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Speaker 1: Pats from the Past.

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Speaker 2: Tune in is Matt Smith and Paul Perillo offer in

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Speaker 2: depth interviews with some of the greatest players and coaches

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Speaker 2: in New England Patriots history.

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Speaker 3: Joined by the newth member of the Patriots Hall Fame,

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Speaker 3: Mike Raybold.

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Speaker 2: Find out what led to some of the greatest moments

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Speaker 2: in franchise history and unique behind the scenes insight.

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Speaker 1: And please to be joined by former Patriot quarterback Brian

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Speaker 3: Joined by number thirty seven on your scorecard, but number

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Speaker 3: one in our hearts at least Rodney Harrison.

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Speaker 1: Good to be home, Good to see you guys.

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Speaker 2: Search for Pats in the Past anywhere you get your podcast.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I loved you throughout.

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Speaker 5: I love playing with him, playing for him, Suah, I know,

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Speaker 5: you know, I don't have no none of us have

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Speaker 5: no say on that. So I mean, and maybe a

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Speaker 5: decision and we got it, just you know, cherish the

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Speaker 5: moments we had with him, and.

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Speaker 4: You know, hope the best for him and never move on.

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Speaker 4: An organization, What did you find out?

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Speaker 1: How did that come down?

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Speaker 6: What did I find out? Yeah, yeah, yesterday, No, but

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Speaker 6: how does that everybody else.

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Speaker 1: Do they have a team meeting or.

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Speaker 5: We'll kind of it come up out now I had

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Speaker 5: I had just seen him on on social media.

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Speaker 7: Just your thoughts on on the job that your heart

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Speaker 7: did here for one year and and where do you guys.

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Speaker 6: Stand right now? Yeah, I mean, I.

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Speaker 4: Mean it's it's it's hard to be.

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Speaker 5: You know, win games in this league in the first place.

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Speaker 4: Uh yeah. And then I mean it's.

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Speaker 5: It's I think he did a good job. I mean,

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Speaker 5: everybody in this in this locker room was righting for him.

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Speaker 4: Locker room.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a tough business. So a chance to talk

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Speaker 3: Christian, what do you what are your feelings going for?

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Speaker 3: And now it's the young the season and it's the

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Speaker 3: Well what when you digest all this, what are your

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Speaker 6: How are you feeling?

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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm I'm you know, excited to you know,

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Speaker 5: you know, take a take some time away from ball.

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Speaker 5: And I mean just once we get the news. We

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Speaker 6: And whoever it is.

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Speaker 3: It is it is, do you feel more equivalent to

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Speaker 3: So I guess you will be excited eventually about what's

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Speaker 6: Forward, right Well, yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know you're always excited just the chance

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Speaker 7: We've talked about having Drake and what that needs to

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Speaker 6: Going next year with the new head coach. What needs to.

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Speaker 7: then the playoff success?

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Speaker 4: Just just winning games.

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Speaker 5: I mean it comes down to winning games, you know, practicing,

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Speaker 5: continuing to build this bond and lockering room, and you.

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Speaker 6: Know, go out there and execute it.

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Speaker 5: I mean, looking back on this game or n this year,

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Speaker 4: We got we got the pieces we need.

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Speaker 4: We just gotta you know, execute better and can get ready.

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Speaker 3: Christian, the line is that it's it's a results driven

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Speaker 3: that's mostly heard that all the time, but just human

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Speaker 3: Is it really fair that that somebody got fired.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know that's that's I can't really answer that.

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Speaker 3: What do what do you qualities? Your hope your new

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Speaker 8: What type of coach?

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Speaker 3: Do you respond to yourself personally?

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Speaker 6: Really anybody?

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Speaker 4: I mean I pride myself on being coachable, So whatever

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Speaker 5: Gonna come in and be the same person I am.

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Speaker 5: So it doesn't really matter what type of coach it.

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Speaker 4: Is, you know, just do what I gotta do.

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Speaker 6: Thanks you, christ.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's you know, it's a hard day. It's part

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Speaker 9: And obviously you know it's no matter what, it's always

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Speaker 9: hard to end a year. You know, it's not going

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Speaker 9: You know, Look, it is what it is. I appreciate

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Speaker 9: Look it starts, you know today for guys guys that

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Speaker 9: I've been there. You know, I don't I lost twenty

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you've seen absolutely the highest of highest Yeah, last.

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Speaker 9: And and look, it's it's the greatest culmination of doing

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Speaker 1: At, Yeah, taking it day by day.

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Speaker 9: Look, I know it's you know, I did everything I

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Speaker 6: Imagine there.

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Speaker 10: Everybody's a upset at his departure, we all respected Yeah

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Speaker 4: Is there a sadness that there or that happen to.

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Speaker 8: So it was the last time he addressed you guys

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Speaker 10: I as I told the guys before and the ladies

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Speaker 6: I would have wanted to see him leave.

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Speaker 10: He meant everything. He was a great leader, a great coach,

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Speaker 10: Business wise about what the NFL is, there's no bigger call.

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Speaker 1: Have does anyone talk to the players about decision to

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Speaker 6: Ownership or from from Oh you asking me? Did they

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Speaker 6: talk to us before it happened? But after it happened?

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Speaker 4: After as in today.

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Speaker 6: Oh, so ask it one more time to now I

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Speaker 9: Has Have the players have been addressed buy the front

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Speaker 4: What was the overall message from me?

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Speaker 6: Uh? Uh pretty much for moving on in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 10: Uh? Everything that that drive Mayo was a great leader,

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Speaker 6: So that's why I that let's all you're hugging about

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Speaker 1: What uh?

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Speaker 6: What did you say?

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Speaker 1: What did you say to you?

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Speaker 6: It was just uh uh an an embrace of coaching player. Okay,

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Speaker 2: What do you what do you think led to.

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Speaker 6: Led to four and thirteen record. Uh he didn't win

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Speaker 1: Well why do you think that happened?

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Speaker 10: I mean a lot of things transpired. It was a

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Speaker 8: So, I mean Gerd was a great person, uh, great leader,

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Speaker 8: So of course you know you gonna feel for guy

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Speaker 8: something like this happened. But you know, I mean I'm

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Speaker 6: You know. Uh it's tough.

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Speaker 8: You mentioned it a bit, But the impact that Gerand

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Speaker 6: So it's it.

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Speaker 8: It runs deeper than just going out there and putting

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Speaker 8: But you know, Uh, like I said, this is this

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Speaker 8: That's not a question for me to answer. Uh, that's

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Speaker 8: a question for you know, the people who make those decisions.

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Speaker 5: This is the one you said the team met with

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Speaker 5: the front office this morning.

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Speaker 1: What what was the message in that meaning? Uh?

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Speaker 8: Patrick, a message in the meeting this morning?

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Uh I I was handling some stuff, uh with my family.

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Speaker 8: Uh didn't get a chance to make that meeting now,

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Speaker 7: What t it kind of you look like you're kind

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Speaker 7: year been like? Well, how difficult has it been? And

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Speaker 7: and maybe w what do you need to see from

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Speaker 7: everybody in twenty twenty five?

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Speaker 6: Good bye?

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Speaker 8: Uh, just everybody's just uh just everybody. I feel like

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Speaker 8: if we can do that and uh, you know, things

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Speaker 8: to stop moving forward until then, that won't change.

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Speaker 7: You've been pretty optimistic that if if you things start going,

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Speaker 7: do you feel like things can start going in the

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Speaker 7: right direction in a hurry with this group, if if

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Speaker 7: everything's under control from day one start to finish with

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Speaker 7: a new leader all the way down through you guys.

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Speaker 8: Everybody just play it a part and do the right thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: but everybody gotta do that, you know, sometimes that's not

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Speaker 8: always the answer.

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Speaker 2: are concerned, Let's just get one thing done, and let's

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Speaker 2: get it done right, and then we can worry about versatility.

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Speaker 2: Am I hying to anybody here. Let's just get one

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Speaker 2: thing done. Let's get one thing done right, and then

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Speaker 2: we can move along.

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