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Speaker 1: Welcome into Jaguars Drive Time this Tuesday, brought to you

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Speaker 1: by the Jet Home Loans. We are only nine short

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Speaker 1: for you today. We're gonna sell you on some draft

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Speaker 1: later on, So thank you for joining us, and Brian Hi,

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Speaker 1: thanks for joining us. I'm happy to be here. Yeah, John,

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Speaker 1: how are we? I'm great, plan how are you guys?

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Speaker 1: We are great and we are busy. So let's get

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Speaker 1: right into big things and no surprise here, it's all

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Speaker 1: about Trevor Lawrence. Big thing one is Trevor Time. I've

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Speaker 1: really the first time that Trevor Lawrence has publicly stated yes,

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence on ESPN joined Kirk Herb Street on his

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Speaker 1: The main thing about Urban Meyer, He's one. Wherever he

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Speaker 1: Thing three is a star is born just like Lady

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Speaker 1: This is he handled it with class at Clemson, the

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Speaker 1: He is. He is the biggest name the Jaguars will

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Speaker 1: my part. This is the biggest night outside I think

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Speaker 1: to a big thing too. And Kirk Kirpstreet was asking

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Speaker 1: with that, we've had a segment since January beyond number

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Speaker 1: the fact that he only played one game last year,

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Speaker 1: you look at a guy who didn't throw an interception,

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Speaker 1: you know, in any of those seventeen starts. So he

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Speaker 1: makes good decisions with the ball. Um no matter where

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Speaker 1: four to um Atlanta as people are starting to project,

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Speaker 1: or if someone comes up to get him, because I

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Speaker 1: think he's going in the top ten, I think you're

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Speaker 1: gonna have to come up to get him. I think

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Speaker 1: you could see five quarterbacks go in the top twelve

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Speaker 1: he's gonna have a chance to sit whether it's New

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have the chance to grow with him. But

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Speaker 1: And that's what's really interesting John about number four with

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Speaker 1: you could maybe go Kyle Pitts. Yeah, I'd be surprising

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Speaker 1: if the Falcons don't go quarterback, especially if, as you

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Speaker 1: Dakoast State kid goes number three, I can't imagine you

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Speaker 1: don't take Justin Fields if you're the Falcons, just because

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Speaker 1: this is you know, I get that for some reason,

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Speaker 1: Fields has fallen down the board. I'd be surprised actively

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Speaker 1: done it. He has the pedigree. It feels like a

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Speaker 1: I think the Falcons will take a quarterback. I think

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Speaker 1: I like the resume. I like we did in college,

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Speaker 1: That was Good Morning Football's Nate Burlson talking just yesterday

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Speaker 1: for joining us. No problem for sate. You guys having

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Speaker 1: me on absolutely. So we just heard you talk about

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Speaker 1: how if the Jaguars get this right in the draft,

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Speaker 1: they could fix this thing and turn it around in

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Speaker 1: one year. So what is nailing the draft in your eyes?

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Speaker 1: What do they have to do addressing the team needs?

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Speaker 1: Um And what's great is with the talent that you

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Speaker 1: already have on the roster. Some of the things that

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Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jackson were able to do in free agency,

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Speaker 1: and you can go in a variety of ways. Cornerback

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Speaker 1: safety helped that defense out, so you can really give

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Speaker 1: teams fits when they try to attack the air going

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Speaker 1: up against that jacks d Of course you can go

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Speaker 1: off as a lineman. You know, one of the struggles

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Speaker 1: that rookie's face, Um, you know consistently a year and

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Speaker 1: a year out as protection. Um. So if you give

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Speaker 1: that rookie more time in the pocket, then they'll be

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Speaker 1: able to hit their weapons. And we saw that a

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Speaker 1: lot with the Joe Burrow last year. As much as

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Speaker 1: we wanted to compliment him, we saw him take a

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Speaker 1: ton of shots in Cincinnati. So, um, when you look

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Speaker 1: at the picks that are available, we know what's gonna

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Speaker 1: happen at number one. And then moving on with is

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Speaker 1: it five picks in the top one hundred, Um, if

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Speaker 1: you if you hit that draft and you hit those

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Speaker 1: knees that you have. Like I said, this turnaround is

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Speaker 1: gonna be a lot faster than people think. Now, you've

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Speaker 1: been in several locker rooms and had a long NFL career,

549
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Speaker 1: so you can speak to this like few people can.

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Speaker 1: You've got a brand new coach and a new staff,

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Speaker 1: You've got a new quarterback coming in, You've got a

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Speaker 1: team that was here, and you've got a free agent

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Speaker 1: class that's not yet to arrive, but getting started. How

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Speaker 1: how tricky is getting everyone on the same page and

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Speaker 1: getting this team built when we're still talking about virtual

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Speaker 1: over the course of the next couple of months and

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Speaker 1: maybe not really full tilt until training camp. How big

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Speaker 1: is the lift for urban Meyer to get this team

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Speaker 1: on the same page. It's going to be difficult at first.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is unique, this type of off season

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Speaker 1: um coming off the hills of so we haven't experienced

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Speaker 1: anything like this. So, Uh, there's teams trying to figure

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Speaker 1: out if they're going to be completely virtual. There's teams

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Speaker 1: right now that are saying we don't want to show

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Speaker 1: up if the protocols are in place, so so having

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Speaker 1: those practices and being able to build that camaraderie and

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Speaker 1: team chemistry that you usually would in a traditional off season,

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Speaker 1: it's just not going to happen this year. And not

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Speaker 1: to mention, you have a new head coach with the

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Speaker 1: rookie quarterback coming in that's supposed to be the savior.

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Speaker 1: But I remember having Urban on the show. He said, look, Neate,

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Speaker 1: I didn't, um, you know, keep the same coaching style

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Speaker 1: my entire career. I have adjusted the way that I've

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Speaker 1: coached um throughout my career and more recently being able

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Speaker 1: to understand going into the NFL, he's already started to

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Speaker 1: create ways to communicate with his players because my my curiosity, UM,

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Speaker 1: it really leaned on UM my experiences that I've had

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Speaker 1: where you have new root, new new head coaches that

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Speaker 1: come in the league and they're trying to win the

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Speaker 1: locker room, and and it's hard to convince men, not

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Speaker 1: just regular men, I'm talking about men with millions who

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Speaker 1: have their own problems, own issues and dealing with real life.

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Speaker 1: Convinced those guys that everything you're selling they're supposed to

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Speaker 1: be buying. So how do you get an organization bought

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Speaker 1: in in the off season. It is as unique as this. Um,

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Speaker 1: what I do know when I was talking to Urban

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Speaker 1: is that he had this competence about He's like, he's like,

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Speaker 1: you know what, CREC. You can look. You can look

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Speaker 1: at college players as young boys, but truly, these guys

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Speaker 1: are young men in these big schools and programs that

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Speaker 1: he's part of. Let's just keep it realty, these are

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Speaker 1: like professional programs in itself. So, UM, he's gonna it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a case by case basis. You can't come

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Speaker 1: in and just blanket your whole squad and talk to

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Speaker 1: him all the same way. You know, you're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: to Trevor Lawrence a little bit differently than you talk

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Speaker 1: to Marvin Jones. And if you can do that and

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Speaker 1: don't be exhausted while you're doing that, eventually you'll find

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Speaker 1: the right way to communicate to the whole team. For sure.

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Speaker 1: You just brought up Marvin Jones and you both played

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Speaker 1: for the Detroit Lions at one point. And I don't

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Speaker 1: throw this around a lot, but when Marvin Jones walked

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Speaker 1: in this building, it was almost Calais Campbell esque, like

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Speaker 1: he owned the room. And now he has d J

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Speaker 1: Chark and Laviska Chanel in that wide receiver room. How

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Speaker 1: big is that for those young guys to have someone

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Speaker 1: like Marvin Jones to look up to. Well, it's big

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Speaker 1: from an XS and O standpoint, just because you have

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Speaker 1: a guy that can come in right away and show

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Speaker 1: you how to be a system wide receiver. Now. DJ

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Speaker 1: Tark is a beast, I mean, I'll do it. Is

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Speaker 1: a number one white out on any team. Um, So

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Speaker 1: you know, let's let's not act like he's just gonna

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Speaker 1: come in and play second fiddle. But what else you

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Speaker 1: get with Marvin Jones? You get the the the other

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Speaker 1: side of what being a professional athlete is. And you

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Speaker 1: know what that's. That's understanding the ins and out being

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Speaker 1: a pro, how to take care of your body, how

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Speaker 1: man and hand on your business office field. He's seen

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Speaker 1: the highs and the lows. He's been, you know, considered

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Speaker 1: one of the best wide receivers, but also been on

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Speaker 1: the team that wasn't winning. So um, having a guy

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Speaker 1: in the locker room that can speak to you when

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Speaker 1: the tough times come. That goes a long way. Just

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Speaker 1: a thought on how they can maximize a rookie quarterback

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Speaker 1: Nate in in the first year, and in your thoughts

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Speaker 1: on Trevor Lawrence in particular. We've seen young quarterbacks come

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Speaker 1: back to Russell Wilson and what he was able to

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Speaker 1: do in Seattle. Um, your thoughts on Lawrence and how

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars can put him in a in a position

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Speaker 1: to succeed early on. Yeah, even Carla Murray, he's shown

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Speaker 1: you know, I feel like the recent success of young

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks that should give everybody in Jacksonville hope that this

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Speaker 1: doesn't have to be some rough rookie year. This doesn't

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Speaker 1: have to be some some some you know campaign that

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Speaker 1: has filled with all of these moments where you're wincing

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Speaker 1: not the case. It doesn't have to be the case.

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Speaker 1: That's why this draft is important. That's why chemistry is important.

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Speaker 1: And also play calling. You know, you don't want them

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Speaker 1: he can catch a rhythm while in the game and

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Speaker 1: then start to unleash it a little bit. Um. You know,

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Speaker 1: I do have faith in the fact that this offense

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Speaker 1: of Trevor Lawrence. It's going to be built around the

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Speaker 1: skill players that's around Trevor Lawrence. Exciting times to come

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Speaker 1: for the offense in general. Nate Burrelson, thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for joining us and taking the time. No problem,

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Speaker 1: you guys, have a good day. Thank you, good bye.

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Speaker 1: All right, you can catch Nate burleson on Good Morning

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Speaker 1: Football every day on NFL Network, and you can catch

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Speaker 1: us Jaguars Drive time next Tuesday, Draft week. Finally, we've

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Speaker 1: waited so long. I don't think I'll be here. I

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Speaker 1: just was booking my flight to Cleveland. Breaking news, Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I'll be there, all right. Fair enough, there you go,

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Speaker 1: John and I will hold down court. We'll do our best.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for tuning in to Jaguars Drive Time.

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