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Speaker 1: discretion is advised. The World's of Vigie Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 1: I also want to talk about and I forgot what

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Speaker 1: it was, the blame pie. There's many many slices on

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Speaker 1: this pie. I'm gonna bring some blame pie to our

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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving show. How about that? We'll have some blame pie

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Speaker 1: kind of pie. People make fun of me all the time.

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Speaker 1: They call me a contrarian. I'm really not a contrarian.

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Speaker 1: I just don't always see things exactly the same way, right,

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Speaker 1: you see things contrary to whatever? No, I don't. I'm

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Speaker 1: out here in the service something. You get the one

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Speaker 1: case of gator, a case of water, in case of clay,

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Speaker 1: he eats clay. I got it. Just that fun. Wasn't

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Speaker 1: that funny? Even get to kiss Tom? Yeah, Mike, I might,

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Speaker 1: I might. Does the restraining order count in Germany. Is

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Speaker 1: that now, take my passport away. My parents were school teachers.

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Speaker 1: I was a PAC ten offensive player of the Year.

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Speaker 1: I got an impressive comfort behind victory against the Vikings

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Speaker 1: that changed the course of that season. True, come on, Paul,

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Speaker 1: true true? Wow. Wow. Yeah, that's pathetic. This is Patriots Unfiltered,

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Speaker 1: fueled by Duncan. All right, welcome into Patriots Unfiltered. It

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Speaker 1: is Thursday. Here, it is Thursday, and I still can't

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Speaker 1: believe I didn't get that yesterday. It's embarrassing, Paul, that's

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Speaker 1: your guy. I mean, I do dominate the games. You do, wow, dude,

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Speaker 1: But I his or not. That's that's really pathetic. And

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Speaker 1: then and then we were talking Felger Pilot on your

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Speaker 1: boy yesterday too. That was that was uncalled for. But

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Speaker 1: get into that. That's right, guys, it's it's deuced covering

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Speaker 1: for Fred. He's in Germany, and if you've seen any

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Speaker 1: We saw some some cheerleaders there, but also some kind

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Speaker 1: on German Fred. We got a little taste of it yesterday,

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Speaker 1: but apparently he arrived in Munich and uh, he's setting

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Speaker 1: the scene there. I guess we'll have to find out

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Speaker 1: what the mood was there mood, But for now it's

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Speaker 1: me and Paul. We'll have Evan joining us shortly. So,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's a long weekend coming up, Paul, we

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Speaker 1: got bye week. It's a long weekend. We're looking forward

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Speaker 1: to anything over the weekend in terms of the NFL,

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Speaker 1: I mean, whatever you're doing, you know, with with with

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Speaker 1: But two teams obviously coming up on the docket for

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Speaker 1: I'm sure I'll flip on the Germany game in the morning.

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Speaker 1: That's always nice you get up here. I'm looking forward

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Speaker 1: had some family things to tend to. But yeah, nothing

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Speaker 1: how do you remember we were here? We were together.

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Speaker 1: celebrating a win. Perhaps. I don't know. I think Minnesota

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Speaker 1: have Oh you have print outs? I did pronounce. I've

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Speaker 1: So that wasn't But that's just an example of, yeah,

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Speaker 1: But there's no one really here to talk and break

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Speaker 1: guys that based on what we've seen in the first half,

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Speaker 1: Evan and yeah, all right, that's okay, Yeah, no, I'm

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Speaker 1: happy birthday today, and of course Veterans Day tomorrow. Matt

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Speaker 1: all the veterans out there, and thank you and otherwise, Paul.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to predict you. It's something similar to what

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Speaker 1: And that's why that that particular quote just sit out

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Speaker 1: we want to score more points, no more turnal and

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Speaker 1: you know, keeping a young player on, you know, mate,

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00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:16,240
Speaker 1: letting the young player know that there's going to be

426
00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,199
Speaker 1: ebbs and flows, and you know, trying to give him

427
00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:19,840
Speaker 1: like we kind of talked about with Mac when Mac

428
00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:21,560
Speaker 1: would come out and you know, maybe he's going to

429
00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,480
Speaker 1: get a bigger picture of things and you know that

430
00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,920
Speaker 1: that will allow him then to you know, get over

431
00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:28,280
Speaker 1: some of the stuff that he's doing. I don't know.

432
00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I I to be honest, I think it's

433
00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,000
Speaker 1: going to continue to be up and down with Cold

434
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,600
Speaker 1: Strange until you get him a full off season and

435
00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,439
Speaker 1: start to you know, put a little weight on him,

436
00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,280
Speaker 1: get them a little bit stronger, have him, you know,

437
00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,520
Speaker 1: trying your I have higher expectations in year two, um,

438
00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,400
Speaker 1: but I think overall my expectations right now are just

439
00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:46,959
Speaker 1: it's really hard for me to say. I think it's

440
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:48,520
Speaker 1: all gonna work out in the second eight games. I

441
00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,160
Speaker 1: think they're going to figure it out. I just I'm

442
00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,120
Speaker 1: struggling to get there right now. And I don't want

443
00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:53,960
Speaker 1: to say that that means that I think they're dead meat.

444
00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,159
Speaker 1: But I don't think they did meet well. I do

445
00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:01,280
Speaker 1: think it's weird that to Forrest Buckner going around Cole

446
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,920
Speaker 1: Strange and forcing a little bit of an errand throw

447
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,240
Speaker 1: on third down was like the breaking point for them

448
00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:10,840
Speaker 1: with Cole Stranger because it keeps on. That has been something.

449
00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,760
Speaker 1: His overaggressiveness or his eagerness to come out and just

450
00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,280
Speaker 1: smack the guy across from him has been something that's

451
00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,800
Speaker 1: been going on since Week one with Cole Strange. If

452
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:21,760
Speaker 1: there's one thing that I'd have to point to and

453
00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:26,160
Speaker 1: say this is something that he's got to fix, it's Yeah,

454
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,240
Speaker 1: he's just coming out of his stance and he's trying

455
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:33,199
Speaker 1: to just go right into people, and sometimes they get

456
00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,720
Speaker 1: use it against him. They use it against him, right, Yeah,

457
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 1: And that's been going on all seasons. So why why

458
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:43,440
Speaker 1: was Sunday against an all Pro defensive tackle into Forrest Buckner,

459
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:47,119
Speaker 1: who beats every point, who beats everybody that he lines

460
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,159
Speaker 1: up across from every week, Like, why was that the

461
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,720
Speaker 1: point where they were like, Nope, can't have it right?

462
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,399
Speaker 1: Even tie it back to the Jets game too. I

463
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,560
Speaker 1: mean it's the same. It's kind of like another players,

464
00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 1: like playing like a defensive player of the year, right, right, Um,

465
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,560
Speaker 1: that's a good point. But I think I like the point,

466
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 1: But I also would wonder about the coaching and how

467
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 1: much if you're you're pointing to something very specific that

468
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 1: he's doing. Yeah, right, so let's say, for argument's sake,

469
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,919
Speaker 1: that this is what they're hammering to him and he

470
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,120
Speaker 1: continues to do it wrong, So what does that make him?

471
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,399
Speaker 1: Mike a repeater? Every repeater, So at some point the

472
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:23,960
Speaker 1: only way that you can get it through to these

473
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 1: guys is to take away playing time. Sure so, and

474
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know what that's happening. I'm

475
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,200
Speaker 1: just right well that I had a ton of conversation

476
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,360
Speaker 1: with him at his locker and like week two or three,

477
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:39,440
Speaker 1: and I was like, how do you balance being aggressive

478
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 1: but not too aggressive? And he looked at me and

479
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 1: he was like, that's the number one question. And I

480
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,640
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, like you know that so clearly that's

481
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,679
Speaker 1: so maybe he's just struggling with that, and that's the

482
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 1: coaching point, right you know, that's that's the thing that

483
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 1: they've really been harping on all the way back to September.

484
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:57,959
Speaker 1: So at right tackle, though, I do think you have

485
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 1: to take a long look at it and say what's

486
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,360
Speaker 1: more important to us, Mike on one, who's a long

487
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:09,120
Speaker 1: term development or getting this thing back on the tracks

488
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 1: this season, because he's the best right tackle on the roster,

489
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,639
Speaker 1: and I don't think it's particularly close. Now. Maybe you

490
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,439
Speaker 1: look at it and say, we want to make right

491
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 1: guard is home. We've moved him around for the first

492
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 1: two years. We want to start stop messing with him.

493
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 1: Maybe they look at it and say, we have a

494
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 1: pocket quarterback and we'd rather the shelf right the interior

495
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,680
Speaker 1: three be solid and worry about the tackles. Maybe that's

496
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 1: the way that they look at it. But for a

497
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 1: month now, right tackle has been a turnstyle for them

498
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 1: that has killed their passing game. In a lot of

499
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 1: situations in the first half against the Colts, they have

500
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,440
Speaker 1: big plays down the field open for mac Jones to hit,

501
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,199
Speaker 1: and the pressure off the right side is in his

502
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 1: face and he can't either can't throw it or he

503
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,879
Speaker 1: airmails the thrower or Mandre on the wheel route like

504
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,439
Speaker 1: this is all because the right tackle. So I think

505
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 1: that guard is going to stabilize itself with David Andrews

506
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 1: coming back. I really do. It's that tackle spot that

507
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 1: there just doesn't seem to be an answer on this

508
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 1: roster for that spot right now. Because Marcus Kennon, even

509
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 1: before he got hurt, gave up eight hurries against the Jets,

510
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 1: so he was he wasn't playing well at all. Right, Yeah,

511
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 1: I mean I think there's there's a lot that mean

512
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,679
Speaker 1: that to me remains I think we all one of

513
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 1: the few things that on this show we all agree

514
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 1: on is that's the biggest problem, right and they got

515
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 1: to figure that out. I don't know if you move

516
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 1: Wit inside and you get Freddie's you know, pro Bowl

517
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,120
Speaker 1: guard thing going, I don't know if that would happen

518
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 1: like at right guard. Like I mean, that's what's a

519
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 1: little bit intriguing to me of just you know, maybe

520
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 1: I think flipping the tackles back, you're kind of too

521
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 1: just too unsecure on the left side with you know,

522
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 1: with Win and Strange over there. But if you were

523
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,399
Speaker 1: to flop maybe put on when you at right tackle,

524
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 1: slide Win in the right guard. You know, then that's

525
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 1: sort of the configuration I would like to see, yeah

526
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 1: is Yeah, make a move Win at right guard because

527
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,360
Speaker 1: his issues at right tackler that his footwork it's all

528
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 1: thrown off because he's switching sides. But on the inside

529
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 1: you don't need to get to that landmark as far

530
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: out as you do at tackle, so he's not having

531
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 1: to explode out of his stance and cut off the

532
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 1: corners at right guard, so he doesn't have to get

533
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 1: as much depth out of his stance on the interior

534
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 1: as he does on the tackle spot. So that would

535
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: that would be what I would do. I would put

536
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 1: Trent Brown at left tackle, colestrange guard, Andrew's at center,

537
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 1: Win at right guard, on Whennu at right tackle. Like,

538
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 1: I think that's your best five configuration. But they're just

539
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 1: messing so much with on Whenny again that I just

540
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,919
Speaker 1: don't know if they'll go there, and I think they

541
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 1: might rather just roll with Yadney could just or Marcus

542
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 1: Cannon when he comes back, and try to work around

543
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 1: the fact that they have a hole at right tackle

544
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 1: versus sharing up that hole and maybe creating a whole

545
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 1: at right guard. Can can I can we transition into

546
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 1: some fullback talk too? I know that's been another point.

547
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 1: Evan and I were kind of talking about it. I

548
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: think Greg was saying, don't you guys talk about punch

549
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 1: and already stuff? No? But I but Ard, I think

550
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,640
Speaker 1: it was when somebody who said, oh, they need the fullback,

551
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 1: and you know, and and I don't know if like schematically,

552
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 1: I feel like they need the fullback, but I the

553
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 1: one thing I do think that this team kind of

554
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 1: lacks is attitude from like the tight ends and the

555
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,679
Speaker 1: and the full back, Like there isn't really a gritty,

556
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 1: mean blocker. And I know this is like a stupid

557
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,160
Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, character thing, but I just

558
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 1: I don't think that they're a tough team. With their

559
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 1: skill position players. There's nobody like I mean, Gronk was

560
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: Gronk Devilin was, you know, just even even you know,

561
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,400
Speaker 1: when you had what's his face the last full back?

562
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: You know, it just it's an element of toughness to

563
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 1: the offense. And and I've been watching and I think

564
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 1: Hunter Henry and John who Smith have had some moments

565
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: as blockers, maybe fewer than than good, more more bad

566
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 1: than good, um, but neither one of those guys is

567
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,479
Speaker 1: a dog blocker kind of guys. I don't know, it's

568
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 1: just it kind of feeds into overall. It just kind

569
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 1: of feeds. That feels to me the offense is a

570
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: little bit soft. I do wonder you know less about

571
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,199
Speaker 1: the mentality. I like get what you're saying more. I

572
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 1: want to wonder more about what Evan was talking about

573
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 1: yesterday in terms of the impact of you know, sending

574
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,199
Speaker 1: a fullback through the middle. I think that's how you explained, yeah,

575
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 1: when you were talking about play action and stuff like

576
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 1: the under center stuff without a fullback is giving them

577
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: all sorts of problems because the difference between a fullback

578
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 1: and a tight end is that the fullback can go

579
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: either direction right. So the tight end is lined up

580
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: on one side of the formation. So you either have

581
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: even if you're in twelve, you either have a two

582
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 1: formations I really man surface on one side or a

583
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 1: three man surface on one side. But that tight end

584
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 1: is basically stuck on that side of the formation. Whereas

585
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: a fullback has a two way go right. He could

586
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: go left or he could go right, so you're able

587
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 1: to make surfaces, you know, three man becomes a four

588
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: man or a three man becomes a four man on

589
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,400
Speaker 1: the right side, and that allows you to be able

590
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 1: to block some of these things and get hat on

591
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: a hat a little bit easier. It's a little simplistic,

592
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: but did you ever watch a game and you know,

593
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:00,919
Speaker 1: you'll they'll do something. Times they'll do those like the

594
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 1: read options and whatnot, and you're like they fake it

595
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, if he gave it to him,

596
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: like there was a huge hole there, right. It's it's

597
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 1: kind of like that though, like the lead fullback sometimes

598
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 1: it's met because they're not as willing to say, oh no,

599
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 1: it's not coming this way, like someone's going to address

600
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: that fullback and just not ignore them. So I do

601
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 1: think that there's an element of when you want to

602
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: try to set those plays up, it's a little bit

603
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 1: easier to do it, you know. And I'm not a

604
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 1: huge fullback and got you you know, I'm not like

605
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 1: this is math though, right, it's literally just math math exactly,

606
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 1: And it's not like I'm saying like, because I'm not

607
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: a huge fullback guy, I don't need to have a

608
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: fullback on the field. Eighty seven percent of the snaps, right,

609
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: But to just go from what they've done the last

610
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: couple of years and then just decide we're not going

611
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: to have a fullback as part of our offense this year,

612
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: to the point where they told Johnson that and they

613
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: just completely changed in tirely the way they I thought

614
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: that was a massive alteration that didn't need to be

615
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: made like that, like black and white, right, And if

616
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 1: you're gonna make it, then make it like you can't

617
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: be an under center team without a fullback, Like I'm sorry,

618
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: It's just it's really hard to do. And certain teams

619
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: that are really good at scheming it, like the Rams.

620
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,479
Speaker 1: The Rams are an eleven personnel team. They don't use

621
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: a fullback, and they're just really good scheming up the

622
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: run game without one by using motion in different types

623
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: of blocks like that. But what they're asking the old

624
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: line or the tight ends in the old line to

625
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: do on these run plays from under center is basically

626
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: they need to hit a combination block somewhere somewhere. A

627
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: guard has to hit a guy on the line of

628
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: scrimmage and then go up to the linebacker level, because

629
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: otherwise the linebacker is just unblocked at the second level

630
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: of the defense. And if that linebacker recognizes run like

631
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: Shack Leonard being in the huddle right, and he recognizes

632
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 1: that it's run, then he's triggering downhill so quickly that

633
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: you can't make that combination block. So that's the issue

634
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: that they're having, is that they're running from under center,

635
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 1: they're running into four guys on the defense, and they

636
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: have three guys to block four and there's just not

637
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: enough blockers on that side unless you really get those

638
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Speaker 1: combination blocks up to the second level, which is hard

639
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Speaker 1: to do. So so you think I don't listen to you.

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Speaker 1: I listened to you. Yeah, it's it's really an interesting

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Speaker 1: Uh you know. What I was saying was if you're

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Speaker 1: not going to have a fullback, then you need to

643
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Speaker 1: be a gun team. You need to be in the shotgun.

644
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Speaker 1: And I do think that was what they planned on.

645
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Speaker 1: Right then the offensive line fell apart, and then then

646
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Speaker 1: all and then the quarterback got hurt, and they started

647
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Speaker 1: to do some other things because they had to, and

648
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Speaker 1: then they had some success with some of those other things,

649
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: and they were like, oh, maybe we were a little hasty.

650
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 1: Now you're kind of left without the personnel to do

651
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Speaker 1: what ostensibly you've done best this year. It doesn't even

652
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: fit the quarterback right. The quarterback is Mac Jones's numbers

653
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Speaker 1: from under center going back to the start of last season.

654
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: I pulled these earlier this week because I made this

655
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: exact point in a post that I wrote about the offense.

656
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: He's been a bad under center passer for two years now.

657
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Speaker 1: It's just not something he's comfortable with because he didn't

658
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Speaker 1: do it much at Alabama. And he's a spread quarterback,

659
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Speaker 1: so you don't have a fullback. You have a quarterback

660
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Speaker 1: that's more comfortable in the gun. Like. This is why

661
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Speaker 1: I always talk about RPOs all the time. What are

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Speaker 1: we doing right? Like? This is why I always harp

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Speaker 1: on RPOs is because if you're going to be a

664
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Speaker 1: gun team, then you have to run RPOs. That's that's

665
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Speaker 1: the way that you get play action on. You've had

666
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Speaker 1: the first half hour for the RPO cartis you lose

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Speaker 1: thirty one minutes and got it well? Eight five five

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Speaker 1: Pats five hundred. Love to hear from you guys today.

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Speaker 1: Send us an email, web radio at Patriots dot com.

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Speaker 1: We're finding right Matt Morrell is that Matt. Happy birthday

671
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Speaker 1: to the Marines, of course, thank you, thank and Happy

672
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Speaker 1: Veterans Day tomorrow to thank you for the service Corps

673
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Speaker 1: Green today. If you can't tell, here you go. I

674
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: figured you were out just getting wasted before the show

675
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Speaker 1: was or something. I know. I know the celebrations get

676
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: a little crazy there for the Marines. I'll be tonight

677
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: drinking during Black Panther. I thought I thought I was

678
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: gonna say something like that. We couldn't get hammered. We're

679
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: busy protecting the country, right, that's what they do. Well,

680
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: the only way to protect the country's hammered. Well, let's

681
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Speaker 1: let's hop to Melvin real quick here to kick things off. Hey, Melvin,

682
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: what's going on? That's up, y'all? Y's going on Thursday show?

683
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: Paul heard that he's still with my stuff. I did.

684
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 1: I guess I was gonna say it anyway, but um,

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Speaker 1: general question, I guess just getting back to I got

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Speaker 1: a question about Justin Herbert. Do you think that he's

687
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Speaker 1: in a situation and I'm similar to like Philip Rivers,

688
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: that really good quarterback. Whatever it is like that he's

689
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Speaker 1: in the AFC looking up with a couple of pretenders

690
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: with the Court of Kansas City and the Bills that

691
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Speaker 1: he'll be a really good quarterback. But I don't know

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Speaker 1: if he ever get over the hump because the other

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Speaker 1: people around him. Even he's he's like the second here

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Speaker 1: right with the Lamar Jacksons and maybe even Joe Burrow

695
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Speaker 1: that little rank, but I don't know if they ever

696
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: have the supporting cast around enough. I know what you're all.

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Speaker 1: I wonder. I wonder about him. I think he's obviously

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Speaker 1: ridiculously talented, but I do wonder two things. What if

699
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Speaker 1: the Chargers are just one of those teams that always

700
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Speaker 1: finds a way to get you know, six or seven

701
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Speaker 1: guys that are really important hurt, which they do every year,

702
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: and it's happened again, um hamstring. But beyond that, with

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Speaker 1: with just Herbert himself, and I will be fully up front.

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Speaker 1: I love watching the guy play. I think he's amazingly talented.

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Speaker 1: I just feel like there might be something missing and

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Speaker 1: I go back to Oregon with him, like I watched him.

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00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: You don't watch college football, so Barth Barth would be

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Speaker 1: able to answer this question. I watched a lot of

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Speaker 1: Herbert the very first the very first game of his

710
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Speaker 1: last year at Oregon. They played at Auburn. Yeah, Oregon

711
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: was as much better than Auburn as a team could be.

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Speaker 1: Herbert looked absolutely dominant. You look up at the end

713
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Speaker 1: of the game and they lost. Some guys just have

714
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Speaker 1: that like I'm better than you, my team's better than yours.

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Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, your team somehow

716
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Speaker 1: had more points than mine. And I'm not saying it

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Speaker 1: was Herbert's fault, because I don't think it was. I

718
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Speaker 1: remember the game and it wasn't Herbert's fault that they lost.

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Speaker 1: But things kind of happen. It's kind of anti Brady.

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Speaker 1: It's the anti Brady. Yeah, like weird things kind of happened.

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Speaker 1: And I watch Herbert play and I'm like, that's not

722
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Speaker 1: a nine and eight team, Like he's too good to

723
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,919
Speaker 1: be like eight and nine, nine and eight every year? Why?

724
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Speaker 1: And I don't think it's necessarily him, but I just

725
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Speaker 1: think bad things happened. Do you think that coaching style.

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00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 1: I think the coaching style is part of it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: along the lines of the bad things, he actually leads

728
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Speaker 1: the league and pick sixes since entering the NFL. I

729
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 1: think we got one. And it's just kind of like

730
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Speaker 1: one of those things where that guy leads a league

731
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Speaker 1: in pick six is like, he's ridiculously talented. How does

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Speaker 1: Justin Herbert? How does he make in these mistakes? Right? Like,

733
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Speaker 1: it's just it's weird. And he's also this year near

734
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Speaker 1: the bottom of the league and average depth of target,

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Speaker 1: so like one of the biggest arms in the league

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Speaker 1: is not throwing the ball down. This year in particular,

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Speaker 1: has been a little bit different. He's lost, you know,

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Speaker 1: he's lost some of his pillars up from him, hasn't

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Speaker 1: played in forever. Keenan Allen is, Yeah, he's been a

740
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: bit bit part because he's been out all year. Um,

741
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 1: they've lost, you know, they've lost, they tried to redo

742
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: the defense, they've lost some of the pieces there. You

743
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 1: know around here everybody points to jay Z Jackson. It's

744
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 1: been a mess. But there's still like five and three, right,

745
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: so they're still kind of in it. Um. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I really like Justin Herbert, but I don't know how

747
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Speaker 1: many years I'm gonna go before I sound like one

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Speaker 1: of those guys that just refuses to admit that maybe

749
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Speaker 1: he's not as good as I thought, because I just

750
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: in the just blown away by the ability. Philip Rivers

751
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 1: is a good calm. I mean, he's obviously the quarterback

752
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: that that was there before. But but if he can

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00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,399
Speaker 1: do what Philip Rivers did, that, I'll say then he

754
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: fulfilled it. Because Philip Rivers was really good for a

755
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 1: lot of years and they got to conference. They never

756
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 1: got over the hump. This guy can't get into the playoffs. Yeah, yeah,

757
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: that's fair. He'll keep getting chances though with Hey, thanks Melvin.

758
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: He's got to keep getting chances though. I mean just

759
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: with the arm, the size, I mean, this throw that

760
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Speaker 1: made quarterback and I know, like this is These are

761
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Speaker 1: the kinds of things like when I argue with my

762
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Speaker 1: boy Felger, Like Felger doesn't like arm talent. He scops

763
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: at that kind of Oh yeah, yesterday he was arguing

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Speaker 1: Drew bledsoever. I don't bring it up, Evan. You know

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Speaker 1: it was all for the audience of one. I swear

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00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: to god he was trolling me. Yeah. Um, but I

767
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Speaker 1: oh yeah, I had my my my text guys, my

768
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 1: my baseball guys, um text me. And because I've never

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Speaker 1: seen Paul so mad, I thought he was to go

770
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Speaker 1: over the table at fellgro And if I wasn't like

771
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 1: fighting a cold, I may have um Like he actually

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Speaker 1: said the following sentence in the middle of the argument

773
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Speaker 1: that he was having with me. The only thing that

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Speaker 1: Bledsoe did better than mac Jones's throw except play quarterback.

775
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: He's a quarterback. They both quarterbacks. The only thing that

776
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 1: the guy I argued for was better at just passing

777
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 1: the ball, like just that, just that, that's the only thing.

778
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: Not running. Yeah, Herbert makes some throws where like he's

779
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: on the far hash and he throws it into the

780
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: cover two hole on the opposite side of the field.

781
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 1: Had one about three weeks ago that they kept showing

782
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, oh my god, are you kidding?

783
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: And that's why I think like he's there for the

784
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 1: long haul. Yeah, like like some some players, some quarterbacks,

785
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Speaker 1: I get the debate. I mean, Daniel Jones maybe one.

786
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: I know he's a can be debated, but it's but

787
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: you just you look at Herbert and you're like this guy,

788
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: like how do you let that guy? And I also

789
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: don't discount the rib problem too, which like think about

790
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: playing quarterback with broken you know whatever. I just look

791
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 1: at her actually cartilage or whatever was what what? What?

792
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: What does Josh Allen have that that Herbert doesn't from

793
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 1: like a physical tools perspective, right, So I would argue

794
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 1: that Herbert's probably a better athlete. Not to take anything

795
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: away from Josh Allen because he's awesome, but like the

796
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: way that Brian Dable brought him up and then Stefan

797
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,280
Speaker 1: Diggs comes along, and like the way that Buffalo developed,

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00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: I agree with you, And you know, I love Josh Allen,

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00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,479
Speaker 1: you know, I just like love watching him play. But

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00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,280
Speaker 1: in terms of just pure skill, yeah, like Herbert's probably

801
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: even more skilled than Josh Allen. Josh Allen's just got

802
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: that like runaway freight train in him that he likes

803
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: to like run guys over. And I've never seen that

804
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: kind of edge Herbert. That was He's probably a smoother athlete, faster.

805
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 1: That was the one, like psyche knock on him coming

806
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: out was that he's kind of, yeah, kind of a

807
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,280
Speaker 1: California boy. And that's why I say, you know, after

808
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Speaker 1: I don't know how many years it will be, it'll

809
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,720
Speaker 1: be a long time before I cut ties because pretty stubborn,

810
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: as you might know. Yeah, um, but that's what I

811
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: would wonder about him is it's not does it mean?

812
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: Why does it mean? It's not quite j Cutler territory,

813
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: but like we're we're you know, smoking. That's like what

814
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: what the knoxo about him coming out were is that

815
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: it just you know, okay, and then and then you

816
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: end up at the Chargers where you're sharing a stadium.

817
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 1: I mean when he first got there, they didn't even

818
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: probably they were in limbo. I think initially weren't they

819
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 1: Maybe they just made a deal. But either way, you're

820
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: kind of the B team in LA that doesn't really

821
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: care unless you're really good, and then everybody cares. But

822
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: if you're averaged, everybody's kind of like, you know more

823
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: than us. And I agree with you. Yeah, that was

824
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,479
Speaker 1: that was bad. We got some we got some email

825
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: stacking up here. Um so, but don't I read some perhaps?

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Speaker 1: Oh sorry, why don't you read something I'm dying over here?

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Speaker 1: Um Sean from Pocatello, Idaho? Hope, I said that right,

828
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 1: he's a Pocatello, Pocatello. I've I've been there with your

829
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Speaker 1: with your lady when you're driving back. Yes, all right.

830
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: I rode a horse and Donnelle Idaho not too far

831
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Speaker 1: away from what was that like the only time I've

832
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 1: ever had I needed that that was good. That was good,

833
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: Paul on a horse getting up. I didn't wanted that

834
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: mental images. Wait, what was that? You guys were like

835
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Speaker 1: driving back and on a ranch and let's stop at

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Speaker 1: the ranch and her sister lives there. We stayed overnight,

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00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: like her sister, farm girl sister. Yeah, anything to you

838
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: doing milk and cows or anything. No, no, just I

839
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: had all I could do to be on a horse

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Speaker 1: and not kill myself. It was like one of the

841
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: most stressful hours of my life. It's scary and scary.

842
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Speaker 1: My dad we went to a dude ranch in Arizona

843
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Speaker 1: when I was a kid, and my dad was like

844
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Speaker 1: slipping like the guys like twenties to like take us

845
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 1: out on private things like I had never ridden a

846
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 1: horse before. And then the cowboy guy just all of

847
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: a sudden like all right, let's go, and he just

848
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: starts getting up, and I'm like I started screaming because

849
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 1: I was supposed to fall off into like the briar patch.

850
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: It was scary. Sorry, thank you, Matt. That horse talk

851
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: a horse though, we just did play the colts. Uh

852
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 1: good h So email here that this twenty thirteen he's

853
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: been listening to just twenty thirteen. That was the year

854
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: picked up a Mendola, the next Westwelker, Aaron Dobson, the

855
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 1: next Randy moss Kenbrell Thompkins, Josh Boys, Comma apparentheses. This

856
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: was a hard season to watch offensively. Amndola was hurt

857
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: within the first few games grand cat surgery. Out of

858
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: almost the whole season, we did discover Julian Edelman had

859
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 1: so many crazy twists and turns that became hilked on

860
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 1: PFW and hearing and everyone's sight, everyone's insights. Sorry, My

861
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 1: question is, with how bad our offenses looked this season

862
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 1: and the last two weeks with Mack as starter again,

863
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 1: do you think there is still a possibility that Bill

864
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: goes back to Zappi at some point this season. That's

865
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 1: for you, Evan, We're doing this again. He's got he's

866
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 1: got the stats too. I can lay him out for

867
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 1: you from now. I don't need the stats against the

868
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 1: Lines and the Browns, thank you. I really thought that

869
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 1: the last like six drives against the Bears or was

870
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 1: gonna do enough to Just so you know, I had

871
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: little at this conversation yesterday too, And the only thing

872
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: people really remember about the Bears game or the first

873
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: two drives the right exactly. So they come into the game,

874
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: they change up what they're doing offensively because Zappi's in

875
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 1: the game, they actually call some good plays and pull

876
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: out some some good schemes against against Chicago. And then

877
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,479
Speaker 1: when the two plays that they had up their back

878
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: pocket for that moment when Zappy came in the game

879
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: run out, what did the rest of it look? But

880
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 1: I would even say, like I would have been more

881
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: impressed if they were actual drives. Like I give Zappy credit.

882
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: He came off the bench that down ten nothing, you know,

883
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 1: two touchdowns. But they were basically two plays, right, That's

884
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But it wasn't even like they went like,

885
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: you know, six yards, eight yards, ten yards, third down conversion. No,

886
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 1: it was two bombs. They completed two bombs, and that's

887
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 1: how they scored the two touchdowns. And again I'm not

888
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 1: taking credit away from he doesn't lose credit because they

889
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: only scored an explosive plays. I don't take any credit away.

890
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: But to Evan's point, when those when the explosive plays disappeared,

891
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: they had nothing. They never even crossed the fifty yard

892
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 1: line right in the in the second half, and was

893
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: it six drives? I think it was like six. Yeah, yeah,

894
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: I played off the top of my head, all right,

895
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: so five or six drives? Right? It just you just

896
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: go nebulous when you don't have an exactly the numbers

897
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: for Zappy against the Lions and the Browns are so

898
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 1: ridiculously stupid that it has to just be a Lions

899
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: or Browns thing. Like, I am not convinced that Bailey

900
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: Zappy against the Jets defense would have put up seventeen

901
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: yards per attempt off of play action. Like, I'm just

902
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 1: not convinced that that's the same. I tried yesterday to

903
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: my boy Tony. I was like, you know, like, you

904
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 1: don't think there's a difference between playing the worst defense

905
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: in football and one of the three best. I go,

906
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 1: do you really think Zappy would have an over one

907
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: hundred passer rating still if he had to play the

908
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: Jets and the Colts the last two weeks? I don't know.

909
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, Like, if we can't be intellectually honest,

910
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 1: then what are we doing? Yeah? Right, right, interesting little

911
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 1: question here from sean oh and East Taunton. Are we

912
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: underestimating the absence of Brian Hoyer for mact Jones in

913
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: this offense. How big of a role was it having

914
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 1: Hoyer on the sideline to assist Matt and Judge raking

915
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: things down. I thought that's kind of interesting. I mean,

916
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: I know he's been still around the building. Well, I

917
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: was gonna ask us, guys, because I almost asked Bill

918
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: at the press conference last Friday, and I didn't want

919
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: to because I'm not at every press conference and I

920
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,720
Speaker 1: didn't know if that had been addressed. Has he been

921
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: asked about Hoyer's whereabouts he's been around. We've seen him

922
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: poking around practice and things like that during media windows. Right,

923
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: I'm hiding behind trees. Hello, I haven't seen him on

924
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: the sideline, But I also haven't looked closely on the

925
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 1: sideline to see if he's in the street closer, you know,

926
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: sweatsuit or whatever on the sideline. But I guess it's possible.

927
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I think you'd have to

928
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: ask Mac and like, you know, get it. He's eligible

929
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: to be activated, right, Yes, you can practice at any point. Yes, yeah,

930
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: but I mean if you talk about if if I mean,

931
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: I just see maybe Hoyer is a sounding board that

932
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: Mac maybe has some kind of. I don't want to.

933
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,760
Speaker 1: I don't want this to imply that he doesn't trust

934
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: or you know, truly believe in map Patricia. But like

935
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: he I think he has a little bit more close

936
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 1: one on one history with Hoyer. And I think sometimes

937
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: when quarterbacks speak quarterback to each other, it's just, you know,

938
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 1: it's outside of the coach speak, even regardless of how

939
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 1: you feel about the coaches. So um, I don't know.

940
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:15,280
Speaker 1: I just I think it's it might be an interesting

941
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: thing going forward, just a quality guy to have back

942
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 1: on the sidelines. Let's go back to the phones here.

943
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:26,439
Speaker 1: We got Eldred coming in hot. Hey, Eldred, what's going on? Hey?

944
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 1: So that's how y'all doing the day? Good Man? Look

945
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 1: the show especially open topic they have it, yes, sir,

946
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: speaking about about the line about you know, constpt of

947
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: the line block. There's three and four. Don't they have

948
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 1: to do with the play collar and office line coach

949
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: if they ain't never did it before, they don't know

950
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: how instead of something about just giving them the nod

951
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,959
Speaker 1: to do it, I guess so yeah, I mean, I look,

952
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 1: I think all that's a factor in all of this.

953
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, it's personnel, right.

954
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: I mean, do you have a tight end that's a

955
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 1: dominant blocking tight end like a Gronkowski. Do you have

956
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: an offensive line that's capable of making those interior combination

957
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: blocks I was talking about, Like, I think a lot

958
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: of it is they dried up on the whiteboard and

959
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: it looks like it should work, and then you get

960
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: into a game and it's not hitting the way that

961
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 1: they wanted to hit. So maybe that's the coaching asking

962
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: too much out of individual players. But at the end

963
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: of the day, I do also think some of the

964
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: onus is on the players to go out there and

965
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: execute what's being called. I agree with that to somewhat extent,

966
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:32,879
Speaker 1: but do you also got to teach that. But if

967
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: you can't teach that, you know, you got what you got,

968
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, that's where I look at it, you know.

969
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,760
Speaker 1: But but then again, like I said, there are things possible.

970
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,240
Speaker 1: Maybe they turned around after the vibe. Maybe they won't,

971
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:51,240
Speaker 1: but I'm just hoping. And now, Evan On, thank you again.

972
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 1: You greet me once a while back because you cut

973
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: me down about it ain't thet the coordinators just mac.

974
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: Then I said, you've met pubs in the game and

975
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: a real coordinator and this that I say that the

976
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: first week you told me, yeah, no, here we all evolved. Yeah,

977
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't remember the first time that coming up,

978
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 1: But just I'll continue down that road forever. I mean,

979
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: I think all these people that are out there that

980
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: are saying Mac isn't the guy, like we need to

981
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: give up on Mac Jones. There's so few quarterbacks I

982
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 1: think that would survive in this environment. There's so few.

983
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 1: And that's not like to make excuses for Mac Jones.

984
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: It's just to look at it and just look at

985
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: your own division, Like look at what Buffalo has done

986
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: for Josh Allen, look at what Miami has done for

987
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: two Like there was a lot of people down in

988
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: Miami with Tua that we're saying, first two seasons, I'm

989
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: not sure about this guy. I don't know if this

990
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 1: guy's it. You know, the arm strength hasn't come back

991
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: to where it was pre hip injury, and he's not

992
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 1: making throws down the field, and it's all very very

993
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: limited what we're able to do with him. And a

994
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 1: lot of the same things that people say about Mac Jones,

995
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: and next thing, you know, they get him a wizard

996
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: and Mike McDaniel. They trade for Tyree Hill and now

997
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: he's the best passer in the league. Right. So it's

998
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: just it's kind of like what we were talking about yesterday, Mike,

999
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: when you said, well, how much of an environment do

1000
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: you have to create for Mac Jones to succeed? Yes? Like, yes,

1001
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: like you do have to create a cushioning environment for

1002
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 1: Mac Jones. He's not transcendent, Like he's not going to

1003
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: just take over an offense and make it his and

1004
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:38,280
Speaker 1: be able to mask a bad offensive line, or mask

1005
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: average skill players, or mask below average or average coaching,

1006
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,479
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it. He does need more

1007
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: help than that, and I think that that's true for

1008
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 1: ninety nine percent of quarterbacks in the NFL. I mean

1009
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: you just look at Miami, you look at Philadelphia now

1010
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: with Jalen Hurts. Like Jalen Hurts, No one thought Jalen

1011
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:02,879
Speaker 1: Hurts was going to be this good buddy, certainly not us.

1012
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: Remember what we used to talk about. He looked like

1013
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. I mean, like the best places that they

1014
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 1: made in those joint practices where Jalen Hurts running around

1015
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 1: and he looks fast, he can't pass right and then

1016
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: now you know Nick's Errandian comes in, he designs an

1017
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 1: offense around his strains, They trade for a j. Brown,

1018
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: they draft Avante Smith in the first round, and now

1019
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he's an MVP candidate. And I

1020
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 1: just I don't know how you can see these things

1021
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: happening around the league and not conclude that these quarterbacks

1022
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: are getting the proper help from the organization that they need.

1023
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: And then look at Mac Jones's situation and it's basically

1024
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 1: the same cast of characters that he had around him

1025
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: last year, and Matt Patricia Colling plays in running the

1026
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 1: offense instead of Josh McDaniels, and he's regressed. It's I mean,

1027
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: that's all fact. Yeah, yeah, what's changed that there's probably

1028
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: nuance in there that we can We've talked about a

1029
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: million times before, but that's all fact. You can't argue

1030
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: that he hasn't been given what some of these other

1031
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 1: young quarterbacks have been given. Well, and I guess we

1032
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: got to see. I mean, I'm with you, guys, though,

1033
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 1: I just I think he's there kind of guy, and

1034
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna stick with him, and there's gonna

1035
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: be a lot of questions about this year about quarterbacks

1036
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: and all that. I mean, at least until you give

1037
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: him protection, Like I don't feel like you really have

1038
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 1: given him a fair chance. It's also just like where

1039
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 1: do you get an upgrade from because it's not going

1040
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 1: to come in the draft, Because I think Hurts is

1041
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: probably the last guy that you can think of that

1042
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 1: slipped to the second round, that had great natural talent

1043
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: that slipped because of concerns about him as an actual passer. Right,

1044
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: He's a great athlete, could throw the ball a mile,

1045
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,800
Speaker 1: but is he actually going to develop the processing skills

1046
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:39,399
Speaker 1: in the accuracy? So he slips to the second round? Dak,

1047
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 1: I guess now there, but there, you know, that's the

1048
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 1: last guy that has succeeded. Now, there's been some other

1049
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 1: young guys that slipped with the same kind of thing.

1050
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,959
Speaker 1: You know, a guy like Malik Willis right now, who

1051
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 1: knows right now? So far they haven't even let him

1052
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: throw right so we have no idea. But yeah, to

1053
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: you a point, maybe there's a there's a there's a

1054
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: guy um, you know, like Kellen Mond. You know two

1055
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,280
Speaker 1: years ago, like I, I you know, I had a competition.

1056
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 1: I wasn't a huge Kellen mont guy. Um, but there

1057
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,800
Speaker 1: are some skills there that you could say, well, with coaching,

1058
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 1: we can do X, Y and Z, and it's not

1059
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 1: necessarily taking you a top fifteen pick to get that guy.

1060
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 1: You know. I think Willis was in the third round,

1061
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 1: even right later. I think I think he went after

1062
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 1: Bailey's Appy. Okay, so he went after Yeah, Okay, I

1063
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: thought because he was that's the I thought he was

1064
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 1: third round and those are the only two guys was

1065
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 1: picking in Willis before. I could have sworn because when

1066
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:41,280
Speaker 1: they had that NFL thing where they called Bailey's Bailey's Appy,

1067
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 1: they had cameras at his house and Bill calls Bailey's

1068
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: appiances were picking you. His agent says like, you got

1069
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 1: drafted before Malik Willis, like in the video. Okay, So

1070
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: I believe it was that's the order went in, but

1071
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: it just happens. So so let's let's let's take that, queen,

1072
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 1: let's take that, and what would you guys like, would

1073
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: you rather of taking a flyer in the fourth round

1074
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 1: of Malik Willis then bailey Zappy like you You're going

1075
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 1: to take a quarterback? I say no, because I think

1076
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 1: that they envisioned Bailey zappy as being like a Brian

1077
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: Hoyer esque backup that can be Mac Jones's backup and

1078
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,399
Speaker 1: have a similar skill set so that if he does

1079
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 1: go down, just like this year, you're not reinventing the

1080
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 1: wheel on the fly to fit a quarterback that's a

1081
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 1: mobile quarterback versus a pocket passer. I think they thought

1082
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 1: that Mac was the guy, and they had their backup

1083
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 1: and starter for at least the next four years under

1084
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: rookie contracts, and that that is a great setup if

1085
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: it works out. Yeah, let's go back to the phone's

1086
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 1: Dwayne is in Boston. Hey Dwayne, what's going on? Hey? Um,

1087
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 1: I have a question for you guys. Fire away. Well,

1088
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:49,439
Speaker 1: I see Mac Jones. I've called it before. He looks

1089
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 1: like Colt McCoy to me, lately, I feel like he

1090
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 1: looks a little worse, maybe more like Trent Dilbert. My

1091
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:59,919
Speaker 1: question is, do you think that if Mac there's nothing

1092
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 1: proven the offense has been improved, but they can avoid turnovers.

1093
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 1: Is there a way that the defense could lead us

1094
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:13,240
Speaker 1: to some playoff wins? I think thanks to Wayne, Um,

1095
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's a question we talked about

1096
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 1: a lot. I mean, it's just the teams are too good.

1097
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 1: There's too many good offenses. I just as much as

1098
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 1: I want to think you can beat Buffalo with oh

1099
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 1: my gosh, we held them to three points, like, it's

1100
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 1: just that seems like ridiculous, Like it just doesn't seem possible.

1101
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 1: I mean, at the very least, you just need an

1102
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: offense that, like you said, doesn't turn the ball over

1103
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 1: and can finish in the red zone. Like I mean,

1104
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 1: they think if you have those two things, you might

1105
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 1: be okay. But they're not even really close to those

1106
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 1: things yet. I mean they're just scratching the surface of

1107
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 1: the turnover stuff, and then the red zone remains like,

1108
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:41,839
Speaker 1: you know, near the bottom of the league. I mean,

1109
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: getting stopped at the second two to three yard line.

1110
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: It's just you know that those kind of things speak

1111
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 1: more to me than just like this is a problem,

1112
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 1: you know with execution. It's just like that that to

1113
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: me is like a mentality of you get to that

1114
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: two yard line and you're not going to be denied

1115
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 1: offensive line, et cetera, et cetera. I think it looks

1116
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 1: I go back to that twenty eighteen playoff run, because

1117
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 1: that's the last playoff run we can go back to

1118
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: how many points did they ended up scoring in Kansas

1119
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 1: City to win the AFA Championship. Seven had like forty

1120
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: something in the other game, right, So charging everybody always

1121
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 1: comes back to I know, right, I believe it's one

1122
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 1: that's that's a hill. I die all often, people. But

1123
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 1: the point is is that eventually, in a playoff run,

1124
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: which I think we're getting way ahead of ourselves here,

1125
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 1: but eventually, in a playoff run, you're gonna have to

1126
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: put thirty five points on the board to beat a

1127
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 1: good team. Like whether it's the divisional round or it's

1128
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 1: the championship game, or it's the super Bowl, it's the

1129
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 1: wildcard round. Now, like, eventually you're going to have to

1130
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 1: put thirty plus points on the board to win a

1131
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 1: football game. And that's like part of the question when

1132
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: Mac and when I say like it needs to be

1133
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 1: perfect around him, Like, I think what we talked about was,

1134
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: you know, setting up the team, the scheme, the weapons,

1135
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:51,800
Speaker 1: you know that that stuff needs to be perfect. I

1136
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: also just wandered though, within the context of a game,

1137
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 1: when the game isn't going perfect, you know, like like

1138
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: that's more of like a micro level. But I think

1139
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 1: that that's the thing that you know, great teams have

1140
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 1: and that that's a great example of that team that

1141
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 1: you can win. However, you need to win. And I

1142
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 1: know Bill talks about the game declaring itself and all

1143
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 1: that stuff, but what do you got? What do you

1144
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 1: got here? Your eyes? Oh nothing, I'm just I'm infatuated

1145
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 1: by by the band on the field. That's one of

1146
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 1: my favorite all time plays. See, yeah, there's so many

1147
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: things that are so like so wrong about this. The

1148
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 1: offense when whether it's Zabi or Mac, the on schedule

1149
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 1: offense for the Patriots is pretty good, right, like play

1150
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 1: action on schedule out of the sticks, they're they're okay there.

1151
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 1: It's like you said, what negative players come up or

1152
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 1: they get into like a couple of drives where there's

1153
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 1: a rut, right, and they're not moving the football very well.

1154
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 1: We come back to all the stats, right, like comebacks,

1155
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 1: how they've come back in in won a game one

1156
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 1: time with mac Joe's and it was against the Texans

1157
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 1: last year. Is his only fourth quarter comeback on his

1158
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 1: ledger and his entire NFL career is against the Texans

1159
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 1: last year, right, And so it's another one that I'm

1160
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 1: die on all the time. Well, I almost died during

1161
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 1: that game, Paul. That was the first time I think

1162
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 1: Paul saw me absolutely beside myself. I used to right,

1163
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 1: when the offense when the opponent scores more more than

1164
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 1: twenty five points over over, so they can't play from behind,

1165
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 1: they can't play in a shootout. So when they have

1166
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 1: a game like they did against the Colts where everything

1167
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 1: goes great, then I know it's the formula, right, I mean,

1168
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 1: And that's what's I think, Like, that's the point I've

1169
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 1: reached over the last like maybe three to four weeks,

1170
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,959
Speaker 1: which just like this is what it is. I gotta

1171
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:33,439
Speaker 1: stop like thinking that all of a sudden it's gonna

1172
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 1: be they get in a hole and they're able to

1173
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 1: dig themselves out, or you know. I think when that

1174
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 1: game finally hopefully does happen, at some point, it will

1175
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 1: be like, oh my gosh, like they came back from

1176
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 1: behind and they were down like fifteen points and they

1177
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 1: scored thirty two, and you know that that game. But again,

1178
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,919
Speaker 1: I'm struggling to have a have hope that that that's

1179
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 1: going to happen. But I got an interesting email here

1180
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 1: Joel joel Weiss. He says, you won't read that's the subject.

1181
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I will, um, that's that's a little trick

1182
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 1: they like to use email read well, No, and it's uh,

1183
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 1: it's it's make Bill walk the plank for this. Uh.

1184
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 1: When the Patriots part ways with Bill by the end

1185
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 1: of the season, do you think he tries he tries

1186
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,359
Speaker 1: to find another head coach job to chase you. Um.

1187
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 1: I think my just quick point on this is that

1188
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 1: if you didn't have like and and and I say

1189
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 1: this with full criticism towards him for how this offensive

1190
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 1: situation was handled, I think that that was a mistake.

1191
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 1: I don't think it was handled correctly, that it's not

1192
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 1: handling well. But I will say that Bill Belichick is

1193
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 1: probably the only thing that's really keeping you in the

1194
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 1: mix of these of the of right now, like you

1195
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 1: haven't lost to the Jets yet, Like it can get worse,

1196
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 1: it can get a whole lot. You're five and four.

1197
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 1: I just think he gives you an advantage still, even

1198
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 1: despite his mistakes, which he does make. UM, I still

1199
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 1: think he's he's he's an excellent coach, and I think

1200
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 1: he's he's getting stuff out of this team that, you know,

1201
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 1: at least on the defensive side of the ball. But um,

1202
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 1: there's no way, there's no way they're gonna fire him

1203
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 1: now at this season, you can't find a better replacement

1204
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 1: than Bill Belichick over all of his warts and all

1205
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 1: of his issues. Maybe loyalty, I think to coaching compadres

1206
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 1: is probably the biggest. It's almost not even worth discussing

1207
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 1: because it's not happening. The only way well because he

1208
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 1: thinks you wouldn't read it because we're broaching the topic

1209
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 1: that you know, Bill Belichick could lose his job, like

1210
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 1: why would we not read that? But to me, the

1211
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 1: only way he would lose his job is if he

1212
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: completely lost the locker room and there were It's like

1213
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 1: Josh mcdial's with the Raiders in year one. I mean,

1214
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 1: it's a mess. They can't win games. They blew three

1215
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 1: seventeen point leads. But unless there's a steady stream of

1216
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:44,439
Speaker 1: players going to Mark Davis telling them this guy can't coach,

1217
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 1: this guy has lost the locker room, this guy can't

1218
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 1: do it. Like, I don't think you're going to fire

1219
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 1: a guy in one year. Now, take that. With Bill

1220
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 1: Belichick and all that he's accomplished over the last twenty

1221
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 1: plus seasons, what would it take for him to lose

1222
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 1: a job. It's not going to be going nine and

1223
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 1: eight or eight nine, you know, and maybe missing the

1224
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 1: playoffs and having mac Jones take a step back in

1225
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 1: year two. It's gonna be the players going to this guy.

1226
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 1: He doesn't know what he's doing anymore. He's lost it,

1227
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 1: and then maybe the Craft family has to step back

1228
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 1: and look at it and figure out an alternative. I

1229
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 1: don't think there's any chance that he's going anywhere. I

1230
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 1: will say this though. The only person that has the

1231
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 1: power to get him to recognize the mistake of that

1232
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 1: he's made with the offensive coaching staff is mister Craft, right,

1233
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:34,919
Speaker 1: Like he's the only one that can go and say

1234
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 1: to Bill at the end of the season, I'm like,

1235
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tell you who to draft. I'm not

1236
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 1: gonna tell you who to sign in free agency, like

1237
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 1: you guys do your thing there. But I want an

1238
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:46,959
Speaker 1: offensive coach on the staff next year, like a real

1239
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 1: offensive coach on the staff. Heay, so now that I will,

1240
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 1: I'll broach that topic, okay, because I think he evans

1241
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:58,439
Speaker 1: exactly right. That's that's plausible. We're not in fantasy land

1242
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 1: now where Bill just gets fired because he goes nine

1243
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 1: to eight. We got to some changes. Now now you're

1244
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 1: you're you're approaching that scenario. How does Bill respond to that?

1245
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 1: That's a way that Bill might not be the coach

1246
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 1: next year because Bill might say, you know, you're not

1247
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 1: telling me how I'm going to structure my staff, you know,

1248
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 1: and Robert's saying, oh, no, I am. You know I'm

1249
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 1: the owner, you rent, I own. Like that's the difference.

1250
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 1: Let's probably connected two of how much you you put

1251
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 1: credence into those reports of like wanting the draft to

1252
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 1: change the process. I mean there's been some like rumors.

1253
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I know, just go back to this year,

1254
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 1: like you know, we haven't what a playoff game in

1255
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 1: three years. I just like all for all the draft

1256
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 1: has changed talk outside of maybe taking Mac in the

1257
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 1: first round, which you're still taking Nick Saban's quarterback. So

1258
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 1: I'm not really fully convinced that that's anybody else with you, Okay,

1259
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 1: But then this past year they go right back to

1260
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:58,439
Speaker 1: Cole Strange and that's a Belichick pick, like please, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Like theycrafts right exactly, So that's clearly a Bill pick. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And then I remember when we were out on the

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Speaker 1: Bill is selling you on the fact that you have

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Speaker 1: Because he was almost trying to like convince himself that

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Speaker 1: Just one more question and we'll take a quick break.

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Speaker 1: But um, just Matt from Son of Santan Valley, Arizona

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Speaker 1: the offensive corner? Could he be that guy? Does that

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Speaker 1: no fit? No? Schematically no. So he's a West Coast guy, right.

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Speaker 1: He comes from the Doug Peterson coaching tree. He did coach.

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Speaker 1: I looked this up because I've been getting this question

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Speaker 1: a lot. He did coach in some other systems so

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Speaker 1: Doug Peterson in Philadelphia in the West Coast system, so

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Speaker 1: they speak a different language. All right, Well, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: Now great moments in history. Eric and Paul show a

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Speaker 1: He's winning on both sides, Ladies and gentlemen, He's winning.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna win. And now you know, want to know

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Speaker 1: What do they know? What do they know? But I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna say nothing. Yeah, and he's done that plenty Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Patriots prevail Shocker twenty eight nineteen Patriots. My favorite part

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Speaker 1: of the freddisms when he when he gives picks on

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Speaker 1: games that there's some thought too, like that one. Right,

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Speaker 1: he's tortured for for a minute and then really you

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Speaker 1: go either way and then stage finds away for a

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Speaker 1: pretty good. Huh, pretty good? Read right there for the

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Speaker 1: stumble in the middle to read again in three two

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Speaker 1: and hi every Hey Pats fans, how are you doing

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Speaker 1: a solid? Well? Hey, that's better than I did in school,

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01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:06,680
Speaker 1: so I'll take it. So Matt, great, that was a

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01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:10,519
Speaker 1: great job today. Great. Great. On on Picks Thursday, we

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01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 1: have no Fred, but now I feel like Fred's here.

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01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:15,640
Speaker 1: It was a Fred flavor. This is your lock of

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01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:18,920
Speaker 1: the week, upset lock and a win by more. He

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01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:21,720
Speaker 1: took the favorite. Uh you could? You can probably put

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01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:24,160
Speaker 1: like three different clips of explaining the hook to him,

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01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 1: like what he still doesn't get you? Do you have

1493
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:30,639
Speaker 1: a like? Hear people say, like the hook? Yes, and

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01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 1: it's generally like you know, the three and a half

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01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:35,600
Speaker 1: or the six and a half seven and it, you know,

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01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 1: like any half he just considers a hook, you know,

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01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:41,439
Speaker 1: like if it's four and a half five and a half,

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01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:43,960
Speaker 1: it's not really a hook. But it's like on the

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01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:46,599
Speaker 1: field goal or the touchdown. You know, like you've heard

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01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:50,679
Speaker 1: people bad yes, stuff. It just can't can't seem to figure.

1501
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:54,960
Speaker 1: Sometimes I do get lost by the gambling lingo. But

1502
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 1: well that's because of Fred. But he's confused me. There

1503
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:01,720
Speaker 1: are probably things that you always thought were so, and

1504
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:03,800
Speaker 1: then Fred explains them in a way that they're not

1505
01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:06,920
Speaker 1: really in the same way. So I just say like that,

1506
01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:12,720
Speaker 1: oh well, just I feel like he's here. It's like

1507
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:15,200
Speaker 1: I know he's beautiful. He's a little girl in Dusseldorff

1508
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:19,240
Speaker 1: right now. Literally, well, uh, well, we've got to come

1509
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:21,599
Speaker 1: back from the break from Spi and fresnow coming in

1510
01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:23,720
Speaker 1: coming in hot on Evan, you know. And it got

1511
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:25,760
Speaker 1: a little it's great that there's another punching bag on

1512
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:28,760
Speaker 1: the show. Brewing rivalry took. I took my beatings for

1513
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 1: how many years. It's nice to have someone else. No,

1514
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:32,639
Speaker 1: I love it. And Spi is of course a long

1515
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:34,360
Speaker 1: time callers, so you know it's it's a it's a

1516
01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:36,360
Speaker 1: new new twist to the show. But let's get to

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01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:39,479
Speaker 1: this email. Uh spe writes, well, grinds my gears is

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01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:42,240
Speaker 1: the idea that Mac as a so called net neutral quarterback.

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01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:44,599
Speaker 1: We'll let Evan explain what that means would be good

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01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:46,800
Speaker 1: enough to nab a title if everything around him were

1521
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:49,600
Speaker 1: stable and competently composed and run at some point the

1522
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:52,880
Speaker 1: quarterback matters. Last week, the boys from Catch twenty two

1523
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:55,600
Speaker 1: were clear that they think we're in an era of

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01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:58,200
Speaker 1: a manager game manager QB, where you can build a

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01:15:58,200 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 1: team and plug in a Mac Jones and ride off

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01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:02,679
Speaker 1: into the sunset that may get you to the Okay Bowl?

1527
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 1: Is that one of the bulls that it's coming up?

1528
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:06,640
Speaker 1: But the history of the Super Bowl winning quarterbacks he

1529
01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:12,160
Speaker 1: is clear, still clear as crystal. You almost always really

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01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:15,160
Speaker 1: good or great quarterback fifty percent of the time. It

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01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:21,680
Speaker 1: works every time. Okay, So, first of all, Spee, I

1532
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:24,880
Speaker 1: love you, but I think we can move on from

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01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:27,519
Speaker 1: from this debate at some point. Second of all, the

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01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:30,439
Speaker 1: net neutral thing is totally barth sing all right, So

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01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:33,760
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna try to explain that but I

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01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:37,280
Speaker 1: think the overall point we were trying to make, or

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01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:39,559
Speaker 1: I was trying to make about this whole thing, and

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01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:41,719
Speaker 1: I kind of got on it a little bit yesterday

1539
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:44,759
Speaker 1: with you, Mike, is that I don't think mac Jones

1540
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 1: is that special, right, Like I don't think that he

1541
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:51,240
Speaker 1: is a a I said earlier, I don't think that

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01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:54,640
Speaker 1: he is a transcendent quarterback. So yes, for a quarterback

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01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 1: of his ability, at least currently, at least what we've

1544
01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:00,959
Speaker 1: seen so far out of twenty four game, a quarterback

1545
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:03,800
Speaker 1: of his current ability is going to need things to

1546
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 1: be pretty around him like that. That's just the best

1547
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 1: way that you can describe it. Is. He's going to

1548
01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:13,160
Speaker 1: need to have good receivers, and he's going to need

1549
01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:15,240
Speaker 1: to have good coaching, and he's gonna need to have

1550
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:21,320
Speaker 1: a pretty easy situation for him to be what people

1551
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 1: want him to be as a quarterback. And that doesn't

1552
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 1: necessarily mean that he's bad. It just means that he's

1553
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:29,760
Speaker 1: not Patrick Mahomes right. He's not going to put the

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01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:32,800
Speaker 1: team on his back and carry the team solely to

1555
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:34,920
Speaker 1: the Promised Land, like He's going to need a lot

1556
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:37,120
Speaker 1: of help around him in order to do that. At

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01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:39,680
Speaker 1: least at his current state. So I think that the

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01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 1: net neutral quarterback, and that whole idea stems from the

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01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:46,160
Speaker 1: fact of which one is easier to build. Is it

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01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:49,439
Speaker 1: easier to find Patrick Mahomes or is it easier to

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01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:54,439
Speaker 1: build a good team around a quarterback that's more average? Right?

1562
01:17:54,479 --> 01:17:56,840
Speaker 1: So is it easier to do it? I think the

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01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 1: easiest way that I can come up with is easier

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01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:02,080
Speaker 1: to do it the way the twenty nineteen San Francisco

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01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:04,000
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers did it. Or is it easier to

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01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:06,120
Speaker 1: do it the way the twenty nineteen Chiefs did it?

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01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:09,599
Speaker 1: So the forty nine Ers had Jimmy Garoppolo, who I

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01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:11,880
Speaker 1: think for Mac Jones is a nice comp is a

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01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:14,680
Speaker 1: player that has a similar skill set. So is the

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01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:17,920
Speaker 1: easier way to get George Kittle and Deebo Samuel and

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01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 1: a good offensive line and a good play caller and

1572
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:24,200
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan and carry the quarterback to a Super Bowl?

1573
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:28,439
Speaker 1: Or is it easier to find the transcendent QB? And

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01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:33,000
Speaker 1: my adage and Alex's adage has always been that it's

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01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:36,280
Speaker 1: probably at this stage easier to do the Niners thing

1576
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:40,639
Speaker 1: than it is to do the other thing, because good

1577
01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:44,759
Speaker 1: luck like good luck finding you know, it's basically catching

1578
01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:46,760
Speaker 1: lightning in a pan twice because he did it once

1579
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:49,280
Speaker 1: already with Brady, So now you're asking them to go

1580
01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:52,600
Speaker 1: out there and do it again. Six round Unicorn. We

1581
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:54,920
Speaker 1: just talked about it with Justin Herbert, like he's awesome,

1582
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:57,719
Speaker 1: He's a great physical marvel. They don't win very many

1583
01:18:57,720 --> 01:19:00,559
Speaker 1: games with him. They're not making the playoffs with like that.

1584
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:03,320
Speaker 1: So you can have all of the tools, you can

1585
01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:06,559
Speaker 1: have all of the talent in the world, but at

1586
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:10,400
Speaker 1: the end of the day, the situation matters, and Mac

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01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:13,519
Speaker 1: is right in that category with a nine percent of

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01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:16,720
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks in the league right now. Yeah, I would

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01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:21,719
Speaker 1: just add real quick that I think that I would

1590
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:26,920
Speaker 1: always push back on the the definitive. This is what

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01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:28,800
Speaker 1: you have to do, this is what you can't do,

1592
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:30,960
Speaker 1: this is what you need to do. I think there

1593
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:34,679
Speaker 1: are a lot of different boxes to fill in. There's

1594
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:37,519
Speaker 1: some stuff that I don't necessarily buy that Evan just said,

1595
01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:39,479
Speaker 1: into some stuff that I mean a thousand percent buy

1596
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:42,120
Speaker 1: that Evan just said. And there's a there's a lot

1597
01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:48,040
Speaker 1: of different ways. San Francisco is a good good example.

1598
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:51,160
Speaker 1: They did that. They built a Super Bowl caliber team

1599
01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:53,320
Speaker 1: and they got to the super Bowl, and it's impossible

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01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:56,680
Speaker 1: to sit here. I hate, like another felgrin madzism that

1601
01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:59,599
Speaker 1: I rail against and fight back against all the time.

1602
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:02,920
Speaker 1: I hate I'm a slave to the scoreboard, because if

1603
01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:04,960
Speaker 1: I'm a slave to the scoreboard, then what the hell

1604
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 1: do I need you for. I could just wait to

1605
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:10,599
Speaker 1: see who won the game, and I can realize what happened, right,

1606
01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:14,400
Speaker 1: So you can't argue with me that San Francisco wasn't

1607
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:17,599
Speaker 1: good enough with Jimmy Garoppolo, who I think is very

1608
01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:21,599
Speaker 1: average to win that Super Bowl. They're up ten points

1609
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:24,360
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter and they had a chance to

1610
01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:28,599
Speaker 1: win the game. Now they lost. So the scoreboard will

1611
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:31,920
Speaker 1: tell you you have to have X because the other

1612
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:35,439
Speaker 1: guy lost. But I think we all know this nuance

1613
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:37,479
Speaker 1: to everything that you look at. So that's the only

1614
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:40,600
Speaker 1: part I push back on. Yeah, do I think you

1615
01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 1: need to have a really good quarterback? Yeah? I do,

1616
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:46,200
Speaker 1: And I think if you don't, it's really hard to

1617
01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:49,120
Speaker 1: get what San Francisco got. I don't think that's easy

1618
01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 1: to do. Now. Evan could tell you, well, it's easier

1619
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:54,760
Speaker 1: to do that than get him the homes. He's probably right,

1620
01:20:55,160 --> 01:20:57,439
Speaker 1: He's probably right. But I think both of those things

1621
01:20:57,479 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 1: are really hard to do to build a team that's

1622
01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:03,920
Speaker 1: that good that they can overcome a so so quarterback.

1623
01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:07,240
Speaker 1: And by the way, Garoppolo that year wasn't so so,

1624
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:09,840
Speaker 1: he's so so. Now. I think there's a line, right,

1625
01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:12,439
Speaker 1: Like I think for the Rams, Jared Goff was below

1626
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:15,000
Speaker 1: the line, right, like Jared Goff was too. He was

1627
01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:18,479
Speaker 1: not good enough that to be competitive in big games.

1628
01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:21,160
Speaker 1: Well right, I would probably agree with that, but I

1629
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:23,920
Speaker 1: think the Cup injury killed them that year down stretch

1630
01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 1: because that was a pretty dynamic offense for most of

1631
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:30,519
Speaker 1: that it wasn't. But I think that the Rams recognize, Okay,

1632
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 1: Goff is like, that's the line, Like, we can't be

1633
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:36,280
Speaker 1: below this line, right. Jannian did the same thing with Jimmy,

1634
01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:39,679
Speaker 1: but I think with Shanahan. With Jimmy, it's Morris stems

1635
01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:45,080
Speaker 1: from Jimmy's long term outlook in terms of injury and durability.

1636
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:49,240
Speaker 1: Probably right, right, because I think with Jimmy again, they

1637
01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:51,960
Speaker 1: put Jimmy back into this offense or Trey Lance gets hurt.

1638
01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:56,400
Speaker 1: He's a top five quarterback in the league statistically, but well,

1639
01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:59,240
Speaker 1: exactly the game that's the point though, right he hasn't

1640
01:21:59,240 --> 01:22:01,760
Speaker 1: played all that well and they haven't played all that well,

1641
01:22:02,040 --> 01:22:04,920
Speaker 1: but they but they have their efficiency as an offense

1642
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:07,400
Speaker 1: right now is top five in the league. It's it's

1643
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:11,240
Speaker 1: one of those things that like breaks people like my mind,

1644
01:22:11,439 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 1: my brain, right because like my film brain tells me

1645
01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:16,880
Speaker 1: he's not very good, right, Like you watched him on

1646
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:20,680
Speaker 1: tape and just watch that, like just chucked up for

1647
01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:22,439
Speaker 1: grabs and a guy comes down with the ball, Like

1648
01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:24,439
Speaker 1: I just don't think they have. But then your nerd

1649
01:22:24,439 --> 01:22:26,960
Speaker 1: brain is like, oh wait, look at he's top five

1650
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:29,840
Speaker 1: in QBR, Like how is how is that possible? How

1651
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:33,559
Speaker 1: can a quarterback that every single film nut can kind

1652
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:37,200
Speaker 1: of rally to a point where they say, Jimmy Garoppolo

1653
01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:39,479
Speaker 1: ain't that good? But then every single time he plays

1654
01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:41,320
Speaker 1: for an extended period of time for the forty nine

1655
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:44,439
Speaker 1: ers there they have a great offense. Like I just

1656
01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:46,880
Speaker 1: that's that's the part that I think, like you have

1657
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:50,320
Speaker 1: problem with. But to go back to the quarterback thing,

1658
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:53,360
Speaker 1: my whole thing is going to continue to be the same,

1659
01:22:53,439 --> 01:22:56,080
Speaker 1: and that is I do not think that mac Jones

1660
01:22:56,160 --> 01:22:59,040
Speaker 1: is that great. So in order for the Patriots to

1661
01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:02,280
Speaker 1: win football game games with Mac Jones, the situation around

1662
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:04,720
Speaker 1: him is going to have to be good. That's the

1663
01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:08,599
Speaker 1: point I'm trying to make. Thank you speak. Let's talk

1664
01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:09,800
Speaker 1: back to the phones here. I got we got it.

1665
01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:11,639
Speaker 1: We've got a few games too after this, so let's

1666
01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:14,120
Speaker 1: talk Dan from Virginia and Michigan. Hey, Dan, how are

1667
01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:16,559
Speaker 1: you doing the games? Good? Mike, how are you doing?

1668
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:18,400
Speaker 1: You're doing a wonderful job today as the host. I

1669
01:23:18,479 --> 01:23:22,240
Speaker 1: appreciate that. Thank you. Firstly, I wanted to say thank

1670
01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:25,519
Speaker 1: you for the discussion yesterday that ensued from my question.

1671
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:27,559
Speaker 1: It seemed that Fred was getting a little flustered by

1672
01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:30,400
Speaker 1: the end of it, but I appreciated it because I'd

1673
01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:34,200
Speaker 1: heard what Fred mentioned that defensive coordinators no offense because

1674
01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:36,840
Speaker 1: they have to study it in order to defend against it.

1675
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:39,360
Speaker 1: But it seemed like the gap was bigger than that.

1676
01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:41,479
Speaker 1: So I was really glad to hear all of you,

1677
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:44,759
Speaker 1: all the different perspectives and information that came out yesterday.

1678
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:48,360
Speaker 1: But with it being the middle of the season and

1679
01:23:48,439 --> 01:23:53,160
Speaker 1: going into the buy, I got two questions, what percentage

1680
01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:55,600
Speaker 1: chance do you give of the Patriots making the playoffs?

1681
01:23:56,320 --> 01:24:00,320
Speaker 1: And if you're Bill Belichick, giving Matt Patricia his marching

1682
01:24:00,439 --> 01:24:04,400
Speaker 1: orders for the bye week. What three things are you

1683
01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:06,800
Speaker 1: giving him that you know he needs to figure out

1684
01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:12,960
Speaker 1: or answer? Or um boy on, gotcha? Thanks dan Um.

1685
01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:15,760
Speaker 1: You know I'm gonna jump in right now. I would say,

1686
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:17,439
Speaker 1: just on the playoff odds. I mean, I was in

1687
01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 1: my brain, I was saying forty percent chance that they

1688
01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:21,920
Speaker 1: make the plafs and every high And if I look

1689
01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:24,920
Speaker 1: at Football Outsiders, they gave him a forty three point

1690
01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:28,719
Speaker 1: seven chance. Right now, what does other um analytical sites

1691
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:31,880
Speaker 1: give that's not based in like Fox Barrow. Oh, I

1692
01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:35,559
Speaker 1: don't consult that one. Oh okay, but they're around the three.

1693
01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:37,080
Speaker 1: I'm with Eavan. That seems high to me. It does

1694
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:38,720
Speaker 1: seem high. But but I you know, I think there's

1695
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:41,200
Speaker 1: probably a sixty percent chance they're gonna to miss out.

1696
01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:43,040
Speaker 1: I think there's a better chance they do, but but

1697
01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:44,599
Speaker 1: I still think there's a pretty good chance. I would

1698
01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:47,720
Speaker 1: just want to point out too, in that vicinity, the

1699
01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:52,559
Speaker 1: Jets are at sixty nine percent, the Bengals are in fairness,

1700
01:24:52,640 --> 01:24:54,479
Speaker 1: and the Lack is at sixty one point five. So

1701
01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:56,800
Speaker 1: those are kind of the uh the bubble teams of

1702
01:24:56,840 --> 01:25:00,200
Speaker 1: the AFC obviously, not including Miami and you know those

1703
01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:02,160
Speaker 1: teams that are that are down and and I teas

1704
01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:05,599
Speaker 1: because I you know, that's what I do. UM. I

1705
01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:08,559
Speaker 1: think the problem sometimes with numbers is it's based strictly

1706
01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:14,439
Speaker 1: on what has happened. Like I'm I know, I'm still

1707
01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:16,679
Speaker 1: not believing in the Jets. I still don't think Zach

1708
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:19,719
Speaker 1: Wilson is like ready to win important games. I think

1709
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:22,880
Speaker 1: he's going to cost them. Um. But if you go

1710
01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:25,120
Speaker 1: off of what has happened already, the numbers will tell

1711
01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:27,960
Speaker 1: you that they've probably got it, Like the FBI Index

1712
01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:30,760
Speaker 1: tell they're they're gonna win this game and that game

1713
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:32,720
Speaker 1: in this game. I just don't think you can do that.

1714
01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 1: Whereas the Chargers have been sort of middling, but I

1715
01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:39,840
Speaker 1: think that they have, you know, more of an opportunity.

1716
01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:43,880
Speaker 1: Cincinnati would probably be my better example. You know, they're

1717
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:47,040
Speaker 1: they're middling and you know, looking like they're you know,

1718
01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:48,920
Speaker 1: stuck in neutral, but I think they have more of

1719
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:52,559
Speaker 1: an ability than the Jets would to put it together

1720
01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:54,680
Speaker 1: in the second half of the season and make a

1721
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:57,640
Speaker 1: playoff run. Yeah. Yeah. The other problem I have with

1722
01:25:57,760 --> 01:26:01,840
Speaker 1: the predictive stuff is like to the Patriots have by

1723
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:04,960
Speaker 1: FBI Football Power Index, they have the toughest remaining schedule

1724
01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:07,960
Speaker 1: football outsiders. I think it's like fourth or fifth toughest schedule.

1725
01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:10,879
Speaker 1: So the consensus among the nerds is that the Patriots

1726
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:13,559
Speaker 1: have one of the toughest schedules remaining in the NFL.

1727
01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:17,439
Speaker 1: They also play Buffalo twice, and they play Miami, two

1728
01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:20,800
Speaker 1: teams that the nerds absolutely love right now, right so

1729
01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:24,479
Speaker 1: like that it's it's nerd heaven and with those two teams.

1730
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:28,760
Speaker 1: So my point being is is that like just inherently

1731
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:30,680
Speaker 1: by playing in the AFC East right now, all of

1732
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:32,880
Speaker 1: a sudden, you look up, the AFC's got these wagons

1733
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:36,200
Speaker 1: in Miami and in Buffalo. They have three of their

1734
01:26:36,280 --> 01:26:38,960
Speaker 1: last eight games or against those two teams, so obviously

1735
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:41,559
Speaker 1: they're gonna have some it's gonna be skewed that the

1736
01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:43,559
Speaker 1: Patriots are gonna have a tough strainth the schedule, so

1737
01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:46,320
Speaker 1: it is tough. I just think that two games against Buffalo,

1738
01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:49,439
Speaker 1: in particular, who's like DV O A and all these

1739
01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:52,320
Speaker 1: like advanced metrics are just like off the charts for Buffalo.

1740
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:55,639
Speaker 1: It's obviously not not no one else plays Buffalo twice

1741
01:26:55,720 --> 01:26:58,880
Speaker 1: except the Patriots, right and you look, you know, and

1742
01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:03,599
Speaker 1: I saw some numbers like Baltimore as an example, has

1743
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:08,519
Speaker 1: one of the easiest schedules remaining, and they have like

1744
01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:13,639
Speaker 1: because they have I think they play in they play

1745
01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:18,439
Speaker 1: in the NFC South, which is a wretchedly bad division. Right,

1746
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:23,400
Speaker 1: They've already beaten Tampa at Tampa. Um, I think they

1747
01:27:23,439 --> 01:27:25,439
Speaker 1: have I think I want to say, they have Atlanta

1748
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:29,400
Speaker 1: and Carolina at home, you know, like that's what they

1749
01:27:29,439 --> 01:27:31,439
Speaker 1: have left in that division. Like they just beat the

1750
01:27:31,479 --> 01:27:35,360
Speaker 1: Saints right last week, so they you know, at Tampa

1751
01:27:35,439 --> 01:27:37,559
Speaker 1: at the Saints, those are the two tougher of the

1752
01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:40,000
Speaker 1: of those four games. So they have the two easy

1753
01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:43,000
Speaker 1: ones that really that should be cupcakes at home. That's

1754
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:46,439
Speaker 1: a big advantage, you know, to to fall back on. Well,

1755
01:27:46,479 --> 01:27:48,080
Speaker 1: speaking of games, I want to I want to do this.

1756
01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:50,920
Speaker 1: This game, um kind of fun. It's it's it's a

1757
01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:53,040
Speaker 1: silly game. Not kind of silly. You'll know it. Uh,

1758
01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:56,400
Speaker 1: it's coming in here from Tyler and Nadick. Um. So

1759
01:27:56,439 --> 01:27:59,519
Speaker 1: the rules are a clue is given that ties two

1760
01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:02,360
Speaker 1: names to gather such as here's an example, a Patriots

1761
01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:05,400
Speaker 1: practice squad quarterback that is also an adoption agent for

1762
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:11,960
Speaker 1: a problem Child. What Gilbert Garrett, Gilbert Godfrey, Oh my god,

1763
01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:15,479
Speaker 1: I don't even get it. Problem Child is a movie

1764
01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:18,160
Speaker 1: with Gilbert Godfrey. Problem Child. He was, all right, well,

1765
01:28:18,240 --> 01:28:21,760
Speaker 1: let's just try. I think you you might not get

1766
01:28:21,760 --> 01:28:24,479
Speaker 1: this one. There's only there's only four. Don't worry. Don't worry.

1767
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:27,679
Speaker 1: A tackle with the floor of a Pro Bowl guard.

1768
01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:30,200
Speaker 1: That is also a hit song on the Purple Rain

1769
01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:40,520
Speaker 1: album Isaiah Win hit on the Purple Rain Isaiah Windows Cry,

1770
01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:45,040
Speaker 1: all right, next one. Veteran Patriots pass catcher and former

1771
01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:48,120
Speaker 1: razorback that could turn on a jukebox by hitting it.

1772
01:28:51,360 --> 01:28:58,480
Speaker 1: These are all happy days, hey Hunter, Henry Winkler, Okay,

1773
01:28:59,320 --> 01:29:01,240
Speaker 1: what can We're not I'm not good at we got

1774
01:29:01,240 --> 01:29:04,719
Speaker 1: two more? Not good at these? All right. Evan's gonna

1775
01:29:04,720 --> 01:29:07,120
Speaker 1: get this one. I can feel it. The greatest Patriots

1776
01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:10,360
Speaker 1: linemen of all time, not Cold Strange that moonlights as

1777
01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:15,720
Speaker 1: Miley Cyrus's alter ego. John Hannah Montana, I knew it.

1778
01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:17,479
Speaker 1: He got one, he got one, all right. Last one, Paul,

1779
01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:20,479
Speaker 1: This one's for you, A pioneer on the electric guitar

1780
01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:23,799
Speaker 1: that We're shiny shirts and coke spoons and slam sandwiches

1781
01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:31,559
Speaker 1: on the tables. All right, let's break that out with.

1782
01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:35,120
Speaker 1: I appreciate the effort that just like that's the cat

1783
01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:38,240
Speaker 1: when when when those come up on like Jeopardy, I

1784
01:29:38,360 --> 01:29:41,360
Speaker 1: just I just passed like I don't I did do it.

1785
01:29:41,400 --> 01:29:43,840
Speaker 1: That had to have kicked him time he did. I mean,

1786
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:45,599
Speaker 1: I thought it was excellent. I don't know why why

1787
01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:47,880
Speaker 1: it went over like we have another balloon here. No,

1788
01:29:47,960 --> 01:29:49,240
Speaker 1: I was gonna do one of my own games. But

1789
01:29:49,240 --> 01:29:50,880
Speaker 1: we'll do that in a second. I'm gonna I'm gonna

1790
01:29:50,960 --> 01:29:52,920
Speaker 1: make an executive decision here. We're not gonna quite hurry

1791
01:29:52,920 --> 01:29:54,240
Speaker 1: as much on the picks. There's only three of us,

1792
01:29:54,240 --> 01:29:56,120
Speaker 1: were all pretty quick. We all understand side the fact

1793
01:29:56,160 --> 01:29:58,720
Speaker 1: that we don't need to hurry. Yeah, so we'll do

1794
01:29:58,720 --> 01:30:00,680
Speaker 1: another ten ten minutes or so. But let's take a

1795
01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:06,000
Speaker 1: couple of calls here, Mark from Bolton, Hey, Mark has going, Hey, great, Um,

1796
01:30:06,439 --> 01:30:08,920
Speaker 1: a couple of things. I'm the guy that called this

1797
01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:14,600
Speaker 1: summer and made and made the contention that um Remandre

1798
01:30:14,720 --> 01:30:17,920
Speaker 1: Stevenson is the most complete three down back drafted by

1799
01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:21,439
Speaker 1: the pat since ninth since Curtis Martin in nineteen ninety five.

1800
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:25,559
Speaker 1: I remember that, I remember you calling saying that and

1801
01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:29,000
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. Yeah, So anyway, it was all fine

1802
01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:31,600
Speaker 1: to kind of incomplete. Everybody thought it was interesting, but

1803
01:30:31,760 --> 01:30:34,559
Speaker 1: there's sort of nobody want to, you know, make us,

1804
01:30:34,680 --> 01:30:37,600
Speaker 1: make us a bet on that. But either way, what

1805
01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:42,200
Speaker 1: I really call about is another bye week conversation is

1806
01:30:42,320 --> 01:30:44,760
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody's gonna get fired, you know, but

1807
01:30:44,840 --> 01:30:48,920
Speaker 1: if phill is really honest with himself in his self scouting,

1808
01:30:49,920 --> 01:30:53,000
Speaker 1: what he would do would both Patricias solely to the

1809
01:30:53,080 --> 01:30:57,519
Speaker 1: offensive line to concentrate it, get judged back on special

1810
01:30:57,600 --> 01:31:00,719
Speaker 1: teams and give him accord of throw him a bone

1811
01:31:00,760 --> 01:31:06,080
Speaker 1: and have him concentrate on getting Jake Bailey straightened out.

1812
01:31:06,320 --> 01:31:08,960
Speaker 1: And Bill called the plays like Andy Reid. I mean,

1813
01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:11,280
Speaker 1: that's that's the whole those of my two things away

1814
01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:13,840
Speaker 1: in on Okay, So thanks Mark. Aside from all the

1815
01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:16,120
Speaker 1: other moving around of the coaching staff, which I think

1816
01:31:16,200 --> 01:31:20,200
Speaker 1: is not necessary at this point in the season, Bill

1817
01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:23,479
Speaker 1: calling plays is an interesting point to bring up now.

1818
01:31:23,880 --> 01:31:25,800
Speaker 1: To me, I think that there's a bigger issue with

1819
01:31:25,880 --> 01:31:30,080
Speaker 1: play design than actual play sequencing. So I'm not sure

1820
01:31:30,200 --> 01:31:33,719
Speaker 1: that like changing the play caller is gonna solve anything,

1821
01:31:33,720 --> 01:31:36,320
Speaker 1: because I don't necessarily think it's like they come their

1822
01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:39,439
Speaker 1: game plan and their their script is bad, and it

1823
01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:42,960
Speaker 1: just whatever. I just think their play designs are bad.

1824
01:31:43,439 --> 01:31:46,160
Speaker 1: So I don't know if that really changed as much,

1825
01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:50,200
Speaker 1: but that was sort of the feeling coming into the

1826
01:31:50,240 --> 01:31:53,360
Speaker 1: season was that if it gets bad, then Bill will

1827
01:31:53,400 --> 01:31:55,200
Speaker 1: just do it right. So maybe we are at the

1828
01:31:55,200 --> 01:31:57,080
Speaker 1: point where Bill just does it. That was the exact

1829
01:31:57,120 --> 01:31:58,920
Speaker 1: question I was I was about to bring up to you,

1830
01:31:59,080 --> 01:32:01,240
Speaker 1: was just that, like, I think the play calling is

1831
01:32:01,240 --> 01:32:03,360
Speaker 1: the actual problem, because it seems like the play calling,

1832
01:32:03,400 --> 01:32:05,479
Speaker 1: like any one of those guys could probably do it

1833
01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:07,240
Speaker 1: and it'd probably be the same as it is as

1834
01:32:07,240 --> 01:32:09,439
Speaker 1: whoever's calling the place right now. Like to your point,

1835
01:32:09,479 --> 01:32:12,640
Speaker 1: I feel like it's the design. It's the overall coordination,

1836
01:32:12,760 --> 01:32:15,280
Speaker 1: not necessarily like oh, you called the wrong play at

1837
01:32:15,320 --> 01:32:17,439
Speaker 1: the wrong time, Matt. Like I think that they're all

1838
01:32:17,479 --> 01:32:19,640
Speaker 1: on board with what plays are on the sheet, what

1839
01:32:19,760 --> 01:32:22,000
Speaker 1: you know, how they want to do it. I don't know,

1840
01:32:22,040 --> 01:32:24,800
Speaker 1: that's I just think the play caller word gets a

1841
01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:26,680
Speaker 1: little bit too much. I wish I wish that they

1842
01:32:26,720 --> 01:32:29,160
Speaker 1: had a little bit better sequencing sometimes to like build

1843
01:32:29,240 --> 01:32:33,760
Speaker 1: up to stuff right, like you know, whatever the case

1844
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:36,120
Speaker 1: may be. But I think the biggest problem with the

1845
01:32:36,160 --> 01:32:38,600
Speaker 1: play with like the play Action game for example, is

1846
01:32:38,600 --> 01:32:41,880
Speaker 1: that like there's no run action in their play action,

1847
01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:45,160
Speaker 1: Like there's no pulling guard, there's no like hard bootleg,

1848
01:32:45,520 --> 01:32:48,200
Speaker 1: there's no like lead like the full back like Paul

1849
01:32:48,320 --> 01:32:50,840
Speaker 1: was talking about earlier, Like there's no eye candy for

1850
01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:53,080
Speaker 1: the defense to be like, oh you know, run key,

1851
01:32:53,160 --> 01:32:55,720
Speaker 1: run key, it's run and now it's playing like there

1852
01:32:55,840 --> 01:32:58,599
Speaker 1: is none of that. So that's design. It's not about

1853
01:32:58,640 --> 01:33:03,720
Speaker 1: like actual sequencing of the plays together. It's designed. And

1854
01:33:03,760 --> 01:33:05,919
Speaker 1: I would also look at like their red zone issues.

1855
01:33:06,479 --> 01:33:08,960
Speaker 1: The reason why in my mind, other than the fact

1856
01:33:08,960 --> 01:33:11,519
Speaker 1: that they they're not running the ball as well as

1857
01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:13,759
Speaker 1: you would like inside the ten yard line, is there's

1858
01:33:13,800 --> 01:33:16,760
Speaker 1: no horizontal stretch the defense in the red zone. There's

1859
01:33:16,800 --> 01:33:21,360
Speaker 1: no motion, there's no there's no nothing using the width

1860
01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:23,679
Speaker 1: of the field. And if you're not losing the width

1861
01:33:23,680 --> 01:33:25,599
Speaker 1: of the field from inside the twenty yard line, there

1862
01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:30,320
Speaker 1: is no vertical element to the field. So and to me,

1863
01:33:30,439 --> 01:33:33,200
Speaker 1: it's just like these are all play design issues, like

1864
01:33:33,240 --> 01:33:35,080
Speaker 1: none of this is about like the sequencing of the

1865
01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:37,880
Speaker 1: plays together. Let's go to any in Vegas another call,

1866
01:33:37,960 --> 01:33:45,280
Speaker 1: Hey Vinny good, good, how are you. I'm doing pretty good. Hey,

1867
01:33:45,439 --> 01:33:48,720
Speaker 1: I want to actually, uh, thank you guys, and I'll

1868
01:33:48,720 --> 01:33:51,120
Speaker 1: tell you about why I'm I'm not just a lame

1869
01:33:52,520 --> 01:33:56,439
Speaker 1: football fan, right. I have no idea what plays are

1870
01:33:56,439 --> 01:33:58,559
Speaker 1: supposed to be made, how they're you know everything you're

1871
01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:01,680
Speaker 1: talking about sequencing and all that. So but when I

1872
01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:04,080
Speaker 1: look at the games, it just doesn't look right. You know,

1873
01:34:04,120 --> 01:34:08,719
Speaker 1: everything is just a mess. Every every every play is hard.

1874
01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:11,360
Speaker 1: You know, it's difficult to get the ball out. And

1875
01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:15,280
Speaker 1: you guys have always been very objective when you talk

1876
01:34:15,360 --> 01:34:18,800
Speaker 1: about you know, the team, right, you don't have a bias,

1877
01:34:18,840 --> 01:34:22,000
Speaker 1: You're not you know, you didn't get this information from

1878
01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:24,320
Speaker 1: a player or from a coach, right, And so when

1879
01:34:24,360 --> 01:34:26,960
Speaker 1: you talk about what you see, it's just about what

1880
01:34:27,040 --> 01:34:29,800
Speaker 1: you see. Now, could it be wrong and maybe right,

1881
01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:32,640
Speaker 1: but you're being objective. So I really appreciate that. And

1882
01:34:32,920 --> 01:34:37,679
Speaker 1: there's the reason why since I first you know, found

1883
01:34:37,680 --> 01:34:40,639
Speaker 1: you guys, you know, years ago, ten twelve years ago,

1884
01:34:40,680 --> 01:34:42,920
Speaker 1: I've been I've been listening faithfully, right because I can.

1885
01:34:43,360 --> 01:34:48,360
Speaker 1: I know, I can get objective criticism for praise of

1886
01:34:48,439 --> 01:34:50,240
Speaker 1: the team. But I'm having to worry about you know,

1887
01:34:50,240 --> 01:34:53,920
Speaker 1: as they're sitting me at a bunch of craps. I

1888
01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:58,080
Speaker 1: do have a question for you guys. And because of

1889
01:34:58,120 --> 01:35:01,439
Speaker 1: the issues with Mac and you know, you've made it

1890
01:35:01,520 --> 01:35:04,920
Speaker 1: very clear that he needs everything to be perfect or

1891
01:35:05,040 --> 01:35:06,760
Speaker 1: things to work out, or for him to be a

1892
01:35:07,439 --> 01:35:11,880
Speaker 1: Bob A Ridge, Um, quarterback? Are we looking I guess

1893
01:35:11,880 --> 01:35:14,160
Speaker 1: in the draft that we're gonna be looking at a

1894
01:35:14,479 --> 01:35:16,519
Speaker 1: and there might be a lot early, but we're gonna

1895
01:35:16,520 --> 01:35:19,599
Speaker 1: be looking at a left bat ball or you know, linemen.

1896
01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:25,559
Speaker 1: Because it seems like that's not gonna get Do we

1897
01:35:25,600 --> 01:35:27,840
Speaker 1: lose them? I think we might have lost it, But

1898
01:35:27,880 --> 01:35:29,960
Speaker 1: thank you, Benny, I think we've got the point. Um.

1899
01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:33,160
Speaker 1: But I well, are we looking in the draft to

1900
01:35:33,479 --> 01:35:35,880
Speaker 1: draft in the quarterback or like that's that's the point.

1901
01:35:35,880 --> 01:35:38,400
Speaker 1: We didn't get it what the call was. But I say, now,

1902
01:35:40,680 --> 01:35:42,439
Speaker 1: I come back to what I said yesterday about the

1903
01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:45,839
Speaker 1: quarterback in the draft. Like CRS drafts going number one overall,

1904
01:35:46,320 --> 01:35:49,360
Speaker 1: Bryce Young's probably going number two overall. So like you're

1905
01:35:49,400 --> 01:35:53,080
Speaker 1: picking eighteenth, you're not you're not getting either one of them.

1906
01:35:53,160 --> 01:35:55,320
Speaker 1: So like you know, you're not getting a quarterback in

1907
01:35:55,320 --> 01:35:59,400
Speaker 1: the draft. Like that's the whole thing about you know, well,

1908
01:35:59,400 --> 01:36:04,120
Speaker 1: shouldn't we strive for better than than Spee's net neutral right, Well, yeah,

1909
01:36:04,160 --> 01:36:07,360
Speaker 1: but where are you gonna find it? Yeah, and instead

1910
01:36:07,400 --> 01:36:10,639
Speaker 1: go for guys that can make a non net neutral impact,

1911
01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:14,400
Speaker 1: maybe a tackle, maybe at linebacker, some of those spots. Um,

1912
01:36:14,439 --> 01:36:16,000
Speaker 1: all right, I want to get to my little thing

1913
01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:18,720
Speaker 1: real quick. I thought we would a little struggling, and

1914
01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:21,240
Speaker 1: I want to talk about it, Paul Uh. I thought

1915
01:36:21,280 --> 01:36:23,040
Speaker 1: we'd have, you know, time to kill. I'd be drowning.

1916
01:36:23,080 --> 01:36:24,800
Speaker 1: But you know, it's been a great show. We've talked

1917
01:36:24,800 --> 01:36:26,400
Speaker 1: a lot of football. But um, I just want to

1918
01:36:26,439 --> 01:36:28,240
Speaker 1: take a quick look ahead, um to some of the

1919
01:36:28,280 --> 01:36:30,800
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three free agents, guys that are you know,

1920
01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:33,360
Speaker 1: do for deals, guys that are coming up, and um,

1921
01:36:33,439 --> 01:36:34,640
Speaker 1: you know, my version of the game will do it

1922
01:36:34,680 --> 01:36:36,240
Speaker 1: kind of quick because we do we kind of do

1923
01:36:36,280 --> 01:36:38,240
Speaker 1: have to hurry a little bit at this point. Um

1924
01:36:38,439 --> 01:36:40,320
Speaker 1: is just should they will they? Should they resign them?

1925
01:36:40,360 --> 01:36:43,080
Speaker 1: Will they resign them? Um? And I'm going to start

1926
01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:44,800
Speaker 1: at the top with I think the guy that you

1927
01:36:44,800 --> 01:36:47,760
Speaker 1: know is probably the biggest question mark, and certainly he's

1928
01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:49,960
Speaker 1: had a great year and a great start to his career,

1929
01:36:50,040 --> 01:36:52,960
Speaker 1: Jacobe Myers. So I put, let's start with him. Guys,

1930
01:36:53,360 --> 01:36:55,000
Speaker 1: what do you think? How are we feeling about the

1931
01:36:55,080 --> 01:36:58,000
Speaker 1: chances that Jacobe Myers is going to stick around? Yeah,

1932
01:36:59,479 --> 01:37:01,280
Speaker 1: I mean I think that he's a guy that I

1933
01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:04,320
Speaker 1: think I've said my piece on this. I would strongly

1934
01:37:04,520 --> 01:37:08,360
Speaker 1: want him back. I think it's fifty fifty. I'm not

1935
01:37:08,360 --> 01:37:10,400
Speaker 1: sure he'll be back. Yeah, I think he's going to

1936
01:37:10,439 --> 01:37:13,880
Speaker 1: be in line to get a pretty good payday. You know.

1937
01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:16,400
Speaker 1: I saw someone wrote into me yesterday, I think and

1938
01:37:16,840 --> 01:37:20,639
Speaker 1: had Christian Kirk's contract. He's not that kind of player.

1939
01:37:20,920 --> 01:37:22,720
Speaker 1: Like I know, they have both slot receivers, but they're

1940
01:37:22,760 --> 01:37:25,280
Speaker 1: not the same kind of slot receiver. Christian Kirk is

1941
01:37:25,320 --> 01:37:30,040
Speaker 1: far more explosive than Jacoby Myers. But if you Jacoby

1942
01:37:30,040 --> 01:37:33,000
Speaker 1: Myers and his agent, are you looking at and say, well,

1943
01:37:33,040 --> 01:37:36,400
Speaker 1: you know, I catch eighty passes a year, and if

1944
01:37:36,479 --> 01:37:38,519
Speaker 1: that's what this guy got, I'm the same age, why

1945
01:37:38,520 --> 01:37:40,720
Speaker 1: shouldn't I get it? So I don't think you'd be

1946
01:37:40,720 --> 01:37:42,640
Speaker 1: wrong to be looking for that kind of money. I

1947
01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:44,479
Speaker 1: just don't see him getting it from the Patriots. I

1948
01:37:44,479 --> 01:37:48,799
Speaker 1: hope Jacoby's an agent steers him in the proper direction,

1949
01:37:49,240 --> 01:37:51,679
Speaker 1: because I do think that there's a very good chance

1950
01:37:51,680 --> 01:37:55,719
Speaker 1: that they overplay their hand in free agency because teams

1951
01:37:55,840 --> 01:37:58,360
Speaker 1: look at guys like Jakobe Myers and they go back

1952
01:37:58,360 --> 01:38:01,320
Speaker 1: to their draft profiles of in terms of ceiling, right, like,

1953
01:38:01,360 --> 01:38:05,280
Speaker 1: if we signed this guy, he's ran a four like

1954
01:38:05,439 --> 01:38:07,320
Speaker 1: I think it's like a four six four or something

1955
01:38:07,360 --> 01:38:09,840
Speaker 1: like that coming out of NC State. And he's not

1956
01:38:09,880 --> 01:38:14,759
Speaker 1: an explosive athlete, right, He's not exceptionally gifted down the field.

1957
01:38:15,160 --> 01:38:19,160
Speaker 1: So like what New England got the most out of him?

1958
01:38:19,479 --> 01:38:21,960
Speaker 1: And if you're looking at giving him eighteen million dollars

1959
01:38:22,040 --> 01:38:24,880
Speaker 1: a year, then you think that there's another level that

1960
01:38:24,920 --> 01:38:26,599
Speaker 1: you can get out of that player. The other thing

1961
01:38:26,600 --> 01:38:29,679
Speaker 1: I would push back quickly, just on Christian Kirk. That

1962
01:38:29,800 --> 01:38:33,679
Speaker 1: deal broke everybody's minds like that. Everyone in the league

1963
01:38:33,720 --> 01:38:35,599
Speaker 1: and out of the league were like, what the heck

1964
01:38:35,640 --> 01:38:38,360
Speaker 1: are the Jaguars doing. So I don't think that that's

1965
01:38:38,360 --> 01:38:40,439
Speaker 1: really a deal that's going to end up holding out

1966
01:38:41,160 --> 01:38:44,080
Speaker 1: as the years go here because that the Jaguars were

1967
01:38:44,160 --> 01:38:46,439
Speaker 1: kind of on their own island by giving Christian Kirk

1968
01:38:46,520 --> 01:38:49,200
Speaker 1: that contract. Just one more point I'd make on Myers

1969
01:38:49,320 --> 01:38:51,479
Speaker 1: is just you know, all this stuff about making mac happy.

1970
01:38:51,560 --> 01:38:53,519
Speaker 1: I mean, he's the one guy he trusts right now

1971
01:38:53,560 --> 01:38:56,000
Speaker 1: to let that guy walk. I wonder if if you know,

1972
01:38:56,000 --> 01:38:58,479
Speaker 1: if you're trying to get Mac on board. And that's

1973
01:38:58,479 --> 01:39:00,600
Speaker 1: why I think that's why I think he kind of

1974
01:39:00,680 --> 01:39:02,840
Speaker 1: he does and have a good chance of coming back.

1975
01:39:02,960 --> 01:39:05,360
Speaker 1: Is because one, I don't think that the money that

1976
01:39:05,439 --> 01:39:07,680
Speaker 1: he wants or necessarily thinks he's gonna get is going

1977
01:39:07,720 --> 01:39:10,479
Speaker 1: to be there on the free agency market. And I

1978
01:39:10,520 --> 01:39:13,200
Speaker 1: do think that they'll prioritize him enough that if it

1979
01:39:13,360 --> 01:39:16,040
Speaker 1: is only eleven million or twelve million dollars a year,

1980
01:39:16,120 --> 01:39:18,759
Speaker 1: then they'll then they will do it. Brought Jonathan Jones.

1981
01:39:20,360 --> 01:39:23,960
Speaker 1: What is he making right now? He's signed that three

1982
01:39:24,040 --> 01:39:25,920
Speaker 1: year deal right the last year of a three year

1983
01:39:25,920 --> 01:39:27,800
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what the number is off it's it's

1984
01:39:27,880 --> 01:39:30,880
Speaker 1: pretty high. I think it's like nine or ten, right, yeah,

1985
01:39:31,200 --> 01:39:33,360
Speaker 1: but it was it was. It's been a really good

1986
01:39:33,400 --> 01:39:38,960
Speaker 1: deal on the whole. But it goes up. Need more money.

1987
01:39:39,560 --> 01:39:43,040
Speaker 1: He's me thirty, he's almost thirty. Yeah, but he's played well, yeah,

1988
01:39:43,080 --> 01:39:45,519
Speaker 1: so I think the number goes up. He's another one,

1989
01:39:45,680 --> 01:39:47,559
Speaker 1: tough one. He's been really I think he's another one

1990
01:39:47,600 --> 01:39:51,479
Speaker 1: that the whole system thing help helps the Patriots because

1991
01:39:51,640 --> 01:39:53,400
Speaker 1: He's just a slot receiver in another system. Is he

1992
01:39:53,400 --> 01:39:55,519
Speaker 1: really announced that corner for other teams. I just also

1993
01:39:55,560 --> 01:39:57,559
Speaker 1: think that the way that they coach up corners here

1994
01:39:57,720 --> 01:40:00,559
Speaker 1: is just different. Then that is one are you know,

1995
01:40:00,600 --> 01:40:05,560
Speaker 1: we criticize the development, right, that's one spot that young corners,

1996
01:40:06,120 --> 01:40:08,760
Speaker 1: and it's funny not the ones they draft necessarily, but

1997
01:40:08,800 --> 01:40:11,800
Speaker 1: the ones that are undrafted they develop and they make

1998
01:40:11,840 --> 01:40:14,639
Speaker 1: good players out of laundry list of them. I think

1999
01:40:14,640 --> 01:40:19,760
Speaker 1: that there's a growing respect around the league of how

2000
01:40:19,800 --> 01:40:23,040
Speaker 1: good the Patriots are coaching the secondary. And I don't

2001
01:40:23,040 --> 01:40:25,479
Speaker 1: think everybody thinks that they can just pluck Jonathan Jones

2002
01:40:25,479 --> 01:40:27,639
Speaker 1: out of the Patriots system and get the same production

2003
01:40:27,680 --> 01:40:30,519
Speaker 1: out of him. I mean, and I know he's not

2004
01:40:30,560 --> 01:40:32,760
Speaker 1: painting a good picture of free agency. Hopefully the other

2005
01:40:32,800 --> 01:40:35,240
Speaker 1: teams won't interest, won't really value the free agents, and

2006
01:40:35,280 --> 01:40:37,120
Speaker 1: they can come back. How about Damien Harris, I think

2007
01:40:37,120 --> 01:40:39,559
Speaker 1: we probably I probably feel he's been here, gonna walk,

2008
01:40:39,600 --> 01:40:42,040
Speaker 1: and they've got some guys through replace behind him. Isaiah

2009
01:40:42,040 --> 01:40:46,439
Speaker 1: Wynn probably not going to be back, Nelson Agalore same,

2010
01:40:46,960 --> 01:40:49,679
Speaker 1: probably not going to be back. You know, some interesting

2011
01:40:49,680 --> 01:40:52,120
Speaker 1: guys the one and in the defense that have come

2012
01:40:52,160 --> 01:40:53,880
Speaker 1: in this year, and I'll kind of group them together

2013
01:40:53,960 --> 01:40:57,000
Speaker 1: just so we can get through these. But Gilani, Tavai,

2014
01:40:57,640 --> 01:41:01,400
Speaker 1: Mac Wilson, Ray Kua McMillan, and Jibril Peppers four guys

2015
01:41:01,400 --> 01:41:03,320
Speaker 1: that have kind of, you know, given you some different options.

2016
01:41:03,439 --> 01:41:05,560
Speaker 1: I think Tavia will be back. He sounds like that

2017
01:41:05,760 --> 01:41:09,160
Speaker 1: kind of guy. The other three will probably go. Peppers

2018
01:41:09,240 --> 01:41:13,000
Speaker 1: has had a market at the deadline, so there's gonna

2019
01:41:13,040 --> 01:41:14,519
Speaker 1: be teams that are going to look at him as

2020
01:41:14,560 --> 01:41:17,800
Speaker 1: somebody that can play more of like a startering role

2021
01:41:18,040 --> 01:41:21,040
Speaker 1: at safety versus being like a third or four safety here.

2022
01:41:21,280 --> 01:41:23,320
Speaker 1: So if I was him, I'd want to play more.

2023
01:41:23,400 --> 01:41:25,920
Speaker 1: And he probably took a one year deal, you know

2024
01:41:25,960 --> 01:41:28,599
Speaker 1: when he did, saying I'll prove to everybody I'm healthy,

2025
01:41:28,640 --> 01:41:30,360
Speaker 1: i can play, and I'm back, and then he'll go

2026
01:41:30,400 --> 01:41:32,960
Speaker 1: out and do the Evan thing. Last one, though, is

2027
01:41:32,960 --> 01:41:35,040
Speaker 1: is DMC. Do you think any chance maybe they say, hey,

2028
01:41:35,120 --> 01:41:37,679
Speaker 1: let's let's make an effort to resign Peppers and finally

2029
01:41:37,720 --> 01:41:41,040
Speaker 1: move on from according. I know I've missed on this

2030
01:41:41,080 --> 01:41:42,880
Speaker 1: so many times. I thought the last year was the

2031
01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:45,360
Speaker 1: last year, like three years in a row, so I

2032
01:41:45,439 --> 01:41:47,360
Speaker 1: won't rule it out. I think this is it for him,

2033
01:41:47,400 --> 01:41:49,240
Speaker 1: But I won't rule it out. They've kicked the can

2034
01:41:49,280 --> 01:41:52,200
Speaker 1: down the road on free safety for yeah a while.

2035
01:41:52,320 --> 01:41:54,360
Speaker 1: They brought in all the Patrick Chung replacements that they

2036
01:41:54,400 --> 01:41:57,799
Speaker 1: could ever possibly need, but that middle of the field

2037
01:41:57,960 --> 01:42:01,920
Speaker 1: range safety they Evan's it like, they don't have anybody

2038
01:42:01,920 --> 01:42:05,840
Speaker 1: else on the roster, So if he's gone, then that

2039
01:42:06,120 --> 01:42:08,639
Speaker 1: becomes a big priority because you can't run their coverage

2040
01:42:08,640 --> 01:42:11,439
Speaker 1: system without And that's what he's playing better this year too,

2041
01:42:11,439 --> 01:42:13,280
Speaker 1: though I think that last year that's just going to

2042
01:42:13,360 --> 01:42:15,280
Speaker 1: feed into my my last point here. Um, you know,

2043
01:42:15,280 --> 01:42:17,320
Speaker 1: Matt Bowen posted a bunch of you know what coverage

2044
01:42:17,320 --> 01:42:19,000
Speaker 1: his teams are playing. I mean, the Patriots are still

2045
01:42:19,000 --> 01:42:22,360
Speaker 1: second in the league and cover one man free forty

2046
01:42:22,400 --> 01:42:24,880
Speaker 1: three point seven percent. Um, you know cover two. We

2047
01:42:24,920 --> 01:42:26,560
Speaker 1: talked a little bit this week about the rage of

2048
01:42:26,600 --> 01:42:29,160
Speaker 1: Cover two taking away their thirty first in the league

2049
01:42:29,560 --> 01:42:31,479
Speaker 1: with twelve point four. It's, you know, just interesting, is

2050
01:42:31,479 --> 01:42:34,960
Speaker 1: Evan pointed out? Who's that one? McCardy usually right? I mean,

2051
01:42:35,000 --> 01:42:36,599
Speaker 1: I know they move them around, but that's it. Like

2052
01:42:37,000 --> 01:42:40,920
Speaker 1: I would really be curious, um, eight weeks from now

2053
01:42:41,200 --> 01:42:44,080
Speaker 1: what those numbers look like, because I'll bet they'll change. Yeah,

2054
01:42:44,120 --> 01:42:47,040
Speaker 1: as they as they evolve, well well as they plague

2055
01:42:47,040 --> 01:42:49,960
Speaker 1: passing off which they haven't really seen. That's a good point.

2056
01:42:50,000 --> 01:42:51,880
Speaker 1: That's a good point. I like it. And with that,

2057
01:42:51,960 --> 01:42:58,000
Speaker 1: Matt oh, it's it's amazing. Right. Every week it takes

2058
01:42:58,000 --> 01:43:00,760
Speaker 1: you by surprise if we didn't hurry, But Paul, tell

2059
01:43:00,840 --> 01:43:06,000
Speaker 1: us what happened last week? All right? So last week

2060
01:43:07,200 --> 01:43:10,280
Speaker 1: here all right about the same. But there's always some

2061
01:43:10,479 --> 01:43:17,000
Speaker 1: that stand out amongst the rest. Evan Mike nine and four,

2062
01:43:18,720 --> 01:43:23,400
Speaker 1: Paul and Fred eight and five, crappy, crappy week from

2063
01:43:23,439 --> 01:43:30,360
Speaker 1: Paul with the spread, with the spread Evan, Paul and

2064
01:43:30,560 --> 01:43:34,400
Speaker 1: Fred seven five and one, Mike six six and one.

2065
01:43:34,439 --> 01:43:37,400
Speaker 1: Look at the boss though, Fred A good week. Crappy. Yeah,

2066
01:43:37,479 --> 01:43:40,760
Speaker 1: anytime I think it's not here, anytime you're with Fred, crappy.

2067
01:43:40,920 --> 01:43:44,280
Speaker 1: It's not becoming of the Picks leader that I am.

2068
01:43:45,160 --> 01:43:49,160
Speaker 1: So uh. The numbers for the season, I remain on

2069
01:43:49,200 --> 01:43:52,000
Speaker 1: top eighty four fifty one and one, Mike nipping at

2070
01:43:52,000 --> 01:43:55,439
Speaker 1: my heels eighty two fifty three and one, and Fred

2071
01:43:55,880 --> 01:44:00,439
Speaker 1: seventy four sixty one and one. Evan continue used to

2072
01:44:00,439 --> 01:44:02,960
Speaker 1: set the pace and I am nothing if not fair.

2073
01:44:03,040 --> 01:44:05,519
Speaker 1: As you know fifty seven and thirty one, and you

2074
01:44:05,600 --> 01:44:08,320
Speaker 1: might say, well, is that good? Yes, that's a little

2075
01:44:08,360 --> 01:44:12,000
Speaker 1: bit better than me sixty six forty eight percentage to

2076
01:44:12,040 --> 01:44:15,080
Speaker 1: six twenty one. So Evan has a better winning percentage

2077
01:44:15,080 --> 01:44:17,240
Speaker 1: than I do. It's how you feel about percentage, about

2078
01:44:17,240 --> 01:44:19,320
Speaker 1: the long haul guy. It's about the long haul guy

2079
01:44:20,240 --> 01:44:25,679
Speaker 1: with the spread. I am eighty fifty three in three.

2080
01:44:26,080 --> 01:44:31,160
Speaker 1: Still just a phenomenal toward pace. Uh, Mike sixty seven

2081
01:44:31,360 --> 01:44:36,400
Speaker 1: sixty six and three and Fred fifty five seventy eight

2082
01:44:36,479 --> 01:44:41,680
Speaker 1: and three, Evan forty two forty three and three. I'm

2083
01:44:41,720 --> 01:44:44,720
Speaker 1: getting there getting My winning percentage with the spread is

2084
01:44:44,760 --> 01:44:47,960
Speaker 1: five ninety nine, down from six ozho three last week

2085
01:44:48,000 --> 01:44:50,519
Speaker 1: because I only went seven and five. I can't believe

2086
01:44:50,560 --> 01:44:52,240
Speaker 1: I'm losing this guy. I can tell he's a little

2087
01:44:52,320 --> 01:44:54,720
Speaker 1: upset about it. I had a bad high standard. I

2088
01:44:54,760 --> 01:44:56,800
Speaker 1: had a bad way mind for him. I keep telling

2089
01:44:56,840 --> 01:44:59,280
Speaker 1: you every week, though it's coming. That did like a

2090
01:44:59,320 --> 01:45:02,880
Speaker 1: three and thirty is coming. You can't do this, You

2091
01:45:03,000 --> 01:45:06,240
Speaker 1: can't like if I Bill can do it. If I

2092
01:45:06,280 --> 01:45:08,519
Speaker 1: put one hundred bucks on every game and I went

2093
01:45:08,600 --> 01:45:11,080
Speaker 1: eighty fifty three and three, I wouldn't be here talking

2094
01:45:11,080 --> 01:45:15,040
Speaker 1: to you clowns. Anymore, I'd be home. It was my

2095
01:45:15,120 --> 01:45:19,000
Speaker 1: understanding that there would be no math for all. Right, Well,

2096
01:45:19,080 --> 01:45:22,240
Speaker 1: let's let's start it off tonight with an absolute barn

2097
01:45:22,280 --> 01:45:25,280
Speaker 1: burner down there in the NFC South. We've got Atlanta

2098
01:45:25,479 --> 01:45:28,360
Speaker 1: at Carolina. You know, I'm really glad that the Fenwick

2099
01:45:28,400 --> 01:45:30,200
Speaker 1: game was moved to Thursday night so I do not

2100
01:45:30,280 --> 01:45:32,840
Speaker 1: have to worry about not hitting the last button on

2101
01:45:35,040 --> 01:45:40,479
Speaker 1: Atlanta at Carolina, Atlanta by three p J Walker, I

2102
01:45:40,520 --> 01:45:43,400
Speaker 1: don't know, J Walker. I guess you get to go

2103
01:45:43,479 --> 01:45:46,760
Speaker 1: first this weekend. Oh boy, this is a tough one.

2104
01:45:47,520 --> 01:45:52,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Atlanta. Uh. I think they win by

2105
01:45:52,960 --> 01:45:56,000
Speaker 1: a field goal, so take them to cover. I don't

2106
01:45:56,000 --> 01:45:58,520
Speaker 1: know this game is. I can't even give a taken.

2107
01:45:58,560 --> 01:46:03,040
Speaker 1: It's horrible. It's an insult to football. Will you try

2108
01:46:03,080 --> 01:46:06,160
Speaker 1: to go next? Will you turn it on? Yeah? Probably

2109
01:46:06,760 --> 01:46:08,600
Speaker 1: for a minute. I'll definitely watch the Bruins. There have

2110
01:46:08,680 --> 01:46:11,559
Speaker 1: been there have been more than one of these streamed

2111
01:46:11,600 --> 01:46:15,000
Speaker 1: games that I haven't seen a play because I'll watch

2112
01:46:15,080 --> 01:46:18,680
Speaker 1: the Bruins, you know, and as opposed to you know,

2113
01:46:18,880 --> 01:46:21,240
Speaker 1: load nap the app and pull it up on my phone. Yeah, Chuck,

2114
01:46:21,280 --> 01:46:23,360
Speaker 1: he's coming back. You know, watch I can't really watch

2115
01:46:23,400 --> 01:46:26,720
Speaker 1: stuff on my phone it's too small. Put headphones on

2116
01:46:26,760 --> 01:46:30,960
Speaker 1: the sound makes it seem bigger. Oh, okay, I'll take Atlanta.

2117
01:46:32,360 --> 01:46:35,599
Speaker 1: Uh sure, I'll going against my normal Thursday night routine,

2118
01:46:35,680 --> 01:46:37,680
Speaker 1: especially when there's two bad teams. I always take the

2119
01:46:37,680 --> 01:46:40,120
Speaker 1: home team on Thursday nights. But yeah, I can't. I'll

2120
01:46:40,160 --> 01:46:42,960
Speaker 1: take Atlanta too. All right, we go to one o'clock

2121
01:46:43,040 --> 01:46:45,919
Speaker 1: or sorry, nine thirty am. This is the first Germany

2122
01:46:46,040 --> 01:46:49,519
Speaker 1: game here. Fred is there in person. Tom Brady is

2123
01:46:49,520 --> 01:46:52,920
Speaker 1: there in person. We hope they don't cross pass. Uh.

2124
01:46:53,040 --> 01:46:57,040
Speaker 1: Seattle versus Tampa Bay Tampa by two and a half.

2125
01:46:58,640 --> 01:47:01,200
Speaker 1: The only thing that Tampa has on this game over

2126
01:47:01,280 --> 01:47:04,599
Speaker 1: Seattle is Brady. Right, Like, the Seahawks are playing much

2127
01:47:04,640 --> 01:47:07,680
Speaker 1: better football right right now than Tampa Bay. So I'm

2128
01:47:07,680 --> 01:47:11,080
Speaker 1: actually gonna take Seattle because this is not a home game,

2129
01:47:11,280 --> 01:47:13,240
Speaker 1: right for Tampa, Like, do you know neither team is

2130
01:47:13,280 --> 01:47:15,640
Speaker 1: at home? I think Seattle is playing better football. I

2131
01:47:15,720 --> 01:47:17,600
Speaker 1: am all in on Jina Smith. I think Juina has

2132
01:47:17,640 --> 01:47:21,280
Speaker 1: been awesome. Some might call him the comeback player of

2133
01:47:21,280 --> 01:47:23,400
Speaker 1: the year. What does that mean? Really, I don't really know,

2134
01:47:24,080 --> 01:47:28,880
Speaker 1: but I picked him. Uh, I am taking Tampa. I

2135
01:47:28,960 --> 01:47:31,599
Speaker 1: think Evan said everything right. I think Seattle has been

2136
01:47:31,600 --> 01:47:34,520
Speaker 1: the better team in every week of this season than Tampa.

2137
01:47:34,800 --> 01:47:37,439
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a sucker. Um, and I'm gonna say

2138
01:47:38,479 --> 01:47:43,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. Brady kind of looked like finally we

2139
01:47:43,760 --> 01:47:46,680
Speaker 1: did something positive, even though I think that was all

2140
01:47:46,800 --> 01:47:50,679
Speaker 1: rams related to that last drive. Soft coverage they played

2141
01:47:50,680 --> 01:47:54,160
Speaker 1: on that drive that was pathetic. I'm gonna take Tampa

2142
01:47:54,200 --> 01:47:56,800
Speaker 1: to win the game. Um, but I don't feel great

2143
01:47:56,800 --> 01:47:58,640
Speaker 1: about this pick. Yeah, that's a tough one. I mean

2144
01:47:58,640 --> 01:48:00,320
Speaker 1: in in a good way. I mean I think it'll

2145
01:48:00,360 --> 01:48:02,000
Speaker 1: be kind of an interesting game to flip on them

2146
01:48:02,000 --> 01:48:05,400
Speaker 1: on Sunday morning. Um, as Fred would say, Paul has

2147
01:48:05,400 --> 01:48:07,120
Speaker 1: the correct chance. I'm gonna go with Tampa two. But

2148
01:48:07,160 --> 01:48:08,920
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't feel strongly about it. Okay, and

2149
01:48:08,920 --> 01:48:10,880
Speaker 1: just let everybody know, because I know how much people

2150
01:48:11,240 --> 01:48:16,520
Speaker 1: follow the worst picker in the contest. Fred has Carolina

2151
01:48:16,600 --> 01:48:22,760
Speaker 1: both ways, UH, and Tampa and Tampa both ways. He did,

2152
01:48:22,800 --> 01:48:25,439
Speaker 1: he did give me his picks. I'm so surprised that

2153
01:48:25,560 --> 01:48:30,759
Speaker 1: Fred took Tom Brady. They've kissed. Uh. Sunday at one o'clock,

2154
01:48:30,800 --> 01:48:33,639
Speaker 1: we have the Minnesota Vikings against the Buffalo Bills could

2155
01:48:33,800 --> 01:48:36,519
Speaker 1: be a huge game. Josh Allen not at practice today, though,

2156
01:48:36,680 --> 01:48:39,640
Speaker 1: could be he's questionable. M M yeah, this would be

2157
01:48:39,640 --> 01:48:42,719
Speaker 1: what are we doing? Uh? Minnesota Buffalo. I just gotta

2158
01:48:42,920 --> 01:48:46,760
Speaker 1: just gotta text. Sorry, you know, men pay, I can't multitask.

2159
01:48:46,840 --> 01:48:49,120
Speaker 1: I gotta tex That's why I can't put the phone

2160
01:48:49,120 --> 01:48:52,799
Speaker 1: on when I'm watching the Bruins have Minnesota at Buffalo.

2161
01:48:53,240 --> 01:48:55,880
Speaker 1: Buffalo buy five and a half, So that's dropped a

2162
01:48:55,880 --> 01:48:57,680
Speaker 1: lot um. Yeah, I think it's down to three and

2163
01:48:57,720 --> 01:48:59,880
Speaker 1: a half. Actually, but it's this morning. It was five

2164
01:49:00,000 --> 01:49:01,559
Speaker 1: and a half. It opened at nine and a half.

2165
01:49:02,800 --> 01:49:05,840
Speaker 1: I just realized that I got a text. Is probably

2166
01:49:05,880 --> 01:49:09,120
Speaker 1: isn't the Love Island audience that we're looking for, But anyways,

2167
01:49:10,040 --> 01:49:14,639
Speaker 1: Love Island a good one. Vikings the Vikings, I think

2168
01:49:14,640 --> 01:49:17,240
Speaker 1: you've seen it a couple of times. I think you, Paul,

2169
01:49:17,280 --> 01:49:19,479
Speaker 1: you brought this up that if they played case Keenum,

2170
01:49:19,479 --> 01:49:24,120
Speaker 1: it's four backup quarterbacks. Yeah, they've played yeah, and I incredible,

2171
01:49:24,680 --> 01:49:26,479
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's a string of luck. I know

2172
01:49:26,520 --> 01:49:31,479
Speaker 1: they saw Bridgewater and yeah, Thompson against Miami, Yeah, right,

2173
01:49:31,600 --> 01:49:34,200
Speaker 1: which is probably the best win at Miami. Yeah, and

2174
01:49:34,680 --> 01:49:37,320
Speaker 1: has a huge It's just interesting more less about this game,

2175
01:49:37,360 --> 01:49:39,599
Speaker 1: but more about looking ahead to that Thanksgiving night game.

2176
01:49:39,640 --> 01:49:41,320
Speaker 1: And you know that game is going to be built

2177
01:49:41,360 --> 01:49:44,559
Speaker 1: up as maybe the eight or nine and one vikings

2178
01:49:44,600 --> 01:49:48,040
Speaker 1: against the Patriots and maybe not real a real eight

2179
01:49:48,120 --> 01:49:50,240
Speaker 1: or nine. And give some credit for going to Buffalo

2180
01:49:50,240 --> 01:49:54,400
Speaker 1: and winning this game, even if case Keenum wins plays. Sorry,

2181
01:49:56,120 --> 01:49:57,880
Speaker 1: I think that the Bills are gonna win this game.

2182
01:49:58,880 --> 01:50:01,200
Speaker 1: I think the Bills are gonna cu ever, and I

2183
01:50:01,240 --> 01:50:05,320
Speaker 1: think that Josh Allen's gonna play and I think that's

2184
01:50:05,360 --> 01:50:08,559
Speaker 1: how and he'll be out in the year because the

2185
01:50:08,600 --> 01:50:12,639
Speaker 1: Patriots played him in two weeks. Uh. So you am

2186
01:50:12,640 --> 01:50:15,800
Speaker 1: I going before you or after you? Okay, Um, I

2187
01:50:15,840 --> 01:50:18,080
Speaker 1: am going to I am going to take Buffalo to

2188
01:50:18,080 --> 01:50:20,160
Speaker 1: win the game. I am going to take the points.

2189
01:50:20,160 --> 01:50:22,799
Speaker 1: I think it'll be a close game. I think Keenam

2190
01:50:22,920 --> 01:50:27,360
Speaker 1: is a capable backup that that won't necessarily destroy the game.

2191
01:50:27,760 --> 01:50:32,360
Speaker 1: He could not. I think he's had some success, most

2192
01:50:32,439 --> 01:50:35,599
Speaker 1: success he had with Minnesota that year. Um, but I'm

2193
01:50:35,640 --> 01:50:37,559
Speaker 1: gonna take Buffalo at home. I think that's a hard

2194
01:50:37,560 --> 01:50:40,800
Speaker 1: place to play. I don't think Minnesota. Everybody knows how

2195
01:50:40,840 --> 01:50:42,439
Speaker 1: I feel about the Vikings. I don't think they're ready

2196
01:50:42,479 --> 01:50:43,880
Speaker 1: to win this game. You know, I'm gonna get a

2197
01:50:43,880 --> 01:50:46,280
Speaker 1: little weird. I'm gonna take Minnesota to win this one.

2198
01:50:46,960 --> 01:50:49,439
Speaker 1: I can totally see Josh Allen trying to play and

2199
01:50:49,479 --> 01:50:51,760
Speaker 1: maybe throwing a couple of picks and oh, maybe we

2200
01:50:51,760 --> 01:50:53,840
Speaker 1: should have done this. I'm gonna roll the dice though.

2201
01:50:53,840 --> 01:50:55,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the Vikes. It's just Sean McDermott

2202
01:50:55,880 --> 01:50:58,600
Speaker 1: like he's he's oh, he's a former wrestler, right, Like

2203
01:50:58,640 --> 01:51:01,800
Speaker 1: they just want to have that like tough guy energy play.

2204
01:51:01,840 --> 01:51:03,920
Speaker 1: You can both think he's gonna play. Yeah, because I

2205
01:51:03,960 --> 01:51:08,320
Speaker 1: think that that's sort of their mantra. In Buffalo, we're Buffaloe.

2206
01:51:08,479 --> 01:51:11,599
Speaker 1: I think he sits this hole here and maybe maybe

2207
01:51:11,720 --> 01:51:17,960
Speaker 1: next week and then they'll have uh, you know, I

2208
01:51:18,000 --> 01:51:20,440
Speaker 1: think they have the Jets again and then the Patriots,

2209
01:51:20,560 --> 01:51:22,160
Speaker 1: and I think they will want him back for the

2210
01:51:22,160 --> 01:51:27,000
Speaker 1: division games. I gotta hurry. Uh, we really don't. Sunday

2211
01:51:27,000 --> 01:51:29,479
Speaker 1: at one, we have Oh, by the way, Fred Buffalo

2212
01:51:29,520 --> 01:51:36,839
Speaker 1: both ways, Buffalo Detroit at Detroit basketball, Uh, Chicago by three.

2213
01:51:37,439 --> 01:51:40,760
Speaker 1: I'm taking Justin Fields. He's on He's in fougo since

2214
01:51:40,800 --> 01:51:42,800
Speaker 1: Monday night. Fl so on a heater. You're welcome, he is,

2215
01:51:43,240 --> 01:51:46,680
Speaker 1: You're welcome. Bears. I love Justin Fields. Um, I will

2216
01:51:46,720 --> 01:51:48,880
Speaker 1: take the Bears as well. Yep, I'm on the Bears

2217
01:51:48,880 --> 01:51:52,200
Speaker 1: as well. Uh did you all right? Chicago for Freddy?

2218
01:51:52,280 --> 01:51:55,720
Speaker 1: To Chicago for Freddy? Sunday at one? Denver in a

2219
01:51:55,840 --> 01:51:59,040
Speaker 1: rare away game at Tennessee. So this is great. Fred's

2220
01:51:59,080 --> 01:52:02,439
Speaker 1: not here when Denver's on the road. Uh, Tennessee, excuse me?

2221
01:52:02,479 --> 01:52:07,439
Speaker 1: By three, Tennessee by three, coming off a tough loss

2222
01:52:07,479 --> 01:52:11,400
Speaker 1: to Kansas City. I like Wilson. What's this wrist band

2223
01:52:11,400 --> 01:52:13,880
Speaker 1: thing I've been hearing about with Russell Wilson. I think

2224
01:52:13,920 --> 01:52:16,840
Speaker 1: he's like not wearing well, Russell Wilson wouldn't wear a

2225
01:52:16,840 --> 01:52:19,920
Speaker 1: wrist band, and Gino Smith wears one. And Pete Carroll

2226
01:52:20,280 --> 01:52:23,439
Speaker 1: put another check in Geno Smith's category because he also

2227
01:52:23,479 --> 01:52:26,519
Speaker 1: wears a wrist band. With our old friend Shane Waldron

2228
01:52:26,840 --> 01:52:29,080
Speaker 1: running that offense in Seattle, he was he was here

2229
01:52:29,120 --> 01:52:35,320
Speaker 1: with us. Yeah, guy, I would say, I'm gonna go Titans.

2230
01:52:35,760 --> 01:52:37,559
Speaker 1: I like the Broncos in this game for a lot

2231
01:52:37,560 --> 01:52:39,920
Speaker 1: of reasons, but like, there's something about Tennessee that they

2232
01:52:39,920 --> 01:52:44,480
Speaker 1: always just win games that they're not supposed to win.

2233
01:52:44,640 --> 01:52:46,800
Speaker 1: They almost did it last week. Yeah. Yeah, I want

2234
01:52:46,840 --> 01:52:49,160
Speaker 1: to take Tennessee too. I like their toughness, and I

2235
01:52:49,280 --> 01:52:52,960
Speaker 1: just if Russell Wilson turns it around, then I'll start

2236
01:52:53,160 --> 01:52:55,960
Speaker 1: thinking about the Broncos differently. The Broncos defense is terrific.

2237
01:52:56,000 --> 01:52:58,599
Speaker 1: I don't see Derrick Henry running all over them. Yeah,

2238
01:52:58,640 --> 01:53:01,479
Speaker 1: but I think he'll run just enough to put some

2239
01:53:01,479 --> 01:53:03,840
Speaker 1: points on the board. Yeah. I'm with you, guys. Tennessee

2240
01:53:03,920 --> 01:53:07,519
Speaker 1: for me, Tennessee for Fred as well. Sunday at one,

2241
01:53:07,680 --> 01:53:11,639
Speaker 1: we have the Jacksonville Jaguars at the Kansas City Chiefs.

2242
01:53:12,360 --> 01:53:16,000
Speaker 1: Kansas City by nine and a half. I mean, Chiefs

2243
01:53:16,040 --> 01:53:19,479
Speaker 1: both ways best team in football. Yeah, I agree. I

2244
01:53:19,479 --> 01:53:23,120
Speaker 1: think Super Bowl favor right now now? Is that because

2245
01:53:23,280 --> 01:53:27,599
Speaker 1: of Josh Allen or yes, doesn't matter. Yeah, They're clearly

2246
01:53:27,880 --> 01:53:30,920
Speaker 1: the two best teams in the league. I feel like

2247
01:53:31,000 --> 01:53:34,200
Speaker 1: Evans made at an advancement there. What do you mean

2248
01:53:34,600 --> 01:53:36,280
Speaker 1: I thinks are willing to say that about three or

2249
01:53:36,320 --> 01:53:39,040
Speaker 1: four weeks ago. Buff Yeah, and I actually think Buffalo

2250
01:53:39,080 --> 01:53:41,240
Speaker 1: has kind of shown some chinks in the armor, not

2251
01:53:41,320 --> 01:53:43,080
Speaker 1: the least of which is the injury. Obviously that's a

2252
01:53:43,080 --> 01:53:45,679
Speaker 1: game changer, but kind of getting run on a little

2253
01:53:45,680 --> 01:53:47,639
Speaker 1: bit lately. I will take Kansas City as well. I'm

2254
01:53:47,640 --> 01:53:50,479
Speaker 1: with you guys, Freddy as well. Yeah, I'm on Kansas City,

2255
01:53:51,840 --> 01:53:56,160
Speaker 1: all right. Sunday at one, Miami Dolphins are welcoming the

2256
01:53:56,520 --> 01:54:01,720
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns, Miami by three and a half, three and

2257
01:54:01,760 --> 01:54:04,559
Speaker 1: a half, Miami to win, Miami to cover by a lot.

2258
01:54:04,600 --> 01:54:06,679
Speaker 1: I mean, how how many points is that Brown's defense

2259
01:54:06,760 --> 01:54:09,360
Speaker 1: going to give up to Bailey Zappy? Right? They gave

2260
01:54:09,400 --> 01:54:11,559
Speaker 1: a bit? How many to Bailey Zappi and now they

2261
01:54:11,600 --> 01:54:15,519
Speaker 1: had to play? Yeah, you better hope you are right.

2262
01:54:16,479 --> 01:54:18,479
Speaker 1: This is one that you and I will get some blowback.

2263
01:54:19,040 --> 01:54:21,519
Speaker 1: I'm with Evan on this. I'll take Miami. But you

2264
01:54:21,560 --> 01:54:23,599
Speaker 1: know how Patriots face How are the Dolphins only favorite?

2265
01:54:23,800 --> 01:54:26,240
Speaker 1: You know how Patriots fans look at these things. I

2266
01:54:26,280 --> 01:54:28,160
Speaker 1: don't know, how are the only favorite by three and

2267
01:54:28,160 --> 01:54:30,040
Speaker 1: a half. You watch, Cleveland will win this game twenty

2268
01:54:30,080 --> 01:54:35,320
Speaker 1: to seventeen, and everybody's I would have said thirteen and

2269
01:54:35,360 --> 01:54:38,560
Speaker 1: a half, three and a half to two. MVP candidate,

2270
01:54:38,640 --> 01:54:42,480
Speaker 1: I'm saying in Miami too, Freddy as well, all right, Uh,

2271
01:54:42,600 --> 01:54:46,120
Speaker 1: Sunday at one another one Houston Texans, probably the worst

2272
01:54:46,120 --> 01:54:49,600
Speaker 1: team in the league at the New York Giants, Giants

2273
01:54:49,600 --> 01:54:51,760
Speaker 1: by six and a half. Coming off the buy six

2274
01:54:51,800 --> 01:54:54,800
Speaker 1: and a half. I still like the Giants both ways.

2275
01:54:54,880 --> 01:55:00,640
Speaker 1: This This Texans team stinks. They stink, Mike, They're not

2276
01:55:00,800 --> 01:55:06,040
Speaker 1: good language. Yeah, I will take the Giants both ways too.

2277
01:55:06,080 --> 01:55:07,880
Speaker 1: I was thinking about taking the points, but I I

2278
01:55:07,920 --> 01:55:09,840
Speaker 1: was thinking about taking the points too, but I'm not

2279
01:55:09,880 --> 01:55:12,240
Speaker 1: going to. I think the Giants will win. Freddie has

2280
01:55:12,240 --> 01:55:16,240
Speaker 1: the Giants both ways. Sunday at one New Orleans Saints

2281
01:55:16,280 --> 01:55:20,720
Speaker 1: at the Pittsburgh Steelers gross Saints by two and a half.

2282
01:55:20,880 --> 01:55:24,080
Speaker 1: What a terrible game. I'm gonna take the Saints. I

2283
01:55:24,400 --> 01:55:27,440
Speaker 1: think I just trust them more right now to put

2284
01:55:27,480 --> 01:55:30,520
Speaker 1: something together. I just don't know what the Steelers are

2285
01:55:30,520 --> 01:55:32,400
Speaker 1: good at, Like, what what's the thing that the Steelers

2286
01:55:32,400 --> 01:55:35,040
Speaker 1: can say we're good at this? I think nothing. So

2287
01:55:35,760 --> 01:55:38,400
Speaker 1: I think I totally agree. I'm I have the Saints too,

2288
01:55:38,440 --> 01:55:43,880
Speaker 1: So does Freddy. I saw Jeremy Fowler was trying to

2289
01:55:43,880 --> 01:55:46,160
Speaker 1: take teams that are outside of the playoff structure and

2290
01:55:46,200 --> 01:55:48,400
Speaker 1: predicting the Patriots is one of the teams. Totally get

2291
01:55:48,440 --> 01:55:51,240
Speaker 1: it right, they're like a blink out of the playoffs. Now,

2292
01:55:51,280 --> 01:55:54,280
Speaker 1: so Pittsburgh was one of the teams that you thought that, like,

2293
01:55:54,640 --> 01:55:57,760
Speaker 1: what have you seen from Pittsburgh that would lead you

2294
01:55:57,760 --> 01:56:00,520
Speaker 1: to believe that that's a playoff team. That's the same

2295
01:56:00,560 --> 01:56:02,200
Speaker 1: thing that I know, I didn't read it, but probably

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01:56:02,240 --> 01:56:04,640
Speaker 1: just you know, Tomlin's never had a losing season. I

2297
01:56:04,680 --> 01:56:07,960
Speaker 1: think that's that's the fact, right, that's the little trip. Yea.

2298
01:56:08,240 --> 01:56:11,480
Speaker 1: So maybe he thinks that they'll get to five hundred.

2299
01:56:11,680 --> 01:56:14,320
Speaker 1: They're like two and six, right figure, Yeah, so you're

2300
01:56:14,360 --> 01:56:19,280
Speaker 1: looking at seven and two they need to go to

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01:56:19,400 --> 01:56:22,800
Speaker 1: have a winning season, Like, are they capable of going

2302
01:56:22,920 --> 01:56:25,080
Speaker 1: seven and two the rest of the way, Let's say

2303
01:56:25,400 --> 01:56:27,320
Speaker 1: clone t J. Watton and that's just to go nine

2304
01:56:27,360 --> 01:56:30,720
Speaker 1: and eight, which I don't think he's supposed to be playing. Yeah,

2305
01:56:30,720 --> 01:56:32,440
Speaker 1: either this week or next week, that's not gonna matter.

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01:56:32,480 --> 01:56:36,040
Speaker 1: I'm on New Orleans too, all right less, they have

2307
01:56:36,040 --> 01:56:38,800
Speaker 1: a ridiculously easy schedule, which is possible. We're at the

2308
01:56:39,040 --> 01:56:41,680
Speaker 1: four or five games on Sunday Indianapolis and head coach

2309
01:56:41,760 --> 01:56:45,200
Speaker 1: Jeff Saturday visit Josh McDaniels and the desperately in need

2310
01:56:45,200 --> 01:56:48,520
Speaker 1: of a win, Raiders Raiders by six and a half.

2311
01:56:48,760 --> 01:56:51,200
Speaker 1: So part of me thinks that this Jeff Saturday thing

2312
01:56:51,240 --> 01:56:54,400
Speaker 1: works one game right, where they like rally around him

2313
01:56:54,440 --> 01:57:00,440
Speaker 1: and the Patriots fans, they get a win. But also

2314
01:57:00,480 --> 01:57:03,400
Speaker 1: a bigger part of me looks at Sam ell Ellinger's

2315
01:57:03,480 --> 01:57:07,080
Speaker 1: tape last week and is just like, I can't see it.

2316
01:57:07,160 --> 01:57:09,960
Speaker 1: So I'll take the Raiders, but I will take the

2317
01:57:10,000 --> 01:57:13,880
Speaker 1: Colts to keep it close. Yeah, I am right with Evan.

2318
01:57:14,320 --> 01:57:17,320
Speaker 1: I I'm taking the Raiders because I just think there's

2319
01:57:17,360 --> 01:57:19,760
Speaker 1: so much better. But I'll take the points because I

2320
01:57:19,760 --> 01:57:22,600
Speaker 1: don't trust whatever's going on in those second halves that

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01:57:22,640 --> 01:57:25,080
Speaker 1: they can't score any points. I don't understand what's going on.

2322
01:57:25,480 --> 01:57:28,280
Speaker 1: I haven't watched any of it. It's three seventeen point

2323
01:57:28,360 --> 01:57:31,720
Speaker 1: leads in one year. Is amazing. It's amazing. How also

2324
01:57:31,800 --> 01:57:35,680
Speaker 1: the tides have turned here locally about Josh McDaniels because

2325
01:57:35,680 --> 01:57:38,440
Speaker 1: like now I feel like we're the boombox right, like

2326
01:57:38,560 --> 01:57:41,280
Speaker 1: please come back Josh, where like wait, when he left,

2327
01:57:41,320 --> 01:57:44,919
Speaker 1: I feel like some people had soured on on McDaniels locally,

2328
01:57:45,040 --> 01:57:46,760
Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden, he's like the savior

2329
01:57:46,800 --> 01:57:48,720
Speaker 1: that we need back. Come back, Josh, I'm gonna take

2330
01:57:48,800 --> 01:57:51,160
Speaker 1: Las Vegas. I'm gonna lay the points though. Yeah, so Freddy,

2331
01:57:51,200 --> 01:57:54,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna they're gonna hammer him hur Twenty five Sunday,

2332
01:57:54,920 --> 01:58:01,800
Speaker 1: Dallas at green Bay, Dallas by five. I like the Cowboys,

2333
01:58:01,800 --> 01:58:03,320
Speaker 1: but I think this is going to be a close game.

2334
01:58:03,440 --> 01:58:05,440
Speaker 1: I did a lot of history between these two teams.

2335
01:58:05,720 --> 01:58:08,800
Speaker 1: I think Aaron Rodgers gets up for playing Dallas like

2336
01:58:08,800 --> 01:58:10,800
Speaker 1: I think that that that means something to him to

2337
01:58:10,840 --> 01:58:13,800
Speaker 1: play the Cowboys. So I like Dallas, but I think

2338
01:58:13,800 --> 01:58:16,760
Speaker 1: it's a field goal game. I'm gonna take Dallas both ways.

2339
01:58:16,840 --> 01:58:18,480
Speaker 1: And I just look at the way Dallas has played

2340
01:58:18,480 --> 01:58:20,360
Speaker 1: defense and the way green Bay has played offense, and

2341
01:58:20,360 --> 01:58:22,240
Speaker 1: I can't imagine that that's the this is the game

2342
01:58:22,280 --> 01:58:25,280
Speaker 1: that's gonna change. But you know, at Lambo, who knows

2343
01:58:25,440 --> 01:58:27,600
Speaker 1: stranger things, I'm with you on Dallas. I'm gonna lay

2344
01:58:27,640 --> 01:58:34,040
Speaker 1: the points to West battle Arizona at the ROMs. The

2345
01:58:34,160 --> 01:58:38,520
Speaker 1: ROMs could be without Matthew Stafford and they're favored by three.

2346
01:58:39,200 --> 01:58:41,480
Speaker 1: I think they owned the Cardinals, right, that's the that

2347
01:58:41,640 --> 01:58:45,240
Speaker 1: is and one of the rules of the NC West rules, Yes, yes,

2348
01:58:45,520 --> 01:58:47,760
Speaker 1: what are the rules? Don't go against the rules. It's

2349
01:58:47,800 --> 01:58:50,160
Speaker 1: tough to pick this one without knowing what Matthew Stafford's

2350
01:58:50,320 --> 01:58:54,680
Speaker 1: situation is going to be. Um, who's the backup? Is

2351
01:58:54,680 --> 01:58:59,840
Speaker 1: it still? What's his name? Forget? I can see it,

2352
01:59:00,080 --> 01:59:05,920
Speaker 1: I can't too hear it. Just um, gotta hurry. I

2353
01:59:05,960 --> 01:59:11,320
Speaker 1: gonna take the Cardinals. I don't like it, though, Paul is.

2354
01:59:12,240 --> 01:59:14,960
Speaker 1: I'm watching the end of this college basketball game. Something

2355
01:59:15,000 --> 01:59:17,720
Speaker 1: we have to hur n uh? Yeah, do they win

2356
01:59:17,800 --> 01:59:26,920
Speaker 1: this game? What else they too? Something? Oh? Bell? Oh yeah,

2357
01:59:28,000 --> 01:59:30,600
Speaker 1: that's a big upset. Um. All right, so I'm gonna

2358
01:59:30,640 --> 01:59:32,920
Speaker 1: take the lar Dude, who did you take? Ff? I

2359
01:59:32,960 --> 01:59:36,480
Speaker 1: took Arizona because of the backup quarterback. Yeah. I think

2360
01:59:36,520 --> 01:59:41,840
Speaker 1: that sometimes, Um, these things that are you know, doesn't matter,

2361
01:59:41,920 --> 01:59:43,880
Speaker 1: like they probably are looking at like what we finally

2362
01:59:43,920 --> 01:59:46,000
Speaker 1: have a chance to beat the Rams and then they don't.

2363
01:59:46,440 --> 01:59:49,440
Speaker 1: I think there's something wrong in Arizona. There's certainly something

2364
01:59:49,480 --> 01:59:53,080
Speaker 1: wrong with the Rams. That's that's inarguable. But I'll roll

2365
01:59:53,120 --> 01:59:55,840
Speaker 1: the dice. We'll be figuring out the backup quarterback. I

2366
01:59:55,840 --> 01:59:58,520
Speaker 1: can't think of even but I'm eighteen. I'm gonna I'm

2367
01:59:58,520 --> 02:00:01,080
Speaker 1: gonna take I'm gonna take Arizona. I'm gonna take. It's

2368
02:00:01,120 --> 02:00:04,080
Speaker 1: not number eighteen, that's Grono. Oh yeah you took. You

2369
02:00:04,120 --> 02:00:07,080
Speaker 1: took who Arizona? And I'll take the points. Okay, two

2370
02:00:07,080 --> 02:00:10,440
Speaker 1: more games to go, it's yeah, and that's the Rams

2371
02:00:10,440 --> 02:00:14,080
Speaker 1: for Freddie John Wolford Wolford, Yeah, I'm glad I took

2372
02:00:14,080 --> 02:00:17,400
Speaker 1: the Rams, all right, took Arizona. So fred listen to

2373
02:00:17,400 --> 02:00:19,160
Speaker 1: this back and say, see it's two o'clock and they're

2374
02:00:19,160 --> 02:00:21,160
Speaker 1: not done yet. Yeah, you didn't hurry. Of course. I

2375
02:00:21,200 --> 02:00:23,480
Speaker 1: watched the whole the all end of the Louisville game

2376
02:00:23,840 --> 02:00:27,600
Speaker 1: Sunday at a twenty the lack at San Francisco San

2377
02:00:27,680 --> 02:00:32,280
Speaker 1: fran by seven. That's a big spread. It is the

2378
02:00:32,320 --> 02:00:34,760
Speaker 1: biggest spread. I like the forty nine ers, but yeah,

2379
02:00:34,800 --> 02:00:37,640
Speaker 1: I like just to be close enough that the Chargers

2380
02:00:37,680 --> 02:00:43,080
Speaker 1: cover that. I think justin Herbert primetime game, I like

2381
02:00:43,160 --> 02:00:45,920
Speaker 1: him to play. Well, I'm gonna do this, excuse me,

2382
02:00:46,160 --> 02:00:49,520
Speaker 1: same thing, San Fran and I'll take the uh the points.

2383
02:00:50,000 --> 02:00:52,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the Chargers with the upset. How about that?

2384
02:00:53,160 --> 02:00:57,000
Speaker 1: Why point? Now that's an upset. Freddie has San Francisco

2385
02:00:57,320 --> 02:01:02,080
Speaker 1: and last one Washington at Philadelphia Monday Night football Philly

2386
02:01:02,120 --> 02:01:05,200
Speaker 1: by ten and a half, Philly by a million. Yeah,

2387
02:01:05,720 --> 02:01:08,160
Speaker 1: let's see if I can write that in the spa

2388
02:01:08,360 --> 02:01:13,200
Speaker 1: um million. So I am going to take the points.

2389
02:01:13,240 --> 02:01:14,600
Speaker 1: I just think that's a lot of points in a

2390
02:01:14,640 --> 02:01:17,120
Speaker 1: divisional game. Are you seeing what's happening with the commanders

2391
02:01:17,160 --> 02:01:20,160
Speaker 1: right now? Yeah, but as he's still going to play.

2392
02:01:20,240 --> 02:01:22,760
Speaker 1: Yeah that the statement today they got sued. Yeah, no

2393
02:01:22,800 --> 02:01:25,640
Speaker 1: by the age, But that's not what is that going

2394
02:01:25,680 --> 02:01:28,120
Speaker 1: to have to do with the whole person? Oh the

2395
02:01:28,400 --> 02:01:32,840
Speaker 1: organization's a complete dumpster fire. But I'll take the points,

2396
02:01:33,200 --> 02:01:36,600
Speaker 1: all right. That'll do it for us. You have to

2397
02:01:36,640 --> 02:01:38,440
Speaker 1: make a pick. Yeah, you know, I did. I did.

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Speaker 1: Don't be don't be host boy, and just avoid the

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Speaker 1: penalties facilitating the conversation. Stay tuned for the playbook up next.

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02:01:48,240 --> 02:01:53,440
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02:01:53,480 --> 02:01:57,080
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