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Speaker 2: Welcome to the program. This, of course is Stinchfield tonight.

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Speaker 2: So great to have you along with me today. We

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Speaker 2: are well into the season of exposure. I actually like

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Speaker 2: to call it the season of retribution. I am so

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Speaker 2: happy to tell you tonight that the National Security Advisor

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Speaker 2: John Bolton has now been charged with eighteen counts of

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Speaker 2: sharing thousands of pages of classified information, many of them

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Speaker 2: marked top secret.

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Speaker 1: Who did he share this information to?

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Speaker 2: Two individuals labeled in this indictment and I have read

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Speaker 2: through the twenty six page in indictment. These two individuals

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Speaker 2: appear to be his editors. The problem is in the indictment.

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Speaker 2: It's not that this was for his book. This was

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Speaker 2: information outside of what he published in the book, very

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Speaker 2: sensitive information.

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Speaker 1: Let me go through some of it.

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Speaker 2: It was intelligence about future attacks. It was foreign adversaries,

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Speaker 2: future missile attacks. All of this compromising national security the

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Speaker 2: United States of America. There was intel on foreign adversaries

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Speaker 2: in many respects, and it revealed human intelligence operations and

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Speaker 2: sensitive sources and methods. To me what is spelled out

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Speaker 2: in this indictment, I believe there were people put at risk,

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Speaker 2: Americans put at risk because John Bolton decided to share

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Speaker 2: this information, maybe for a book.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it was his editors.

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Speaker 2: It does it mat or imagine if those editors were compromised.

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Speaker 2: Now through all of this in emails to these individuals

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Speaker 2: one and two, he basically acknowledges what he was doing

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Speaker 2: was wrong.

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Speaker 1: This is Attorney Mike Davis.

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Speaker 3: What's damning for John Bolton in this indictment is they

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Speaker 3: go through in this indictment to show his knowledge and intent.

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Speaker 3: They go through and quote John Bolton in the past

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Speaker 3: for when he's talked about how doing the very things

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Speaker 3: he allegedly did here is a very serious national security crime, espionage.

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Speaker 3: And they go through these documents, and some of these

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Speaker 3: documents are top secret.

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Speaker 1: So they spell it out that Bolton was well aware.

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Speaker 2: That's what Mike Davis is saying here, that he was

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Speaker 2: well aware of exactly what.

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Speaker 1: He was doing.

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Speaker 2: Now, many of the liberals will go back to President Trump,

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Speaker 2: all this is retribution. Well, it's only retribution, But on

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Speaker 2: top of the retribution, it happens to be a man who,

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Speaker 2: in my opinion, sure looks like he's broken the law

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Speaker 2: according to this indictment. Now I know from sources very

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Speaker 2: close to President Trump that the only thing President Trump

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Speaker 2: directed the DOJ to do is go after those people who.

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Speaker 1: Broke the law.

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Speaker 2: Beyond that, the DOJ was completely on its own. Here

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Speaker 2: here's President Trump.

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Speaker 4: It was just indicted by Granduria and Maryland.

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Speaker 5: You have a reaction to that.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know that you told me for the first time.

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Speaker 6: But I think he's, you know, a bad person.

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Speaker 2: I think he's a bad guy.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he's a bad guy, too bad, but it's the

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Speaker 6: way it goes.

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Speaker 2: Well. He was a warmonger, and I believe John Bolton

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Speaker 2: was one of the crew that was that was there

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Speaker 2: to try to sink President Trump along the way. Now,

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Speaker 2: maybe the most damaging in all of this is that

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Speaker 2: the mainstream liberal corporate media seems to see what I see,

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Speaker 2: that this indictment is most certainly legit.

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Speaker 7: This from CNN, and that is the sort of thing

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Speaker 7: that the Justice Department does say frequently, not just in

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Speaker 7: the climate of a Trump administration, that that's something that

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Speaker 7: you should not do. We have seen many charges like

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Speaker 7: this before of other high ranking officials.

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Speaker 2: All Right, so I'm not an attorney, but I can

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Speaker 2: tell you I've read through a lot of indictments. This

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Speaker 2: one's twenty six pages long. It seems to use John

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Speaker 2: Bolton's own words against him. Clearly, the DOJ spells out

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Speaker 2: they have the documents that show this is classified information

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Speaker 2: being pushed out to someone, to people who shouldn't have it.

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Speaker 1: What's the chance of a conviction? How strong is this case?

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Speaker 2: I want to bring in now, twenty year defensive attorney

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Speaker 2: Sam Rjowski is with us.

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Speaker 1: Sam, Welcome to the program.

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Speaker 2: Great to be with you.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's great to have you on. Sam.

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Speaker 2: I imagine you've had a chance to read through this

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Speaker 8: My first impression reading this is it is a very

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Speaker 8: quality a piece of work. I mean, the prosecutors here

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Speaker 8: think they've gotten dead to rights, you know, going through this.

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Speaker 8: It's a methodical takedown of someone who thought for a

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Speaker 8: long time he was untouchable, he was above the law,

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Speaker 8: he could do things by the way. Bolton has a

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Speaker 8: history of criticizing Trump and his handling of classified documents, so.

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Speaker 2: This to me.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I see a conviction happening here if these

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Speaker 8: facts are as alleged and they're able to demonstrate so

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Speaker 2: You know, Bolton's in real trouble.

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 2: One of the things that prosecutors did in this indictment

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Speaker 2: Bold that always been claiming that, oh, I got all

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Speaker 2: of this stuff for approval, this was for the book. Well,

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Speaker 2: they make a point of spelling out that much of

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Speaker 2: what's in this indictment did not end up in the book,

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Speaker 2: and that is not what was approved by the DJ

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Speaker 8: Your thoughts on that, Well, that's exactly right, and that's

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Speaker 8: going to be you know, that's something that they they

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Speaker 8: have have mentioned. But there clearly that you know, there

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Speaker 8: was I guess there was a Google you know, document page,

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Speaker 8: you know systems that they were transmitting thousands of pages

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Speaker 8: of critically sensitive information that had then, if you'll recall,

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Speaker 8: was hacked by the Iranians in twenty twenty one and

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Speaker 8: created a huge problem for the US. You know, the

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Speaker 8: the the investigation into this didn't begin with Trump.

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Speaker 1: It began.

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Speaker 2: It began under.

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Speaker 8: Biden and the Biden people were looking at this, but

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Speaker 8: they they held it under ramps because Bolton was a

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Speaker 8: useful tool for them to fight Trump, so they you know,

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Speaker 8: this scandal goes such a political story. If the prosecution

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Speaker 8: prosecution under the Biden administration of Bolton. Otherwise, this is

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Speaker 8: all very straightforward, Sam.

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Speaker 2: One of the things that I noticed in this is

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Speaker 2: that Bolton kept what he called a diary, and he

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Speaker 2: would send these diary entries. And in the diary entries

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Speaker 2: was the release of classified information? Am I right in

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Speaker 2: believing that if you take something out of a classified

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Speaker 2: document and you would handwrite it, share that with somebody else,

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Speaker 2: that's the same equivalent of sharing a classified document.

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Speaker 8: That is absolutely correct. So the law does not specify

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Speaker 8: that you have to reproduce exactly the same document in

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Speaker 8: its original form, with its original classifications. You could tell somebody,

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Speaker 8: and turn to the person next to you and share

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Speaker 8: what you read in a classified document, And that in

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Speaker 8: and of itself is a problem removing documents, transcribing anything

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Speaker 8: that all of this is obviously is covered by that statute.

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Speaker 8: So I that that that defense isn't going to go

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Speaker 2: All Right, real quick, I'm gonna play Andrew McCabe. This

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Speaker 2: guy's a bad actor, but even he surprises me here

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Speaker 2: with his assessment of this case.

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Speaker 5: Check this out from his position, was certainly in a

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Speaker 5: two over unauthorized systems, open email systems like AOL and

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Speaker 5: Google things like that.

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Speaker 2: So that allegation alone.

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Speaker 5: In parts a great deal of intent. It's gonna be

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Speaker 5: hard for uh, mister Bolton to argue that those transmissions

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Speaker 2: All right, So, Sam, that's Andrew McKay. That's a very

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Speaker 2: bad actor from the old FBI. I'll give you the

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Speaker 2: last word here. Where do you think this goes? Well?

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Speaker 8: I always get nervous when I agree with Andrew McKay,

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Speaker 8: But I mean I agree with him, and so do you.

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Speaker 8: But I would add, just as a lawyer, that you

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Speaker 8: know your assessment of it earlier in your opening monologue

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Speaker 8: was even more on the nose. Bolton acknowledges openly that

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Speaker 8: what he's doing is wrong. And we lawyers we call

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Speaker 8: this men's rea. It's the consciousness of guilt, and he

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Speaker 8: expresses it and it's there.

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Speaker 2: I mean it.

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Speaker 8: Honestly, this couldn't be a better case to bring on

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Speaker 8: charges like these.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you, it's like bittersweet justice when some

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Speaker 2: of these people start to fall because they were so

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Speaker 2: evil against President Trump. They had their own agenda, they

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Speaker 2: were pushing them so elves. They had self interest far

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Speaker 2: above national interest and certainly above President Trump's interest. And

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Speaker 2: so to me, I can only smile when something like

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Speaker 2: this happens on a daylight today. Thank you so much

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Speaker 2: for coming on tonight. I know we called you a

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Speaker 2: short notice, Sam, but it's always great to see you.

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Speaker 2: Always good to deal with you.

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Speaker 1: Grant, Thank you, my friend.

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Speaker 2: All right now I want to turn to maybe one

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Speaker 2: of the most astonishing ice arrests yet. This is an

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Speaker 2: illegal alien who happened to be a police officer with

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Speaker 2: the Hanover Park Police Department, a suburb of Chicago. That's right,

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Speaker 2: the illegal alien happened to be a police officer. We

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Speaker 2: would never have known about this if it wasn't for

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Speaker 2: Ben Berkwam and his fabulous reporting for real America's voice.

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Speaker 1: Here's Ben.

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Speaker 10: Apparently this gentleman here, he's a police officer at Hanover.

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Speaker 6: The police department just outside of Chicago. Is here illegally

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Speaker 6: over states visa. How he got a job as a

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Speaker 6: police officer here? Crazy?

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Speaker 1: Crazy is an understatement.

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Speaker 2: So he overstayed his visa by ten years years twenty fifteen,

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Speaker 2: it expired, and somehow he gets a job as a cop.

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Speaker 2: He says he loves America. I'm actually sure that the

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Speaker 2: man probably does. But you can't have this going on. Ben,

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Speaker 2: in his great work, he actually sat down and talked

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Speaker 2: to this officer or slash illegal alien over state a visa. So, hola,

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Speaker 2: have you been a police officer?

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Speaker 11: Generates generate?

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Speaker 12: I just didn't.

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Speaker 2: You had to get.

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Speaker 10: Just to confirm that too, So they hired you on

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Speaker 10: Uh you had work authorization correct, and.

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Speaker 1: You were able to carry a firearm.

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Speaker 6: No, so on duty you could carry a fire.

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Speaker 13: Instead of ILLINOI you need a food and but on

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Speaker 13: duty you could correct.

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Speaker 1: Well, so hear what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: The police said on duty he could carry a firearm

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Speaker 2: because he's not an American citizen or a permanent resident

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Speaker 2: in the United States. The only two ways you're allowed

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Speaker 2: to carry a firearm under the Constitution, so these a

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Speaker 2: holder can't, so he has to check his firearm in

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Speaker 2: his locker. I mean, how does somebody who overstays his

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Speaker 2: visa even get hired? Well, I want to bring in

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Speaker 2: now who is live in Chicago, Rav correspondent, the band

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Speaker 2: who broke the story that everybody is following now, Ben Berke,

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Speaker 2: one is with us.

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Speaker 1: Ben, It's always great to have you on.

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Speaker 10: We had a crazy ride yesterday, ten arrests, including that one.

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Speaker 2: We We're gonna probably say I'm crazy, But part of

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Speaker 2: How do you let it.

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Speaker 1: Go for ten years?

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Speaker 10: And honestly, Grant, I believe that there is either will

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Speaker 10: Illegals are are almost special classes of citizens in these

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Speaker 2: Then it's it's a stunning story, to say the least.

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Speaker 10: Basically, what you're saying is they can't control themselves.

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Speaker 8: You can play about.

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Speaker 2: Well, no, I came up because this.

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Speaker 6: Is this was blocked off. I just wanted to let

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Speaker 1: That wasn't the right sound.

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Speaker 2: But let's go to cut three guys, please, thank thank you, Hoola.

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Speaker 1: Have you been a police officer?

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Speaker 12: They still cannot ignore the fact that he was overstayed.

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Speaker 6: We've confirmed that, so he's he's overstay correct.

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Speaker 10: Well, look, these guys are battling enemies within our country,

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Speaker 10: You could see it was tough for a lot of them.

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Speaker 10: It's like, man, this guy wants to be a cop.

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Speaker 10: He seems to be legitimate. You feel that sense of

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Speaker 6: But you also got that sense like it's not right.

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Speaker 10: I mean the fact that he can't legally own a

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Speaker 10: And he hasn't sworn allegiance to this nation, yet he's

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Speaker 10: it makes sense. So you could tell they were really disappointed.

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Speaker 10: In particular in the law of enforcement agency and really

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Speaker 6: But it begs the question, Grant.

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Speaker 10: What I keep coming back to is, Look, this guy

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Speaker 1: It's a great point.

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Speaker 2: And I would also put some culpability on this officer

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Speaker 1: And when you sit on things, bad things happen.

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Speaker 2: Ben.

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Speaker 1: This was a you know, you always.

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Speaker 2: Got great reports. We always love having you on, but

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Speaker 2: this this one was an eye popper. Thank you, my friend, as.

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Speaker 6: Always, Yeah, my pleasure.

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Speaker 2: God bless you absolutely And you know this goes to

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Speaker 2: the Ice agents. I tell you, every day, all they

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Speaker 2: But no, it's the law and that's what they do.

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Speaker 2: They go arrest people who are breaking it. Now, I

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Speaker 2: he made it clear.

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Speaker 1: He hates cops.

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Speaker 2: In fact, this guy would rather support Hamas than police

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Speaker 2: talking about the wacky communist Mam Donnie, who's running for

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Speaker 1: Now there's a big debate tonight.

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Speaker 2: Cuomo, Mom Donnie and Curtis Sleewa, the Republican. But this

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Speaker 14: But do you believe that Hamas should lay down their

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Speaker 13: I believe that any future here in New York City

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Speaker 14: But you won't say that Hamas should lay down their

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Speaker 13: I don't really have opinions about the future of Hamas

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Speaker 2: So again, this guy is a full on anti semit

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Speaker 2: that is clear. He hats cops. All he wants to

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Speaker 1: That's New York City.

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Speaker 2: I want to bring in now, founder of Pinion Enterprises,

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Speaker 2: Senate in New York's opinion is with me, Joe, Welcome

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Speaker 15: Always good to be with you, my friend. Again, strange

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Speaker 2: It sure is, Joe. This debate is huge tonight. Look,

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Speaker 2: I despise Cuomo. I think Cuomo was a serial killer.

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Speaker 2: But when he put all those COVID folks back into

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Speaker 1: But I'm not convinced he can win. I want him to,

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Speaker 2: How do you look at this race, this debate tonight,

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Speaker 2: How important.

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Speaker 15: I think the reality is Curtisly is a great New Yorker,

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Speaker 2: All right, tell me if I'm crazy here, Joe So,

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Speaker 2: I grew up in an erand New York City. I

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Speaker 2: the point if Curtis Leewa cannot win, I can't stand Cuomo.

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Speaker 1: I don't think the guy's legit.

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Speaker 2: I'd almost rather have Mam Donnie win, just to show

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Speaker 2: You want a guy like that, well we'll give you

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Speaker 2: I don't know, am I maybe like the worst attitude

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Speaker 15: I have heard this kind of rumination from some of

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Speaker 15: not what's going to happen. There is no political will

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Speaker 2: Joe. My point is, though, that if they implement these ideas,

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Speaker 2: The city will collapse. Do we use as an example? Now,

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Speaker 15: It is hard to turn that around. The decades, the

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Speaker 15: be quantified. So yes, I think in practice, America will

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Speaker 15: not come to an end if Mom Donnie is mayor.

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Speaker 15: But trying to rebuild New York into what we know

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Speaker 15: it to be and what we love, I think could

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Speaker 15: take many, many years that we simply don't have, and

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Speaker 15: I think the people can't afford.

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Speaker 2: All Right, real quick, I mean I can't even believe

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Speaker 2: I'm asking Joe opinion if he would support Cuomo over Sliwa,

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Speaker 2: But would you?

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Speaker 1: Is that what you're recommending people to do.

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Speaker 15: I mean, look, I'm not currently living in New York City,

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Speaker 15: thank the good Lord. I think people have to search

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Speaker 15: their hearts. Certainly I can say from my own family.

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Speaker 15: I mean, my grandmother, she died that over one hundred

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Speaker 15: years on this earth, but I believe would have had

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Speaker 15: fourteen more months for her if we didn't have the

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Speaker 15: ridiculous lockdowns, if we didn't have these policies in the

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Speaker 15: nursing homes in New York States. So I don't know

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Speaker 15: what I would be doing if it came to me

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Speaker 15: going into that voting booth, But I do think that

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Speaker 15: people need to seriously ask themselves the question when they

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Speaker 15: walk into that booth.

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Speaker 1: Is the bubble that I.

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Speaker 15: Am filling in going to be the person that can win?

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Speaker 2: And if on.

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Speaker 15: Election day, if all the data says that person can't win,

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Speaker 15: making yourself feel good is not what's in the best

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Speaker 15: interest of your family or the city.

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Speaker 2: Well, Joe, I appreciate your insight, I really do, and

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Speaker 2: I trust your judgment on things like this, which is

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Speaker 2: why I bring you on the program.

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Speaker 1: It's always great having you on. Thank you, my friend.

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Speaker 1: Appreciation my friend talks to you.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And so look, I want Curtis Leeway to win.

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Speaker 2: That's why I want to win for New York.

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Speaker 1: They have elections for a reason. Strange things can happen.

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Speaker 1: Is he the underdog?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, But I'm still praying somehow Curtis Lee will pulse

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Speaker 2: this out.

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Speaker 1: All right, folks, just a quick note.

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Speaker 2: you all right. Up next, the family of the Loudun

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Speaker 2: County boys accused of sexually harassing a transgender girl in

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Speaker 2: the boys locker room get slap with having to post

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Speaker 2: a massive bond to keep their lawsuit going.

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Speaker 1: This is the height of lunacy. That's next.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back everyone. The battle over common sense continues.

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Speaker 1: Wait till you hear this story.

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Speaker 2: So two boys in a Louden County of Virginia high

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Speaker 2: school a girl pretending to be a boy. They call

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Speaker 2: them a transgender. I don't know if you call the

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Speaker 2: transgender boy or girl. I don't know, but she's a

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Speaker 2: biological girl. Going into a boy's locker room, she starts

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Speaker 2: videotaping the boys, and the boys say this is out

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Speaker 2: of control.

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Speaker 1: We don't want the girl in our locker room.

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Speaker 2: Guess who gets suspended from school in Louden County, which

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Speaker 2: happens to be ground zero for the transgender lunacy. The

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Speaker 2: boys get suspended for not being tolerant, so the boys

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Speaker 2: who the school. Good news is Judge says the boys

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Speaker 2: can go back to school after being suspended, but they

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Speaker 2: were also forced to post a one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 2: five thousand dollars bond in case they lose the case

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Speaker 2: so they could pay the defendants' legal fees in this

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Speaker 2: the school district. This is insanity. Well, one of the

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Speaker 2: fathers of the boys was on with Laura Ingram last night.

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Speaker 16: It's slow and steady, but we're trying to get into

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Speaker 16: this fight and do the best we can. So we've

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Speaker 16: set up some donation page and we're just hoping that

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Speaker 16: we can get the community to stand behind us because

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Speaker 16: it's almost impossible to raise this money in the amount

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Speaker 16: of time that they've given us.

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Speaker 2: Well, miraculously they raised the money, and I believe a

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Speaker 2: lot of it had to do with Laura Ingram show

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Speaker 2: the Gifts Send Go platform that they have. They raised

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Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty five thousand, so this case can

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Speaker 2: now continue. This is the attorney for the boys who

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Speaker 2: literally lays out what this case is all about.

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Speaker 9: But look, the bottom line here is this is not

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Speaker 9: Title nine. Title nine is sexual harassment. We all know

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Speaker 9: what sexual harassment is. You know, Louden County Public Schools

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Speaker 9: had one hundred and fifty nine Title nine complaints, and

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Speaker 9: they did zero on one hundred and fifty nine their

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Speaker 9: own internal report found. Now they come here and find

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Speaker 9: Title nine violations against boys for merely expressing discomfort with

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Speaker 9: a girl in the boys locker room. We know exactly

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Speaker 9: why they did that.

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Speaker 1: It's all politically motivated, of course it is.

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Speaker 2: And as I mentioned, Loudon County is ground zero for

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Speaker 2: all of this. What is driving this? I mean, the

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Speaker 2: lack of common sense here is just outrageous. And it's

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Speaker 2: happening all across the country. I do believe though people

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Speaker 2: are waking up to this. One reason they're waking up

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Speaker 2: to this is because of groups like Moms for Liberty.

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Speaker 2: I want to bring in now the co founder Tina

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Speaker 2: Dskovich of Moms for Liberty.

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Speaker 1: Tina, it's great to have you on the program.

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Speaker 14: Thank you, it's great to be with you.

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Speaker 1: Tina. We hear stories like this, I mean, are you

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Speaker 1: kidding me? You suspend the boys? How does this happen?

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Speaker 1: And you know it is? Are these types of stories

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Speaker 1: one place?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, we see these things happening all across the country,

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Speaker 14: and it happens because we don't pay attention to school

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Speaker 14: board races. That's something Moms for the Briddy puts a

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Speaker 14: big focus on. Before I launched Moms for the Riddy,

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Speaker 14: I was a school board member myself from twenty sixteen

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Speaker 14: to twenty twenty, and it was so hard to get

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Speaker 14: people engaged in school board elections understanding school issues, and

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Speaker 14: it's it's really unfortunate because it's the largest part of

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Speaker 14: most communities budgets, and so there's a lot of work

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Speaker 14: still to be done in America to make sure people

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Speaker 14: are awake electing good people to these school boards so

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Speaker 14: we can avoid these situations altogether.

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Speaker 2: All right, let me play a clip from a recorded

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Speaker 2: video that was inside that locker room when the boys

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Speaker 2: were there being videotaped by this girl. How that is

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Speaker 2: even acceptable? I have no idea, but take a listen

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Speaker 2: to this female. All right, So, Tina, they say it's uncomfortable, Bro,

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Speaker 2: she's a female, Get out of here?

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Speaker 1: Now? Is that intolerant?

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Speaker 2: I can only imagine if it was a female in

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Speaker 2: there and there's a boy in the girl's locker room

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Speaker 2: that I think the girls would be entitled to say

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Speaker 2: something like that.

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Speaker 14: Actually, girls are not entitled these days to say something

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Speaker 14: like that either. Look, I'm a mom of boys myself,

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Speaker 14: and they absolutely would be uncomfortable with females in their

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Speaker 14: locker room. And so my heart goes out to them.

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Speaker 14: This is nonsense that's happening in America, and Mom's Liberty

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Speaker 14: is ready to stand with these boys and all children

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Speaker 14: across America, boys and girls that deserve to have privacy

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Speaker 14: and safe spaces.

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Speaker 2: All right, what do you tell parents out there? Did

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Speaker 2: you expect to be in this position of leading moms

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Speaker 2: for liberty? It's one of the top two or three

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Speaker 2: of the groups of moms out there, the mom of

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Speaker 2: bears as we call them. Did you expect to be here?

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Speaker 13: No?

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Speaker 14: Absolutely not. When we launched in January of twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 14: I actually wrote a five of your business plan that

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Speaker 14: included in five years we would maybe cover the state

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Speaker 14: of Florida. And here we are across the country. Now

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Speaker 14: we're in forty eight states. We have three hundred and

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Speaker 14: twenty chapters that each cover a county. We have one

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Speaker 14: hundred and thirty thousand active members, you know, another half

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Speaker 14: a million or something on our mail list, and so

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Speaker 14: I couldn't have imagined this in my wildest dreams. But

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Speaker 14: it's it's very sad that it's needed. I would love

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Speaker 14: to get to the point where Moms for Liberty is

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Speaker 14: not needed to be watchdogs on the school boards because

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Speaker 14: we elect good school board members and we have good

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Speaker 14: people in office that want to protect children instead of

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Speaker 14: putting them in hard's way.

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Speaker 1: Well, Tina, it's great having you on the program.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate all the work that you and Moms for

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Speaker 2: Liberty does out there, and I appreciate you coming on.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you for the time. Absolutely so, folks,

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about common sense. It's not just

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Speaker 2: school boards, which Tina is correct. I mean that's one

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Speaker 2: of the most important positions when you talk about elected

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Speaker 2: leaders that will directly affect how your children grow and prosper.

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Speaker 2: But it's also at other levels. You have this woman

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Speaker 2: out there, her name is Betty Yee. She is running

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Speaker 2: for California governor. And this woman has no chance of

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Speaker 2: winning the California governor see when Gavin Newsom gives it up,

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Speaker 2: but the Olympics are coming to California. You want to

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Speaker 2: hear what she has to say about all of this.

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Speaker 2: Take a listen, cut one, please, But my question is

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Speaker 2: whether you think they should compete in women's sport and

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Speaker 2: the Olympics because it's coming to LA, so it's relevant.

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Speaker 2: I think transgender female athletes are women athletes and they

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Speaker 2: should be able to Really, no, they're not. They're not

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Speaker 2: women athletes. They're men pretending to be women. Now that's California.

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Speaker 2: What about Virginia. You've got basically the same situation there,

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Speaker 2: Abigail Spaanberger. She basically claims that women should be men

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Speaker 2: should be completing in women's sports, But when you get

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Speaker 2: on the debate stage, she refuses to answer the question.

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Speaker 11: Cut three, should transgender girls who are biological males be

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Speaker 11: allowed to use girls' bathrooms and play on girls sports teams?

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Speaker 11: You have sixty seconds.

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Speaker 4: I'm a mother of three daughters in Virginia public schools

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Speaker 4: and nothing is more important to me than their safety.

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Speaker 2: So answer basically, the moderator asks, again, roll it.

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Speaker 4: See an effort carried on continually by this dispoundation.

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Speaker 11: Once again, the question was should transgender girls who are

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Speaker 11: biological males be allowed to use girls' bathrooms and play

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Speaker 11: on girl sports teams? In K through twelve. You have

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Speaker 11: fifteen seconds to clarify.

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Speaker 4: In cases across Virginia. I think it's incumbent upon parents

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Speaker 4: and educators and administrators in each low community to make

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Speaker 4: decisions locally.

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Speaker 2: Oh, the folks makes your head spin. So these are

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Speaker 2: important elections at every level. All right, folks, letsten to

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Speaker 2: make Democrats refuse to deal with Republicans over a standalone

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Speaker 2: Obamacare provision to end the shutdown. We will talk about

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Speaker 2: that next. And we are on turning Point USA. Watch

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Speaker 2: a great event in Oklahoma which we will bring to

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Speaker 2: you live. That too, is moments away.

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Speaker 1: Stick with me,