WEBVTT - SYMHC Classics: Thomas Cook 

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<v Speaker 1>Happy Saturday. Thomas Cook was born on November twenty second,

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen oh eight, or two hundred and seventeen years ago today,

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<v Speaker 1>on the day this episode is publishing. Cook founded his

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<v Speaker 1>own travel agency in the nineteenth century, and he's seen

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<v Speaker 1>as one of the founders of the package travel industry.

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<v Speaker 1>At the end of this episode, we talked about the

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<v Speaker 1>company Cook founded and what the business grew involved into,

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<v Speaker 1>and when we recorded the episode, Thomas Cook Group was

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<v Speaker 1>having some financial difficulties. Then in September of twenty nineteen,

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<v Speaker 1>it collapsed and that left roughly one hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 1>thousand travelers stranded overseas with all their bookings canceled. We

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<v Speaker 1>talked about that a little bit in an installment of Unearthed.

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<v Speaker 1>The following month, Thomas Cook Group's biggest shareholder, Folksin International,

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<v Speaker 1>purchased all the branding and all of its assets and

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<v Speaker 1>they relaunched the business as an online travel agency in

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<v Speaker 1>November of twenty nineteen, and then Polish travel technology company

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<v Speaker 1>East Sky Group acquired the business from Folsen in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four. This episode originally came out on July eighth,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nineteen. Enjoy Welcome to Stuff You missed in History Class,

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<v Speaker 1>a production of iHeartRadio. Hello and welcome to the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Holly Frye and I'm Tracy B. Wilson and Tracy.

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<v Speaker 1>We have been traveling a lot lately. I've been traveling

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<v Speaker 1>a whole bunch, and because of that, I just started thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly when we were on our trip to Paris, which

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<v Speaker 1>was booked as a package, about how package travel started. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Because like I often found myself marveling at the people

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<v Speaker 1>who managed our trips through defined destinations were just handling

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<v Speaker 1>the needs of fifty people who all had differing desires

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<v Speaker 1>and internal clocks and whatnot. As we wandered around in

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<v Speaker 1>a foreign country, and sometimes people got lost and they

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<v Speaker 1>always managed to find them and get I was just

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<v Speaker 1>I marvel at the whole concept. So that made me

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<v Speaker 1>start to think about how this whole thing began. And

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<v Speaker 1>as I dug it did not take very long to

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<v Speaker 1>find the person that most people point to and say,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the person who started it. But I was

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<v Speaker 1>surprised because the man most often referenced as the father

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<v Speaker 1>of the modern travel industry was inspired not by some

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<v Speaker 1>deep seated yearn to go out and explore the world,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was more inspired by his support of the

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<v Speaker 1>Temperance movement and has deeply held religious beliefs. So today

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<v Speaker 1>we were talking about Thomas Cook, but we were also

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<v Speaker 1>talking about his son, John Mason Cook. Modern travelers in

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<v Speaker 1>the UK in particular are probably well acquainted with the

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<v Speaker 1>Cook name is now the name of one of the

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<v Speaker 1>largest travel agencies in the world, if not the largest.

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<v Speaker 1>But their family were really pioneers of this idea of

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<v Speaker 1>a travel agency to manage tourist holidays and put together

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<v Speaker 1>packages that could be sold for all of your needs

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<v Speaker 1>to be attended to. He just buyerr one thing and

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<v Speaker 1>then it's taken care of. Yeah, it didn't start that way.

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<v Speaker 1>That happened incrementally before they got to the buyer one

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<v Speaker 1>thing idea. But really you do see the progression of

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<v Speaker 1>how this concept started and how it started to add

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<v Speaker 1>on different pieces until it became package travel. Thomas Cook

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<v Speaker 1>was born on November twenty second, eighteen o eight, in Derbyshire, England.

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<v Speaker 1>His parents, John and Elizabeth Cook were very poor, and

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<v Speaker 1>John worked as a laborer and died when Thomas was

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<v Speaker 1>just four years old. Elizabeth remarried to James Smithard not

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<v Speaker 1>long after John's death. Thomas's formal education was rather brief.

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<v Speaker 1>He attended school only until the age of ten, and

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<v Speaker 1>at that point he started working as a helper to

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<v Speaker 1>an estate gardener and he worked in that position for

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<v Speaker 1>four years, at which point he became a cabinetry apprentice

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<v Speaker 1>under his uncle John Peg. When young Thomas became an apprentice,

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<v Speaker 1>he also switched religious denominations. Up until the age of fourteen,

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas had attended a Methodist Sunday School and that was

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<v Speaker 1>intended to offer a little bit of a supplemental education

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<v Speaker 1>since he had to go to work full time to

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<v Speaker 1>help the family, and that was a common pattern. Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>schools in England during this time were intended to offer

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<v Speaker 1>children a small amount of ongoing education after they were

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<v Speaker 1>required to join the workforce. Yeah, very different I think

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<v Speaker 1>from what we might think of as Sunday school today.

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<v Speaker 1>Not as much. I mean, certainly there was religious study involved,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was also literally like sort of a standard

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<v Speaker 1>education that was getting conveyed. But though he had been

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<v Speaker 1>attending Methodist Sunday school for four years, at fourteen Thomas

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<v Speaker 1>started attending a Baptist Sunday school. John Peg his new

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<v Speaker 1>person that he was apprenticing under was a Baptist, so

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<v Speaker 1>that may have had some influence in the switch, but

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas's mother also wanted her son to change churches. It

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<v Speaker 1>appears that Thomas was very diligent in his studies at

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<v Speaker 1>this new school, and he eventually started teaching there. He

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<v Speaker 1>was eventually named it superintendent. He hadn't been baptized yet,

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<v Speaker 1>though that didn't happen until February of eighteen twenty six,

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<v Speaker 1>when he was seventeen. Yeah, that kind of ties into

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<v Speaker 1>that idea that Sunday school is not the way we

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<v Speaker 1>would think of Sunday school in like modern America, for example.

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<v Speaker 1>It really was not quite the same deal. And I

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<v Speaker 1>only know Catechism, which is different than other religions Sunday schools,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm sure I have a very different concept of

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<v Speaker 1>how the whole thing works. Cook's religious devotion eventually supplanted

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<v Speaker 1>his work in cabinetry. After five years as his uncle's apprentice,

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<v Speaker 1>he left that job behind to become a missionary, and

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<v Speaker 1>his new job consisted of traveling from town to town

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<v Speaker 1>in rural England. In each town, he would distribute literature,

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<v Speaker 1>give sermons, and set up a Sunday school there. He

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<v Speaker 1>got paid thirty six pounds annually for the job, and

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<v Speaker 1>that amount was throttled back as he started to receive

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<v Speaker 1>aid from the people that he ministered to. While traveling

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<v Speaker 1>with his work, the twenty year old Cook met a

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<v Speaker 1>young woman named mary Anne Mason, another Sunday school teacher

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<v Speaker 1>who was a year older than Thomas. Thomas and mary

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<v Speaker 1>Anne were sweethearts for four years before they got married

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<v Speaker 1>on March second, eighteen thirty three. That's another thing that

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<v Speaker 1>made me chuckle. In some of the biographical write ups

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<v Speaker 1>of him, people will talk about what a long courtship

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<v Speaker 1>that was. Where it's again in the modern era, not

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<v Speaker 1>so much. Not only did Thomas's bachelor's status change to

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<v Speaker 1>that of husband in eighteen thirty three, he also changed jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>He returned to carpentry. His job as a missionary had

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<v Speaker 1>ended because the church could no longer fund his salary,

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<v Speaker 1>so he moved with Marianne to Market Harborough and opened

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<v Speaker 1>up a shop on January thirteenth, eighteen thirty four. They

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<v Speaker 1>welcomed a son, John Mason Cook. In eighteen thirty five,

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<v Speaker 1>they had another child named Henry, but the second son

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<v Speaker 1>died while still a baby. They didn't have any more

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<v Speaker 1>children until the mid eighteen forties. When their daughter Annie

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<v Speaker 1>was born. In eighteen thirty six, the Cooks took a

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<v Speaker 1>strong stand for temperance. They felt that liquor was causing

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<v Speaker 1>all manner of social problems. This was a pretty popularly

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<v Speaker 1>circulated idea at the time, and they decided that they

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to lead by example in their own lives. So

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<v Speaker 1>they both signed a pledge of temperance, and they also

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<v Speaker 1>vowed that no one who worked for them would have

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<v Speaker 1>access to alcohol while on their property. But Thomas was

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<v Speaker 1>not content to do just that. He started really throwing

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<v Speaker 1>his time and his efforts into promoting temperance. In the

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<v Speaker 1>latter half of the eighteen thirties, Cook reached back to

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<v Speaker 1>his preaching days. At this time, he started to preach

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<v Speaker 1>the importance of temperance and the dangers of alcohol. He

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<v Speaker 1>wrote and distributed pamphlets with these same messages. He also

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<v Speaker 1>started setting up recreational events that were alcohol free. They

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<v Speaker 1>were social gatherings called rational recreation, where the activities were

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<v Speaker 1>wholesome and the hardest liquid serve was ginger beer. He

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<v Speaker 1>also founded a periodical called the Children's Temperance Magazine in

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen forty and it was Cook's temperance efforts and his

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<v Speaker 1>desire to put together activities that would offer fun and

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<v Speaker 1>socializing without alcohol that led him to start setting up

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<v Speaker 1>travel activities. In June of eighteen forty one, while he

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<v Speaker 1>was walking to a Temperance meeting in Lester, near his home,

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<v Speaker 1>he had a bolt of inspiration. He realized that developments

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<v Speaker 1>in transportation that had been part of the Industrial Revolution,

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<v Speaker 1>and in particular railroads, could be used to spread the

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<v Speaker 1>word about Temperance farther than ever before. He was walking

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<v Speaker 1>to a meeting in Leicester when he had this idea,

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<v Speaker 1>and when he got there, Cook outlined his planned the attendees.

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<v Speaker 1>He pitched the plan that they would hire a train

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<v Speaker 1>specifically to get their members to another meeting farther away

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<v Speaker 1>the next month. Everybody thought this was a great idea,

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<v Speaker 1>so he reached out to the Midland Railway to try

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<v Speaker 1>to make the arrangements and they were completely open to it.

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<v Speaker 1>So on July fifth of eighteen forty one, just a

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<v Speaker 1>month after he had his idea, Thomas led a group

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<v Speaker 1>of five hundred members of the Temperance movement on a trip.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a train ride from Leicester to Lufborough to

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<v Speaker 1>attend a meeting and a lecture there, and each attendee

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<v Speaker 1>paid a shilling for the trip that was arranged by Cook.

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<v Speaker 1>And this trip went very, very smoothly, and its success

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<v Speaker 1>led Cook to plan for more. I just want to say,

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred people is a lot of people. That is

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people. I mentioned at the top of

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<v Speaker 1>the show how I marveled at managing fifty people on

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<v Speaker 1>a trip. Five hundred seems bananas. To bolster the whole enterprise,

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<v Speaker 1>Cook wanted to be in a bigger city to have

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<v Speaker 1>greater access to travel resources. So to that end, he

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<v Speaker 1>and his family moved to Leicester. The Temperance and Baptist

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<v Speaker 1>community there was much larger, and he was also able

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<v Speaker 1>to expand his business with an id using these businesses

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<v Speaker 1>to promote temperance. He started printing temperance literature in his

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<v Speaker 1>own print shop, and he also opened a bookstore to

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<v Speaker 1>sell that literature in He also printed and sold guide

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<v Speaker 1>books and almanacs through this system, and next he opened

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<v Speaker 1>two Temperance hotels. The first in Darby was managed by

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<v Speaker 1>his mother Elizabeth, and his wife Mary Anne managed the second,

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<v Speaker 1>which was in Leicester. Coming up, we'll talk about how

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas t transition from wrangling groups of temperance supporters to

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<v Speaker 1>managing travel as a business, but first we'll pause for

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<v Speaker 1>a sponsor break. Thomas Cook had since that first rail

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<v Speaker 1>trip from Leicester to Lufborough in eighteen forty one, continued

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<v Speaker 1>to arrange trips for temperance supporters to attend meetings and

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<v Speaker 1>share their ideology throughout England. But in eighteen forty five

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<v Speaker 1>he decided to actually make a business out of it,

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<v Speaker 1>running tours for profit. He had a really good network

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<v Speaker 1>of contacts within the railways at this point, and he

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<v Speaker 1>had already made a name for himself as an efficient

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<v Speaker 1>and trustworthy organizer of group excursions, so he was starting

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<v Speaker 1>this enterprise from a very strong position. Cook's first for

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<v Speaker 1>profit itinerary went to Liverpool, with starting points for travelers

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<v Speaker 1>at Leicester, Derby and Nottingham. This included excursions to Canarvan

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<v Speaker 1>and a hike up Mount Snowden. He was conscious of

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that even on his previous temperance oriented trips,

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<v Speaker 1>for a lot of the people traveling it was a

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<v Speaker 1>really new experience, and to that end he produced a

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<v Speaker 1>handbook for the three hundred and fifty people on this

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<v Speaker 1>Liverpool tour, offering them both practical advice and encouragement to

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<v Speaker 1>abstain from drink while enjoying the journey. This handbook was

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<v Speaker 1>the first of many he assembled them for all of

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<v Speaker 1>his tours after this point. First class tickets cost fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>shillings and second class was ten shillings. Travelers could also

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<v Speaker 1>opt into a steamer cruise to North Wales for an

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<v Speaker 1>additional fee. The Liverpool Tour was a far more ambitious

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<v Speaker 1>project than any of Thomas Cook's Temperance trips had been,

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<v Speaker 1>but it went well, so well that Cook started to

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<v Speaker 1>set his sights on expanding to new destinations, and he decided,

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<v Speaker 1>after he had done some of these Liverpool trips that

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<v Speaker 1>the next excursion he wanted to offer would go to Scotland.

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<v Speaker 1>The Scotland Tour was scheduled for the summer of eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>forty six, and it was Thomas Cook's first real flop

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<v Speaker 1>since he started planning group travel. The several hundred people

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<v Speaker 1>who had booked had been told that they would be

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<v Speaker 1>able to disembark from the train they were on when

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<v Speaker 1>it made stops along the way to the coast, and

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<v Speaker 1>there they were going to board a steamer to Scotland,

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<v Speaker 1>but it turned out that train passengers were not allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to get off and on it stops. The train also

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have bathrooms and it didn't offer food service, so

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<v Speaker 1>by the time the group got to the coast they

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<v Speaker 1>were already miserable. The next leg of the trip was

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<v Speaker 1>aboard the steamer our Drassen, which was also a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Cook had booked more people than there were cabins. There

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<v Speaker 1>appears to have been a miscommunication between him and the steamer,

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<v Speaker 1>so some of the group had to hang out on

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<v Speaker 1>the deck and they got drenched in a storm that

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<v Speaker 1>came along while they made this crossing. But once the

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<v Speaker 1>group arrived in Scotland, they were warmly welcomed with marching

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<v Speaker 1>bands and other fanfare, and from that point it seems

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<v Speaker 1>to have gone okay. Reviews of this tour were unsurprisingly unkind.

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<v Speaker 1>Part of the criticism was Thomas Cook's unrelenting devotion to temperance,

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<v Speaker 1>which he preached to all his tour groups. This summer

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<v Speaker 1>of problems caused a temporary halt to Cook's travel business.

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<v Speaker 1>He was also seeing new competitors emerge in the publishing market,

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<v Speaker 1>some of whom were printing books and pamphlets on Temperance

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Yeah, so he had kind of planned on

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<v Speaker 1>this travel thing going well, and it started well and

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<v Speaker 1>then wasn't. And then this other area of the market

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<v Speaker 1>that he had cornered with suddenly having some competitors and

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<v Speaker 1>he just kind of needed to regroup. So he slowly

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<v Speaker 1>rebuilt his business over the next couple of years, and

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<v Speaker 1>in eighteen forty eight he was once again up and

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<v Speaker 1>running with his tours, publishing and his Temperance hotels. For

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<v Speaker 1>the next couple of years. After that, he launched successful

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<v Speaker 1>tours to Scotland and Ireland, and then a new opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>presented itself to Cook in the form of the Great

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<v Speaker 1>Exposition of eighteen fifty one, which has made numerous appearances

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<v Speaker 1>on the podcast over the years. Cook booked travel arrangements

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<v Speaker 1>for more than one hundred and fifty thousand people to

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<v Speaker 1>go to the Great Exposition. To bolster his travel business,

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<v Speaker 1>he also started publishing the periodical slash Travel catalog Cook's

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<v Speaker 1>Exhibition Harold an Excursion Advertiser. This effort to create Exposition

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<v Speaker 1>tours was incidentally made at the urging of previous podcast

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<v Speaker 1>subject and Crystal Palace architect Sir Joseph Paxton, who hoped

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<v Speaker 1>that Cook would make it possible for the workers outside

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<v Speaker 1>of London to see the hall. Paxton remained a supporter

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<v Speaker 1>of Cook's work long after the Exposition, and Cook's Exhibition

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<v Speaker 1>Harold was later published under the name Cook's Excursionist. And

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<v Speaker 1>after the Great Expo, Thomas Cook built his offerings up

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<v Speaker 1>to meet new levels of demand because he had become

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<v Speaker 1>very well known while planning all of those trips, he

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<v Speaker 1>started offering an assortment of trips that travelers could choose

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<v Speaker 1>from throughout England, Ireland, Wales and Scotland. These were not,

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<v Speaker 1>we should note, all inclusive tours. Cook's agency booked travel

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<v Speaker 1>and outlined itineraries and provided guide books, but tourists were

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<v Speaker 1>responsible for booking their own lodging and getting their own food.

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<v Speaker 1>His travel business grew, Thomas Cook ceased operation of his

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<v Speaker 1>printing efforts so that he could focus more on tourism.

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<v Speaker 1>He still printed guidebooks, but he wasn't running his own

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<v Speaker 1>print shop. After a decade of growth and expansion within

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<v Speaker 1>his established roots, Cook expanded his offerings to a wider

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<v Speaker 1>range of destinations on the European continent. This was in

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<v Speaker 1>part because his tours in Scotland ran into a problem,

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<v Speaker 1>which is that the rail companies in Scotland stopped offering

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<v Speaker 1>him discounted group rates for the trains and so to

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<v Speaker 1>expand into this new phase of business, Cooked did two things. First,

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<v Speaker 1>he opened another office in London. Similar to the reasons

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<v Speaker 1>that he moved to Leicester. This shift to London offered

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<v Speaker 1>greater resources and more access to a wider clientele. And second,

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<v Speaker 1>he started creating more comprehensive bookings, ones that did include

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<v Speaker 1>lodging and meals as well as railroad travel and channel crossings.

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<v Speaker 1>In eighteen fifty five, Thomas Cook mounted his first European

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<v Speaker 1>continental tour to coincide with another exposition, this time the

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<v Speaker 1>Exposition on Uniforseel in Paris. This trip hit a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of other spots before landing at the expo, though from England,

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<v Speaker 1>the group traveled to Antwerp, Brussels, Cologne, Heidelberg and Strasbourg

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<v Speaker 1>before finishing in Paris. In addition to booking the trip

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<v Speaker 1>as a comprehensive package, he also offered a currency exchange

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<v Speaker 1>service to his travelers. Yeah at this point he was

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<v Speaker 1>offering literally like full service travel by the fall of

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen sixty three, Cook had booked traveled to Switzerland for

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<v Speaker 1>an estimated five hundred tourists and to France for about

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand. The rapid growth of his expanded offerings led

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<v Speaker 1>to Cook being nicknamed the Napoleon of excursions, and before

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<v Speaker 1>long a Cook's tour became synonymous with guided tourist experiences.

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<v Speaker 1>In eighteen sixty five, the business shifted once again, this

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<v Speaker 1>time because Cook's son, John Mason Cook, started working for

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<v Speaker 1>the firm full time. Over the next six years, John

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<v Speaker 1>helped his father expand the company significantly, so that by

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen seventy one there were three offices for the firm

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<v Speaker 1>in England, each with full staff. John was made partner

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<v Speaker 1>that year and the firm became Thomas Cook and Son.

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<v Speaker 1>John had been highly instrumental in getting Cook's company into

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<v Speaker 1>booking travel across the Atlantic, and he had streamlined the

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<v Speaker 1>way the business rans make everything more efficient, but even

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<v Speaker 1>so John had been really reluctant to step into the

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<v Speaker 1>role of partner. After the popularity of Thomas Cook and

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<v Speaker 1>Son's offering for travel to France and Switzerland, the firm

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<v Speaker 1>started offering tours to Italy as well. As we mentioned,

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<v Speaker 1>John helped get it across the Atlantic, so a United

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<v Speaker 1>States itinerary was soon made available, and then they offered

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<v Speaker 1>trips to Egypt and Israel. And as Cook's travel agency

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<v Speaker 1>entered the eighteen seventies, he was as always thinking bigger

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of where he could go. The advertisements for

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<v Speaker 1>the company at this point read a Cook's Ticket brings

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<v Speaker 1>the World to you, and Thomas Cook seemed really intent

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<v Speaker 1>on delivering on that promise. It was this attitude that

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<v Speaker 1>led him to offer the first ever Round the World

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<v Speaker 1>tourist itinerary. It was ambitious, but Cook was driven by

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<v Speaker 1>his religious faith just as much as any business ambition.

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<v Speaker 1>He wanted to continue to share his religious views and

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<v Speaker 1>show people the world simultaneously, believing that in doing so

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<v Speaker 1>he would help promote global peace. To that end, he

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<v Speaker 1>traveled along with his clients on the company's first Round

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<v Speaker 1>the World excursion, which ran from eighteen seventy two to

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen seventy three. It took two hundred and twenty two days,

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<v Speaker 1>and his being there was possible in part because he

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<v Speaker 1>had John to manage the offices back home. But despite

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<v Speaker 1>trusting John to handle a lot of the business, Thomas

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<v Speaker 1>and his son had problems, and we are going to

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<v Speaker 1>get into that after we take a break and hear

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<v Speaker 1>from one of the sponsors. To keep stuff you missed

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<v Speaker 1>in history class going. Thomas and John Cook did not

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<v Speaker 1>always agree on how their business should run, even though

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<v Speaker 1>John was made a partner, and this ultimately caused serious

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<v Speaker 1>problems there. I read some historians that suggest said that

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<v Speaker 1>the two of them had such different approaches that they

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<v Speaker 1>would have been terribly complimentary if it weren't for the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that they were continuously butting heads. So while Thomas

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<v Speaker 1>was shepherding that First World Tour, for example, John settled

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<v Speaker 1>the firm's main offices into a new, fancier and more

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<v Speaker 1>expensive location. When Thomas returned, the travel agency started a

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<v Speaker 1>business partnership with an American partner, and that turned disastrous.

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<v Speaker 1>The idea was that combining their efforts with a business

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<v Speaker 1>interest on the other side of the Atlantic was going

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<v Speaker 1>to bolster travel bookings from North America to Europe and

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<v Speaker 1>vice versa, but that did not work out. Over the

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<v Speaker 1>next several years, Thomas and John were increasingly at odds,

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<v Speaker 1>and the US partnership fell apart, which added even more

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<v Speaker 1>strain into the relationship. Even as they successfully moved on

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<v Speaker 1>to new ventures, including offering cruises, they didn't seem to

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<v Speaker 1>celebrate as much as they seemed to argue, and the

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<v Speaker 1>main issue between them was that they just felt completely

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<v Speaker 1>differently as I said, about how their business should run.

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas had always dreamed big and terms of trips, but

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't especially concerned with turning huge profits as long

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<v Speaker 1>as they were making some profit. He basically seemed to

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<v Speaker 1>just want enough to provide for his family and then

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<v Speaker 1>donate pretty generously to the various charities that he supported. John,

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<v Speaker 1>on the other hand, envisioned much grander things. He really

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<v Speaker 1>believed that they could be much more financially lucrative, and

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<v Speaker 1>he thought that his father's approach to business was too

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<v Speaker 1>soft and inefficient, and that his father was a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a billy dreamer. Additionally, John wanted Thomas to

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<v Speaker 1>keep his religious and temperance views out of their tours

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<v Speaker 1>and maintain those interests as personal matters, not business. This

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<v Speaker 1>strife between Thomas and John wasn't exactly new. It had

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<v Speaker 1>basically been there ever since John was young. There was

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<v Speaker 1>a time, as a very young man, just out of school,

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<v Speaker 1>when John had worked in Thomas's print shop and had

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<v Speaker 1>worked on some of the tours, but the two of

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<v Speaker 1>them had butted heads so often that John left to

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<v Speaker 1>work for a railway company. Even when John returned to

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<v Speaker 1>work for his father in eighteen sixty five, it had

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<v Speaker 1>been because he had a wife and a child to support,

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<v Speaker 1>not because the two of them actually wanted to work together.

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<v Speaker 1>Things eventually came to a head in eighteen seventy eight

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<v Speaker 1>and father and son had a massive fight. The end result,

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<v Speaker 1>although we don't have details on how exactly this decision

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<v Speaker 1>was reached, was that Thomas removed himself from the business entirely.

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<v Speaker 1>He moved full time back to Leicester, where he had

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<v Speaker 1>built a large house, and he just let John run

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<v Speaker 1>things as he wished, But their relationship was damaged beyond repair.

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<v Speaker 1>As the firm was transitioning in leadership from father to son,

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<v Speaker 1>John established a new department at the firm, foreign Banking

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<v Speaker 1>and Money Exchange, and then through this division, the company

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<v Speaker 1>started issuing credit notes for travelers, which evolved into travelers checks.

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<v Speaker 1>It was proved to be a very lucrative enterprise that

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<v Speaker 1>makes travelers checks older than I imagined. Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>they were first calling them circular checks, and yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>eventually set this up again. John, I mean was very

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<v Speaker 1>smart about business, and his father was very smart about

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<v Speaker 1>putting together compelling tours. And if they could just have

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<v Speaker 1>lived in harmony, they probably could have done even more

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<v Speaker 1>amazing things than they did. John also started selecting new

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<v Speaker 1>destinations for the firm, including India, New Zealand and Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>The New Zealand and Australian tours made plenty of money,

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<v Speaker 1>India not so much. John also negotiated government contracts for

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas Cook and Son. So when England sent a force

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<v Speaker 1>to relieve Major General Charles George Gordon, who had become

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<v Speaker 1>embroiled in a conflict with the Mahdi of Soudan in

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<v Speaker 1>the city of Khartoum against the government's wishes, that trip

0:22:41.200 --> 0:22:44.840
<v Speaker 1>was managed by Thomas Cook and Son. Incidentally, that relief

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<v Speaker 1>effort arrived too late, Gordon's stronghold had fallen and he

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<v Speaker 1>had already been killed. That is a whole other potential

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<v Speaker 1>podcast episode. Under John Mason Cook, the firm also transported

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<v Speaker 1>Indian Royalty to London to celebrate the Queen's to Jubileese

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<v Speaker 1>and what seemed to initially like a move his father

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<v Speaker 1>would have made. John also assisted in the transport of

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<v Speaker 1>Muslim pilgrims to Mecca. Eventually, though, even though this was

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<v Speaker 1>part of a mission initialized by the British Government's India Office,

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<v Speaker 1>Cook's faars were too high that deal ended. Thomas and

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<v Speaker 1>his wife Marianne lived in his retirement, during which he

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<v Speaker 1>was getting a pension from his son, with their daughter Annie,

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<v Speaker 1>who had never married, and two years after they moved

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<v Speaker 1>into the house that was called Thorncroft. That was that

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<v Speaker 1>large house that Thomas had built in Leicester. There was

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<v Speaker 1>a tragic loss when Annie died in her bathtub. The

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<v Speaker 1>gas fumes from a new heater were determined to have

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<v Speaker 1>been the cause, and Thomas's wife Marianne died four years

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<v Speaker 1>later in eighteen eighty four. Thomas Cook continued his life

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<v Speaker 1>quietly outside of the company. He continued to travel and

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<v Speaker 1>to work with the church and in the Temperance movement.

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<v Speaker 1>He did eventually lose his sight. In eighteen ninety one,

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas Cook and sons celebrated the company's silver jubilee. Thomas

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<v Speaker 1>did not attend, although it is unknown whether that was

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<v Speaker 1>his choice, perhaps because his health was not great or

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<v Speaker 1>because his son did not want him there. The firm

0:24:05.760 --> 0:24:09.360
<v Speaker 1>celebrated their immense success without their founder. At that point,

0:24:09.440 --> 0:24:11.920
<v Speaker 1>the company had eighty four offices and more than twenty

0:24:11.920 --> 0:24:14.560
<v Speaker 1>five hundred employees, and the next in line to run

0:24:14.600 --> 0:24:17.520
<v Speaker 1>things were John's three sons. Although John continued to head

0:24:17.560 --> 0:24:20.000
<v Speaker 1>things up for a while, and he even expanded the

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<v Speaker 1>company once again to include a fleet of steamers that

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<v Speaker 1>offered Nile River cruises. John did make a move that

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<v Speaker 1>seemed a little bit more like something his father would

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<v Speaker 1>have done when he paid for a hospital to be

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<v Speaker 1>built in Egypt. The year after the company's celebration, Thomas died.

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<v Speaker 1>That was on July eighteenth, eighteen ninety two. He had

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<v Speaker 1>had a stroke. He was buried in Leicester on July

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<v Speaker 1>twenty second. As obituary in The Times referred to him

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<v Speaker 1>and John as the Julius and Augustus Caesar of travel.

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas's will was at odds with his existing worth. At

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<v Speaker 1>the time of his death, his estate was worth roughly

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five hundred pounds, but the amount that he bequeathed

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<v Speaker 1>in his will was four two hundred twenty five pounds,

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<v Speaker 1>which has left some history. Ourian's puzzling over what exactly

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<v Speaker 1>happened to the great fortune that he had made. And

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<v Speaker 1>while he was very generous throughout his life, believing that

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<v Speaker 1>it was his duty as a religious man to help

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<v Speaker 1>others in need. For example, he had arranged everything from

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<v Speaker 1>soup kitchens to the building of cottages for the poor

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<v Speaker 1>over the years, there is still a lot of puzzling

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<v Speaker 1>over how exactly he ended up with so little. John

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even break stride in terms of business. After his

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<v Speaker 1>father died. He had become very much a social climber,

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<v Speaker 1>and whenever any royalty books travel with the firm, he

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<v Speaker 1>personally escorted them during their journey. When the first modern

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<v Speaker 1>Olympic Games took place in Athens in eighteen ninety six,

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<v Speaker 1>John made sure that the Cook firm was their travel partner.

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<v Speaker 1>In eighteen ninety eight, while escorting Kaiservillehelm the Second on

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<v Speaker 1>a trip to the Holy Land, John Cook became ill,

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<v Speaker 1>most likely with dysentery, and though John returned home, he

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<v Speaker 1>continued to be unwell for several months leading up to

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<v Speaker 1>his death on March sixth, eighteen ninety nine. John's son's Frank,

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<v Speaker 1>Earnest and Burt took over the travel agency in its

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<v Speaker 1>many offices, and the company continued to flourish. They kept

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<v Speaker 1>printing The Excursionist, although the name was changed to Traveler's Gazette,

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<v Speaker 1>and in nineteen nineteen they became the first UK travel

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<v Speaker 1>agent to offer air bookings. Thomas Cook's grandsons sold the

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<v Speaker 1>business in nineteen twenty eight to a Belgian firm for

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<v Speaker 1>three point five million pounds, and the firm that Cook

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<v Speaker 1>started still exists under the name Thomas Cook, although in

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<v Speaker 1>recent times it has had some struggles. In May of

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<v Speaker 1>this year, which is twenty nineteen, the Guardian reported that

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<v Speaker 1>the company lost one point five billion euros due to

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<v Speaker 1>Brexit uncertainty. People were canceling trips because they didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>what was going to happen next. And then a few

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<v Speaker 1>weeks later reports hitting the news that Fossen International, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the Chinese conglomerate that owns Club Med was interested in

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<v Speaker 1>purchasing the company, and the company was talking with them still.

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<v Speaker 1>A June eighteenth article in Travel Weekly announced plans for

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<v Speaker 1>the Thomas Cook Company to open two new hotels in Egypt,

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<v Speaker 1>and the day before we recorded this, but a little

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<v Speaker 1>while before you will hear it, they announced their move

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<v Speaker 1>of their digital marketing office to Manchester from London, and

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<v Speaker 1>new efforts to market their airline division. So regardless of

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<v Speaker 1>what happens next to the company that bears his name,

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<v Speaker 1>it was really Thomas Cook that set the stage for

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<v Speaker 1>the industry of tourism as we know it today. Whenever

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<v Speaker 1>he selected a destination as an offering, it became a

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<v Speaker 1>standard vacation spot for his clients. And this way he

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<v Speaker 1>planted the seeds of this industry which now drives the

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<v Speaker 1>economies of many countries and many individual places within countries. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really fascinating to think about. Like he would basically say,

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<v Speaker 1>like I think we should start going to Switzerland, and

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<v Speaker 1>people would start going to Switzerland, and then towns that

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<v Speaker 1>he went to in Switzerland would be like, we have

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<v Speaker 1>a booming tourist economy, we should court tourism, and like

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<v Speaker 1>that cycle would happen over and over and over and

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<v Speaker 1>in many ways, he really ended up kind of shifting

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<v Speaker 1>the way that various areas managed their economics because that, again,

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<v Speaker 1>tourism is a big business. Thanks so much for joining

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