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Speaker 1: Hi, guys, Welcome to an episode of Legally Brunette Presents

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Speaker 1: This is Till Death Do Us Part, where we talk

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Speaker 1: about husbands who off their wives and wives who take

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Speaker 1: out their husbands. I'm Emily Simpson, I'll be your host

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Speaker 1: today and my.

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Speaker 2: Co host Shane.

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Speaker 1: Okay, before we start, we were just having a conversation

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Speaker 1: before we started recording, so I feel like maybe we

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Speaker 1: should just continue it. Well, just a little bit of

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Speaker 1: things that have been in the news lately is the

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Speaker 1: corn hole player. And we were just talking about that

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Speaker 1: and I was saying to you, I don't know what

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Speaker 1: corn hole is, and you said, it's a sport. No,

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Speaker 1: that's not what you said.

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Speaker 2: It's a sport. You have a bean bag and you

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Speaker 2: toss it in a across the way and you try

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Speaker 2: to get it in the hole. There's different points.

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Speaker 1: How is that a sport? I thought this was just

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Speaker 1: something that when I showed up at a.

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Speaker 2: Barbecue when they're cheering.

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Speaker 1: Really it is because it's it's so athletic and it's

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Speaker 1: so skilled.

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Speaker 2: That is cornhole.

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's just something you do in your

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Speaker 1: back hard during a barbecue.

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Speaker 2: There's darts. Is that a sport?

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Speaker 1: Okay, it makes no sense to me that cheer is

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Speaker 1: not considered a sport that would be in the Olympics,

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Speaker 1: but corn like cornhole Olympics. I don't know. I'm asking you. No,

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Speaker 1: I don't think so, you don't think so anyway, all right,

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Speaker 1: So I just wanted to touch there's the the the

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Speaker 1: news story of the guy who is a quadruple amputee,

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Speaker 1: but he's also a cornhole like a champion, and he's

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Speaker 1: in the news for murder. So anyway, we were just

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Speaker 1: discussing that, but we're going to talk about that later

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Speaker 1: in another episode. But I just want to bring it

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Speaker 1: up because it's on current events and I didn't know

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Speaker 1: what cornhole was.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so do.

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Speaker 1: You have That's it? You just throw bean bags into

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Speaker 1: a hole. Yes, and that's and he's a champion. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I'm guessing bean bags didn't have beans in them originally.

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Speaker 2: They probably had colonels or something.

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Speaker 1: Oh, and that's why it's called I'm discussing. All right. Well, anyway,

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Speaker 1: let's move on to what we were going to talk

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Speaker 1: about today, which is we're going to talk about the

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Speaker 1: Corey Richands trial. Now, we did an episode on Corey

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Speaker 1: Richards a few months back, So if you have not

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Speaker 1: listened to it, you can find that episode where we

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Speaker 1: go more in depth into the murdered. But I wanted

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Speaker 1: to do an update on the tepies. This is the

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Speaker 1: case that took place in Columbus, Ohio. It was the

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Speaker 1: husband and wife that were murdered in their home by

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Speaker 1: allegedly the ex husband of the wife. Remember he's like

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Speaker 1: the medical doctor.

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Speaker 2: Oh and he hadn't hit you know, he was far

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Speaker 2: removed from her for a long time. They didn't have

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Speaker 2: kids together, they weren't tied together in any way. It

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Speaker 2: was almost randomly like he showed up four years later

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Speaker 2: or something, right, eight years later.

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Speaker 1: Right, So there have been some updates.

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Speaker 2: Saying it's a murder in Ohio doesn't narrow it down

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Speaker 2: very much.

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Speaker 1: I know, I know we've talked about this before because

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Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of Forensic File, and if you

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Speaker 1: ever watch Forensic Files episodes, now that I'm saying this

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Speaker 1: to you, if you watch Forensic there's actually Forensic Files

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Speaker 1: one and two, but if you watch them, for some reason,

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Speaker 1: the majority of the cases take place in Ohio. So anyway,

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Speaker 1: this is another case in Ohio. So this is Spencer

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Speaker 1: and Monique Tepi. So according to the coroner's findings, So

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Speaker 1: this is what the new update is, is that the

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Speaker 1: medical examiner's report has just come out recently and it

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Speaker 1: has been made public. So originally I believe the report

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Speaker 1: was that he was shot once and she was shot once,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not sure why that information came out because

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Speaker 1: it's not accurate. Now that the medical examiner's report has

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Speaker 1: come out, So according to the coroner's findings, thirty nine

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Speaker 1: year old Monique suffered a gunshot wound to the right

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Speaker 1: much more severe than they were initially reporting. Okay, several

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Speaker 1: of those wounds were to her torso, including three to

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Speaker 2: But do we need to know all that information? I mean,

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Speaker 2: as a lay person, it's like she was shot and killed.

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Speaker 2: Do we need to know medically? Like how Yes, we

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because now we have more information about this case.

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Speaker 1: Than I'm telling you. Initially it was reported that they

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Speaker 2: But how does it help with this criminal case?

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Speaker 1: It doesn't help, but does well. First of all, it

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Speaker 1: just gives us more things to talk about. She was

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Speaker 1: shot nine times. To me, that is a big difference

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Speaker 1: between being shot once and being shot nine times. Nine

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Speaker 1: times is an overkill, nine times is rage? Nine times

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Speaker 1: is revenge or hate or like there's something more than

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Speaker 1: I just want these people dead.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I figure if you kill it would probably be

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Speaker 2: more than nineteen It would be.

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Speaker 1: Way more than nine times. The report further stated that Spencer,

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Speaker 1: this is her husband, was shot seven times, hitting the torso,

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Speaker 1: the chest, his extremities, and a fatal.

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Speaker 2: I mean he had a reload too, Yeah, in order

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Speaker 2: to I don't know what kind of gunny. But if

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Speaker 2: he had a reload, like he was like, okay, I'm

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Speaker 2: not done with you, and he adds more bullets and

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Speaker 2: they shoot some more, I'm just yeah, let's say it

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Speaker 2: was a six shooter. I have no idea. Let's say

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Speaker 2: it was a six shooter. He shot her six times, reloaded,

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Speaker 2: shot her three times, shot him three times, reloaded, then

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Speaker 2: shot another four times.

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Speaker 1: Right, And that's the discussion. That's what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 1: This is more than just someone that's snuck into their

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Speaker 1: like to me, this is a rage killing. And to

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Speaker 1: be able to shoot someone in the head and then

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Speaker 1: and then you're shooting the extremities And is that because

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Speaker 1: they're trying to get away and he shoots them in

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Speaker 1: the leg and the arms and I don't know anyway,

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Speaker 1: I guess it comes down to motive, because, like we

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Speaker 1: removed from their life, at least that's the way it looked,

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Speaker 1: right right. You traveled a long way to get there.

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Speaker 2: They were married like a short period.

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Speaker 1: Very short period, and they went their separate ways. And

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Speaker 1: I think she even walked away and gave him the

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Speaker 1: It wasn't even like there was contention as far as

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Speaker 1: So where this rate, you have.

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Speaker 2: The gun too, I'm out here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. The Columbus, Ohio home where Spencer and Monique Teppe

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Speaker 1: were murdered is listed for sale on Zillo. I do

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 1: We were talking about this the other day. You know,

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Speaker 1: people say, oh, I googled that person or something. I

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Speaker 1: don't google. I like to Zillo people, like if I

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Speaker 1: have someone's address, if I'm guilty of this, I will

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Speaker 1: just admit it. If I get invited to a party,

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Speaker 1: or I get an invite for a party and it

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Speaker 1: has an address on it, like, I like to zillow it.

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Speaker 1: I want to see what people paid for their house,

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Speaker 1: what it looks like, the inside looks like, if they rent,

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Speaker 1: if they own. I'm a Zillo person.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Not because you judge people. You're just curious.

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Speaker 1: I'm just curious. I just want to know.

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Speaker 2: No judgments here.

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Speaker 1: No, So the house is for sale. It's on Zillo.

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Speaker 1: The property is a four bedroom, four bathroom house with

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Speaker 2: Were they murdered in the house?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Thought it was in a car.

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Speaker 1: What, No, it was not in a car. It was

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Speaker 1: in the house in the middle of the night. He's

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Speaker 1: snuck in the There's.

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Speaker 2: A lot of crimes going on, and they overlap. I

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Speaker 1: There were children in the home, and I believe it.

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Speaker 2: The house where there was such a tragedy.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but it says the asking price is

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Speaker 1: seven hundred and seventy five thousand, and that Zillo listing

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Speaker 1: has been viewed by over sixty thousand people in less

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Speaker 1: than twenty days.

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Speaker 2: So many of those was you, I hate.

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Speaker 1: A lot of it was me. Actually, I thought it like,

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Speaker 1: at some point we need a legally brunette like podcast

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Speaker 1: on the road where we traveled to all of these

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Speaker 1: act if you want to reenact, I don't want to reenact.

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Speaker 1: I just want to travel to all of these places.

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Speaker 1: We could start in Ohio. We could make our way

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Speaker 1: to Utah. There's a lot going on in Utah. Then

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Speaker 1: we could just, you know, make our way over to Idaho.

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Speaker 2: We're not interested.

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Speaker 1: You're not interested? All right? Well, if anyone else is

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Speaker 1: interested in a legally brunette road trip with me, let

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Speaker 2: It.

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Speaker 1: We could go visit all of the homes. I think

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Speaker 1: that's great Zillow dot Com. Do you hear me? All right,

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Speaker 1: let's move on to the Corey Richins trial. This is

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Speaker 1: what we're going to talk about today. Like I said before,

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Speaker 1: we did an episode on Corey Richards. This is before

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Speaker 1: she went to trial. So if you would like to

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Speaker 1: listen to that episode, you can find it under legally

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Speaker 1: Brunette Unlet's just do a brief synopsis so everybody can

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Speaker 1: kind of catch up where we are before she goes

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Speaker 1: to trial. So Corey Richin is a Utah mother of

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Speaker 1: three whose husband named Eric Richards was found dead in

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Speaker 1: their home in March of twenty twenty two. At first,

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Speaker 1: his death appeared sudden and unexplained. You know, they do

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Speaker 1: when they when she called nine one one, you know,

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Speaker 1: they were thinking initially that it was a brain aneurysm

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Speaker 1: because he's young, he's in his thirties, he doesn't have.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there was no signs of felt looking at him, right.

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Speaker 1: He died in his sleep. He'd been dead a while

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Speaker 1: when they arrived. And also they said there was a

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Speaker 1: a brain aneurysm. Yeah, his cornhole, that's where the blood

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Speaker 2: So now she's at this point, she's thinking, so far,

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Speaker 1: She's like, perfect, let's go with that's a good book.

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Speaker 2: Publisher going, it's a go, it's a it's gonna work. Yes.

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Speaker 1: So at first his death appeared sudden and unexplained, but

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Speaker 1: a later investigation determined that he had very high levels

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Speaker 1: of fentanyl. He had five times the normal limit, which

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Speaker 1: She's the golden right, she's the grieving widow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so the publishing company, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: The retaining a huge wall, right So then in March

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Speaker 1: This is Katie Richards Benson. Corey opened a bank account

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Speaker 1: it's it's interesting that they they were a young couple

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Speaker 2: It sounds like she's trying to make something of herself,

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Speaker 2: like she's trying to buy some type of you know, yeah,

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Speaker 1: You know. I in this twenty twenty special I watched

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Speaker 2: So I was just trying to jump ahead and get

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Speaker 2: like a Megan Markle. She's always do you do you follow?

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Speaker 1: Do you follow Megan Markle?

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Speaker 2: I follow her stories. She's always trying to be somebody

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Speaker 1: Called, mogul, mogul mogul. So you this is new. You

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Speaker 2: I hate follow? You hate follow her online? I follow

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Speaker 2: the stories. Will you have as Ever? Jam?

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Speaker 1: You don't know that this is she sas right now?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's and their business is called as Ever? And

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Speaker 2: then Netflix like dumped her. Have you ever seen her

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Speaker 2: reality shows?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that's another thing. We should recap them.

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Speaker 1: You want to recap Megan, it's pretty good.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: I love that you hate follow her.

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Speaker 2: It got canceled.

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Speaker 1: All right. Around October of twenty twenty, Eric is said

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Speaker 2: She sells candles. Oh my gosh, she sells candles, and

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Speaker 2: a lot of people have complained that they don't have wixom.

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Speaker 1: Why would someone of her notoriety out there selling candles

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Speaker 1: Corey Richards. Eric is said to have met with a

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Speaker 2: You know, and this is when I in anticipation of

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Speaker 1: That's my question, because there is a point in time

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Speaker 2: It's like, I think my wife's trying to kill me.

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Speaker 2: Let me move my funds over here, right, It's like, no,

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Speaker 1: So this isn't twenty twenty. And I don't know if

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Speaker 1: You know that is the million dollars.

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Speaker 2: One thing. If you're like, you know what, I'm trying

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Then we get to January of twenty

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Speaker 2: Found guilty of forgery.

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Speaker 1: She obtained the drugs from her occasional housekeeper, Carmen Labber,

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Speaker 1: Corey initially asked her to obtain prescription pain pills, allegedly

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Speaker 1: Yeah, why wouldn't that.

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Speaker 2: Person is go get there her own obviously, I mean,

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Speaker 2: we know why she wanted it, but is this person

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Speaker 1: Well, this person has a long history of criminal activity.

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Speaker 2: Okay, this is Karmen. Why she even may give her

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Speaker 1: trail that has anything to do with, you know, her husband.

440
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,280
Speaker 1: So she makes up some story about how it has

441
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,400
Speaker 1: to do with some other guy that has back pain

442
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:28,000
Speaker 1: or something. I don't know, but Carmen Lauber is she's

443
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:32,280
Speaker 1: had a long history of being arrested for drugs, selling, distributing,

444
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:37,040
Speaker 1: being involved in drugs, and so Corey asked her to

445
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:41,400
Speaker 1: get fentanyl for her, and then she asks her Then

446
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:42,760
Speaker 1: she comes back to her and tells her that she

447
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,480
Speaker 1: needs something stronger, and she quote says some of the

448
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:50,119
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson stuff. So I guess that's how she describes it.

449
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 1: Carmen Lauber ends up giving Corey fifteen to twenty fentanyl pills,

450
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,679
Speaker 1: which Corey allegedly paid nine hundred dollars for. Now we

451
00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:02,199
Speaker 1: get to February fourteenth of twenty twenty two. This we

452
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 1: believe is the first time that Corey tried to take

453
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:06,920
Speaker 1: out or her husband. Do you remember we talked about

454
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 1: this in the earlier episode we did where it was

455
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 1: Valentine's Day and she makes him a sand Well, she

456
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,159
Speaker 1: didn't make the sandwich. She actually bought the sandwich and

457
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 1: she went and picked it up. It was a bagel.

458
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 1: It was a bagel sandwich. And we believe that's the

459
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 1: first time that she tried to kill him with fentanyl.

460
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 2: She put it in the bagel.

461
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,399
Speaker 1: Well, that's what I mean. The thing is, there's no

462
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,719
Speaker 1: smoking gun, there's no video of her putting it in

463
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,639
Speaker 1: the bagel, there's no video of her putting it in

464
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 1: the Moscow mule. I mean, that's the that's the missing piece, right.

465
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 1: But obviously he believed that she was trying to kill him,

466
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 1: and this was on the first time, was on February fourteenth,

467
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,520
Speaker 1: because she bought him a bagel sandwich for Valentine's Day.

468
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 2: I think she even left him mind. Why if he

469
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 2: why is he letting her give her give him food?

470
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,399
Speaker 1: Well, why is he still living with her? Why is

471
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 1: he still married to.

472
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 2: Because didn't he tell his sister or didn't he who

473
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 2: did he? He told someone that, like I think she's

474
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 2: trying to kill me, right, well, I believe some friends,

475
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 2: So imagine like okay, so he's texting or calling and

476
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 2: he's like, hey, my wife's trying to kill me. Hold on,

477
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 2: she's bringing me a sandwich. I gotta go. She brought

478
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:09,440
Speaker 2: me a sandwich and a drink.

479
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 1: Well, so he takes a bite at the sandwunch. She

480
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 1: leaves it for him on Valentine's Day. I think she

481
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 1: leaves like a little cute note like I love you,

482
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 1: Happy Valentine's Day.

483
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 2: Make sure enjoy your bagel.

484
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 1: Make the whole thing. Don't just take a bite anyway.

485
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 1: He takes one bite of it and he immediately has

486
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 1: a reaction to it, and he thinks it's like some

487
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 1: kind of allergic reaction. I guess he takes a benajol

488
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 1: and he also gives himself.

489
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 2: That's where she went wrong. She did it too much,

490
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:38,879
Speaker 2: too much ventanyl. Yeah, like like when I put supplements

491
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 2: in the kids drinks, Yes, if you put too much,

492
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 2: they say it tastes funny and then they don't drink

493
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 2: it at all. So they got to put the right amount,

494
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 2: so they drink the whole right.

495
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 1: So he only took one bite and he initially had

496
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 1: a reaction. He gave himself the EpiPen shot in the leg.

497
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 1: I guess one of his sons had an EpiPen, so

498
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 1: he did that. He drank Benadoli, took a nach.

499
00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 2: She should have put it in the EpiPen.

500
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,880
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, she should have. She should have contacted you

501
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 1: first and consulted, and then she should have sloppy, sloppy.

502
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 1: So that was the first time that he believes Corey

503
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,880
Speaker 1: is trying to poison him, and he texts his friends

504
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 1: and says something to the effect of like she almost

505
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 1: got me or something like she's I believe she's trying

506
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 1: to poison me. Now the question is why is he

507
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 1: still living with this woman in the same home, using

508
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 1: the same edition.

509
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 2: How did she give him the poison the second time?

510
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 1: The second time is in the Moscow Mule. She makes

511
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 1: a drink for see, why is he letting her handle

512
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 1: his food and drink. I don't know, that's it. I

513
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,959
Speaker 1: don't know. So then we get to this is remember

514
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 1: this is Valentine's Day, February fourteenth of twenty twenty two.

515
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,360
Speaker 1: Then we get to February twenty sixth of twenty twenty two,

516
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 1: so we're just you know, like two weeks later, Corey

517
00:24:55,760 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 1: allegedly contacts Carmen Lauber again and asks for another nine

518
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 1: hundred dollars worth of fentanyl pills.

519
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 2: So which meant she used the entire amount in the

520
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 2: bagel sandwich. Yes, that she needed.

521
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 1: More, which was probably a huge amount. And you're right,

522
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 1: so he took one bite and he had a reaction

523
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 1: immediately to it. So now we get to the actual murder,

524
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,640
Speaker 1: which takes place on March third of twenty twenty two.

525
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,719
Speaker 1: Corey and Eric were home at night celebrating the closing

526
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,679
Speaker 1: of a home purchase for her real estate business. So

527
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,400
Speaker 1: I guess she allegedly or she bought a home.

528
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,679
Speaker 2: I don't know if this is the she bought some

529
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 2: of that mansion. I don't know, Yeah it is.

530
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 1: It might be, But I do know that at one

531
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 1: point she did buy that huge mansion.

532
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 2: Yes, it's like right now it's currently like a seven

533
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 2: million dollar mansion or something.

534
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

535
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 2: Massive. The guest home on the property is three thousand

536
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 2: square feet.

537
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 1: Right, And you know, in regards to that mansion, her

538
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 1: boyfriend testifies in the trial, and they also show text

539
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 1: messages between her and the boyfriend talking about this mansion,

540
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 1: because she tells him that her dream is to have

541
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 1: that mansion turned into an event space where they can

542
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 1: rent it for like fifteen thousand dollars a day, weddings

543
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 1: and you know, corporate events and all those kinds of things,

544
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 1: and that the two of them, she and her boyfriend

545
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 1: live happily together in the guest house, and this is

546
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 1: like their dream, right, So I don't know, I don't

547
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: know if that.

548
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 2: I think I saw. I think I've seen that mansion

549
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 2: because I saw a picture of it and it looked like.

550
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,120
Speaker 2: We drove by it when I went to Utah last time,

551
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 2: because it's pretty recognizable.

552
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 1: It is well and there's nothing else around it. It's

553
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: just like in the middle of.

554
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 2: Right, Because I remember the first time when I saw it,

555
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 2: I was like, well, that's like huge, yeah, and there's

556
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,199
Speaker 2: a lot of big homes there, but that was huge.

557
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 2: And then the second time when we went in December,

558
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 2: I drove by it and I saw it again. Emily

559
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 2: flew to Utah and I drove by the way and

560
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 2: then I'm not scared of flying she is, which is

561
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 2: it was a little backwards. Why should I fly because

562
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 2: you don't want to drive.

563
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 1: I don't want to drive.

564
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,959
Speaker 2: I drove because we had to take equipment and all

565
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 2: the ski gear and stuff. Anyway, the point is I

566
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:02,959
Speaker 2: saw the mansion.

567
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: You saw the mansion when you saw it, though you

568
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 1: didn't know that it was Corey Ritchin's dream home to

569
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 1: live with her boyfriend after she murdered her husband.

570
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 2: I thought it was you that we could run for

571
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 2: fifteen thousand dollars a day. Yeah, I did think that.

572
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 1: For for our twentieth the anniversary, when we renew our vows.

573
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 2: Should we rent it? Yeah, because I thought you'd be

574
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 2: on one side of the house. I'll be in this

575
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 2: house and we'll have a nice, peaceful day.

576
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: Perfect sounds amazing. She gets more drugs. She gets more

577
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 1: fentanyl from carbon than on March third, twenty twenty two,

578
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: they're celebrating because she purchased a new home. I think

579
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: it might be the mansion. She said she prepared him.

580
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: This is what I don't understand. She tells investigators or detectives,

581
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 1: police whoever, that she made him a Moscow mule. I

582
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 1: don't understand why she gave up that information.

583
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:52,679
Speaker 2: Because liars, when they're confronted and they're being interrogated, like

584
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 2: guilty people, I mean not all, but generally guilty people

585
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 2: will tell you, we'll just talk the yap stop to

586
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,959
Speaker 2: try to make it like I'm not hiding anything. So

587
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 2: they try to make it like I'm being upfront. I

588
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 2: made him a drink, I did this, I did that,

589
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,360
Speaker 2: a yap non stop.

590
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: I'm just because I in my mind, I'm wondering why

591
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: she gave up that information because the only other person

592
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: that would have known that she made the moscow mule

593
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: would have been Eric, who is now dead.

594
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,479
Speaker 2: So cause, like I said, she's trying to make it

595
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 2: like I put everything on the table. I'm telling you everything.

596
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 2: I got nothing to hide, and they're nervous, so they're

597
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 2: just yapping.

598
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: Right, So she tells investigators she prepared her husband a

599
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: moscow mule in the kitchen and then brought it into

600
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: their bedroom where he drank it while they were in bed,

601
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 1: along with taking a thc edible.

602
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 2: Is that is that an alcoholic drink? The moscow mule?

603
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's alcohol, according to.

604
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 2: Her, called the moscow mule. I don't I don't sound appealing.

605
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: It has meant and you're supposed to It's very specific.

606
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: You're supposed to like, like, what is that thing you

607
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: like grind the men and I don't know.

608
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 2: And then it has grind the fentanyl with a mint.

609
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: Yes, then you grind the fentanyl, right. According to her account,

610
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: you know, maybe it was a moscow mule because it

611
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: has a very like minty taste. So maybe she was

612
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: trying to do a drink that would like cover up

613
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: you know. Maybe that was specifically because you can't have

614
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: champagne and.

615
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 2: Then they are like apple juice or something and then.

616
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: Dump some fentanyl in it. So yeah, maybe the moscow

617
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: mule was like purposefully because it has it has texture,

618
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: it has meant leaves in it that it.

619
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 2: Could it would stand five times right.

620
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: According to her account, she then went to settle one

621
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: of her children for the night and ended up falling

622
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: asleep in one of their kid's bedrooms shortly afterward. So

623
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 1: she does claim that she wasn't even sleeping in the bed,

624
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: that she went and slept in one of her son's

625
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: rooms because he has night terrors.

626
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 2: So then so the murder sleeps with the sun. Yes,

627
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 2: I'm scared murder. Can you come sleep with me? What

628
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 2: the mom's the murderer? Yes, and the kid is scared

629
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,479
Speaker 2: that night. Yes, she should be the one he's scared of.

630
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 1: Yes, he doesn't know that yet.

631
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 2: You know, that's another thing I was thinking earlier. So

632
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,479
Speaker 2: if he's worried that she's going to kill him, why

633
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 2: wouldn't he think about the kids. It's not far fetched

634
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 2: for someone to murder the kids to get out of

635
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 2: a relationship too, And area is not protecting the kids

636
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 2: as far as we know.

637
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: You're really upset at this guy for not kicking.

638
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 2: Well, I'm not upset, but I'm just thinking about it,

639
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 2: and it's you know, yeah, why is he with her?

640
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I don't know why

641
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: he takes the time and energy to put things in

642
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: a trust account without her knowledge and to do all

643
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: these things behind her back. But he just doesn't divorce

644
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: the woman or leave the house and move out. I

645
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: don't understand that, and take.

646
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 2: Care of the kids.

647
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: So then this is around three twenty two am. This

648
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: is on March fourth, twenty twenty two. Corey claims that

649
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: she went back to her room and found Eric on

650
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: respond at the foot of their bed. Summit County Sheriff's

651
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: deputies and EMS staff arrived at the home at three

652
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,239
Speaker 1: point thirty one am. She does call nine one one,

653
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: and I did listen to the nine one one call.

654
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: She tells the nine one one callers, you know that

655
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: he's unresponsive, and they asked her to do CPR, and

656
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: they ask her if she knows how to do CPR,

657
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: and she says she knows.

658
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 2: That defeats the purpose. She says, I want him dead, no.

659
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: Very weakly. And then the woman says, I'm going to

660
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: tell you how, and I'm gonna count with you. And

661
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: I'm just picturing her on the other end of this

662
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: phone line while this operator is like okay, one, two three,

663
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: She's she's just standing there with the phone.

664
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 2: She's I'm uh huh, yeah, I'm doing it. Meanwhile, she's

665
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 2: probably buying stuff online and looking at her bank account. Right.

666
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: So, I think they even said that there was no

667
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: evidence that she had actually tried to perform any kind

668
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: of CPR, which makes sense. I mean, she she wants

669
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: the man dead. She's not going to this.

670
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 2: She just want to get a third round of fetanol

671
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 2: from this lady. Right, Another nine hundred dollars they found.

672
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: So when AMF staff arrive at the home, this is

673
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: around three thirty one am, they find Eric Richands deceased,

674
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: and according to court documents, the responding paramedic thought that

675
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: he had been dead a while. Eric richands autopsy later

676
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: shows that there were fetanyl levels five times a lethal dose,

677
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: which we have talked about, and that the drug was

678
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: ingested orally, not through any type of accidental exposure, which

679
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: I guess means because they find it in the stomach,

680
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: so that means he ingested it. Right. Also, and this

681
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: was interesting because I was watching this twenty twenty special.

682
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 2: Oh, I was supposed to being like shot up or

683
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 2: something in the right.

684
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 1: It's in the stomach, so obviously he ingested it. So

685
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: you know, then the question is, you know, what did

686
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,719
Speaker 1: he eat? What did he drink? Because he swallowed it. Also,

687
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: I watched she calls the medical examiner when the autopsy

688
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: report comes out, and she's asking very specific.

689
00:32:58,320 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 2: Questions, challenging it.

690
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: Well, she she says, I guess because on the autopsy

691
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 1: report it says something to the effect of illicit feanyl

692
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: or illegal fentanyl or something like that, making a distinction

693
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: between and I learned this. There is and I learned

694
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: this because I was. I was, I researched this. There

695
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: is feanyl that hospitals or doctors use and very very

696
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: very tiny doses that can be used like more. It's

697
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: stronger than more. It's like ridiculously stronger than morphine. So

698
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: they do use it, a medical grade type that they

699
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 1: use in certain a street But this was a street drug,

700
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 1: I guess because it was had synthetic. I don't know.

701
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: I don't know much about I don't really know much

702
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: about street drugs.

703
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 2: Let's keep it that way.

704
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: Yes, but this was clearly something that was not medical grade.

705
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 2: Which shows intent to kill.

706
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: Right, Well, it shows that it's not like he got

707
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: exposed at a hospital or something. It shows that someone

708
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,479
Speaker 1: purchased it. And she said on the phone when she's

709
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: talking to the medical examiner, she said, well, like, well,

710
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: where would that come from? And he said drug cartels.

711
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: So I mean it was very clear that this is,

712
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: you know, was obtained illegally. So a couple of days

713
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: after Eric's death, Corey files acclaim against Eric's trust, contesting

714
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:21,399
Speaker 1: Eric's sister as his personal representative of his trustle days

715
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: after yes, well, actually let me tell you the day

716
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: after Eric died, they had a party at the house.

717
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:29,959
Speaker 2: I was going to joke about her having a party.

718
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 2: She actually had a party.

719
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was her that initiated the party,

720
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: but they did. The purpose of it was like a

721
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: celebration of life type of thing. And this is the

722
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 1: day after he died, and there were a lot of

723
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 1: people at his house, and too soon his sisters, I

724
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: believe his his family was there. This is when the

725
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: families are.

726
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 2: Still even weirder. The family. So the non murders were

727
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:51,879
Speaker 2: okay with at this point.

728
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 1: They don't know how I know, but not questioning her yet.

729
00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 2: Be honest. Yeah, I die, Okay, at your hands. I

730
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 2: just die.

731
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 1: So I didn't have anything to do with that, right, okay.

732
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 2: Because if he has any do with that, I know

733
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 2: the answer to this question.

734
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: Okay.

735
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 2: So I die, Okay, And then the next day or

736
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 2: however whatever this timeframe is, my mom says, let's have

737
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 2: a celebration of life. Let's have a party. Huh, what

738
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 2: would you think?

739
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 1: Well, I wouldn't be able to have a party because

740
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be able to get out of bed because

741
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 1: I would be so devastated. I know you don't believe this,

742
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: so you're looking at me like you're in shock right now.

743
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 1: But that is true. If if you if you were

744
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: no longer you're you're the father of my children or

745
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: my husband. I've been married to you for almost twenty years.

746
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 1: If you died suddenly, I would not be able to

747
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: have a party or get out of bed, so devastated.

748
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 2: So now let's say it's your sister's husband. He unfortunately

749
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 2: passes away, okay, right, gets in a car wreck. So

750
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 2: it's like, clearly, you know, not foul play. And one

751
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 2: day later, your sister says, I'm gonna have a celebration

752
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 2: of life. I'd like to come. We're going to party. Yeah,

753
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 2: what would you think?

754
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: I would think it was weird? Yeah, okay, and Isaiah,

755
00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:58,919
Speaker 1: I would think it was weird.

756
00:35:59,000 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 2: I think most people would.

757
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 1: Well, there was so there were a lot of friends there,

758
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: their friends.

759
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 2: I mean, it's family gathering. Let's get together, have dinner

760
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 2: and just be together.

761
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,720
Speaker 1: No, they were like drinking, you know, talking and telling

762
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: stories about Eric and all these things. Anyway, I believe

763
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: the day after that, the following day, Corey gets in

764
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: a physical altercation. I don't know which sister, but with

765
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: one of Eric's sisters, because oh, because she brings over

766
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: she gets she brings over a key. What's the person

767
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 1: that gets in a in a safe like a like

768
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: a locksmith? A locksmith. Yes, she hires a locksmith to

769
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,479
Speaker 1: come and open his safe because she wants the will

770
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 1: and all these other things that she didn't have access to.

771
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: Corey the wife, So there's a locksmith there. The sister

772
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: shows up. This is I think two days after he died.

773
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 1: I think this is the day after the party, this

774
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: you know party they had. The sister sees the locksmith

775
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: truck and she screams and she loses it. She's like,

776
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, this woman's gonna, like, you know, get

777
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: the will or whatever. Who knows what she's gonna do.

778
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 2: I'm sure they well that's less far fetched than the party.

779
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 1: Yes, But then they get in a physical altercation and

780
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: Corey gets arrested for assault. I guess she punches her

781
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:12,760
Speaker 1: in the head and in the neck or something.

782
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 2: Uh huh.

783
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: So this is when everything just starts to everything becomes

784
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: very divisive at this point. I feel like there was

785
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: I think that's.

786
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 2: What I know now why she did it. But that's

787
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 2: less suspicious. Trying to get into the safe. What she's

788
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 2: supposed to do, Yeah, what she's supposed to do. Well,

789
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 2: I don't try access to all the documents. That's reasonable.

790
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 2: I mean, I know she is a murder I'm not

791
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 2: trying to I know what her intent is. But looking

792
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 2: from the outside, if you don't suspect murder, then her

793
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 2: getting a locksmith to get to the safe is I

794
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:47,919
Speaker 2: think expected. And then but a party is not. That's

795
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 2: all I'm saying.

796
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: I know about the party because her best friend testified

797
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 1: for the prosecution at her trial, and her best friend

798
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: talked about that and talked about being here and things

799
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: like that. So Corey, we talked about this.

800
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 2: So the locksmith get into the safe.

801
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened. I think the sister stopped it,

802
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: and the sister told her. That's when the sister told her, Eric,

803
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 1: cut you out and you're not a beneficiary. And I

804
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: think that's when she first found out about it. So

805
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: then they got in this screaming match and they were

806
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 1: screaming at each other, and then.

807
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 2: That's when locksmith ever saw when he came somewhere, Yeah,

808
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 2: probably he's probably like this is good so did he testify,

809
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 2: But he testified.

810
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if the locksmith's testified. I

811
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: don't know. But then in March of twenty twenty three,

812
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,240
Speaker 1: this is when Corey publishes a children's book. It's called

813
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: Are You With Me? And it's about grieving a deceased parent.

814
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 1: She also she talks about how she could not find

815
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: that her children were struggling. I like, how she's just,

816
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: you know, so concerned about her children that they're struggling

817
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: with the death of their father.

818
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, that's what would happen when you kill the father.

819
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 1: And then so she writes this book and then she

820
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 1: goes around on her little media circuit to uh to

821
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: talk about her book. Then we get to May of

822
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three and Corey Richins is arrested for aggravated

823
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: murder and three counts of possession of drugs with intent

824
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: to distribute. Later additional charges arise insurance fraud and financial claims.

825
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 1: And you know what, she was not initially arrested. She

826
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 1: was arrested for aggravated murder, but then you know, the

827
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 1: attempted murder charge came after you know that, because then

828
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: once they.

829
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 2: Started they started to uncoverable.

830
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 1: Covering more text messages, interview, interviewing friends or family or whatever.

831
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 1: Then came the attempted murder charge of the Valentine's Day sandwich,

832
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: so that actually came after the aggravated murder charge. So,

833
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 1: and then in June of twenty twenty three, Corey is

834
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: denied bail and remains in custody. I know her attorney

835
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: argued that she wasn't a flight risk and that she

836
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,240
Speaker 1: had three children, so she should be let out on bail,

837
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,800
Speaker 1: but they were not having it. So she remained in

838
00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 1: jail the entire time.

839
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 2: She the first time she was the time she takes arrested.

840
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,720
Speaker 2: When was she again? Was it how soon after the murder?

841
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: Well, she murdered him in March of twenty.

842
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 2: She was taken in in March as well.

843
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 1: She murdered him in March of twenty twenty two. She

844
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 1: was arrested in May of twenty two, very soon after.

845
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 2: Well a year, oh, no, a year, a year and

846
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 2: a few months. So she's been in She's been in

847
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:27,280
Speaker 2: jail for at least three for coming on three years now, right.

848
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: So she's denied bail. She's in jail. This is June

849
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,240
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty three. Then there were some pre trial

850
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 1: developments that happened before she goes to trial. We talked

851
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: about this in the first episode. Do you remember the

852
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: Walk the Dog Letter?

853
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:40,280
Speaker 2: The Walk the Dog.

854
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: It's called the walk the Dog Letter because it's like

855
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 1: a four page handwritten letter that she wrote while she

856
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: was in jail. And remember she's very specific. At the

857
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: very top of it, it says in bold you know

858
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: letters with exclamation points. It says walk the dogs. She's

859
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: in the letter too well. She later says that it's

860
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: just a manuscript and it's fiction. Give well, it's I

861
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: think it's going to her mother because it talks about

862
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: how her brother when he testifies, because she says, you know,

863
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 1: he'll most likely have to testify that he needs to

864
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: testify to the fact that Eric travels to Mexico and

865
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: gets drugs in Mexico. So she's trying to establish a story.

866
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: She's trying to create a story. So then they do

867
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: you know those random searches, they're searching her room. That's

868
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 1: how they find the letter. Sell not her room. No,

869
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 1: it's not her sweet, not her sweet, her cell. They

870
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: find the Walk the Dog letter. Then she claims because obviously,

871
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: you know, it gets it gets confiscated, it goes to

872
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: the prosecution. Prosecution has it right. She claims that it's fiction,

873
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: that it's just part. You know, she's an.

874
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 2: Author, it's another book.

875
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: It's another book. You know, she's this well known author

876
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: who writes books. So this is just a work of fiction.

877
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: And this is like published, it's going to be a

878
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: work of fiction. Also, I know there's some issues with

879
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: a lot of things that this happens. When she talks

880
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: to her attorney, she also claims it's like attorney client privilege,

881
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: things like that attorney client work product. And this is

882
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: when she has her first attorney, whose name is Skya Lazaro,

883
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 1: who ends up not being her attorney when she goes

884
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:27,720
Speaker 1: on trial. So anyway, then she's charged with attempted murder

885
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: for the Valentine's Day poisoning. Like I said, that came

886
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 1: later after her initial charge. Then there are multiple hearings,

887
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: attorney changes and delays, and then the judge rules that

888
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,439
Speaker 1: she must stand trial. There is some conflict I don't

889
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: know what it is, but she ends up not having

890
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 1: the attorney she had the whole time, Skya Lazaro. She

891
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: ends up claiming like there was a conflict or something

892
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 1: that had to do with the other additional charges that

893
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: she gets that has to do with the fraud and

894
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: the insurance and all of that stuff. I don't know

895
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 1: if there was some conflict with that, but anyway, her

896
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: attorney ends up withdrawing, and then now she has two

897
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,760
Speaker 1: public defenders who are going to represent her for her trial.

898
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 1: So then February twenty third of twenty twenty six, so

899
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: this was very recently. So now we get to the

900
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 1: actual trial. The trial begins. The prosecution. These are the

901
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: main arguments. And here's the thing about the arguments they're

902
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: going to try. I feel like they really work on

903
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: a motive because there is no you have to there

904
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: is no smoking.

905
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:31,839
Speaker 2: Gun in this, right, it's all circumstantial.

906
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: It's all circumstantial. There's no witness of her.

907
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 2: Like you said, there's no video of her putting fentanyl

908
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 2: on the bagel and handing it.

909
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: To them, right d're into the Moscow mule. There's no

910
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: witness that sawid. There's no one that can testify that

911
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 1: she told them that she did it. So the jury

912
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: has to take all these pieces of when she bought it.

913
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: They have to believe Carmen Lauber, and Carmen Lauber has

914
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: a very shady pass. She's been arrested multiple times. She

915
00:43:56,040 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: also got an immunity deal for her testimony against Corey Richet,

916
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 1: So that's another thing to take into account. Do you

917
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 1: believe her, do you find her credible? You know, that's

918
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: for the jury to decide. So anyway, the prosecution goes

919
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 1: into their opening argument, they're also going to establish the motives.

920
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: And I believe there's two motives that they really try

921
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 1: to hone in on in this case, and it's won

922
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: the financial gain. She wants her husband dead because she's

923
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: going to financially gain, right, she has all this insurance

924
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 1: money she's going to collect from his debt and it's

925
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: all going to go to her. And then she also

926
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: thought when she killed him that she was the beneficiary.

927
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: She didn't know that he had made that trust and

928
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: named his sister.

929
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 2: As the executives were aware that the prenup said if

930
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 2: he predeceases her right while married, she gets married. See,

931
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 2: maybe you shouldn't do that in the thing. Maybe should make.

932
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: It like it doesn't matter dead or alive, right, right,

933
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: So anyway, not only do They talk about a motive

934
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: of the financial gain, but they also really hone in

935
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: on the fact that she wanted her husband dead because

936
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 1: she was having an affair with this guy named Josh Grossman,

937
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: and that they want she wanted a fresh start if

938
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: she was I don't think they're together anymore. I feel

939
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: like that fizzled out.

940
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 2: He's not supporting her.

941
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 1: No, he testifies against her, So we'll talk about that.

942
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: So those are the two motives, really, the financial gain

943
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 1: and really how how unhappy she was in her marriage

944
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 1: that she wanted her husband gone so that she could

945
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: have this fresh start with this new guy, Josh Grossman.

946
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: Then we get to testimony. We're gonna talk about some

947
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: of the testimony in this Josh Grossman testifies against her.

948
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 1: He testifies for the prosecution. He's the boyfriend. So tech

949
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: this is so I can't imagine how embarrassing this would be.

950
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: But they they show screenshots of all the text messages

951
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: between her and the boyfriend. And her boyfriend, Yeah, I mean,

952
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,879
Speaker 1: it just sounds so middle school.

953
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 2: So much.

954
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 1: I can't wait to some do you think about me?

955
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: I think about you. I love you. I had a

956
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: dream we're going to you know, Rent out.

957
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 2: That when I get you a bagel.

958
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to rent out the mansion as an

959
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: event space and then we're gonna live in the you know,

960
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: the guest house together and have little farm animals. And

961
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 1: it's just and he's sitting there on the stand and

962
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 1: they show it up on the screen right so that

963
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: the jury can read it.

964
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 2: Suckt over.

965
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: Oh, it's just like I can't imagine. It reminds me

966
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 1: of Karen Reid. Do you remember during the trial when

967
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 1: they read all those text messages it was between her

968
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: and that ATF agent when they were flirting with each other.

969
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: And he's on the stand and they like show the

970
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: text messages and make him read them. And it's like

971
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: how mortifying our.

972
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 2: Text messages would show motivation. They would show motive, motive,

973
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 2: what they like? Those tracks? All the name she calls him.

974
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 1: I don't call you that many names?

975
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 2: Not that many?

976
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 1: All right, Okay, so there are text messages that show

977
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:01,879
Speaker 1: core he was having an affair with another man named

978
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: Robert Josh Grossman. First of all, I have to say

979
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 1: I watched his testimony. This man, I well, she likes redheads.

980
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: He's a redhead. Her ex husband was a redhead. He's

981
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 1: struggling so much on the stand.

982
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 2: Like what like like it hurts him to say all this.

983
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,240
Speaker 2: He just or like he feels dumb or I.

984
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 1: Think I guess all the emotions. I mean, they have

985
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 1: to ask him a little. Yeah, he puts his head

986
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 1: down a lot. He has trouble speaking. They have to

987
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 1: ask him if he needs a break. I don't. I mean,

988
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's struggling morally that he was

989
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,240
Speaker 1: involved with this woman that was married and now maybe

990
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: he had some not that he was involved.

991
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 2: He knew she was married, right.

992
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: He knew she was married. Yeah, And there were there's

993
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: text messages between the two of them that are like

994
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: once you get divorced, when you get divorced? Oh no,

995
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: And then there was other text messages where she kept

996
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: telling him to hold off onto until.

997
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 2: Friday, hold off what till.

998
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 1: I think he was getting like upset about her not

999
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: being divorced, and he was like questioning their relationship and

1000
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: she's like, just hold on, just hold on till Friday.

1001
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: I got plans. Don't worry about it. I'm gonna you know,

1002
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna figure this out. So less than a month

1003
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: before her husband's death. Corey Richins had asked her boyfriend, quote,

1004
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: if I was divorced right now and ask you to

1005
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 1: marry me tomorrow, you would question Mark Robert responded, yes,

1006
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 1: in love with y oh you of course I would. No.

1007
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 1: This is what they're showing, like up on the screen

1008
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:30,280
Speaker 1: during the trial.

1009
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,479
Speaker 2: I just all it does is show that she's checked

1010
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 2: out of the marriage and wants to be with this guy.

1011
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: Right. So the prosecution is showing exactly that she's unhappy

1012
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: in her marriage and that she wants this fresh start

1013
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: right with this guy, Josh Grossman, this.

1014
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 2: Guy ever have another relationship now, because if he has

1015
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 2: a relationship with someone, he sends her messages.

1016
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 1: Well, he'll probably never put anything in writing.

1017
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 2: I got yeah, but then that new female might be like,

1018
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 2: that's what you told Cory.

1019
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I still.

1020
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:56,280
Speaker 2: Don't mean anything.

1021
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 1: Josh Grossman testified a trial he and Corey finally talked

1022
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:05,359
Speaker 1: about Eric's death two weeks after it occurred. I think

1023
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 1: this is what they considered to be kind of like

1024
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: a bombshell testimony from him. He testified that she asked

1025
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: him if he had ever killed anyone. Well, let me

1026
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 1: get you a context. He was in the military and I

1027
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: believe he was on Grossman. Yes, the boyfriend. I believe

1028
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: he was on maybe any Iraq or something. So he

1029
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: was on some what he was in combat zones where

1030
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 1: that could have happened. So she asked him if he

1031
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: had ever killed anybody, and then she asked him how

1032
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: it made him feel, or something along those lines, and

1033
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 1: then I answered her. So there was a conversation that

1034
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 1: had to do with have you ever killed anyone? Right,

1035
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: So he testified to that he's an army veteran. That's

1036
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,399
Speaker 1: why she was asking him the question. And the two

1037
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 1: continued to date a few months after the death, but

1038
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: things eventually fizzled out, you know, I mean why not?

1039
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't they fizzle out? I feel like, once you

1040
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 1: kill your husband and then you know they're onto you,

1041
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: things might fizzle out. With the boyfriend. There's also damaging

1042
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 1: digital evidence.

1043
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 2: Deal breaker.

1044
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 1: That is a deal breaker. There's damaging digital evidence. Corey's

1045
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 1: Internet searches.

1046
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,320
Speaker 2: Included oh yeah, this is these are my favorites. What

1047
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 2: are I love it when they look at the Google

1048
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 2: searches these killers, You're just so stupid.

1049
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 1: What is a lethal dose of fentanyl? Can FBI find

1050
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: deleted messages. If someone is poisoned, what does it go

1051
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 1: down on the death certificate?

1052
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,760
Speaker 2: As can FBI find my Google searches?

1053
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 1: Luxury prisons for the rich in America. I don't understand

1054
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: that one.

1055
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 2: How to make a bagel sandwich.

1056
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 1: Corey richins net worth, so she was very concerned about that. However,

1057
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: these Google searches, I will tell you they're they're the

1058
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 1: defense or her defense atturn Sky Lazzaro talks about this,

1059
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 1: but she wasn't her attorney during the trial. But she

1060
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: gives her interpretation of this. These Google searches. You have

1061
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:12,359
Speaker 1: to understand the Google searches were done after he had

1062
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 1: already died, It was not before. So her excuse for

1063
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 1: Corey is Okay, she gets a death certificate and she's

1064
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:21,760
Speaker 1: told that he dies of a lethal amount.

1065
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 2: Okay, but were the other ones? Okay, Now that we

1066
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 2: know that this was searched after he was dead, what

1067
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:32,399
Speaker 2: are the searches again? Read him quickly?

1068
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: Okay, So now you know the timeline says after he died,

1069
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 1: what is a lethal dose of fetanl Okay, So we'll

1070
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: write that one off, right, because let's say it makes sense.

1071
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: Let's give her credit.

1072
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 2: I mean she's still murdered.

1073
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 1: She's still a murder but she gets a death certificate.

1074
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: The medical examiner says he died of a lethal dose

1075
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: of fetanyl. Okay, she googles that, can FBI find deleted messages?

1076
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:56,479
Speaker 2: Okay, well, there's no reason to look at that. One

1077
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 2: searched that.

1078
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: If someone is poisoned, what does it go down on

1079
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: the death certificate as.

1080
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 2: Because she wanted to know for insurance purposes? Okay, well,

1081
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 2: even that you could be like, well, okay, whatever.

1082
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: Luxury prisons for the rich in America. I like how

1083
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 1: she claims that, Like she's like, she would go to

1084
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:17,359
Speaker 1: a luxury prison because she's rich.

1085
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 2: There a luxury She's in so much a luxury prison?

1086
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 1: Are there? That's an oxymoron? Like happily American luxury prison?

1087
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:29,359
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, No, you know what you're people are

1088
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 1: gonna think that I just abuse you. I don't abuse you.

1089
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:38,240
Speaker 1: Help my gosh, is this house a luxury prison?

1090
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 2: I don't know, but this podcast could now be used

1091
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:40,760
Speaker 2: as motive.

1092
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 1: Great, thank you Corey Richand's net worth. That's just you know,

1093
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: she just wants to feel like she's worth something. You know,

1094
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:52,399
Speaker 1: she's actually in so much debt. She has no net worth.

1095
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: She's in debt like millions and millions of dollars and

1096
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: her business is failing. That's like, that's the prosecution's whole

1097
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: motive is that she killed her husband for financial gain

1098
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 1: because she's in so much debt and her business is failing.

1099
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 2: Let's see, I'm looking up Corey Richins networth. Nothing's coming up.

1100
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 2: Yeah she's not.

1101
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:17,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's not worth anything.

1102
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 2: It's not on anyone's radar to figure this stuff. No,

1103
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 2: she's in a lot of she's in a lot of times.

1104
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 2: That stuff's kind of just random numbers, you know.

1105
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: Also, Carmen Laber, we talked about this a little bit before,

1106
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: but Carmen Lauber is the drug dealer that she bought

1107
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: allegedly abought the you know, fentanyl from. But again, this

1108
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 1: is where there is no other suspect in this case.

1109
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: So the defense it's not like the defense is able

1110
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 1: to use the defense where they're pointing to someone else.

1111
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 2: The other one, the other suspect is himself, right, he

1112
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 2: supposedly went to Mexico got his own drugs. Well, no,

1113
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 2: I know, but that's the only explanation alternate explanation that

1114
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 2: is being offered.

1115
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: Right, So the defense what they're going to do is

1116
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 1: they want to is they're going to try to put

1117
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 1: reasonable down into the jury's mind. That's the only way

1118
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 1: you're going to get Corey Richins off, right, you have.

1119
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 2: To the way you get everyone else.

1120
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 1: That's that you're going to have to establish some kind

1121
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: of reasonable doubt. The jury's going to have to sit

1122
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 1: there and go, you know, I don't know how did

1123
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 1: the fentanyl get from here to here? Was it her?

1124
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 1: That's the missing piece, right, No one thought that.

1125
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 2: There's no way.

1126
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 1: Of course she did, I know, but I just deliberate now, right,

1127
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 1: But let me tell you though, there was no fentanyl

1128
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 1: found in the home, and there was no fish ga no.

1129
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,800
Speaker 1: But let me finish, there was no fentanyl residue found

1130
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 1: in the glass at the bottom of the cup. You know,

1131
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 1: I don't know how easy it is to wash away.

1132
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. But there was no fentanyl

1133
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 1: residue found and no fentanyl found in the home. So

1134
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: let's just there you go, there's a little bit of

1135
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: reasonable doubt. I would hone in on that if I

1136
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 1: was the defense.

1137
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 2: Attorney, right, No, I know that doesn't create any doubt

1138
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 2: for me. So what so she cleaned up, she washed

1139
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:51,240
Speaker 2: the dishes.

1140
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 1: I'm saying, if you're representing her and you're her defense attorney,

1141
00:54:56,239 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: the only thing you can't do is try to focus

1142
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:04,399
Speaker 1: on him getting fentanyls somewhere else and and they're not

1143
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 1: being any fentanyl residue in the glass, in the house,

1144
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 1: in the house, anywhere. That's what you have to do.

1145
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 1: That's all on this. This to me.

1146
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 2: Says that the alternate theory that he has his own

1147
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 2: drugs doesn't exist because there's nothing in the house. This

1148
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 2: doesn't create any doubt that she did it. This creates

1149
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 2: doubt that he gets his own drugs.

1150
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:29,399
Speaker 1: Well, what she should have done was, you know, because

1151
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 1: I feel like when people are drug addicts, like when

1152
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 1: I watch it on TV, or someone does drugs, they

1153
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,799
Speaker 1: always have like this little like a drug box, like.

1154
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 2: A little toiletry bag, like a little.

1155
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: Toiletry bag, don't they And they just like pull their

1156
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 1: drugs out. So I'm saying, if she she should have

1157
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,479
Speaker 1: been smarter, if she wanted people to think that he

1158
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 1: took the.

1159
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 2: Things she could have done to be smarter about this.

1160
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 1: She needed to have like his like drug kit.

1161
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 2: Somewhere she needed to create like a story, he said,

1162
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 2: just giving him drugs and later trying to figure out

1163
00:55:58,160 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 2: how to cover up.

1164
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:01,760
Speaker 1: Well, the other thing to create reasonable doll is you

1165
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 1: you want to you want to establish that Carmen Lauber,

1166
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 1: who really is the star witness for the prosecution, has

1167
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 1: no credibility and you don't believe her. So she got

1168
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 1: an immunity deal, like we talked about, in order to

1169
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 1: testify for the prosecution. So she wasn't she wasn't going

1170
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:19,760
Speaker 1: to do any gail time for all of this drug

1171
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 1: related activity that she has going on, selling and distributing

1172
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 1: and buying and all those things. So the question is

1173
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,280
Speaker 1: do you find her to be credible? Do you believe

1174
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 1: what she says? Do you believe that Corey came to her?

1175
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 1: Do you believe that she bought you.

1176
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 2: Credible? And that's enough for me, Okay, So you're.

1177
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 1: Just there, you are, all right? So then when I'm

1178
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 1: watching the trial, so the prosecution puts on their case, right,

1179
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,879
Speaker 1: they call all these witnesses. I don't remember how many,

1180
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 1: but I think originally they had already listed or something, right,

1181
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 1: and his family testifies and Carmen Lauber testifies, and Corey

1182
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 1: Richard's best friend testifies, and the boyfriend testifies. All these

1183
00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 1: the ex boyfriend whatever, they all testify right for the profecution.

1184
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,439
Speaker 1: Then it's like the prosecution's case in chief is done.

1185
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 1: They're done presenting their case, and the judge says, Okay,

1186
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 1: to the defense attorneys, you're on. You're on. It's now

1187
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 1: time for you to present your defense. You know what

1188
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: witnesses are you going to call? And there's two defense attorneys.

1189
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 1: They're both public defenders, and they've been public defenders for years.

1190
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 1: I think together they have like thirty six years of

1191
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 1: experience or something. So you're not talking about like newbies.

1192
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 1: They were talking about very established public defenders. It's two

1193
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 1: women and you watch them and they're they're whispering to

1194
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 1: each other and they're talking, and I'm assuming that they're trying.

1195
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 1: They're figuring out like who should we call first, or

1196
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 1: they have some kind of strategy, and the you know,

1197
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 1: the judges like do you need more time or whatever,

1198
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 1: and they're like, no, the defense for us, we're not

1199
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 1: going to call any witnesses. That's it.

1200
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 2: She's guilty or honor. So I was like what they

1201
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:54,919
Speaker 2: were going back and forth with each other.

1202
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 1: I don't well, they were whispering. I don't know what

1203
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 1: they were saying. But my assumption was, when I'm watching them,

1204
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 1: I'm assuming you.

1205
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:03,439
Speaker 2: Brought the file. No, you brought the file. I didn't

1206
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 2: bring the file. You brought the file.

1207
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 1: No. Yeah, I'm assuming that they were they were contemplating

1208
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 1: who they were going to call first, or talking strategy.

1209
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 1: But then they said, no, the defense rest we have

1210
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 1: no witnesses to call. They called no one. So there's like, yeah,

1211
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 1: but that's not zealously, you know, for your clients.

1212
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 2: I know that's not I was just saying, maybe they're

1213
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 2: just like, you know, she's a killer, so whatever this is.

1214
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 1: There's the part I don't understand. So the defense rested

1215
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 1: without calling a single witness. Also, Corey Richins does not testify,

1216
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 1: which is probably a good thing, right, I mean, I

1217
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 1: can't imagine never.

1218
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 2: A good thing for them to testify, right I I

1219
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 2: it would be more fun to watch.

1220
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 1: I mean, it would be fun to watch, but I

1221
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 1: can't imagine you talk about that cross examination like she's

1222
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 1: just going to get annihilated. So she chooses not to testify,

1223
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 1: and then they call no further witnesses. However, they had

1224
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 1: several witnesses ready to testify, but they changed their mind

1225
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 1: at the at the you know, they watched the trial.

1226
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 2: They're like, forget this.

1227
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 1: So I still feel like, and I it's I've never

1228
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 1: been a defense attorney, but in my mind, I'm thinking,

1229
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 1: whatdn't they call someone that would help establish that there

1230
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 1: wasn't fentanyl in the house and there wasn't any fentanyl, Like,

1231
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 1: I feel.

1232
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 2: Like they wanted something, they would have date something, but they.

1233
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 1: Should have kind of done something where they're questioning that

1234
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 1: and leaving that doubt in the jury's mind. But they didn't.

1235
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 1: They called no one. They rested there was no defense.

1236
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 1: So the verdict came out. This is just recently that

1237
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 1: we heard the verdict. It came out on March sixteenth

1238
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty six. The jury and by the way,

1239
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 1: let's talk about the jury. It was only eight members.

1240
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 1: Normally a jury has twelve.

1241
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 2: No, in Utah it's eight.

1242
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 1: Well, in Utah, it's twelve if it's capital murder where

1243
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 1: they're seeking the death penalty, but the prosecution decided not

1244
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 1: to seek the dead.

1245
00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 2: I read that because there's there was only circumstance evidence right,

1246
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 2: So it's going to be it was going to be

1247
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 2: a long, uphill battle to try to get that capital punish,

1248
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 2: get the capital punished. So it was really the low

1249
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 2: hanging fruit was life in prison.

1250
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 1: Right. So that's why her jury only has eight as

1251
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 1: opposed to twelve. So the jury delivered alternates and four alternates.

1252
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 1: So the jury deliberated for only three hours after hearing

1253
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 1: closing arguments. I think that was shocking to everyone because.

1254
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 2: Most of that was lunchtime too. Seriously, they probably like, dude,

1255
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 2: she did right, Yeah, she did right. Okay, cool, let's

1256
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 2: get some lunch.

1257
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 1: They returned their verdict, finding Corey Richard's guilty on all counts,

1258
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 1: including aggravated murder, attempted aggravated murder, two counts of insurance

1259
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 1: fraud and forgery. She could be sentenced to life in

1260
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 1: prison without parole, and her sentencing is scheduled for May thirteenth,

1261
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 1: which the irony of that is that that's also Eric

1262
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 1: Richan's birthday, so she's going to be sentenced on his birthday.

1263
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 1: Happy birthday, Richens in Heaven, and it'll be interesting to see.

1264
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 1: Do you think she'll get life without pearl or do

1265
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 1: you think she'll.

1266
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 2: Watch the verdict, and she she was not a happy lady.

1267
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 1: Well her head she yeah or had hung low when

1268
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 1: they read that.

1269
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 2: And she was a little yeah, she was she knew

1270
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 2: she was screwed. So there's a twenty I love how

1271
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 2: they did all the charges and the last one was forgery.

1272
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 2: And don't think we forgot about the forgery, right.

1273
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 1: We know you did that. That's on there if you watch.

1274
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 1: There's a twenty twenty special on the trial, and it

1275
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 1: was really interesting. But they show when she was in

1276
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 1: when she came in for her pre trial to figure

1277
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 1: for her bail. I believe it was to see if

1278
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 1: she was going to get bail or not, like she

1279
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 1: would be allowed. Sure. They show her in the courtroom

1280
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 1: and she was very cocky. She was like smiling. Verdict day, right,

1281
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 1: and they show her they show a flashback to that

1282
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 1: or whatever, and she looked very confident.

1283
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 2: Because time at that time she had private attorney. So

1284
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 2: they told her, oh, yeah, we'll get you. Well, we

1285
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 2: got it, we got it, and give us the retainer.

1286
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 2: We'll take care of you.

1287
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 1: She's like, I got this. I'm gonna I'm gonna walk,

1288
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna write a letter to my mom Children's book

1289
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 1: How to Testify What's say in Trial? So, yeah, they

1290
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 1: didn't call the brother the brother that she told in

1291
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 1: the Walk the Dog letter, How to testify about how

1292
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 1: Eric goes to Mexico. You know, they also interview her

1293
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 1: family and her brothers and her mom and even her brothers.

1294
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 1: Like they annoyed me when I watched them because they

1295
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 1: were so adamant that she really was writing a manuscript,

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Speaker 1: like she was writing a fiction book. And I was

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Speaker 1: just like, how, I mean, I understand you want to

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Speaker 1: stand by your sister, and I understand you could say

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Speaker 1: I don't think she did it. She would never do that,

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Speaker 1: She wouldn't do that to the children, Like.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, man, if the facts are there, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I can understand that to a certain extent,

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Speaker 1: but the fact that her brothers were just like, no, yeah,

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Speaker 1: she that wasn't a letter to me. That wasn't about

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Speaker 1: me that she was writing. Never she was writing a

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Speaker 1: fiction book. I was like, now you just sound ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: Now are you in on it?

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Speaker 1: So anyway, again, her sentencing is schedule for May thirteen,

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Speaker 1: so we will obviously follow that and discuss that. It'll

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Speaker 1: be interesting to see what sentence she gets. Also, during

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Speaker 1: the sentencing, it'll be very interesting to watch and follow

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Speaker 1: along because not only is she sentenced, but there's victim

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Speaker 1: impact statements, so you know that his side of the family.

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Speaker 2: Oh, they're going to let her.

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Speaker 1: They're going to let her have it. She also has

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Speaker 1: the opportunity to speak on her own behalf. I would

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Speaker 1: assume that.

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Speaker 2: She won't do any good.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't think she will.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it ever do any good.

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Speaker 1: It never doesn't.

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Speaker 2: Of course they're going to say I'm sorry. It's like, no,

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Speaker 2: she thinks she's not going to say anything.

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Speaker 1: She's going to maintain her innocence and say she had

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Speaker 1: nothing knowing.

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Speaker 2: I know, but sometimes they okay, yeah right, So to

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Speaker 2: further my point, no matter what they say, I mean,

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Speaker 2: does it really matter.

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Speaker 1: No, But the question is do you think she'll say anything.

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Speaker 1: I don't think she'll say anything.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, it'll be interesting to see what the victim now. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so we'll follow that. We'll obviously do another episode once

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Speaker 1: that comes out, because I really want to talk about

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Speaker 1: the victim impact statements, what they say, what the sentence is,

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Speaker 1: and whether she decides to speak on her own behalf

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Speaker 1: or not, so we will follow that anyway. Thank you

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Speaker 1: guys for listening to the Corey Richand's trial. Again, if

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Speaker 1: you have any comments, or you have any further I

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Speaker 1: love it when people send me information that they have

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Speaker 1: because they like, live in the area, or they know

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Speaker 1: somebody that knows somebody, Please dm me on Instagram. I

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Speaker 1: if you listen to us on two t's, that's great,

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Speaker 1: we love that. But also we have more episodes on

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Speaker 1: you listen to us on our own feed as well

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Speaker 2: So most importantly, yes, if you have any thoughts of

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Speaker 2: murdering your spouse again, get a divorce lawyer, right, please

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Speaker 2: file a petition.

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Speaker 1: Again, let us remind you that on this episode of

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Speaker 1: Till Death Do Us Part that we would like to

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Speaker 1: encourage everyone to please seek divorce instead of murder. All right,

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Speaker 1: thank you for listening,