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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics,

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Speaker 1: where we discussed the top political headlines with some of

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Speaker 1: today's best minds, and the Treasury unveiled fresh photos of

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump's one dollar coin. We have such a great

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Speaker 1: show for you today. Notice his own Evan McMorris. Santro

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Speaker 1: stops by to talk about Trump needing nearly ninety billion

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Speaker 1: dollars more money for his foreign more adventures. Then we'll

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Speaker 1: talk to doctor Annie Andrews about her run first Senate

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Speaker 1: in the state of South Carolina.

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Speaker 2: But first the news, Smiley, It's a rare day in

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Speaker 2: America where we have confirmation hearings of two of Trump's

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Speaker 2: biggest sick of fits. And you know, we usually you

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Speaker 2: get one at a time, but you know, in the

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Speaker 2: Trump world, you get flooded with news every day. So

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Speaker 2: we have to have two incompetent morons show their incompetence

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Speaker 1: Okay, so there are two different hearings. There's Jacoy, who

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Speaker 1: will take the Bill Poulty position if he gets confirmed.

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Speaker 1: This is an incredible bit of Trumpism here. Trump puts

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Speaker 1: Bill Poulty into a job that he is absolutely not

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Speaker 1: qualified for in any stretch. The imagination. He is right

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Speaker 1: now our nation's top spy. Bill Poulty. You'll remember him

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Speaker 1: as being a housing executive with absolutely no experience with

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Speaker 1: anything except he was like a Twitter trill. And that's

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Speaker 1: how Donald Trump got to know him. He is the

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Speaker 1: guy who found mortgage fraud. Conveniently, whenever the President had

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Speaker 1: an enemy, he could go to Bill Poulty, and Bill

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Speaker 1: Poulty would find mortgage fraud in the vein of somebody

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Speaker 1: or maybe just not making that disclosure in a way

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Speaker 1: is where we are, So what's the story here, Jake Clayton,

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Speaker 1: he is being interviewed, dude. He is testifying right now

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Speaker 1: the senators. The other half of the senators are interviewing

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Speaker 1: Todd Blanche. Todd Blanche is up for age. He is

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Speaker 1: attorney general. But he is very much a Trump Sicka fan.

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Speaker 1: Some of the things that are happening. I just want

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Speaker 1: to like go through what we've seen in these hearings

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Speaker 1: for a minute. We've had a lot of sort of

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Speaker 1: Democrats trying to get you know, one of the things

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Speaker 1: that were A couple of Republicans pushed Blanche on his

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Speaker 1: refusal to write put anything in writing that his weaponization

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Speaker 1: we're going to go to people who had felt they

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Speaker 1: A couple of Republicans pushed him on that. Then we

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Speaker 1: had also Todd Blanche say that we don't have you know,

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Speaker 1: he said to Kennedy, who was a Republican other than himself,

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Speaker 1: who do you think mister Epstein traffic young women too?

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Speaker 1: Blant says, we don't have evidence of other men. That

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Speaker 1: is demonstrably not true. And there's all sorts of other

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Speaker 3: Pretty remarkable stuff there, and yeah, it really is. What

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Speaker 3: we're seeing there is that they really are keep doing

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Speaker 1: Right, well, I'm shocked to see gambling in this casino.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 3: So interestingly, one of the most egregious things from our

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Speaker 3: previous election was when Elon Musk was giving away one

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Speaker 3: million dollar checks to people for them voting. Well, it's

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Speaker 3: looking like we're getting closer and closer to having him

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Speaker 1: This is one of the insane things that the richest

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Speaker 1: broke the law by giving voters one million dollars or

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Speaker 1: Wisconsin Board said, so you'll remember that while he was

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Speaker 1: law against election bribery prosecutors have forty days to report

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Speaker 1: his money on environment. I mean, it's just insane. He

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Speaker 3: They're pretending to be woke on the environment as.

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Speaker 1: I right, pretending to be woke on the environment. Will

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Speaker 1: Wisconsin go after him for bribery charges? I mean again,

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Speaker 1: Ken Paxton in Texas would go after George Soros if

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Speaker 1: he were writing checks to people for a million dollars?

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Speaker 3: I think Ken Paxton would also go after his wife,

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Speaker 3: by the behavior is exposed lately for Angela.

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Speaker 1: Yes he might. I mean yeah, so Ken Baxton now

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Speaker 1: We'll see what happens in Wisconsin.

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Speaker 3: Well, let's talk about some other bribery. FCC officials took

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Speaker 3: pricey gifts from Paramount as the company needed approval for

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Speaker 3: billion dollar deals. This is a great report from Pro Publica,

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Speaker 3: and it's exactly what you figured was going on as usual, of.

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Speaker 1: Course, so Paramount, you'll remember Paramount, that was a deal

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Speaker 1: that Summer Redstone's daughter Sherry Redstone put together and involved

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Speaker 1: also canceling the Colbert Show. The report highlights expensive gift. Okay,

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Speaker 1: despite regulating broadcast media, FCC commissioners have accepted pricey gifts

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Speaker 1: Now Paramount conflicts of interest experts say by accepting the gifts,

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Speaker 1: FCC commissioners are compromising the agents of partiality. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: how they're compromising it, and not by Donald Trump telling

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Speaker 1: them what to do. So they took tickets. Brendan Carr

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Speaker 1: there's this seems like small potatoes for this crew, but

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Speaker 1: Brendan Carr was got to hang out with Sylvester Stallone,

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Speaker 1: Kiss and Gloria Gain or all of them should be

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Speaker 1: ashamed of themselves for being a part of any of this,

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Speaker 1: And we got Walshop here saying there's no way that

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Speaker 1: a regulated company. Yes, you got it, folks, that is

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Speaker 3: Some of some would say that people are already auditioning

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Speaker 1: My feeling is that Scott Jennings will be okay.

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Speaker 3: In more corruption news, a South Korean company paid Trump

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Speaker 3: two million dollars. I mean during a trade investigation. After

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Speaker 3: looking at how Techi the Trump towers were in Soul

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Speaker 3: how bad he blemished their city.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, he got two million dollars trade investigations. By

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Speaker 1: the way, all this stuff is like, if this stuff

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Speaker 1: But a payment from Basco Ltd was part of a

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Speaker 1: letter of intent and a non refundable development fee, according

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Speaker 1: to the president's latest financial disclosure. The New York Times

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Speaker 1: report of this transaction. By the way, people may have

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Speaker 1: complaints about The New York Times, and I understand that,

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Speaker 1: but like between Pro Publica, if we did not have

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Speaker 1: mcmo of Santorro is a reporter of Notice at Nice

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Speaker 1: to see you, Nice to see you. Here's what's going on.

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Speaker 1: The war in Iran is over and America has one lost,

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Speaker 1: except the ceasefire is over. And also Republicans are gonna

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Speaker 1: need ninety billion dollars. Push for ninety billion. That's what

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Speaker 1: the headline says. Ninety billion dollars for the Iran war

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Speaker 4: This is this. We've been on a part in this

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Speaker 4: that has largely not been super well greeted with by voters.

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Speaker 4: Either has to be done without Democratic votes, it has

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Speaker 4: And you saw members of the Budget Committee, some of

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Speaker 4: spent in a war that Americans don't like. And then

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Speaker 4: tough scenario politically for the White House and for the

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Speaker 1: Yes, so they need ninety billion dollars. So Lindsey Graham died,

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Speaker 1: but his sister has quickly been sworn in. She is

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Speaker 1: the senator replacing him until his term is up. She

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Speaker 1: so that vote is back. But they have McConnell who's out.

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Speaker 4: on that movement. But in the end, these Democrats have

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Speaker 4: got to quickly decide on a candidate who can turn

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Speaker 4: immediately towards running against Using Collins, right like, right like,

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Speaker 4: they have lost weeks and weeks of general election campaign

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Speaker 4: at this point, and they have to and they don't

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Speaker 4: have any time sort of stitch themselves back together. And

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Speaker 4: this is this is a moment where it depends on

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Speaker 4: who emerges from this. But there really is a huge

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Speaker 4: challenge for them in terms of can they pick somebody,

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Speaker 4: and both sides say, okay, we'll find it out another day,

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Speaker 4: but we're getting behind this person. It's it's just not clear.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the goal is to avoid sort of moving someone

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Speaker 1: in there and main voters to feel that they didn't

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Speaker 1: get their choice. Main voters are really interesting because I

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Speaker 1: feel like they are really angry, they really want a progressive.

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Speaker 1: There are a lot of really good progressive main candidates

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Speaker 1: who were in the gouvenatorial. Now, maybe they were in

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Speaker 1: the gouvernatorial because they felt that they couldn't get in

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Speaker 1: the Senate race, or maybe they were in there because

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Speaker 1: they thought that they would that Susan Collins was hard

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Speaker 1: to be either way, it does seem as if one

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Speaker 1: of those people could theoretically get in there.

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Speaker 4: And it's a tough scenario. It's a tough scenario because

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Speaker 4: you do have these people, a lot of them who

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Speaker 4: ran and lost, right, I mean, they lost the gubernatorial primary,

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Speaker 4: and now the idea is why I lost that one

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Speaker 4: that primary race, but you should bring me in and

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Speaker 4: I'll win the general election. It really is a challenge

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Speaker 4: of you know which Democrats have all seen this, so

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Speaker 4: they all see this in twenty twenty four when they

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Speaker 4: paraty had to pick a new candidate, everybody to get

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Speaker 4: behind that candidate try to beat Donald Trump did not.

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Speaker 1: But they didn't have a primary process twenty twenty.

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Speaker 4: This is an attempt, I think, to do something a

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Speaker 4: little bit different from that, right, is that this does

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Speaker 4: end in a kind of smoke filled room situation in

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Speaker 4: the sense that party members are going to be making

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Speaker 4: the choice. It will not be a state wide primary

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Speaker 4: with an election in a vote. It's going to be

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Speaker 4: some kind of convention. People who are already in the

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Speaker 4: party system are going to make this choice. So you,

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Speaker 4: as a general election voter, are kind of going to

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Speaker 4: be presented with a person. And as you mentioned, there

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Speaker 4: are a lot of folks who are in boost their

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Speaker 4: name idea over the past year. They were because they're

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Speaker 4: running in a gubernatorial race. People know who they are.

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Speaker 4: But it will not be like the Platner thing. Was

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Speaker 4: this amazing ground that he got behind that really just

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Speaker 4: defeated the you know, visiting governor by this huge amount.

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Speaker 4: I mean she left the race early. That's how powerful

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Speaker 4: and big his campaign was. And so can they catch

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Speaker 4: some of that energy which I think they were hoping

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Speaker 4: to ride through the general election, or if people are

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Speaker 4: going to be upset and walk away from this, and

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Speaker 4: also are they going to become to, you know, twenty

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Speaker 4: fingers at each other. I really don't know. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I think it's a very very challenging race. And I

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Speaker 4: think that right now, if you're choosing Collins, you're feeling

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Speaker 4: pretty great about everything.

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Speaker 1: Do you think though the Platner was at a point

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Speaker 1: after those last set of allegations where he was having

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Speaker 1: trouble raising money and it looked as if he was

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Speaker 1: in trouble.

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Speaker 4: Look, I think the problem with the Platner thing is

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Speaker 4: this whole election, if you ask me, is a problem

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Speaker 4: with national people coming in and you know, putting their

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Speaker 4: fingers into a primary. You mentioned to you didn't have

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Speaker 4: an open primary. You had the DSCC come in and

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Speaker 4: kind of clear the field for Janet Mills, who obviously

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Speaker 4: did not catch fire. I mean jered campaign did not

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Speaker 4: really get off the ground, and then you had a

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Speaker 4: bunch of national progressive strategists come in and sort of

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Speaker 4: pluck this guy Platner out. And despite people saying I'm

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Speaker 4: not sure about this guy. I don't know what's going

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Speaker 4: on with this guy. You know, there was a lot

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Speaker 4: of red flags and stuff. They sort of turned the

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Speaker 4: sort of national progressive machinery around, pushing him forward and

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Speaker 4: pushing away anybody who had anything bad to say about him.

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Speaker 4: And now both of those groups are sort of left,

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Speaker 4: like I said, with sorde egg on their face and

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Speaker 4: don't really know, like what role should they play now?

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Speaker 4: I mean, should you listen when Bernie comes in and says,

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Speaker 4: this is the guy that you want to have, this

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Speaker 4: is the great guy. Should you listen when Chuck Schumer

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Speaker 4: comes in and says this is the guy that you want.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's a very unclear as to what voters

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Speaker 4: are to make of this in the end. And I

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Speaker 4: don't know. I mean, like I genuinely don't know. I

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Speaker 4: think that Platner clearly picked up and kicked up a

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Speaker 4: real progressive groundswell, Like people are really really into this guy.

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Speaker 4: They showed up in huge numbers. They liked what you

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Speaker 4: were talking about. And he was very strong on things

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Speaker 4: like Israel, things like you know, medicare for all, all

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Speaker 4: these kinds of things that some other Democrats have been

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Speaker 4: wary of doing, especially in like a place like Maine

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Speaker 4: that swings around. He was very strong on that stuff,

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Speaker 4: and I think that folks who are arguing the next

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Speaker 4: candidate for Maine should also be strong on that stuff.

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Speaker 4: They had, they definitely have a leg to stand on.

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Speaker 4: But people who were like, well, maybe we should get

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Speaker 4: somebody who we know thoroughly is vetted and that's all

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Speaker 4: the experience, and we know all this stuff about them,

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Speaker 4: and they're they're not going to make any real you know,

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Speaker 4: they're not going to make any big controversial statements. You know,

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Speaker 4: maybe they're everybody's tattoos have been checked whatever. That is

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Speaker 4: also an argument that could be made. And then the

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Speaker 4: question is can these two sides who really hated each

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Speaker 4: other in Maine, they really hated each other, can they

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Speaker 4: come back together? I don't know, I don't Evan, will

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Speaker 4: you come back? Of course? Yeah? I mean, look, let's

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Speaker 4: come back, let's talk about NA and more. Why not.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Annie Andrews is a pediatrician and the Democratic nominee

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Speaker 1: for Senate in the Great State of South Carolina. Welcome, welcome,

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Speaker 1: doctor Annie.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: So you're running for the Senate in the Great State

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Speaker 1: of South Carolina. It is a red state, but you're

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Speaker 1: running for the Lindsay Graham Senate seat, and I would

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Speaker 1: love you to talk about why you think South Carolina

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Speaker 1: it is a possible flip for Democrats.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, thank you.

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Speaker 7: I've been in this race for over a year and

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Speaker 7: we've been building a statewide grassroots, people powered movement.

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Speaker 6: We've raised nearly eleven million dollars.

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Speaker 7: We have two thousand volunteers in every county, all forty

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Speaker 7: six counties. Before the events of the weekend when Lindsay

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Speaker 7: Graham passed, we had a poll that showed me in

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Speaker 7: a statistic tie with him. So you know, there's a

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Speaker 7: very real path for a Democrat to win this US

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Speaker 7: Senate seat, and that remains true this week You know,

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Speaker 7: historically speaking, open seats are even more in play than

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Speaker 7: seats held by powerful incumbents like Lindsey Graham. And importantly,

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Speaker 7: I think you know, the problem South Carolinians are facing

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Speaker 7: didn't change over the weekend, So you know, I think

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Speaker 7: this is going to be an incredibly competitive race. I

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Speaker 7: won't know who my Republican opponent is until probably the

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Speaker 7: end of August, so quite uncharted territory here, but we

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Speaker 7: are ready for this moment.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would love you to talk about South Carolina

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Speaker 1: and what is facing South Carolinians because we are in

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Speaker 1: sort of uncharted waters at this moment with during Trump America.

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Speaker 1: So talk us through what the sort of unique challenges

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Speaker 1: that South Carolinians are facing.

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Speaker 7: We're facing a lot of the same problems that states

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Speaker 7: all across the country are facing. They are intensified because

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Speaker 7: we have a Republican supermajority in the state House. First

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Speaker 7: and foremost, we are facing the negative consequences of living

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Speaker 7: in a broken healthcare system America. You know, South Carolina

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Speaker 7: never expanded Medicaid. We have fifteen counties without an OBGYN

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Speaker 7: because of the impending Medicaid budget cuts that the Republicans

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Speaker 7: Senate and Donald Trump then signed into law. Because of

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Speaker 7: those impending Medicaid budget cuts, there are royal hospitals across

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Speaker 7: the state that are at risk of closing. They're federally

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Speaker 7: qualified health centers that have closed. Folks are struggling to

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Speaker 7: pay their medical bills, pay for their prescription drugs, and

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Speaker 7: all of those problems didn't change over the weekend. I

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Speaker 7: am a pediatrician. I've been working in children's hospitals my

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Speaker 7: entire twenty year career, so I've seen up close and

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Speaker 7: personal the impacts of this broken healthcare system on South

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Speaker 7: Carolina patients and their families, and I'm laser focused on

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Speaker 7: fixing that.

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Speaker 6: When I get to Washington, DC, and.

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Speaker 7: Like everyone all across the country, they're also facing an

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Speaker 7: affordability whether it's gas prices, grocery prices, prescription drug prices,

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Speaker 7: housing prices, childcare prices, and they're watching as this broken

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Speaker 7: machine in Washington, d C. Fails to do anything to

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Speaker 7: solve these problems. Which is why our campaign was breaking

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Speaker 7: through before this weekend. Why people are ready for something different,

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Speaker 7: not a career politician, and just ready for someone who

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Speaker 7: will fight in Washington, d C on behalf of South Carolinians.

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Speaker 1: South Carolina has, in fact elected Democrats in statewide office.

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Speaker 1: Talk to us about that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, South Carolina wasn't always so deeply read

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Speaker 7: as it is described today. I think it's important to

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Speaker 7: think back about twenty twenty. When people hear that I'm

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Speaker 7: running for this Senate seat, they think, well, what about

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Speaker 7: the Jamie Harrison race.

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Speaker 6: He raised all that money, but he still lost. He

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Speaker 6: did lose.

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Speaker 7: By ten points, but that was with Donald Trump on

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Speaker 7: the ballot, and that was during COVID when people could

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Speaker 7: knock on doors, there was no ground game to be

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Speaker 7: had because of the pandemic. So twenty twenty six is

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Speaker 7: a totally different political environment. And just in the nineteen

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Speaker 7: nineties we did elect Democrats statewide, and it has happened

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Speaker 7: before and it can happen again, especially in this environment,

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Speaker 7: this political environment where people are really feeling the harm

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Speaker 7: that has come from the second Trump administration in a

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Speaker 7: way that they weren't feeling back in twenty twenty, in

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Speaker 7: a way that they maybe felt in twenty eighteen, but

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Speaker 7: it's so much more intense now in twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 7: particularly on the healthcare front, the public health front. I mean,

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Speaker 7: we have an explosive diarrhea crisis in America right now,

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Speaker 7: and you know, we need serious people in office. And

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Speaker 7: that's what I'm offering to voters of South Carolina.

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Speaker 1: As a pediatrician. We're in a period right now where

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Speaker 1: so you have this public health crisis right a lot

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Speaker 1: of the people in leadership, I mean our health, our

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Speaker 1: government's public health, you know, is being run by a

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Speaker 1: guy who doesn't understand very basic parts of science. I'd

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Speaker 1: love you to talk about, as a pediatrician, what you

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Speaker 1: think of RFK Junior.

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Speaker 7: The day r of K Junior was nominated to lead

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Speaker 7: AHHS was the day I started seriously considering getting in

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Speaker 7: this race. RFK Junior has been my professional arch nemesis

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Speaker 7: for decades. He is a grifter and a conspiracy theorist

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Speaker 7: who has been peddling in anti vaccine conspiracy theories for

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Speaker 7: decades while simultaneously enriching himself. He is directly responsible for

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Speaker 7: the measles outbreak that happened in my state of South Carolina,

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Speaker 7: where we had nearly a thousand cases of the measles.

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Speaker 7: He is directly responsible for this cyclosporo outbreak we have

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Speaker 7: with explosive diarrhea all across the country. He is also

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Speaker 7: directly responsible for the increased rate of vaccine refusal and

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Speaker 7: vaccine hesitency that I have witnessed first hand in my

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Speaker 7: practice as a pediatrician. The measles outbreak is the tip

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Speaker 7: of the iceberg. We are going to see increased cases

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Speaker 7: of flu, of RSV, of protesses of bacterial meningitis.

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Speaker 6: Children and patients.

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Speaker 7: Adults will unnecessarily get sick, suffer and die because of

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Speaker 7: how irresponsible RFK Junior is. When I am elected, I

654
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Speaker 7: will not just be a vote yes to impeach and

655
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Speaker 7: remove him. I will lead the charge to impeach and

656
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Speaker 7: remove him. There has never been a more important time

657
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Speaker 7: to have someone with my professional background in the US

658
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Speaker 7: Senate to fight back against the damage that has been

659
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Speaker 7: done by Rfkjor.

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Speaker 1: Explain why he's responsible for the explosive diarrhea.

661
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Speaker 7: Under his leadership at HHS, he has essentially defunded and

662
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 7: defanged the CDC, which, when public health is working, you

663
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 7: don't know it's there, you don't see it working.

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Speaker 6: And for decades, Americans have benefited.

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00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 7: From a highly functional, well informed, well funded public health

666
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Speaker 7: system that helps prevent outbreaks of food borne pathogens like cyclospora,

667
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Speaker 7: that helps prevent outbreaks of vaccine preventable diseases, that helps

668
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Speaker 7: stem the negative impacts of pandemics and respiratory viral illnesses.

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Speaker 7: And Rfkjor blew that all up. He fired all the

670
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Speaker 7: scientists and the serious people. He defunded programs that were

671
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Speaker 7: surveiling for things like cyclospora, and as a result, we're

672
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Speaker 7: not paired to prevent or to react to these problems.

673
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Speaker 7: Rfk Junior doesn't believe in science, but he doesn't even

674
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Speaker 7: understand science. He doesn't understand basic research principles or basic

675
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Speaker 7: statistical principles, and he has no business being anywhere near

676
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Speaker 7: the position that he is in now as Secretary of HHS.

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Speaker 1: Talk us through vitamin K. Explain that to us, because

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Speaker 1: that's another RFK that's much scarier too, because babies are dying.

679
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Speaker 6: Yes, yes, so you know at birth.

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Speaker 7: It has been the recommendation for quite some time that

681
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Speaker 7: all newborns receive an injection of vitamin K. Because of

682
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Speaker 7: you know, some complicated gastrointestinal liver physiology principles. Newborns are

683
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Speaker 7: at higher risk of bleeding and one of the consequences

684
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Speaker 7: of being hypocoagulable, meaning you're at higher risk of bleeding,

685
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Speaker 7: is that you can have strokes. So once this was identified,

686
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 7: there was a studies and recommendation made to give newborns

687
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Speaker 7: an injection of vitamin K at birth that it dress

688
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Speaker 7: reduced the incidence of neonatal hemorrhage neonatal bleeding which includes stroke.

689
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Speaker 7: But because of RFK junior, he has muddied the waters.

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Speaker 7: People think that this vitamin K thing is the same

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Speaker 7: as a vaccine. People new parents of newborns are refusing

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Speaker 7: the vitamin K shot, which has led to cases of

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Speaker 7: newborns dying from stroke or suffering permanent neurological damage because

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Speaker 7: of preventable neonatal hemorrhage or preventable neonatal stroke. Parents are

695
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Speaker 7: also refusing the newborn screen that heel stick that you

696
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Speaker 7: do to babies when they're born to test for all

697
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Speaker 7: kinds of really devastating genetic conditions. You know, these, the

698
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Speaker 7: vitamin K shot and the newborn screen are like, you know,

699
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Speaker 7: scientifical advantage, yes, and you know average parents. I've talked

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Speaker 7: to pediatricians on the ground in South Carolina about this,

701
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Speaker 7: about are you seeing patients who are refusing vitamin K

702
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Speaker 7: And they say yes, and they have had cases of

703
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Speaker 7: infants that have bled after birth because of this.

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Speaker 6: It is so deeply dangerous and he has got to

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Speaker 6: be stopped.

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Speaker 7: Which is why it is so important for Democrats to

707
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Speaker 7: win in November, because if we don't win, if we

708
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 7: don't take back the House, if we don't take the Senate,

709
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 7: our f junior will have two more years to do

710
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 7: this untold damage to our public health system. So people

711
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 7: need to talk to their individual physicians. If you are pregnant,

712
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Speaker 7: if someone in your life is pregnant and they're questioning vaccines,

713
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 7: or they're questioning the hepatitis B shot you get at birth,

714
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Speaker 7: the vitamin K shot, the newborn screen. Please talk to

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Speaker 7: your pediatrician. You cannot trust what RFK Junior is telling you.

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Speaker 1: This is so bleak. I mean, it just gets me

717
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: so upset when we're talking about this, because it's like,

718
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Speaker 1: we have come so far and we have people who

719
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Speaker 1: are killing their own children because they're believing what this

720
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Speaker 1: person is telling them. And it's just so it's so

721
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Speaker 1: hard for me as a mother to watch this because like,

722
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Speaker 1: even though my kids are old, just that we're in

723
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Speaker 1: this moment and that nobody seems to be stopping him.

724
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Speaker 1: It's just so disturbing when you're on the ground. What

725
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Speaker 1: else are you hearing? Like, what else are the concerns

726
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Speaker 1: that people have?

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Speaker 7: I mean, I appreciate you reflecting on how bleak this

728
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 7: really is. You know, it's easy to hear about how

729
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 7: bad OURFK Junior is, but we really do need to

730
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Speaker 7: take a step back and reflect about how far we

731
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Speaker 7: have fallen and how dangerous this trajectory is that we're on.

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Speaker 6: If we don't stop it. And that is what fuels

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Speaker 6: me to run.

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Speaker 7: You know, when I'm talking to voters in South Carolina, Interestingly,

735
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Speaker 7: my biggest applause line has always been when I talk

736
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Speaker 7: about impeaching and removing RFK Junior. Because voters in South

737
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Speaker 7: Carolina are not stupid. They understand that he is a

738
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Speaker 7: conspiracy theorist and a grifter, and they are eager to

739
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 7: do what they can to help remove him, which includes

740
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Speaker 7: electing me to be the next Senator from South Carolina.

741
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Speaker 7: You know, they're just struggling with the fact that Washington,

742
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Speaker 7: DC doesn't seem to ever want to solve any problems.

743
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Speaker 7: You know, We've got crumbling roads and infrastructure here. We

744
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Speaker 7: have failing public schools. We have deep inequities in our

745
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Speaker 7: public schools system. If you live in the Charleston suburbs

746
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Speaker 7: where I live, the public schools are excellent. If you

747
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Speaker 7: go to the rural parts of the state, the I

748
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Speaker 7: ninety five corridor, the public schools are failing. And every

749
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Speaker 7: child deserves access to a high quality public education, regardless

750
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Speaker 7: of the zip code into which they were born. There

751
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Speaker 7: are just so many communities in South Carolina that feel

752
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Speaker 7: left behind. I'm traveling to all these small towns and

753
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Speaker 7: it's so heartbreaking to main street after main Street with

754
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 7: is shuttered doors, shuttered businesses, no young families moving into

755
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 7: these communities because you can't attract young families if there

756
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 7: aren't jobs, if there aren't good schools, if there aren't doctors.

757
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 7: So many parts of South Carolina feel left behind. And

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Speaker 7: so then you have to look to who's been representing

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Speaker 7: South Carolina and Washington, d C for a long time

760
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Speaker 7: and why do they refuse to solve these problems. So

761
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Speaker 7: just because my opponent changed over the weekend doesn't change

762
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Speaker 7: the problems voters in South Carolina are facing, doesn't change

763
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Speaker 7: their need to have a real leader and a real

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Speaker 7: fighter in Washington, d C.

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Speaker 1: When you talk to people in South Carolina, do you

766
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Speaker 1: feel like that they are sort of open to something new?

767
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Speaker 1: Are you hearing Trump regret? Are you not? What are

768
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Speaker 1: you hearing? And what does it look like on the ground.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, I have such privilege because I am

770
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Speaker 7: like in the rooms on the really seeing what's happening

771
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Speaker 7: in South Carolina. I think one proof point is I

772
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Speaker 7: went to a Fourth of July parade, you know, in

773
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Speaker 7: a part of the state down here in the Low Country,

774
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Speaker 7: and it's you know, it's the fourth of July. The

775
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 7: whole day, I saw one person in a Trump shirt.

776
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 7: I saw no Trump flags, no Maga hats, nothing. I

777
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 7: saw one person in a Trump shirt, and that gave

778
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Speaker 7: me a lot of hope. I have seen over time

779
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Speaker 7: as Trump flags in my own neighborhood have.

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Speaker 6: Come down, So you really have seen that.

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Speaker 7: Yes, absolutely, three houses down from where I live, they

782
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 7: used to fly at Trump flag three hundred and sixty

783
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Speaker 7: five days a year. It is not up anymore. Another

784
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Speaker 7: house on the other side of where I live, those

785
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Speaker 7: flags are not up anymore. So you know there is

786
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Speaker 7: buyer's remorse. I can see it, I can feel it.

787
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Speaker 7: And our poll actually showed that one out of five

788
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Speaker 7: non Maga Republicans was planning to vote for me instead

789
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Speaker 7: of Lindsay Graham. And Independents are planning to vote for

790
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 7: me because they see that the Republican Party under Trump's

791
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 7: rule has left them tired of it. They don't identify

792
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 7: with that party anymore. They probably never imagined they would

793
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 7: vote for a Democrat, but when given these two choices,

794
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Speaker 7: they choose me, especially because I'm not a career politician.

795
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Speaker 7: There was an election this week in South Carolina last

796
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Speaker 7: night in the town of Abbeville, where a black female

797
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Speaker 7: Democrat won the mayor's race in a city that went

798
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Speaker 7: for Trump by you know, I think it was like

799
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Speaker 7: plus six Trump or something like that. She won by

800
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Speaker 7: thirty seven points, like wow. And we've had other examples

801
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 7: of special elections where the Democrats have overperformed what Kamala

802
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 7: Harris was able to do because of this Trump buyer's remorse,

803
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 7: because you know, it's easy. It was easy in twenty

804
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Speaker 7: twenty four for Trump to say I'm going to do

805
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 7: all these things for you. But here we are two

806
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 7: years later and he hasn't done anything, and people are

807
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 7: wise to that, and so they're looking for alternatives, and

808
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 7: that's what we're offering.

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Speaker 1: I would love you to talk about sort of what

810
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Speaker 1: you think Democrats should be offering the people who vote,

811
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Speaker 1: because like, people were suffering and they voted for Trump

812
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: because Trump offered them something. I think about the Instagram

813
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: video of the couple where you know, they're like, we

814
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: can afford our lives because President Trump. We've elected President Trump.

815
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Speaker 1: And Donald Trump really did do exactly the opposite, right.

816
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Speaker 1: He said he was going to make things cheaper. He

817
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Speaker 1: put on tariffs, He said he was going to end

818
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Speaker 1: foreign adventures. He has been globe truck. You know, he

819
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 1: still wants to take Greenland. So you know, our military

820
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Speaker 1: needs billions of dollars now because he has just done

821
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Speaker 1: all this foreign adventuring and gas prices or skyrocketing. So

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Speaker 1: I'd love you to talk through like what do these

823
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Speaker 1: people want? How do you talk to them? And what

824
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Speaker 1: do you think is the play for Democrats to get

825
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Speaker 1: these voters? Yeah?

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Speaker 7: I think, you know, I think what Trump did was

827
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Speaker 7: he sort of capitalized, took advantage of the hopelessness and

828
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Speaker 7: the economic struggles of American people, particularly in rural areas,

829
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 7: offered promises but never delivered on solutions. And so what

830
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Speaker 7: Democrats need to do is offer solutions and.

831
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Speaker 6: Then deliver solutions.

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Speaker 7: And when we deliver solutions, we need to also go

833
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Speaker 7: back to the voters and say, look what I did

834
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Speaker 7: for you. Democrats have a hard time taking credit for

835
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Speaker 7: the things that they do. You know, under the Biden administration,

836
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Speaker 7: the Infrastructure Bill, the Chips and Sciences Act, the things

837
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Speaker 7: he did to cap the cost of insulin and prescription drugs.

838
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Speaker 7: So many Americans don't know that he did that that

839
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 7: Democrats delivered. And you know, we have a problem as

840
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 7: a party because we often talk in very esoteric terms

841
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 7: and people don't understand what it is we're talking about.

842
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Speaker 7: We think more data, more charts, is going to convince voters,

843
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 7: but we have to meet people where they are. We

844
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 7: have to talk like regular people to regular people about

845
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 7: the problems that they're facing. We can't presume to prescribe

846
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Speaker 7: an agenda if we don't listen to what problems people

847
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 7: are worried about. I think that's why we're seeing Democratic

848
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Speaker 7: candidates who come from working class backgrounds, actual working class backgrounds,

849
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Speaker 7: other professional backgrounds, who haven't spent their entire careers in politics,

850
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Speaker 7: who aren't over consulted, over polished. Those are the candidates

851
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 7: we're seeing breakthrough right now because people are so hungry

852
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 7: for authenticity. So when I'm on the trail I tied,

853
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 7: I try to listen first and talk second, and take

854
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Speaker 7: every conversation I have with a voter back to my

855
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,399
Speaker 7: team to inform what we're talking about and what we're

856
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 7: putting out there. And you know, it's it's not that hard.

857
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 7: Like as a doctor, I every day I solve problems.

858
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 7: I walk into a sick child's room. I assess the situation,

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Speaker 7: I make a diagnosis, I prescribe a treatment plan. What

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Speaker 7: we have in Washington, d C. Is just a lot

861
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 7: of talk and no action. That's not the kind of

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Speaker 7: senator I'm going to be. I'm going to take that

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Speaker 7: same pragmatic approach I use in my job as a

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Speaker 7: doctor to the halls of the US Senates and actually

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Speaker 7: deliver results for people in South Carolina.

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Speaker 1: Can you just for a minute talk about why you

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Speaker 1: think it's been so hard to crack Souse Carolina for Democrats.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I don't want to start by pointing fingers,

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Speaker 7: but the National Party has consistently, you know, not invested

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Speaker 7: in the.

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Speaker 1: South, which is by the way, insane because North Carolina

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Speaker 1: is like very much on the map here and Georgia

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Speaker 1: has two Democratic senators.

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Speaker 6: Yes, so go on, that's right.

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Speaker 7: And you know the thing about a state like South

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Speaker 7: Carolina is we have a robust, built in democratic base,

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Speaker 7: Like we're not starting at thirty percent. If you actually

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Speaker 7: put in the work and invest the money to build

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Speaker 7: the infrastructure to reach people who will vote for Democrats

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Speaker 7: if they vote, you already start at forty plus percent,

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Speaker 7: near forty five percent. Of the electorate is going to

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Speaker 7: vote for Democrats, so there's not that much room to

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Speaker 7: make up to build a winning coalition. But the South

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Speaker 7: has been left behind, and I don't know why that is.

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Speaker 7: It's deeply frustrating to me as a Democrat running in

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Speaker 7: the South, watching what has happened in Georgia over the

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Speaker 7: past several election cycles, watching what is happening with Roy

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Speaker 7: Cooper in North Carolina. There is no reason we should

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Speaker 7: be ignoring South Carolina, especially now because we have an

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Speaker 7: open Senate seat, because we have a candidate in me

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Speaker 7: who's already raised nearly eleven billion dollars building a campaign that's.

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Speaker 6: Built to win.

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Speaker 7: If we can expand the Senate through a state like

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Speaker 7: South Carolina, then we don't all have to have anxiety

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Speaker 7: every election night staring at Michigan and staring at Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 7: There's many paths to taking back the Senate. We need

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Speaker 7: to stop overlooking the South, particularly because if we want

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Speaker 7: Democrats who are ready for the national stage, we need

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Speaker 7: Democrats who know how to win black voters, who know

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Speaker 7: how to talk to black voters, not people who come

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Speaker 7: from these deeply blue states who don't know how to

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Speaker 7: win an election anywhere than a state where the biggest

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Speaker 7: progressive is going to win.

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Speaker 6: So I have a lot of thoughts about this.

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Speaker 7: I hope that what we learn from this twenty twenty

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Speaker 7: six election cycle, as we're seeing some really high quality

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Speaker 7: candidates here in the South, is that Democrats need to

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Speaker 7: start investing everywhere if we ever want a plan to

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Speaker 7: win back the presidency or to expand our lead in

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Speaker 7: the Senate.

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Speaker 1: I was about to be done, but we've just stumbled

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Speaker 1: on a really really important data point here, which is

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Speaker 1: like Georgia's got two senators, looks like North Carolina is

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Speaker 1: very likely, and yet we see a store launch refusal

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Speaker 1: to focus on South Carolina, on all of the other

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Speaker 1: southern states that could. I mean, obviously Florida is complicated,

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Speaker 1: but like South Carolina is not Florida. Florida is much

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Speaker 1: more expensive and you've raised all this money. So why

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Speaker 1: do you think the national Party is so out of it?

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Speaker 6: For lack of a better word, I mean, old habits

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Speaker 6: die hard.

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Speaker 7: I think there's still a little bit of you know,

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Speaker 7: people are trigger shy because of twenty twenty you know,

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Speaker 7: Dems went all in in South Carolina when my friend

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Speaker 7: Jamie Harrison was running, you know, cook political shifted the

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Speaker 7: race to a toss up. Everybody's a little bit still

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Speaker 7: scarred by how that all played out, But people need

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Speaker 7: to understand twenty twenty six is not twenty twenty. We

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Speaker 7: are in a totally different political environment. I have so much

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Speaker 7: respect for Jamie Harrison, but I'm a very different candidate

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Speaker 7: than him. He was a state party chair, he was

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Speaker 7: a career Democrat, has done a lot of great work

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Speaker 7: in the South, but that's not the candidate that I am.

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Speaker 7: This is not the same twenty twenty We can win.

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Speaker 7: I am optimistic, though, Molly, that like over the coming

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Speaker 7: weeks and months, we're going to see more focus on

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Speaker 7: this race here in South Carolina as things continue to evolve,

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Speaker 7: because we've built a campaign that's ready to win. I'm

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Speaker 7: a candidate that can appeal to the voters you need

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Speaker 7: to appeal to in the South, those non MAGA Republicans

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Speaker 7: and the Independents to actually build a winning coalition.

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Speaker 6: And I don't have any problem if on election night.

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Speaker 7: On November third, everybody shocked that I won and no

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Speaker 7: one was paying attention to this race, happy to shock

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Speaker 7: the country in that way, but we are very confident

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Speaker 7: that we can win, and I think the National Party

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Speaker 7: will see that very soon.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Annie Andrews.

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Speaker 7: Thank you, thank you so much, Molly.

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Speaker 3: No moment per Jesse Cannon Somai dred Fast. We saw

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Speaker 3: last week that the Trump administration's going after New York

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Speaker 3: Times journalists, and now we see that according to UAW

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Speaker 3: President Swan Fein, he's the victim of bogus allegations as

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Speaker 3: they start to do a grand jury indictment to him.

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Speaker 3: I think this sounds about right, because he's about as

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Speaker 3: fearsome as a character comes. He's done the most incredible

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Speaker 3: work in a generation we've seen of union organizing, specifically

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Speaker 3: in the South, which was traditionally very hard to organize.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So, I mean, look, they're going after the reporters

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Speaker 1: because autocrats need to not be investigated because they don't

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Speaker 1: want this kind of reporting about their corruption to come out.

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Speaker 1: And now they're going after the union organizers. This is

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Speaker 1: like the autocrat playbook. This is like Putin in the nineties.

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Speaker 3: This is like what Putin has done for many decades.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so of course they're going after union organizers. None

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Speaker 1: of this is a surprise. It's just a very disappointing

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Speaker 1: moment to watch this administration do all the things. And

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Speaker 1: by the way, like the UAW did in fact endorse Kamala,

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Speaker 1: but there were a lot of you AW workers who

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Speaker 1: did not support her. And there's a really good piece

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Speaker 1: in The New Yorker about Latino voters who voted for

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Speaker 1: Trump and how they have really had just you know,

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Speaker 1: they've seen relatives supported, they're afraid to go to church,

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Speaker 1: and people voting against their own interests, and that is

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Speaker 1: what we're seeing here. I don't know what happens a

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Speaker 1: lot of the time with this stuff. It's a paper

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Speaker 1: tiger and if you push back, you ultimately survive. And

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Speaker 1: the United Autoworkers a huge union with a lot of lawyers,

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Speaker 1: so probably they'll be okay. But it is really a

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Speaker 1: good example of what this administration is trying to do.

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