WEBVTT - A Conversation with Jets C Connor McGovern (10/25) 0:00:05.200 --> 0:00:07.680 Welcome to the Official Jets Podcast. We were presented by 0:00:07.720 --> 0:00:10.280 win Bett Betting is a team sports bet together at 0:00:10.400 --> 0:00:14.240 win Bet. We joined momentarily as always by the mad backer, 0:00:14.360 --> 0:00:17.480 Bart Scott. But we start in the studio with Jets 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:21.760 center Connor McGovern five and two. Who would have thought 0:00:21.840 --> 0:00:24.880 before the year. I think you would have thought that 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:27.440 because I looked back at a couple of quotes from 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:32.120 you last December and you said, this thing is changing 0:00:32.479 --> 0:00:36.320 the culture, here is flipping. What did you see that 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:39.560 maybe people now outside didn't see. Uh. It starts off 0:00:39.600 --> 0:00:42.800 with you know the guys that uh, Joe Douglas and 0:00:42.800 --> 0:00:44.800 and and the Johnson's have brought in. You know, you 0:00:44.840 --> 0:00:48.320 could tell when guys are buying into what coach Solo 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:51.680 was was preaching. And then it goes as to Coach Solo, 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:53.680 who I've always said as a true leader of men. 0:00:53.920 --> 0:00:55.920 And when you get the locker room to buy into 0:00:56.440 --> 0:01:00.279 to the common goal to exactly what he's preaching, Um, 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:03.960 you can feel the ties start to turn. Um. Every 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:09.000 good team I've been on, whether it's you know, high school, college, NFL, 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:11.880 it's when the locker room comes together, starts playing for 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:14.920 each other and everybody starts buying into what the coaches 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:18.800 are saying. So, um, I started feeling that you can 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:20.800 just you can see it on the field and how 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:23.919 guys are playing. Um, And now we're kind of reaping 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:26.200 the benefits of that. But this is your six year 0:01:26.240 --> 0:01:29.600 in the National Football League. You've never made the postseason before. 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:33.600 Have you thought about the potential? Yeah, you know, it's 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:36.480 it's something We're still early in the season. There's a long, 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:39.360 long season to go, but you know it is it 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:42.119 is something that you know, you kind of start letting 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:43.800 your mind go if you're sitting there on the couch 0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:45.640 one day and thinking about your like, man, we have 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:48.240 a we have an opportunity in front of us. So, um, 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:50.960 you know, I haven't been in this position all other 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:53.320 but maybe once or twice in my career at at 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:56.240 week seven where you know, have a solid chance at 0:01:56.840 --> 0:01:58.880 you know, really getting into the playoffs and making a 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:01.760 nice run. Um. So to to be in this position, 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:04.760 it's special and definitely don't want to take it for granted. 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:07.800 What was it like for you on the field on Sunday, 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:11.320 you guys traveled to Denver without Elijah More Then Breece 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:15.880 Hall goes down Corey Davis is out, Elijah air Tucker 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:21.760 goes out offensively. I mean, you guys had to basically 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:25.040 tape it together. Yeah, you know we we were without 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:27.960 you know, some of our biggest playmakers. Um, you know, 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:31.239 our best offensive lineman, and um, you know we were 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:33.600 able to pull out the win. It's tough to have 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:35.240 those guys who were down on the field. You know, 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:37.480 you hate to see it. You know it's your your 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:40.680 brothers and arms, and it's it's never easy. But um, 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:42.760 it just kind of shows that how this whole teams 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:45.320 bought in and how the whole team has that common goal. 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:48.280 Um that no matter whoever's out there, you know, they're 0:02:48.280 --> 0:02:50.360 willing to do what it takes to win and and 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:54.200 fight for that common goal. How did Cedric play come 0:02:54.240 --> 0:02:56.560 and pay? Well, yeah, he's he's a freak Gathley, he's 0:02:56.560 --> 0:02:59.440 a he's a first round pick. He's a um you know, 0:02:59.840 --> 0:03:02.520 he's he's he's got the length, he's got the speed, 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:05.200 he's got the size. Um. So yeah, he came in 0:03:05.400 --> 0:03:08.480 and definitely handled it and and uh was played definitely 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:10.720 good enough to win and in a little bit than that. So, 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:14.239 have you ever been involved in a situation before where 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:18.320 you've had so much line juggling, specifically at the tackle position. 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:20.720 If you go all the way back to the spring, yeah, 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:22.799 you know it. I don't know if I've ever been around, 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:26.160 um around this much shuffling. You know, you're always gonna 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:29.799 have some shuffling. Um, but to have this much from 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:34.240 the spring to camp into the early seasons. We're still 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:35.800 in the you know, the first half of the season, 0:03:35.800 --> 0:03:38.280 it's early. Um, to have this much shuffling, it's it's 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:40.560 it's a challenge that you know, you don't want to have, 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:43.600 but um, it's kind of what we're done with right now. 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:45.920 And UM, you know, I have no doubt that whoever's 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:47.920 out there playing is is going to handle you know, 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:51.040 rise to the occasion. And and uh, you look at Nate, 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:54.400 you know he's been absolutely playing, playing out of his mind. 0:03:54.440 --> 0:03:58.240 And Dwayne's out there with you know, a bum shoulders, 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:02.480 playing awesome. And so everybody that's come in is has 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:05.080 done a really good job. Um. And it kind of 0:04:05.080 --> 0:04:07.600 goes back to the lot the way this locker room 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:09.920 is built, the way guys are buying in, um, that 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:12.120 where they're willing to do what it takes. What do 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:14.520 you think about Dwayne's mentality, Like you said, he could 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:17.080 have cashed cash Dan and said, you know what, I 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:19.760 don't feel that good. I get my paycheck and it 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:21.840 just didn't work out here. But he comes back and 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:25.479 he seems like people are gravitating towards him in the 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:28.839 side of the locker room. One you know, he remember 0:04:29.680 --> 0:04:31.840 the day after he did it, came into the locker room, 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:34.719 um or into the training room. I was like, you know, 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:36.520 what's the word one of the docs saying. He's like, oh, 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:38.760 they all want me to get surgery. I was like, 0:04:38.760 --> 0:04:41.080 how many opinions have you guy? He's like like three 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:43.880 or four. It's like everyone surgery is like yeah. I 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:46.839 was like that season and he's like yeah, season ending ending. 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:48.799 And then I just kept seeing him in the training 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:50.880 room no surgery, no surgery, and all the things on 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:55.280 the field, and uh So, I don't think people realize 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:59.080 when you know, shoot more than nine times out of ten, 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:02.240 if if through two, three, four doctors sorry to get surgery, 0:05:02.240 --> 0:05:04.840 the guy gets surgery. So for him to, you know, 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:08.080 at that point, not know us very well, not know 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:10.040 the team very well, You've just gotten here. Really, it's 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:12.200 just started to Mesh and for him to be willing 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:15.560 to sacrifice like that, it's huge. And it just goes 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:17.640 back to the testament of you know, what guys are 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:20.960 willing to do to get this team roll and get 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:22.840 get to get some wins on the board, and and 0:05:22.839 --> 0:05:24.840 and it's something that you know, you see a guy 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:27.159 sacrifice something like that, it's easy to get behind. It's 0:05:27.200 --> 0:05:30.239 interesting because we talked in the spring and you said 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:35.000 after free agency the early stages that you thought Joe 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:37.400 Douglas should be like the executive of the year already 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:39.640 because he liked the group of players that brought in 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:42.760 that was prior to the draft. This draft class has 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:46.200 been something else. The last I've been telling me, the 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:49.920 last two draft classes have been you know, remarkable. Um. 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:52.120 And when you hit two drafts like that, you know, 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:54.320 there's no read, there's no wonder. You're winning a lot 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:56.680 if you can, if you can win on draft in 0:05:56.800 --> 0:05:58.680 and free agency the way we want. I mean, we 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:01.400 went from you know, you know, one of the youngest 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:03.240 if not the youngest team. So now our middle of 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:07.039 the pack, um, then then not only are we the 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:09.280 middle of the pack on guy like age group, but 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:11.159 our young guys are just playing out of their minds. 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:14.680 So you know, when you can win free agency and 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:18.160 win the draft. And then obviously your head coaches is 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:21.240 doing a great job, you know, developing guys. This is 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:23.440 the kind of the spot you're putting your team in, 0:06:23.520 --> 0:06:25.960 so they've done a phenomenal job. Bruce Hall had a 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:29.640 sixty two yards scoring run against the Broncos. He was 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:33.040 well on his way to his second consecutive hundred yard 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:38.320 effort four consecutive games with a rushed touchdown. How bad 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:40.320 do you feel for him personally now that he's gonna 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:43.360 miss the rest of the year. How special of a 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:46.080 player is seeing? How much are you looking forward to 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:51.520 what's ahead for him? Yeah, he's remarkable. He's an absolute playmaker. Um, 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:53.479 a guy where you can you can see where I 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:55.880 think he's a two time All American or whatever it is, 0:06:56.240 --> 0:06:58.400 uh so you can see that come through. He's just 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:00.560 an absolute ball player. He makes play has happened, and 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:03.360 you know, you feel bad, You feel terrible for him. 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:05.000 And I talked to him after the game and I 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:07.680 told him, I was like, you're you're grid and good 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:09.720 enough athlete. You'll come back better than ever. I mean, 0:07:09.760 --> 0:07:11.960 you're gonna he took a lot of hits in college. 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:13.640 He you know, he's I think he was Iowa State's 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:15.480 the only guy that ever touched the ball at Iowa State. 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:18.040 So for him to take that many reps and then 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:20.840 come to the NFL, you know, he's gonna rehab the 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:23.960 knee really well. He's a freak athlete, he's young, healthy, 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:26.400 He'll come back fast, He'll be able to rest his 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:29.200 body and while he's doing it, and uh, next year 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:31.160 he'll be even better than he was this year. Can 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:33.560 you talk about the faith and belief that you guys 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:36.560 have in the other guys in the backfield, starting of 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:39.000 course from Michaelter. I mean, Michael Carter is a freak 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:42.560 to you know, he's a he's an amazing player. Um. 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:46.320 You know, obviously this year, you know, Breecee has kind 0:07:46.320 --> 0:07:48.760 of got gotten a little bit of the spotlight um 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:51.920 over MC. But now it's MC's time time to kind 0:07:51.920 --> 0:07:54.760 of take that back. And you know, like everyone saw 0:07:54.760 --> 0:07:56.360 it last year, he does he does really well on 0:07:56.440 --> 0:07:59.440 the spotlight. So um, and then you got Ty Johnson, 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:01.960 who I think so phenomenal running back. You know, he 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:03.960 has some unmatched speed, the way he can come out 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:06.239 of the backfield and and make plays in the past 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:08.520 game as well. Um, you know, we have a we 0:08:08.560 --> 0:08:11.440 have a really good running backs room and um so 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:13.680 it'll be exciting to see those guys get a little 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:16.680 bit more opportunity. But MC is the real deal as well. Yeah, 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:18.800 no doubt about that. Is it weird for you to 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:21.800 go back to Denver? He started your career there three 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:24.760 years now, it's your third season with the Jets. You 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:27.000 did it last year in Week three, so is the 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:30.240 old hat? I know? Yeah, So last year is definitely 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:33.400 a little bit more weird. This year, wasn't. It just 0:08:33.480 --> 0:08:36.120 kind of felt like another road game where I knew 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:39.360 a little bit more people on the sidelines than before. So, um, 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:41.320 this year it wasn't wasn't quite as different. But I 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:43.280 will say last year it was a little weird to 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:46.800 be back in that stadium on the other side for sure. Yeah. Um, 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:49.560 you would family in attendance, right because they're not too 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:52.480 far away. And can we talk about where you grew 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:55.720 up and how people continue to support you. Yeah, growing 0:08:55.800 --> 0:08:59.360 up in far North Dakota. Um, so my my parents 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:03.040 have been inly supportive. Um, you know, my dad's about 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:06.000 half retired now. So they get My parents love to travel, 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:08.719 so they enjoyed going to the games and coming out 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:10.600 here and seeing family on the East Coast and then 0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:13.319 going to Denver se and some um lifelong friends that 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:16.160 have in Denver, and um yeah, my parents have really 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:18.640 been really been supported my whole career. They came to 0:09:18.720 --> 0:09:21.400 every home college game, and then my senior year they 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:23.720 kind of did the same thing with with traveling and 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:26.280 kind of seeing you know, there's so many cool places 0:09:26.320 --> 0:09:29.680 to visit for the college atmosphere. Um, so my parents 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:33.520 have really really been huge, huge supporters. And then you know, 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:36.880 going back to Green Bay, my wife grew up about 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:40.120 forty five minutes south of Green Bay, so we had 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:43.040 about thirty family members at the Green Bay game. UM 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:46.640 so yeah, my i uh um definitely have the most 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:49.600 supportive family on both sides. My family and my wife's 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:53.880 family are are extremely supportive. So to have you know, 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:56.680 about thirty lifelong Green May Packers fans all in jet 0:09:56.720 --> 0:09:59.680 skiar when you're playing the Packers is uh is definitely 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:03.800 test went to their support. That's awesome. How cool is 0:10:03.880 --> 0:10:08.360 it when you guys pack up get on the charter 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:12.120 like that? Feeling right now Sauce Gardener after the game said, 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:15.720 road Warriors, you guys have went into some very good 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:19.000 environments and come home with victories four and all on 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:21.600 the road so far. Yeah, we've played in some of 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:25.800 the most hostile environments and and been coming out, you know, victorious, 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:29.160 which is which is nice. You know, Pittsburgh notoriously top 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:34.400 five hardest places, Mile High notorious top five, um, and 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:38.840 then uh, Cleveland's got a very good the Dog Pound Cleveland, 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:42.080 and then you know, Lambo's Lambo. So um. You know, 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:44.200 I think all we're missing in the top five is 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:45.880 is Seattle, which we have that one at the end 0:10:45.880 --> 0:10:48.480 of the year, and then Kansas City. So um. You know, 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:50.880 it's been remarkable and it just kind of it goes 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:53.640 back to that the testament of this team and the 0:10:53.720 --> 0:10:56.920 resilience that this this locker room has and and the 0:10:56.920 --> 0:10:59.680 way we've bought in and um, you know, there's not 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:02.280 a day that that that happens that we didn't we 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:05.160 didn't think we're gonna win. So um. You know, everybody's 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:08.439 confidence is high, and um, my opinion, confidence is key. 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:09.880 You know, if you you have to go into every 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:12.080 game believe you're gonna win and you can just feel 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:14.120 in the locker room that you know, it's more than 0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:17.520 a belief. Everybody is pretty is extremely confident. This is 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:21.800 your sixth professional season. How important is legacy for you? 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:24.720 Because the thing that struck me also about some of 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:29.000 your comments last year is you said, in ten fifteen years, 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:32.600 I want to look back and say I put in 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:36.680 the work in this team eventually got over the hump. Yeah, 0:11:36.760 --> 0:11:39.920 it's something that you know, it would you know, I 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:41.800 mean a lot to me. It's something I got to 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:45.440 be a part of UM in high school. It's something 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:47.520 that you know, we kind of got to do in college, 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:49.400 had a couple of rough seasons when we first got 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:52.560 to the SEC, and then we kind of bumped it up. 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:55.280 And then to do it here and in New York 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:57.920 and you know, the biggest city, the biggest the one 0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:00.120 of the best fan bases. To be able to ring 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:02.600 that back, it would be huge and you know, more 0:12:02.640 --> 0:12:04.800 than anything, would just be fun. You know, it's it's 0:12:05.360 --> 0:12:07.920 it's a place where you know, when the people are 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:12.719 behind you, they're incredibly supportive UM. And to be able 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:15.480 to go into this this you know market and this 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:19.160 team and start winning UM, it is special. We're doing 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:22.120 it so, um, it's it's it's been a lot of fun. 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:25.480 What's the difference in Zack Wilson in year two four? 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:28.320 And oh is a starter. Everybody points to the passing 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:31.720 statistics and right now, obviously you guys are gonna need 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:35.080 more balanced down the line, but you're playing winning football. 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:39.680 And you went into a Denver building yesterday the Broncos 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:42.120 were giving up ten points a game at home no 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:44.720 matter who you lost on the field. I thought they 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:47.360 were gonna be at times. You knew that. Hey, listen, 0:12:47.640 --> 0:12:49.920 we gotta be patient, we gotta keep on grinding. Yeah, 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:52.040 you know, I you know, there's a lot of different 0:12:52.080 --> 0:12:55.040 ways to win a football game. And you know, Zach 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:58.000 has has been playing phenomenal. He has been playing, he's 0:12:58.000 --> 0:12:59.839 been doing what it takes to win, you know, whether 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:03.120 it and he hasn't had to throw for three yards 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:06.160 to win football games. And um, you know, I think 0:13:06.200 --> 0:13:09.160 when people start looking at stats, you know, they're just 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:11.560 kind of digging for ways to to to kind of 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:14.360 split split the locker room or whatever. You know, as 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:16.520 long as the only thing that matters and the one 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:18.920 goal that we all have is to win. And if 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:21.720 you're winning, you're doing you're doing it right now? Is there? 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:23.440 There's always things you can do to get better, and 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:26.880 you can always improve. UM. But you know one thing 0:13:26.920 --> 0:13:29.000 about Zach is he's not worried about his stats. The 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:32.360 only stat that Zach cares about his winning UM and 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:35.360 and he knows that the other stuff will come. You know, 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:38.280 our formula right now is kind of wear people down 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:40.640 and then in the fourth quarters score more points than 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:43.360 the other team. And UM, you know that the way 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:46.440 A huge part about that is the run game, obviously, 0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:48.880 but our defense allows us to do that. You know, 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:51.400 our defense is holding us in every game so that 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:54.480 when when we finally have kind of you know, given enough, 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:57.440 body blows and the the other team's defense starts to 0:13:57.520 --> 0:13:59.120 kind of give us an inch and we can take 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:01.760 a mile it. You know, without our defense playing the 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:03.320 way they're playing, we wouldn't be able to do that. 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:05.480 So you know, this formula has been working for us 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:07.960 right now. UM. You know, who knows what it's gonna 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:10.440 take next Sunday, on the Sunday after that. UM. But 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:14.160 I have you know, the confidence that Zach has in himself, UM, 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:16.080 and the confidence we have in Zach. I have no 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:17.960 doubt if if there needs to be a game where 0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:20.720 he has to throw, you know, thirty forty times, I 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:22.480 really hope he doesn't because that makes my life a 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:24.440 lot harder. But if if that's what it takes, that's 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:27.080 what it takes, UM, I have no doubt he can 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:28.840 do it. And I know the old line can can 0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:30.960 hold up and do that as well. How impressive is 0:14:31.000 --> 0:14:33.240 it for you guys as a unit though? That's three 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:36.960 consecutive games without a turnover. That's pretty rare in the 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:40.400 National Football League that type. Yeah, you know, it's something 0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:44.680 that UH coach Saul also preaches, and and every every 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:48.400 coach I've ever been around talks about how important the 0:14:48.400 --> 0:14:51.760 ball is obviously and ball security, um. But to have 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:54.840 the guys buy in and do everything they possibly can 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:57.280 to make sure that ball stays in our hands and 0:14:57.480 --> 0:14:59.680 our defense is doing everything they possibly can to make 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:02.520 sure the ball gets back in our hands. Um. You know, 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:06.440 that's that's another another good recipe for winning football. If 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:08.840 you can be positive in the turnover margin. I don't know, 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:12.440 I think the stats are like six, just just being 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:15.280 plus one in the turnover margin to win, let alone 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:17.400 plus two or plus three, which you know, I think 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:19.520 last week growing plus one, but the weeks before we're 0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:22.680 plus two or whatever. So um, the statistics, you know, 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:26.400 every turnover you get and the positive like the percentage 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:29.520 wise it jumps is huge. So you are a workout fanatics, 0:15:29.520 --> 0:15:32.720 So do you like the mentality of this team? Like 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:35.560 you talked about the body blows, the body blows. Stale 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:39.760 always talks about taking other teams into deep water. Right now, 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:42.720 it seems like the New York Jets for sixty minutes 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:46.080 they're gonna be standing total toll in the ring swinging. Yeah, 0:15:46.240 --> 0:15:49.320 you know, it's it's it's the type of boxing matches 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:51.440 I like to watch, and it's so to be able 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:53.760 to go out and and do the comparable thing and 0:15:53.960 --> 0:15:56.920 in a football game, it's pretty fun. And uh, it's 0:15:56.960 --> 0:16:00.800 it's it's you know, if I could the any alignment, 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:03.360 I think would pick that way to win football games. 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:06.800 Just grinded out, make sure that the coaches have trust 0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:09.000 in the old line that you know, you know, you 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:11.480 maybe hit the first couple of runs are one to 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:14.920 three yards, but just have the trust in us and 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:16.840 the confidence in us that we're gonna keep going. We're 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:19.480 gonna keep at We're gonna keep pounding. And then those 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:22.200 three runs turned into six yards, the four yards turn 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:25.800 into ten and so on and so forth. And um, 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:30.120 you know, especially as the Solilways preaches, is the season 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:32.440 goes on and the weather gets cold, you know, those 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:35.880 body blows hurt even more and and you know, you 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:37.840 you see when you know they were in this staff 0:16:37.920 --> 0:16:42.000 was in San Francisco. Um, that's kind of what the 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:44.760 mentality that they had. I mean, obviously San Francisco is 0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:47.120 still head coached in the same system, but you know, 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:49.680 they go in and they go to Lambeau and whatever 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:53.600 it was nineteen or one, I don't remember the year, 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:55.720 but they ran almost rushed for three yards and the 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:59.800 Green Bay Packers in in um whatever it was late December, 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:03.880 early January or what a mid January in Lambeau to 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:05.800 be able to do that. So, you know, that's kind 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:08.399 of mentality we have and um, what we want to 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:11.320 be able to do. And I think old Jets fans 0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:13.840 are thinking about teams in OH nine and No. Ten, 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:17.840 they used to say ground and pound and then the 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:22.520 Jets hit an elite defense. Different teams, different rosters, different players, obviously, 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:26.600 but there's similarities there. Yeah, for sure, and then I 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:29.120 you know that formula has won a lot of football 0:17:29.160 --> 0:17:31.600 games for a long time in the NFL. Um, the 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:34.680 big flashy you know, five hundred yards of offense wins 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:38.360 as well. But this is, you know, the other way 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:40.560 to win. And you know, I think that this fan 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:42.800 base kind of would would buy in on this kind 0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:44.480 of way to win. It kind of seems to fit 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:48.080 the Jets Moniker, So I love that. Um, how are 0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:52.840 you going to take in Patriots Bears tonight? Patriots? You 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:55.919 guys have at home next week? First time this season. 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:59.160 And actually as far as a three game stretch, you've 0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:01.199 got three games come and up inside the division, two 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:03.560 of them against the Patriots. Yeah, it's it's huge these 0:18:03.640 --> 0:18:06.560 next three games are you know, every game is big. 0:18:06.600 --> 0:18:09.800 Divisional games are really big, but to have three divisional 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:13.520 games all back to back, um, you know that are 0:18:13.560 --> 0:18:17.440 really gonna, you know, affect how this division plays out 0:18:17.640 --> 0:18:21.399 when it comes to the postseason. I think these are 0:18:21.440 --> 0:18:25.040 the biggest three games stretch we have. So, um it's 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:28.280 it's it's big for us these next three games. And UM, 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:32.320 so you know nobody's taking them lightly by any means. Um, 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:34.840 everyone's really excited that's something. The style is stressed you 0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:36.920 guys throughout the offseason, right, we gotta close the gap 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:39.240 inside the ANFC East to get took care of business already. 0:18:39.240 --> 0:18:42.440 Against Miami is such an interesting spot in the schedule 0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:46.560 because three home games against division teams prior to the bye, 0:18:46.880 --> 0:18:49.280 and then you see all those guys after the by 0:18:49.359 --> 0:18:52.360 on the road. Yeah, yeah, you know, I think you know, 0:18:52.840 --> 0:18:55.360 our schedule has been you know, a lot more favorable 0:18:55.400 --> 0:18:57.520 this year than it has been in the past. Um, 0:18:57.560 --> 0:19:00.720 we're not going out west a bunch where. Um, you know, 0:19:00.760 --> 0:19:02.600 we kind of got some couple of home games in 0:19:02.600 --> 0:19:05.240 a row here and get the divisional teams at home 0:19:05.359 --> 0:19:07.840 first so we can try to use that home field 0:19:07.840 --> 0:19:10.000 advantage and get a leg up. So, um, we have 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:12.680 a favorable schedule and and you know we've been capitalizing 0:19:12.720 --> 0:19:16.400 on it and for um, capitalizing on it for for now, 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:18.480 and we just gotta keep using it to our advantage 0:19:18.480 --> 0:19:21.920 and um, you know, just keep pounding alright. Lastly, let's 0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:25.280 end here a couple of personal notes the Able games. 0:19:25.359 --> 0:19:28.080 How are things going there? And again you give us 0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:31.879 a refresher because I think some people are familiar with it, 0:19:31.920 --> 0:19:34.800 but for those who aren't. I want people to know 0:19:34.840 --> 0:19:37.000 that what you're doing and what you're involved in, how 0:19:37.040 --> 0:19:39.160 many years you've been doing it. Yeah, the Able Games 0:19:39.200 --> 0:19:41.440 is going awesome. Um, you know the big thing now 0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:43.760 is is kind of what we've you know, more of 0:19:43.840 --> 0:19:46.359 the Able Games into and is now ABLE and it's 0:19:46.400 --> 0:19:49.440 it's the school curriculum. And we're actually coming out and 0:19:49.440 --> 0:19:54.119 having a day on November fifteenth, I believe is the 0:19:54.160 --> 0:19:57.399 exact date. Um, we're gonna try to start bringing it 0:19:57.480 --> 0:19:59.760 into schools out here. So we're kind of doing it 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:02.480 MO at a at a local high school out here. 0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:05.000 And UM, it's been going awesome. You know, we have 0:20:05.480 --> 0:20:09.160 uh you know there's state where adding states every day 0:20:09.160 --> 0:20:12.080 and and so it's it's been huge and the amount 0:20:12.080 --> 0:20:15.480 of support we've gotten um ABLE has been just absolutely 0:20:15.480 --> 0:20:18.359 taken off. And then with that that just lays the 0:20:18.400 --> 0:20:20.320 foundation for the Able Games to be bigger and better 0:20:20.320 --> 0:20:23.399 than than ever. So you know, ABLE is a school 0:20:23.440 --> 0:20:27.080 curriculum that goes in. It's it's a physical education credit 0:20:27.320 --> 0:20:31.280 UM towards UM the high school. And it's where it 0:20:31.400 --> 0:20:35.440 would be like a p class where a person without 0:20:35.480 --> 0:20:37.920 special needs and then a student or a student without 0:20:37.960 --> 0:20:40.280 special needs and a student with special needs partner up 0:20:40.680 --> 0:20:43.080 and they do a lot of It's kind of like 0:20:43.200 --> 0:20:45.600 physical fitness and just getting more more than just like 0:20:45.640 --> 0:20:48.080 playing dodgeball in your class. There's some fun, there's a 0:20:48.080 --> 0:20:50.359 lot of fun aspects, but it's more of a working 0:20:50.359 --> 0:20:53.399 out together and um, you know. One of the remarkable 0:20:53.440 --> 0:20:56.639 things I saw was the high school and Morehead, Minnesota 0:20:56.680 --> 0:20:59.680 has been doing this for a while before ABLE had started, 0:20:59.680 --> 0:21:03.760 so to see how their students interacted with the special 0:21:03.800 --> 0:21:06.840 needs students versus a school that had just started this 0:21:06.880 --> 0:21:10.960 program was remarkable. And I think that's an aspect. Not 0:21:11.040 --> 0:21:13.679 only are we helping people with special needs, you know, 0:21:13.760 --> 0:21:17.720 get healthier, move around more, um, you know, learn be 0:21:17.840 --> 0:21:20.840 able to be physically fit, to do a vocation. UM, 0:21:20.880 --> 0:21:23.919 you're also allow It's a it's a two way street 0:21:24.000 --> 0:21:26.600 to get because the ultimate goal is to help people 0:21:26.680 --> 0:21:29.720 especial needs get into the workforce. So it starts it's teaching. 0:21:30.400 --> 0:21:32.800 We are in high school. We give them an outlet 0:21:32.840 --> 0:21:35.800 to go compete with the ABLE Games because I'm a 0:21:35.800 --> 0:21:39.520 big believer in competition. And then they get to compete, 0:21:39.520 --> 0:21:41.879 they get to show off their ability, and then they 0:21:41.920 --> 0:21:45.000 get to train into a vocation and when you have 0:21:45.280 --> 0:21:49.119 people that feel extremely comfortable with working with people especial 0:21:49.160 --> 0:21:51.720 needs and especial needs person it allows them to have 0:21:51.760 --> 0:21:55.080 the most success they possibly can in any aspect of life, 0:21:55.080 --> 0:21:58.040 whether it's a vocation or sports or what have you. So, 0:21:58.400 --> 0:22:00.760 UM it's a two way street because UM, you know, 0:22:00.800 --> 0:22:03.119 people that don't have a lot of familiarity with working 0:22:03.119 --> 0:22:04.840 with the people especial needs, it can be a little 0:22:04.840 --> 0:22:07.520 bit stressful. It takes a little bit of a different 0:22:07.960 --> 0:22:11.760 UM skill set than UM something else. So it's it's 0:22:11.760 --> 0:22:14.680 something that you know, we hope to build UM through 0:22:14.720 --> 0:22:18.399 ABLE and then yeah, there's a million things going on 0:22:18.520 --> 0:22:21.600 right now, but it's all going really really getting into 0:22:21.640 --> 0:22:24.679 the schools because that is huge in But the ABLE 0:22:24.720 --> 0:22:29.840 games themselves, yep, what are they and when did they happen? 0:22:30.000 --> 0:22:32.600 So they happen in the springtime so that I can 0:22:32.680 --> 0:22:34.160 be a part of it and you can get as 0:22:34.200 --> 0:22:37.919 many football guys there. But it's a it's a physical 0:22:37.960 --> 0:22:44.840 fitness competition UM that helps all UH. It encompasses every person. 0:22:44.880 --> 0:22:48.520 It's it's fully scalable from somebody that you know it 0:22:48.560 --> 0:22:52.280 could compete in the CrossFit games to somebody that UM 0:22:52.720 --> 0:22:56.520 has is bound to a wheelchair. UM where you're able 0:22:56.560 --> 0:23:00.119 to scale every workout, and that the trainers there and 0:23:00.400 --> 0:23:03.240 the people that write the programs. It's remarkable how well 0:23:03.280 --> 0:23:06.399 they can tie in. And on the same floor you 0:23:06.440 --> 0:23:10.719 see somebody you know that's a uh could be across 0:23:10.760 --> 0:23:14.480 the games competitive walking hands like doing handstand walks. And 0:23:14.480 --> 0:23:17.200 then on the other end of the floor there's somebody 0:23:17.240 --> 0:23:20.840 in a wheelchair throwing a medball and then going after 0:23:20.880 --> 0:23:23.480 it throwing the medball and doing the same length. UM. 0:23:23.560 --> 0:23:26.040 But you know they're matching what muscles they are using. 0:23:26.040 --> 0:23:28.040 You know, it's using their shoulders and their arms to 0:23:28.080 --> 0:23:30.879 throw the medball, just like the person that's doing the 0:23:30.920 --> 0:23:33.640 handstand walk is is using to do the handstand walk. 0:23:33.720 --> 0:23:36.639 So UM to see the ABLE games and you know, 0:23:36.640 --> 0:23:40.240 hopefully we can we can have an event out here eventually. UM. 0:23:40.400 --> 0:23:42.719 Right now there's only one in North Dakota, but it's growing. 0:23:43.119 --> 0:23:45.960 You know, I think where ABLE spreads into the schools, 0:23:46.359 --> 0:23:50.400 ABLE games will come and UH. It's it's truly life 0:23:50.480 --> 0:23:53.280 changing to see and then to see the smiles on 0:23:53.720 --> 0:23:57.399 um everybody's faces, and the camaraderie and and the people 0:23:57.480 --> 0:24:00.280 cheering everybody on and you know there's somebody that just 0:24:00.760 --> 0:24:03.480 you know, gave everything they had on a dead left workout, 0:24:03.560 --> 0:24:05.679 but they crawl their way down the floor to go 0:24:05.760 --> 0:24:08.960 cheer that last person on as they finished their workout. 0:24:09.040 --> 0:24:12.160 It's it's something really special and and uh, I hope 0:24:12.200 --> 0:24:16.000 to bring to to everybody that is awesome. Um, you 0:24:16.040 --> 0:24:19.919 are a gym rat. You've always been. You've always been 0:24:19.920 --> 0:24:21.720 a gym right. As as far as the cross fit 0:24:21.840 --> 0:24:25.919 is concerned, how have you been able to keep weight on? 0:24:26.280 --> 0:24:28.720 You know, because a lot of people cross fit they're 0:24:28.800 --> 0:24:34.199 jacked up, but they don't have the mass because a 0:24:34.200 --> 0:24:36.560 cross fit you have so many workouts and a lot 0:24:36.560 --> 0:24:39.400 of his fast and explosive right, Yeah, so I I 0:24:39.480 --> 0:24:42.520 definitely modify a lot of it um and kind of 0:24:42.520 --> 0:24:45.359 tweak it to to what an old line does A 0:24:45.440 --> 0:24:47.960 low lineman does. You know, we have such a weird job. 0:24:48.040 --> 0:24:50.720 It's you know, a wide out. They they run a lot, 0:24:50.880 --> 0:24:54.200 they're still running and you know, for us it's you know, 0:24:54.760 --> 0:24:58.560 it's kind of like you're doing a three second burst 0:24:58.600 --> 0:25:00.679 of pushing a car or something. So it's hard to 0:25:00.720 --> 0:25:03.040 train for and and going on. You obviously need a 0:25:03.040 --> 0:25:07.359 good cardiovascular base, but just going out and running, you're building, 0:25:07.400 --> 0:25:10.359 you're using different energy systems and stuff. So CrossFit I 0:25:10.720 --> 0:25:14.360 kind of found in in that kind of realm weighs 0:25:14.400 --> 0:25:17.520 some more mimic um, you know what we do every 0:25:17.560 --> 0:25:20.680 day as an offensive linemen um, and then so stay 0:25:20.720 --> 0:25:23.040 strong in that way, but also train that. You know, 0:25:23.400 --> 0:25:25.080 it's a lot of I do a lot of like 0:25:25.320 --> 0:25:28.680 repetitions of something that takes like three to six seconds 0:25:28.840 --> 0:25:30.359 and just do a lot of them with like a 0:25:30.359 --> 0:25:34.160 forty five second break, and um, so I really enjoy it. Um. 0:25:34.160 --> 0:25:38.280 It's been fun trying to tweak UM. I've been really 0:25:38.280 --> 0:25:41.480 blessed me around a lot of amazing UH strength conditioning coaches. 0:25:41.960 --> 0:25:44.040 And to be able to tweak everything that I've learned 0:25:44.080 --> 0:25:49.320 in all the UH newspaper magazine articles and internet articles 0:25:49.359 --> 0:25:51.280 now that I've read and kind of try to make 0:25:51.320 --> 0:25:54.120 it my own is really fun and I really enjoy that. Well, 0:25:54.160 --> 0:25:57.640 you're freak, So if anybody's seasy at the GM, they 0:25:57.680 --> 0:26:00.639 could be like, oh my god. That. So let's end 0:26:00.720 --> 0:26:05.560 here with a little fun all time top bench. My 0:26:05.640 --> 0:26:09.080 all time top bench was only four because I was 0:26:09.119 --> 0:26:12.080 going for the school record. Me and Mitch Morris, We're 0:26:12.119 --> 0:26:15.359 going head to head for the school record Buffalo Bill Center, 0:26:15.400 --> 0:26:18.040 going head to head for the the record of Uh, 0:26:18.320 --> 0:26:21.719 we're gonna try to both hit five twenty because of record, 0:26:22.160 --> 0:26:24.760 or maybe it was records five twenty or we're going 0:26:24.760 --> 0:26:27.679 for five twenty and the record was five fifteen and 0:26:27.680 --> 0:26:32.760 at four, uh, I had toward my pack and so 0:26:32.840 --> 0:26:35.879 we both had to shut it down. So Mitch blames 0:26:35.920 --> 0:26:39.240 me for not having the school bench record. Um, but 0:26:39.320 --> 0:26:41.840 I think I've asked you that before. Obviously he doesn't 0:26:41.840 --> 0:26:44.800 do that anymore, but I have way back in the day. Yeah, 0:26:44.880 --> 0:26:46.720 back in the day we were going head to head. 0:26:46.800 --> 0:26:49.760 So the best I've ever hit was one other time. 0:26:49.880 --> 0:26:53.720 So my best squad, my single best squad was a 0:26:53.840 --> 0:26:57.639 seven twenty UM. But like for the numbers thing, the 0:26:57.680 --> 0:26:59.760 best squad ever hit, which is a school record, that 0:26:59.920 --> 0:27:04.639 was it was I did six nine for five. Get video, Yeah, summer, 0:27:04.680 --> 0:27:07.600 it's an old video, bads, you know before camera phones 0:27:07.600 --> 0:27:10.199 are really good. It's it's grainy and everyone's yelling. You 0:27:10.200 --> 0:27:12.320 could barely see what's going on. But what about lift? 0:27:12.960 --> 0:27:15.560 My best dead lift is about I think I pulled 0:27:15.560 --> 0:27:18.640 a seven fifty one time or seven forty somewhere in there. 0:27:19.760 --> 0:27:22.439 So at the end of the day, when you're not 0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:25.520 playing anymore, you can be crushing in the gym. Still, yeah, 0:27:25.560 --> 0:27:28.720 I think I will. My we're the house rebuilding right 0:27:28.720 --> 0:27:31.240 now back in front of Dakota. We have a big 0:27:31.320 --> 0:27:34.400 gym set up. My wife is also wait in a 0:27:34.520 --> 0:27:37.320 U physical fitness. She was when we were in Denver, 0:27:37.520 --> 0:27:43.920 she was a fitness instructure at instructor at three different places. So, um, 0:27:44.080 --> 0:27:46.360 she's way into it. I know. When you know life 0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:48.040 kind of slows down a little bit, she wants to 0:27:48.040 --> 0:27:52.840 get back into um, instructing stuff. So it's designing the 0:27:52.880 --> 0:27:56.040 gym you were, So it's it's uh, it's attached to 0:27:56.119 --> 0:27:58.200 the garage and so there's two floors, so the bottom 0:27:58.200 --> 0:28:00.480 floor is mine and on the top floor as hers. 0:28:00.560 --> 0:28:03.119 So that's pretty sweet up and so uh, you know, 0:28:03.760 --> 0:28:06.359 we're gonna have to come out there and do a feature. Yeah, 0:28:06.400 --> 0:28:10.680 it'll be fun. It'll be fun when it's done. Great 0:28:10.720 --> 0:28:13.560 catching up is always man, Thank you thanks for having me. 0:28:14.160 --> 0:28:17.080 Wind Bett is bringing the excitement of wind Las Vegas 0:28:17.240 --> 0:28:20.760 to online sports, betting and casino play. Get in on 0:28:20.800 --> 0:28:25.440 all your favorite teams, players, and sports from boosted parlays 0:28:25.560 --> 0:28:29.000 to live in game odds on every major sport. They 0:28:29.040 --> 0:28:32.320 have what you need to win. 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We're presented 0:29:10.240 --> 0:29:13.800 by win bat Bettings, the team sports bet Together when Beat. 0:29:13.920 --> 0:29:16.600 As I mentioned at the top of the pod, we 0:29:16.680 --> 0:29:19.720 are now joined by Bart Scott. In fact, this is 0:29:19.760 --> 0:29:24.400 the second time we're taping this because the New York 0:29:24.480 --> 0:29:29.080 Jets went out and made a trade Monday night. What 0:29:29.200 --> 0:29:32.240 did you think about the acquisition by Joe Douglas getting 0:29:32.320 --> 0:29:37.479 Jacksonville Jaguars back James Robinson. I think is as symboled 0:29:37.520 --> 0:29:39.280 to the locker room that we're trying to win now. 0:29:39.400 --> 0:29:42.120 And you know, we understand that this is a season 0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:44.480 where we could, you know, maybe make some noise and 0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:46.240 compete for the playoffs, and it would be great for 0:29:46.320 --> 0:29:49.120 a young group. I'm gonna go in and a wide open, 0:29:49.360 --> 0:29:53.120 not only just a f C wide open, NFL altogether 0:29:53.360 --> 0:29:57.360 and bringing the gully James Robinson, who's only years old, 0:29:57.360 --> 0:30:00.040 I believe, you know, means that you're you're getting a 0:30:00.040 --> 0:30:02.520 good player, proven player, Pro Bowl player or not a 0:30:02.520 --> 0:30:05.200 Pro Bowl player, Rookie of the Year player, and you 0:30:05.240 --> 0:30:09.440 know he replaces not the speed of Breece Hall, but 0:30:09.480 --> 0:30:13.320 the physicality, you know, being five nine and twenty pounds, 0:30:13.720 --> 0:30:15.440 you know, he's a guy that you know that can 0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:18.200 move the sticks. You know. Michael Carter is a lighter 0:30:18.240 --> 0:30:20.680 back of smaller back, just gives you kind of that 0:30:20.960 --> 0:30:23.960 thunder lightning type of dynamic. And of course, moving Thy 0:30:24.080 --> 0:30:26.240 Johnson into there, we know that he's a guy that 0:30:26.480 --> 0:30:28.480 can play at a high level. So I mean, I 0:30:28.520 --> 0:30:31.280 think it's a win win. Cam Akers is to me 0:30:31.440 --> 0:30:37.160 pretty much almost like uh like Michael Carter and Kareem 0:30:37.200 --> 0:30:40.080 Hunt probably would have cost you a boatload and Cleveland 0:30:40.120 --> 0:30:42.000 still holding on to hope. I believe that they can 0:30:42.000 --> 0:30:44.080 still make a run if they stay close enough. With 0:30:44.080 --> 0:30:47.440 Deshaun Watson coming off, you know of suspension the level week. 0:30:48.240 --> 0:30:50.440 How do you think this is gonna develop over time? 0:30:50.760 --> 0:30:54.560 What you have in the backfield with Carter, with Robinson, 0:30:54.760 --> 0:30:59.800 with Ty Johnson, uh Breece Hall. He's spectacular of core 0:31:00.600 --> 0:31:03.360 of late. They had the sixty two yard touchdown run 0:31:03.360 --> 0:31:06.960 against the Broncos, the Jets only touchdown in that game. 0:31:07.040 --> 0:31:10.240 He's had four consecutive games with rush touchdown. Such a 0:31:10.320 --> 0:31:13.680 threat out of the backfield as a receiver, and also 0:31:14.000 --> 0:31:17.000 he gives you that dimension of being a home run hitter. Now, 0:31:17.320 --> 0:31:19.920 what is that backfield going to look like in terms 0:31:19.920 --> 0:31:23.720 of distribution? In your eyes? Park Well, I think you 0:31:23.760 --> 0:31:26.000 always have to keep Michael Carter hits down, and we 0:31:26.040 --> 0:31:28.440 know that he's had a history of concussions and you 0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:30.720 don't want to over expose him that way as well. 0:31:31.200 --> 0:31:33.320 Um I think thy Johnson, it means that you have 0:31:33.400 --> 0:31:36.320 to keep three running backs up lively. You know, I 0:31:36.400 --> 0:31:39.000 don't know if Robinson has any experience and really playing 0:31:39.000 --> 0:31:41.040 special teams, but if he was coming in as an 0:31:41.080 --> 0:31:43.840 undrafted free agent. I'm assuming that he played forms of 0:31:43.920 --> 0:31:46.040 special teams. You don't want to be able to get 0:31:46.120 --> 0:31:48.520 players that can do multiple things to help you in 0:31:48.560 --> 0:31:50.840 different areas. You know, who knows if he can return 0:31:50.960 --> 0:31:53.840 kickoffs or anything like that as well. You don't try 0:31:53.840 --> 0:31:55.600 and just get all the talent that he has and 0:31:55.600 --> 0:31:58.240 put him in position to be successful. I know that 0:31:58.320 --> 0:32:01.120 thy Johnson catch the ball fluid, I know Michael Carter can. 0:32:01.200 --> 0:32:03.720 I'm not sure if Robinson is a natural catch of 0:32:03.800 --> 0:32:06.040 the ball um, but that was a huge part of 0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:08.760 what Briest did. You know, being able to, you know, 0:32:08.760 --> 0:32:11.560 win the one on one matchups with linebackers and receiver, 0:32:11.760 --> 0:32:15.160 many linebackers and safeties. You know, his presence will be 0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:16.920 missed in the passing game just as much as it 0:32:17.000 --> 0:32:19.240 is in the running game. What does that offense have 0:32:19.320 --> 0:32:22.880 to do moving forward, not only this week against the Patriots, buddy, 0:32:22.920 --> 0:32:26.520 but over the course of these final ten games, Because 0:32:26.560 --> 0:32:29.280 you could make an argument that these were the two 0:32:29.720 --> 0:32:33.600 best offensive players the Jets had on the roster in 0:32:33.760 --> 0:32:37.280 brief Hall and then Elijah Vera Tucker who's done everything 0:32:37.360 --> 0:32:40.560 for this team along that offensive line. Here in the 0:32:40.800 --> 0:32:43.920 five and five and to start well. For me, like 0:32:43.960 --> 0:32:45.480 I said all the time, some time, it's better to 0:32:45.520 --> 0:32:47.760 have a bunch of good players and a few great 0:32:47.760 --> 0:32:50.400 players because you talk about the depth and everybody in 0:32:50.400 --> 0:32:52.360 the NFL. Depth is going to be tested at some 0:32:52.440 --> 0:32:55.400 point this year. And you know, because the Jets have 0:32:55.440 --> 0:32:57.680 a bunch of good players, I think they'll be able 0:32:57.720 --> 0:33:00.440 to withstand because, yeah, you lose the very Tucker is tough, 0:33:00.480 --> 0:33:02.800 but he was filling in for no for George Fant, 0:33:03.160 --> 0:33:05.720 who may be returning you know sometimes, So we'll see 0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:08.880 after the you know, after the bye week, but you 0:33:08.920 --> 0:33:11.120 know he should be getting closer. You know, he didn't 0:33:11.120 --> 0:33:13.320 have a season in the injury. And then Max Mitchell, 0:33:13.600 --> 0:33:15.320 I mean, so you still have an opportunity to have 0:33:15.680 --> 0:33:19.040 good pieces. You know, you can't replace vera Tucker, but 0:33:19.120 --> 0:33:22.320 you know Fant and and Max Mitchell would be you know, 0:33:22.600 --> 0:33:26.520 still a substantial increase. And what the Jets have, you know, 0:33:26.560 --> 0:33:28.800 maybe going this week against the Patriots, you know, just 0:33:28.840 --> 0:33:31.120 having experience and having you know, guys that were filling 0:33:31.160 --> 0:33:33.080 in to go back to their natural roles and be 0:33:33.120 --> 0:33:35.479 swing guys. That's the that's the beauty of being able 0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:38.880 to have versatility and and players that can play on 0:33:38.920 --> 0:33:43.000 the inside, play on the outside rather this receiver, running back, safety, linebacker. 0:33:43.280 --> 0:33:46.480 You know, it's important because this game nowadays is about 0:33:46.520 --> 0:33:49.040 who can last the longest with the best quality pe 0:33:49.240 --> 0:33:53.280 pieces and be able to try and win. What's next 0:33:53.320 --> 0:33:56.520 for Zach Wilson four and all as a starter? Uh 0:33:56.720 --> 0:34:00.280 Robert Sala being asked this week if he's con cern 0:34:00.440 --> 0:34:03.840 about the past game the Jets, I should say, have 0:34:04.040 --> 0:34:07.920 faced Dona Felts, two top past defenses over the last 0:34:07.960 --> 0:34:11.040 two weeks in the Green Bay Packers and the Denver Broncos, 0:34:11.120 --> 0:34:13.879 So we have to take that into consideration. And there's 0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:16.560 that alement the ground and pound working for this team 0:34:16.600 --> 0:34:21.359 that has great defense paired with excellent special teams. Right now, 0:34:22.520 --> 0:34:25.080 I mean, listen, they found it formula. But I think 0:34:25.080 --> 0:34:26.799 you're gonna act Za Wilson to do a little bit 0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:28.839 more now, right because you can't just say, hey, we're 0:34:28.840 --> 0:34:31.520 gonna get a hundred and fifty yards, you know, a 0:34:31.560 --> 0:34:35.440 hundred and twenty yards you know from breeze in big place, right, 0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:37.839 so now you may have the ground upon it. You'll 0:34:37.880 --> 0:34:40.000 remember in this town. You know, it's a team that 0:34:40.080 --> 0:34:42.640 had three good running backs. They used it to wear 0:34:42.680 --> 0:34:45.719 the opponents defense down. They were consistent with running the ball. 0:34:45.719 --> 0:34:48.400 When you think about you know, Brandon Jacobs, I believe 0:34:48.440 --> 0:34:51.360 Ward and Bradshaw, I mean, I think they have that dynamic. 0:34:51.400 --> 0:34:54.240 They have two big bruising backs, you know, Ty Johnson, 0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:57.839 you know Robinson and now you know Michael Carter. You're 0:34:57.840 --> 0:35:00.400 just trying to break them down and like, see what 0:35:00.520 --> 0:35:03.000 if Zach can make plays behind. I think Garrett Wilson 0:35:03.000 --> 0:35:05.960 and Lazare Moore and and MAM's everybody kind of steps up, 0:35:05.960 --> 0:35:08.360 and everybody's gonna get more of an opportunity to get touches, 0:35:08.640 --> 0:35:10.440 you know. So if you're complaining about touches or you 0:35:10.440 --> 0:35:13.120 weren't satisfied with the touches you were getting with those, 0:35:13.239 --> 0:35:15.839 you know, eighteen and nineteen touches are not available. Who's 0:35:15.840 --> 0:35:19.239 gonna step up, you know from a playmaking standpoint and say, hey, 0:35:19.320 --> 0:35:21.040 give those to me. I can, I can, I can 0:35:21.080 --> 0:35:24.360 do something with those. This is the first time since 0:35:24.400 --> 0:35:28.920 two thousand and one, twenty one years, the Jets have 0:35:29.040 --> 0:35:33.040 a two game lead in the division over the New 0:35:33.080 --> 0:35:35.319 England Patriots. Yes, the Jets aren't in first place in 0:35:35.320 --> 0:35:38.080 the division, but with that being said, they're gonna face 0:35:38.480 --> 0:35:41.040 a Patriots team that is three and four, and you 0:35:41.160 --> 0:35:45.280 have an opportunity ahead of you Sunday at MetLife Stadium 0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:49.360 to increase that gap even the three games. Bart, what 0:35:49.400 --> 0:35:51.960 do you think about the situation, the dynamic with the 0:35:52.080 --> 0:35:54.759 Jets and the Patriots right now? I mean, a game 0:35:54.760 --> 0:35:56.520 plan is really right. There is a team that's had 0:35:56.560 --> 0:35:59.120 their number and they're rebuilding, They're trying to figure out 0:35:59.120 --> 0:36:01.640 who they're gonna be going forward after they lost your 0:36:01.680 --> 0:36:04.160 arguably the greatest quarterback of all time. So you wanna 0:36:04.280 --> 0:36:06.840 you wanna. You want to put all that pressure on 0:36:06.880 --> 0:36:08.640 them that they put on you for over the years, 0:36:08.960 --> 0:36:10.239 and you want to try and make sure that you 0:36:10.239 --> 0:36:11.879 can go up about three games and then you see 0:36:11.920 --> 0:36:13.600 him a couple of weeks, you go about four games, 0:36:13.760 --> 0:36:15.760 and then that's one less thing you have to worry about. 0:36:15.880 --> 0:36:18.560 You bury them right, and you make sure that hey, man, 0:36:18.800 --> 0:36:21.239 like all the teams that were beating us here on 0:36:21.280 --> 0:36:23.839 in twelve in the division the last couple of years 0:36:23.920 --> 0:36:25.880 or in six, you take care of business and you 0:36:25.880 --> 0:36:28.600 you inflict that pain and that disappointment that they inflicted 0:36:28.680 --> 0:36:31.200 on you for the last couple of seasons. And that's 0:36:31.320 --> 0:36:33.600 about maturity, right. You can't go in there emotionally. You 0:36:33.600 --> 0:36:35.400 gotta go in there to get the job done, and 0:36:35.400 --> 0:36:37.680 you understand that it's a doable and it's a task 0:36:37.719 --> 0:36:41.800 that is doable. You saw yesterday, you know the Chicago Bears, 0:36:42.280 --> 0:36:44.160 you know who is a team that's on the rebuild. 0:36:44.560 --> 0:36:46.360 Come up and take advantage and punch this team in 0:36:46.400 --> 0:36:48.719 the mouth. So now you understand that it's gonna be 0:36:48.719 --> 0:36:50.759 a little bit more personal because it's a rivalry game, 0:36:50.920 --> 0:36:53.399 is a divisional game. They know you, you know them, 0:36:53.840 --> 0:36:56.480 but reintroduce yourself to him because they may think that 0:36:56.520 --> 0:36:59.719 you are a certain way and that things are still compactic, 0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:02.440 that they have your number, swim that you think different. 0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:05.520 Can they have a lasting impact the way they lost 0:37:05.800 --> 0:37:08.960 on Monday Night Football thirty three to fourteen. A lot 0:37:09.000 --> 0:37:12.080 of people would say that game wasn't as close as 0:37:12.120 --> 0:37:14.880 the score would indicate. The Bears at an opportunity to 0:37:14.920 --> 0:37:17.319 put it in a touchdown at the end and they 0:37:17.360 --> 0:37:20.440 kneeled the ball down. Uh. The reason why I ask 0:37:20.520 --> 0:37:25.200 you that is because it's interesting. Last year in New England, 0:37:25.880 --> 0:37:31.000 the Patriots hung fifty plus on the Jets. The tide 0:37:31.120 --> 0:37:35.560 is totally turned when you're looking at these teams. Yeah, 0:37:35.520 --> 0:37:37.719 if if I'm the Jets, I'm trying to inflict that pain. 0:37:37.800 --> 0:37:39.440 If I have an opportunity to run to score up. 0:37:39.600 --> 0:37:41.160 You know, I remember running the score up right, And 0:37:41.400 --> 0:37:45.279 like I said, there's no there's no sportsmanship among rivals. 0:37:45.280 --> 0:37:47.680 Like they hate you, you hate them. You know when 0:37:47.680 --> 0:37:50.239 they were they're up, they take advantage. When you're up, 0:37:50.320 --> 0:37:52.359 you take advantage. Make them feel some of that pain 0:37:52.480 --> 0:37:55.120 used that its motivation, how they embarrass you last year, 0:37:55.320 --> 0:37:58.120 And make sure that they feel embarrassed. But more more 0:37:58.160 --> 0:37:59.800 than that, make sure that you walk out with the 0:37:59.800 --> 0:38:02.320 big three right, because that's the best way to to 0:38:02.400 --> 0:38:04.879 kind of serve that revenge is cold. If you can 0:38:04.880 --> 0:38:06.360 put up fifty, you put up fifty. But if you 0:38:06.360 --> 0:38:08.840 can win three zero, that's three zero. You do what 0:38:08.920 --> 0:38:10.920 you have to do. And I will put the challenge 0:38:10.920 --> 0:38:12.960 on the defensive line to step up, because last week 0:38:13.000 --> 0:38:15.760 gives the defensive backs that stepped up and really carry 0:38:15.800 --> 0:38:18.879 the carry the water, so to speak. So it's time 0:38:18.960 --> 0:38:20.319 for this d line to step up and have a 0:38:20.320 --> 0:38:23.680 great game. And a quarterback that's mobile, but not Lamar 0:38:23.800 --> 0:38:26.560 Jackson or Jalen Hurts type of mobile. You should better 0:38:26.600 --> 0:38:28.480 get to him and win at the line of scrimmage. 0:38:28.480 --> 0:38:31.000 You know, look at Troy Brownie struggled yesterday. You know 0:38:31.040 --> 0:38:32.600 you try and make sure that he doesn't get right 0:38:32.640 --> 0:38:34.560 because you know that practice is going to be tough 0:38:34.600 --> 0:38:36.040 for them on a short week. But it's gonna be 0:38:36.120 --> 0:38:39.040 tough for them because you're looking at you know, Bill 0:38:39.080 --> 0:38:41.920 Belichick being embarrassed, guys getting called out in film study. 0:38:42.360 --> 0:38:43.960 You know they're gonna come out there. You're gonna get 0:38:44.000 --> 0:38:46.120 their best effort because they were embarrassed in front of 0:38:46.120 --> 0:38:49.160 the national television and they're gonna try and come back 0:38:49.160 --> 0:38:52.880 and get retribution and really against the team that people 0:38:52.920 --> 0:38:55.080 think are there Darling, you know, good story to have 0:38:55.200 --> 0:38:57.799 in the Jets. What's the biggest surprise in NFL right now? 0:38:57.880 --> 0:39:01.200 You got the New New York team who have combined, 0:39:01.239 --> 0:39:03.759 I believe, with an eleven and three record. You have 0:39:03.920 --> 0:39:08.719 the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Tom Brady struggling to put 0:39:08.760 --> 0:39:11.720 any kind of points on the board. You have Aaron 0:39:11.840 --> 0:39:16.200 Rodgers uh under five hundred and they're facing the Buffalo 0:39:16.280 --> 0:39:19.719 Bills this week. When you look at you got the 0:39:19.719 --> 0:39:22.040 Patriots who are three and four. Biggest surprise in I 0:39:22.160 --> 0:39:24.840 file right now, I mean the biggest surprise to me 0:39:24.960 --> 0:39:28.799 is Geno Smith and the Seattle Seahawks are first in 0:39:28.800 --> 0:39:32.120 the division. Uh. You know, Kenneth Walker, somebody who I'm 0:39:32.200 --> 0:39:34.560 very familiar with, you know, got a late start, but 0:39:34.600 --> 0:39:36.800 you know he was gonna push Breefe, you know for 0:39:36.880 --> 0:39:39.279 a Rookie of the Year. Anyway, He's a dynamic back. 0:39:39.320 --> 0:39:41.400 You know, they were one and two in the draft, 0:39:41.440 --> 0:39:43.879 one and two in the Big ten, and he's playing 0:39:43.880 --> 0:39:46.239 at a high level hundred six yards. Gino Smith is 0:39:46.239 --> 0:39:49.000 one of the most accurate quarterbacks PBR rating top five, 0:39:49.080 --> 0:39:51.279 I believe. And we thought this was a rebuild year 0:39:51.320 --> 0:39:54.800 where maybe Seattle was gonna play for a future quarterback 0:39:54.800 --> 0:39:57.120 and high draft pick. But it looks to me like 0:39:57.160 --> 0:39:59.320 they're right where they need to be. And it's crazy 0:39:59.360 --> 0:40:02.840 the fact that maybe Seattle's pick is gonna be lord 0:40:02.920 --> 0:40:04.680 than the one that they're they're gonna get from Denver, 0:40:05.080 --> 0:40:07.640 the one from Denver, maybe the one that allows him 0:40:07.719 --> 0:40:09.400 to get a quarterback if they want to get a 0:40:09.440 --> 0:40:11.880 premium player that can be a top eye pick, and 0:40:11.920 --> 0:40:15.200 they're pick maybe a top fifteen pick or twenty that 0:40:15.520 --> 0:40:18.400 would be crazy. Uh, And the Jets do meet the 0:40:18.480 --> 0:40:22.920 Seahawks out in the Pacific Northwest week seventeen, and both 0:40:22.960 --> 0:40:26.319 those teams could figure into the playoff picture. I don't 0:40:26.320 --> 0:40:28.800 think a lot of people thought that before the season final. 0:40:28.840 --> 0:40:32.360 Thought here to British Shaw Ferguson entering the Ring of 0:40:32.440 --> 0:40:36.320 Honor Sunday at MetLife Stadium, a former teammate of yours, 0:40:36.520 --> 0:40:40.040 A kid who grew up in Freeport on Long Island. 0:40:40.520 --> 0:40:43.640 I think he missed one snap due to a trick 0:40:43.680 --> 0:40:46.759 play throughout his career, the anchor at left tackle for 0:40:46.840 --> 0:40:50.080 ten seasons for this team. Your thoughts, yeah, are man 0:40:50.080 --> 0:40:52.560 in class of centified. I think he's very deserved and 0:40:52.560 --> 0:40:54.879 I'm happy for him. I wish I could be there, 0:40:54.920 --> 0:40:56.839 but unfortunately I'm gonna be covering the game, but I'll 0:40:56.880 --> 0:40:59.360 be there in spirit. One of the best teammates have 0:40:59.400 --> 0:41:02.000 ever been around, not only a champion on the field, 0:41:02.000 --> 0:41:03.560 but off the field and what he did around his 0:41:03.600 --> 0:41:09.400 neighborhood and Covenant House, you know, to really attack teenage homelessness. 0:41:09.600 --> 0:41:11.560 You know, I was part of you know, his work 0:41:11.719 --> 0:41:15.320 sometimes within the community. UM, I couldn't be more proud 0:41:15.360 --> 0:41:18.279 of him and happy that he gets his award, he 0:41:18.280 --> 0:41:21.439 gets to get his flowers. All right, brother, you remain 0:41:21.520 --> 0:41:23.600 a champion in our eyes as well. We'll see you 0:41:23.640 --> 0:41:25.359 next week. I appreciate it.