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Speaker 1: You're listening to sports.

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Speaker 2: Oh what is going on?

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Speaker 3: Happy Thanksgiving to everybody out there early Thursday morning, getting

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Speaker 3: you set for some Thanksgiving ball over here. I'm sure

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Speaker 3: you're gonna have a feast. J Martin, you get into

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Speaker 3: the Thanksgiving festivities, I mean, happy day for you, I

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Speaker 3: would imagine, so right, yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the family's grown. Obviously.

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Speaker 5: We now have two daughters, and you know, we can

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Speaker 5: see one of the sets of grandparents. My dad passed

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Speaker 5: last year and my mom's we don't we're not able

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Speaker 5: to see her the way that we once were. But yeah,

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Speaker 5: it's gonna be fun, and obviously we have a big

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Speaker 5: meal and celebrate a lot of a lot of things

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Speaker 5: that we have to be thankful for in this world.

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Speaker 5: And one of them, it looks like on this Thursday,

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Speaker 5: Brian is really good football. A lot of times these

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Speaker 5: games haven't been great, but there's some matchups in this one,

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Speaker 5: and there's some intriguing storylines as well. So I'm excited.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited for all three of these NFL games, and

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Speaker 3: I kind of feel sad for what do we have?

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Speaker 2: What's the college game? We've got? Uh, We've got Navy and.

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Speaker 3: Memphis, which is an okay game, but sandwiched in between

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Speaker 3: all this NFL stuff, that's uh, it's not gonna be

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Speaker 3: highly rated.

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Speaker 4: You know you're doing the commercial breaks, Yeah you could.

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Speaker 3: I'll absolutely have it going, you know, I'll have it

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Speaker 3: on like a side screen or a whatever, like a

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Speaker 2: But uh, yeah, it's gonna be.

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Speaker 3: The return of Joe Burrow and Lamar Jackson and everybody

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Speaker 3: else you know involved in this Bengals Ravens game tonight.

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Speaker 3: For me, that's gonna be the the center stage. You know,

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Speaker 3: I'm you know me, j Mart. We've done plenty of

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Speaker 3: shows together. And I love football. I am a ball addict.

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Speaker 3: I think I even put that on my ex bio

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Speaker 3: ball addict, and uh I didn't realize.

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Speaker 2: Careful, be careful, I don't. Yeah, but I put it.

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Speaker 3: In all caps, so I think everybody out he means football, right,

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Speaker 3: there's no uh, you know, there's no misconstruing that.

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Speaker 1: But that we're talking about here, that's right, that's right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know it.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that was crazy.

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Speaker 3: But I didn't know how much I was in football

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Speaker 3: mode until yesterday.

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Speaker 2: It's a true story.

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Speaker 3: I was watching the the Pistons and the Celtics and

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Speaker 3: Asar Thompson went up for a point blank shot and

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Speaker 3: he got bumped, and I said, out loud but sort

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Speaker 3: of to myself. I'm like, where's the flag? I go,

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Speaker 3: where's the flag? I met, where's the foul? But I'm

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Speaker 3: so in football mode. I literally said, during a basketball game,

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Speaker 3: where's the flag? Like, oh my gosh, I'm not in

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Speaker 3: basketball mode yet at all. I love hoops, but man,

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Speaker 3: I am in football mode right now.

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Speaker 5: J Mart, Yeah, dude, up with you, Like, I mean,

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Speaker 5: I'm a thunder fence. I'm pretty excited right now. But

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Speaker 5: at the same time, I'm not there yet. Like the

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Speaker 5: NBA Cup God bless it, but just I can't get

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Speaker 5: there yet. Like there's been some really nice college matchups

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Speaker 5: and it's not like I've seen none of this stuff,

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Speaker 5: but yeah, the brain is college and pro football oriented

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Speaker 5: right now. To say the least, it has my attention.

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Speaker 5: And we're getting down to the NDF one season, so

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Speaker 5: I've been obviously really watching that pretty hard as well.

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Speaker 1: But like there's just this NBA season's got a long long.

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Speaker 4: Way to go.

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Speaker 5: It's just there's so much basketball that's still going to

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Speaker 5: be left to watch after all the football was done,

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Speaker 5: it's just hard to get my attention on any given

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Speaker 5: matchup right now. In college the problem is all the

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Speaker 5: good matchups, all those teams are gonna end up playing

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Speaker 5: each other again, or they're going to have an opportunity

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Speaker 5: to make the tournament in March because of how many

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Speaker 5: teams get in. And then on the flip side, in

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Speaker 5: the NBA, most those teams see each other four times

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Speaker 5: a year anyway, So what are you going to read

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Speaker 5: into what those teams are going to be in April

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Speaker 5: because of a Rocket's Warriors tilt on Thanksgiving Eve?

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it's true. It's one of those deals.

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Speaker 3: I never really thought of it like that, and it

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Speaker 3: really is obvious where to go from foot fotball season

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Speaker 3: and transition to basketball season.

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Speaker 2: Just think of it as.

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Speaker 3: A sports fan, just in terms of sense of urgency. Right,

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Speaker 3: if you look at college football, still a great sense

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Speaker 3: of urgency to win games right away. You maybe get

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Speaker 3: that's pretty much it. That's all you could really hope

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Speaker 3: for and still be able to be a playoff team.

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Speaker 2: So it's go time.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 3: You get a little bit more wiggle room with the NFL,

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Speaker 3: but these games matter. We're talking seeding, we're talking who

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Speaker 3: wins the division, who's a wildcard team. All that stuff

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Speaker 3: is very important. And I love hoops, but to go

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Speaker 3: from the sense of urgency that you have on a

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Speaker 3: game to game basis in football college in the NFL

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Speaker 3: to like either college or especially the NBA with eighty

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Speaker 3: two games, it's just not even remotely close. You can't

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Speaker 3: watch these games like, come on, let's go. It's not

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Speaker 2: Man, you have so much more wig.

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Speaker 4: Yeah you do.

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Speaker 5: And I mean it's even worse for baseball, right because yeah,

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Speaker 5: you have one hundred and sixty two games there. Even

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Speaker 5: what's funny about it is, I'm making this argument, and

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Speaker 5: you're agreeing with this argument, but it always comes down

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Speaker 5: to like the last few games to see who's gonna

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Speaker 5: it's just like, yeah, but those aren't the teams that

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Speaker 5: are likely to win the championship anyway. Like at that point,

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Speaker 5: you're kind of just watching the almost watching. You're watching

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Speaker 5: the NCAA bubble, which has grown less and less interesting

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Speaker 5: as the years have passed, but like to your point,

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Speaker 5: the NFL in college football, every game feels massive because

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Speaker 5: every game has such a seismic opportunity to shift what's

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Speaker 5: gonna happen in your division much less you know what

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Speaker 5: see it in the playoffs and all this. So I

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Speaker 5: think that's probably the biggest thing is that each football

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Speaker 5: game feels so monumentally important because there are so many

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Speaker 3: Them, absolutely no doubt about that. Well, you know, as

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Speaker 3: we look at the three NFL games here on Thanksgiving

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Speaker 3: more as we go on throughout the show today, but

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Speaker 3: just a broad view if you look at all three,

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Speaker 3: and Joe Burrow's return. Just in terms of like, you

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Speaker 3: you're like, I gotta have some time to see this game?

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Speaker 3: In particular, is there one that you have out of

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Speaker 5: Well, man, I mean, they all have really intriguing storylines.

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Speaker 5: One of the things that I want to talk about

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Speaker 5: an hour or two is things that we've been dead

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Speaker 5: wrong about in the NFL so far this season. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: and I think that each of these games potentially has

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Speaker 4: The only thing that.

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Speaker 5: I would say, of just of the three games, the

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Speaker 5: Bengals Ravens. Okay, interesting that that'd be in the divisional matchup.

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Speaker 4: Obviously, so is the opener of the day.

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Speaker 5: But I want to see what Joe Burrow looks like

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Speaker 5: coming back, because I did not feel like this was

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Speaker 5: I wasn't looking at Joe Burrow being back on Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 5: I thought this was probably gonna take a little bit longer.

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Speaker 5: And I wasn't sure by the time he came back,

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Speaker 4: So, and I don't know that it is. But then

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Speaker 4: you look at the.

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Speaker 5: Flip side with Baltimore. Baltimore doesn't have much room to

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Speaker 5: mess around either. Yeah, and the thing that's really intriguing

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Speaker 5: about then is, yes, they won their last game, but

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Speaker 5: how impressive did they look doing it? Like Almost nothing

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Speaker 5: I've seen from the Baltimore Ravens during the course of

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Speaker 5: this season has left me feeling comfortable about what's happening

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Speaker 5: there this season. I feel like I'm watching a lost season.

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Speaker 5: But at the same time, they can easily get where

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Speaker 5: have the talent on the team to do it. But

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Speaker 5: it's just kind of baffling to me how this thing

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's true.

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Speaker 3: And that's the thing with the Ravens where you would

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Speaker 3: think after the slow, slow start where they go one

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Speaker 3: for them to win five straight, you know, just on paper,

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Speaker 3: if someone wasn't paying close attention, Let's say they were

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Speaker 3: playing ketchup. If they looked and said, wow, Ravens are

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Speaker 3: they got a lot of momentum. They're really kicking it

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Speaker 3: very shoulder shruggy, if you will, right, it's been very,

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Speaker 3: very ordinary, And Lamar doesn't look to be the superstar

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Speaker 3: that he is. He's a two time MVP. Some would

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Speaker 3: argue he should be a three time MVP. He doesn't

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Speaker 3: look like that. He looks like an unhealthy guy that's

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Speaker 3: have to wonder if they're gonna be able to kick

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Speaker 3: don't look like it right now at all.

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Speaker 4: No, they don't.

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Speaker 5: And then here's the reason why I'm so interested about

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Speaker 5: is he? But this is a three and eight football team,

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Speaker 5: right like, I mean, you look at their record right now,

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Speaker 5: I mean they basically have to run the table to

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Speaker 5: And the biggest reason is because in his absence, it's

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Speaker 5: not as if Cincinnati hasn't been able to score points.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not.

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Speaker 5: Like their offense has been you know, managed by I

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Speaker 5: don't know. I was gonna try to find a really

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Speaker 5: bad Cleo Lemon. I was gonna try to find like

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Speaker 5: a really bad Dolphins quarterback. Since I know you're a

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Speaker 5: Miami fan. Okay, yeah, yeah, that's going to hit right

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Speaker 5: close to home to you.

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Speaker 1: Sure.

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Speaker 5: But the problem is the defense hasn't been good and

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Speaker 5: that doesn't change with Joe Burrow coming back, Like he

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Speaker 5: still lose because that's what they were doing a lot

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Speaker 5: And look, that's right. I think save the season is

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Speaker 3: It's crazy. And as far as the Cowboys like this,

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Speaker 3: He's putting up numbers that are just ridiculous right now,

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Speaker 3: Explore everywhere, all right, j Mart So, uh, you know,

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Speaker 3: this might be the first time in my radio career

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Speaker 5: run into some kind of adversity. And maybe they don't right,

438
00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,280
Speaker 5: maybe they're just gonna absolutely crush everybody. But I find

439
00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,440
Speaker 5: it hard to believe that they're not going to run

440
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,399
Speaker 5: into some kind of drama at some point in the

441
00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:52,719
Speaker 5: college football postseason.

442
00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,439
Speaker 4: And that's where we're going to find out how good.

443
00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:56,960
Speaker 1: Ohio State is. That's why they have them.

444
00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,199
Speaker 4: I have them as to back up, and I have

445
00:20:59,280 --> 00:20:59,800
Speaker 4: Georgia in.

446
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,560
Speaker 5: The reason for that is because look, they went two

447
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:06,400
Speaker 5: Knoxville and beat Tennessee when Tennessee was rolling. Their only

448
00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,840
Speaker 5: loss was a field goal loss to Alabama. Then they've

449
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,159
Speaker 5: beaten an Ole Miss team that's really good. They crushed

450
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:17,199
Speaker 5: the soul of a Texas team. Yeah, and then of

451
00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:18,960
Speaker 5: course they're going to see Georgia Tech this weekend. But

452
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,479
Speaker 5: they've been in some close matchups, they've come back, and

453
00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,439
Speaker 5: I just feel like they have the best coach in

454
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:24,919
Speaker 5: the sport.

455
00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:27,600
Speaker 4: There's a couple of other guys that I would.

456
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,919
Speaker 5: Throw in that mix, but after watching Kirby Smart and

457
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,520
Speaker 5: some of just the decisions that he has made, the

458
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,880
Speaker 5: on side kicks, the just the things that have completely

459
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,400
Speaker 5: turned football games around, I feel like he's the coach

460
00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,639
Speaker 5: that you need to make the choice in a close

461
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 5: football game between teams that have very similar talent to

462
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,280
Speaker 5: get the job done. So it feels like chalk because

463
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:51,679
Speaker 5: I looked at it and I said, well, you know,

464
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:52,200
Speaker 5: you want.

465
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 4: To take Texas A and M. They're undefeated.

466
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,880
Speaker 5: A and M hasn't played a particularly impressive schedule. By

467
00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,879
Speaker 5: my estimation. Notre Dames look great over the last couple

468
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,919
Speaker 5: of months, and I really like what they're doing and

469
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 5: my goodness, can they score points. But you know, you

470
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 5: still look at their schedule and what they've had to

471
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,159
Speaker 5: do since the opening two games.

472
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously they did what they did against USC.

473
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,880
Speaker 5: But they're beating up on a lot of second tier

474
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,160
Speaker 5: programs and I think that you can kind of poke

475
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 5: holes in a lot of arguments with that.

476
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 4: Even Indiana same way.

477
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,440
Speaker 5: I mean, yes, they beat Oregon, but how many really

478
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 5: impressive wins have they had to this point. I think

479
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 5: you can make an argument that any of those teams

480
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 5: are good enough to potentially win it all. But if

481
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 5: I'm just basing it on the evidence and the lack

482
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,159
Speaker 5: of blemish and the battle testing, that's why I have

483
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,359
Speaker 5: to give Georgia the nod. And it sounds like chalk

484
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 5: to say Georgia and Ohio State, but I just kind

485
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:43,919
Speaker 5: of look at it, and when I look at the

486
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,160
Speaker 5: schedules and what they've done during the course of the year,

487
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 5: that's where I come out.

488
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it makes sense. I would go. I would

489
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 2: agree with you on Georgia.

490
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,400
Speaker 3: That would be my first choice, and my second choice

491
00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 3: might require some explaining and you might, you know, call

492
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 3: me a Homer, but I'd go Notre Dame.

493
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:03,400
Speaker 4: I go Notre Dame.

494
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 3: But the first the first choice, and the reason why

495
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 3: I'd go with Georgia. They are just battle tested, man,

496
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,440
Speaker 3: and you laid it out very well. Their only loss

497
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,119
Speaker 3: is a three point loss to Alabama. That's not the

498
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 3: worst thing ever. You play a big boy schedule. They've

499
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,919
Speaker 3: had these really impressive fourth quarters. It is alarming that

500
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 3: they've consistently gotten off to slow starts. Yes, but I'd

501
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 3: rather get off to slow starts and have strong finishes,

502
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, like their money in the

503
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 3: fourth quarter.

504
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 1: And this is my movie's not.

505
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 5: Great at the beginning. That's all right, as long as

506
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,440
Speaker 5: it lands, that's right, because yeah, they remember the end. Yeah,

507
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,399
Speaker 5: my movie is terrible in the end. People are going

508
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,360
Speaker 5: to remember my movie as being bad. That's exactly right.

509
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

510
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 3: This is my favorite quote of the college football season,

511
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 3: and one of my favorite quotes ever from Kirby Smart.

512
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,920
Speaker 3: This is the short version of him describing his own

513
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 3: football team.

514
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 4: The one thing we are, we're hard to kill.

515
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 2: That's right.

516
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,160
Speaker 3: That was after the Old Miss comeback this with seventeen points.

517
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 3: They outscored All Miss seventeen to nothing in the fourth

518
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,159
Speaker 3: quarter and just blew the doors off of them.

519
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,640
Speaker 2: And that's what they are, man. They just keep battling.

520
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 3: That Tennessee game on the road early in the season,

521
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 3: that was one of those deals. They're down by eight,

522
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 3: you know, they had a touchdown. The touchdown pass like

523
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 3: in the corner of the end zone over the shoulder.

524
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 2: It was a thing of beauty. But they just keep battling.

525
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 4: Man.

526
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 3: They don't have this this thought process of it's probably

527
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,879
Speaker 3: just not in the cards today. They don't think like

528
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 3: that at all. They're like, we're just we're balling, man,

529
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 3: We're playing ball here. We're gonna try to put it

530
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 3: drive together, you know, a gain a first down, get

531
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 3: a stop, and see where we are. And they are.

532
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 3: They're very, very hard to kill. And that's the thing

533
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 3: I love most about Georgia. And you need a team

534
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 3: that's battle tested come playoff time. It's not gonna be

535
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 3: an easy road to a championship no matter where you're seated.

536
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 3: So I like Georgia the most, and my second choice

537
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:02,360
Speaker 3: would be the Irish. You look at the first two

538
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 3: games of the season. Those are the first two college

539
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,880
Speaker 3: starts of CJ. Carr's career, you know what I mean.

540
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 3: And he wasn't bad in either of those though he

541
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,400
Speaker 3: was not, But with as much seasoning as he has

542
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 3: right now, you're seeing a really good quarterback put up

543
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 3: big numbers with a lethal running game and a defense

544
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 3: that has vastly improved improved. And you made a great

545
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 3: point about the schedule because you could look at that

546
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 3: and be like struggling to see the really impressive wins.

547
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,159
Speaker 3: It's one thing to play Miami tough, play Texas A

548
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 3: and m tough, but you got to win these games

549
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 3: at some point. That's totally fair. You wouldn't build this

550
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 3: argument based on the resume in terms of who they've beaten.

551
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 3: It's more so the talent that they have, the problems

552
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 3: that they present. And also when you've had the first

553
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 3: two games of CJ. Carr's career, I mean, if those

554
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 3: if Miami and Texas A and m are games like

555
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 3: ten and eleven instead of games one and two, they

556
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 3: might have won both of those games. So yeah, I

557
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 3: like the Irish, And you know, the gambling side of

558
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 3: me too is when you get the Irish at nine

559
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 3: to one, that's a little more appealing than like I

560
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 3: you at five to one, you know what I mean.

561
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 2: So that comes into the equation as well.

562
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:18,919
Speaker 4: So what's your feeling about Ohio State then?

563
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 5: Because you didn't really mention them at all, I mean,

564
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 5: are you kind of on the same wavelength to me?

565
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,360
Speaker 1: Where obviously they have.

566
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 5: Just insane amounts of Sunday talent. They've done that team,

567
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 5: they're they're the defending champions and say it has like

568
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 5: a one hundred percent completion percentage on the season. Right,

569
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 5: But who had they like the best real opponent they've

570
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,400
Speaker 5: seen as a Penn State team that had already basically

571
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 5: packed it in for the season.

572
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not. I'm not. I'm with you halfway.

573
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll meet you halfway and then I'll take a

574
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,880
Speaker 3: sharp left turn in another direction. Right, all right, You're

575
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 3: completely right about the talent. They have talent all over

576
00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:00,199
Speaker 3: this roster, like high end talent, you know, like you

577
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,360
Speaker 3: said Sunday talent, I like that got NFL dudes all

578
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,439
Speaker 3: over the place. So no one can question the talent

579
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 3: that they have on the roster. What I would question

580
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 3: is just the resume. Like they're the opposite of Georgia

581
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 3: in terms of being battle tested. Their resume is they

582
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 3: beat Texas in the first game of the season, fourteen

583
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 3: to seven at home. Right, that's the beginning and the

584
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 3: end of their impressive resume. They've played nobody. They've haven't

585
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 3: played anybody, right, So that's where when you're getting into

586
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 3: they're gonna have a bye, But you got to win

587
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 3: three games.

588
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 2: To win a championship.

589
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,959
Speaker 3: I just don't see it from this team, and I

590
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 3: think that I think they're overrated because I'm not saying

591
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 3: they stink at all, that would be ridiculous. But people

592
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 3: struggle with the overrated j Mart. It doesn't mean they stink.

593
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 3: It just means that the reputation is greater than the reality.

594
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 3: The reputation for Ohio State is like.

595
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Ohio State.

596
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 2: Like this team, what a machine. Look at that defense.

597
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 3: It's always just roses thrown at their bouquets just hurled

598
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 3: in the air at the and their general direction, you

599
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 3: know what I mean. And it's like, I don't think

600
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:20,479
Speaker 3: their resume warrants that at all. Their resume sucks. They

601
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 3: don't played anybody except Texas, a team that we clown

602
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 3: all the time, and everybody loves to talk trash about Arch.

603
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 2: You know, that's the only team they barely be.

604
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 4: I don't have to go into that, but yeah.

605
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 2: They beat them fourteen to seven. I just I don't

606
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 2: buy it.

607
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 4: You know, Week one is week one.

608
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 5: I mean not there name lost in week one too,

609
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 5: Like I mean, there's there's a lot of different ways

610
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 5: to go there. But you're not wrong, like I think that,

611
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 5: And the most important point you made.

612
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 4: There was the one.

613
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 5: About being overrated, Like I always say when someone is,

614
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 5: unless you're really being disrespectful when you say a team

615
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 5: is overrated, it doesn't.

616
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 4: Mean they shouldn't be rated.

617
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 5: It just means that the car looks a lot better

618
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 5: in the showroom sometimes because of the lighting that's on

619
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 5: it than it does when you have an on the highway.

620
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 3: It's exactly right, Yeah, the perfect way to say it. Yeah,

621
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 3: it's not to say that they're no good, it's just

622
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 3: like they're talked about in like oh Ohio. I talked

623
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 3: to my dad this week and he was like, what

624
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 3: do you think about Ohio State? And I'm like, I

625
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 3: think they're overrated And he was like what And I

626
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 3: explained it. He was like, I mean, I get it.

627
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 3: I get what you're saying right there. You know, it's

628
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 3: that's what I think, man. I just, uh, I think

629
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 3: you got to be battle tested to a greater degree

630
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 3: for me to really buy into you winning a championship,

631
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 3: and especially when you're the defending champs. You're the team

632
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 3: that it's marked, you know what I mean? And I

633
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 3: think if you really if you look into that too,

634
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 3: like why is Ohio State talked about so glowingly this year.

635
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 3: It's because they want it all last year. That's really why.

636
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 3: And I take nothing away from their championship season, nothing away,

637
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,959
Speaker 3: But if we're gonna use that and kind of gauge

638
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 3: where they are this season and make no mistake, that's

639
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 3: what's being done. We could look back and kind of look,

640
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 3: you know, kind of investigate this where you know, you

641
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 3: lost to or again on the road. Okay, you lost

642
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,959
Speaker 3: as a three touchdown favorite at home to Michigan, and

643
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 3: then you got hot at the right time. You blew

644
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 3: the doors off a flawed Tennessee team at home, you

645
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:23,719
Speaker 3: crushed Oregon.

646
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 2: That was very impressive. I take nothing away from that.

647
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 3: Then you survived against quinn Ewers in Texas, and then

648
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 3: you survived and held on for dear life against Notre

649
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 3: Dame in the title game. Again, take nothing away from

650
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 3: last season. But that's why their name is as big

651
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 3: as it is this season because they're the defending champs.

652
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 3: They haven't done anything resume wise this year to get

653
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 3: any of those accolades. They haven't played anybody, so it's

654
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 3: like we're we're just throwing roses at their feet because

655
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 3: they barely beat Quinn Ewers and held on against Notre Dame.

656
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Speaker 3: Like really, I just don't buy it, man tight Ryan Day.

657
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 3: I just don't see them repeating.

658
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Speaker 5: Does anything they do against Michigan, Let's say they go

659
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 5: beat Michigan by fifty, Does that change your opinion at all?

660
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Speaker 3: No, it doesn't, because you know Michigan, Michigan's just I

661
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 3: don't I don't very highly at all. Yeah, it's just

662
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 3: a completely average team. And I think that it would

663
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Speaker 3: impress a lot of people just because Ohio State has

664
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Speaker 3: lost four straight and it'd be like, well, now they

665
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Speaker 3: really mean business. That's like, no, they just beat sort

666
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Speaker 3: of an average, maybe sort of sucky Michigan team. You know,

667
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 3: like it wouldn't really do much for me, but I

668
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 3: think it would do a decent amount for people who

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Speaker 3: are easily impressed by Ohio State.

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Speaker 4: So what do you think? Who do you think just

671
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 4: got disrespected most in this segment? Quickly before we get

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Speaker 4: a break, obviously.

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Speaker 3: But.

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Speaker 5: Let's throw them out since we just gave them five minutes.

675
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Speaker 5: Who that we didn't just talk about at all? Like

676
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Speaker 5: there were teams we didn't even mention.

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Speaker 3: No, you know, like I you fans A and M fans,

678
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 3: So like, Hello, we're undefeated. You want to go with

679
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 3: Notre Dame? Okay, cool, Yeah, that makes sense.

680
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 2: I'm sure.

681
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, some of those fan bases would think trying to

682
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Speaker 5: figure out how A and M is undefeated after that

683
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 5: South Carolina game?

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Speaker 2: Wow? How how does.

685
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Speaker 1: Trying to figure out how Shane Biemer is still there?

686
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Speaker 2: How do they blow a game like that with that

687
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 2: big of a lead? Crazy?

688
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Speaker 3: We got to get into Bama also, because I'm curious

689
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Speaker 3: what your thoughts are on Bama. You know, the Saturday

690
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 3: show I do, man, I got a couple of co

691
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 3: hosts willing to, you know, do bodily harm to me

692
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Speaker 3: based on how I feel about Alabama. You know, it

693
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 3: is getting crazy over here in these streets, j Mart.

694
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Speaker 3: But you know, hey, whatever I thought it was a

695
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Speaker 3: thoughts on Alabama. Okay, good, good, I've come to the

696
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Speaker 3: right place. Very nice.

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Speaker 3: There is a very popular argument in favor of one

705
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Speaker 3: of my favorite teams. But it's a horrible argument. We'll

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Speaker 3: tell you about that next. He's Jason Martin. I'm Brian No.

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Speaker 3: We're in for two pros and a cup of Joe

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Speaker 3: It is Fox Sports Radio. He's Jason Martin. I'm Brian Know.

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Speaker 3: We're in for two pros and a cup of Joe

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Speaker 3: here on Fox Sports Radio, and we are live from

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Speaker 3: the Fox Sports Radio studios. I don't know if we'll

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Speaker 3: have time for it during the show, j mart but

718
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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. Our guy, Patty sweeka crushing it

719
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Speaker 3: as our producer today. His impression of Steven A. Smith

720
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 3: is so good, and his impression of Colin and Cowherd

721
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 3: is the worst impression in the history of impressions.

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Speaker 1: I've never heard either one of them.

723
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,720
Speaker 8: Oh my gosh, boy, are you in at some point

724
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Speaker 8: in Yeah, we're definitely getting in the in the show

725
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Speaker 8: today because I don't understand how one is so good

726
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Speaker 8: and the other is so bad.

727
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Speaker 2: But like the cow herd is so bad. It's hilarious

728
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Speaker 2: to me.

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Speaker 5: Man, I look like Indiana and Purdue and football kinda

730
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 5: yeah right, yeah, exactly, Yeah, Indiana's crushing it, Purdue not

731
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Speaker 5: so much.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's kind of Patty Sweeka doing impressions of various

733
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Speaker 3: talk show hosts, you know, but very funny stuff. We'll

734
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Speaker 3: get that in in the third hour. We'll definitely get

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Speaker 3: that in.

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Speaker 4: Today.

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Speaker 3: There is a very popular argument in favor of my

738
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Speaker 3: absolute favorite team in the history of teams, Jason Martin,

739
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 3: and I actually hate this argument. I think it's a

740
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 3: horrible argument. Now it is the Notre Dame fighting Irish.

741
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Speaker 3: I'm talking indie football right here from South Bend. Love

742
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 3: Notre Dame football. But you know, this knockdown drag out

743
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 3: between Notre Dame and Miami, who should be in, who

744
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 3: should be out? Back and forth type thing, the head

745
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 3: to head Miami won it. I think that should be

746
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 3: factored in a lot more heavily than the committee is

747
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 3: factoring it in. But the argument I will hear in

748
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 3: favor of Notre Dame is, well, if they met on

749
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 3: a neutral field, now Notre Dame would win, And it's like,

750
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Speaker 3: how do we know that exactly? How is that just

751
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 3: sett in stone for sure, no doubt about it? Like

752
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 3: I thought I thought Ohio State was gonna crush Michigan

753
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 3: last year.

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00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 2: They're favored by three touchdowns. They lost. Like this idea

755
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 2: that oh.

756
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 3: Neutral field, Oh yeah, Notre Dame would win. Notre Dame's

757
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 3: just better. Now, it's like, the better team doesn't always

758
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 3: win a game. So you get this straight. We're putting

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Speaker 3: a team into the playoff just because we think they

760
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 3: would win on a neutral field. Now, like, really, that

761
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 3: is the body we play the original game, right? Why

762
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Speaker 3: don't we go by actual results instead of hypotheticals like

763
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 3: this idea that it's for sure going to happen just

764
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 3: as we see it.

765
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Speaker 2: We've watched enough football to know better than that.

766
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 3: We can't rank teams higher than the other just because

767
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 3: we think of what would happen.

768
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Speaker 2: Now, that is so bad, man.

769
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Speaker 3: But I hear that all the time right now, and

770
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 3: it's in favor of my Irish, But I think it's

771
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Speaker 3: a horribly flawed and awful argument.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Like you can have fun and hypotheticals, but you

773
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 5: can't live in hypotheticals. Like, yeah, there was a game

774
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 5: that was actually played between those two teams.

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Speaker 1: That has to matter. It has to factor.

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Speaker 5: In in some way, shape or form, or else it

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Speaker 5: shouldn't have been played in the first place. It makes

778
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 5: no sense to say, well if they played now, Dude,

779
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 5: there's no trade deadline in college football. Josh Allen was

780
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 5: not acquired before the deadline to become played quarterback at

781
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Speaker 5: Notre Dame.

782
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 4: And that's not even throwing shade on their current quarterback.

783
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Speaker 1: But nothing changed about the roster.

784
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 5: Nothing changed except that Notre Dame has been crushing teams

785
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 5: ever since that point in Miami has shown some flaws.

786
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 5: Do I think that Notre Dame could beat Miami today, Yes,

787
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 5: But I also thought they could beat them in Week one.

788
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 5: That's right, Like it's it's the same exact deal, but

789
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 5: they didn't like that. That's the deal. Like, maybe they

790
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,240
Speaker 5: get another opportunity to see each other in the playoff.

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Speaker 4: I don't think so.

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Speaker 5: But unfortunately that's the way it played out. I mean,

793
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:36,919
Speaker 5: Alabama would beat Florida State, but they lost to Florida State,

794
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 5: right exactly the first game is that's just that's the

795
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,399
Speaker 5: way the game is played. That's how it played out.

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00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 5: I still think Alabama is better than Oklahoma, but they

797
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 5: lost to Oklahoma. That's just that's just kind of the

798
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 5: way it went.

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Speaker 1: Again.

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Speaker 5: I think Tennessee should have beaten Georgia earlier this season,

801
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 5: but Georgia won that game forty four to forty one, and.

802
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: That's the result. That's that's that's it.

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00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 5: That's the only metric that we have that is at

804
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 5: least semi objective, is that was a game actually played.

805
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 5: I can't live in a world of hypotheticals where it's, well,

806
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 5: since this should have happened, or since this would happen today.

807
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 5: We need to basically throw out everything that happened prior

808
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 5: and base this on paper, Like how many times is

809
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 5: the old cliche? The games are not played on paper.

810
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 5: This is why they play the games. And now you're

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Speaker 5: making an argument to the exact opposite effect.

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Speaker 3: That's right, it's a great argument laid out very well

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Speaker 3: by you.

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Speaker 2: Listen.

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Speaker 3: I think that it can make sense to consider more

816
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 3: than just head to head. Okay, if we're just talking fundamentally,

817
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 3: and if we're talking specifically about Notre Dame versus Miami,

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Speaker 3: the committee wants to consider more than just.

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Speaker 2: Head to head.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you haven't lost me completely yet. If you want

821
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Speaker 3: to talk about, hey, Notre Dame has better losses than

822
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Speaker 3: Miami does.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm listening. But it's not like it's night and day.

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Speaker 3: When the Committee says, we're not even really comparing these too,

825
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Speaker 3: because we don't even view them as equals right now,

826
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Speaker 3: It's like, wait a minute, Notre Dame has not played

827
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Speaker 3: and beaten murderer's row while Miami hasn't played a soul.

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Speaker 3: Let's not make it sound like that. That's ridiculous to me.

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Speaker 3: I don't think Notre Dame has just separated themselves from

830
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 3: Miami in terms of the quality teams they've beaten. You

831
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 3: can make an argument they've lost to better teams, but

832
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Speaker 3: at some point head to head has to factor in

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Speaker 3: more than it has. I just don't think the committee

834
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Speaker 3: is factored than in the most and I think this too,

835
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Speaker 3: Jay mart like I think Notre Dame fans they gotta

836
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 3: take the Homer test here because I always say this,

837
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Speaker 3: if your emotions are invested, you have to flip the

838
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Speaker 3: scenario completely around and see if you still have the

839
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Speaker 3: same stance. Do you still have the same opinion, because

840
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,240
Speaker 3: if you don't it shows that you're being a homer.

841
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 3: Am I to believe that Notre Dame fans if it

842
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 3: was Notre Dame with the head to head win right

843
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 3: against Miami, Miami had better losses, but they hadn't beaten

844
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Speaker 3: a ton of great teams. Should I believe that Notre

845
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 3: Dame fans would be saying, oh, yeah, it makes sense

846
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 3: even though we beat Miami, Miami should be ranked ahead

847
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Speaker 3: of us.

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Speaker 2: There's no way they would be saying that.

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Speaker 3: I think a bunch of Notre Dame fans are just

850
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 3: not being honest with themselves in this whole scenario here.

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Speaker 2: It pains me to say that, but I think that's

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Speaker 2: the truth.

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Speaker 5: So you have to be very careful that what you

854
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 5: are applying to someone else you would apply to yourself

855
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 5: is basically what you're saying right there. Yeah, and that's

856
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 5: a perfect bridge to what we're going to hit to

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Speaker 5: open hour two, And that is what if you were

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Speaker 5: Lane Kiffin, because he's getting a very interesting kind of

859
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,720
Speaker 5: mix of critique in the media and then the public

860
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 5: eye and his decisions just a couple of days away.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's get on board the Lane train. Where

863
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 3: is it headed or is it saying put