1 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: My guest today is the super talented singer songwriter Megan Trainer. 2 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: It is so hard to make it as a musician. 3 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: The music industry is extremely competitive, but Megan has broken 4 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: out as a major star. Her debut single, all About 5 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: That Base, reached number one on the Billboard Hot One chart, 6 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: and in two thousand and sixteen, she won the Grammy 7 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: for Best New Artist. Because she has accomplished so much 8 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: in a really challenging industry, I wanted to ask her 9 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 1: about her lessons for success and staying true to yourself. Plus, 10 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: she's a new mother, and so I wanted to hear 11 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: about how her and her husband are adjusting to life 12 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: as parents. She is a ray of sunshine, a beautiful 13 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 1: person and full of thoughtful advice. I love this conversation 14 00:00:53,640 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: so much, and I hope you do too. I'm freaking 15 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: the buck out, yeah, because I love you stop no way. Yeah, 16 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: and I and I love you from TikTok so oh 17 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: you're on my page every day. I love it. That's 18 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: so funny, all the stupid what beauty stuff in the dome. Yes, 19 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: it's so good. That's so funny. It's so funny. Well, 20 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 1: we'll talk about your career and how things happen intentionally 21 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: and accidentally. But that was literally not something that was 22 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: supposed to be successful. It was just something I don't 23 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: know how to do, and I thought, like, there's a 24 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: lot of bs and the beauty business, so I just 25 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: started and I was shocked that it got a response. 26 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: So that's interesting that you're one of the people. It's 27 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: so good and so helpful when I saw I saw 28 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: you on the show with Kevin Hart with your husband, Like, yeah, 29 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: it was that. I remember I was on the show 30 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: actually with my older brother here come say hi brother 31 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: the celebrity game phase. Yeah, because it was like siblings, 32 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: that's my bro. Hi, how are you know? He's checking 33 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: my volumes for me? He's great. Isn't that random? That Like, 34 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: that's weird because I mean, obviously you're you're a singer 35 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: and so I know of your songs, but I got 36 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: a little sense of your personality then Yeah, yeah, that 37 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: was a that was a lot of fun. And I 38 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: love doing stuff like that because then people get to 39 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: know your personally better exactly. Um, and you're from Massachusetts. Yes, 40 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 1: I'm a Massachusetts girl. I'm from Cape Cod but I 41 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: was born and raised on Nantucket, but I went to 42 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: high school in Cape Cod. Well, um, my fiance's family, 43 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: he's been he's a head of home in Nantucket for 44 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: for decades, and so we're there a lot, will be 45 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: there this summer really really yeah, So we'll be there 46 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 1: a couple of times this summer. And we have a 47 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: place in Massachusetts also like near Boston. Wow, so nice. 48 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: And I haven't brought my husband out there at all 49 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: just because like well like COVID and all that, but 50 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: also traveling there, you know, it's a whole day and 51 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: the ass and and also the people they're like they 52 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: weren't really good at um the transition from me just 53 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: like the hometown girl to being a celebrity like they 54 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: didn't it didn't feel it wasn't comfortable going home. Interesting 55 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: really because it's very local, like locals. It's so local 56 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: you don't log your car as your house. So people 57 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: were just walking in and my parents on the jewelry store. 58 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: So so when I would go visit them at the store, 59 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: or if I would come off the boat and walk 60 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: into the store because it was right there, it turned 61 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: into a meet and greet and even my dad didn't 62 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: know how to handle it. And he'd be like, line 63 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: on up and I'd be like I have to pee, 64 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: like right, and she's here and I was like, okay, 65 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: well that's a concentrated town, so if you go in there, 66 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: it's going to be a public appearance. Yeah. And then 67 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: it's like text this person and they all show up 68 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: and it was a three hour day. Wow. Um, And 69 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: where do you live now? I live now in California, 70 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. Yeah, Oh wow. How do you like that? 71 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: I love it. I love the weather. I think it's 72 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: it's like vacation compared to you know, back at home, 73 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: and I never get for you think, and um, I 74 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: love seeing palm trees. I didn't get to see palm 75 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: trees growing up, you know, so it feels like I'm 76 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: on vacation all the time. Well, your career, I read 77 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: it about your career and its trajectory, and I wonder, 78 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,239 Speaker 1: did you feel like there was that moment of instant 79 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: success or for you? You feel like it really was 80 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: a gradual climb and a lot of uncertainty and you know, 81 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: self doubt. I was so young that I felt like 82 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 1: it was overnight success and and everyone's like, yeah, but 83 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 1: you've been writing since you were thirteen in your bedroom 84 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: and I'm like yeah, but nineteen. Like at seventeen, I 85 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: signed a publishing deal in high school. I left that 86 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: lunchtime to sign a deal, so I was like, I'm 87 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: going to be a songwriter. Then like a year and 88 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: a half into that, I all about that bass and 89 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: I had no other cuts. No one wanted my songs. 90 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: I had nothing, and Epic Records heard all about that 91 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: bass and was like, well, whoever singing it, just go 92 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: sign her and let her be the artist, and which 93 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: was like a dream of mine. But I didn't think 94 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: anyone believed in me like that. So when they when 95 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: they called, I was like me my I remember being 96 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: like my face and they're like that face. And then 97 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 1: all about the basse came out. I was embarrassed of 98 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 1: the music video. I was like, oh my god, all 99 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: my East clost friends are gonna see this and laugh 100 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 1: at me that I'm in a bright dress. And then 101 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: um it blew up and I was like oh Christ, like, 102 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 1: oh Christ, it's gonna be huge. And then Justin Bieber 103 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: remix it and I was like, oh my god, what 104 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: am I going to do now? And then I had 105 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: to like go be a pop star and it felt 106 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 1: like overnight and I was like thrown into red carpets 107 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm blind. I'll never forget my 108 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: first red carpet. It was crazy. And are you on? 109 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: Do you feel like you do you? Did you feel 110 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: because a lot of it is you feel like you're 111 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 1: a hometown girl. So do you feel like you sold out? 112 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: Like you betrayed where you came from in some way? 113 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: And I thought, I think no. I think I made 114 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: them proud. They were like stoked, you know. I think 115 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 1: they're like, Wow, someone from this little island can make 116 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: it all the way on the other side and go 117 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: to the Grammys. Yeah, it was like everyone was watching, 118 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: you know. It was very cool moment. That's nice. That's 119 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: so nice. Um. Do you feel comfortable with fame? Did 120 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: you feel comfortable then? And do you feel comfortable now? Um? 121 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: I I don't know if it's because of the pandemic 122 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: and all that, but I don't feel famous and I 123 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: like laugh at it, you know. Um. And maybe that's 124 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: the East Coast of me too, or also because I 125 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: live with my two brothers so they keep me very humble. Um. 126 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: And I also don't get recognized in public barely at all. 127 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: I think if I don't have a full like lash 128 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 1: On and the wigs on, people are like, wow, you 129 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: have the same name as that pop star. I'm like 130 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: mm um. So I don't ever feel like famous or celebrity. 131 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: I don't get chased by paparazzi. But um, I remember 132 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: there was a there's a few moments in your career, 133 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: like when you're leaving the foul in Tonight Show or 134 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: the Today Show and there there's paparazzi outside and they're 135 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: chasing your car. Those are the moments that I never loved, 136 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 1: and I was like, I hate this and it's scary, 137 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: and it felt like you're in a movie, but you're 138 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: in the bad movie. You're in the bad scene and 139 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: you're like, oh no, um. But that's a good level, 140 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: a good level. It's interesting some people, and look some people, 141 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: many people look for it, many people thrive on it. 142 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: And then it's funny because I was talking to Lady 143 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: Antebellum and they were saying that they really liked their 144 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: level of fame and the way that their lives were 145 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: in Nashville because they could have normal lives and if 146 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: you're a homebody like it sounds like yeah, which I 147 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: completely am, and you're not like out at red carpet events, 148 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: which I never am unless I have to be. Then 149 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: you don't know what's going on. You don't know what 150 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: anyone thinks of you because you never go anywhere to 151 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: see what people think of you. Literally, And I like 152 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: put out an album in the beginning of the of 153 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: the pandemic and like never got to leave my house, 154 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: so I haven't gone out since, and I'm about to 155 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: put on an album and like the world's coming back 156 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: to where I like i'd have to travel to New 157 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: York and do foulon and I'm there's a part of 158 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: me that's absolutely terrified, like and there's a part of 159 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: me also that's like so gone backwards in my career. 160 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: I feel like I haven't accomplished anything where I went 161 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: out one time to do uh an appearance and Miley 162 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: Cyrus was there and my team was like, go say hi, 163 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: and I was like no, no, no, Like I don't 164 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: want to bug her. They're like, Megan, you know her, 165 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: go say hi. I was like, I don't want to 166 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: bug her, like she doesn't know me. And then I 167 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: went up to her and like they pushed me out 168 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: there and she was lovely and nice and was like, 169 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 1: oh my god, remember the first time we met. And 170 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: I was like, wow, she does know me. But I 171 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: like it's like my confidence got shripped away or anything 172 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 1: I achieved. I just blacked out and forgot since the pandemic. 173 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: And that's funny. That's like about relevance and whether you 174 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: feel isn't that interesting? How like, yeah, still as talented 175 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: as you were, you still have the laurels and the 176 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: success you've had, but you know now you'll go back 177 00:08:56,320 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: out and but it's true, and that's why me I 178 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: relate to you a little bit. There's times when you 179 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: realize like it's not about you, it's just not about 180 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: you at this time, and then you're gonna go out 181 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: now and make it about you. But I think that 182 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: that's good because it's like a feast or femine and 183 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: you get to then put the pretty makeup on and 184 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,719 Speaker 1: put the costume and go out and like then then 185 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: you'll go back into your nest. Yeah, I much prefer 186 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: this life over like like sweet Billie Eilish can't go 187 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: outside because you know everyone can see her and know 188 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: that it's her and and it's probably so difficult at 189 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: her young age to want to go to the mall 190 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: and she can't, you know. And I'm I'm like at 191 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: the movie theaters with my brows and nothing happens to me. 192 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: So I do like that level. But I do talk 193 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: about like I'm like back when I was famous, Like 194 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: that's like and people comment and laugh like what are 195 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 1: you talking about? Like because like, I'm not doing nothing 196 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: right now, I'm just on TikTok that. Well, you know, 197 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: you can be very big. Yeah, well that's your little 198 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: stat's your that's your show for now, which I feel 199 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: like get. So what about the music? How has the 200 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: music really changed? And how much is the music about 201 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 1: the message? I know you talk about the lot has 202 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: been written about you and female empowerment, feminist and body 203 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 1: image and things like that. So what about the message 204 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 1: and the music how connected are they? Um? Like I 205 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: just saw with All About That Base, with a platform 206 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: with a lot of ears, a lot of people are listening. 207 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: It changed so many lives where all my meet and 208 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: greets were parents coming up to me saying my kid 209 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: was suicidal until All About That Base came out. So 210 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: please hug them extra, you know, and I that happened 211 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: so much that it was like my new mission, my 212 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: new superpower in life, to like, okay, not just write 213 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: songs for me, but write songs for everyone. So anytime 214 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: I'm writing something that starts for me, I'm like, I 215 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: want to make this universal so everyone can relate to it, 216 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: and it could change a stranger's life, like overseas, you know. 217 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 1: I think that's like the coolest thing, the coolest part 218 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: of our job. And um, so this new album, I 219 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:04,319 Speaker 1: had a baby and I was a mama and had 220 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: a C section, and it was like a lot of 221 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: like he was in the nikke for a minute and 222 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: I got gnarly stretched marks with the C section scar 223 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 1: crossing them. And I already struggled loving my body obviously, 224 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: so this is a whole new body and I'm like, whoa. Um, 225 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 1: so there's a lot a lot of emotions going on, 226 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: and um my songwriting right off the top was like 227 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: very emotional and very honest. Like my first song, I said, 228 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 1: it's sometimes it's hard being covered in scars and um, 229 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: and it was about loving myself and UM. But I 230 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: wanted that to relate to everyone who goes through anything 231 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: with their body. And loving themselves, you know. But yeah, 232 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: a lot of these songs are you can hear a 233 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: lot of myself being a mom. I have a song 234 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: called Superwoman that's like everyone thinks that I'm perfect and 235 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: awesome and smiley and happy and everything's great, and they're like, 236 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: how do you do it? I got a lot of 237 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: interviews and I was like, wow, you make me seem 238 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: like a super woman, But I I cry a lot, 239 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: Like I was like, it's not always awesome, you know, 240 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 1: I just post the good stuff like everyone else does. 241 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 1: So a lot of my songs are about that on 242 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: this album. And where does the body image? I call 243 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: it noise the body, the body noise. I don't know 244 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: if you have food noise, but like that whole noise. 245 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: Where does that come from? My insecurities from probably from 246 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: like you know, how you hear your parents talk about 247 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: about themselves and you kind of learned that My mom is. 248 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: My mom knows she's like the worst when it comes 249 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: to self love and confidence, and she's you'll never see 250 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,719 Speaker 1: her ever because she doesn't take pictures, She avoids the 251 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: camera at all costs. She doesn't even like hearing her voice. Yeah, 252 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: and it's heartbreaking. Because we all adore her and love 253 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: her and think she's adorable and so sweet and awesome. 254 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: But I definitely grew up with her trashing herself and 255 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 1: still does um and and that definitely rubbed off on me. 256 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: And I'm just learning with my therapist how to re 257 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: wire my brain so that my future kids don't do that, 258 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: you know. And it's difficult. It's like human nature for 259 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: us to you know, it's it's very hard to come 260 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: out and be like I'm awesome. You know. Well, it's 261 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: funny because that's true. They say that kids are sponges 262 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: and they hear everything you say and everything and see 263 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: everything you do, and it's not I grew up in 264 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: a house where there was eating disorders and alcoholism and 265 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,079 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff, and a lot of that stuff 266 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: that you're talking about, and um, that's like foul language. 267 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,719 Speaker 1: In my head. There's no you were good. You were 268 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: because you ate, there were you were good because you 269 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: didn't need. You were bad because you ate, you feel fat, 270 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: you look ugly, you look there's nothing like that. That 271 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: messaging is so important. I hear moms saying like, oh 272 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: my god, I I was good. I have to go 273 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: on a diet tomorrow. I feel like it's just this 274 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: messaging and these kids they I see it. The kids 275 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: started too, and it takes me cringe. It's really so 276 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: it's really good for you as a mother to realize 277 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: that because you can break the chain. And I got 278 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: I got a bunch of help for me, I like 279 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: have I'm lucky enough to have the resources and um, 280 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: the people, the team I built right now, I have 281 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: a dietitian and a trainer and people who have taught 282 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: me because I adjustational diabetes. So immediately, I was like 283 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: dieting while I was pregnant. Um, and I was doing 284 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: it wrong because the one dietitian. But I got a 285 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: new girl and she's incredible, and she um showed me 286 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: that I do like healthy food and showed me that 287 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: I can crave healthy food and and got like my 288 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: life is completely changed forever because of this woman. And 289 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: I'm so grateful and I just want to share that 290 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: with everyone else. UM. But she also taught me because 291 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: she works with so many different clients. And I asked her, 292 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: what's your younger sage and do they have eating disorders? 293 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: And she's like, I have a ten year old boy 294 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: who's with withholding, like the new thing is they just 295 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: don't eat at all, and like they're ten year olds 296 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: and they're boys and it's horrible. So it's it's definitely 297 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: like almost I feel like it's always getting worse, but 298 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: it's just still a thing and needs to be addressed. 299 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: And I wish they taught this ship in school. I know, 300 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: So I wish I wish they taught you, like like 301 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: I should. I'm learning is like basics, like you need 302 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: protein and you need a little bit of carbs, and 303 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: you need vegetables. Like I'm learning basics and I'm like, oh, 304 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: nobody taught me that if you have a well balanced meal, 305 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: you won't be starving later. And he's a whole bathing. Yeah, 306 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: well that's so funny. You would like my book Naturally 307 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: Thin from ten years ago, because I talked about it's 308 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: your diet's a bank account. And if you eat before 309 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: you go out, people are like, no, I'm gonna save 310 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: room for dinner. If you spoil your appetite, you should 311 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: spoil reppetite with somebody. You go out. You're not gonna 312 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: grab at the bread basket. You're not exactly grab the 313 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: or dirve because you're preparing yah, putting a little gas 314 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: in the tank. That's what she taught me, Like all 315 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: these awesome tricks that I never knew, Like when you 316 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: can have pizza and that's my favorite meals and I 317 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: have it, like every two weeks on Fridays, we have 318 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: pizza Friday. And she's like, start with a big salad 319 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: so that you're you go in full and you don't 320 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: go in starving. And I'm gonna eat this entire pizza 321 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: and then go be sick for the rest of the night, 322 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: you know, And I'm like, oh, I wish I had 323 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: these tricks my whole life. Soup too, super you're eating 324 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: pasta order positive with tons of vegetables. Eat the vegetables 325 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: for I wrote a whole book about this. It was 326 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: a massive success ten years ago. Literally, like I was 327 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: nobody and it was five months on the New York 328 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: Times bestseller lists. No one had been talking about the 329 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: relationship with food. That's what I wish. Yeah, Like, I 330 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: don't feel like I'm dieting ever. I feel like it's 331 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: my lifestyle now and I just made better choices because 332 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: I care about myself. Yeah, you have a good relationship 333 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: with food. It's not terrified of it and rebelling against 334 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: it and binging and all of it. Yeah, it's it's 335 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: it's interesting. Um, that's a whole world and that's good 336 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: and um so what is the word? What does female 337 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: empowerment mean to you? Do you feel like you are 338 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: a woman who is empowering younger women? Do you take 339 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: that responsibility? Do you think about that? Yeah, I didn't 340 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: go out there with bass being like I'm gonna be 341 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: an idol and I'm gonna help all. Like I was 342 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: like shocked when all these everyone in the meet and 343 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 1: greet was telling me, like she's mean, yeah, like what 344 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: the song means to them? You have no idea? And 345 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 1: it took me forty five minutes to write that song 346 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: like nothing, And I was like, oh, I could do 347 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 1: this ship all day long, Like let's put out every 348 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: album must have a self love song and um, multiple 349 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 1: of them. And like I can see it in the 350 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 1: crowd and the performances too. I see even the dad's 351 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: like what I love about my music, and like my 352 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: crowds are that it's like a father with her daughter, 353 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: his daughter, um or like grandparents with their kids their grandkids, 354 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: and it's like everyone can relate to these songs and 355 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: can feel something. That's why like it's it's it's like 356 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: it frustrates me almost when like a big artist puts 357 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 1: out a song that means nothing and you're like, oh man, 358 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: you have That's why I asked, that's definitely funny. That's 359 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: why as I was wanted, do you know Cia? Yeah, 360 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 1: I mean I don't know personally that well. I've met 361 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: her a couple of times. She was very sweet, but yeah, 362 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: you guys should know each other. I know her very well. 363 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 1: She's a very good friend. And you guys have a 364 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 1: lot of similarities. You would really really like each other 365 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 1: if you're very similar people like, I'm listening to everything 366 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 1: you're saying and it's shocking. We tell her and hang out. 367 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: I'm going to text her to hang out with you 368 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: with that thousand percent. She lives in l A. So 369 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna connect you guys. Um you'll get I'll get 370 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 1: you'll get my my people information. She's a wonderful person, 371 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: but she's very uh sensitive and emotional and doesn't have 372 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 1: a lot in common. Noise like a lot of the 373 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: same stuff. Very interesting. So what is it? How has 374 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: a baby and being married, changed your life and you 375 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: feel like you're doing a good job at it. Do 376 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 1: you think you're a good partner? Do you feel like 377 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: you have a successful relationship? And because I always talk 378 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 1: about success and relationships and the similarities and differences between 379 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 1: success in careers, like what you put in it and 380 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: what you get out of it and that kind of thing, 381 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: I wish more people have talked about this, but I 382 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: know it's like not that relatable too, but um, there is. Uh. 383 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: I have the best marriage ever, period. I have the 384 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: best man. I like, we're obsessed with each other to 385 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 1: a weird level. I don't know if you heard about 386 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: our toilets. We have two toilets next to each other. 387 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,679 Speaker 1: We pe together. Oh my god, yes, ma'am. We do 388 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 1: everything together and there's no limits. And I was in like, 389 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 1: I'm in this mom group and the moms are a 390 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: little older than me, and when I'm telling them all 391 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: these things, they're like, They're like, I don't fart in 392 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: front of my man. I'm like, like, it's just different, 393 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: you know. So my love is different and I know 394 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 1: that and I'm proud of it. But um, the point, Oh, yes, 395 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: he's an actor and he had huge success as a 396 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 1: child actor. He was in these movies called Spy Kids. 397 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, wait which kid the main redhead, the main 398 00:19:54,520 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: freakoutez five. I've watched all five with my daughter. Oh 399 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 1: my god. But what's crazy is like, as he's an 400 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: adult now and when we started dating, he still had 401 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: his gap and people were like telling him in auditions. 402 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: He would audition all the time and they would tell 403 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: him we still see like Junie's face, like we still 404 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 1: see that kids. So I while we were dating, I said, baby, 405 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: we're gonna get you veneers and I got him new 406 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: teeth and he got man teeth now and he's so 407 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: handsome and so hot. But he's still auditions all the time, 408 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: and it's it's like the most brutal career out there. 409 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: And when he gets knows, he just feels like, I 410 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: don't know, I don't I don't want to speak for him, 411 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: but I know he's frustrated and like he wants to 412 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,959 Speaker 1: be working too while I'm hustling. And right now our 413 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: dynamic is that he's with the baby all day long 414 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 1: and I'm out working all day long. So instead of 415 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 1: like old school traditional stuff, it is flipped and we 416 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: love it and it's great, but I'm sure like it's 417 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: hard on him sometimes, but um yeah it's a but 418 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: he champions me and he is my biggest fan. Like 419 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: it's never a weird and uncomfortable. Like I dated a 420 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: producer once and I felt like we were competing and 421 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 1: I got and I felt like, as a producer, you're 422 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: trying to work with that artist more than me. Like 423 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: it was it was weird. And Darryl since day one 424 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: has been like front row of my shows and been 425 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 1: like you're the greatest songwriter there ever was like worships yeah, 426 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 1: like worship me and is my number one fan and 427 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: it's the greatest thing to have that support. Well, it 428 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 1: will be his turn after this, you'll have your burst 429 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 1: and then you'll push, you know. It was like we 430 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: will be on set, honey, I will be there with 431 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 1: the snacks and the baby, and yeah he knows, so 432 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: this is your birst and then it will be his birst. 433 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: You know, people do that. Women move across the country 434 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 1: for a man's job and or several years and then 435 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 1: I've seen like it's my turn now, like it's you 436 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: know for sure, and we always say too because he 437 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: still looks so young he's about to turn thirty, but 438 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,479 Speaker 1: he still looks so young. And I'm like, once you 439 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: like turn into man men, you know, like, and he's like, 440 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: I think it might forties. I'm gonna be thriving. I 441 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: was like, yes, Oh, I love that. It's so sweet. 442 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,400 Speaker 1: I'm so happy you found love. Wow do you write 443 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: about that? Oh? Yeah? There's a song on my album? 444 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 1: Can I say titles? Suck it? There's the last song 445 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:16,719 Speaker 1: on my album. It's called Final Breath, and it's like 446 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: literally the notebook in a song. It's like, um, and 447 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: the words I'll choose from my Final Breath will be 448 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: I love you. And it talks about like when we're 449 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 1: laying there, when we're old and we died together at 450 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 1: the same time, one to three go, you know, like 451 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 1: I don't want it any other way. When is this count? 452 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: When is the album coming out? Um? I haven't told 453 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: anybody when it is coming out. I allowed to say 454 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: name manager. I don't want to say ship. Dude. This 455 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: is the only thing I hate about this, Like like 456 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: it was the summer, like not this summer. It would 457 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: be like later, got it? Tell them? Um, now, so 458 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 1: you Berkeley, you you got into Berkeley, which is hard 459 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: to get into it. I went to their summer program 460 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: for two summers in a row um and paid and 461 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: got in there and suspense it, but we did it. 462 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 1: My mother loves me. And then I applied for their college, 463 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: thinking that would help me get in, and I got in. 464 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 1: But you chose to knock go. I chose to not 465 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 1: go because I already signed a deal as a songwriter, 466 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 1: and I went in with my audition like I already 467 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: have a pub deal, like this is just my thing 468 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: on the side. And my dad is always a big 469 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: like go to school, blah blah blah blah blah. But 470 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: for this, he was like, you might as well just 471 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: go to work, you know, just go to Nashville and 472 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: write songs. You're not gonna learn. Like at the summer 473 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: program at Berkeley, there was a songwriting class and this 474 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: teacher told us, here's how you write a song. You 475 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 1: write down all your emotions in a notebook and a journal, 476 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: and then you take chords and write. And I called 477 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: my dad in a panic and was like, I don't 478 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 1: write songs correctly, and he was like, no, baby, girl, 479 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: everyone this is art. You do it your own way. 480 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: However you do it, you either got it or you don't. 481 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: And you got it. So then I was like, oh, 482 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: what am I going to learn in school about writing songs? 483 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: Like I already got it? So just what do you 484 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 1: say to to young kids who are graduating high school 485 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: who will have to take on debt and pay for 486 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: college themselves. Where do you stand on college? Oh? Because 487 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: I'm mixed. I'm totally mixed. I know I learned in college. 488 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I have a cousin right now graduating 489 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 1: college and she's like, I feel like I learned ship. 490 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: Like I learned nothing. I was like, it doesn't matter. 491 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: You have a piece of paper, You're gonna get sick jobs. 492 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: But like she also, I know, I'm like, also, I 493 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: don't know. I'm just trying to like pump her up. Um. 494 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: But it's it's also like I had a I'm lucky. 495 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: I'm very very few kids where children know what you 496 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 1: want to do in life. And I knew at twelve. 497 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: I was like, I will be in the music business. 498 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,199 Speaker 1: Either I will be a songwriter behind the scenes, or 499 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: one day I'll try to put out my own music. 500 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: And like I was like, nothing will stop me. I 501 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: will do this. Um. So that's a amazing and what 502 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: do you fit tribute that too? Is that a work 503 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: ethic from your parents? Is that just think? I think 504 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: my my dad is very hard worker and my mom 505 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: they worked every single day. Um. But um, my dad 506 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 1: was like, if you work hard enough at something, if 507 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 1: you practice long enough, and you write like five thousand songs, 508 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 1: you will be a great songwriter. And like he he'd 509 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: be like, come back to me when you have two 510 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: hundred songs. And I would show him, you know, I 511 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: just like worked to make him proud and and and 512 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: as my reward for Christmas, I would get like, here's 513 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 1: a programming thing because I a lot of people don't 514 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: know I produce, and I like, um, produce out my 515 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: songs and I write them in my bedroom and then 516 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: I take him from there. But so he would get 517 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 1: me like a guitar for Christmas or a program and 518 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 1: was like, I don't know how to use it, but 519 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 1: you could figure it out. So that was kind of 520 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: like our deal for my whole life. And it was 521 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 1: the best. And was he music, yeah, my my yeah. 522 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: My dad had a lot of He wore a lot 523 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: of hats. He did a lot of jobs. But one 524 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: of his jobs was the band teacher for Nantucket Island amazing. 525 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: I went to my daughter's concert last night. I was 526 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: thinking about the band teacher, Like, I was thinking about 527 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 1: how cute he Wasn't a sweetie? Wasn't right? Nice to 528 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 1: give that to the kid. Yeah, last night it's the best. 529 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: So um. And what was weird because my parents are 530 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: twenty one years apart in age, so growing up, all 531 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: my friends parents were my father's students, if that makes 532 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: any sense. Yeah, so they I would do sleepovers and 533 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,679 Speaker 1: they're like, yeared to have was my band teacher. And 534 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, that's so funny. So right, I mean, 535 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: you're a band teacher's daughter. You don't think if he 536 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 1: was not a band teacher, you probably wouldn't gotten into music. 537 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: I don't know, he was just he's so musical. He 538 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: he woke us up playing the keyboard and singing like 539 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: the Moaning Babe and like played in church and we 540 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 1: were like, okay, you played the organ in church, and 541 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 1: we wouldn't go there and sing with him and stuff 542 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: like that. So we were smothered in music. Anyone else 543 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 1: in your family musical? Um, My younger brother produces a 544 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: lot of the songs with me, and my elder brother 545 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: writes a lot of the songs with me. But my 546 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: older brother, like he has so much a d D 547 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 1: and frustration. I think that when he would pick up 548 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 1: an instrument, he'd be like I quit, and I was like, okay, 549 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,239 Speaker 1: I'll stick with it. So you're right about kids. I mean, 550 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: I guess giving the kids, exposing them to things that 551 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: you're passionate about him. My daughter just took to art 552 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: and then you have to nurture that and she, I mean, 553 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: I can't know, but this has been going on for 554 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 1: eight years. Where I'm she's twelve and she's she's an artist. 555 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: I mean, she just got the gift. She's excellent. I mean, 556 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: I have no idea where it goes, but she is 557 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: an artist for sure. Like she'll be teaching. She's not 558 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 1: supposed to be working, but this summer she said, I 559 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: want to work. I want structure. So she's going to 560 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: lead in our camp at my friends paddle boarding business. 561 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 1: So so I love that because because you're right about 562 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,679 Speaker 1: kids being lucky when they know what they want. And 563 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 1: I will say, like the only reason why I'm sitting 564 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 1: here today is because my parents. I hear the demos 565 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 1: that I wrote. I hear the songs that I performed 566 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: at fifteen years old. I was not good. I was 567 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: not good, and for some reason, my parents uh kept 568 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: me going and like I thought I was the best 569 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: because they loved me so much that they were like, 570 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 1: this is amazing something. I had something, but if you 571 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: heard it, you would laugh. Like I was like very, 572 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: I was very an easily. I was saying like like 573 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,199 Speaker 1: not good and my songs made no sense. They were 574 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: like love songs about nothing. And I look back and 575 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, why did you continue this? And she was 576 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: like you were my baby girl, like you were so good. 577 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 1: And then I got better, and then they started going 578 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: do we like her because we love her? Or is 579 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: she actually does she have something? And they would start 580 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: like my mom would start putting my songs up for 581 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: competitions and they would start winning. And she was like, 582 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: I knew it, my baby is amazing. That's yeah, but 583 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: it's true. But that will give you kid, confidence. Yeah 584 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: it did. I was like, I want to start to 585 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: the next. It's so funny because I just I wrote 586 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: a book called Business is Personal and a lot of 587 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: information about people like said graduating from college and I 588 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: say it's a layered career. You just have to do 589 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: one one thing well, like just get to the first 590 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: get on the first rock and do that. And then 591 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: so the first rock is you doing it? Your parents 592 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: saying you're great, Then you actually won something. Now you 593 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 1: think you're actually really good and you know, then you 594 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: layer that into like a career of a bunch of 595 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: different mistakes and wins. You know, what, what mistakes have 596 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: you made? That's actually a question I want to know, Well, 597 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: what do you what do you do? You do you 598 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: have regrets? Do you do? Have you had any failures 599 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: that you feel are just straight failures that they've all 600 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: become successes in some lesson? Um, I mean, yeah, I've 601 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 1: learned everything, um from my career. I My dad is like, 602 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: you're never good at something unless you put five years 603 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: into it. So we would always joke every year like 604 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 1: am I professionally yet? Nah? And like even winning the Grammy, 605 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: it wasn't like five years in and then I was 606 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: like finally five years and after the gram and I 607 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: was like, I think I know what I'm doing now, 608 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: but you don't. I don't know. I know, like there's 609 00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: a lot of politics in this career. And there's a 610 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: lot of I'm literally dealing with it today, Like we 611 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: had a single pick for this album and then radio 612 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 1: people and other people think it's another song. So now 613 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: we're going to change everything. And I've done that in 614 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: the past and it has not worked. And so my 615 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 1: my stomach, my stomach is turning. My brother is furious. 616 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 1: He's like, we had a plan. Why are we changing 617 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: it for these people? Who are these people? Why are 618 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: we listening to radio? And it's still up in the air, 619 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: And I'm still calling my manager like is this the 620 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: right move? So yeah, I never and I'm a big pushover, 621 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: Like I get that from my mom, and I've always 622 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: like do whatever they think. That's fine, and you want 623 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: to make everyone happy. But there I've never really stood 624 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: up for myself as an artist, and I've never said, 625 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: like I believe in this song and the songs that 626 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 1: I did believe in. Other people wrote articles of like 627 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 1: this was a mistake, this should have been a single, 628 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh my god, I said that. So 629 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 1: so like I've done this with product, where the market, 630 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: the walmarts, the partners are deciding what the product is 631 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: going to be in a line and and The best 632 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 1: thing I ever did was a cocktail that no one 633 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: even knew existed. It had never existed to create it 634 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: was an invention, but I knew it because you don't 635 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: wait for them to tell you. They don't know they're 636 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: gonna like it yet they don't know what it exists. 637 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: I know, right, I'm like, how do you guys? They go, 638 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: this one's a no brainer. I'm like, this one's a 639 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: slower ballot, Like, what do you mean this is a 640 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: no brainer? It's summer, So you have to tell them 641 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: you'll show them what they like, like you'll if you're 642 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: passionate about it and you push it and you commit 643 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: to it, it's contagious. That's what it's like. They think. 644 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: Now it's like all TikTok too, So watch me on TikTok, 645 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: like smothering my song for the world. So I'm in, 646 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: I'll do a dance to it. Thank you. So you 647 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: knew you had it? Do you what? What? What? Or 648 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: you had a feeling that you had it? You know 649 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: you had a feeling that you had it? And do 650 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: you work really hard? Yes, ma'am um. I work very hard. 651 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: The other day I was um mixing all these songs, 652 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 1: running to the studio, listening to the Final Masters, running 653 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: upstairs writing a book that I'm writing about pregnancy. It's 654 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: gonna be great, um, And I was like literally fixing chapters, 655 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: and then I was also picking artwork for the album 656 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 1: at the same time, and I looked grungy and exhausted, 657 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: and my mom's like, I'm really proud of you, and 658 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: I was like thank you. And my kids like on 659 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: the side with my husband crying, and I'm like where 660 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: everyone's okay. And I I take those moments to go like, wow, 661 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: I'm a badass, like working mom, you know, right, you're 662 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: present in being with your family and then your present 663 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: in your work and you're not you're not guilty about 664 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: it or you have a little bit Oh I have 665 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 1: the most mom shame. Um coming up. It's great. It's 666 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: not great. It sucks, but I it sucks because, um. 667 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: I listened to Shanna Reimes or I read SHAWNA. Raimes 668 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: Yes book, you know, and she was like, if you're 669 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: succeeding in the family, then your failing in the career. 670 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: And if you're succeeding in the career, you're failing at home. 671 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: And I was like, fuck, that I don't agree. I 672 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: don't agree with that. I actually was gonna say I 673 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 1: don't agree with that. I was like, there's no fucking way. 674 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: And I see her points sometimes, but like like you 675 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: feel like I'm physically not with him, but I don't 676 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: feel like I'm failing him. I feel like I'm hustling 677 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: and bustling, like I'm getting shit done so that he 678 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: can have the best life ever with me, you know, 679 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: and you're not, Yeah, but you're not listen. You can't 680 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: have a social life and be working out and betan 681 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,719 Speaker 1: and be working and be a great parent. But I 682 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: choose sleep, my relationship, my career, and my kid, and 683 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: like that's all there's room for. So if you pick 684 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: the buckets that you're gonna focus on, you know, then 685 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,479 Speaker 1: I think you can get it done. And you have 686 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: to be present in each of my opinion, you can't 687 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: be like torn when you're with the kid on the 688 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: phone about the work, and then torn about the kid 689 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: when you're at the work Like then you then you're 690 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 1: asses in forty two places and nobody's happen. You have 691 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: to like be in the work zone. When you're in 692 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: the work zone, unapologetic role model and never apologize to 693 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 1: your kids about work or be fully present in the 694 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: bathtub and not you know, answering thee like at night. 695 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,919 Speaker 1: My husband helps me a lot with like I get 696 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: bath to night. Every single night, I do the bath 697 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: and sometimes I get to put him down to sleep. Recently, 698 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 1: during the mixing, I had to run to make sure 699 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,399 Speaker 1: songs are done so he'll put him down for bed. 700 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 1: But he knows once this album is done today or tomorrow, 701 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: I think I'm wrapping it up. Finally I get not 702 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 1: I get nighttime again. I get my bedtime. I get 703 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: to put my kid to bed every single night. Um, 704 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: and that's all about you. The kid doesn't know a 705 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: thing that's going on. I know. I'm like Daryl kids 706 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 1: my ship and you took it away from me. And 707 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 1: he's like, I'm sorry, I'm trying to help you. That's us. Um. 708 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,280 Speaker 1: So what percentage do you think you're lucky and smart? 709 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 1: What percentage lucky? What percentage? This is a great question. Um, 710 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 1: I think I'm very lucky. I think I think I 711 00:34:56,160 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 1: worked very hard and I have a talent. Um. I 712 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: think I'm very lucky and that I found good people 713 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:08,280 Speaker 1: to help me with my career, and then um, I 714 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 1: have a problem with my therapists that she's trying to 715 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,399 Speaker 1: help me, that I don't feel smart at all, and 716 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 1: I beat myself up about it, like lately words have 717 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 1: been hard to get out and you can hear me 718 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: struggling with it, and I feel stupid sometimes and I 719 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 1: don't read a lot of books, and I um. From 720 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: sixth grade through eighth grade, I had allergies to the 721 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 1: school and got sent home all the time, so I 722 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: missed a lot of school, then a lot of geography, 723 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 1: so I have no concept of where things are, and 724 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,919 Speaker 1: I don't either. I'm pretty smart, and I don't read 725 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 1: that much either, and I don't know where anything is either. 726 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: So that does not mean yeah, it's like silly things 727 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 1: like that. Like I in my mom group the other night, 728 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 1: they're like, we want to take you to Ohai and 729 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 1: I've never heard this place before, and I was like, 730 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 1: oh HIGHO and I and they they thought I was 731 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 1: kidding and I was like, guys, I've toured in Ohio. 732 00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 1: I don't want to do a girl's trip there. And 733 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 1: they died laughing. They were like, oh my god, Megan, 734 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 1: Like I felt like the young silly stupid one and 735 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know what a high is, 736 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 1: and it's like this nice place an hour away from here. 737 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 1: I guess, yes, you should go amazing. I'm actually going 738 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 1: to a place near that very like in a couple 739 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 1: of weeks. That's so okay, So we'll do that. Do 740 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 1: you have a big strategy or plan or do you 741 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 1: just do things that you love that speak to you 742 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 1: and just one foot in front of the other. Um 743 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 1: everything I do. I like to make a plan. I'm 744 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,360 Speaker 1: December twenty two. I don't know I'm the Sagittarius or Capricorn. 745 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: I'm right on the line. So people are like, it 746 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 1: makes sense that you work hard and you like to 747 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,359 Speaker 1: plan and you have to, you know, like get ship done. 748 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,320 Speaker 1: So if I'm uh like like I want to write 749 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,839 Speaker 1: a book or I want to achieve other things, I 750 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 1: I go with my managers and I'm like, let's do 751 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 1: this the right way and let's have time. But this 752 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,360 Speaker 1: album I kind of got sacked. They told me you 753 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 1: have all the time in the world, right take a time, 754 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 1: and I did, and then I played five songs for 755 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 1: the label and they were like, let's go now, and 756 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 1: I was like, what you said, I have all the 757 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 1: time in the world, and they're like, we need it 758 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,240 Speaker 1: done this month. But I was like, oh my lord. 759 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 1: It's like usually they tell me like keep trying, you 760 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 1: don't have it yet. They immediately heard these songs and 761 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 1: we're like, you've never been like this. This is the 762 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,399 Speaker 1: perfect let's go. And everyone's like, aren't you excited? Like 763 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 1: I am. I was like I'm. I was like, I'm 764 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,319 Speaker 1: in shock, I think, and I gotta get ship done now. 765 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 1: So and now we're trying to turn around the impossible. 766 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 1: We're trying to do a music video in a week 767 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 1: and get it sent in in a week, and I'm like, God, 768 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 1: I just wish I had more time. But that's good though, 769 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 1: because you have mom brain like mush mom like mashed 770 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 1: p brains. It's good to you like something to be motivated. 771 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 1: I'm learning with my therapist that I have I have 772 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: no control sometimes and that it is what it is 773 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 1: exactly exactly. It's not everything. It's gonna work out. No 774 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 1: one's gonna die, it's gonna be So last question is 775 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 1: your rose and your thorn of your career? What do 776 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 1: you mean that crazy? I call that like a water purse. Yea. 777 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 1: Literally it needs to be filled with Margarita's. But over 778 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: that you finished that every day, because every day and 779 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 1: then some I'm a big water hole. All the girls 780 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,799 Speaker 1: in the mom group got one of these because I mean, 781 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,319 Speaker 1: thank you. They're on Amazon. I'm obsessed. I drink it. 782 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 1: That's not the giant one. It's too much because you 783 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 1: know why because in my pregnancy, well, I was always 784 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 1: drinking water, but in my pregnancy I got so thirsty. 785 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 1: My skin got so dry and wrecked. And then, um, nowadays, 786 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 1: if I don't drink this, I have a headache, have 787 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,879 Speaker 1: a headache right now because I'm not even like deep 788 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 1: in it, um, but I my body craves it at 789 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 1: nighttime before bed, after I've drinking all this and then 790 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,400 Speaker 1: some and my body goes to bed starving of like 791 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 1: they're just so thirsty. And do you feel like it's 792 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 1: really good for your skin? And everything is real? My 793 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:56,239 Speaker 1: skin is top fucking notch. Yeah, it's great. I'm not 794 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,320 Speaker 1: that bitch though that like I drink, I just drink 795 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 1: water and weight sheds off me. Like, no, that doesn't matter. 796 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 1: Can you please write a song called I'm not that bit? 797 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 1: I'm not that bitch? I should I'm not that bitch 798 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 1: and just say all the things that you're not perfect, 799 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,319 Speaker 1: juste a song? What are you not? You're not the 800 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 1: bitch that doesn't do that, like I think you shoute. 801 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 1: That's like my book about pregnancy is like listen, it 802 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:23,719 Speaker 1: is what it is here. What did you to write 803 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 1: a book called I'm not that? I mean a song 804 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 1: that bitch? I would everybody be singing it and I 805 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 1: can't wait to hear credit for it. I love um. 806 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 1: So my rose is like what my favorite thing about 807 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 1: my career and my thorn is like the worst. The 808 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 1: rose is the highlight of your career, the thing that 809 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 1: like it had the most impact or whatever you want 810 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:41,919 Speaker 1: to whatever it is, and then the thorn is something 811 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 1: that you know it was not that great. I mean, um, 812 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 1: the best part about my career, I could say, like 813 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 1: is winning the Best New Artist Amy because it proved 814 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 1: to myself as that I am the artist the face 815 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,120 Speaker 1: that should be singing my songs because my insecure you 816 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 1: saw I wasn't pretty enough to be the pop star. Um. 817 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,880 Speaker 1: But my real rose in my career is that I'm 818 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,359 Speaker 1: able to live with my family and support them and 819 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 1: have them in my house, my brothers, and my parents. 820 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 1: Every single day. My mom is here, and a lot 821 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,879 Speaker 1: of people don't have that luxury, and they don't get 822 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 1: to see their family except for on Christmas. And my 823 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 1: the best part of my career is I need them 824 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 1: and they need me, and we because of my career, 825 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 1: there with me all the time. That's so nice. That's beautiful. 826 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 1: I've never heard that, and I love that. It's amazing. 827 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,319 Speaker 1: I'm lucky. I got good family. I'm really lucky. Um 828 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 1: and my thorn um. I guess is uh. I don't know, man, 829 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 1: there's not really uh, you know what. You know what's 830 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 1: really pissing me off that I wanted to ask you about? Um, 831 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 1: I want four kids, I want a house. Yeah, I know, 832 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 1: That's not what's pissing me off. What's piss me off 833 00:40:56,320 --> 00:41:01,279 Speaker 1: is that in my busy career, there's no like, there's 834 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,279 Speaker 1: no good time to have a kid. There's no And 835 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 1: I was I've had crazy baby fever since my kid 836 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 1: turned one. I was like onto the next like let's go, 837 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,960 Speaker 1: let's make more, and everyone was like do it whenever 838 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 1: you feel like it. And then as soon as I 839 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 1: wanted to start getting pregnant, the label was like, we 840 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 1: love the music, let's go go go music videos run 841 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 1: we need you in the UK for six weeks in Japan, 842 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,399 Speaker 1: and I was like, like, I can't be pregnant ill 843 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,840 Speaker 1: doing all this stuff, and so I put it on hold. 844 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'm literally not giving life because of 845 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:38,240 Speaker 1: my career, and like when do I decide? Like, no, 846 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,279 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it. And my whole team is so 847 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 1: supportive and nice and they're like, you do it whenever 848 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 1: you feel like it, but it will adjust if God forbid, 849 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,320 Speaker 1: you didn't feel well or you got sick or whatever 850 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:51,719 Speaker 1: like things, everything would adjust. Like it's just I I 851 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 1: got pregnant when I was launching a cocktail, so I 852 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: was in liquor stores pregnant. It's not the best to 853 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 1: be walking alcohol tequila while you have a giant belly 854 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 1: with a yeah, But it's just it is what it is, 855 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,319 Speaker 1: So you know, do what you gotta do there, because 856 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,160 Speaker 1: there's also there's also moments in my career that I've 857 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,239 Speaker 1: had where they're like, I'd be like deathly ill and 858 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 1: they say, if you don't play at this one radio show, 859 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 1: they'll never play Megan Trainer ever again on the radio. 860 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 1: And I'm like, they're surrounding my bedside and I'm on 861 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 1: vogo arrest because my throat's bleeding, and they're like, yeah, 862 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 1: but if you don't go and lip sync and figure 863 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,759 Speaker 1: it out, they'll never play your songs again. No, yeah, yes, 864 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 1: have to create boundaries. So what like, I literally I'm 865 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 1: as big as you, but I I just I had 866 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:42,480 Speaker 1: to cancel a signing. I had too many books, book appearances. 867 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 1: And you're the only one who's going to turn the 868 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:45,840 Speaker 1: faucet off. No one else is going to do that. 869 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,799 Speaker 1: And you just if you try to please everybody into 870 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 1: pleasing nobody, and you'll be miserable and you'll be grouchy, 871 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,360 Speaker 1: and something will happen and you'll be a bitch to 872 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,279 Speaker 1: somebody because you didn't want to be there, and you'll 873 00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 1: you'll you'll get you'll get screwed. In another way, you 874 00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 1: have to set boundaries. You have to do the quality 875 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,879 Speaker 1: and not the quantity. And that's it. I'm sorry. That's 876 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,920 Speaker 1: literally a part of my book. You cannot do everything, 877 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 1: and you end up doing the things that you do 878 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 1: better because you're so excited. But if you do all 879 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:13,920 Speaker 1: of it, then you resent the things you are you do. 880 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,719 Speaker 1: I don't want to resent the ship no, because I'm like, 881 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 1: this is my dream life. I don't want to hate 882 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:24,400 Speaker 1: it be mad at it. And then yeah, and then 883 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,359 Speaker 1: you're like then I'm like, therapist, why am I mad? 884 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 1: I have the best life ever? You know? Yes, I 885 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 1: think you gotta push pros play hurt. But there's a 886 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,799 Speaker 1: line and when it bends, it's good and when it 887 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 1: breaks it's not. So you have to set And I 888 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,200 Speaker 1: said it with my assistant, I said it with my partners. 889 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,839 Speaker 1: I'm the only one. And I'm like, no, I've said 890 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 1: it and we're not talking about it again. I'm not 891 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 1: doing that like not, you know, and I'm not lazy. 892 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,080 Speaker 1: But you're the only one who could set that boundary. 893 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:55,600 Speaker 1: I love that. See that's the Massachusetts in like hard 894 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,799 Speaker 1: ship that I'm missing. You know, I never got that. 895 00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:59,920 Speaker 1: I never got that East Coast like boom except for 896 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 1: if I'm an argument with like woman. And so I'm like, 897 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,400 Speaker 1: I would call me anytime. I'll give you the same advice, 898 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:10,359 Speaker 1: different advice anytime. You are wonderful. It's so wonderful. Thank 899 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,279 Speaker 1: you for having me. I want to connect you with 900 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,919 Speaker 1: for sure, and I want to get to see both 901 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:16,839 Speaker 1: of you when I'm in l A. But it's so 902 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,080 Speaker 1: sweet and I can't wait to listen to the album. 903 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 1: I'm excited now, I'll send you something today. I am excited. Yeah, 904 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 1: oh my god, yeah, okay, perfect, tell me I will 905 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:31,399 Speaker 1: not share it on TikTok. Please nice to me. Nice 906 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,240 Speaker 1: meet too. I love you. My whole team is breaking 907 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 1: the funk out that I get to talk to you too. 908 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:38,000 Speaker 1: By the way. Oh yeah, okay, I love you. I 909 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,400 Speaker 1: love you. Thank you for your time. I love you too. Thanks, 910 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 1: by bye. So that was Megan Trainer. What a doll, 911 00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:03,120 Speaker 1: so sweet, so open, vulnerable, interesting, pretty smart, loyal and 912 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:07,960 Speaker 1: a good relationship struggling the mom, you know, struggling with 913 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,279 Speaker 1: work life balance. It was really really wonderful, and it 914 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,480 Speaker 1: was funny because I found myself in the role of 915 00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,880 Speaker 1: giving her advice because you know, she could be my 916 00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 1: child effectively, not effectively factually. So that's crazy and amazing. 917 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,440 Speaker 1: And I always am shocked when people not only know 918 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,799 Speaker 1: who I am, but are like a fan. I was like, what, 919 00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,319 Speaker 1: so her whole team was freaking out and that made 920 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:32,279 Speaker 1: me that that was awesome. Um, and I just loved it. 921 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,440 Speaker 1: I think it was wonderful, so such a great interview 922 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,040 Speaker 1: and I can't wait for her album to come out. 923 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:39,839 Speaker 1: That sounds amazing and I can't wait to tell Brinn 924 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,319 Speaker 1: that I met the star of Spy Kid's Wife, so 925 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:47,719 Speaker 1: that's exciting too. Rate reviews, subscribe, Thank you so much 926 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:48,200 Speaker 1: for listening.