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Speaker 2: Welcome in, everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Sunday. Mark

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Speaker 2: Willard is out, Aaron Torres in alongside Kyle Rudolph. We

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Speaker 2: As de Seger just told you, got it sounds a

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Speaker 2: little bit of a butt kicking in San Francisco right now,

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Speaker 2: Lions up twenty one seven and driving late in the

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Speaker 2: second quarter as we head to halftime. Kyle Rudolph, it's

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Speaker 2: great to join you. And let me say this. I

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Speaker 2: listen to you and Willard every week. Willard's a great guy.

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Speaker 2: I think he might have dodged a bullet not having

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Speaker 2: to work with him today. I don't know how fun

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Speaker 2: he'd be to work with right now.

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Speaker 3: How you doing, man?

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Speaker 4: No, this would certainly not be a good night for

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Speaker 4: Mark to be live on air. We've talked about this

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Speaker 4: all year, and you know, obviously big forty nine ers guy.

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Speaker 4: We kind of said it that when the Niners were

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Speaker 4: healthy and at their best, they'd be tough to beat.

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Speaker 4: But we also talked about when Kyle Shanahan gets behind

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Speaker 4: in games and Brock Purdy turns into a drop back

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Speaker 4: passer and he can't just turn around and hand the

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Speaker 4: ball off use play action, things get really difficult for them.

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Speaker 4: And you got to give the Detroit Lions credit the

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Speaker 4: way that they've played this first half. I'd have to

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Speaker 4: imagine all the week long meetings. Last night at the hotel,

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Speaker 4: when Dan Campbell talked about the start that they wanted

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Speaker 4: to come out to on the road in the Bay Area,

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Speaker 4: this was it. I mean, just executing in all phases, offense, defense,

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Speaker 4: special teams, picking up huge third downs. It's been really

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Speaker 4: impressive to watch so far.

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Speaker 2: So let me ask you a question because obviously, look,

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Speaker 2: we all know the mantra of the Detroit Lions, you know, biting, kneecaps,

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Speaker 2: all that stuff. We all know they're a physical team.

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Speaker 2: But listen, are the San Francisco forty nine ers not

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Speaker 2: physical as well? With you know, elite guys on the

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Speaker 2: defensive line, on the offensive line up whatever? Are you

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Speaker 2: not not just with the final not just with the

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Speaker 2: score itself. Twenty one to seven. Again, Detroit with the

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Speaker 2: ball thirty three seconds left in the second quarter as

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Speaker 2: they're trying to get into the end zone again, are

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Speaker 2: you surprised with the manner in which they are doing this?

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Speaker 2: As Detroit does pick up a first down, they are

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Speaker 2: in the red zone about twenty eight seconds left. Are

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Speaker 2: you surprised with the manner in which they are doing

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Speaker 2: this to the San Francisco forty nine ers in a

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Speaker 2: game in which they have rushed for one hundred and

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Speaker 2: forty seven yards seven and a half yards per rush.

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Speaker 2: Are you surprised not just with the score, Kyle, but

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Speaker 2: also just the manner in which Detroit is kind of

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Speaker 2: bullying them up and down the field.

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Speaker 4: You know what, I think one thing Aaron with the

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Speaker 4: Detroit Lions. You said it when we were talking about

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Speaker 4: Dan Campbell and the men, the physicality, biting kneecaps off,

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Speaker 4: just the way that the way that he goes about things,

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Speaker 4: the identity that he's instilled in this team. They want

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Speaker 4: to depict the city in which they represent, and they

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Speaker 4: want that city to be proud of the team that

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Speaker 4: they see on the field. What's not talked about enough

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Speaker 4: of this Detroit Lions team is how incredibly skilled they are.

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Speaker 4: Jamiir Gibbs, Jamison Williams, I'm on Ross, Saint Brown, Sam Laporta,

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Speaker 4: David Montgomery, Like, this isn't the you know, I'm not

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Speaker 4: just saying this because the Baltimore Ravens played today, but

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Speaker 4: this isn't the Baltimore Ravens of the last five years

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Speaker 4: where it's multiple tight ends, extra offensive linemen. We're gonna

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Speaker 4: try to run it forty five times a game, even

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Speaker 4: in the run game. Like you watch Jamir Gibbs in

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Speaker 4: the run game, and he's so incredibly skilled and explosive

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Speaker 4: and fast. This isn't just this physical, big, beat you up,

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Speaker 4: bite your kneecaps type team. And again I give them

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Speaker 4: credit the way they started this game, almost playing a

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Speaker 3: So I agree with all of that.

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Speaker 2: Again, Detroit is in the red zone up twenty one

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Speaker 2: So obviously if they do not get into the red

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Speaker 2: I would assume they would kick a field goal.

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Speaker 3: With Dan Campbell, you never really know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah no, And I think that's an interesting point that

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Speaker 2: you just made as Jamiir Gibbs did have a big rush. Earlier,

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Speaker 2: Jamison Williams had a huge play that set up the

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Speaker 2: first touchdown of the game. Jamiir Gibbs actually just caught

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Speaker 2: the ball and he fell, Otherwise he had a lane

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Speaker 2: to score. Again, it does look like with about ten

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Speaker 2: a field goal, likely to go up twenty four to seven.

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Speaker 2: A long again with Dan Campbell, you never really know.

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Speaker 2: It was funny because right before he came on, Jamiir

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Speaker 2: Gibbs had that rushing touchdown. That was something that I

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Speaker 2: did put out on Twitter. As you know, you go

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Speaker 2: back to draft night last year and and and people

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Speaker 2: are making fun of Detroit, you know, quote unquote drafting

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Speaker 2: that loves college football, so obviously I paid close attention

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Speaker 2: to what Jamir Gibbs did both at Alabama and at

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Speaker 3: Even before that.

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Speaker 2: It's like, you know, I'm I'm far from a draft

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Speaker 2: expert or a scheme expert, but it's like this guy

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Speaker 2: is so much more than just a between This isn't

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Speaker 2: you know, Jerome bettis this isn't Emmett Smith. This is

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Speaker 2: a guy that that you can use in so many

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Speaker 2: different ways. Obviously the Lions have have done it. They

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Speaker 2: are lining up to kick a field goal. But but

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Speaker 2: I think that's a great point by you, Kyle Is.

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Speaker 2: I think we do think Midwest like as I said,

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Speaker 2: bite kneecaps physicality and and I think it starts from

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Speaker 2: a physicality perspective. But their skill guys between like you said,

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Speaker 2: I'm on a Ross Saint Brown, Jamison Williams, James Jamiir Gibbs.

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Speaker 2: It's like they do have some like wild uh, you know,

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Speaker 3: Detroit, by the way, does kick the field goal. They're

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Speaker 2: Maybe that was unfair of me to kind of pigeonhole them.

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Speaker 2: Is just physically beating up the forty nine ers because

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Speaker 2: they're getting those guys the ball in space and they're

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Speaker 2: making a lot of guys miss and they're running frankly

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think what people don't realize is where

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Speaker 4: Dan Campbell came from and a guy that he was

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Speaker 4: around for a long time in New Orleans and Alvin Kamara, right,

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Speaker 4: he was everything for that Saints offense, and he being

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Speaker 4: on the offensive side of the ball, was in game

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Speaker 4: plan meetings all week, every week, all season long, when

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Speaker 4: Sean Payton was finding forty ways to get Alvin Kamara

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Speaker 4: in the screen game, and all of a sudden, now

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Speaker 4: he's the head coach on another team running another offense.

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Speaker 4: Jamiir Gibbs is that same type of back. He's a

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Speaker 4: guy that you can pitch the ball to in space

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Speaker 4: down hill. He's a guy that you can throw to

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Speaker 4: in the screen game. He's a guy that you can

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Speaker 4: run out on choice routes and different routes out of

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Speaker 4: credit because you look at their draft and their top

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Speaker 4: And then how do you follow up running back at twelve?

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Speaker 4: You take an inside linebacker at eighteen? What are you doing? Like?

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Speaker 4: You know, linebackers don't even really play, you know, it's

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Speaker 4: the game's played in space now and you're taking this

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Speaker 4: then they follow it up with, you know, the Sam

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Speaker 4: and they they had an identity of a football player.

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Speaker 4: It didn't They didn't draft based on position of the

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Speaker 4: player and position in the draft. They said, this is

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Speaker 4: the type of football player that we want. They fit

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Speaker 4: our culture, this is who we're bringing in, and they

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Speaker 4: are going to be great football players for us right away.

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Speaker 4: And I mean, those four rookies have made a huge

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Speaker 4: difference in this team all year long, and they're showing

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Speaker 4: up today in the NFC Championship game.

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Speaker 2: Well, and I mean thinking about even the draft before.

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Speaker 2: I mean Aiden Hutchinson. Yes, there was some talk that

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Speaker 2: he could potentially go number one, But what was the

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Speaker 2: conversation where they drafted him. Oh, it's the feel good story.

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Speaker 2: He's the Michigan star staying in Michigan. And you know,

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Speaker 2: there was talk that was the year of Thibideau. Should

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Speaker 2: you go Thibideau, Should you go in a different direction,

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Speaker 2: should you take this? Should you, by the way, take

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Speaker 2: And then remember to this, people forget this. Jamison Williams

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Speaker 2: was coming off an ACL injury and they drafted him

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Speaker 2: at number twelve overall. So it's like it goes back

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Speaker 2: to I don't know if I even reference this off

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Speaker 2: the top. I know I was talking to Buyer kind

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Speaker 2: just think, listen, you know, you look at this team,

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Speaker 2: you look at this organization. It's like at homes, like

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Speaker 2: we don't talk about gms and front offices enough, but

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Speaker 2: it's like they basically haven't missed out a draft pick,

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Speaker 2: Goff story list, and it's been talked about again and

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Speaker 2: again and again. I do live here in LA I'm

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Speaker 2: necessarily have any strong opinions on Jared Goff, but I

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Speaker 2: do think, like a lot of other people, that it

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Speaker 2: was like, Okay, you know, you're trading for him because

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Speaker 2: Matt Stafford doesn't want to be there. You're trying to

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Speaker 2: get out from under the contract and then what again,

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Speaker 2: what was the conversation going into last season was well,

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Speaker 2: you're just positioning yourself to get Bryce Young, You're just

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Speaker 2: positioning yourself to get another quarterback.

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Speaker 3: It's like, you just think.

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Speaker 2: About all of the things that the front office saw,

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Speaker 2: and the front office and Dan Campbell obviously as well,

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Speaker 2: but like all of the things that they have done

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Speaker 2: to put themselves in position, whether it's to take a

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Speaker 2: that people thought they were drafting too high, that were injured,

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Speaker 2: that were whatever. It's an incredible story. As we've officially

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Speaker 2: hit halftime here, Kyle Lions up twenty four to seven

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Speaker 3: Just a stunning result overall.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I mean you think back to this Lions

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Speaker 4: team last year and you know, certainly the expectations coming

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Speaker 4: into the season after I think they won three games

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Speaker 4: the year before. You know, you talked about it, that

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Speaker 4: trade with the Lions and the Rams. You know, Matthew

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Speaker 4: goes to LA. It's a team with a crazy talented roster.

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Speaker 4: They clearly felt like the quarterback was the missing piece.

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Speaker 4: That's why they sent everything that they sent to Detroit

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Speaker 4: to get their guy. They go and win the Super

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Speaker 4: quite honestly, just ultimately disappear from from that point forward.

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Speaker 4: And they start last year. I think they started the

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Speaker 2: Aaron Torres filling in for Mark Whiller alongside Kyle Rudolph.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to chiefs Ravens in a second, but I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you this, It's about to be a cruel winter

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Speaker 2: for the San Francisco forty nine ers if they don't

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Speaker 2: Detroit in the first half second have about to kick off, Kyle,

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Speaker 2: Besides the obvious, don't give up seven yards per care?

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Speaker 4: Well. They get the ball here to start the second half,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's huge for Detroit. You know, San Francisco's doing

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Speaker 2: but it was Tom Brady, And that's the quintessential guy

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Speaker 2: that doesn't make mistakes, doesn't beat himself, both with the

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Speaker 2: New England Patriots and with the Tampa Bay Bucks. I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you what, Kyle, want to continue this conversation. Want

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Speaker 2: to continue the conversation on the first game this afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Kansas City headed to another Super Bowl. We will do

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Speaker 2: that next before, but for the first time this evening.

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Speaker 2: Steve Desager, what's trending?

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Speaker 3: Hello, gentlemen.

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Speaker 6: It's early third quarter at San Francisco. Lions are leading

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Speaker 6: the Niners twenty four to seven in the NFC Championship Game.

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Speaker 6: San Francisco. On the opening drive of the second half

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Speaker 6: is driven down to the Detroit twenty five, but then

446
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Speaker 6: brock Perdy threw a couple of incompletions Jake Moody's lining

447
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Speaker 6: up for a field goal to make it twenty four

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Speaker 6: to ten. What a start for the road team in

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Speaker 6: this game. Lions got the ball first and in four

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Speaker 6: plays they drove seventy five yards for the TD and

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Speaker 6: the seven to nothing lead. Jake Moody missed a field

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Speaker 6: goal first half opening drive for the San Francisco offense,

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Speaker 6: and then Detroit came back with another touchdown drive and

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Speaker 6: a fourteen to nothing lead in the first quarter. It

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Speaker 6: is now twenty four to ten. Moody has connected on

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Speaker 6: a forty three yard field goal. The only other score

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Speaker 6: for San Francisco in the game Christian McCaffrey's two yard

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Speaker 6: touchdown run. But Detroit is out rushing San Francisco in

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Speaker 6: this game one forty eight to forty five. In fact,

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Speaker 6: Detroit in the first half average six and a half

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Speaker 6: yards per play. Total yardage is about two eighty to

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Speaker 6: one eighty right now, nearly two to one advantage in

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Speaker 6: first downs twenty four to ten for the visiting Lions

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Speaker 6: in the NFC Championship game. As for the earlier contest,

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Speaker 6: the AFC title Tilts. Kansas City won it again, beating

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Speaker 6: the Ravens at top seed at Baltimore seventeen to ten.

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Speaker 6: It was a seventeen to seven lead at the half.

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Speaker 6: Lamar Jackson one touchdown, pass, one interception, one fumble. He

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Speaker 6: was sacked four times. Jackson with eight carries fifty four yards.

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Speaker 6: Travis Kelcey was targeted eleven times and had eleven catches

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Speaker 6: one hundred and sixteen yards and a score. And the

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Speaker 6: Chiefs did not have their all Pro guard Joe Tooney

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Speaker 6: did not play and he's considered a long shot for

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Speaker 6: the Super Bowl with that pectoral injury. Kansas City linebacker

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Speaker 6: Willie Gay was inactive with a neck injury. In the NBA,

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Speaker 6: Detroit got a rare win beating Oklahoma City one twenty

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Speaker 6: to one.

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Speaker 3: Oh four.

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Speaker 6: Pistons record now six and forty. Indiana defeated Memphis won

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Speaker 6: sixteen to one ten. Also in the NBA, the Phoenix

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Speaker 6: Suns are in action right now against the Orlando Magic.

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Speaker 6: That game is under two minutes to go and Orlando

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Speaker 6: has taken a one ten to ninety six league despite

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Speaker 6: forty four points from Devin Booker earlier in college hoops,

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Speaker 6: UAB at home beat nineteenth ran Memphis ninety seven eighty

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Speaker 6: eight Memphis Tigers now four and three in the American

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Speaker 6: Conference NHL Saint Louis in overtime beat the Kings four

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Speaker 6: to three. Guys, it's twenty four to ten Detroit leading

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Speaker 6: at San Francisco, early third quarter of the NFC Championship Game.

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Speaker 6: You mentioned that the Niners don't have a lot of

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Speaker 6: those comeback wins. In fact, the last two seasons, when

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Speaker 6: the Niners are down fourteen or more at any point

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Speaker 6: in in the game, they have yet to win the

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Speaker 6: last two years in that situation.

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Speaker 3: And I didn't mention the name.

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Speaker 6: Amanas Saint Brown, but again he showed himself to be

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Speaker 6: an all pro. In the first half for Detroit, five catches,

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Speaker 6: seventy three yards. All five catches went for first downs.

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Speaker 6: Four of the five were on third downs. He converted

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Speaker 6: a third and seven, a third and nine, third and ten,

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Speaker 6: and a third and eighteen at San Francisco.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, thank you very much, Steve Seger, Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio, Fox Sports Sunday, Mark Willard is out, Aaron

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Speaker 2: Torres in alongside Kyle Rudolph. Let's get back to the

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Speaker 2: first game, Kyle, really quick. We are in a commercial

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Speaker 2: break here, Detroit up twenty four to ten.

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Speaker 3: We'll keep you updated there.

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Speaker 2: I want to ask you so, like, I don't think

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Speaker 2: this is the sexiest topic of conversation when it comes

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Speaker 2: to Casey Baltimore, but I think it's an important one

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Speaker 2: besides the Baltimore miscues, which we'll get into throughout the show,

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Speaker 2: because I think it speaks for itself to me, the

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Speaker 2: story of this playoffs and listen, I get it, it's Mahomes.

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Speaker 3: He's a legend.

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Speaker 2: He's uh, you know, doing stuff at this point in

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Speaker 2: his career that's never been done. Like, I get all that,

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Speaker 2: but when I watched the Chiefs the last two weeks,

518
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Speaker 2: gave up last week zero points in the second half

519
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Speaker 2: to the Buffalo Bills, gave up three points today in

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Speaker 2: the second half to the Baltimore Ravens, and that was

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Speaker 2: late in the game. Basically three points really the last

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Speaker 2: three quarters of the game. I think, to me, the

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Speaker 2: story of this team. It's not to say like, oh,

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Speaker 2: Mahomes is overrated or anything, but like, I don't feel

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Speaker 2: like people talk enough about this defense because it just

526
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Speaker 2: feels like You're going up against two elite guys Josh Allen,

527
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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson back to back weeks in the second half,

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Speaker 2: you give up a combined three points. To me, that reason,

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Speaker 2: more than any is why they're headed to the super

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Speaker 2: Bowl two weeks from now in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 4: Aaron and kind of all year long when everyone wanted

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Speaker 4: to talk about this Kansas City Chiefs team and what's

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Speaker 4: wrong with the offense, everyone wanted to talk about the

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Speaker 4: lack of of explosive playmaking ability from the wide receiver room,

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Speaker 4: the drops from the wide receiver room, the penalties in

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Speaker 4: the wide receiver room, and really what was happening was

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Speaker 4: this Kansas City Chiefs defense was just buying them time

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Speaker 4: to figure it out. And I just kept saying week

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Speaker 4: after week, you know, it's It's something that we talked

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Speaker 4: about all year last year as well as soon as

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Speaker 4: Tyreek Hill was gone. How is this Kansas City offense

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Speaker 4: going to replace that explosive playmaking ability that you no

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Speaker 4: longer have? Then this year, same thing. They don't have

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Speaker 4: anyone on the outside to take the pressure off Travis Kelce.

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Speaker 4: Not once did we talk about the identity of this

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty three Kansas City Chiefs football team, being that

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Speaker 4: they have one of the best defenses in football, and

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Speaker 4: what that Steve Spagnola led defense allowed to happen over

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Speaker 4: the course of the last two and a half months

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Speaker 4: or so for this Kansas City Chiefs offense to find

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Speaker 4: their identity and to figure out that, Okay, look, maybe

552
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Speaker 4: over the last few years we could be cute and

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Speaker 4: have these funny huddles and formations and trick plays, because

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Speaker 4: quite honestly, if it doesn't work, who cares. We score

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Speaker 4: points at such an explosive rate that we'll make up

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Speaker 4: for and if we're down in the second half, it

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Speaker 4: doesn't matter regular season playoffs. We have Patrick Mahomes, we

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Speaker 4: have this high powered offense. We'll figure it out. We'll

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Speaker 4: score enough points and ultimately we'll move on. Well, late

560
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Speaker 4: in the year, you saw them make some of those

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Speaker 4: mistakes and they couldn't overcome that from an offensive standpoint.

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Speaker 4: So what I saw today from the Kansas City Chiefs

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Speaker 4: is they finally realized over the last two weeks, this

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Speaker 4: is how we have to be on offense. We're now

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Speaker 4: going to compliment this defense that's playing at such a

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Speaker 4: high level, and it's just it was brilliant from Patrick

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Speaker 4: Mahomes today, thirty of thirty nine. You know, if people

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Speaker 4: would have said, you know, Patrick Mahomes AFC Championship stat line,

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Speaker 4: he throws for two forty one in a touchdown, You're

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Speaker 4: gonna be like they lose the game, Like that's not

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Speaker 4: how the Kansas City Chiefs win.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought you were gonna go opposite there and say,

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Speaker 2: if you told me he went thirty for thirty nine,

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Speaker 2: you'd be like, oh, offense is fixed. They put up

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Speaker 2: forty five, They're going to Vegas, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, No, And it's like, you look at it. He

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Speaker 4: did exactly what he had to do. Starts the game.

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Speaker 4: I think it was eleven for eleven taking completions. It

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Speaker 4: wasn't the home runs that we were accustomed to seeing

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Speaker 4: from the Kansas City Chiefs offense over the last few years.

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Speaker 4: I mentioned Pacheco before and his you know, efficient run

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Speaker 4: of the football, having almost seventy yards rushing in a touchdown,

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Speaker 4: and he just gives them that physicality and power run

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Speaker 4: game that you know, quite honestly, that's not what we're

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Speaker 4: used to seeing from the Kansas City Chiefs. We're used

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Speaker 4: to seeing sideline, the sideline speed. Usually Mahomes is the

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Speaker 4: one scrambling to run the football. So again, you got

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Speaker 4: to give this Kansas City Chiefs defense credit, certainly what

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Speaker 4: they did the last two weeks, locking down Baltimore, or

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Speaker 4: excuse me, locking down Buffalo after they ran the football

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Speaker 4: all over him in the first half last week, and

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Speaker 4: then coming out today and holding this high powered Baltimore

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Speaker 4: offense to only ten points, three of which came in

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Speaker 4: the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 3: Three of which came in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 2: Kansas City beats Baltimore seventeen to ten to advance to

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Speaker 2: another Super Bowl the fourth and fifth years.

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Speaker 3: I believe the.

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Speaker 2: Stat is they're only the third team ever to go

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Speaker 2: ahead and do that. So an incredible win, an incredible run,

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Speaker 2: and we're just getting started here. Aaron Torres and Kyle

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Speaker 2: Rudolph in I'm obviously myself Aeron Torres in for Mark Willard.

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Speaker 2: Also keeping the updated on the late game the NFC

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Speaker 2: Championship game in San Francisco. The Detroit Lions up twenty

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Speaker 2: four to ten, seven point forty left in the third quarter.

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Speaker 2: It does look like though Detroit potentially held to a

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Speaker 2: field goal after San Francisco gets a field goal.

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Speaker 3: We'll see what happens here. Tell you what Kyle will

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Speaker 3: come back.

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Speaker 2: I have one more thought on the Kansas City side

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Speaker 2: of things and a narrative that needs to be put

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Speaker 2: to bed forever. We'll discuss that as well as keep

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Speaker 2: you updated on the late game in San Francisco. Ertorus,

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Speaker 2: Kyle Rudolph busy Sunday Night, Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. Er torres in for Mark Willard alongside

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Speaker 2: Kyle Rudolph. Kyle, We've got ourselves a situation out in

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Speaker 2: San Francisco. San Francisco trailing twenty four to ten. Brock

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Speaker 2: Purty throws a deep ball. There's a dust up between

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Speaker 2: Brandon Ayuk and I believe CJ. Johnson Gardner and I

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Speaker 2: bring it up because they were going They did call

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Speaker 2: a defensive PI at the end of the play, but

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Speaker 2: it got tipped in the air. Brandon, I you caught

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Speaker 2: it on about the five or six yard line San

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Speaker 2: Francisco in the red zone, trailing twenty four to ten,

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Speaker 2: five minutes left.

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Speaker 3: We got ourselves a little situation here.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be third and goal to go as San

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Speaker 2: Francisco tries to get into the end zone again.

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Speaker 4: Unbelievable body controlled by Brandon Aiyuk to not just give

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Speaker 4: up on the play like you know, and most receivers,

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Speaker 4: you know, you have the DPI, you feel the contact,

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Speaker 4: you know you can't get to the football. It's very

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Speaker 4: easy to just give up on the ball at that point.

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Speaker 4: It's a spot foul. Uh, the ball will go right there.

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Speaker 4: And for him to not only play through the contact,

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Speaker 4: but to track down the tip ball, it looked like

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Speaker 4: a touchdown. It looked like a touchdown at first, and

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Speaker 4: then ultimately they showed the replay slow it down and

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Speaker 4: you know there was contact made and this huge stop

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Speaker 4: from Detroit.

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Speaker 2: Well, any Detroit fan listening, I hate to ruin the moment,

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Speaker 2: it was not a stop. As Brock Perdy finds Brandon

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Speaker 2: Ayuk in the back of the end zone. Twenty four

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Speaker 2: to sixteen, extra point pending. We got ourselves a football

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Speaker 2: game in San Francisco for people just joining us. Detroit

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Speaker 2: was up twenty four to seven at the half, San

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Speaker 2: Francisco comes out and kicks a field goal on the

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Speaker 2: opening drive, and again a defensive pass interference, tipped pass

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Speaker 2: caught by Brandon Ayuk on about the six seven yard line.

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Speaker 2: They have now got it into the end zone and

656
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Speaker 2: the extra point is good. So we got ourselves a

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Speaker 2: ballgame here, twenty four to seventeen.

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Speaker 3: Kyle, I don't know what else there is to say.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know this, listen, you know this is

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Speaker 2: these are all these guys are all professionals. You know,

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00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 2: stuff changes really quick. But you know, you talk about

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Speaker 2: a game that was seemingly over about probably twenty minutes

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Speaker 2: ago in real time, Hod, Kyle, Now it's a one

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Speaker 2: possession game. Obviously Detroit will get the ball back five

665
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Speaker 2: seventeen left in the third quarter. That thing flipped quickly,

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Speaker 2: my man, that thing quick foot plea. That thing quick

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Speaker 2: flipped quickly, for sure.

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Speaker 4: So no doubt about it. And exactly what we talked

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Speaker 4: about in terms of San Francisco and how you know

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Speaker 4: they have to start this second half. Uh, they go

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Speaker 4: down and get the field goal first. Then Detroit. We

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Speaker 4: talked about Dan Campbell. His aggressive nature on the fringe

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Speaker 4: of field goal range probably could have win for the

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Speaker 4: field goal and said they go for it on fourth

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Speaker 4: and short. You know, the ball delivered a little bit

676
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Speaker 4: off target, but very catchable for Josh Reynolds, and you

677
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 4: know that that fourth down could be the turning point

678
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Speaker 4: in the game. You know, if he catches that, you

679
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Speaker 4: know you're definitely in field goal range with a chance

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Speaker 4: to go up twenty seven to ten. Now, ultimately you're

681
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Speaker 4: looking at a ten point swing to whereas you turn

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Speaker 4: the ball over on the forty nine ers hit the

683
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Speaker 4: explosive play in the past game, and we got a

684
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Speaker 4: ball game. You know, we heard it there over the break.

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Speaker 4: The forty nine ers have not won a game the

686
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Speaker 4: last two years down fourteen points, but turn the ball

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Speaker 4: over on downs and giving up explosive plays like that

688
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Speaker 4: is a recipe for a disaster for this Detroit Lions

689
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Speaker 4: if they want to protect this lead really quickly.

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Speaker 2: I want to go back to the early game as

691
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Speaker 2: the King City Chiefs are headed to another Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: First of all, can you just put in perspective, I mean,

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Speaker 2: besides like like we all sit there and say, like, oh,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's incredible four super Bowls five year, Like,

695
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Speaker 2: you know, six straight AFC championship games. But I think

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Speaker 2: the thing to me that I hear from guys like you,

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Speaker 2: their former players, is like the wear and tear that

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Speaker 2: comes with a deep playoff run, a super Bowl run.

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Speaker 2: It's why so often it's so hard for a team

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Speaker 2: to get back there. We hear about the Super Bowl curse,

701
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Speaker 2: you know, injuries and then obviously attrition. As you said

702
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Speaker 2: earlier in the show, you lose a guy like Tyreek Hill,

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Speaker 2: is there any way for you to textualize like what

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Speaker 2: for them to keep doing it over and over? And

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Speaker 2: I know again this year is different, as we just

706
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Speaker 2: talked about. It's a little bit more of a of

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Speaker 2: a defensive type team, a run game type team. It

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Speaker 2: isn't the vertical passing game that we've seen in the past,

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Speaker 2: but like it just it is still stunning to think

710
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Speaker 2: about six straight AFC Championship games now a four Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl in five seasons.

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Speaker 4: You know, I never thought we would see a dominant

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Speaker 4: run like we saw for the New England Patriots. You know,

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Speaker 4: from two thousand and ten to two thousand nineteen, I

715
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 4: think you know, they went to ten straight AFC Championship games.

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Speaker 4: It was like every year they were in the AFC

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Speaker 4: Championship game with a chance to go to the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: And honestly, when when when Tom left New England and

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Speaker 4: moved on, you know, I never thought we would see

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Speaker 4: a dominant organization like that again because it is so hard.

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Speaker 4: The league is set up for parody. They they want

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Speaker 4: team to have competitive balance from one to thirty two,

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Speaker 4: and things are set up to prevent organizations from going

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Speaker 4: to six straight AFC Championship games. And one thing that

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Speaker 4: people don't realize. So twenty eighteen, Patrick Mahomes becomes the

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Speaker 4: starter full time. You know, his rookie year, he started

727
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Speaker 4: one meaningless game at the end of the year when

728
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Speaker 4: they already had their seed locked. In twenty eighteen, he

729
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Speaker 4: becomes the full time starter. And that year Tom Brady

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Speaker 4: threw a pick on third and ten the game was

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Speaker 4: over and defod lined up offsides they should if it's

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Speaker 4: up for if it's up to Patrick Mahomes as a starter,

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Speaker 4: he would be five out of six going to Super Bowls,

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Speaker 4: not just going to six straight AFC Championship games. So

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Speaker 4: if D four just lines up on sides on that

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Speaker 4: third and ten with about a minute to go in

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Speaker 4: the fourth quarter, the game's over. Kansas City's going to

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Speaker 4: play the Rams and that Super Bowl, and we know

739
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Speaker 4: how that game played out was so low scoring. It's

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Speaker 4: just it's crazy to think back to that AFC Championship

741
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Speaker 4: game his first year as a starter. And the run

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Speaker 4: itself is impressive enough, going four out of five years,

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Speaker 4: but when you think back to that game in twenty

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Speaker 4: eighteen and how it ended. Ultimately, New England goes down

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Speaker 4: and scores, they get the ball to start overtime and

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Speaker 4: they score and they go walk off win at Arrowheads.

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Speaker 4: So what they've done in Kansas City the last six

748
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Speaker 4: years is incredible, and I thought we would never see

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Speaker 4: it again.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, Kyle.

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Speaker 2: We have a developing situation in San Francisco here as

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Speaker 2: you were talking, as you were answering that question, a

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Speaker 2: Jamir Gibbs fumble deep in Detroit's own territory was recovered

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Speaker 2: by San Francisco. So for people just joining us, San

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Speaker 2: Francisco trail twenty four to ten at halftime, kick a

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Speaker 2: field goal on the opening drive, a defensive pass interference

757
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Speaker 2: tipped pass to Brandon Ayuk sets up another touchdown. Now

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Speaker 2: a fumble right outside of the red zone deep in

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Speaker 2: Detroit's own territory has given San Francisco the ball, trailing

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Speaker 2: twenty four to seventeen.

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Speaker 3: As they are looking to.

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Speaker 2: Tie the game, Brock Party, Brock Party does run for

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Speaker 2: a first down deep into the red zone. Boy, oh boy,

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Speaker 2: oh boy, just when you thought this one was done,

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Speaker 2: just when you thought of.

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Speaker 3: Don't call or.

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Speaker 2: Text a Detroit Lions fan if you have one in

768
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Speaker 2: your life right now, because this is getting interesting, Kyle,

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Speaker 2: this is certainly getting interesting.

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Speaker 4: No, and they're doing exactly what they said we said

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Speaker 4: they couldn't do to start the second half. You know,

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Speaker 4: we talked about Dan Campbell in the locker room, probably

773
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Speaker 4: talking about come out, get a stop offense, clean football,

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Speaker 4: we can't turn it over, and there we go. We

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Speaker 4: got a turnover on downs and then the turnover in

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Speaker 4: their own side of the field. They're not good for

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Speaker 4: Detroit here to start the second half.

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Speaker 3: Not good for Detroit's Detroit.

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Speaker 2: Excuse me, San Francisco now on the one yard line,

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Speaker 2: we'll tell you what happens.

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Speaker 3: Detroit up twenty four to seventeen.

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Speaker 2: San Francisco driving our two next air tours in for

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Speaker 2: Mark Willardkyle rudof Fox on Tradio.

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Speaker 2: saga just told you, we got ourselves a ballgame in

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Speaker 2: San Francisco while we were away, A short Christian McCaffrey

794
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Speaker 2: touchdown run has tied the NFC Championship game up. For

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Speaker 2: people who are just joining us, if you somehow have

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Speaker 2: not heard any of this game, Detroit was up twenty

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Speaker 2: four to seven at a half, San Francisco opening a

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Speaker 2: field goal on the opening drive. From there, a Brandon

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Speaker 2: Ayuke touchdown reception after a long tipped pass play that

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Speaker 2: was caught by Brandon Ayuk on what was a defensive

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Speaker 2: pass interference, and then, as to say you're just told you,

802
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 2: a Jamir Gibbs fumble sets up the latest touchdown. We

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Speaker 2: got ourselves a type ball game Kyle Rudolph.

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Speaker 3: My, oh my, how quickly things could.

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Speaker 4: Change, No doubt. Momentum is a crazy thing in sports too,

806
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Speaker 4: and you know, you just see the way things are

807
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Speaker 4: going for Detroit right now. They couldn't do anything wrong

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Speaker 4: in the first half on offense, just executing falllessly in

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Speaker 4: the run game, in the pass game, working the middle

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Speaker 4: of the field in the past game, which is not

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Speaker 4: easy to do against the San Francisco forty nine ers defense.

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Speaker 4: And then really since that fourth and short, they just

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Speaker 4: have not been able to execute. Obviously, you have the

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Speaker 4: drop on fourth and short, then you have the fumble,

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Speaker 4: then they just had another drop. You know, Sam Laporta

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00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 4: can test to catch across the middle, Josh Reynolds with

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Speaker 4: another drop on third and ten. And here we are

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Speaker 4: the forty nine ers with all the momentum in the world,

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Speaker 4: and you know, for Detroit, they just can't seem to

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Speaker 4: do anything right on offense or defense. You know, trying

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Speaker 4: to get that first stop of the second half, you know,

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Speaker 4: just to slow the momentum down and potentially get your

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Speaker 4: offense the ball back at twenty four to twenty four,

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Speaker 4: let everybody on that sideline take a deep breath and

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Speaker 4: get back to doing what you did so well in

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Speaker 4: the first half.

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Speaker 2: I know it's tough to talk to fifty three guys

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Speaker 2: at once, but if you're Dan Campbell, what are you

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Speaker 2: telling your guys on both sides of the ball frankly

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Speaker 2: right now?

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean this, we talked about the mentality. You know,

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Speaker 4: this this is a game, that a situation that Dan

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Speaker 4: Campbell he's been brought there for and I feel like

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Speaker 4: over the last threes seasons, this is the type of

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Speaker 4: adversity that that gritty Detroit Lions almost want. You know,

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Speaker 4: they don't want to go to the Super Bowl easy, certainly,

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Speaker 4: I'm sure.

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Speaker 3: They didn't want to get up.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure they didn't want to just give up seventeen

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Speaker 4: straight points to start the third quarter. But it's like

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00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 4: it almost makes you think, Okay, is this Detroit Lions

842
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 4: team almost comfortable when you know it's got to be nitty, gritty,

843
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Speaker 4: grind it out late in the fourth quarter. You know,

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Speaker 4: we'll see you know, It's it's hard when when you

845
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Speaker 4: come out and play as well as they did early

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Speaker 4: and you have all the momentum and then for it

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Speaker 4: to just completely swing the other way and lose all

848
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Speaker 4: of it. It's it's tough to to, like you said,

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Speaker 4: talk to all fifty three guys that are out there

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Speaker 4: playing and ultimately get them to again calm down, take

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Speaker 4: a deep breath. Yes, it feels like this guy's falling

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00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:01,800
Speaker 4: and we're down seventeen points, but ultimately it's a tie

853
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 4: game late in the third quarter. Let's go out and

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00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 4: execute the plan and get back to the recipe for

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Speaker 4: success that we had the first two quarters.

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Speaker 3: We'll keep you updated on this one.

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Speaker 2: Twenty four to twenty four about a minute to go,

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Speaker 2: tie game, third quarter, NFC Championship game, really quickly. I

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Speaker 2: never really paid off the t's in our number one

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Speaker 2: about the Kansas City Baltimore game, and I said, before

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Speaker 2: he went to break, I said, there's a narrative that

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Speaker 2: we have to put to bed forever.

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Speaker 3: And I do think, well.

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Speaker 2: Until further notice, anyway, I do think it's so interesting

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Speaker 2: to me is that we keep trying to create rivals,

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Speaker 2: if you will, for Patrick Mahomes, I think this to

867
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 2: me is so interesting. Every year it's Josh Allen this,

868
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 2: it's Lamar Jackson that. And let's not say they're not

869
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 2: great players, great individuals. You know have their great moments,

870
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 2: but I guess, you know, technically Joe Burrow did beat

871
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 2: them in in an AFC championship game. But I just

872
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 2: think it's time to we just I know that we

873
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 2: want to create narratives, and we want to be interesting,

874
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 2: and we want to have our own unique individual ta.

875
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 3: This guy is doing.

876
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 2: Stuff, as we just talked about an hour ago or

877
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 2: in the last hour Kyle, that that I don't want

878
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 2: to say we've never seen because you know, Brady to

879
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 2: some extent did some stuff pretty similar. But he's doing

880
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 2: stuff that nobody else currently in the sport is and

881
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 2: I think we're all just so guilty of saying, Okay,

882
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 2: well where does he met?

883
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 3: You know what about Josh Allen? Is this his time?

884
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: Is this?

885
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 3: Lamar's time?

886
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 7: Is this?

887
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 3: That is it?

888
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 2: And it's just like every single time he rises to

889
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 2: the occasion. Jalen hurts last year. I love the NFL,

890
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 2: I love watching it, I love Josh Allen, I love

891
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:42,280
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson, but it's like Patrick Mahomes. I think again today,

892
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 2: with another trip to the Super Bowl for people just

893
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 2: joining us, Casey won seventeen to ten. I think this

894
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 2: guy just proved once again he is just in a

895
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:53,439
Speaker 2: complete class of his own. It is unbelievable to see

896
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 2: them go to another Super Bowl.

897
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 4: He is, and in order to have a rivalry, there

898
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 4: has to be competition. Yeah, someone has to beat him.

899
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 4: And I said it before, you know, in order to

900
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 4: take down the Kansas City Chiefs, you know, you can't

901
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 4: beat the Kansas City Chiefs and beat yourself. And you

902
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 4: know when when I look at the AFC quarterbacks that

903
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 4: we want to put in this Patrick Mahomes class that

904
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 4: you know, it's us in the media. We we want

905
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 4: that rivalry because it's good for sports. And quite honestly,

906
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 4: we see it in the regular season. Buffalo's i believe,

907
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 4: won the last three against Patrick Mahomes in the regular season,

908
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 4: but we have yet to see anyone outside of Joe

909
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 4: Burrow in the AFC Championship game take down Patrick Mahomes

910
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 4: in the playoffs. And you know, again, in order for

911
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:54,240
Speaker 4: us to start putting Joe Burrow, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson,

912
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 4: who knows, ultimately it might be Aaron Rodgers next year,

913
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 4: one of those guys in the AFC are going to

914
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 4: have to take him down in January in order for

915
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 4: there to be the beginning of a rivalry, because as

916
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 4: you said, right now, he is just in a league

917
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 4: of his own in terms of quarterbacks in the AFC.

918
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,280
Speaker 3: Can I I want to ask you a random question.

919
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 2: It's just it's a little bit out of left field,

920
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:21,720
Speaker 2: but it's something I was thinking about watching that game.

921
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 2: Does today's result make you feel any different about Josh

922
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 2: Allen and the Bills? And let me explain why, because

923
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 2: I was one of those guys. Now now, I thought

924
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 2: the Ravens were gonna win today. I did pick the

925
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 2: Chiefs last week. And not that anyone cares about my opinions,

926
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 2: but I bring it up because when the Bills did

927
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 2: what they did when they couldn't move the ball in

928
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 2: the second half last week. Obviously there's the missfield goal,

929
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 2: there's a mispass late from Josh Allen. I don't really

930
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 2: blame the loss on Josh Allen whatever, but I just

931
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 2: sat there and said, if you're the Buffalo Bills, this

932
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,959
Speaker 2: is unacceptable. You've been telling us for years you can't

933
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 2: get over the hump. I said, listen, I'm not mister

934
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 2: fire everybody, but I was like Sean mcder how many

935
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 2: times can we keep running this back over and over

936
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 2: and over and over and expecting different results. That's the

937
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 2: definition of insanity. I bring it up because to see

938
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 2: Kansas City essentially essentially execute the exact same game plan

939
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 2: today that they did against Buffalo, against a better team

940
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 2: I think of, certainly a more balanced team. When you

941
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 2: look at the Baltimore Ravens, the defense that they have,

942
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 2: the skill position guys that they have, I think we

943
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 2: could all agree Baltimore was a better team this year.

944
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,800
Speaker 2: It does kind of make me reevaluate how I felt

945
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 2: about the Bills a week ago because I sit there

946
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 2: and say, well, wait a second, now, the Chiefs just

947
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 2: did the exact same thing. Mahomes was great, Kelsey was great,

948
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 2: the defense, as we discussed in our one was great.

949
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 2: And it does kind of like make me reevaluate how

950
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 2: I feel about the Bills.

951
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 3: Am I crazy to think that, Kyle?

952
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 4: Not at all? You know, I think again, we just

953
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 4: kind of want to assume when you talk about the

954
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 4: Kansas City chief it's you know, superiority to everybody else,

955
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 4: and it's because of Patrick Mahomes. I think of when

956
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 4: you look at the completeness of this team over the

957
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 4: last two weeks and what they did, you know, I

958
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:18,240
Speaker 4: wouldn't say that Buffalo is more talented than the Kansas

959
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 4: City Chiefs, particularly as the year went on all the

960
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,479
Speaker 4: injuries that they had on the defensive side of the ball.

961
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 4: But Baltimore was for sure the superior team in terms

962
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,879
Speaker 4: of talent on both sides of the ball and what

963
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 4: they were able to do, you know, methodically across offense, defense,

964
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 4: and special teams to both of those two teams. You know,

965
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 4: I you got to give Buffalo credit the way that

966
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 4: they ran the football against that Kansas City Chiefs team

967
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 4: in the first half last week. It's something that Baltimore

968
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 4: wasn't able to do at all today. And you know,

969
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 4: Baltimore is a team that historically runs the ball on everyone.

970
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 4: So I do think you know, you got to give

971
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 4: the Kansas City Chiefs as whole a ton of credit

972
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 4: for the way that they're playing right now. The experience

973
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 4: that they have in the playoffs and just knowing what

974
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 4: it takes to win games to ultimately get back to

975
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 4: a fourth Super Bowl in five years. It's really incredible.

976
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 3: It is incredible.

977
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 2: The Detroit Lions and San Francisco Fortinite is keeping the

978
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 2: update on the late game. We are into the fourth quarter,

979
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 2: it is still tied twenty four to twenty four. Real

980
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 2: quickly before we get to break, I do want to

981
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 2: talk about the raven side of things momentarily, But one

982
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 2: last question on the Chiefs, and it is something I

983
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 2: texted you. How the heck does Travis Kelsey always get

984
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 2: wide open? For people who didn't see the game, he

985
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 2: did break Jerry Rice's all time receptionist record in the playoffs.

986
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 2: And you know one thing I always like to say

987
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 2: is I'm not a scheme guy.

988
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,280
Speaker 3: I'm not a scheme expert. It was like unbelievable.

989
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 2: Though It's like, Okay, obviously we know no Canarius Tony,

990
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 2: we know some of the other receivers are limited, and

991
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 2: it's like every play they throw to him and he's

992
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 2: pretty much wide open on every single play. U what

993
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:05,800
Speaker 2: is Andy Reid cooking up behind the scenes that nobody

994
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 2: has any answer for? Because it was unbelievable to see

995
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 2: Travis Kelsey continually get the ball time after time after time.

996
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 4: Well, I think there's there's one thing that people may

997
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 4: not or have not pointed out the importance of that

998
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:27,280
Speaker 4: offensive line and the health of that offensive line. Getting

999
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 4: Donovan Smith back on the left side who missed I

1000
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 4: think the last three games or four games of the

1001
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 4: regular season with a neck injury. So here here's the

1002
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:43,720
Speaker 4: deal with Travis. Travis is one of the most intelligent

1003
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 4: football players in terms of understanding leverage, understanding zone coverage,

1004
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 4: understanding where other defenders are going to be, not just

1005
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:59,839
Speaker 4: the guy that's covering him, and what that allows him

1006
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 4: to to do. Him and Patrick are always on the

1007
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 4: same page. They've obviously played together for the last six years.

1008
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:11,919
Speaker 4: No one is better at off the schedule plays than

1009
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 4: the two of them together. But what Travis does in

1010
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 4: terms of, you know, ad libbing during plays. You know

1011
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 4: it might be a corner out, but guess what when

1012
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 4: he gets up to ten to twelve yards and he's

1013
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 4: supposed to break to the corner, if there's a giant

1014
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 4: hole there in a soft spot in his zone, he's

1015
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 4: going to shut it down. And Patrick knows that he's

1016
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 4: going to shut it down. And they're always in sync.

1017
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 4: What they were not able to do the last few

1018
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 4: weeks of the year. You look at the Kansas City

1019
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 4: Chiefs offense down the stretch. Patrick didn't have time in

1020
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 4: the pocket to allow Travis to do what he does

1021
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 4: best and that's processed defenses, understand coverage, and find his

1022
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:58,240
Speaker 4: way to those wide open areas that we're now seeing

1023
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:01,399
Speaker 4: the last two weeks. So I think for that first

1024
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 4: and foremost, it starts upfront with Donovan Smith and the

1025
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 4: rest of those guys giving Patrick the time to not

1026
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 4: only allow him to have a clean pocket, take the

1027
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 4: drop when necessary, but then also be able to scramble.

1028
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 4: And when he has the ability to scramble with his

1029
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 4: eyes downfield, he's always looking for one guy and it's

1030
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 4: number eighty seven because of the trust that they have

1031
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 4: with one another. And I think that's the second piece

1032
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 4: of it, is the trust. You look at the touchdown

1033
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 4: that he threw to Travis with Kyle Hamilton on him.

1034
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 4: You know, Kyle Hamilton's right there, that's an all Pro

1035
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 4: safety in pretty good position, and yet Patrick doesn't think twice.

1036
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 4: He throws the ball where only Travis can make a

1037
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 4: play on it, and it's a huge touchdown in the game,

1038
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 4: one that I don't know if many other quarterbacks with

1039
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 4: throw to their tight end, and in that situation when

1040
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 4: you have an all Pro safety covering him, step far

1041
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 4: step down the sideline. So I think those are a

1042
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,399
Speaker 4: few things that go into it. It's it's a ton

1043
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 4: of fun to watch as from a tight end perspective,

1044
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:14,280
Speaker 4: seeing the different things that Trav does against coverage. And again,

1045
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 4: I don't understand if you're Baltimore and you go into

1046
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 4: that game you have a guy like Kyle Hamilton. I

1047
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 4: don't care what the other ten guys are playing. They

1048
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 4: can play man, they could play zone. I am making

1049
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 4: Travis Kelsey's life miserable for sixty minutes. He's gonna get

1050
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 4: hit by a defensive end coming off the line of scrimmage.

1051
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 4: He's gonna have almost a spy in Kyle Hamilton twenty

1052
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 4: four to seven, three sixty five. When Travis goes to

1053
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 4: the bench, I want Kyle Hamilton walk into the bench

1054
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 4: with him, like just follow him to the sideline. You're

1055
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 4: not allowed to do anything. It's almost the old box

1056
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 4: and one back in the day in elementary school basketball,

1057
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 4: when it's like they have one player that can score,

1058
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 4: you guard him the whole game. You got to take

1059
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes's top weapon away in the playoffs, make some

1060
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 4: of those other guys that aren't established beat you in

1061
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 4: these clutch situations. And we've yet to see it through

1062
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 4: two games in the playoffs.

1063
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 3: Well, we will. First of all, that was a great breakdown.

1064
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:22,760
Speaker 2: I appreciate you doing that, because, yeah, I'm just casual

1065
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 2: and I'm watching and it's unbelievable, uh, to just see

1066
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:27,919
Speaker 2: it time and time again, and I know there's there's

1067
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 2: obviously something that that he's doing beyond just him and

1068
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 2: Mahomes always being in sync. But Travis Kelcey again broke

1069
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 2: Jerry Rice's all time postseason receptions record today as Kansas

1070
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 2: City gets the win. Speaking of wins and speaking of

1071
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 2: the other game, the San Francisco forty nine Ers for

1072
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 2: the first time today just took the lead. A thirty

1073
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,799
Speaker 2: three yard Jake Moody field goal for the forty nine

1074
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,439
Speaker 2: Ers has put them up twenty seven to twenty four,

1075
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,479
Speaker 2: nine fifty two to go in the four fourth quarter.

1076
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:04,399
Speaker 2: For people just joining us, Detroit was up twenty four

1077
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 2: to seven at the half, seventeen points from San Francisco.

1078
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 2: In the third quarter. A field goal gives them a

1079
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 2: three point lead. When we come back, we'll keep you

1080
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 2: updated final few minutes on this NFC Championship game, and

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Speaker 2: we of course have to talk about the Baltimore KC

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Speaker 2: game from the Baltimore perspective. How much blame falls on

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Speaker 2: the future MVP Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 2: Mark Willard alongside Kyle Rudolph.

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Speaker 2: card limitations do apply, all right, Kyle, it's crunch time.

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Speaker 2: Detroit Lions have the ball for people just joining us.

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Speaker 2: Detroit was up twenty four to seven at the half

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Speaker 2: San Francisco twenty unanswered points and I already have to

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Speaker 2: correct myself because they just went for it inside their

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Speaker 2: own territory. Kyle, correct me if I'm wrong. I think

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Speaker 2: they were out of field goal range, Like, I don't

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Speaker 2: think that was a reasonable would about a forty eight

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Speaker 2: yard or per de Seger. So I'm be lying if

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Speaker 2: I said I'm super familiar with Detroit's kicker, Dan Campbell

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Speaker 2: has been aggressive.

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Speaker 3: He decides to go for it on fourth down. They

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Speaker 3: do not get it.

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Speaker 2: They give San Francisco the ball back up three seven

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Speaker 2: minutes to go.

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Speaker 3: Did you like the move to not kick the field

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Speaker 3: goal there, Kyle.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's just Dan Campbell being aggressive. I

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00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 4: don't love it it. You gotta take three points. I mean,

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Speaker 4: the goal in the NFL to get to a makeable

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00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 4: field goal is get to the thirty yard line. They

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00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 4: got right to the thirty yard line. Points are at

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Speaker 4: a premium. You haven't scored yet in the second half,

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Speaker 4: And like I said, it's it's hard at times when

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Speaker 4: you feel like all the momentums going against you, you

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Speaker 4: finally put a good drive together, you do get to

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Speaker 4: the thirty yard line. Ultimately you have a chance to

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Speaker 4: tie the game, and you don't convert on a fourth

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Speaker 4: down instead of taking the points. And again like that

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Speaker 4: missed fourth down almost feeds more into San Francisco's momentum,

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Speaker 4: giving them the opportunity to now take the ball. And

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Speaker 4: who knows, I mean, they they could quite possibly have

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Speaker 4: the ball for the rest of the game. It's not

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Speaker 4: out of the question, the way that they operate if

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Speaker 4: they couldn't hold onto this and and quite honestly put

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Speaker 4: it away with a big five minute touchdown drive here.

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Speaker 4: So again, I think you have to take the points. Obviously,

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Speaker 4: Dan has done it all year, going forward on fourth down.

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Speaker 4: It's something that quite honestly across the entire league all

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Speaker 4: year that has just drove me absolutely crazy with some

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Speaker 4: NFL head coaches decisions not to just take three points.

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Speaker 4: Mark and I have a running joke against the Los

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Speaker 4: Angeles Chargers and Brandon Staley.

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Speaker 3: And doesn't count.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I like him going forward on fourth down all

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Speaker 4: the time instead of just taking the three points. So

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Speaker 4: I just think I get it. I understand the aggressiveness,

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Speaker 4: but I think you also have to have a feel

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Speaker 4: for the game and the way things are going. You're

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Speaker 4: outscored twenty to nothing in the second half. Might be

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Speaker 4: a good opportunity for you to take three points and

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Speaker 4: get this game tied back up. I think it just

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Speaker 4: would would ease things on that sideline a little bit. Instead,

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Speaker 4: they're down three points. They got to get a stop

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Speaker 4: on defense before it gets worse.

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Speaker 2: Does it drive you crazy when people go for two

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01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 2: down eight? That's like the new analytics Darling No.

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Speaker 4: Like for instance, last week in the in the Bucks

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Speaker 4: Lions game, Tampa scored down fourteen, call it five or

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Speaker 4: six minutes left in the fourth quarter. Yeah, and you think, oh, well,

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Speaker 4: why would you just not kick the field goals? Then

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Speaker 4: you score again, you kick the field goal, and the

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Speaker 4: math actually works out that the odds are better to

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Speaker 4: go for two twice because it's like over fifty something

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Speaker 4: to percent that you're gonna convert the two point conversion.

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Speaker 4: And it's like if you get it the first time,

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Speaker 4: and then you set yourself up to go win the

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Speaker 4: game with an extra point, so that one I'm okay with.

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Speaker 4: I am a firm believer in waiting to go for

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Speaker 4: two until you have to. In terms of you know,

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Speaker 4: down eight points, you know, say you either miss an

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Speaker 4: extra point early in the game or just have a

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Speaker 4: couple of field goals. I do believe that you you

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Speaker 4: wait until either the second half, maybe even the fourth

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Speaker 4: quarter if possible, to go for that two point conversion.

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Speaker 4: Oftentimes I feel like teams do it too early in games.

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Speaker 4: But you know, again with the pat being back, you know,

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Speaker 4: at the fifteen yard line, and you know you get

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Speaker 4: the ball. Basically it's it's fourth and goal from the

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Speaker 4: two yard line. You know, there's that's pretty high probability

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Speaker 4: of scoring.

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Speaker 2: Well, Kyle, you mentioned the two yard line. How about

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Speaker 2: this San Francisco getting the ball back, driving the field.

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01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey just rips off a huge run to get

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Speaker 2: San Francisco to the two yard line. I think I

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Speaker 2: probably undersold that decision by Dan Campbell because I will

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Speaker 2: tell you this, we are gonna be the first ones

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Speaker 2: on air when this game goes final, and I have

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Speaker 2: a feeling that if San Francisco wins, and right now

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01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 2: it sure certainly looks like they're in great Bosi, that

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01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 2: is going to be the conversation. Detroit was down three

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Speaker 2: with whatever it is, you know, four minutes to go,

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Speaker 2: five minutes to go, chooses not to go for a

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Speaker 2: field goal. They go for it on fourth down and

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Speaker 2: San Francisco has officially crossed the goal line. They have

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Speaker 2: scored Elijah Mitchell with a short touchdown run. San Francisco

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01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 2: up thirty four to twenty four. Kyle, extra point pending.

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Speaker 2: Remember Detroit was up twenty four to seven at the half,

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01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 2: which means that San Francisco is now on a twenty

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Speaker 2: seven nothing run here in the second half. I'll tell

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Speaker 2: you what, Kyle, We're gonna come back. We're gonna react

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Speaker 2: to all of this. But there is so much trending

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Speaker 2: right now. I didn't do a good enough job of

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Speaker 2: explaining what happened with Dan Campbell there, so I'll toss

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Speaker 2: it over to the expert, Steve Disager, to say, you know, Disager,

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you this really quick. Disager and I were

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Speaker 2: on air for that Dallas Detroit debacle, and I bring

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Speaker 2: it up to Sager because it became about the reporting.

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Speaker 2: But how did the whole conversation start? Why did Dan

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01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 2: Campbell keep going for it on what you know? Why

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01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 2: did he keep going for two whatever?

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Speaker 3: Whatever?

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Speaker 2: So so the point I'm trying to make is we

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Speaker 2: were on air when that whole thing happened, and the

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Speaker 2: Dan Campbell over aggression cost them then it looks like

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Speaker 2: it may cost him now.

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Speaker 6: And isn't that night the reason why this game is

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Speaker 6: in San Francisco. San Francisco had the better conference record.

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Speaker 6: They finished with the same record as these other two

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Speaker 6: teams right in conference but that's why San Francisco got

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Speaker 6: the first run by oh my, San Francisco up thirty

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Speaker 6: four to twenty four, three h two left. In the

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Speaker 6: NFC Championship game. You talked about Dan Campbell always, not always,

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Speaker 6: but often going for it, very aggressive on fourth downs.

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Speaker 6: It's how they got It's how they got here. So

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Speaker 6: I agree with you that I disagree with these two

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Speaker 6: decisions not to kick the field goal in the second

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Speaker 6: half one, third quarter one four, But this is how

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Speaker 6: they got here. The in the regular season on fourth

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Speaker 6: down conversions, they converted over half of them, twenty one

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Speaker 6: to forty. In the wildcard game against the Rams, remember

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Speaker 6: Detroit had a touchdown pass on fourth down at the two.

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Speaker 6: They wound up winning the game by a point. The

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Speaker 6: Divisional a touchdown on fourth and goal at the one.

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Speaker 6: That was a one score game, but Detroit was up

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Speaker 6: twenty four to seven at the half. In this one.

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Speaker 6: You asked about the field goal kicker. It is Michael Badgley,

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Speaker 6: ex Charger, a guy who did make a fifty four

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01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 6: yarder indoors at home in that wild card game, and

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Speaker 6: they're saying no to him twice. But that's can't that

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01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 6: can't be the only thing that we talk about if

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Speaker 6: Detroit loses this, because that third quarter included not only

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Speaker 6: the huge lead, not downing upon at the one, dropping

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01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 6: a pass and turning it over on downs, fumble to

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Speaker 6: start the very next possession. That was enormous emotionally, not

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01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 6: just field position. And let's not forget the long pass

1242
01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 6: should have been could have been an interception by Detroit,

1243
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 6: hit the defender's face mask and Brandon Ayuk dives and

1244
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 6: makes the long catch, and then the fourth down that

1245
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 6: they can't convert. It was one thing after another. So

1246
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 6: we're under three minutes to go in the fourth quarter.

1247
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 6: San Francisco up thirty four to twenty four in this game,

1248
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 6: And if you talk about playoff comebacks, it's a pretty

1249
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 6: short list of teams in a postseason game that have

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01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 6: been up seventeen or more at the break and didn't

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01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 6: secure a win. We were on the air for one

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01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 6: of these when the Chargers had a twenty seven year

1253
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 6: a year ago. But how's about this from Associated Press.

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01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 6: In NFL history, teams leading a playoff game by at

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01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:47,440
Speaker 6: least seventeen at the half have a record of one

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01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 6: oh seven and six all time. Detroit was up twenty

1257
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 6: four to seven at the half, have not scored since

1258
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 6: this is the kind of disaster in the second half

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01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 6: that we'll go for a generation or more with Detroit fans.

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Speaker 2: Well, let me add this too, is I was thinking

1261
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 2: about this right before we went on air. Was right

1262
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 2: at the half and line up to kick a field

1263
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 2: goal before the half. I was wondering if they were

1264
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 2: gonna go for it before the half, just to try to,

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01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:18,640
Speaker 2: you know, shove it in their face. So the lack

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01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 2: of aggression stalel goal. Yeah, now the over.

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01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 3: Aggression, I don't We're gonna You're right.

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01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 6: This is a seventeen play drive Detroit had before halftime,

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01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 6: and they settled for about a twenty yard field goal.

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Speaker 6: That's why it was only twenty four to seven at

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01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 6: the half. And then Detroit's first drive of the second half,

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01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:41,080
Speaker 6: they went forward on fourth and two, would have been

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01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 6: a forty six yard field goal attempt. They threw incomplete

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01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 6: very next drive fumble on the first play this previous

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Speaker 6: drive we talked about where they went forward on fourth

1276
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:53,280
Speaker 6: and three instead of a forty eight yard field goal attempt,

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01:06:54,160 --> 01:07:00,040
Speaker 6: and now they're down ten. Unbelievable turnaround. I'll save my

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01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:02,439
Speaker 6: stat for the last because I haven't mentioned Kansas City

1279
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 6: at all. Chiefs are awaiting in Vegas. A couple weeks

1280
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 6: in the Super Bowl, the Chiefs beat top seeded Baltimore

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01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 6: to win the AFC seventeen ten. It was seventeen to

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01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:13,920
Speaker 6: seven at the half. Now, this debt nineteen fifty seven

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01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 6: in the Lions history gets talked about a lot this

1284
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 6: past year or two because the Lions had only won

1285
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 6: one playoff game since the nineteen fifty seven championship until

1286
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:27,439
Speaker 6: this run. How did they get to the NFL's championship game?

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Speaker 6: In nineteen fifty seven, they had a playoff game at

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01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 6: San Francisco and on that day, the halftime score was

1289
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 6: twenty four to seven Niners, and they blew that lead

1290
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 6: and the Lions advanced. Today in San Francisco, same two franchises,

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Speaker 6: It was San Francisco down twenty four to seven at

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Speaker 6: the break and now leading late unbelievable two minute warning,

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Speaker 6: thirty four to twenty four Niners. Christian McCaffrey twenty carries

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Speaker 6: ninety yards two touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: To you, Thank you very much, Steve Disager, Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday Championship Sunday Edition Arator is in for

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Speaker 2: Mark Wheeler alongside Kyle Rudolph.

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Speaker 3: Kyle, Uh, can.

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Speaker 2: I can I go off on a on a little

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01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 2: rant here? Can I can I get get angry for

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Speaker 2: half a second?

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01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:16,400
Speaker 3: You don't mind right when?

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01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:16,639
Speaker 4: Mark?

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01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 2: Okay, Mark's probably you know, so many drinks in right now,

1305
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 2: He's booking his flights to Vegas.

1306
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 3: He doesn't care.

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01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 2: It drives me freaking crazy when people do not understand,

1308
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:35,680
Speaker 2: like the whole like analytics in a nutshell is like

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01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 2: this is what you should do.

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Speaker 3: Basically.

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01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:43,599
Speaker 2: Context matters with everything. And I know you just talked

1312
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 2: about it before we got to Disager, but I just

1313
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 2: saw a tweet. I'm not trying to criticize this guy

1314
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:49,240
Speaker 2: because I don't know him. I'm sure he's a lovely guy,

1315
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 2: lovely husband, father, whatever. Bill Barnwell, ESPN. It seems bizarre

1316
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:58,720
Speaker 2: to spend all year lauding Dan Campbell for believing in

1317
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 2: his philosophy and his team for three years, having those

1318
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 2: fourth down decisions payoff over and over again for Detroit,

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01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:09,760
Speaker 2: and now insist that he should be kicking Listen, I

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01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 2: get that Detroit is here because Dan Campbell is an

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Speaker 2: aggressive guy. We love it. We all love it. We

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01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:17,679
Speaker 2: know his team loves him. We know as a former player,

1323
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:20,360
Speaker 2: I'm sure that you love the coach that believed in you.

1324
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:26,719
Speaker 2: To get that yard. Context has to matter. This isn't

1325
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 2: the third quarter against the Bears in Week six. This

1326
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:35,760
Speaker 2: is to go to the super Bowl. And oh, by

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01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:38,920
Speaker 2: the way, it's exactly what you just said. He and

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01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:41,760
Speaker 2: by the way, it's not like you're tied. There's just

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01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:45,040
Speaker 2: so much context that matters here. As Detroit is driving,

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01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:46,920
Speaker 2: they did cross the fifty yard line. They're at about

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01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 2: the twenty two to twenty three, but they're trailing ten.

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Speaker 3: Now. It drives me crazy.

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01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 2: To think that, well, I mean, he's always been aggressive,

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01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:58,880
Speaker 2: so this may no the context matters. You were down three,

1335
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:01,680
Speaker 2: it's a three point game with a trip to the

1336
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 2: super Bowl on the line. If you give the ball back,

1337
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 2: as you said, Kyle, you might not get it back.

1338
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:09,640
Speaker 2: The content the if this is who he is, this

1339
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:12,639
Speaker 2: is who he has to be. People are so dumb

1340
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:14,160
Speaker 2: and it bothers.

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01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 3: Me so much. Anyway, rant over, I just like.

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Speaker 2: I don't understand why people don't understand that context freaking

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01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:20,519
Speaker 2: matters in the situation like this.

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Speaker 4: I couldn't agree more and It's something that Mark and

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01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:27,520
Speaker 4: I talk about all year long when the term analytics

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01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:31,760
Speaker 4: gets brought up. And I've got two things on analytics

1347
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:36,320
Speaker 4: from a former player's standpoint. Analytics don't take momentum into account,

1348
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 4: thank you. They never have, they never will. And the

1349
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:45,760
Speaker 4: second thing, analytics are there to tell you what to

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01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 4: do to score the most points. People say, oh, well,

1351
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:52,120
Speaker 4: to score the most points that means to win the game. No,

1352
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:57,720
Speaker 4: it does not. Analytics tell you, in this specific situation,

1353
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:02,519
Speaker 4: what is the percentage to ultimately score the most points. Whereas, again,

1354
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:06,920
Speaker 4: you go into different situational football and having situational awareness,

1355
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 4: scoring the most points at that given time might not

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01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:14,559
Speaker 4: be what it takes to win the football game. And

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01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 4: when you're up twenty four to ten and it's fourth

1358
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 4: and two, three points puts you back up seventeen again,

1359
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 4: and probably about halfway through the third quarter, analytics are

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01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 4: gonna tell you to go for it. Because if you

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01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 4: go for it and you get the first down and

1362
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Speaker 4: you can get the touchdown, that's to score the most points,

1363
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:39,800
Speaker 4: not to stop the momentum where ultimately you turn the

1364
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:42,760
Speaker 4: ball over on downs, they get the ball right back,

1365
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:46,599
Speaker 4: they score again. Those three points there are huge and

1366
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:51,720
Speaker 4: it's like, okay, if we're gonna applaud Dan Campbell's aggression

1367
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:54,479
Speaker 4: and his nature to go for it. You brought up

1368
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:57,080
Speaker 4: a great point. Why is he not going for fourth

1369
01:11:57,160 --> 01:12:00,719
Speaker 4: and two at the end of the half, going halftime,

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Speaker 4: If you're gonna go forward on fourth and two, go

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Speaker 4: forward on fourth and two. There score the touchdown, go

1372
01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 4: up twenty seven to seven, and be up twenty points

1373
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:13,640
Speaker 4: instead of just the seventeen. But what he do He

1374
01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 4: took the three because he knew how important those three

1375
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:20,719
Speaker 4: points were. I would argue that the last two field

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01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:23,639
Speaker 4: goals that they passed on those three points were even

1377
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 4: more important than ultimately the four points they could have

1378
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 4: left on the board there in the first half.

1379
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Speaker 2: Yeah, by the way, very interesting scenario. Now there's a

1380
01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:35,080
Speaker 2: minute to go, they do have all three timeouts, they're

1381
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 2: on the one yard line, and it's fourth and goal.

1382
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 2: He'd better freaking kick the field goal here, because for

1383
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:44,759
Speaker 2: people who Detroit is down ten on the one yard line,

1384
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 2: he must have taken a time out, right, did he

1385
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:47,720
Speaker 2: take a time out?

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01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 7: Oh?

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01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, they said, they said he took a time out.

1388
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:54,599
Speaker 4: But I I don't understand now because now you're forced

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01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:58,400
Speaker 4: to kick it on side. They needed to keep that

1390
01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:00,680
Speaker 4: time out because again and then you could stop it

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01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 4: three times and make them punt. Now they have to

1392
01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:05,040
Speaker 4: not only score here, but they have to get the

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01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:07,960
Speaker 4: on side kick. If if San Francisco recovers the on

1394
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:10,760
Speaker 4: side kick, they can only stop the clock twice. It's

1395
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:12,479
Speaker 4: it's I don't know, I mean.

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01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 2: Well, and he's think he's not taking the points again.

1397
01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 2: They're lining up to score a touchdown unless I'm missing

1398
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 2: something compared.

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Speaker 4: No, he's lining up here to take the touchdown. And

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Speaker 4: I'm okay with this decision. Ultimately, you need a touchdown

1401
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 4: and a field goal, and you figure, we're already down

1402
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:28,479
Speaker 4: here on the three yard line, let's try to get

1403
01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 4: the seven now. But it's like, you know, those those

1404
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 4: timeouts were a premium, and it's like, ultimately, you know,

1405
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:40,280
Speaker 4: now they'll kick it off with fifty six seconds left,

1406
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 4: so they'll they'll bang the first time out. You know,

1407
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Speaker 4: there will be probably depending on how long the kickoff is.

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01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 4: You know, you get it down around fifty and then

1409
01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:55,639
Speaker 4: you know you're looking at less than ten seconds when

1410
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:57,759
Speaker 4: you get the ball back here because of that forty

1411
01:13:57,800 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 4: second runoff they're going to be able to take because

1412
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 4: you use that timeout there. I mean, it's not out

1413
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 4: of the question because they only need the three points,

1414
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:10,480
Speaker 4: but that timeout was huge. They really needed to execute

1415
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:12,640
Speaker 4: that two minute drill and keep all three timeouts in

1416
01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 4: their pocket because of the clock situation. Coming back out

1417
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:17,480
Speaker 4: of this this kickoff.

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01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:18,599
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what, Kyle, I hate to do this.

1419
01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 2: We do have to get to a break. We'll come back,

1420
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 2: we'll react a minute to go Detroit. He's going to

1421
01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 2: line up for the on side kick. We'll have coverage

1422
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:30,320
Speaker 2: one way or the other. That's next.

1423
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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio.

1424
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:34,640
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1425
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:38,040
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1426
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:42,280
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1427
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:43,080
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1428
01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:50,280
Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio Air Taurus Kyle, Rudolph

1429
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:53,880
Speaker 2: Bordop Lorena playing I left my heart in San Francisco.

1430
01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 2: There's a lot of Detroit Lions fans that have left

1431
01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:00,800
Speaker 2: their heart in San Francisco today. The clock has hit

1432
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:08,479
Speaker 2: one technically, but the game is over. The Detroit Lions

1433
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:15,080
Speaker 2: were up twenty seven twenty four to seven at halftime.

1434
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:20,880
Speaker 2: They have lost the NFC Championship Game. Thirty four to

1435
01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:25,760
Speaker 2: thirty one is the final score. The San Francisco forty

1436
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:27,320
Speaker 2: nine Ers to go to the Super Bowl. But Kyle,

1437
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 2: you know, listen, we got only a few minutes here,

1438
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:31,519
Speaker 2: but we're gonna spend most of hour three talking about this.

1439
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:34,599
Speaker 2: By the way, Kyle Rudolph in alongside Aaron Torres, Mark

1440
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 2: Willard is booking his trip to Vegas as we speak here.

1441
01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:42,760
Speaker 2: The San Francisco forty nine Ers are officially your NFC champions.

1442
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:45,920
Speaker 2: Thirty four to thirty one is the final score, and Kyle,

1443
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:48,519
Speaker 2: one of cool things about doing live radio, we get

1444
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 2: to be the first to react to this. Dan Campbell

1445
01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:54,719
Speaker 2: trailed twenty seven to Dan Campbell in the Lions trail

1446
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:57,760
Speaker 2: twenty seven to twenty four, about six minutes to go

1447
01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 2: in field goal reign, which he decides to go for

1448
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:04,800
Speaker 2: it on fourth down. Obviously, if they were to have

1449
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:08,680
Speaker 2: scored a touchdown, they would have taken the lead. Instead,

1450
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:15,200
Speaker 2: they do not convert the fourth down. San Francisco up

1451
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:17,839
Speaker 2: three points at that point, drives the length of the field.

1452
01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 2: They go up by ten. Detroit scores a touchdown late,

1453
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:25,400
Speaker 2: it is not enough. Dan Campbell's decision to go for

1454
01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:28,479
Speaker 2: it on fourth down. You can't say it single handedly

1455
01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:31,160
Speaker 2: cost four the Detroit Lions a trip to the super Bowl.

1456
01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 2: That we can't say that, but we can't question is

1457
01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:36,920
Speaker 2: should he have taken a field goal which would have

1458
01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:40,640
Speaker 2: tied the game about six minutes to go, rather than going.

1459
01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:41,559
Speaker 3: For it on fourth down?

1460
01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:46,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, and we'll hear about it for the next two weeks.

1461
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 4: You know, his decisions on both of those fourth downs

1462
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 4: to ultimately go for it. The first one, you know,

1463
01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:59,880
Speaker 4: Jared Goff does a great job moving around in the pocket.

1464
01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 4: You know, ultimately a tough catch from Josh Reynolds, he

1465
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 4: can't hold onto the ball. They turn it over on

1466
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:12,080
Speaker 4: downs and that was kind of the start of a

1467
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:16,400
Speaker 4: bad stretch of series for the Detroit Lions. Obviously, San

1468
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:18,160
Speaker 4: Francisco came out, we talked about it. What do they

1469
01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:19,680
Speaker 4: have to do in the second half to get back

1470
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:21,920
Speaker 4: in this game. It was go get points on the

1471
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:25,479
Speaker 4: first drive, you get the ball coming out, you're down

1472
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 4: twenty four to seven. Go get points and you'll be

1473
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:30,519
Speaker 4: right back in this game. So they go down, they

1474
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:39,439
Speaker 4: get the points. I know Dan Campbell's aggression and how

1475
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:42,680
Speaker 4: successful they were going forward on fourth down throughout the

1476
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 4: course of the year ultimately got them in this situation.

1477
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 4: But we talked about it before. Analytics, aggression, all that

1478
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:57,799
Speaker 4: kind of stuff. It doesn't take momentum and the flow

1479
01:17:57,880 --> 01:18:02,760
Speaker 4: of the game into a count. And I go back

1480
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:05,559
Speaker 4: to the first one. They come out to start the

1481
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 4: second half, they go get three points. You've got a

1482
01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:12,160
Speaker 4: chance at a forty six yard field goal to score

1483
01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:16,800
Speaker 4: three points and go back up seventeen and answer their

1484
01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:21,120
Speaker 4: opening drive of the second half, and okay, you don't

1485
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:23,320
Speaker 4: get it there. Then you turn the football over and

1486
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:25,800
Speaker 4: it's like, now things are really going bad. They just

1487
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:30,839
Speaker 4: scored back to back touchdowns. They've scored seventeen unanswered points.

1488
01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:34,439
Speaker 4: You now have another opportunity. You get the ball to

1489
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:37,000
Speaker 4: the thirty yard line. You can line up for a

1490
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:40,640
Speaker 4: forty eight yard field goal to tie the game, and

1491
01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:44,439
Speaker 4: you go forward again, and you know, I just obviously

1492
01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:46,320
Speaker 4: you look at the score right now. They'd love to

1493
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:49,080
Speaker 4: have those three points. But it's like, I'm a firm

1494
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:51,280
Speaker 4: believer if you're gonna be aggressive. It goes back to

1495
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 4: the the four points they left on the board before

1496
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:57,360
Speaker 4: the first half. Go forward on fourth and two there too,

1497
01:18:57,760 --> 01:19:00,519
Speaker 4: If you're gonna go forward on fourth down, go for

1498
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:03,479
Speaker 4: it every time, don't just pick and choose when those

1499
01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 4: three points are important. And I don't think that he

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01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 4: did that in this game.

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01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:09,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that.

1502
01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 2: I can't think of a great analogy, but it applies

1503
01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:15,600
Speaker 2: to anything, right, Like you can have a glass of

1504
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:19,439
Speaker 2: wine with dinner without getting hammered and drinking the whole bottle.

1505
01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:21,280
Speaker 3: Like like there's limits to everything.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that analogy even made sense, but

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01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 2: the point I'm trying to make is like there's limits

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01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:29,519
Speaker 2: to everything, there's context to everything, and I just don't like,

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01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:33,439
Speaker 2: you just can't sell me on Well, he's aggressive, this

1510
01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:35,240
Speaker 2: is who he is. You have to deal with it.

1511
01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:39,800
Speaker 2: It's like no, no, no context matters. And the Detroit Lions will

1512
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:41,519
Speaker 2: be thinking about that one for a long time. People

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Speaker 2: just joining us. San Francisco has won the NFC Championship

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Speaker 2: Game thirty four to thirty one after trailing twenty four

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Speaker 2: to seven. Tell you what, Kyle will come back another

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Speaker 2: hour to dissect this NFC Championship game preview the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: should be. For those of you who are just joining us,

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl is official. Kansas City wins the early

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01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:34,639
Speaker 2: game seventeen to ten. We didn't really get a chance

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01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:36,360
Speaker 2: to talk about that one very much, at least from

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01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:39,479
Speaker 2: the Baltimore perspective, Kyle, But we have to focus our

1531
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:43,960
Speaker 2: attention right now on the final in San Francisco, Santa

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01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:47,799
Speaker 2: Clara whatever. The San Francisco forty nine ers, which trailed

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01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:52,679
Speaker 2: twenty four to seven at the half, put up twenty

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01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 2: seven unanswered points to win the game thirty four to

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Speaker 2: thirty one. And let me, just for people just joining us,

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01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:05,599
Speaker 2: give me half a second, Kyle, to set it up Detroit. Listen,

1537
01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 2: they were up, they were in control, and and and

1538
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:11,480
Speaker 2: really just things just start going all sorts of sideways

1539
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:14,599
Speaker 2: for them give up a field goal early. Then there's

1540
01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:19,320
Speaker 2: a touchdown off of a tipped pass basically a tip

1541
01:21:19,439 --> 01:21:23,640
Speaker 2: pass pass interference falls into Brandon Ayuk's hands sets up

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01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:27,360
Speaker 2: another touchdown. From there, a Jamir Gibs fumble sets up

1543
01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:31,880
Speaker 2: another touchdown that gives San Francisco. At that point it

1544
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:34,559
Speaker 2: would have been a twenty seven to twenty four lead.

1545
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:38,880
Speaker 2: Late in the game, we are at let's see if

1546
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:41,160
Speaker 2: I can find it really quickly, about six minutes or

1547
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:41,960
Speaker 2: so to go.

1548
01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:44,120
Speaker 3: The Detroit Lions.

1549
01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:48,360
Speaker 2: They cross midfield and with let's see here, it's about

1550
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:51,360
Speaker 2: seven minutes to go. Forgive me. They trail twenty seven

1551
01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:54,840
Speaker 2: to twenty four. They have a fourth and three at

1552
01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:59,320
Speaker 2: the San Francisco thirty, which is what a forty six

1553
01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:03,759
Speaker 2: forty seven yard field goal or so. Dan Campbell chooses

1554
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:06,320
Speaker 2: instead of kicking the field goal, which would have potentially

1555
01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:10,000
Speaker 2: tied the game. Instead, he goes for it on fourth down.

1556
01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:13,880
Speaker 2: The fourth down is the conversion does not happen. San

1557
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:16,320
Speaker 2: Francisco drives the length of the field to go up ten.

1558
01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:19,799
Speaker 2: And then even when Detroit got the ball back, even

1559
01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:22,360
Speaker 2: when they got into the red zone on the verge

1560
01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:26,080
Speaker 2: of scoring for some reason, trailing two possessions with all

1561
01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:29,519
Speaker 2: three timeouts, they run a play up the middle on

1562
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:33,240
Speaker 2: third down, are forced to burn a timeout. They do

1563
01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:37,639
Speaker 2: get the touchdown, they do not get the on side kick,

1564
01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:40,639
Speaker 2: and they lose thirty four to thirty one. The big

1565
01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:45,280
Speaker 2: story dan Campbell electing to go for it on fourth

1566
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:48,280
Speaker 2: down with seven minutes to go trailing three. A field

1567
01:22:48,320 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 2: goal would have tied it. We're obviously monitoring for Dan

1568
01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:56,840
Speaker 2: Campbell postgame sound Kyle, But boy, oh boy, oh boy. One,

1569
01:22:56,880 --> 01:22:59,880
Speaker 2: you gotta feel terrible for Detroit fans. But listen, this

1570
01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:02,639
Speaker 2: is the topic right now, It's what everybody's talking about.

1571
01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:05,760
Speaker 2: What is your reaction to Dan Campbell's decision to go

1572
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:06,559
Speaker 2: for it onunfourt down.

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01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:10,920
Speaker 4: Aaron, Dude, do you like to play cards? You play blackjacket?

1574
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:13,880
Speaker 3: All, I'm not good at it, but yeah, I play

1575
01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:14,639
Speaker 3: here and there.

1576
01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:17,840
Speaker 4: So you know, like there's house rules and like it

1577
01:23:17,960 --> 01:23:19,880
Speaker 4: kind of tells you, like what the book tells you

1578
01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:23,120
Speaker 4: to do. Yes, important, you know what the dealer has,

1579
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:28,520
Speaker 4: what you have. That book is built off of percentages

1580
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:32,559
Speaker 4: and in order to get you know, like they say

1581
01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:35,880
Speaker 4: that the odds at the casino are about forty eight percent.

1582
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:38,640
Speaker 4: Now I like to play cards a little bit. You know,

1583
01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:40,639
Speaker 4: it's it's fun to sit there and you play by

1584
01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:42,800
Speaker 4: the book. You can win some, you can lose some.

1585
01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:45,760
Speaker 4: For the most part, it's a great way to occupy

1586
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:48,080
Speaker 4: a few hours hanging out with some buddies at a

1587
01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 4: blackjack table. As long as you play by the book,

1588
01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:54,960
Speaker 4: ultimately you have about a forty eight percent chance of

1589
01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:59,200
Speaker 4: you know, winning some money. You were asking for an

1590
01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:02,719
Speaker 4: analogy before or and you mentioned like, you know, drinking

1591
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:04,640
Speaker 4: a glass of wine every once in a while as

1592
01:24:04,640 --> 01:24:06,240
Speaker 4: opposed to you know.

1593
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:09,920
Speaker 2: Yeah Tuesday, Yeah, every time it kids to school at

1594
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:10,439
Speaker 2: seven am.

1595
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:13,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I have an even better analogy for you,

1596
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:17,280
Speaker 4: and I'm going to compare it to blackjack. Okay, So

1597
01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:22,280
Speaker 4: when when you have twelve versa two, so you've got twelve,

1598
01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:25,560
Speaker 4: the dealer showing too. There's they're sayings, And it's the

1599
01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:28,320
Speaker 4: same way when when the dealer has a ten, you

1600
01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:31,120
Speaker 4: know you have sixteen. Ultimately you're not going to beat

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01:24:31,160 --> 01:24:35,160
Speaker 4: that ten. So they tell you, like, oh, what does

1602
01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:39,240
Speaker 4: the book say? You know, do I stay? Do I hit? Ultimately,

1603
01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:42,760
Speaker 4: every dealer is going to tell you whatever you do

1604
01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:46,599
Speaker 4: one way or the other, if you're staying stay all

1605
01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:50,280
Speaker 4: night on that exact same situation, if you're going to

1606
01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:53,360
Speaker 4: hit it. If you're going to hit a sixteen versus

1607
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:57,200
Speaker 4: a ten, or a two twelve versus a two, you

1608
01:24:57,600 --> 01:25:00,599
Speaker 4: gotta hit it every single time it comes up, because

1609
01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:04,600
Speaker 4: you won't screw up the percentages if you hit it

1610
01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:08,760
Speaker 4: sometimes and stay sometimes. Now you're completely playing with the

1611
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:12,360
Speaker 4: percentage because now you're bringing two decisions into it instead

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01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:16,080
Speaker 4: of just one. So I'm gonna give you some percentages here.

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01:25:16,240 --> 01:25:19,479
Speaker 4: Over the last ten years in the NFL, fourth and

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01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:24,519
Speaker 4: two conversion rate fifty seven percent in the NFL fourth

1615
01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:28,360
Speaker 4: and three forty seven percent in the NFL. So it's

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01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:31,080
Speaker 4: about a little over fifty to fifty for fourth and

1617
01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 4: two and just under fifty to fifty for fourth and three.

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01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:38,360
Speaker 4: So I say all of that to go back to Dan.

1619
01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:41,840
Speaker 4: If you're going to be aggressive all year and you're

1620
01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:44,240
Speaker 4: going to go for it on fourth and two and

1621
01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:46,960
Speaker 4: fourth and three, and you decide that in the second

1622
01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:51,840
Speaker 4: half on fourth and two up fourteen points instead of

1623
01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:55,599
Speaker 4: taking the three and extending the lead to seventeen again,

1624
01:25:55,640 --> 01:25:58,439
Speaker 4: you're gonna go for it. I'm completely fine with it.

1625
01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:00,800
Speaker 4: If you're gonna go for it on fourth and three

1626
01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:05,400
Speaker 4: down three because you're aggressive and there's a forty seven

1627
01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:08,240
Speaker 4: percent chance you're gonna go for it. That's great. I

1628
01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:12,599
Speaker 4: go back to the first half. It's fourth and three

1629
01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:17,200
Speaker 4: on the three yard line. We just talked about the percentages.

1630
01:26:17,640 --> 01:26:20,400
Speaker 4: If you're going to do it, do it all the time.

1631
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:23,960
Speaker 4: Odds are you will have converted one of those three

1632
01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:26,240
Speaker 4: fourth downs if you added a third one in to

1633
01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:29,240
Speaker 4: the fourth and two and three. Odds are you say

1634
01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:31,559
Speaker 4: you converted one of them? And what does that do?

1635
01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:34,920
Speaker 4: It either adds four points in the first half that

1636
01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:37,880
Speaker 4: you left on the board or three points in the

1637
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:42,479
Speaker 4: second half. Ultimately they lose by three points thirty four

1638
01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:46,280
Speaker 4: thirty one. So I bring up the blackjack analogy. Dan,

1639
01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:49,360
Speaker 4: if you're gonna be aggressive, be aggressive all the time.

1640
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:51,640
Speaker 4: Go forward on fourth and three at the being of

1641
01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:54,360
Speaker 4: the first half. Don't decide at that point, Oh, these

1642
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:56,240
Speaker 4: three points are big, like we need to get make

1643
01:26:56,280 --> 01:26:59,479
Speaker 4: sure we have these three points. Well, seven points would

1644
01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:01,960
Speaker 4: have been even, and you never know how the game's

1645
01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:03,720
Speaker 4: gonna play out. So if you're gonna go for it

1646
01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:07,080
Speaker 4: and be aggressive in the second half, be aggressive all game.

1647
01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:07,880
Speaker 3: Real quick.

1648
01:27:07,920 --> 01:27:11,320
Speaker 2: A couple of things here for thoughts on that. I

1649
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:14,519
Speaker 2: uh so, a couple things that stand out to me. One,

1650
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:16,479
Speaker 2: so I obviously agree with everything that you said there.

1651
01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:17,559
Speaker 3: Two.

1652
01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:20,360
Speaker 2: By the way, you mentioned Brandon Staley earlier in the show.

1653
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:23,519
Speaker 2: That was when I was just out on Brandon Staley

1654
01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:27,200
Speaker 2: was year one, He's the analytics guy. We trust the numbers,

1655
01:27:27,240 --> 01:27:29,240
Speaker 2: We're gonna live and die by the numbers. And then

1656
01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:31,880
Speaker 2: of course we had that Sunday night game winning get

1657
01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:34,920
Speaker 2: into the playoffs, and the analytics just blew up in

1658
01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:37,280
Speaker 2: his face, and it was like then the next year

1659
01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:39,320
Speaker 2: he was like sort of the analytics guy, but he

1660
01:27:39,400 --> 01:27:41,000
Speaker 2: sort of wasn't the analytics guy, and he was a

1661
01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:42,880
Speaker 2: little bit more conservative. And I'm like, that was when

1662
01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:44,360
Speaker 2: I was out on Brandis Steady, because I'm like, if

1663
01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:47,280
Speaker 2: that's your philosophy, I don't have to like it, but

1664
01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:49,360
Speaker 2: at the same time, you gotta stick with it. And

1665
01:27:49,400 --> 01:27:51,320
Speaker 2: then obviously we saw from there he was a debacle

1666
01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:52,960
Speaker 2: for the last year and a half of his tenure.

1667
01:27:54,160 --> 01:27:56,679
Speaker 2: As far as as your percentages and everything you're saying.

1668
01:27:57,439 --> 01:28:00,840
Speaker 2: So I obviously agree with everything my is you know

1669
01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:03,639
Speaker 2: you said, I heard you say fourth and three forty

1670
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:07,360
Speaker 2: seven percent of the time. It converts where my concern is,

1671
01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:09,120
Speaker 2: and I agree with you one hundred percent. By the way,

1672
01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:10,760
Speaker 2: if if, if you're gonna go for it on fourth

1673
01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:12,320
Speaker 2: and three with a trip to the super Bowl on

1674
01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:16,040
Speaker 2: the line or a chance to tie an NFC championship game,

1675
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:17,880
Speaker 2: is probably the right way to put it. That's fine.

1676
01:28:18,320 --> 01:28:19,680
Speaker 2: But why did you kick the field goal in the

1677
01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:21,600
Speaker 2: first half? Why why didn't you Why didn't you go

1678
01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:22,720
Speaker 2: for it on fourth and three?

1679
01:28:22,760 --> 01:28:22,960
Speaker 6: There?

1680
01:28:23,360 --> 01:28:26,200
Speaker 2: So that that that that's I agree with you on that.

1681
01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:30,800
Speaker 3: My thing it is multifold. Is one.

1682
01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:36,160
Speaker 2: I think there's a difference between analytics h percentages, this

1683
01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:41,679
Speaker 2: and that and just being overly aggressive. That's one. But two,

1684
01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:45,559
Speaker 2: I also think context matters. I say this all the time.

1685
01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:50,479
Speaker 2: Analytics tell part of the story. They are not the story.

1686
01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:53,120
Speaker 2: And as you said last hour, it was a great

1687
01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:57,000
Speaker 2: point by you, analytics do not factor in momentum. Analytics

1688
01:28:57,080 --> 01:29:02,280
Speaker 2: do not factor in time moment home, road, weather, wind, whatever,

1689
01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:07,160
Speaker 2: it's just a blanket this or that. And so you

1690
01:29:07,160 --> 01:29:09,360
Speaker 2: know you said forty seven percent of the time fourth

1691
01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:11,360
Speaker 2: and three converts. Well, I don't know if you, I

1692
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:12,760
Speaker 2: don't know if you can pull this number up off

1693
01:29:12,760 --> 01:29:14,760
Speaker 2: the top of your head. What is the percentage of

1694
01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:17,639
Speaker 2: converting on fourth and three converting the fourth down when

1695
01:29:17,640 --> 01:29:19,519
Speaker 2: you're down three with the chance to go to the

1696
01:29:19,560 --> 01:29:21,600
Speaker 2: Super Bowl if you make the field goal, you know,

1697
01:29:21,680 --> 01:29:23,360
Speaker 2: and it's like and if you miss the field goal,

1698
01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:25,720
Speaker 2: you're giving the ball back with seven minutes to go,

1699
01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:28,960
Speaker 2: and they can potentially run. By the way, that's the

1700
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:32,760
Speaker 2: other thing nobody's talking about. We talked to lead this show,

1701
01:29:32,840 --> 01:29:36,040
Speaker 2: Kyle about how the Detroit Lions were running the ball

1702
01:29:36,320 --> 01:29:39,719
Speaker 2: down San Francisco's throat in the first half. Well, guess

1703
01:29:39,720 --> 01:29:42,080
Speaker 2: who was running the ball right at Detroit in the

1704
01:29:42,120 --> 01:29:45,519
Speaker 2: second half. And so these are all of the things

1705
01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:48,680
Speaker 2: that matter. San Francis Cisco, by the way, finishes with

1706
01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:51,360
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty five yards rushing almost five yards

1707
01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:51,880
Speaker 2: per carry.

1708
01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:53,439
Speaker 3: Most of it came in the second half.

1709
01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:56,559
Speaker 2: I just bring it up to say you cannot sit

1710
01:29:56,640 --> 01:29:59,360
Speaker 2: here and Blanket say, well.

1711
01:29:59,160 --> 01:29:59,839
Speaker 3: He's aggressive.

1712
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:03,080
Speaker 2: Well the analytics, well this, well that, as you said,

1713
01:30:03,120 --> 01:30:06,240
Speaker 2: it was such a great point. Analytics don't account for momentum.

1714
01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:10,240
Speaker 2: They don't account for the moment in time. What happens is,

1715
01:30:10,360 --> 01:30:14,240
Speaker 2: you know, is the team all of these things, San

1716
01:30:14,240 --> 01:30:17,120
Speaker 2: Francisco is running the ball, Well, they're at home, you're

1717
01:30:17,200 --> 01:30:19,360
Speaker 2: on the road. What is the what is the old

1718
01:30:20,040 --> 01:30:23,080
Speaker 2: Just by the way, it's not all Dan Campbell. I'm

1719
01:30:23,120 --> 01:30:24,800
Speaker 2: not saying it is. But at the end of the day,

1720
01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:27,080
Speaker 2: he was the one who made the decision. There's no

1721
01:30:27,120 --> 01:30:29,240
Speaker 2: guarantee that the field goal would have gone through whatever.

1722
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:32,200
Speaker 2: I get it. I love it. It's great the aggression.

1723
01:30:32,520 --> 01:30:34,599
Speaker 2: But you can't just sit there. And I'm not saying

1724
01:30:34,640 --> 01:30:36,479
Speaker 2: you are, but people are saying, well the blanket, Well

1725
01:30:36,479 --> 01:30:38,880
Speaker 2: he's aggressive all the time. This is who he is.

1726
01:30:38,920 --> 01:30:41,080
Speaker 2: You have to deal with it. It's like, I just

1727
01:30:41,320 --> 01:30:44,120
Speaker 2: don't buy that. There is a moment in time and

1728
01:30:44,160 --> 01:30:46,760
Speaker 2: a place for everything, and I just think this is

1729
01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:50,800
Speaker 2: not just kick the field goal. I don't know, I've

1730
01:30:50,840 --> 01:30:51,679
Speaker 2: rambled long enough.

1731
01:30:51,720 --> 01:30:52,800
Speaker 3: Just just kick the field goals.

1732
01:30:53,040 --> 01:30:56,000
Speaker 4: My rebuttal to that, Aaron would be like in not

1733
01:30:56,080 --> 01:30:58,880
Speaker 4: saying to your rebuttal to your comments, the rebuttal to

1734
01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:01,960
Speaker 4: the people, well he's aggressive of all the time. Well, no,

1735
01:31:02,120 --> 01:31:05,519
Speaker 4: clearly he wasn't, because he kicked the field goal on

1736
01:31:05,680 --> 01:31:09,160
Speaker 4: fourth and three right before the half. Because in his

1737
01:31:09,320 --> 01:31:14,120
Speaker 4: mind those three points and ultimately going up twenty four

1738
01:31:14,200 --> 01:31:18,600
Speaker 4: to seven, going up seventeen instead of fourteen, were important.

1739
01:31:18,680 --> 01:31:22,280
Speaker 4: So therefore he wasn't aggressive and he took this safe play.

1740
01:31:22,360 --> 01:31:25,320
Speaker 4: So again I say all that to be like, look,

1741
01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:27,720
Speaker 4: if if we're gonna let if we're gonna use the

1742
01:31:28,240 --> 01:31:31,720
Speaker 4: he's aggressive all the time as the get out of

1743
01:31:31,800 --> 01:31:35,479
Speaker 4: jail free card here, Well, then why wasn't he aggressive

1744
01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:37,640
Speaker 4: in the first half, Because again I go back to

1745
01:31:37,720 --> 01:31:41,439
Speaker 4: those four points and how that may have changed the

1746
01:31:41,479 --> 01:31:45,000
Speaker 4: outcome of things down the stretch, so to the to

1747
01:31:45,080 --> 01:31:47,880
Speaker 4: the media, to the fans, to everyone who says, well

1748
01:31:47,880 --> 01:31:51,520
Speaker 4: that's you know, go back to the two point debacle

1749
01:31:51,680 --> 01:31:56,040
Speaker 4: in Dallas where you know, ultimately they have the issue

1750
01:31:56,040 --> 01:31:59,080
Speaker 4: with Brad Allen. He completely screws it up. It's one

1751
01:31:59,120 --> 01:32:01,840
Speaker 4: hundred percent his vault. But at the end of the day,

1752
01:32:02,360 --> 01:32:04,400
Speaker 4: he should have kicked the extra point to tie the

1753
01:32:04,439 --> 01:32:07,320
Speaker 4: game when they had to go. And it wasn't fourth

1754
01:32:07,360 --> 01:32:09,639
Speaker 4: and goal from the two anymore. It's fourth and goal

1755
01:32:09,680 --> 01:32:13,320
Speaker 4: from the seven. Move the extra point from the fifteen

1756
01:32:13,360 --> 01:32:15,880
Speaker 4: to the twenty, kick the extra point and try to

1757
01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:20,599
Speaker 4: force overtime. So there's a point where he's aggressive all

1758
01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:25,000
Speaker 4: the time, becomes stubborn, and it's ultimately, you know, he

1759
01:32:25,120 --> 01:32:27,240
Speaker 4: makes up his mind that he wants to do something,

1760
01:32:27,280 --> 01:32:29,120
Speaker 4: and I feel like that happened a little bit in

1761
01:32:29,160 --> 01:32:31,320
Speaker 4: the second half, when all of a sudden it became

1762
01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:35,400
Speaker 4: I feel the momentum slipping. We need to get things

1763
01:32:35,439 --> 01:32:40,759
Speaker 4: turned around. Instead of taking the three points back, going

1764
01:32:40,800 --> 01:32:43,799
Speaker 4: back up seventeen in the third quarter with a forty

1765
01:32:43,800 --> 01:32:46,880
Speaker 4: six yard field goal and then ultimately in the fourth

1766
01:32:46,960 --> 01:32:50,400
Speaker 4: quarter tying it up thirty four to thirty four, he

1767
01:32:50,479 --> 01:32:55,280
Speaker 4: wanted to be aggressive, as can be, maybe a little

1768
01:32:55,280 --> 01:32:58,280
Speaker 4: bit stubborn. We're gonna keep going here, We're gonna take

1769
01:32:58,320 --> 01:33:00,840
Speaker 4: the lead now, or we're gonna extend the lead even

1770
01:33:00,920 --> 01:33:05,599
Speaker 4: further than just seventeen points. So again, I I could

1771
01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:08,680
Speaker 4: not agree more. It's the it's my rebuttal to analytics

1772
01:33:08,720 --> 01:33:13,960
Speaker 4: all the time that they're they don't take momentum into account.

1773
01:33:14,280 --> 01:33:16,519
Speaker 4: It's not a moment in time during the course of

1774
01:33:16,560 --> 01:33:19,320
Speaker 4: a game, and it ultimately is telling you how to

1775
01:33:19,360 --> 01:33:23,160
Speaker 4: score the most points. And who knows, if they kick

1776
01:33:23,280 --> 01:33:27,559
Speaker 4: that field goal there and go from twenty four to

1777
01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:31,200
Speaker 4: ten to twenty seven to ten, you know, thirty one

1778
01:33:31,280 --> 01:33:33,880
Speaker 4: points might have been enough for them to win this game.

1779
01:33:34,320 --> 01:33:37,160
Speaker 4: Analytics would have said that, you know, they ultimately need

1780
01:33:37,160 --> 01:33:39,320
Speaker 4: to go for it there to score more than thirty

1781
01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:41,960
Speaker 4: one points, but if you get that three points, you're

1782
01:33:42,040 --> 01:33:45,720
Speaker 4: up seventeen. Instead, you're not giving the ball right back

1783
01:33:45,760 --> 01:33:48,400
Speaker 4: to them to go score seven points. You're kicking it off.

1784
01:33:48,680 --> 01:33:51,040
Speaker 4: Your defense is like, hey, you know yet, we gave

1785
01:33:51,120 --> 01:33:53,400
Speaker 4: up a field goal drive there, let's get back into it.

1786
01:33:53,439 --> 01:33:57,120
Speaker 4: They're regrouping. Instead, you're reeling at the end of the game,

1787
01:33:57,680 --> 01:34:01,200
Speaker 4: and ultimately you give up seventeen points in the third quarter.

1788
01:34:01,320 --> 01:34:08,160
Speaker 4: So again, I'm I'm always always out on straight analytical decisions.

1789
01:34:08,240 --> 01:34:14,120
Speaker 4: I think that situational football momentum so much more has

1790
01:34:14,160 --> 01:34:17,960
Speaker 4: to be factored into decisions that a head coach makes

1791
01:34:17,720 --> 01:34:19,759
Speaker 4: in big games in the NFL.

1792
01:34:20,080 --> 01:34:22,040
Speaker 3: Kyle Rudolph, I'll tell you what. Normally we would go

1793
01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:23,800
Speaker 3: to break. But how about this.

1794
01:34:23,880 --> 01:34:27,639
Speaker 2: For the second time in two weeks, my buddy Trent

1795
01:34:27,680 --> 01:34:31,080
Speaker 2: Williams is Jordi Fox Sports Radio. Trent Williams joined me

1796
01:34:31,200 --> 01:34:36,080
Speaker 2: after the Green Bay Packers game last Saturday. Trent Williams

1797
01:34:36,120 --> 01:34:39,320
Speaker 2: are out with Air Torres and colleague of yours, Kyle Rudolph,

1798
01:34:39,320 --> 01:34:44,120
Speaker 2: you're on Fox Sports Radio. How you doing, man, I'm

1799
01:34:44,200 --> 01:34:46,760
Speaker 2: doing great. First of all, I asked you this last

1800
01:34:46,760 --> 01:34:49,720
Speaker 2: week after Green Bay. I'll ask you again. Take us

1801
01:34:49,800 --> 01:34:52,760
Speaker 2: into that locker room. What is it like right now?

1802
01:34:52,800 --> 01:34:54,320
Speaker 2: For those of us who have never gone to the

1803
01:34:54,320 --> 01:34:54,800
Speaker 2: Super Bowl?

1804
01:34:56,040 --> 01:35:00,400
Speaker 8: Honestly, we ain't even made it to the locker wrong yet?

1805
01:35:01,680 --> 01:35:03,200
Speaker 3: Have you had your first sip of champagne?

1806
01:35:03,200 --> 01:35:03,360
Speaker 4: Though?

1807
01:35:03,400 --> 01:35:10,400
Speaker 3: That's the important part, Trent. Can you hear us?

1808
01:35:11,040 --> 01:35:13,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, I can hear you.

1809
01:35:14,479 --> 01:35:16,120
Speaker 2: We lost your first second. Have you had your first

1810
01:35:16,479 --> 01:35:18,200
Speaker 2: champaign yet? Yeah, we could hear you. We could hear you.

1811
01:35:18,200 --> 01:35:19,800
Speaker 2: Have you had your first sip of champagne yet?

1812
01:35:20,439 --> 01:35:27,639
Speaker 8: I haven't, I said, I'm trying to. I think they're

1813
01:35:27,640 --> 01:35:32,719
Speaker 8: having a hard time hearing.

1814
01:35:31,560 --> 01:35:33,920
Speaker 2: All right, Trent. Trent Williams is joining us here on

1815
01:35:33,960 --> 01:35:36,400
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. Take USA.

1816
01:35:37,280 --> 01:35:38,880
Speaker 3: Can you hear us? Trent? Can you hear us?

1817
01:35:43,439 --> 01:35:43,719
Speaker 7: Trent?

1818
01:35:43,760 --> 01:35:45,240
Speaker 3: Take us into halftime?

1819
01:35:45,320 --> 01:35:48,240
Speaker 2: What did Kyle Shanahan you trail twenty four to seven

1820
01:35:48,360 --> 01:35:50,920
Speaker 2: at the break? What did Kyle Shanahan tell you guys?

1821
01:35:51,400 --> 01:35:51,559
Speaker 7: Uh?

1822
01:35:51,600 --> 01:35:53,759
Speaker 8: He just said, man, we just had to make plays.

1823
01:35:53,840 --> 01:35:56,840
Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying. You know, you down seventeen?

1824
01:35:57,040 --> 01:36:00,680
Speaker 8: What else is there to do? Get no point?

1825
01:36:02,520 --> 01:36:06,320
Speaker 2: We have officially lost, Trent Williams. Champagne has gotten on

1826
01:36:06,360 --> 01:36:09,920
Speaker 2: the cell phone. We had to let to let Trent

1827
01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:12,679
Speaker 2: Williams go. So I actually so I was very lucky.

1828
01:36:12,720 --> 01:36:12,920
Speaker 4: I was.

1829
01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:15,479
Speaker 2: I was hosting on Saturday Night last week when they

1830
01:36:15,520 --> 01:36:18,240
Speaker 2: beat Green Bay and we talked to Trent for like

1831
01:36:18,280 --> 01:36:20,160
Speaker 2: twenty not maybe not twenty, like ten minutes.

1832
01:36:20,200 --> 01:36:22,519
Speaker 3: He was awesome. So I'm a little bit bummed.

1833
01:36:22,520 --> 01:36:24,759
Speaker 2: But obviously it sounds like they're walking through the tunnels

1834
01:36:24,760 --> 01:36:28,479
Speaker 2: out there at Levi Stadium, and so it appears as

1835
01:36:28,479 --> 01:36:29,760
Speaker 2: though we lost Trent.

1836
01:36:29,880 --> 01:36:32,439
Speaker 3: What is the craziest locker room you've ever been in, Kyle?

1837
01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:35,799
Speaker 4: For me, it would have had to have been after

1838
01:36:36,640 --> 01:36:45,200
Speaker 4: the Divisional Round twenty eighteen playoffs, the Minneapolis Miracle you

1839
01:36:45,240 --> 01:36:48,800
Speaker 4: know digs Is touchdown to beat New Orleans.

1840
01:36:49,680 --> 01:36:51,479
Speaker 3: Was that you liked that? Part? Two?

1841
01:36:52,640 --> 01:36:58,639
Speaker 4: No, so case keenum the quarterback, so k Kirk beat

1842
01:36:58,840 --> 01:37:02,600
Speaker 4: New Orleans. Kirk hit me on a fade route in overtime.

1843
01:37:02,760 --> 01:37:07,040
Speaker 4: We beat New Orleans in New Orleans, right. But the

1844
01:37:07,560 --> 01:37:11,640
Speaker 4: that locker room was was cool. I tell people like

1845
01:37:11,720 --> 01:37:15,720
Speaker 4: that locker room experience for me was one of my

1846
01:37:15,800 --> 01:37:19,880
Speaker 4: favorite moments in football. And it wasn't because I was

1847
01:37:19,920 --> 01:37:22,160
Speaker 4: the one that got to catch the game winning touchdown.

1848
01:37:22,360 --> 01:37:26,519
Speaker 4: It was more so we were on the Road in

1849
01:37:26,720 --> 01:37:30,920
Speaker 4: New Orleans, you know, the Superdome. Everyone had kind of

1850
01:37:30,920 --> 01:37:32,840
Speaker 4: picked New Orleans to come out of the NFC that

1851
01:37:32,920 --> 01:37:35,600
Speaker 4: year in the Super Bowl. It was supposed to be

1852
01:37:35,640 --> 01:37:38,040
Speaker 4: the year that they you know, finally got over the

1853
01:37:38,160 --> 01:37:41,559
Speaker 4: hump and you know, out of the NFC playoffs into

1854
01:37:41,600 --> 01:37:44,439
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl, and you know, really no one gave

1855
01:37:44,520 --> 01:37:47,599
Speaker 4: us a chance going going down there in the wildcard round.

1856
01:37:47,960 --> 01:37:53,360
Speaker 4: And yet every single person in our building, uh, players, coaches, staff,

1857
01:37:54,400 --> 01:37:59,960
Speaker 4: they bought into Look, we we belong, we can control

1858
01:38:00,120 --> 01:38:03,479
Speaker 4: role our own destiny. If we go down there and

1859
01:38:03,520 --> 01:38:06,840
Speaker 4: do what we're supposed to do, it will be good enough,

1860
01:38:07,360 --> 01:38:10,720
Speaker 4: and we'll come back here with a win. And you know,

1861
01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:13,360
Speaker 4: kind of the attention to detail that everyone put into

1862
01:38:13,400 --> 01:38:16,320
Speaker 4: that game, knowing it's probably gonna be the loudest football

1863
01:38:16,360 --> 01:38:18,559
Speaker 4: game you've ever played in. You're not going to be

1864
01:38:18,560 --> 01:38:23,040
Speaker 4: able to hear anything. You're gonna have to play almost

1865
01:38:23,080 --> 01:38:27,360
Speaker 4: perfect football to beat a really good New Orleans team,

1866
01:38:27,680 --> 01:38:31,080
Speaker 4: And you know, ultimately that's what happened. You know, we

1867
01:38:31,120 --> 01:38:35,160
Speaker 4: went down there, we played almost perfect football for sixty minutes.

1868
01:38:35,240 --> 01:38:39,599
Speaker 4: We went to overtime by the luck of the coin toss,

1869
01:38:39,640 --> 01:38:42,559
Speaker 4: we got the ball first we went right down the field,

1870
01:38:42,640 --> 01:38:44,760
Speaker 4: Kirk hit Adam on a huge play to get the

1871
01:38:44,760 --> 01:38:48,400
Speaker 4: ball inside the five yard line. Then ultimately, you know,

1872
01:38:48,479 --> 01:38:51,639
Speaker 4: I caught a fade on third and goal to end

1873
01:38:51,640 --> 01:38:54,160
Speaker 4: the game and a walk off, And so that that

1874
01:38:54,200 --> 01:38:58,439
Speaker 4: locker room experience was cool because of those reasons. But

1875
01:38:58,880 --> 01:39:02,360
Speaker 4: the Minneapolis mirror goal, where you know, we were the

1876
01:39:02,400 --> 01:39:04,760
Speaker 4: two seed, it was a home playoff game for us

1877
01:39:04,760 --> 01:39:07,519
Speaker 4: in the divisional round. We were coming off the buy.

1878
01:39:08,200 --> 01:39:12,160
Speaker 4: We were up sixteen to nothing at halftime. You know,

1879
01:39:12,280 --> 01:39:15,000
Speaker 4: ultimately everyone in the locker room at halftime was like, look,

1880
01:39:15,360 --> 01:39:17,240
Speaker 4: you know that's Drew Brees and the New Orleans Saints

1881
01:39:17,240 --> 01:39:20,439
Speaker 4: over there, Like sixteen points is not enough, Like we

1882
01:39:20,600 --> 01:39:23,000
Speaker 4: have to keep going. We have to play well in

1883
01:39:23,040 --> 01:39:26,120
Speaker 4: the second half. This is far from over. And honestly

1884
01:39:26,160 --> 01:39:28,160
Speaker 4: we we kind of did with Detroit did we let

1885
01:39:28,240 --> 01:39:30,200
Speaker 4: him get back in the game in the third quarter,

1886
01:39:30,680 --> 01:39:32,639
Speaker 4: and then we were back and forth in the fourth.

1887
01:39:33,320 --> 01:39:36,040
Speaker 4: They ultimately kicked a field goal with I think there

1888
01:39:36,080 --> 01:39:39,960
Speaker 4: was twenty six seconds left. All we needed was a

1889
01:39:39,960 --> 01:39:43,439
Speaker 4: field goal to win. But obviously the game ended with

1890
01:39:43,600 --> 01:39:46,600
Speaker 4: the Minneapolis miracle and Digs catching the ball on the

1891
01:39:46,640 --> 01:39:49,680
Speaker 4: sideline staying in bounds and running for the touchdowns. So

1892
01:39:50,240 --> 01:39:53,559
Speaker 4: that was more kind of like, there's no way that

1893
01:39:53,720 --> 01:39:57,559
Speaker 4: just happened. You know, we're now one game away from

1894
01:39:57,640 --> 01:40:00,679
Speaker 4: the super Bowl, the Super Bowls in minnieapp we could

1895
01:40:00,680 --> 01:40:03,480
Speaker 4: be the first team to play in our own super Bowl.

1896
01:40:03,560 --> 01:40:06,320
Speaker 4: So that locker room was for sure the craziest that

1897
01:40:06,560 --> 01:40:09,000
Speaker 4: I'd ever been in. You know, it's a shame we

1898
01:40:09,040 --> 01:40:11,599
Speaker 4: didn't get to talk to Trent. I was really excited

1899
01:40:11,640 --> 01:40:16,960
Speaker 4: to hear kind of the message at halftime, the mentality

1900
01:40:17,000 --> 01:40:21,080
Speaker 4: of the guys, you know, him, George Kittle, Fred Warner,

1901
01:40:21,640 --> 01:40:24,160
Speaker 4: you know, kind of what they were saying throughout the

1902
01:40:24,200 --> 01:40:28,519
Speaker 4: course of halftime and to start the third quarter. You know,

1903
01:40:28,600 --> 01:40:30,880
Speaker 4: as a leader of that team, as a leader of

1904
01:40:30,920 --> 01:40:35,000
Speaker 4: the offense, you know, well, what are you telling telling

1905
01:40:35,080 --> 01:40:37,679
Speaker 4: the guys? You know what, how are you rallying? Obviously

1906
01:40:37,720 --> 01:40:39,439
Speaker 4: he started he alluded to it a little bit that

1907
01:40:39,560 --> 01:40:42,080
Speaker 4: Kyle said, you know, look, we're down seventeen points. We

1908
01:40:42,160 --> 01:40:45,320
Speaker 4: just got to go make plays. And you know, quite honestly,

1909
01:40:45,400 --> 01:40:49,479
Speaker 4: that's that's the message that I would expect. They didn't

1910
01:40:49,520 --> 01:40:52,840
Speaker 4: have to do anything extra special to come back from

1911
01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:57,800
Speaker 4: being down seventeen points. You know, if they just go

1912
01:40:57,880 --> 01:41:01,559
Speaker 4: out and do what they do. It was gonna be enough. Certainly,

1913
01:41:01,560 --> 01:41:04,000
Speaker 4: they got a little help from Detroit with the couple

1914
01:41:04,040 --> 01:41:07,240
Speaker 4: turnover on downs and the fumble, but that's gonna happen,

1915
01:41:07,240 --> 01:41:10,240
Speaker 4: you know, if you put pressure on a team. I

1916
01:41:10,280 --> 01:41:13,160
Speaker 4: think they showed a stat on Fox during the game

1917
01:41:13,200 --> 01:41:16,879
Speaker 4: of championship game experience, and the Lions had seven games

1918
01:41:16,960 --> 01:41:20,519
Speaker 4: of championship experience too. I think seventy three games for

1919
01:41:20,560 --> 01:41:23,519
Speaker 4: the forty nine ers. The Niners have been there that

1920
01:41:23,800 --> 01:41:26,080
Speaker 4: the moment was not too big for him. They knew

1921
01:41:26,120 --> 01:41:28,679
Speaker 4: exactly what they were signing up for. They stayed calm,

1922
01:41:29,520 --> 01:41:32,160
Speaker 4: and ultimately they had one of the best second half

1923
01:41:32,160 --> 01:41:33,960
Speaker 4: comebacks in playoff history.

1924
01:41:34,479 --> 01:41:36,400
Speaker 2: Well tell you, first of all, that was a great story.

1925
01:41:36,920 --> 01:41:38,400
Speaker 2: A little bit bummed that we did not get to

1926
01:41:38,400 --> 01:41:40,880
Speaker 2: talk to Trent Williams. But here's the good news. We

1927
01:41:40,920 --> 01:41:43,720
Speaker 2: get the next best thing. Mark Willard will join us

1928
01:41:43,760 --> 01:41:46,120
Speaker 2: here on the other side. He will give us the

1929
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Speaker 2: San Francisco perspective on an unbelievable victory for everybody just

1930
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Speaker 2: joining us. The San Francisco forty nine ers are headed

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Speaker 2: to the Super Bowl after a thirty four to thirty

1932
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Speaker 2: one victory over the Lions.

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Speaker 3: Mark Willard joins us next Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio

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Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to

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Speaker 1: listen live.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports Radio. Aaron torres in for

1939
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Speaker 2: Mark Willer alongside Kyle Rudolph. Mark Whiller will join us momentarily.

1940
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Speaker 2: But I'll tell you what. Why don't we go over

1941
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Speaker 2: to the news desk. Desager get America caught up on

1942
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Speaker 2: everything they missed on this wild Championship Sunday.

1943
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Speaker 6: NFC champions San Francisco, despite trailing at home at halftime

1944
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Speaker 6: twenty four to seven, they dominate the third against Detroit,

1945
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Speaker 6: turn things around and beat the Lions thirty four to

1946
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Speaker 6: thirty one. Here was near the end of the Lions broadcast.

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Speaker 9: Would you look at that second half of the Lions drops,

1948
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Speaker 9: missed interceptions, fumbled by Jamier Gibbs, a couple of questionable

1949
01:42:52,360 --> 01:42:57,040
Speaker 9: decisions on fourth down miss gone for three points, misstackles.

1950
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Speaker 9: Everything that went right in the first half went long

1951
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Speaker 9: in the second. Hald There's the snap Purdy, couple of

1952
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Speaker 9: steps back.

1953
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Speaker 3: Notch ball game.

1954
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Speaker 9: San Francisco forty nine ers are going to the Super

1955
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Speaker 9: Bowl and the Lions are going to go back home.

1956
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Speaker 3: One disappointed football team.

1957
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Speaker 6: That's ninety seven point one the Ticket Lions Radio network.

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Speaker 6: It is a final of thirty four to thirty one

1959
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Speaker 6: for the home team. Coach Dan Campbell of Detroit asked

1960
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Speaker 6: about his fourth down decision, makings that I don't regret those.

1961
01:43:23,600 --> 01:43:26,720
Speaker 6: I understand the scrutiny I will get. That's part of

1962
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Speaker 6: the gig. Detroit remains the only NFL team that's played

1963
01:43:31,640 --> 01:43:35,080
Speaker 6: every season of the Super Bowl era and never reached

1964
01:43:35,120 --> 01:43:37,680
Speaker 6: the Super Bowl. The Browns have never been to a

1965
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Speaker 6: super Bowl. But remember Cleveland for a little while didn't

1966
01:43:40,280 --> 01:43:44,120
Speaker 6: have an NFL team. But with a huge lead on

1967
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Speaker 6: the road and as well as things were going, it's

1968
01:43:47,920 --> 01:43:51,840
Speaker 6: stunning how things turned around. The first opting to go

1969
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Speaker 6: for it instead of a field goal attempt on fourth

1970
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Speaker 6: down was inside the Niners thirty on a fourth and two.

1971
01:43:57,640 --> 01:44:01,559
Speaker 6: Josh Reynolds couldn't hold onto the pass income turnover on downs,

1972
01:44:01,800 --> 01:44:04,519
Speaker 6: and let's not forget after that, when San Francisco had

1973
01:44:04,520 --> 01:44:08,559
Speaker 6: the ball, the potential interception on the long pass Kendall

1974
01:44:08,640 --> 01:44:11,360
Speaker 6: Vildor of the Lions had the pass hit him in

1975
01:44:11,400 --> 01:44:14,880
Speaker 6: the face mask. The ball pops up and Brandon Ayuk

1976
01:44:14,920 --> 01:44:18,320
Speaker 6: dives for it, a spectacular fifty one yard game. Three

1977
01:44:18,360 --> 01:44:22,599
Speaker 6: plays later he scores. Next play from scrimmage for Detroit

1978
01:44:22,720 --> 01:44:25,920
Speaker 6: is a fumble by Jamier Gibs. San Francisco turns that

1979
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Speaker 6: into a touchdown and it kept going after that. That

1980
01:44:29,560 --> 01:44:32,559
Speaker 6: was only a tie at the time. Josh Reynolds dropped

1981
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Speaker 6: another pass on a third down at forced to punt.

1982
01:44:35,160 --> 01:44:38,880
Speaker 6: Detroit couldn't down it at the one. Eventually, thirty four

1983
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Speaker 6: to thirty one, San Francisco gets the win. So who's

1984
01:44:43,400 --> 01:44:46,080
Speaker 6: the opponent comes Super Bowl time in a couple weeks.

1985
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Speaker 6: It's the team they faced in the Super Bowl four

1986
01:44:49,600 --> 01:44:52,720
Speaker 6: years ago. Kansas City is AFC champion. The Chiefs won

1987
01:44:52,720 --> 01:44:55,679
Speaker 6: at top seeded Baltimore seventeen to ten. It was seventeen

1988
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Speaker 6: to seven at the half. Chiefs scored touchdowns on their

1989
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Speaker 6: first two possessions. It'll get talked about since this is

1990
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Speaker 6: a Super Bowl rematch from a few years ago. The

1991
01:45:04,280 --> 01:45:06,720
Speaker 6: Chiefs won that one thirty one to twenty. But don't

1992
01:45:06,800 --> 01:45:10,400
Speaker 6: let the score fool you. Casey got three straight touchdowns

1993
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Speaker 6: in the last six and a half minutes to take

1994
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Speaker 6: that game. There are some players still remaining from those

1995
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Speaker 6: two rosters, but Tyreek Hill was one hundred yard receiver

1996
01:45:19,880 --> 01:45:23,040
Speaker 6: for Kansas City that day, and Jimmy Garoppolo was San

1997
01:45:23,080 --> 01:45:27,719
Speaker 6: Francisco's quarterback. He had one touchdown two interceptions. In college

1998
01:45:27,760 --> 01:45:30,800
Speaker 6: basketball wins for number one Connecticut and number two per Due,

1999
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Speaker 6: UAB beat nineteenth rank Memphis ninety seven eighty eight. In

2000
01:45:34,920 --> 01:45:38,320
Speaker 6: the NBA, Orlando beat Phoenix one thirteen to ninety eight.

2001
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Speaker 6: Despite Devin Booker of the Suns with forty four points

2002
01:45:42,439 --> 01:45:46,600
Speaker 6: in the game, Kevin Durant had seven turnovers. Kyle Shanahan

2003
01:45:46,640 --> 01:45:49,240
Speaker 6: as a head coach is undefeated at home still in

2004
01:45:49,280 --> 01:45:52,880
Speaker 6: the postseason. Now six and oh. This was San Francisco's

2005
01:45:52,920 --> 01:45:56,559
Speaker 6: third straight NFC title Game appearance, fourth in the last

2006
01:45:56,600 --> 01:45:59,639
Speaker 6: five years. Of course, Kansas City's getting used to Super

2007
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Speaker 6: Bowl appearances. Can't wait for two weeks from now in Vegas.

2008
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Speaker 2: Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve Disager, Fox

2009
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Speaker 2: Sports Radio, Fox Sports Sunday, Aaron Torres in for Mark

2010
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Speaker 2: Willard alongside Kyle Rudolph and I believe the man with

2011
01:46:15,840 --> 01:46:18,800
Speaker 2: his name on this show is joining us now. Mark

2012
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Speaker 2: Willard Mark, let me let me can I can I

2013
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Speaker 2: just ask you a question. I don't know if you're

2014
01:46:24,120 --> 01:46:27,320
Speaker 2: a religious man, but are you gonna be praying to

2015
01:46:28,080 --> 01:46:30,479
Speaker 2: is the Higher Being? Are youna be praying to him?

2016
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Speaker 2: Or you're gonna be praying? Are you gonna be thanking God?

2017
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Speaker 2: About Dan Campbell?

2018
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Speaker 3: Today? That was a wild final minute? Go ahead, I'm

2019
01:46:35,840 --> 01:46:36,479
Speaker 3: sorry the four er.

2020
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Speaker 7: No, I'm praying to you. I'm praying to you. You

2021
01:46:38,760 --> 01:46:41,400
Speaker 7: can have the show, you can have it, it works, whatever,

2022
01:46:41,479 --> 01:46:45,400
Speaker 7: whatever works, we have to say superstitious and and and

2023
01:46:45,560 --> 01:46:48,720
Speaker 7: just going with it right like, thank you for being

2024
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Speaker 7: there tonight. And I have no problem being outed right

2025
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Speaker 7: now that I'm not sick. I'm not otherwise engaged. I

2026
01:46:55,960 --> 01:46:58,840
Speaker 7: simply needed to sit back and focus on this thing,

2027
01:46:59,240 --> 01:47:03,240
Speaker 7: and more so than I even realized, because those were

2028
01:47:04,040 --> 01:47:07,360
Speaker 7: two of the least enjoyable playoff wins I've ever seen,

2029
01:47:07,439 --> 01:47:09,640
Speaker 7: because it felt like they were going to lose the

2030
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Speaker 7: entire times. But here we are. So that's what I

2031
01:47:12,560 --> 01:47:15,679
Speaker 7: just said to Ryan when he called and said, hopall

2032
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Speaker 7: with the guys. He's like, how you feeling. I'm like,

2033
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Speaker 7: my favorite team's going to the super Bowl. But I

2034
01:47:20,720 --> 01:47:23,000
Speaker 7: don't even know if we're any good. Like that's what

2035
01:47:23,040 --> 01:47:25,880
Speaker 7: it feels like. It's like it couldn't do anything right

2036
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Speaker 7: in the first half of these football games. An unbelievable situations.

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Speaker 3: First, so first reaction to the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 2: First of all, what were you thinking at halftime when

2039
01:47:36,920 --> 01:47:39,080
Speaker 2: twenty four to seven nothing's going right?

2040
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Speaker 3: What are you thinking at halftime before?

2041
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Speaker 4: Obviously the second I'm thinking.

2042
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Speaker 7: I'm thinking that Steve Welks is going to have a

2043
01:47:45,960 --> 01:47:49,280
Speaker 7: hard time keeping his job. That's honestly what was going

2044
01:47:49,320 --> 01:47:53,160
Speaker 7: through my head because and that's not to say that

2045
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Speaker 7: everything is on him or any of that, but the

2046
01:47:56,920 --> 01:47:59,080
Speaker 7: defensive coordinator of the forty nine ers is in a

2047
01:47:59,160 --> 01:48:02,880
Speaker 7: situation where it's been a revolving door from Robert solid

2048
01:48:02,960 --> 01:48:05,960
Speaker 7: to Demico Ryans, and then you get to this situation

2049
01:48:06,160 --> 01:48:10,280
Speaker 7: where everybody is incredibly high priced and has really big names,

2050
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Speaker 7: And I just know that's the way it works in

2051
01:48:14,040 --> 01:48:18,120
Speaker 7: professional sports, where when you have what field like every

2052
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Speaker 7: resource possible, and you can't stop the run, you can't

2053
01:48:22,320 --> 01:48:24,519
Speaker 7: stop the past, you can't do anything. It's just like

2054
01:48:25,120 --> 01:48:29,360
Speaker 7: everything is wide open spaces on every single play. I

2055
01:48:29,439 --> 01:48:30,760
Speaker 7: thought it was going to be a hell of a

2056
01:48:30,840 --> 01:48:35,880
Speaker 7: long off season for Steve Wilks, but then the turnaround,

2057
01:48:36,439 --> 01:48:39,599
Speaker 7: which I do think the Lions helped. At a certain point, Kyle,

2058
01:48:39,680 --> 01:48:41,880
Speaker 7: you got to tell me, because Aaron Kyle and I

2059
01:48:41,880 --> 01:48:45,480
Speaker 7: have been talking about this all year long, the disease

2060
01:48:45,880 --> 01:48:49,519
Speaker 7: of going for a field goal in the NFL. Kyle,

2061
01:48:49,560 --> 01:48:51,120
Speaker 7: you got to tell me what you think about what

2062
01:48:51,240 --> 01:48:53,280
Speaker 7: Dan Campbell did on those fourths downs.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Mark, we were talking about it. It's funny. Aaron

2064
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Speaker 4: actually brought up one of the points that I've made

2065
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Speaker 4: every time we talk about analytics and going for it

2066
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Speaker 4: on fourth down, and you know the fact that like

2067
01:49:04,040 --> 01:49:07,000
Speaker 4: momentum doesn't play into that kind of stuff. And I

2068
01:49:07,080 --> 01:49:10,559
Speaker 4: actually I made the point that, look, if you're going

2069
01:49:10,600 --> 01:49:13,000
Speaker 4: to be aggressive and you're going to do it and

2070
01:49:13,040 --> 01:49:15,719
Speaker 4: go for fourth down like you did in the second half,

2071
01:49:16,240 --> 01:49:18,280
Speaker 4: why are you not going for fourth and three right

2072
01:49:18,320 --> 01:49:21,479
Speaker 4: before the half? You played it smart and you took

2073
01:49:21,520 --> 01:49:24,120
Speaker 4: the three points right before the half, and then ultimately

2074
01:49:24,120 --> 01:49:26,599
Speaker 4: you decided to go for it and pass up a

2075
01:49:26,640 --> 01:49:28,679
Speaker 4: forty six yard field goal at a forty eight yard

2076
01:49:28,760 --> 01:49:32,280
Speaker 4: field goal. So we definitely spent a segment or two

2077
01:49:32,320 --> 01:49:39,080
Speaker 4: talking about those decisions, and Aaron compared it to drinking

2078
01:49:39,080 --> 01:49:41,719
Speaker 4: a bottle of wine as opposed to drinking a glass

2079
01:49:41,760 --> 01:49:45,000
Speaker 4: of wine here and there. I compared it to blackjack odds.

2080
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Speaker 3: So his analogy much better than mine.

2081
01:49:47,600 --> 01:49:50,960
Speaker 4: For the record, we definitely had our fair share of

2082
01:49:51,320 --> 01:49:56,559
Speaker 4: analogies and comparisons, and yeah, it's it's certainly one that's

2083
01:49:56,600 --> 01:49:59,400
Speaker 4: gonna be talked about. Obviously, he owned it. He said, Look,

2084
01:49:59,400 --> 01:50:01,360
Speaker 4: those are just visions that I made. It's part of

2085
01:50:01,400 --> 01:50:05,280
Speaker 4: the job, you know. I Ultimately he felt like that's

2086
01:50:05,320 --> 01:50:07,880
Speaker 4: what gave his team the best chance to win the game.

2087
01:50:08,000 --> 01:50:11,599
Speaker 4: But you know, we kind of went through both of

2088
01:50:11,640 --> 01:50:16,920
Speaker 4: those situations and what the flow of the game was

2089
01:50:17,000 --> 01:50:20,640
Speaker 4: at that time, the momentum of San Francisco coming out

2090
01:50:20,720 --> 01:50:23,240
Speaker 4: right before or right out of the half doing exactly

2091
01:50:23,280 --> 01:50:25,479
Speaker 4: what they had to do. You know, we hopped on

2092
01:50:25,640 --> 01:50:30,600
Speaker 4: air just before halftime, and you know we joked around like,

2093
01:50:30,680 --> 01:50:32,559
Speaker 4: you know, good thing Mark's not on air with us

2094
01:50:32,640 --> 01:50:35,160
Speaker 4: right now, because he probably would be losing his mind

2095
01:50:35,200 --> 01:50:38,240
Speaker 4: the way you know, the Niners played on offense and

2096
01:50:38,400 --> 01:50:41,640
Speaker 4: defense in the first half that like you said, they

2097
01:50:41,640 --> 01:50:45,960
Speaker 4: couldn't stop anything. On defense, Rock Purty was throwing up meatballs.

2098
01:50:46,439 --> 01:50:50,000
Speaker 4: It looked like some of the Cleveland game there where

2099
01:50:50,000 --> 01:50:52,280
Speaker 4: it was just you know, up for grabs. He was,

2100
01:50:52,320 --> 01:50:56,360
Speaker 4: they were getting pressure on him, and ultimately Aaron asked me,

2101
01:50:56,400 --> 01:50:58,439
Speaker 4: what do they have to do to get back in

2102
01:50:58,520 --> 01:51:00,759
Speaker 4: this game, and I said, just do what they do well,

2103
01:51:01,240 --> 01:51:05,680
Speaker 4: run the football, hit the play action, get Debo involved,

2104
01:51:06,040 --> 01:51:08,000
Speaker 4: and sure enough it was like boom, boom boom. They

2105
01:51:08,040 --> 01:51:09,960
Speaker 4: go right down the field. They get three points, and

2106
01:51:10,000 --> 01:51:12,759
Speaker 4: it's like, okay, here they go. They're getting in their groove.

2107
01:51:13,200 --> 01:51:16,959
Speaker 4: And then Detroit plays perfectly right in their hand. Instead

2108
01:51:16,960 --> 01:51:19,720
Speaker 4: of kicking the three point, kicking the field goal and

2109
01:51:19,760 --> 01:51:22,920
Speaker 4: then making it a seventeen point game again, they go

2110
01:51:23,080 --> 01:51:26,240
Speaker 4: for it. Reynolds has the drop. I understand it was

2111
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Speaker 4: a tough catch, you know, kind of on his side

2112
01:51:28,800 --> 01:51:33,360
Speaker 4: in the short distance. Can't complete the fourth down, and

2113
01:51:33,400 --> 01:51:38,040
Speaker 4: then it was the turnover. The turnover on downs down

2114
01:51:38,080 --> 01:51:40,479
Speaker 4: three points, and I was worried they weren't going to

2115
01:51:40,520 --> 01:51:42,280
Speaker 4: get the ball back at all. But quite honestly, San

2116
01:51:42,280 --> 01:51:45,280
Speaker 4: Francisco scored too quickly, so they gave them the ball

2117
01:51:45,320 --> 01:51:49,559
Speaker 4: with a little time left. Some clock mismanagement late in

2118
01:51:49,600 --> 01:51:51,599
Speaker 4: the game. You can't run the ball on third down

2119
01:51:51,600 --> 01:51:53,759
Speaker 4: and get tackled short and have to use a timeout

2120
01:51:53,760 --> 01:51:56,760
Speaker 4: because if you don't have all three timeouts again, San

2121
01:51:56,760 --> 01:51:58,840
Speaker 4: Francisco can run the clock out. They didn't even have

2122
01:51:58,880 --> 01:52:02,840
Speaker 4: a chance to get the ball back. So all in all, yet,

2123
01:52:03,040 --> 01:52:06,160
Speaker 4: did Detroit do some things to help San Francisco out?

2124
01:52:06,520 --> 01:52:11,120
Speaker 4: They did, But ultimately we had Trent Williams pop on here,

2125
01:52:11,160 --> 01:52:14,120
Speaker 4: and I was curious to hear his reaction because when

2126
01:52:14,240 --> 01:52:17,880
Speaker 4: I got asked what I thought the message was at halftime,

2127
01:52:18,439 --> 01:52:20,840
Speaker 4: it was what he started to say, like, look, we

2128
01:52:20,920 --> 01:52:23,400
Speaker 4: just need to go make plays. We're down seventeen points.

2129
01:52:23,479 --> 01:52:27,280
Speaker 4: It's okay, go out do what we do and ultimately

2130
01:52:27,320 --> 01:52:30,000
Speaker 4: we'll be okay. And that's what the Niners did, So

2131
01:52:30,320 --> 01:52:32,799
Speaker 4: you got to give him credit. That's an experienced football

2132
01:52:32,840 --> 01:52:36,240
Speaker 4: team that's been in a lot of those situations. You know,

2133
01:52:36,280 --> 01:52:40,120
Speaker 4: they know big games and they didn't flinch. You got

2134
01:52:40,120 --> 01:52:42,679
Speaker 4: to give him credit. Obviously, as a fan, I'm sure

2135
01:52:42,680 --> 01:52:44,439
Speaker 4: you would like them to start playing like that at

2136
01:52:44,439 --> 01:52:46,439
Speaker 4: the beginning of the first quarter and not waiting until

2137
01:52:46,439 --> 01:52:49,080
Speaker 4: the third quarter. But ultimately they're going to the Super Bowl.

2138
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I have no idea what to expect in two weeks.

2139
01:52:53,160 --> 01:52:55,200
Speaker 7: I really don't. You know like I thought I knew

2140
01:52:55,200 --> 01:52:57,600
Speaker 7: the Chiefs, they look like a much better version of

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Speaker 7: themselves all of a sudden, Mahomes is their defense is

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Speaker 7: better than it's ever been and the forty nine Ers

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Speaker 7: are as wobbly as possible. Dynamic followed by terrible and

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Speaker 7: vice versa. So I have no idea what to expect,

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Speaker 7: but you're right, and guys, that's what I think ended

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Speaker 7: up happening in this game. And sometimes as media members

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Speaker 7: we overplay the whole like, oh, the team's got experience

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Speaker 7: and that team doesn't. But I really thought that that

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Speaker 7: mattered in this matchup in the end, because the forty

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Speaker 7: nine Ers were able to stay calm down by seventeen points,

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Speaker 7: and as soon as the ball started flying the other way,

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Speaker 7: I saw the Lions start gagging in every direction, drop

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Speaker 7: passes and fumbled and poor play calls and just just

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Speaker 7: everything got jittery really quick, and once the snowball was rolling,

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Speaker 7: they couldn't stop it.

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Speaker 2: Willard, unfortunately, Man, we are up against it going. Man,

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Speaker 2: go enjoy this evening. You know I'll be in the

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Speaker 2: bullpen two weeks from now. I don't know what if

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Speaker 2: I should be ready for the phone calling up but man.

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Speaker 3: Good, enjoy this way.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 2: We asked Trent Williams if he had had his first

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Speaker 2: glass of champagne yet, and then the phone got cut off,

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Speaker 2: so I don't know what that means. Go go pop

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Speaker 2: that bottle of champagne and go crazy. Man, enjoy this

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Speaker 2: yeh uh, And we'll be listening to you next week.

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Speaker 3: Man. Thank you for having Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, guys, thanks for holding it down. And it's great

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Speaker 7: to hear your boys and conn. I can't wait to

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Speaker 7: get back in there with you next Sunday.

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Speaker 4: Sounds good, Mark, enjoy it. Congrats, Thanks boy.

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Speaker 2: That is the host of this show, Mark Willard in

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Speaker 2: San Francisco, reacting to the forty nine ers advancing to

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Speaker 2: another Super Bowl thirty four to thirty one win. Over

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Speaker 2: the lines. We'll come back, final thoughts and maybe an

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Speaker 2: early look at the Super Bowl that's next.

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 1: listen live.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Aaron Torres filling in for Mark Willard alongside Kyle Rudolph.

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Speaker 3: We are taking you up till the top of the hour.

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Speaker 2: Ten minutes from now, Chris Plank and Arnie Span here

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01:55:06,440 --> 01:55:12,800
Speaker 2: with much more reaction to the two conference championship games

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Speaker 2: and the Super Bowl that we have come in.

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Speaker 3: Two weeks from today.

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Speaker 2: Kansas City beats Baltimore seventeen to ten in the early game.

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Speaker 2: The late afternoon NFC Championship game goes to the San

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Speaker 2: Francisco forty nine ers.

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Speaker 3: Still cannot believe they won that game. They were up.

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Speaker 2: They win thirty four to thirty one after trailing twenty

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Speaker 2: four to seven at the half. Kyle, listen, you know

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Speaker 2: everybody on these airwaves over the next you know, day

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Speaker 2: two three is gonna have plenty of reaction everything we

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Speaker 2: saw today.

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Speaker 3: But we only have a few minutes left.

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Speaker 2: I want to ask you first thoughts on a Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl that, as Seger just said, two teams that are

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Speaker 2: pseudo familiar with each other. You go back about three

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Speaker 2: four years. It was January twenty twenty when they played

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Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl. George Kittle was there, you know,

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Speaker 2: Boso was there. Patrick Mahone is there. Travis Kelce. First

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Speaker 2: reaction to this Super Bowl that we are going to

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Speaker 2: get here two weeks from now.

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Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be a good one. I think,

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Speaker 4: you know, Mark is a little worried with how Kansas

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Speaker 4: City's playing and how San Francisco has started the games

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Speaker 4: the last couple of weeks. But when I think back

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Speaker 4: to that Super Bowl in twenty twenty, you know kind

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Speaker 4: of how they matched up. You know, certainly the teams

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Speaker 4: are not the same, and there's a few huge pieces

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Speaker 4: that aren't on either team anymore and different players. But

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Speaker 4: I just I think of style and the style of

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Speaker 4: football that San Francisco wants to play, this identity of

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Speaker 4: Kansas City now and the defense that they have, and

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Speaker 4: how they've won games the last two weeks. We talked

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Speaker 4: about holding Baltimore to three points and limiting Buffalo to

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Speaker 4: the lack of production they had in the second half

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Speaker 4: last week. It's a great opportun unity for them to

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Speaker 4: come in and show that they're one of the best

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Speaker 4: defenses in football against a really high powered offense in

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Speaker 4: the forty nine ers. So I think it's going to

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Speaker 4: be a great super Bowl. Looking forward to the matchup,

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Speaker 4: I think we can all say one thing about this

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Speaker 4: Super Bowl in hopes that we don't have what followed

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Speaker 4: that Super Bowl in twenty twenty that was about being

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Speaker 4: the end of normality as we know it. I remember

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Speaker 4: being in Miami for that game and there was like

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Speaker 4: whispers of this, you know at the time, like coronavirus,

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Speaker 4: and I thought of Corona as the beer. I'm like, well,

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't really drink Corona, so it's not

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Speaker 4: that big of a deal. Like we knew nothing about

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Speaker 4: it at that time. So it's like, let's just hope

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Speaker 4: that history doesn't repeat itself there and we have a

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Speaker 4: global pandemic following this great matchup that we get to

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Speaker 4: see in two weeks.

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Speaker 2: It's I don't know if the words right word isn't funny,

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Speaker 2: but that is how I remembered that date because I

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Speaker 2: had a female friend who was there at that game,

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Speaker 2: nine Ers and the Kansas City Chiefs, and I remember

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Speaker 2: seeing pictures on Instagram and social media and I.

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Speaker 3: Was like, Oh, this is so cool.

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Speaker 2: And then like see the same pictures on Instagram and

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Speaker 2: social media like two weeks later, and you're like, oh wow,

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Speaker 2: that was a different world that we were living in.

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Speaker 3: That was a month ago.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, Kansas City and San Francisco are in the

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Do you want to give a picker?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, well you're ready. Yeah. I like San Francisco.

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Speaker 4: They've been my pick all year. I've said when they're

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Speaker 4: healthy and they're at their best, or they're the best

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Speaker 4: team in the NFL, and they'll get a week off

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Speaker 4: this week, an opportunity for Debo to get completely healthy,

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Speaker 4: a week for Christian to rest. It's been a long season,

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Speaker 4: you know, we talked about it earlier at the top

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Speaker 4: of the show, all the things that you go through

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Speaker 4: to get to this point. So I'm gonna take the

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Speaker 4: forty nine ers. I think this is the year they

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Speaker 4: finally get over the hump. They had the Chiefs in

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01:58:56,200 --> 01:58:58,600
Speaker 4: that Super Bowl in twenty twenty with the eleven point

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Speaker 4: lead in the second half, and I think this time

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Speaker 4: Kyle Shanahan finally gets the job done. And I have

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Speaker 4: one I wanted to ask Mark one other question before

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Speaker 4: he jumped off. Will Steve Wilkes cover Travis Kelce, Like,

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Speaker 4: will he put someone on Travis to make sure Travis

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Speaker 4: does not beat them?

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Speaker 7: That?

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Speaker 4: As someone who will pick the San Francisco forty nine ers,

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Speaker 4: I hope to see that happen.

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Speaker 2: Well, what he's got to do is listen an hour

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Speaker 2: or two of this show because you broke it down

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01:59:24,480 --> 01:59:26,760
Speaker 2: really well, how open Travis Kelsey was getting him.

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Speaker 3: Why that happened? But we gotta go.

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Speaker 2: Want to thank the crew, Loraine on the Board, Producer Burst,

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Speaker 2: Steve de Sager, Kyle Man, this was really fun.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: You know, I if Mark wants to watch the super

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Speaker 2: Bowl with you, I wanted to, but you know, if not,

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Speaker 2: hopefully I get the call again. But I appreciate your time.

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Speaker 2: Arnie Span your Chris Blanker up next

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports, are you