:41.080 How do you keep them fresh there? 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:43.760 It's like a tortilla chip, just in a zip lock 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:44.679 bag on the counter. 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:46.640 Oh but sometimes they sell it like that. 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:49.640 Yeah, but it ain't nothing like the thick, the fresh. 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:53.320 Oh and it's also more expensive, just like the beans. 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:55.200 I wouldn't even do the can like I said, I 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:57.080 would do a pot a week, a big old pot 0:07:57.080 --> 0:07:57.760 of black beans. 0:07:57.840 --> 0:07:58.600 You make it yourself. 0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:01.960 Yeah, that's how you say money. The cam beans are expected. 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:04.240 Wait a minute, So okay, I don't really deal with 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:05.720 a lot of beans, So tell me how do you 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:06.040 make it? 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:09.360 Oh? Okay, So like I said, oh, I haven't said it. 0:08:09.440 --> 0:08:11.520 I come from a lineage of on my mom's side, 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:15.360 from Belieze, of restaurant owners and chefs. So with the 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:17.880 black beans, first you got to soak the beans. 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:19.720 How long do you have to soak them for? 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:21.840 I like to do it overnight and then in the 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:24.440 next morning I start my process to cook the beans. 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:26.320 So then you turn it on, let it cook a 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:29.480 little bit. Then once the beans have cooked, then you 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:32.560 chop up some dice onion. You put up a whole 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:36.360 aven arrow in it along with the secret ingredient, which 0:08:36.400 --> 0:08:38.800 is really hard to find around here. The only place 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:41.560 I find it is at the Asian markets, which is 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:45.720 called kulantro culantro. We grow it in Belize and in 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:48.680 all the Central American countries. And see the tortilla starting 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:51.560 to flow, so it's almost ready. But it's like a 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:55.679 stronger tasting cilantro. But you put that in there with 0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:59.560 a little bit of sassongoya, a little bit of all 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:00.520 purpose seasoning. 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:02.960 You sound like you can really cook. Oh I don't, 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:04.680 I don't know. I don't know if i'm mining, But 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:06.720 you sound like you really a chef in the kitchen. 0:09:06.960 --> 0:09:10.040 And then you let that simmer once it's done. Oh 0:09:10.080 --> 0:09:11.960 my gosh, really amazing. 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:14.280 But you didn't add any coconut milk to your beans. 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:15.600 Coconut oil? 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:18.600 Well, oh, it's coconut oil. The beans in the pot. 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:19.720 You use coconut oil. 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:21.640 Right, put a little bit of coconut oil and that 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:24.320 just sits on the count I use coconut oil for everything, eggs. 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:26.560 So but when you do your tortillas, are you using 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:27.120 coconut oil? 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:30.200 No? No, no, you can't fry in coconut oil because 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:32.839 the temperature to burn is too high. 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:34.439 Oh my god, you sound like a chef. 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:38.120 You're like, legit, I love it almost in it. Go 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:40.560 to college and went to culinary art school, Like that's 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:42.960 that's why my business is around cooking coffee all day 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:45.080 because I had to do something with cooking. Yeah. 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:48.079 Yeah, I always say that if I if I went 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:50.600 to school again, I would love to go to culinary school. 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:53.880 Me too, I would love to me too. All right, 0:09:54.000 --> 0:09:56.200 So we think our first tortilla is ready, I'm gonna 0:09:56.240 --> 0:09:56.800 do this one. 0:09:57.400 --> 0:09:58.800 We'll just put it and then how many do you 0:09:58.880 --> 0:09:59.880 usually eat to get full? 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:04.440 Like three, depending on how much I stack it up. 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:05.520 So see how that started. 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:09.800 Then how do we know when the tortilla's done? 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:15.440 It's brown, golden brown, and it's do you flip it? Yep, 0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:16.520 we'll flip it eventually. 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:20.560 Okay, it's bubbling up. Okay, Okay, got a little cook 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:24.080 in action. So take me back to what was going 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:27.600 on at the time when you were making this while 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:29.880 you were broke or struggling, or when your family was 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:30.720 broke or struggling. 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:35.800 You know, when I first came out here, the only 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:38.760 family because I graduated from grad school and packed up 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:41.560 my car with whatever could fit and I just drove 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:44.960 out here. And the only person that had space in 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:49.240 our family out here was my aunt that lived in Paris, California. 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:51.680 Okay, first, wait, where did you graduate. 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:53.520 From Wake Forest in North Carolina. 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:56.199 Okay, so you came from North Carolina, you move out 0:10:56.240 --> 0:10:57.400 here to live with the auntie. 0:10:57.520 --> 0:11:00.599 Yep. And my job was in La So I was 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:02.160 driving eighty three miles. 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:05.720 Oh you got a job before you got a job. Yeah, 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:06.520 And what were you doing. 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:10.040 I was doing this management program for this marketing company 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:14.160 called Vantage. And so my aunt she would make a 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:16.920 big old pot of black beans because she had her kids, 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:20.040 you know, I was there, her sons, her daughters, and 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:23.400 then you know, she just enjoyed cooking, so there would 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:26.000 always be no matter when you got there, there was 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:29.440 always a good, big old pot of black beans. And 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:32.320 so with garnachas it really is, you know, it doesn't 0:11:32.360 --> 0:11:36.280 take much. It's just tortilla black beans and whatever toppings. 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:38.280 So even if you have picky eaters, you can, you know, 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:40.920 make it up yourself however you like it. But that's 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:43.040 when I really started just making them all the time 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:45.520 after living there, because it was just so easy. So 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:48.920 I just made my pot of black beans. If it's 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:52.040 breakfast time, I'll make some scrambled eggs, put that on, 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:55.000 add that on there. If it's dinner time, I'll bowl 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:58.880 some chicken mince it up, add that on there, same toppings, 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:00.840 but you know, change up the pro team depending on 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:03.320 the time of day. And because I was hustling, working 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:05.520 sixteen hours kind of you know. 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:08.880 Make it and this is for that company, right yeah, 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:09.760 for that company. Okay. 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:13.320 And then so shout outs to your auntie for really 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:17.800 pouring the bean meals into you, right oh yeah, oh yeah, okay, 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:21.800 so you're working, tell me the next step of what's 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:23.120 going on in your life. 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:25.360 So then I ended up only doing that company for 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:28.560 a year and started doing an insurance for this union 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:32.840 company and that was another management program, and so did 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:33.720 that for four years. 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:36.360 Why do you keep saying management program like it's school. 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:39.600 Because I'm just started at school because I felt like 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:44.760 I needed I had just education. And so what I 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:47.200 looked for initially for my first jobs were, you know, 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:51.560 programs that had a pathway to promotion, and so that's 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:55.120 what this company had. And so within those four years 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:59.240 I ended up becoming the regional manager and seeing how 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:01.040 much money I was making for the company, I was like, 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:03.800 if I could make them this much money, imagine what 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:05.400 I could go out there and do for myself. 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:09.560 I think it's interesting though, I've never actually heard someone 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:11.920 say before the way you look at a job as 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:15.199 like a learning experience, or you're not just looking at 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:17.240 it as a check, You're looking at it for much 0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:17.880 more than that. 0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:21.080 That's also why I did the insurance business specifically for 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:24.080 that union company, because I mean, ultimately, the reason I 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:26.760 moved out here is to get into government. But I'm 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:28.600 not from here. I don't know anything. I don't know 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:30.520 how the people think. I don't know what people need. 0:13:30.960 --> 0:13:34.080 And so the insurance game was I was able to 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:39.240 literally go into hundreds of homes of teachers, firefighters, police, 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:43.880 average citizens, still workers and learn what their true needs are, 0:13:43.920 --> 0:13:46.120 and learn how they think, learn how much money they're making, 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:48.600 learn what they actually have in savings, putting things aside, 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:52.960 so really getting that understanding of what the landscape is. 0:13:53.040 --> 0:13:56.679 So ultimately, one day I could really feel confident about 0:13:56.720 --> 0:13:58.760 representing them. Okay, because that's what. 0:13:58.920 --> 0:14:01.439 Your long term goal was government, And when you say government, 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:02.800 what do you mean government? 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:08.319 Ultimately I want to change education across the US federally, 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:12.200 so potentially holding a seat and Senate to sit on 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:15.360 that committee. Wow. But that's like why I moved here 0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:20.000 and wanted to start my own business, because I don't 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:23.200 believe that. If you want to be in charge of 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:29.480 this city's budget, but yet you independently haven't ever managed 0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:31.640 a budget like that, how can we trust you? There's 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:34.000 no proven history like this is a lot of money 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:36.480 that you get to decide in an instance. So I 0:14:36.560 --> 0:14:39.600 want to when I get into office, I want people 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:43.880 to know that I've built my own wealth, I've managed money, 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:46.080 and I can also do that if you trust me 0:14:46.120 --> 0:14:46.760 with this fund. 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:49.920 Wow, and those are big goals? Where did you get 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:50.800 that goal from? 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:55.360 Seeing all the injustices growing up? I grew up in Nashville, Tennessee, 0:14:55.640 --> 0:14:59.280 and if you know anything about Nashville, it's mostly white black. 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:03.400 There's not many Latinos, definitely no Bellegians. And so just 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:07.560 going through the education system, seeing the unfairness, experiencing it, 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:11.280 witnessing it, and then going to college for my bachelor's 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:14.240 at the University of Tennessee where down the street that's 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:16.520 where the KKK was founded, And they would still have 0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:18.680 rallies downtown in Knoxville while I was there. 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:20.080 Wow, And what year is that? 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:22.760 This was two thousand and ten and they were. 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:24.800 Still they're still having rallies still rallies. 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:26.880 When Obama won in two thousand and eight, they put 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:30.000 cotton balls around the Black Cultural Center, not them specifically, 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:33.280 but students on our campus. So it was just blatant 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:37.920 racism just and when I was there, the most thing 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:40.360 that struck me the most was the fact that we 0:15:40.360 --> 0:15:45.080 were only celebrating fifty years of allowing black people to attend. Wow. 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:47.920 I said, so you're telling me you've only allowed two 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:50.760 generations of black folks to get educated here. But yeah, 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:52.920 you're charging us all of this money and debt to 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:57.040 just study freak. And so that really really upset me. 0:15:57.080 --> 0:15:58.960 And so I was going to dedicate go to law 0:15:58.960 --> 0:16:01.880 school and that was going to be my pathway. But 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:04.960 then you know, right at the last minute, God tapped 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:06.560 me on the shoulder and said, hey, I know you've 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:08.160 been practicing for the l side and think you're going 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:09.520 to be an attorney, but you need to go to 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:14.720 business school. I hadn't taken math since high school because 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:16.320 I wasn't gonna do nothing with math. I was going 0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:18.400 to be an attorney. That was my path to get 0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:21.720 in the government, but ended up, by the grace of God, 0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:25.440 getting into Wake Forest their business management program. Some of 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:28.200 my classmates were from Princeton, Mit I felt like I 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:30.960 had no idea what I was doing. Never study business 0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:34.280 in my life, but I made it through thanks to 0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:39.120 some amazing teachers and office hours and peers, and made 0:16:39.120 --> 0:16:41.440 it through that program. But it gave me. It really 0:16:41.480 --> 0:16:44.400 changed my life and gave me that confidence to navigate 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:47.360 the world because I witnessed my parents who had the 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:51.520 desire this talent, but they didn't know necessarily, Oh that 0:16:51.680 --> 0:16:54.680 was a little dark how to navigate the world. And 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:57.880 that's where the education came in, coupled with what I 0:16:57.960 --> 0:17:00.880 learned from seeing them, and because they were both entrepreneurs 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:02.960 and my mom had a daycare, my dad had a 0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:06.560 landscaping company, but they were never able to really scale 0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:08.159 the business and take it to a point where they 0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:09.119 could retire from it. 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:11.399 Like do you feel like they built the business to 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:14.959 be like self employed versus like building an actual organization. 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:17.040 At one thousand percent even to this day. I mean, 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:19.080 my dad still has his business and it's still basically 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:19.720 the same. 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:22.600 Way, like he's working for himself versus he has a 0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:27.159 team absolutely okayutely perfect, And that's actually I want to 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:30.560 say that, like, kudos to your dad, I think scaling 0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:34.399 and delegating work in a business is very it's a 0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:35.520 very hard. 0:17:35.520 --> 0:17:37.919 Thing to do. But kudos to him is to stay 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:39.440 in business as long as he has. 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:42.840 Yeah, it is a blessing because you know, I grew 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:45.879 up my mom came here, you know, immigrated here from 0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:48.440 Belize illegally for a better opportunity, and they were able 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:51.320 to do that together and they're still married to this day. 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:53.600 Blessed with that as well. But they taught me a 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:56.080 lot of those things and we had a we were 0:17:56.119 --> 0:17:58.520 able to have all our needs taken care of growing up. 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:01.200 And so I knew myself watching them that I knew 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:03.000 one day I had to have my own business to 0:18:03.040 --> 0:18:05.439 get that same freedom. But I also knew that I 0:18:05.480 --> 0:18:08.520 needed the education if it was ever going to be sustainable. Nice, 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:11.080 and that's where that business school came in and really 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:14.040 really changed my life, honestly, all right. 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:17.439 And then just so you know, unless you're cooking for 0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:18.280 everybody in the. 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:20.200 Studio, yeah, we do can be done. 0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:22.879 He's over here cooking for a family, and that's. 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:24.560 What I'm used to looking. I'm gonna get eat something. 0:18:25.000 --> 0:18:27.600 Somebody's you know, I'm trying to judge him hard because 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:31.080 he looks a little too clean cut, guys. So one 0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:32.919 of his tortillas from here looked like it could be 0:18:33.200 --> 0:18:33.840 Crispy burn. 0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:36.880 It's a little do you know, you just. 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:41.080 Put yeah, so you know, just so you know, guys, 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:45.760 we're judging. I mean, right now, I'll see one brown tortilla. 0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:48.880 It looked like it could be an African American tortilla. 0:18:49.480 --> 0:18:53.840 Just saying, but all right, So so you're in l A, 0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:57.040 You're you're you're moving up in this in this organization. 0:18:57.520 --> 0:18:59.600