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Speaker 2: Look at us now, tip to tip. This is our life,

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Speaker 2: this is our passion. That's the spirit we bring to

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Speaker 2: this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat. It is Monday, October fifth, twenty twenty,

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Speaker 1: and it is time donks for Morning Combat. Hi everyone,

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Speaker 1: my name is Luke Thomas. I'm from CBS Sports. I

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Speaker 1: am one half of your hosting duo. The gentleman on

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Speaker 1: the other side of the screen. He is the conspiracy

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Speaker 1: to my theory. What else is he? He's the I

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Speaker 1: don't know, he's just a dog. He's my friend and yours,

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Speaker 1: the one and only Brian Campbell. What's up? BC?

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Speaker 2: Hashtag fired the heck up? Luke. It is Monday Morning.

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Speaker 2: You know this show right. We used to do a little.

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Speaker 2: The little wouldn't do it. The little got more and

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Speaker 2: more live Monday, Wednesday, Friday, MK all day nearly every day.

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Speaker 2: We back, Baby, I'm fired up. Fun weekend of fights, Luke.

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Speaker 2: So we got a lot to get into today and

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Speaker 2: maybe we can blame Ron Johnson's greed and pension for buggery.

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Speaker 2: That Jay is also back with us after taking Wednesday

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Speaker 2: and Friday off.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, did you miss him on Wednesday and Friday. I thought,

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Speaker 1: you know, we didn't really miss a beat. Well that's

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Speaker 1: not quite true. Some things missed a beat. Is that

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure, Jake. Can we bring in just real quick, Jake,

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Speaker 2: because you know I can't. I can't anger the listening

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Speaker 1: Fans don't like the Jay interludes.

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Speaker 2: But okay, let's yeah, let's go down to the aircraft

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Speaker 2: carrier basement. Hey, Jay, you weren't there on Wednesday or Friday?

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Speaker 2: Are they Are they slowly phasing you out?

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Speaker 1: Is it?

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Speaker 2: Are we in the midst of this? I don't know

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Speaker 2: if I could speak to that directly, if that's a directing.

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Speaker 1: I don't want the fans think I was on vacation.

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Speaker 1: I was not. I was just working hard. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you guys are very.

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Speaker 2: Big now and require a lot of time and effort

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Speaker 2: and handholding and those sorts of things.

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Speaker 1: So you know, Corey was there, though Jaff was there.

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Speaker 1: It was pretty kick killer time.

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Speaker 2: Well, Jay, just like in lou Pearlman's back seat in MK,

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Speaker 2: there's no escape, brother, all right, all right, we ride

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Speaker 2: or die? Okay, Louke, how long did he work on that.

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Speaker 1: What do you think all weekend? Buddy in the mirror,

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Speaker 1: he was trying that out this morning. Don't think you

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Speaker 1: want say and true story.

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Speaker 2: Senator Ron Johnson did get COVID over the weekend.

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Speaker 1: I saw that. We're not sure if it's the same guy.

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Speaker 2: All right, details The crack MK investigative team is currently

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Speaker 2: on that.

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Speaker 2: I'm working on it, okay, just like the shelving under here,

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Speaker 2: real quick, you mentioned benchmarks. What is your career high

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Speaker 2: Three words, Luke. You know, three weeks out of her

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Speaker 2: You don't know where that one thirty five belt is going.

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Speaker 1: She's getting better, she certainly is. And then that leads

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Speaker 2: First fight absolutely blew. It was too tentative, It was

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Speaker 2: don't make it a main event, but let's do it.

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Speaker 1: was minding his distance very good, showed eagerness to compete, cleverness,

428
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Speaker 1: guile right, still had, to your point, something to give

429
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Speaker 1: where he did not need to be forced to the

430
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Speaker 1: exit door in a way that you could maybe say

431
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Speaker 1: for some other fighters we've seen more recently, right, because

432
00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:50,639
Speaker 1: after the Lawlor fight, the worst loss he had prior

433
00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:54,359
Speaker 1: to competing on Saturday was probably the Olaveral loss. But

434
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Speaker 1: even then, I think Olivera was ranked barely at the

435
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Speaker 1: time KISA ranked, you know, Maya ranked that sort of

436
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Speaker 1: a thing, So this was the first time he was

437
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Speaker 1: well outside of it. Now it deserves to be noted

438
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Speaker 1: that on the ground there still might be some issues.

439
00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,359
Speaker 1: He's never had a great takedown defense, although he always

440
00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,360
Speaker 1: had a pretty good guard and a pretty active guard

441
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Speaker 1: in terms of his elbows from underneath. He kind of

442
00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,000
Speaker 1: got someone here who would accommodate the stand up a

443
00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,240
Speaker 1: little bit more, and in ways I think that suited

444
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Speaker 1: his style. But to your point, he got the wind.

445
00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:23,080
Speaker 1: It was absolutely deserved. I want to see him against

446
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Speaker 1: somebody commensurate in that way. I just think in MMA

447
00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,480
Speaker 1: we don't talk about what it means to have these wars.

448
00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,040
Speaker 1: We talk about it in boxing a lot, but in MMA,

449
00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,080
Speaker 1: everyone's like, oh, he got knocked out, there'll be no

450
00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,880
Speaker 1: future repercussions for the future. Oh, they had a long war,

451
00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,720
Speaker 1: there'll be no repercussions for the future. Even on the broadcast,

452
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Speaker 1: you know, the broadcast team, and I understand that they

453
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Speaker 1: don't have a lot of leeway because the UFC controls

454
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Speaker 1: the broadcast and so the amount of editorial license they

455
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Speaker 1: have is limited. But no one on there was talking

456
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Speaker 1: about the fact that, as we've said in a million times,

457
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Speaker 1: and it's obviously true, the guy's never been the same

458
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Speaker 1: since the Lawlor fight. How could he be the most

459
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,040
Speaker 1: insane things you've ever seen? It was a car crash

460
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Speaker 1: times five. And so in recognizing those limits and then

461
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Speaker 1: putting those limits into some kind of functionable way, I

462
00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,680
Speaker 1: think you're right. I think that Matt Brown fight makes

463
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Speaker 1: absolutely the most sense. Dennson running fight. Love that one.

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Speaker 1: I think that's totally a no brainer. You could put

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Speaker 1: that anywhere on any kind of card. It can fit

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Speaker 1: in on a pay per view. I wouldn't say it

467
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Speaker 1: would headline a fight night, but you could put it

468
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Speaker 1: on a fight night. I think fans would love it.

469
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Speaker 1: You know, the Natural Born Killer. It's a really unfortunate

470
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Speaker 1: that a lot of folks missed this the greatest time

471
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Speaker 1: of when he was around. There's so much turnover in

472
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Speaker 1: combat sports fandom that these new crops come along post Connor,

473
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Speaker 1: even you know, post Connor's semi retirements, and they just

474
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:46,680
Speaker 1: don't know what it means to be Carlos Connor. Like

475
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Speaker 1: why he was so special, dude. That nickname, the natural

476
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 1: Born Killer, it's very rare. And man, you get a

477
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Speaker 1: nickname that's just not just sort of abstract and mean,

478
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Speaker 1: but like you're like, wow, that's really fitting. Like when

479
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Speaker 1: Vanderliez Silva was Vanderalez Silva. He was the axe murderer

480
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 1: and you're like, wow, that's a really bold nickname. And

481
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,919
Speaker 1: then you watched him stomp on people and you're like, oh, right, okay,

482
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,920
Speaker 1: that actually is totally the perfect one, dude, Carlos Condit

483
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 1: was an absolute gem of a fighter, a fighters fighter,

484
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 1: a fans fighter, that Carlos condit. You cannot reclaim it.

485
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 1: It's just not possible. We have biological limits. But should

486
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,840
Speaker 1: he be shoved out the exitdoor? BC? I think you're right.

487
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,120
Speaker 1: I think that Matt Brown fight makes a lot of sense,

488
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Speaker 1: and we should note credit to Court McGee for resetting

489
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 1: his broken nose in the middle of that. Pretty goddamn impressive.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty gnarly, Luke. You know when those weird times

491
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,440
Speaker 2: when your wife's like, hey, Saturday, you mind, I booked

492
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Speaker 2: us a double day at this couple's apartment or whatever,

493
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Speaker 2: and you're like, you know, who the heck's this? Oh

494
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Speaker 2: you work with her, Well, who's her husband?

495
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Speaker 1: Well?

496
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Speaker 2: I get along with him, you know those awkward you're like,

497
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Speaker 2: you know, it's just she's like, oh, he's great, and

498
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 2: you're like, what does he do for a living? She's,

499
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 2: you know, he's like, oh, he's an it guy. He

500
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 2: fixed his computers. You're like, oh crap, this is gonna suck.

501
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 2: And then you look at the Facebook photo and the

502
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 2: guy's an absolute nerd, and you're like, this is just

503
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Speaker 2: gonna be awful. And then you go over there and

504
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 2: he's like, oh, hey, you want to try my buffalo

505
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 2: chicken dip, and oh I made my own beer in

506
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 2: the back and oh, by the way, you like Vinyl,

507
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,160
Speaker 2: I got this listening room. You're like, oh man, holy crap,

508
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 2: what a surprise, Luke. This is what these old guy

509
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 2: fights are. How excited do you get when YOUFC announces

510
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 2: a fight card and you're like, okay, love the main

511
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 2: Colemaine's important for the top ten. Oh look at that

512
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,920
Speaker 2: preliminary main event old guy name versus old guy name.

513
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 2: Let him bang. I mean, it's a gift to us

514
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,119
Speaker 2: as fans that we don't see coming, Luke. UFC learn

515
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 2: how to cultivate and protect this, or your guys will

516
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 2: keep going to Bellator to make it happen there. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And then the other part about it is like we

518
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Speaker 1: saw her of these recently. We saw it with Cowboy

519
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,680
Speaker 1: and Anthony Pettis, and it's not like we went into

520
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 1: it thinking, oh, nothing bad will happen to them. Either

521
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,360
Speaker 1: guy could have been knocked out in that fight. You're

522
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Speaker 1: going to take damage, but you don't walk into it

523
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Speaker 1: with the like existential dread that you do. If it

524
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Speaker 1: was cowboy versus you know, pick somebody at the top

525
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Speaker 1: of either division one fifty five or one hundred and seventy,

526
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Speaker 1: you'd be like, oh god, this is gonna go poorly man,

527
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Speaker 1: And for what end? Just to build a name off

528
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Speaker 1: someone this vultureish kind of way of treating the stars

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Speaker 1: of the sport. And I get it, that is part

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00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 1: of it, and that will never go away. But to

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Speaker 1: the extent that you can guide someone and give them

532
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 1: not so much a soft landing, but not just boot

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Speaker 1: them out the plane without a parachute, I think you should.

534
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 1: And to that point, it's not like condit hasn't fought,

535
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Speaker 1: you know, the next generation of guys to maybe lend

536
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 1: some names to ola Vera's the kisas he's done it.

537
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 1: We talked about with Anderson Silvan, Derek Brunson. The guy

538
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 1: has used his name enough to help out whoever was

539
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Speaker 1: gonna come next. Give the guy a bit, just a

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00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 1: bit bc of a feathered pillow for him to go

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Speaker 1: out the door.

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Speaker 2: It's the MMA Nursing Home Division. Come on, give it

543
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Speaker 2: to him. Give it to me now, thank you, Ron.

544
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Speaker 2: All Right, I can't deal with Jay in my ear feet.

545
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 2: He's ready. I could see him in the screen. He

546
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 2: was already perched up and like like a jurabil like

547
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Speaker 2: all ready to attack.

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Speaker 1: He's got ants in the pants. All right. Point number

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Speaker 1: three though, be see we moved down the rundown. I

550
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Speaker 1: gotta go to you first on this one. I saw

551
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Speaker 1: you live tweeting and I was like, oh, this must

552
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Speaker 1: be interesting, and then I and I was without words.

553
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 1: Jose Sepeda fighting Ivan Baranchik. I'm getting the name right.

554
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Speaker 1: I believe I am Branchick. This is easily BC in boxing,

555
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Speaker 1: top rank ESPN plus, the best fight of the weekend,

556
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Speaker 1: easily in combat sports, the best fight of the month,

557
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Speaker 1: arguably fight of the year, and something resembling maybe one

558
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Speaker 1: of the more interesting fun boxing fights I've ever seen.

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Speaker 1: I want to go to you first. Let me just

560
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 1: set this up for the fans. It only went basically

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Speaker 1: five rounds ten seconds left in the fifth. There were

562
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Speaker 1: eight total knockdowns. There was at least one knockdown in

563
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Speaker 1: every single round, and the guy who won, Jose Sepeda,

564
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 1: got knocked down twice in the first, meaning heading into

565
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 1: the second he was already down ten to seven, and

566
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Speaker 1: he wins with a thunderous one punch shot. Brian Campbell,

567
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Speaker 1: what can you say about the Zapeeda Baranchick fight?

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Speaker 2: You wrote the Rundown fourth Wall removed look of their

569
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Speaker 2: topics this week. You and I sometimes go back and forth.

570
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Speaker 2: We tweak it. You wrote a question in there is

571
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 2: this the fight of the year, and I was actually insulted.

572
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 2: This is the fight. This is one of the fights

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Speaker 2: of our lifetimes. It's one of you know, it's the

574
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Speaker 2: best fight of this century, not even a full year

575
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Speaker 2: in or I'm sorry off this decade. It's one of

576
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Speaker 2: the better fights of this century. Luke, Is it better

577
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:19,439
Speaker 2: than Corrals Castillo or Gotti Ward one? Or you know

578
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 2: Vasquez Marquez or Paquio Marcuz four, you know Pravadnikoff Bradley.

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Speaker 2: I think it's just short of those. But I saw

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Speaker 2: a lot of people tweeting that they thought it was

581
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Speaker 2: right in that conversation. I mean, look, Bob Knobio, the

582
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 2: founder of Copyobox, loved that guy. His son Dan was

583
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,120
Speaker 2: tweeting that, you know, I just talked to my dad.

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Speaker 2: He was ringside at Hagler hearns and he actually liked

585
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Speaker 2: this one more because of how competitive it wasn't back

586
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 2: and forth, and I think the special sauce in this one, Luke,

587
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 2: why you can compare on the level of those great

588
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 2: historic ones is this. There's many savage fights, there's many

589
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 2: just all out brawls and action fights, but sometimes those

590
00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 2: fights are missing character. Okay, Rios Alvarado one from like

591
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen is a great example. We thought it would

592
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 2: be fight of the year. They both said they wanted

593
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 2: to make the fight of the year. They ran into

594
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 2: each other for six and a half rounds until one

595
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 2: Mike Alvarado got knocked out. Everybody was like, it's one

596
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 2: of the greatest action fights ever. It was really good.

597
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 2: Didn't have much character. What does that mean? Go back

598
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 2: and watch Gotty Ward one swings of momentum, drama, people

599
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,199
Speaker 2: getting you know, obviously hurt, you see the emotion in

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00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 2: their face and yet rallying back. Zapeia Luke my favorite

601
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,199
Speaker 2: fighter at one hundred and forty pounds because he's such

602
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 2: a beautiful, slick, counting puncher boxer, not known as an

603
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,679
Speaker 2: all action guy. He's down ten to seven in the

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00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 2: first round. Like you mentioned, he starts punching. He is

605
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 2: forced to fight against an absolute savage and Branchick and

606
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 2: that momentum change just went back and forth, back and forth,

607
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 2: even to the level that right before is a pay

608
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,360
Speaker 2: that delivered that knockout sick two punch combination. He got

609
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 2: dropped again right before that, and you're like, hey, Branchick

610
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 2: might be finally putting a run together here. He might

611
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 2: be on him. You know, he got put to sleep,

612
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,439
Speaker 2: and it was scary. I mean, I don't want to

613
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 2: look over that. We love these warriors emptying it out

614
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 2: in the ring or the cage. I was, you know,

615
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 2: on pins and needles like a lot of people when

616
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 2: he wasn't moving for a long time. He eventually walked

617
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 2: out of the ring on his own power, and then,

618
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 2: you know, shout out to his co promoters Tony Holden

619
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Speaker 2: and Loud de Bellahore tweeting now updates and pictures. He's

620
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,439
Speaker 2: out of the hospital. He's fine. These guys left it

621
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 2: all in the ring for a truly all time great fights,

622
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,959
Speaker 2: and you know, you need prestige. There wasn't a title

623
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 2: on the line here, but this was former champion Baranchick

624
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 2: in a number one Contenders fight against the paida who

625
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,199
Speaker 2: in his best fight up to date. I was their

626
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 2: ringside in Fresno. I thought he beat Jose Ramirez, who

627
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 2: has two of the four titles and is building toward

628
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 2: that four belt showdown now with Josh Taylor. Zepeda secured

629
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Speaker 2: a rematch now you know in theory with ramerez As

630
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 2: becoming the number one contender for WBC, So it had

631
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 2: some level of prestige. It was a main event, and

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00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 2: I got to give a shout out to Tim Bradley

633
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Speaker 2: and Bernardo was soon on the call there for ESPN Plus.

634
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 2: I thought they absolutely nailed it and were building as

635
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 2: the drama was unfolding. Luke, it was an instant classic.

636
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 2: It wasn't just two jobbers who got in there in

637
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 2: a brawl. There was skill and there was drama, and

638
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 2: I think anytime you can look at an Artrorogatti getting

639
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 2: up from that body shot against Mickey Ward and seeing

640
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 2: the despair in his face and just knowing you got

641
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 2: no frickin' business getting up from that, we had moments

642
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 2: like that in this fight, and to me, that's what separates,

643
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 2: you know, a whole PLUTHORO go on YouTube of great

644
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 2: action fights there's a reason why we stick close to

645
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 2: certain ones, this one with that back and forth pendulum.

646
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 2: How do you get knocked down four times? Luke is

647
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 2: Thepeida did and then win by devastating knockout. You don't

648
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 2: see that. It was incredible, uh are.

649
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: There's so many things to say here. One, I want

650
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: to echo what you said about Osuna and Bradley as

651
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 1: the commentators, because they had a really difficult job. One,

652
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: there were all of these knockdowns happening. In the second round,

653
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: Timothy Bradley on the broadcast implores the audience to call

654
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 1: someone because there's a fight breaking out, which I thought

655
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: was really a not poignant but you know, pressing it

656
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: kind of call, right, So that was interesting to me.

657
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: And then you had this really difficult moment with the

658
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: knockout itself because Baranchick gets absolutely slept. If for folks

659
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: who who didn't maybe didn't see it, it was something

660
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: equivalent to what Marcus did to Paciao in their last fight.

661
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 1: I mean, stone cold out, smelling salts the whole nine

662
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: yards and he did not get up for a long time.

663
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Speaker 1: So they had this exhilaration of this amazing knockout that

664
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Speaker 1: had been a punctuating moment for this wild back and forth,

665
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: and then they had to really switch on a dime

666
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: to this okay, well is this guy okay? And they

667
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 1: did it about as well as anybody else could. I

668
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: really took my hat off to Timothy Bradley, guy who

669
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Speaker 1: has been in there with tob fights, who understands the

670
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: price that the game will make you pay. And Osuna,

671
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: an experienced, dedicated broadcaster in boxing. I thought he did

672
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: a phenomenal job as well. The second thing I'd SAYBC

673
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: is listen, I'm not saying that the criticisms about Top

674
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: Rank just you know, throwing out Drek early on in

675
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: the pandemic when they got back to action were false claims.

676
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: They were very real, but credit where it's due. They

677
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: put on a very important fight for the WBC and

678
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: one hundred and forty pounds more generally, and it paid off.

679
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: So when they put on good fights, even if you

680
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: didn't necessarily get this result, which was amazing, but let's

681
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: say hadn't been quite as good as this, you still

682
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: got to take your hat off to him. Good job

683
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: on Top Rank by getting it done. I think the

684
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: last thing I'd say, BC, is it just speaks to

685
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: one hundred and forty pounds. You know, Jose Ramirez, Josh Taylor,

686
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: the two guys who are going to try and unify

687
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: this those are the sort of the guys who are

688
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: leading this pack. But there's other ones. We just saw

689
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: the two here to paid in Branchick, but Regis program

690
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: it is on that title, by the way, or on

691
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: that list. He fights on showtime later this month. Victor

692
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: post All so still out there as well, Maurice Hooker.

693
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: There are many other fighters in this division, and it

694
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: makes it so compelling, so interesting, so stacked. There's a

695
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: lot of permutations. You know, you could do Baranchick versus

696
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: the Paida probably down the line again. Even though Branchick

697
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: took a fish Ko loss, he was putting it on

698
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 1: Zipada four knockdowns, as we mentioned, and the thing about

699
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: it was the reason why Zapada won to MEBC is

700
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: Baranchick was almost off balancing Zeppaida, taking him off his

701
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: feet with the punch, but not necessarily like driving through

702
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: with him to like really take away his legs, whereas

703
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: Zuppaeda was sort of the better boxer, finding angles, counterfighting right,

704
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: finding the moments through the defense man that's that's a

705
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: styles make fight thing. You could do a gazillion times

706
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: if there's any I love this division, I love the future.

707
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 2: I love that and if both guys are equal on

708
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 2: terms of their willingness, and that's what happened in this fight.

709
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 2: You do a lot of times have to favor the

710
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 2: guy who can throw the shorter, tighter punches. But good god,

711
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 2: look Baranchick's toughness. I mean he would pop back up

712
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 2: from every single knockdown, not wasting another second trying to

713
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 2: show the referee I'm ready, I'm back. You know, Kenny

714
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 2: Bayless did a nice job there. Although eight knockdowns in

715
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 2: five rounds, Kenny bayliss missed one in round two. I

716
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 2: don't know if you saw that when zappeieda got it

717
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 2: from behind and upper cut on branches, So there was

718
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 2: actually nine knockdowns in five rounds. Luke, it was shades

719
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 2: of Prince Nasimhamed Kevin Kelly nineteen ninety seven, the Great

720
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 2: Featherweight war. More on that to come, by the way

721
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 2: later in the show. But it it why I like

722
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 2: that Bradley comment about you know, call your family and

723
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 2: as soon as say call your familia and I'm like, oh, boy, Law,

724
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 2: get Luke Thomas Law in front of that TV right now.

725
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 2: It's a callback to one of Teddy Atlas's great lines

726
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 2: on ESPN. It was a Friday Night Fights war. It

727
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 2: was Mickey Ward against Emmanuel Burton Augustus. He said, you know,

728
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 2: call your friends, call anybody, you gotta see this fight.

729
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 2: I love when boxing does this, Luke. This is a

730
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 2: broken sport, right, It's the red light district of sports.

731
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 2: It breaks your heart a lot. But those of us

732
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 2: who have gotten a taste, those of us who are

733
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 2: day one ish guys, those of us who have injected

734
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 2: it at some point in our life, Luke, we can't

735
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 2: quit it. We can't get enough. I love when these

736
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 2: moments happen. When I'm seeing on Twitter all our MMA

737
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 2: brethren are like, oh my god, turn on ESPN right now.

738
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 2: It's it's kind of what next. Kellerman likes to do.

739
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 2: For this long preamble, he has that boxing actually is

740
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 2: everyone's favorite sport, and he always gives an illusion of

741
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,720
Speaker 2: if there were four sports going on at each corner

742
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 2: of an intersection, everybody would be at the fight, right.

743
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 2: And this is one of those reminders that you know

744
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 2: you may be an MMA fan who's like, you know,

745
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 2: I like some boxing, but this reminds you why we

746
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 2: love it, why we stick through it and go through

747
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 2: the mud, because it is it was just it's so

748
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 2: pure and gorgeous and amazing. And my final point is

749
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 2: this Tim Bradley Luke. You remember his Provodnikov fight right

750
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 2: just savage, A.

751
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: Lot of good Provodnikov in that one was disfigured when

752
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: it was over.

753
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 2: And to see Bradley Gough Zepeida Branchick was better than

754
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,399
Speaker 2: that fight, which again you're you know, that's that's saying

755
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 2: a lot. But to see Bradley, a guy who retired

756
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 2: Luke in his mid thirties when he still had a

757
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 2: lot left in the tank, you know, could have won

758
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 2: another title, could have really you know, been in some

759
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 2: pay per view fights, but he walked away after his

760
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 2: third or after the second loss to Manipacio and their

761
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 2: trilogy shortly after that, and it was it was amazing

762
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 2: to hear him be this real and basically say on

763
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 2: the broadcast this fight right here, that's the reason why

764
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 2: I got out early. I could still been fighting. But

765
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 2: watching this fight now, being you know, humbly sitting here,

766
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 2: you know, I'm happy that I did. And it's kind

767
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 2: of a contrasting point because we're celebrating this great war

768
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,919
Speaker 2: and here I'm complimenting a guy who's like, I got

769
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 2: out so I don't have to be in more like this,

770
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,720
Speaker 2: And I'm just happy. Branching is okay because when boxing

771
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,399
Speaker 2: is great, there's nothing like it, but Luke, often when

772
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 2: boxing is great, there is such a price to pay,

773
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 2: and these guys poured it all out in the ring

774
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 2: on this night. Yes, thank you. Please see this fight

775
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 2: if you have not seen it, please.

776
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 1: I say this all the time in these words because

777
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 1: I believe it's the way it should be said. People

778
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: talking about how he left a piece of himself but

779
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: like and that that is a helpful way to understand it.

780
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 1: But I always worded this like you hear me say

781
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: it all the time, MMA or boxing. Carlos Kanda was

782
00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 1: the same thing against Robbie Lawler. You know, it's a

783
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: sacrifice on the altar of athletic greatness. It's really what

784
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: it is. It is I'm going to potentially disrupt my

785
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: ability to function as a human. I'm going to affect

786
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: my quality of life. I'm going to affect my longevity

787
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: in the sport. I'm going to give up real important

788
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 1: parts of my professional and maybe even personal life and

789
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 1: health in order to get this win. Man, when they

790
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 1: do that, people always ask me, like, you know, what

791
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: happens when you have to give coverage to a fighter

792
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: you don't like. I mean, there's a lot of fighters

793
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: I don't like, But the reality is this do when

794
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: they get in there and they do certain things like

795
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: you see with Branchick in Zepeda. And that's a bit

796
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: of a hyperbolic example, but it doesn't have to be

797
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: that crazy. You know, I like Anthony Smith, but as

798
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: an example, imagine I didn't and he's handing his teeth

799
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 1: to the referee. Dude, when someone does something like that,

800
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: as a media member, whether you like them or not,

801
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 1: you have to respect that, you have to honor that,

802
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: you have to really be in touch with what they

803
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 1: are giving away. And I always try to remember that.

804
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: That's why I say about Colby Covington, Dude, he hasn't

805
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: had wars like that, but it doesn't matter if he

806
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: gets in one like that. He had something kind of.

807
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 2: Close ish war against usman.

808
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:08,959
Speaker 1: Okay, but that's what I'm saying, Like, when that was over,

809
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: people were celebrating his broken jaw, and I get it, dude.

810
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 1: He talks so much smack. You know you do that

811
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: the whirlwind is gonna come back on you. I understand.

812
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 1: But as a medium member BC, I know you would agree.

813
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 1: When that fight was over, I took my hat off

814
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 1: to Kolby Covington. You have to. That was too much

815
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 1: to give away. That was too hard to do for

816
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: anybody who understands what does it cost here to do

817
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: anything other than pay respect.

818
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 2: That's why I think your one rewatch of Wayley jeong

819
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 2: Yoanna from burying the hatchet for good Luke, and I

820
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 2: can't wait for that day.

821
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: But Okay, to your point, I don't like her very much.

822
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: But did you see my coverage after the fact? Number one?

823
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: I thought she won that fight and I had nothing

824
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: but positive things to say about her. You have to.

825
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: You have to. How can you watch someone literally get

826
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: disfigured through the course of five rounds, Never take their

827
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: foot off the gas, never do anything other than say

828
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 1: I'm going to die here or that the time will

829
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,240
Speaker 1: expire in order to get this. You have to honor

830
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: that man, and if you don't, I legitimately think you're

831
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: a bad person. Is you are owed that the fans

832
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 1: can do what they want, but media members, I feel

833
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: like it's a different ballgame. And Timothy Bradley, as now

834
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: a media member can articulate that in ways that certainly

835
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 1: the rest of us cannot. All right now, speaking of

836
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: sacrificing something, let's move on to point four here, BC,

837
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: I don't know what to say about this. Chris Widman

838
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: has been active on social media to the point where

839
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 1: he has noted I would like to fight with Israel

840
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: out of Sonya, and then on top of it, noting

841
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: we have two mutual opponents and I did better against

842
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 1: them than he did. And those two then Auta Soignya

843
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 1: and Widman got into a bit of a back and forth. Okay,

844
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: Widman believes he would do really well against Attasnya. BC,

845
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 1: I'll go to you first again. Does Chris Widman have

846
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,919
Speaker 1: a death wish?

847
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 2: He does, Luke, because I don't know if you remember

848
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 2: a year ago when he was doing the same thing

849
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 2: that John Jones about moving up to two o five. Look,

850
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 2: you gotta love wide belief in himself. It's how he

851
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 2: got to where he was. And could you make a

852
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 2: hipster argument, which he tried to make of. Look, I

853
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 2: beat Gaslam and I beat him kind of easy, and

854
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 2: that was before you went into a five round war

855
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 2: with him. You know, I'm a wrestler. I've got this,

856
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 2: you know, the kryptonite for you. All that stuff sounds

857
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 2: good on paper and it is true, although you know,

858
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 2: can we not realize that Gaslam is an up and

859
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 2: down guy? And the Adasania Fight Night two thirty six Atlanta.

860
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 1: I was there.

861
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 2: He fought like a champion. You know, that was his

862
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 2: best performance ever. So it's not apples to oranges here.

863
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 2: Move away from the keyboard, Chris. I say that with

864
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 2: love and respect. I know that you came out and said, look,

865
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 2: all those losses in a row against the Lee opponents,

866
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 2: you still got a lot left. He did just bounce

867
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 2: back with a win. I'll give him credit, Luke. I

868
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 2: like some of the things he showed, but I think

869
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 2: he's on the other half of that. And you know,

870
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 2: it was a great American poet, Tupac Shakor, who once

871
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 2: said it's time to fight back. That's what Huey said, Luke.

872
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 2: But two shots in the dark and now hughe's dead. Okay.

873
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,280
Speaker 2: I don't think you really want this smoke Chris Widman.

874
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 2: This would be a one drubbing. And I do believe that, Luke,

875
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 2: and I don't think he's anywhere close to be earning

876
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 2: it in the middleweight rankings. And even though yes he

877
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 2: is a legend, you know, I don't think he gets

878
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 2: the fast forward treatment that Jose Aldo got or that

879
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 2: Frankie Edgar got against Holloway, where you're like, we haven't

880
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 2: seen this match up yet, let's see it. This b

881
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 2: side old guy would sell. I don't have a great

882
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 2: feeling about this at all, Luke. You know where I

883
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 2: want to see Chris Widman rematching Luke Rockhold. I want

884
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 2: to see him against other old names who have vulnerabilities

885
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 2: as well. You know there's still something in there. Chris

886
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 2: Widman should not retire, but he should stop fighting youel Romero,

887
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 2: and he should stop fighting you know that very elite

888
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 2: level guys, because I think it's gonna end badly for him.

889
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: I mean, here's the thing for me. Everybody likes to

890
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: say when an opponent or when a fighter is doing

891
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: really well, you know what would happen if he fought

892
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: a fighter? And I'll just make something up that had

893
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 1: really good distance kickboxing, or I'll make another one up

894
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 1: they had really good risk control and takedowns and rides

895
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: and blah blah blah. And then I'm always like, Okay,

896
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: that's fine. That might be somebody who could beat this opponent,

897
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: fighter that everyone is trying to figure out. Show me

898
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: on the list who that is. And then you get

899
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,240
Speaker 1: to a point you're like, that fighter doesn't exist. Listen.

900
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: Chris Widman, I think, has a point that if you

901
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: could muster the very best of what he had, which

902
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: is the you know, the fainting distance, closing, quick shot

903
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: level change on a single on a double against the fence,

904
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: get him down. He does have good control, especially from Turtle,

905
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: with those risk controls and whatnot. But like that, Chris Wybman,

906
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,479
Speaker 1: we haven't seen maybe since the Gasoline fight, and again

907
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,399
Speaker 1: Gaslam a very different character. And then long before that,

908
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 1: which is to say, Chris Widman appears to me again.

909
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: And I understand fighters, if you don't irrationally believe in yourself,

910
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 1: you should not be a fighter. You have to do

911
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: what Chris Wiman is doing. I don't begrudge him the idea.

912
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: Excuse me, I don't begrudge him the exercise of going

913
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: through this and believing he could do it, because while

914
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 1: it becomes a liability at the end of your career,

915
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: it's the very engine that powers you through the beginning,

916
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: in the middle of it, and then difficult moments interspersed.

917
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,760
Speaker 1: But to me, it's like what Chris Wiman is arguing

918
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: here is that the idea of Chris Widman would be

919
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 1: a very difficult fight for Anderson. Excuse me, for Israel

920
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: out to Soignia, okay, but the idea and then the

921
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: actuality there appears to be a gap. I mean, he

922
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: did beat Omrio Akamanov, and that's a very legitimate win.

923
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: I take nothing away from him, but he only won

924
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,240
Speaker 1: two of those three rounds. He looked a little gassed,

925
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: even he was very undercutting of his own performance. I

926
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: think people continuously do not understand what they are up

927
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 1: against with Israel outa SIGNI and he keeps talking about

928
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: and saying, they all talk this, and then when they

929
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: get in front of me, they don't do the same

930
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 1: things they normally do. His takedown defense is better than

931
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: people realize. His mind control is better than people realize.

932
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 1: Everything he does is in many ways better than people realize.

933
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: But you cannot bank on the idea of this fighter

934
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: who came to throne the champion, the idea of somebody

935
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 1: who has all these skills. You got to look at

936
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: what is there. Hey, If Chris Widman keeps winning, BC,

937
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind seeing it down the road. You keep

938
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: winning in ways that you know make it impossible for

939
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 1: us to deny and make us eat cro I'll be

940
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: the first one on this show to eat Crow, but

941
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: that we are a long way off from that, and

942
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: Attosignia has bigger fish to fry in the interim.

943
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't begrudge if this, if any part

944
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,439
Speaker 2: of this is Chris Wyben saying, look, you know, I've

945
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 2: only got X amount of fights left. I'd love to

946
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 2: be back in a pay per view man event with

947
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 2: big time money. I don't begrudge anyone doing that. And

948
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 2: I also don't expect him or any fighter to ever

949
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 2: listen to your basement keyboard warriors like me and you

950
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 2: know who, what the hell does BC? No, well, somebody

951
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 2: does pay me for my opinion though, Okay, but at

952
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 2: the end of the day, if any fighter ever listened

953
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 2: to me sitting here saying I don't think so you're done. No,

954
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 2: you know, you'd never see any of these great victories

955
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 2: or great stories of comebacks. But at the same time,

956
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 2: this is not a style matchup. I think that even

957
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 2: works even with the wrestling. Look, he'd get lit up

958
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 2: on the feet. You know it, I know it, all right.

959
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, And the other part is the absorbing the damage.

960
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 1: We saw with Dominic Reyes. The wrestling was barely relevant

961
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 1: because once he got a clear shot across the jaw,

962
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: that was it. And that's the part about it, dude.

963
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: It's like again, it's the idea of Chris Widman as

964
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: the guy who beat Mark Muno's Well, dude, that guy

965
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: was that was, in the words of Lebron James, a

966
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: jogger or not. I mean, he was very, very impressive.

967
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:18,800
Speaker 1: He had just the incredible improvisation, and he didn't have

968
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: all those injuries and he didn't have all those models. Yeah,

969
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: that guy might be something kind of different. It's just

970
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: not what we're dealing with today. But to your point,

971
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: we are just too jimokes giving our opinion. We don't

972
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 1: know what his reality is. So how about last last thing.

973
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 1: Let me just end it. Let me just let me

974
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 1: end it here. If he goes out like I said,

975
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: if he goes out there and improves it, then we

976
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: can shut up and we can tell each other how

977
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: stupid we are after the fact.

978
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,760
Speaker 2: How about this fight instead? How about for Anderson Silva's

979
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 2: retirement fight in Brazil? Chris Widman, the two guy, the

980
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 2: guy that twice took the ghost from him? Right, Like,

981
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 2: let's just do that. It's a competitive matchup. Let's see

982
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 2: it once and for all right, favorite.

983
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 1: I completely agree, I totally agree. All right. Last and

984
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: final thing, I noticed we didn't really get into it

985
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: a whole lot last week. More then just sort of

986
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: as a consideration about big fights the UFC could make.

987
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 1: But there appear to be appears to be, excuse me,

988
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: some movement on this two different ways. Okay, how might

989
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: a John Jones versus Israel atasigna fight? Looking, Here's why

990
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 1: I bring this up. They go on and extended social

991
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 1: media back and forth, predominantly on Twitter, just killing each

992
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 1: other for their various you know whatever. Okay, Dana White

993
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: took note of it, and he was asked, is this

994
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 1: the fight you want to make? He expressed pretty clear

995
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: interest in doing it and not in some kind of

996
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 1: oh maybe one day, no, like we've got our eye

997
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 1: on this kind of a way, and then shouts to

998
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: the boys at Submission Radio whose names I had forgotten,

999
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: Casper and Dennis. I apologize fellas because we look at

1000
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: her with a yeah, and it's a lot of different things, yes,

1001
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 1: kayannes see. Nevertheless, they had Eugene Bearman on I think

1002
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: their most recent episode, and in it he was asked

1003
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: what about a John Jones fight. Eugene Barman has said,

1004
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 1: according to what conversations with Israel, to sign and tell

1005
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: him that it doesn't matter if that fights at heavyweight

1006
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 1: middleweight two o five, he wants it. And if Kennon Ere,

1007
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: who has a big fight at UFC two fifty four,

1008
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 1: can't get the quickest turnaround, h they would look to

1009
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 1: that one next BC. How would a fight between John

1010
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: Jones and Israel Adasanya.

1011
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 2: Look, that's the question, that is the question. In some ways,

1012
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 2: I want to and will kind of pin it back

1013
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 2: on you in one second, Professor Salton Pepper, because I

1014
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 2: know you, you know you slave over the stove that

1015
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 2: is watching these videos forty nine times, Luke, forty nine times,

1016
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 2: not forty eight bro, not fifty okay, forty nine times.

1017
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 2: So we talked last week why it makes sense now

1018
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 2: marketing wise, and you know you it just it really does.

1019
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 2: It really does make a lot of sense. Now. I

1020
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 2: am blown away that Dana White said it's the fight

1021
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 2: to make. How does it look? Both you and I

1022
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 2: gave a sort of like, look, there's a guy that's

1023
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 2: rising at the moment. It's out of Sonya. Can I

1024
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 2: imagine when those two trade touch gloves at two oh five?

1025
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 2: Can I imagine him having more success? Yes? I can.

1026
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 2: I get the counter argument of hold on, bro we're

1027
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 2: talking about a skinny middleweight here. What happens when John

1028
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 2: Jones does what the pure John Jones does, take you

1029
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 2: down and ground and pound you. That's a big element

1030
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 2: of it. That's why you know you love matchups, make

1031
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 2: you know styles make fights. You love the idea that

1032
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 2: I do believe aut a Sonya would have a distinct

1033
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 2: advantage in speed and cleverness in a lot of ways.

1034
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 2: On the stand up, John's got great defense. I'd love

1035
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 2: to see how that chess match goes what. I love

1036
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 2: John on the ground absolutely, but I don't think it's

1037
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 2: as easy to just count out out of Sonya because

1038
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 2: he's a middleweight right now, Luke, you've seen his kickboxing.

1039
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 2: Caary fought at Cruiser and Heavy. There's a real fight, Luke.

1040
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 2: This is a freaking real fight, and on the feet.

1041
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 2: I don't know if John would want to stay there

1042
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 2: with him for five rounds. So I would love to

1043
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:00,879
Speaker 2: see what is he's take down defense, which has been

1044
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 2: amazing so far, can do against a one of the

1045
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 2: best wrestlers in the history of this game who's going

1046
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 2: to have a big size advantage. Luke, I want to

1047
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 2: I think I need to see this fight. I don't

1048
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 2: exactly know how it's gonna look, so I want to

1049
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 2: spin it back on you. Let's not forget John Jones.

1050
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the advantages he would have. Can is

1051
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 2: he handle that size difference in the wrestling.

1052
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,399
Speaker 1: I don't think the size difference is as meaningful as

1053
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: folks think it is. I mean, think about three of

1054
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,879
Speaker 1: his last so excuse me. Two of his last three

1055
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:35,280
Speaker 1: fights John Jones. The last one was Reyes. Okay, legit

1056
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: to a fiver. I've seen him in person a number

1057
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 1: of times, and he came to one of my pre

1058
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: shows at Sirius XM. He's a big dude. Is he?

1059
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 1: As I was next to him? Is he and Dominic

1060
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 1: Reyes came to that party together and I saw him

1061
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 1: stand next to each other. Is he? How I think,

1062
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 1: was certainly longer than Dominic Reyes and nearly the same stature,

1063
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: not quite as sort of thick and muscle bound, but

1064
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 1: still pretty close. Number one, Number two. The other two

1065
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,240
Speaker 1: fighters that would be on that list would be Anthony

1066
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: Smith and to Yago Santo's two former middleweights. Well, what

1067
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 1: is israel atasnya? He's a middleweight. I keep saying this

1068
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 1: with the Wyman case. I'm gonna say it here again

1069
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 1: with the John Jones case. People have this idea that

1070
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: there's this excuse me, they have the idea of John Jones,

1071
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: and then there's John Jones. Now, to be clear, John

1072
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: Jones would probably, I think, in an odd speak to

1073
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: this be your favorite. There are numerous plausible scenarios where

1074
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:30,439
Speaker 1: John Jones wins his fight. IQ is extraordinary, his well

1075
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: roundedness is extraordinary. But the reason why he was in

1076
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: those fights with Smith and Santos, and in a different way.

1077
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: Reyes have said it again before, I'm gonna say it again,

1078
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: it's because his defense is tremendous. He is hard to hit,

1079
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: and when you land on him, he's usually covered up

1080
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: in some kind of way, or he's very good at

1081
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:53,320
Speaker 1: rolling with the punches to take away some of the impact.

1082
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 1: His takedown defense is maybe the best I've honestly ever seen,

1083
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: just phenomenal. His distance management quite good. He has what's

1084
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 1: called single shot high variance. Doesn't throw a lot of combos,

1085
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:06,879
Speaker 1: but throws one here one here, one here, one here

1086
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: one here. He too, like is he has good does

1087
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 1: sort of jagged rhythms with his strikes, but his offense

1088
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: is not what it once was. And then includes his takedowns.

1089
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: He got two against Reyes, they didn't count at all.

1090
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,720
Speaker 1: He got zero against Thiago Santos, and he did get

1091
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,879
Speaker 1: three against Smith, but Smith I don't think has as

1092
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 1: good takedown defense as Israel Adasanya. So I'm not telling

1093
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 1: UBC that he wouldn't get it. But the idea that

1094
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:36,320
Speaker 1: it's a four gone conclusion is absurd. There's this idea

1095
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,320
Speaker 1: of John as this guy who took everybody down, including

1096
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 1: Daniel Cormier, and then there's the reality of the last

1097
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 1: few fights. John is what thirty two to thirty three,

1098
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: He's got a lot of miles on him, and this

1099
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 1: is the key insight for MEBC. John Jones is super smart.

1100
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 1: He is not dumb at all. Is he obviously very

1101
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: brilliant too. He is fighting in a way that I'm

1102
00:50:56,520 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 1: not going to call risk averse, but he apportions the

1103
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: risk very carefully. This idea that he's just gonna go

1104
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 1: out and march down on Adasanya and grab a hold

1105
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: of him and take him down, I don't find plausible

1106
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 1: at all. I find it plausible he can get a

1107
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 1: takedown or two or maybe more. I don't think that's crazy.

1108
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 1: But he's gonna have to work for it. He's gonna

1109
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 1: be very careful about it, because everything we've seen in

1110
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 1: this stage of his career speaks to exactly that the

1111
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 1: same thing that Saint Pierre was doing, and those fights

1112
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: against Reyes and Santos and Smith Smith a lesser extent,

1113
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: but certainly Santos and Reyes very close, very close fights.

1114
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 1: What makes you think that Santos can get a card

1115
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 1: off of John Jones and Adasanya can't. That Reyes, in

1116
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: my opinion, beat him and Adasnya can't. Why is that

1117
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: so crazy? People are overestimating the liabilities of ATTASNYA, and

1118
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 1: they are overestimating rather the they're using the inertia of

1119
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 1: John's greatness because he's been so good for so long

1120
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 1: and just carrying it into thirty three year old John Jones,

1121
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 1: who doesn't fight the way that he used to. Even

1122
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 1: if I recognize mece a very formidable threat to anybody

1123
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 1: in any way class.

1124
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 2: I want to ask you a question that only I

1125
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:10,320
Speaker 2: want you to answer in ten seconds or last and

1126
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 2: I want to make a point. Do you think is

1127
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 2: he could hurt John at two a five given John's

1128
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 2: legendary chin. Yes, Okay, with that in mind here, Luke,

1129
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 2: this is why I think John should go to heavyweight instead,

1130
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 2: because you know we talked about I think he could

1131
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,240
Speaker 2: have a second chapter there with the difference in speed,

1132
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 2: like how great DC was when he got back to heavyweight.

1133
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 2: I think that gap really would allow John to be

1134
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 2: this almost like you're saying risk averse to a degree,

1135
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 2: Floyd Mayweather likability to take a snapshot out of the

1136
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 2: fight and when the Direk's facing are slower than him,

1137
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,399
Speaker 2: be able to see like the matrix, you know, coming

1138
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,839
Speaker 2: in and out and react. That's why I think it's

1139
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 2: a potential bad matchup to meet out of Sonya right

1140
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 2: now at two a five, And which is why I

1141
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,359
Speaker 2: want to see it so bad, not because I want

1142
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 2: to see John lose, but because I think John would

1143
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 2: have the size, the wrestling, the smarts, the defense as

1144
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,800
Speaker 2: you mentioned, but would have issues with a faster fighter.

1145
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 2: And I think, you know, even dom Reis's speed and

1146
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 2: angles gave him some trouble. I think, godsign you wouldive

1147
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:08,799
Speaker 2: him a lot of trouble. So I want to sort

1148
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 2: of piggyback this debate and ask you this if you

1149
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 2: were Dana White, remember we saw Dana and the fur Cheetahs,

1150
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,359
Speaker 2: you know, drink the whiskey with Connor and make him

1151
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 2: a company man and plan out his career. Let's say

1152
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 2: Dana and Endeavor in company sit down with Izzy right now.

1153
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 2: Would it be even smarter for them to say, we

1154
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 2: want you to fight John at two a five, but

1155
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 2: we want you to go to tool five in general

1156
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 2: right now, because this might be the time. I mean,

1157
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 2: is he's young ish, but he's also you know, in

1158
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 2: his early thirties with a long history in glory. Could

1159
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 2: he also have similarly wide advantages at tool five against

1160
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 2: all the names right now, considering that division is reloading

1161
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 2: but not necessarily crazy deep, is there anything left for

1162
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 2: him to prove at middleweight? Although, look, I get it

1163
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 2: before all the haters come at me. I know he

1164
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 2: doesn't have seven, eight nine title defenses, but do you

1165
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 2: think he actually should fight in general two of five

1166
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 2: towards this idea of eventually moving up all the way?

1167
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 2: And right now, what do you run the table against

1168
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:06,240
Speaker 2: these guys?

1169
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 1: Run the table? I don't know. I mean, you know,

1170
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 1: you zig when you're supposed to zag in the sport PC.

1171
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 1: You know as well as I do. The margin for

1172
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,280
Speaker 1: err is pretty low, which is why John's fight style

1173
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 1: is so smart, right, I mean, he knows one wrong

1174
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: move and the whole thing just comes, you know, one

1175
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,479
Speaker 1: Jenga piece and the whole thing just comes completely tumbling down.

1176
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 1: So I think that speaks to why he fights the

1177
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 1: way that he does. Now, I would say, you know,

1178
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:30,919
Speaker 1: I don't know that we need to jump the gun

1179
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:34,359
Speaker 1: and push Izzy in that direction this stage. I mean,

1180
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 1: the Winnaker rematch to me is kind of interesting. A

1181
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 1: cost to rematch, I think down the road would be

1182
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 1: interesting to me. He still has work to do in

1183
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: Cannon ear and maybe her Manson. Her Manson also, I

1184
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 1: think would be kind of an interesting fight based on

1185
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 1: the way in which he competes. You know, there's still

1186
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: some challenges I think that he has to answer for.

1187
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: And some days you have good days, some days you

1188
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 1: have bad days. You still have to show up as

1189
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 1: a champion and put your title up for grabs, and

1190
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,359
Speaker 1: Anderson Silva doing that for as long as he did

1191
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 1: tells us that anybody who wants to even compete at

1192
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,040
Speaker 1: middleweight for some of the accolades that he and we

1193
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 1: has to do some of the same things. But I

1194
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 1: just feel like if you wanted to pick John Jones

1195
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:09,359
Speaker 1: to beat Israel Atasania, I do not in any way

1196
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:12,280
Speaker 1: think that is crazy. Maybe even that's the likeliest outcome,

1197
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: depending on one's perspective. But this idea that like John's

1198
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: just gonna run him over, take him down, pound him out,

1199
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 1: this is not in touch with reality. That is a

1200
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:25,760
Speaker 1: hugely competitive fight, very interesting, and one with enormous stakes

1201
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,359
Speaker 1: no matter what you do. So BC, that's what I say.

1202
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 2: All right, City Cockboxing in the house, love.

1203
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 1: It all right. With that in mind, this is the

1204
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 1: portion of the show where we go to what you

1205
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 1: folks have to ask us. It is time now for

1206
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 1: dms from dogs, and there's the dogs, all right, b C.

1207
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: Let's go to our first question, if we can. From

1208
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 1: Game bread ninety three, I do not believe this is

1209
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 1: jegeen Masbital. They ask who is the smallest fighter that

1210
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 1: could go back and win UFC one?

1211
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 2: Great question.

1212
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 1: That's a great question, actually, but you.

1213
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 2: Okay, here, here's I gotta have a I gotta have

1214
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 2: you settle it though. Would they be as skilled as

1215
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,240
Speaker 2: they are today? Because you know the lack of skills

1216
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 2: that all right?

1217
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, like you could say, I guess what the

1218
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 1: question is asking is someone you could have now and

1219
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 1: send him back in time?

1220
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 2: I mean those big guys luke UFC one, just I

1221
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 2: mean they were they didn't have I don't even know

1222
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 2: if they had one skill some of them, right, like

1223
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 2: there was there was some uh.

1224
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:34,839
Speaker 1: Let's start here. Saint Pierre would beat them, all right.

1225
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. His combination of wrestling and and even you know,

1226
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 2: even average to above average level of jiu jitsu. I mean,

1227
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:44,959
Speaker 2: I mean he's you know, he's he's all the time great.

1228
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 2: But even just that alone, I think could be a

1229
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:48,799
Speaker 2: lot of these guys, right.

1230
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 1: All right, so let's go down to weight class could be.

1231
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, he would. Yeah. I mean, well, I don't

1232
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 2: want to get too crazy here. I mean because you know, Hoys,

1233
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 2: Gracie was a light heavyweight right when he was doing that.

1234
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 2: I know he was small, but he was a he

1235
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 2: looked super.

1236
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 1: Like I think more like more like welter middle Remember

1237
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 1: he fought Matthews at one sixty.

1238
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 2: That's no, I thought he fought Matt he was.

1239
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 1: At a Sorry, so what I was saying what I

1240
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 1: was saying, one seventy five? Sorry, yeah, five pounds above welterweight,

1241
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: won seventy five.

1242
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, when I said light heavyweight, I was thinking

1243
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 2: boxing one seventy five is like.

1244
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 1: I'm sorry I did.

1245
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 2: Sorry, No, that was my fault there, all right, So

1246
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 2: he's basically a middleweight in there against them. Yes, GSP

1247
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 2: is skilled enough and tough enough.

1248
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna

1249
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 1: say Volkanovsky could do it, dude, right.

1250
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 2: Well, just to just to see a habib. They're like

1251
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 2: their understanding of basic jiu jitsu, you know, outside of

1252
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 2: Ken Shamrock.

1253
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 1: Or it didn't exist.

1254
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 2: It was not there was not there at all.

1255
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 1: And also and also they have no takedowns, Like look

1256
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 1: at what Volcanoski can do. He can stick and move.

1257
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 1: They don't know how to trap him in a corner.

1258
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 1: They're big, but you know, the guy played rugby. Couldn't

1259
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 1: he find a way? I mean it's open weight, right,

1260
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 1: so he's gonna come in at whatever weight he wants. Uh,

1261
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 1: he wouldn't get too blown up, obviously, But the point

1262
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 1: being is, you know, we have a little bit of

1263
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: wiggle room. He could come in there, let kick his

1264
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 1: way to just destroying those guys. They don't if they've

1265
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 1: never even heard of leg kicks or taken them before.

1266
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 1: That didn't hapen till later on with Marco huas King

1267
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 1: of the Streets.

1268
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 2: So how big was Sackne? Remember? Remember was it Keith Hackney?

1269
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 2: How big was he?

1270
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 1: He was a two hundred pounder plus all.

1271
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 2: Right, and he looked he also looked tiny in there

1272
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 2: against some of these guys. We do have to remember that.

1273
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 2: I mean, if you you know, guy.

1274
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: Okay, here's the thing. There was a Manuel Yarborough, that

1275
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 1: big four hundred, five hundred pound or the sumo guy.

1276
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, because Volkanowski is not gonna get him off

1277
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 1: of him. I don't.

1278
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 2: I mean like I'm thinking like Keith Hackney is like

1279
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 2: a bandam weight just because that you know, your memory

1280
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 2: is talk. But if he's two hundred pounds, you know

1281
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 2: could could he could? Somebody like a Volkanowski hurt the

1282
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 2: because there are Look, Gerard, Gord do gorgo whatever. The

1283
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 2: guy that fish hooked the guy's eye out, George, you

1284
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 2: know that guy. That guy had some skills for a

1285
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 2: big guy. I mean there were some, all right. There

1286
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 2: were a lot of fake guys, right What I mean

1287
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 2: by fake because they had blown up credentials. Correct, there

1288
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 2: was some blown up credential guys, all right, There was some.

1289
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 2: There was some weekend warriors. Uh. Remember that guy who

1290
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 2: fought in the wife Beater. He had the mullet from Canada,

1291
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 2: Harold Howard Morgan or whatever, and.

1292
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:17,439
Speaker 1: He would he had the rolling thunder kick.

1293
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 2: If you're gonna come on, we got to sing in Canada,

1294
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 2: you're gonna come out, come on, brother? All right? I

1295
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 2: don't know about Volkanowski. Now, didn't we see in the

1296
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 2: in the what was the movie that followed Hoys's brother

1297
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:32,959
Speaker 2: through the through the.

1298
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 1: Japant Oh the Hicks and documentary.

1299
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there was a little guy. How little was

1300
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 2: that guy who was having those fights? No, no, the

1301
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 2: little the little Asian guy who was in Hickson's tournaments

1302
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 2: or not Hickson.

1303
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 1: I've forgotten. I've forgotten.

1304
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 2: All right, this is evolving into that guy. The other guy. No,

1305
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 2: the other guy, the brother, No, the other the other.

1306
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say.

1307
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 2: I say Habib. Can I stop at Habib?

1308
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 1: I think and again, if if there wasn't some of

1309
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 1: the big sumo guy, I would even say Volkanovsky could

1310
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 1: do it. But just the ability to reach somebody like

1311
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 1: who's six seven or something, that's gonna be hard. But

1312
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 1: Volkanovsky is a possibility I think could be was a lock.

1313
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 2: Then again, bj Penn. I know he didn't beat Machiedah,

1314
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 2: but he competed at an early time and was competitive.

1315
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 2: I mean, Tony Ferguson, I'd take I'd basically level it

1316
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 2: out at super elite lightweights.

1317
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with that. Okay, we go next to

1318
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what this one is. I'll put it

1319
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 1: up on the screen ood player eighty eight. Which one

1320
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 1: you'll pick between these two alternate fight careers, uninjured Kane

1321
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 1: Velaskaz or uninjured Dom Cruse, which one would have had

1322
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 1: a more impact on MMA BC. It's got to be

1323
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 1: uninjured Kane Velaskas.

1324
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 2: Right, absolutely, because the competition at heavyweight, the skill in

1325
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 2: cardio level, the advantages that he had over the field.

1326
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 2: That's my great lament. We've been through this million times.

1327
01:00:56,680 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 2: But Cardio Kine, you know the guy, not sea level cardio. Okay,

1328
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 2: and excuse me that guy Luke is the eye test,

1329
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 2: the greatest heavyweight I've ever seen. He still is, He

1330
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 2: still is.

1331
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 1: Okay, that performance on brock Lessner UFC one twenty one,

1332
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 1: I don't think folks understand how big that was. That was.

1333
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 1: You could feel he took over MMA with that win.

1334
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 2: And I'm not going to sit here and excuse his

1335
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 2: loss to Verdom. He lost it and ver Doom's an

1336
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 2: all time great. But you certainly can excuse the JDS

1337
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 2: lost the first one because of the knee injury and

1338
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 2: how one sided the second and third fights where I

1339
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 2: would have loved Luke to have seen him run that

1340
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 2: table and even fight at you know, as Steepey was rising,

1341
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 2: I would have loved that fight. Yeah, that's the guy,

1342
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 2: Tom Cruise. You gotta give him so much credit for

1343
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 2: what he accomplished, you know, in and around all of

1344
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 2: those injuries, But I feel like the competition would have

1345
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 2: caught up with him eventually, correct.

1346
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 1: I mean, here's the thing, bantamweight. To me, the talent

1347
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 1: has passed Cruise by, which is no like slide on Cruise.

1348
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 1: You can't remain the top dog forever. Eventually you will slide,

1349
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 1: and that's just the way things go. So it to me,

1350
01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 1: it's a function of the inevitability that the ocean tide

1351
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 1: will always win. You can't fight it forever. That's the

1352
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 1: way I look at it. To me, you could take

1353
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 1: the heavyweight Kane Velasquez that beat brock Lesner, and I'd

1354
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 1: still put him to beat any heavyweight alive today. Would

1355
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 1: you agree? As you look at your phone?

1356
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, well yes, yeah, sorry, I was. I was teeing

1357
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 2: up the have you seen this ship so I don't

1358
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 2: fall behind when it's time.

1359
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 1: Dude, you not agree that that guy would still be very,

1360
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 1: if not the best heavyweight alive, very competitive with any

1361
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 1: heavyweight today, Like absolutely could beat anyone on his best day.

1362
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 2: He was he was ahead of his time and certain

1363
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 2: skill element that division too, including stamina. I mean he

1364
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 2: we you know, way ahead of his time. So yes,

1365
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 2: that guy, that guy beats him all I'd love. I'm

1366
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 2: a good, good guy, but I love to see prime

1367
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:44,920
Speaker 2: heavyweight DC against prime Kane. And you know, according to

1368
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 2: d C, Kane wins that every day of the week.

1369
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 2: But uh yeah, Kane's the guy. Send send all your

1370
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:51,920
Speaker 2: letters to Morning Combat at gmail dot com to complain.

1371
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 2: But Kane's the heavyweight guy all time. I'm sorry he is,

1372
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 2: and I.

1373
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 1: Remember, I'll never forget. After he beat brock Lesner. The

1374
01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 1: next headline on Monday was to Horn Labram from Caine

1375
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 1: torn rotator cuff, and I was like, oh yeah, buddy,

1376
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 1: you're gonna have some problems, and that was just the

1377
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 1: beginning of them.

1378
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 2: Okay, By the way, I still would have liked to

1379
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 2: see what it had looked like if if and Gano

1380
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 2: didn't get him in twenty four seconds. I know, you

1381
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 2: can't excuse that loss, right he got No, he got

1382
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 2: sent to hell, and I know his knee gave out too,

1383
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 2: But I again would have loved to see what that

1384
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 2: fight would have looked like. And he probably would have

1385
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 2: got a title shot if you want it. So it's

1386
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 2: it's wild, it's wild, all right, all right.

1387
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 1: We go to Liam O'Brien PC and they asked who

1388
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 1: is the better mythical fighter, speaking of which Sea Level Kane,

1389
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 1: trt V Tour patient Gai Chee or Gracie black Belt Deirandomy.

1390
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, Gracy black Belt Randomy is a force.

1391
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 2: And what's the end of the question up against next matchmaker?

1392
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 2: What the hell does that mean?

1393
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 1: No? No, no, no no. Uh they just ignore that la

1394
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 1: uh ignore that it's supposed to end at Derandomy. Just

1395
01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 1: they fucked this up. So who's the better TRTV Tour

1396
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 1: Patient Gae Chee or black Belt Random?

1397
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 2: The answer is trt belf it that superhero from twenty

1398
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 2: thirteen that chemically built an induced legend. I mean, look

1399
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 2: that twenty thirteen Vitor Bell for it is Barry Bonds

1400
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 2: in two thousand and one hitting seventy three home runs.

1401
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 2: That guy is a freak of friggin nature, and I

1402
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 2: love that he combined it with the freakin mohawk and

1403
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 2: the crazy look in his eyes. Luke, you can't there's

1404
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 2: not enough hyperbole for me to talk about how nasty

1405
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 2: those spinning knockouts were. Go back and watch the tape

1406
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 2: on the rock Hold one, Like, that's the tightest spin,

1407
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 2: Like if that was figure skating, that's like the tightest

1408
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 2: ass spin to land to strike that hard. And he

1409
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 2: did that against Dan Hendo, biz Ping and rock Hold.

1410
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 2: That's like the greatest year and miss. Look, we could

1411
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 2: do this one day. We could fill a whole podcast

1412
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 2: debating the greatest calendar years for one fighter in MMA history.

1413
01:04:57,040 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 2: Twenty thirteen, Juice to the Gills. Vitor Belf is my man.

1414
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 2: I will put him up against all your heroes and

1415
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 2: he will win.

1416
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm still gonna say sea level Kine. But the

1417
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 1: reason why is because v Tour was I mean, this

1418
01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 1: was proven he had super elevated levels of testosterone when

1419
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 1: he fought John Jones. It was actually documentation to this fact.

1420
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 1: And he still couldn't beat John Jones. So great that

1421
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 1: was the prime John Jones.

1422
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 2: He almost did, He almost did, Okay.

1423
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 1: He almost did. He fucked up his arm. Oh he

1424
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 1: still did this. Sea level Caine to me is I'm

1425
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 1: still gonna go with that, but I would if we

1426
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 1: had to make a power ranking, I would go sea

1427
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 1: level Kine one trt V to UR two and then

1428
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 1: probably patient Geychie three randomy four. You would go, what

1429
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 1: VT or one Kin two Geychi three randomy four?

1430
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 2: How about this? How about this twenty thirteen both healthy

1431
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:52,920
Speaker 2: matchup Monday, no drug testing mohawked belfour on TRT against Kane.

1432
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 2: I know you have to favor Kine, but I like

1433
01:05:56,320 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 2: the possibility that Vitor can catch him. All right, he looke,

1434
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 2: he was a he was a superhero. He was a cut.

1435
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 2: He was a laboratory creation.

1436
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 1: You're over as you're treating him like he was Bane

1437
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 1: from Batman, like he was one in there like a minuity.

1438
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 1: Believe me, I was, I was there. I'm simply telling you.

1439
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 1: First of all, he didn't have a mohawk. He had

1440
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 1: like five haircuts at once. He had like a mullet,

1441
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 1: a mohawk, like a faux hawk. In certain places. I

1442
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:26,440
Speaker 1: mean he had a lot going on over there.

1443
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 2: There were different time zones in different Yeah, there was

1444
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 2: a lot going on there.

1445
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 1: I agree he was very very much a force to

1446
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 1: be reckoned with. But still see Livelek gets my vote

1447
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 1: all right from Danny warn Erg. If you were a

1448
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 1: genetics mastermind, BC wanted to clone and raise the next

1449
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 1: best ever MMA world champion or movie villain, and could

1450
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 1: cross breed any two fighters. Whose DNA would you pick

1451
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:55,040
Speaker 1: and what discipline would you have? The toddler train and

1452
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 1: master at primary excuse me as a primary specialty?

1453
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 2: Now, cross it means like like right now, Maheta and

1454
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 2: Yani Kanitskay are a cross breeding.

1455
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 1: Right, that's right, they are sharing their genetics potentially. Uh

1456
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 1: under the.

1457
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 2: Scenario, we don't get to watch the crossbreed uh taking place? Okay, Uh,

1458
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 2: look this is this is this is interesting.

1459
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 1: You're gonna get us fired.

1460
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 2: Why don't you take it? Why don't you take it?

1461
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:26,080
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna say, I mean, just pick your specialties,

1462
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 1: right what if you you know, look at your pound

1463
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 1: for pounds. It's pretty simple, right. You could pick a

1464
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 1: Saint Pierre and then uh Atasania, or a Saint Pierre

1465
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 1: and Jones, or a Jones and Kobebe, or you know,

1466
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 1: Kobebe and u Volkanovsky, or you know, just pick.

1467
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 2: Sorry it's interrupt I assumed it was a female and

1468
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:45,919
Speaker 2: a male.

1469
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:49,520
Speaker 1: Luke, Why would you it's a genetics mastermind. You don't

1470
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 1: need to wait for people to fuck to get a baby,

1471
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:54,760
Speaker 1: just pull some DNA and make it in a laboratory

1472
01:07:55,160 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 1: d bag. BC's like, okay, who's fun. Let's make a list.

1473
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:04,960
Speaker 2: Is Rocco in this discussion at all of them?

1474
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 1: He's like, and fabricio ver doom. Let's see what happens.

1475
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:15,200
Speaker 2: The evan in Roco there it is all right, John

1476
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 2: Jones and Asa Akira. Let's see, let's see which way

1477
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 2: this goes. Yikes, all right, thank you for your questions.

1478
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:23,240
Speaker 1: People.

1479
01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 2: We got any more of these lucas.

1480
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 1: We got one more from Foxwidga. That's the real thing,

1481
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 1: foxwoodga nine zero one three. Can you imagine telling a

1482
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:35,840
Speaker 1: person at like a cocktail party for like LinkedIn, Hello,

1483
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:38,800
Speaker 1: what's your Instagram name? I'm foxwoodeen nine zero one three.

1484
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:42,120
Speaker 1: My email is Booty Eater sixty nine at gmail dot com.

1485
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:46,480
Speaker 1: Please I'd like this job anyway. They make MMA illegal.

1486
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 1: All fighters are sent to prison where each weight class

1487
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 1: is a gang. Due to an error, BC gets sent

1488
01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 1: into the women's prison. Which gang do you give yourself to?

1489
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 1: For sexual slavery slash protection? Luke, same question, but with

1490
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:07,639
Speaker 1: guy fighters, I gotta fuck the guys. Really, that doesn't

1491
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:08,719
Speaker 1: seem quite fair.

1492
01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 2: I don't even know if I understand the question, and

1493
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 2: my answer is still strawweight one one?

1494
01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:16,559
Speaker 1: All right, yeah, hol on. So they send all MMA

1495
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:19,720
Speaker 1: fighters to prison, and the gangs are essentially the weight

1496
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:23,799
Speaker 1: class you get sent to the women's uh you know, prison.

1497
01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 1: Who are you? Which? Which weight class? Which gang are

1498
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:28,679
Speaker 1: you in?

1499
01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:32,640
Speaker 2: Which everyone has Amanda unas right? I mean, so the

1500
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:35,240
Speaker 2: toughest fighters or what thirty five?

1501
01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:38,679
Speaker 1: I mean, if you gotta here's the thing. One fifteen

1502
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:41,680
Speaker 1: is pound for pound better, but Amanda Nuna is Yeah, no,

1503
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:44,000
Speaker 1: that's the queen Bee like you gotta you know what

1504
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,800
Speaker 1: I mean, Like, that's the protection I would want.

1505
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, this this is a weird question. Very weird question.

1506
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 2: Reminds me of a movie. I just rotched on Prime

1507
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:54,920
Speaker 2: Brawl and Cell Blocked.

1508
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 1: With Vince. You asked me about that already.

1509
01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:01,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, we would take it fun. That's a real fun flick. Okay,

1510
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 2: it's ridiculous, but yeah, all right, well I gotta I.

1511
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:08,719
Speaker 1: Gotta go with uh Jesus, which guys are like sexual

1512
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:10,679
Speaker 1: slaves too? For crying out loud.

1513
01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:12,720
Speaker 2: This is this I don't Yeah, this is this is

1514
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 2: getting weird.

1515
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:18,240
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna just say I don't know, but all

1516
01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 1: gangs in prison are sorted by race.

1517
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:23,240
Speaker 2: Uh, okay, is your roommate? Is your roommate war machine?

1518
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:23,760
Speaker 1: Or what is?

1519
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:24,760
Speaker 2: How far are we going with this?

1520
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:28,719
Speaker 1: Yeah? Fuck that. I don't care to do this anymore.

1521
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:31,439
Speaker 1: All right, you got to go the women's prison fuck UBC.

1522
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:33,760
Speaker 1: All right with that in mind, sir, Well, you know

1523
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:36,559
Speaker 1: what they always set to us up BC with the

1524
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 1: weirdest question leading into the weirdest segments. So, sir, the

1525
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 1: reins of the show were yours.

1526
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:42,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what we do in these parts? Jay,

1527
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:44,639
Speaker 2: can you hit me with hit me with the horns? Money?

1528
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 2: Thank you? We scarar the globe each week for the

1529
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:49,479
Speaker 2: highs and lows, the in betweens. Luke, it's have you

1530
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:53,960
Speaker 2: seen check this out? It is women's strawweights. Check out

1531
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 2: Luma luboon me here against jen U Fry Luke, her

1532
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 2: Ty Clinch was sick. Look at the elbows, the slicing forearms.

1533
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 2: That was a vicious performance.

1534
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:07,240
Speaker 1: She's a beast and apparently like you know, this was

1535
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:10,320
Speaker 1: like she was like a really decorated tie fighter for

1536
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:12,720
Speaker 1: you know, on the women's side, and you know, you

1537
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 1: can just see the difference. They're strong in the clinch man.

1538
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:18,120
Speaker 1: They got great elbows there. And by the way, like Fry,

1539
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:20,559
Speaker 1: you ever seen her? I interviewed her in person. I'm

1540
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:23,360
Speaker 1: surprised she never got into bodybuilding. She has the perfect

1541
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 1: genetics sport. She is bricked up and you could still

1542
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 1: see her struggling to deal with what this tie badass

1543
01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:30,760
Speaker 1: could do.

1544
01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd be her Joe roommate. I guess under that

1545
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:35,720
Speaker 2: last weird quest Yeah, no share, but that was a

1546
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:38,600
Speaker 2: nice victory from lubun me. There very very good in

1547
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 2: the clips. Let's roll on here and I want to

1548
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:41,840
Speaker 2: give you a piece of beauty this weekend. A lot

1549
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:44,599
Speaker 2: of people passing this around from ACA one to twelve.

1550
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:47,680
Speaker 2: It's ufc cast Off Magamed bib You.

1551
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 1: How do you pronounce bullet the bulletov?

1552
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:52,880
Speaker 2: The bulletov? So what happened here? He got cut and

1553
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 2: he's got he got cut off or.

1554
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:57,240
Speaker 1: He got released off of a win. I'm not sure

1555
01:11:57,240 --> 01:11:59,720
Speaker 1: why he is super close with Ramson cader Off. You

1556
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 1: can look at his instagram. You know he's the buddies

1557
01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 1: with him. But the dude can fight his ass off.

1558
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:05,200
Speaker 1: There's nothing there was a piece of beauty.

1559
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:07,720
Speaker 2: Look, this is spinny shit gone great. This is as

1560
01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 2: great of a knockout as we've seen. I mean, that's

1561
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:12,559
Speaker 2: just that's Terry, I mean Terry Adams style. Right, that's

1562
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:13,519
Speaker 2: just insane right there.

1563
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:15,880
Speaker 1: Let me just say one thing. This is an ACA,

1564
01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:18,240
Speaker 1: which is you know, they're pretty heavily affiliated with a

1565
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:21,320
Speaker 1: lot of the Chechens and the Dakistanis, and there's a

1566
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:24,080
Speaker 1: lot to not like about the politics here. It might

1567
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 1: be the second best promotion on Earth. It's it's they have,

1568
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:27,800
Speaker 1: they have a case to be made for it.

1569
01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:29,599
Speaker 2: Jay, can you play the next slide? We have another

1570
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:31,760
Speaker 2: angle of this, koj. It's just it's so good. You

1571
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:36,240
Speaker 2: gotta you know, you gotta see it twice. That is wow.

1572
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:38,799
Speaker 2: Have you seen someone again? Wow?

1573
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 1: I hope you got a good Dennis player.

1574
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 2: Oh wow, Like I always say, like in WW, the

1575
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:46,479
Speaker 2: floor should just open up and there's a coffin just

1576
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:51,679
Speaker 2: waiting there. Look that guy is ready. That is crazy. Wow. Yes, yes,

1577
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:55,320
Speaker 2: all right. Speaking of head kicks, check out this victory.

1578
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 2: Shout out to the one armed man. This is not

1579
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:01,280
Speaker 2: the fugitive. I don't know what corp, what fight promotion

1580
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 2: book this, Luke, but shout out to this guy.

1581
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:06,559
Speaker 1: Dude is this like Nick Nowle's acolyte.

1582
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:09,280
Speaker 2: Yes spinning ahead kick Ko and he's in the pink

1583
01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 2: tighty the pink tities on top of that, Luke, you lost.

1584
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:15,599
Speaker 1: This guy lost to an overweight, pink tidied one arm guy.

1585
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:17,800
Speaker 1: But you know what, that dude in the pink with

1586
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 1: the one arm, you know, he's been bullied for so long,

1587
01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 1: he's actually probably some decent knuckle game.

1588
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like it's on the up and up.

1589
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 2: It's a clean kick. I mean, wow, Yeah, that's that's

1590
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:30,559
Speaker 2: shout out to that guy. He's an inspiration, Luke to

1591
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:34,120
Speaker 2: all people. Thank you. All right, Hey, Luke, do you

1592
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 2: remember when Canelo Alvarez started getting weird tattoos on the

1593
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:38,880
Speaker 2: inside of his left arm and then he got his

1594
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:42,479
Speaker 2: wife's eyes on the outside of it. Uh, your thoughts

1595
01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 2: on that real quick?

1596
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 1: Tattoos are bad?

1597
01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:50,559
Speaker 2: Just all right? Well, speaking of that, the Great Mike Perry,

1598
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:53,559
Speaker 2: the UFC Walter Waite has taken this to the next level.

1599
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:57,320
Speaker 2: Not surprising, Coach Latorre's name is now tattooed on the

1600
01:13:57,360 --> 01:14:00,240
Speaker 2: inside of his bottom lip. She is carrying his child

1601
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 2: and is staying active on Twitter working out on Instagram.

1602
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:07,840
Speaker 2: So your thoughts on this level of dedication and love

1603
01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:08,920
Speaker 2: from Mike Perry.

1604
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 1: Very on Brand. I'm not sure what to say. That is,

1605
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 1: you know, trying to get him to be like, would

1606
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:19,559
Speaker 1: you ever regret getting this? That is not an answer

1607
01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:22,600
Speaker 1: you're going to get from him. It's not going to work. No.

1608
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:25,719
Speaker 2: I would like to do that question over the phone only, Luke, Okay,

1609
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:27,800
Speaker 2: I don't want him knowing my face. Yes, thank you?

1610
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:30,120
Speaker 2: All right, let's roll on here. You know who's been

1611
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:32,240
Speaker 2: hitting us up a lot lately, Scott Marshall, one of

1612
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:35,519
Speaker 2: our viewers at Anya Barrie. Look at this video from

1613
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:38,000
Speaker 2: The Dark Knight that he put together for this segment.

1614
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:41,439
Speaker 2: Have you seen this shit? Luke very on Brand. Luke,

1615
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:46,200
Speaker 2: there's you. Okay, here's me presenting the Ish as the joker.

1616
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:49,559
Speaker 1: But that's not even the good one because he doesn't

1617
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:51,560
Speaker 1: kill him in this scene. It's the other scene.

1618
01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 2: Yes, thank you please. As always, the people sending in

1619
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:57,720
Speaker 2: their creations right there. Not everybody can be webscreen, but

1620
01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:00,400
Speaker 2: we sure do all try. We get another great viewer

1621
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:05,360
Speaker 2: at Bourbon and Memes on Instagram, he asked, look, apparently

1622
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:08,360
Speaker 2: things got weird between between BC and Luke in the

1623
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 2: hotel room. Here's our offspring, Luke twenty something years later,

1624
01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:13,840
Speaker 2: after room service diaries.

1625
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 1: That kid is amazing. Look at this guy. Make him.

1626
01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 1: Why isn't he running for president? I'd vote for him.

1627
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:24,719
Speaker 2: I think we go to the same barber. This is great.

1628
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:26,920
Speaker 2: I don't really know what's happening here. Look at that belt.

1629
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:28,160
Speaker 2: It's made out of a paper plate.

1630
01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:31,000
Speaker 1: But uh, that is great. I love this guy. He's amazing.

1631
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 2: All right, Hey, let's go on here, Luke. You love

1632
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:37,639
Speaker 2: human on or animal on human violence? We know cows

1633
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 2: eat grass, Luke, Look at this guy tossing a salad?

1634
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 2: What is going on here?

1635
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:47,640
Speaker 1: I'm I'm very jealous of this cow. I don't think

1636
01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:51,600
Speaker 1: I've ever said that before in your life. Have you

1637
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:53,280
Speaker 1: ever said you were jealous of a cow?

1638
01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:56,280
Speaker 2: No? No, he's but he's going for it. He is

1639
01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:57,120
Speaker 2: going for.

1640
01:15:57,120 --> 01:15:58,679
Speaker 1: It, right, God bless this animal.

1641
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:01,120
Speaker 2: Well, the first thing I'll make them do is toss

1642
01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:04,680
Speaker 2: my salad with jelly or maple syrup. Thank you, thank you,

1643
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:08,320
Speaker 2: thank you. Okay, let's roll on here, Luke. Marriage proposal time.

1644
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 2: Look at this. It's romantic. It's two boats, Luke. You

1645
01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:16,360
Speaker 2: put them two boats together. You present the ring. She's touched.

1646
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:19,280
Speaker 2: Look at this, Luke, but then you lean on the

1647
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:28,880
Speaker 2: gas pedal by accident? Noscow is planned there?

1648
01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:31,479
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not rich enough to own a boat.

1649
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:33,400
Speaker 1: Do they have like a park? Could you put it

1650
01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:34,160
Speaker 1: in a park, you know.

1651
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:36,599
Speaker 2: Like an e break? Yeah, whatever it was, they didn't.

1652
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:38,519
Speaker 2: She had to crash into something. I mean, she took

1653
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:39,120
Speaker 2: off right there.

1654
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:42,639
Speaker 1: That is that, and she took him with it. I'm like, dude,

1655
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 1: this is a metaphor for your future. Oh, she kicked him.

1656
01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:50,679
Speaker 2: Right where she's standing. There's a throttle and her hand

1657
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:53,479
Speaker 2: is basically on it, so the boat's a neutral right now.

1658
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 2: And then she leans on the throttle. And by of

1659
01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:58,080
Speaker 2: course Jay would know how to how to operate a boat.

1660
01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:02,320
Speaker 2: Here ooh, he's very independently wealthy as a successful and

1661
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 2: award winning director.

1662
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:04,280
Speaker 1: People don't realize that.

1663
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:05,560
Speaker 2: All right, Hey, let's roll on.

1664
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:08,479
Speaker 1: Look at I got all those all those no escape

1665
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:11,320
Speaker 1: royalty checks, damn right.

1666
01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 2: Or or maybe the uh, the non disclosure agreement he

1667
01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:18,280
Speaker 2: signed after that with Rod Johnson. All right, Jay, yep,

1668
01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:20,320
Speaker 2: we're just having fun here, Jay, a little footy for

1669
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 2: you this week, Luke. Check out this guy Barrera bardeda

1670
01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 2: from the USL. Have you seen this scorpion kick goal.

1671
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:29,559
Speaker 2: This is some good stuff. Max Bretto's serving it up

1672
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:30,160
Speaker 2: on the twits.

1673
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:36,720
Speaker 1: Boh, yeahs USL is low level trash. But that's a

1674
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:37,840
Speaker 1: nice little highlight there.

1675
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:39,639
Speaker 2: Like, are you telling me you could get in shape

1676
01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:42,080
Speaker 2: for a year and like make that make the USLS

1677
01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 2: a defens.

1678
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:45,200
Speaker 1: No, I'm telling you that soccer is so difficult that

1679
01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 1: these guys would be better than we ever would and

1680
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 1: they're still shitty compared to like the rest of the world.

1681
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:52,719
Speaker 2: This is best less though.

1682
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:55,679
Speaker 1: This is less than MLS, just to give put in perspective.

1683
01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 2: Well, speaking of footy, here check out this kick saved

1684
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:02,000
Speaker 2: by this guy. He's got the groceries, they're leaving the establishment,

1685
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 2: but the toilet paper falls kick saving a beauty.

1686
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:09,640
Speaker 1: Oh man, if he didn't get a hummer for that,

1687
01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:12,400
Speaker 1: that is unbelievable. If he didn't get one, call me,

1688
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:13,280
Speaker 1: I'll give him one.

1689
01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 2: Well, you have plenty of cleaning solutions in their arms

1690
01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:17,360
Speaker 2: for that.

1691
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:21,559
Speaker 1: So that's great there, that is unbelievable. That is great.

1692
01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:25,439
Speaker 2: Let's take it to the streets. Street fight of the week.

1693
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:28,519
Speaker 2: Here's spinny shit gone from bad to good. Luke and

1694
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:33,280
Speaker 2: I'm not talking about the matchbox. First of all, he's

1695
01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:37,360
Speaker 2: wearing a pink shirt. Oh see the video, it doesn't

1696
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:39,519
Speaker 2: play the full length, so he kind of slips on

1697
01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:42,439
Speaker 2: his first spin attempt, but then he lines it up, Luke,

1698
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:45,400
Speaker 2: and he tells sends that old guy to hell at

1699
01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:48,320
Speaker 2: the Is that florencea Normandy right there? Where are we?

1700
01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:50,639
Speaker 1: I don't know? But this elder abuse I can get

1701
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:51,720
Speaker 1: behind this.

1702
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:55,599
Speaker 2: Is this has gonna be? Is that a morning combats

1703
01:18:55,720 --> 01:19:02,599
Speaker 2: shirt he's wearing? Oh wow, yeah, Luke? As an adult,

1704
01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 2: all right, you're not looking to go third world on anybody, right,

1705
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:07,880
Speaker 2: you're a professional. Everyone's got cell phone camps. But if

1706
01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:11,760
Speaker 2: it happened, if somebody disrespected your your your wife in

1707
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:15,000
Speaker 2: public on the streets of DC, would you consider this

1708
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:17,840
Speaker 2: the the the Barbosa on Adams spinny shit?

1709
01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:21,120
Speaker 1: Would you? Uh?

1710
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:23,200
Speaker 2: Could you lift your leg above your knee level?

1711
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:25,439
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, I mean well I couldn't do this, but

1712
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:30,000
Speaker 1: you know, would I would? I tolerate this level of violence,

1713
01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:32,800
Speaker 1: you know, because he didn't like hurt him too bad? Bah,

1714
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 1: his head doesn't really like smack the ground. Yes, I

1715
01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:37,439
Speaker 1: would tolerate this, all right.

1716
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:38,080
Speaker 2: That's a lot of pink.

1717
01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:38,719
Speaker 1: That guy's wearing.

1718
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:41,000
Speaker 2: Shout out to him. Let's go on. Speaking of public

1719
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:42,840
Speaker 2: fighting and spinning everyone.

1720
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 1: Everyone you've shown with pink during this have you seen

1721
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:47,120
Speaker 1: this shit has fucked up the other guy?

1722
01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:49,680
Speaker 2: That's true. Check out this road rage incident. This guy

1723
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 2: in the BFW, he just spit at the suv, Luke,

1724
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:56,600
Speaker 2: and he casually walks away. It's revenge time. But that

1725
01:19:56,760 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 2: spinny stuff gone wrong, Luke, yikes.

1726
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:06,559
Speaker 1: Dude, and he rolled the window down. Don't do this shit, man,

1727
01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:08,120
Speaker 1: so he got to.

1728
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:12,920
Speaker 2: Spit on and he got flipped. Luke. Yikes.

1729
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:15,960
Speaker 1: Bro, I tell people stay the fuck in your car.

1730
01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:20,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, don't. Yeah, unless you have third world skills

1731
01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:23,559
Speaker 2: and a pensiant for for violence there and death, don't

1732
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:26,639
Speaker 2: just don't mess. There's too many people. You can't cross

1733
01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:28,640
Speaker 2: people anymore, Luke. You know, back in the day you

1734
01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:30,320
Speaker 2: could get in a good fistfight on the side of

1735
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:30,719
Speaker 2: the road.

1736
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:35,000
Speaker 1: Now they'll kill you. Yeah, don't be doing that. No. Yeah,

1737
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:36,800
Speaker 1: this is a lesson and you are not who you

1738
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:39,080
Speaker 1: think you are, all right.

1739
01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:41,639
Speaker 2: Check out this hidden camera pick up here in a bar, Luke.

1740
01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:43,600
Speaker 2: This is everyone's dream, right, didn't we learn that in

1741
01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:49,360
Speaker 2: office space? Luke two at one time. What is happening here?

1742
01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:51,040
Speaker 1: Dude? What is that like?

1743
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:55,639
Speaker 2: Yeah? That guy? Uh, that guy's like twenty thirteen bell

1744
01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:57,360
Speaker 2: for it there. It just needs a mohawk. He's living,

1745
01:20:57,400 --> 01:20:57,720
Speaker 2: he is.

1746
01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:00,799
Speaker 1: Luke, Dude, that much be fun?

1747
01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:02,720
Speaker 2: Oh wow? Right?

1748
01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 1: And how many times how many times as you go

1749
01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:05,439
Speaker 1: to the bar and this happened to you?

1750
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:09,880
Speaker 2: BC, I've seen a movie start off this.

1751
01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:14,280
Speaker 1: Alright, Wow, good for him?

1752
01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:16,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, shout out to that guy. We gotta, we

1753
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:18,840
Speaker 2: gotta Sometimes you just gotta take the l in life

1754
01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:21,519
Speaker 2: and and and salute those who are who are winning.

1755
01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:23,720
Speaker 2: So sir, we we do, we do pass that on

1756
01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:24,160
Speaker 2: to you.

1757
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to send the guy a shot.

1758
01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:29,679
Speaker 2: Luke. You got all kinds of angry and up tight

1759
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:32,320
Speaker 2: on the Morning Combat set in the in the Mohegan

1760
01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:34,880
Speaker 2: bubble that I almost broke that table because I was

1761
01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:38,960
Speaker 2: so passionate about Charlo Rosario. Check out the passion from

1762
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:41,280
Speaker 2: this TV segment here. I don't know what country this is,

1763
01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:44,479
Speaker 2: but hopefully they're Armenian. Luke, to shout out your folks, Uh,

1764
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:47,519
Speaker 2: a dispute breaks out and watch out for the table.

1765
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:52,720
Speaker 2: Look tables, sliders and chairs. That's about as well made

1766
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:53,840
Speaker 2: as the Morning Combat table.

1767
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 1: Let me tell you, as someone whose mother is from

1768
01:21:57,040 --> 01:21:59,480
Speaker 1: the Middle East, this has to be Middle Eastern.

1769
01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:03,720
Speaker 2: This, this is this is tea time in Doha, Luke,

1770
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:05,760
Speaker 2: this is like this is regular tuesdays, you know what?

1771
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:08,240
Speaker 1: Bas Based on what I see in the background, it

1772
01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 1: looks like it's Jordan. Looks like it's Jordanian. I could

1773
01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:15,160
Speaker 1: be wrong about that. Look I you know, if you

1774
01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:17,720
Speaker 1: which would be very on brand. Haven't you seen like

1775
01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:20,360
Speaker 1: all these other parliaments and it's like, you know, they're

1776
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:23,400
Speaker 1: trying to model American democracy and then half the time

1777
01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:26,080
Speaker 1: it's just like fifty It's like it's like a roving

1778
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:30,240
Speaker 1: gang of football hoodlums fighting each other over like tax

1779
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:33,200
Speaker 1: increases or some shit. This is very on brand, honestly,

1780
01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:36,200
Speaker 1: I honestly would you. I would have much rather seen

1781
01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:37,800
Speaker 1: Biden and Trump do some ship like this.

1782
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:40,880
Speaker 2: Right, Oh yeah, we were. It looked like we were

1783
01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:42,960
Speaker 2: close there. It looked like we were getting there, Luke. Okay,

1784
01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:46,400
Speaker 2: all right, so stand stand stand back, stand ready, here

1785
01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:49,120
Speaker 2: we go. Let's roll on here, Luke. Skateboarding, I don't

1786
01:22:49,120 --> 01:22:50,760
Speaker 2: mess with it because there's so many injuries you can

1787
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:53,559
Speaker 2: have happen like check this check out, Luke. Here all right,

1788
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:58,320
Speaker 2: it's like like swiping the credit card at the h

1789
01:22:58,600 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 2: at the self register.

1790
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:04,519
Speaker 1: Luke, it's like the Nelly tip drill video.

1791
01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:10,080
Speaker 2: Oh god, all right, let's go away from videos. They

1792
01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:12,720
Speaker 2: say a picture is worth a thousand words, Luke, how

1793
01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:14,479
Speaker 2: about you share a few words on this one.

1794
01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:18,640
Speaker 1: I bet she's fun to party with. I wouldn't take

1795
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:22,120
Speaker 1: her home to mom, but uh, I might have a

1796
01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:23,040
Speaker 1: couple of beers with her.

1797
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:27,639
Speaker 2: Yeah right there with Yeah, let's go to awful haircuts, Luke.

1798
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:27,960
Speaker 1: Uh.

1799
01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:31,559
Speaker 2: They say that everyone else is playing checkers, this guy's

1800
01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:32,519
Speaker 2: playing chess, Luke.

1801
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:38,120
Speaker 1: Uh. Can imagine walking into the barber and it's like,

1802
01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:40,600
Speaker 1: I want you to give me something super intricate that

1803
01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:43,400
Speaker 1: will guarantee I never get laid again. As the barber's

1804
01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:47,360
Speaker 1: like say no more, fam Oh.

1805
01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:49,639
Speaker 2: Wow, all right, let's do a little old school tip

1806
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:52,040
Speaker 2: to tip. Check this picture. I remember Bradley Newell said

1807
01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:55,559
Speaker 2: f in fighting. It's all the same, Luke. That's tip

1808
01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:56,000
Speaker 2: on tip.

1809
01:23:56,040 --> 01:23:56,240
Speaker 1: Brother.

1810
01:23:56,280 --> 01:23:57,679
Speaker 2: I don't know what's happening right here.

1811
01:23:58,800 --> 01:23:59,759
Speaker 1: Clinch break drills.

1812
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:04,519
Speaker 2: I yes, yikes, all right, that is great. And to

1813
01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 2: close on the picture segment, Uh, this look at a

1814
01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:10,760
Speaker 2: Boila this old Lake got look at the unit on

1815
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:12,800
Speaker 2: a Bueila hair. You gotta be careful, Luke, how you

1816
01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:15,680
Speaker 2: hold that stuff? Oh?

1817
01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:19,000
Speaker 1: And bro, you insult her? You insult her? Achiakio, She'll

1818
01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:20,960
Speaker 1: beat you over the fucking head with it too. Don't

1819
01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:24,439
Speaker 1: think she won't. By the way, VP of have you

1820
01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 1: seen this show?

1821
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:27,880
Speaker 2: MVP? As always, speaking of Bla Luke, let's check in

1822
01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:30,240
Speaker 2: on her. Look, if you're gonna go to the sporting

1823
01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:32,760
Speaker 2: event on February first, don't don't be on your cell

1824
01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:34,759
Speaker 2: phone during an NBA game, please, I mean.

1825
01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:41,320
Speaker 1: Just Boh.

1826
01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:43,280
Speaker 2: What do you think they were looking at too? Do

1827
01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:45,639
Speaker 2: you think they were on Pinterest looking at Karen's curtains?

1828
01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:49,960
Speaker 1: What's going? Wow? Yeah, dude, they were. They were definitely

1829
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:53,240
Speaker 1: on Etsy critiquing one of their neighbor shops.

1830
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:59,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, This is y fow. All right, we close

1831
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:03,439
Speaker 2: with this, Luke. We have an Instagram viewer at at

1832
01:25:03,479 --> 01:25:09,280
Speaker 2: you's bite year Uh, Luke, He's come up with his

1833
01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:12,879
Speaker 2: own MK poster Pound sand with Luke Thomas and Brian Campbell.

1834
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:15,880
Speaker 2: And that is Connor McGregor ready to throw a a

1835
01:25:15,960 --> 01:25:18,880
Speaker 2: ground and pound down. Is that tattooin right there, Luke,

1836
01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:19,680
Speaker 2: I like this, I like this.

1837
01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:21,920
Speaker 1: I'm not sure you know. The first time I heard

1838
01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:24,559
Speaker 1: pound sand, I was like, what the hell does that

1839
01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:26,479
Speaker 1: even supposed to mean? And the guy who told me

1840
01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:29,720
Speaker 1: goes you ever pounded sand before? I'm like no, He's like,

1841
01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:33,920
Speaker 1: try it, you won't get anywhere. I'm like, okay, that

1842
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:35,000
Speaker 1: sounds about right.

1843
01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:38,439
Speaker 2: Here is your Marines instructor, Luke, your drill sergeant.

1844
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:41,920
Speaker 1: Drill sergeants. Drill sergeants are in the Army. Drill instructors

1845
01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:42,760
Speaker 1: are in the Marine Corps.

1846
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:44,639
Speaker 2: Get it right now, There's no such thing as an

1847
01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:49,400
Speaker 2: ex Marines drill instructor. Yes, yes, very good.

1848
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 1: Is that it all we got?

1849
01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:53,200
Speaker 2: All right, you've seen you've seen it all, Luke. Let

1850
01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:54,880
Speaker 2: me get let me scratch this ch all right, go

1851
01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:55,120
Speaker 2: for it?

1852
01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:56,880
Speaker 1: All right? With that in mind, good sir, it is

1853
01:25:56,880 --> 01:25:58,959
Speaker 1: time for odds and ends. What do you got for us?

1854
01:25:59,640 --> 01:26:02,360
Speaker 2: Hey, Canelo Alvarez? Remember we saw that report that came

1855
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:04,360
Speaker 2: out of the Athletic that de Zone was looking to

1856
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:08,200
Speaker 2: not pay its thirty five million per fight guarantee to

1857
01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:10,080
Speaker 2: him but offer him a middle of the road. Hey,

1858
01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:12,559
Speaker 2: we'll pay you twenty per fight. We were wondering if

1859
01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:14,559
Speaker 2: he was gonna accept that. It looks like he's not, Luke.

1860
01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:19,759
Speaker 2: As he refiled his lawsuit in California court against Oscar

1861
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:22,639
Speaker 2: Golden Boy de Zone. The first time around, he had

1862
01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:27,160
Speaker 2: screwed up the location. There's some kind of legal mumbo jumbo,

1863
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:29,680
Speaker 2: but the lawsuit is back on. And I don't know

1864
01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:31,479
Speaker 2: if you saw that tweet. I think you did. You

1865
01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:34,519
Speaker 2: retweeted it from John Nash, who kind of dug through it,

1866
01:26:34,840 --> 01:26:36,680
Speaker 2: and it looks like one of the major points of

1867
01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:40,280
Speaker 2: contention for Canelo is that Golden Boy was so public

1868
01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:43,240
Speaker 2: in announcing and parading his salary and what he was

1869
01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:45,559
Speaker 2: guaranteed from de Zone for each fight. And what that

1870
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:48,839
Speaker 2: did was it was tough finding any opponents for Canelo

1871
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:51,599
Speaker 2: because every single person was trying to ask for five

1872
01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:54,000
Speaker 2: ten times the amount that they, you know, would normally

1873
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:58,040
Speaker 2: or deserve in this circumstance. You know whatever, on that, Luke,

1874
01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:01,040
Speaker 2: but this is back on. I don't know how this

1875
01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:04,519
Speaker 2: is gonna end, but this guy's gonna be a pretty

1876
01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:06,960
Speaker 2: big ass free agent in the box game, all right.

1877
01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:09,559
Speaker 2: If this ends poorly, or you know, if we have

1878
01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:12,160
Speaker 2: to go through a long, long process to get there.

1879
01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:15,280
Speaker 2: Could you imagine the fights you could make elsewhere with Canelo?

1880
01:27:15,320 --> 01:27:17,120
Speaker 2: And I think he's almost really getting to the point

1881
01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:20,920
Speaker 2: where he kind of should just piecemeal himself at this point, right,

1882
01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:23,160
Speaker 2: fight on any network he wants. When you're at that

1883
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:26,400
Speaker 2: Floyd level, right, you should be able to just sort

1884
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:29,200
Speaker 2: of call your shots. I actually hope Canelo gets that

1885
01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:32,920
Speaker 2: because Luke, he's always willing to fight the best. Let's

1886
01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:34,759
Speaker 2: see him fight the best always.

1887
01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:37,840
Speaker 1: Fine, he needs somebody, I don't care what anyone else says.

1888
01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:40,680
Speaker 1: He needs somebody, and we work for showtime. You know,

1889
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:43,080
Speaker 1: maybe goes to top rank, Who the hell knows wherever

1890
01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:45,120
Speaker 1: he goes. If he doesn't end up working out with

1891
01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:47,519
Speaker 1: his own, he needs to go to a place that's

1892
01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:50,479
Speaker 1: not gonna make him wait for his main event when

1893
01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:54,280
Speaker 1: the UFC show finishes. Right, it's not just the tactics

1894
01:27:54,280 --> 01:27:57,040
Speaker 1: of that, it's the symbolism of it all.

1895
01:27:57,160 --> 01:27:59,200
Speaker 2: You never recover him from that. That's a sin you

1896
01:27:59,240 --> 01:28:00,280
Speaker 2: cannot recover from.

1897
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Speaker 1: He needs to go to a place that's not going

1898
01:28:02,520 --> 01:28:04,599
Speaker 1: to do that to him. And I don't know if

1899
01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:05,800
Speaker 1: he's working out with his own or not. I mean,

1900
01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:07,800
Speaker 1: who the hell knows, right, I mean, court battles are

1901
01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:11,360
Speaker 1: just impossible to predict. But I tend to think you're right.

1902
01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:13,080
Speaker 1: He could call his own shots, and he needs to

1903
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:14,920
Speaker 1: be in a place that understands he can do that

1904
01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:16,600
Speaker 1: and then treats him like the kind of guy that

1905
01:28:16,640 --> 01:28:20,639
Speaker 1: he is. So we'll see, all right for my odds

1906
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:23,719
Speaker 1: and NSBC, we did have a belotoar over the weekend.

1907
01:28:23,720 --> 01:28:27,920
Speaker 1: We had briefly previewed it on Friday's show and it

1908
01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:31,000
Speaker 1: was a main event. James Gallaher getting back to action

1909
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:36,360
Speaker 1: against cal Eleanor. Well, James Gallaher made absolutely short work

1910
01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:39,320
Speaker 1: of him, winning via submission in the first round. And basically,

1911
01:28:39,400 --> 01:28:42,000
Speaker 1: here's the deal. Cal Eleanor, I thought was a decent

1912
01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:46,639
Speaker 1: international class fighter. He got run over in this one.

1913
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:50,200
Speaker 1: It was not close in any dimension. Gallaher did exactly

1914
01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:51,719
Speaker 1: what he said he was going to do and everything

1915
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:54,639
Speaker 1: you thought that he could. And then some now after

1916
01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:57,439
Speaker 1: the fight he was like, I should get a title shot. Well,

1917
01:28:57,479 --> 01:28:59,640
Speaker 1: I don't know about all of that, but here's what

1918
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Speaker 1: I would say. He had that bad setback against Ricky Bandejas,

1919
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:07,120
Speaker 1: but he, to me, got the reset that Bellatore needed.

1920
01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:09,679
Speaker 1: Some of these guys, you know, they need a chance

1921
01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:11,680
Speaker 1: to just get a couple of gimme fights along the way.

1922
01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:13,240
Speaker 1: I don't think this was a gimme fight. I'm saying

1923
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Speaker 1: some of the other ones he might have had, and

1924
01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:17,439
Speaker 1: now is at a point where getting him back in

1925
01:29:17,479 --> 01:29:21,519
Speaker 1: that bantamweight title mix where he fights somebody ranked moves

1926
01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:24,320
Speaker 1: his way up on an American show, a big you know,

1927
01:29:24,439 --> 01:29:27,240
Speaker 1: maybef not a headlining spot, comine events spot, something where

1928
01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:29,640
Speaker 1: he's a little bit more visible than just to the

1929
01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:32,360
Speaker 1: European audiences. I know that this aired on CBA Sportsnet,

1930
01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 1: but what I mean is a show that takes place,

1931
01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:36,920
Speaker 1: you know, at the SAP Center in San Jose, and

1932
01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:39,280
Speaker 1: Scott Cooker's doing big media days. He's got a big

1933
01:29:39,360 --> 01:29:42,320
Speaker 1: name opponent that stateside fans know who he is as well.

1934
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:45,959
Speaker 1: Something like that. It's not just that he has earned it.

1935
01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:48,280
Speaker 1: It kind of only makes sense at this point because

1936
01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:51,000
Speaker 1: he's too good for the level he's been at. The

1937
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:54,000
Speaker 1: reset is over, it's done with. It's time to march

1938
01:29:54,040 --> 01:29:56,479
Speaker 1: forward back into the top of bantamweight division. I think,

1939
01:29:56,520 --> 01:29:57,280
Speaker 1: see what he can do.

1940
01:29:57,760 --> 01:29:59,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's four wins in a row, three by submits,

1941
01:30:00,240 --> 01:30:02,160
Speaker 2: and Luke his ground game was really on point. In

1942
01:30:02,200 --> 01:30:05,479
Speaker 2: this one, he's looking like he's he's got it figured out.

1943
01:30:05,560 --> 01:30:08,880
Speaker 2: So yeah, title shot next. No, but let's continue to

1944
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:10,759
Speaker 2: build him the right way. And look, he's a marketable

1945
01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:13,720
Speaker 2: feature guy. He comes out like a badass. He's got

1946
01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:15,439
Speaker 2: a lot of Connor in him. So I don't think

1947
01:30:15,479 --> 01:30:17,920
Speaker 2: you run away from that if you're the promotion or him.

1948
01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:21,479
Speaker 2: Can we talk about Cal's tattoos though, Luke. He's so

1949
01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:24,240
Speaker 2: he's got the tattoo on tatte but it extends up

1950
01:30:24,280 --> 01:30:26,400
Speaker 2: the neck all the way up to where it's like

1951
01:30:26,439 --> 01:30:32,040
Speaker 2: a sideburn. He's got the tat sideburns that too.

1952
01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:36,479
Speaker 1: It's not for me, But you know, millennials love tattooing

1953
01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:38,680
Speaker 1: their face. I don't quite understand it. It's a thing

1954
01:30:38,720 --> 01:30:39,200
Speaker 1: that they do.

1955
01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:42,599
Speaker 2: I could see you with a tear drop right here, Luke,

1956
01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:43,360
Speaker 2: But I.

1957
01:30:43,320 --> 01:30:45,639
Speaker 1: Long maintain this BC. People disagree with me. Let's see

1958
01:30:45,640 --> 01:30:48,519
Speaker 1: where you're at on this. People say MMA fighters have

1959
01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:50,479
Speaker 1: the worst tattoos, and let me let me just sort

1960
01:30:50,479 --> 01:30:53,479
Speaker 1: of olive branch a little bit here. I'm not opposed

1961
01:30:53,479 --> 01:30:56,000
Speaker 1: to the idea that that is true. What I'm saying

1962
01:30:56,120 --> 01:30:58,559
Speaker 1: is I have seen John Wall with his shirt off.

1963
01:30:59,080 --> 01:31:02,439
Speaker 1: John Wall's tatos are as bad, if not worse, than

1964
01:31:02,560 --> 01:31:07,040
Speaker 1: virtually every other MMA fighter. You don't see mm excuse me,

1965
01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:10,439
Speaker 1: you don't see NBA players quite as nakedly as you

1966
01:31:10,479 --> 01:31:13,120
Speaker 1: do MMA fighters. I think if you did, it would,

1967
01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:15,720
Speaker 1: at a bare minimum, be a much tougher claim to make.

1968
01:31:16,280 --> 01:31:18,479
Speaker 2: Are you trying to say and I'm not saying you're

1969
01:31:18,520 --> 01:31:21,000
Speaker 2: trying to say this as a racially negative but as

1970
01:31:21,040 --> 01:31:24,160
Speaker 2: a reality because the NBA players have darker skin, were

1971
01:31:24,200 --> 01:31:25,679
Speaker 2: not able to pick up as easily.

1972
01:31:26,160 --> 01:31:30,280
Speaker 1: H No, well no because here, no, no, because Eleanor

1973
01:31:30,400 --> 01:31:33,439
Speaker 1: is white, but he's got such dark colors. It all

1974
01:31:33,520 --> 01:31:34,920
Speaker 1: just looks like a jumbled mess. I don't mean that

1975
01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:36,639
Speaker 1: it looks like a mess. I mean if you actually

1976
01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:39,720
Speaker 1: just look at the tattoo, what quality is it? How

1977
01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:42,920
Speaker 1: much did this person pay for high level art? And

1978
01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:45,920
Speaker 1: if you go NBA fighter or NBA players, dude, they

1979
01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:48,639
Speaker 1: have really shitty taste when it comes to tattoos. They

1980
01:31:48,640 --> 01:31:51,679
Speaker 1: don't go to very good places. So I would argue, like,

1981
01:31:51,680 --> 01:31:54,080
Speaker 1: like TJ. Diltchhow I've ever seen his sleeve. His sleeve

1982
01:31:54,160 --> 01:31:57,960
Speaker 1: is like legitimate art, Megan Anderson, legitimate art. John Wall

1983
01:31:58,080 --> 01:32:01,120
Speaker 1: just has a friend who scribbled on him. Wow.

1984
01:32:01,439 --> 01:32:03,559
Speaker 2: Wow, Yeah, no, I'm with that. I mean, look, they

1985
01:32:03,800 --> 01:32:07,000
Speaker 2: MMA does have the worst tats since biker gangs. But yeah,

1986
01:32:07,040 --> 01:32:09,200
Speaker 2: there are some guys that am an NBA who need

1987
01:32:09,240 --> 01:32:12,000
Speaker 2: to be called out. And Luke, you're a hair guy

1988
01:32:12,040 --> 01:32:14,840
Speaker 2: at least, I mean, I've never seen you declothed and

1989
01:32:14,920 --> 01:32:17,320
Speaker 2: want to keep that going. But there was a guy

1990
01:32:17,360 --> 01:32:20,040
Speaker 2: he once knew who could make what he called the

1991
01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:23,320
Speaker 2: the bod stash. He would have a mustache, Luke, that

1992
01:32:23,400 --> 01:32:25,920
Speaker 2: would go down in a full neck beard that would

1993
01:32:25,960 --> 01:32:27,840
Speaker 2: go and connect with the chest here and be able

1994
01:32:27,880 --> 01:32:32,280
Speaker 2: to go all the way down Luke to the pelvic area.

1995
01:32:32,640 --> 01:32:35,280
Speaker 2: Do you have that ability through your armenium blood to

1996
01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:38,160
Speaker 2: have a bodstash? Would you be into that? Are you

1997
01:32:38,439 --> 01:32:39,320
Speaker 2: hiding one right now?

1998
01:32:40,080 --> 01:32:42,280
Speaker 1: I try to keep my wife happy. I don't think

1999
01:32:42,320 --> 01:32:45,320
Speaker 1: that's the thing I'm entertaining. Okay, you know what I'm saying.

2000
01:32:45,880 --> 01:32:47,320
Speaker 2: Shout out to missus Thomas, thank you.

2001
01:32:47,400 --> 01:32:49,920
Speaker 1: That's right, right, Obsen with the viewers have homework? What

2002
01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:50,240
Speaker 1: is it?

2003
01:32:51,720 --> 01:32:53,800
Speaker 2: So here's the deal. We don't really know what this

2004
01:32:53,840 --> 01:32:56,720
Speaker 2: segment's called, but yes, every Friday we are going to

2005
01:32:56,760 --> 01:32:59,080
Speaker 2: review a piece of art. Enjoy it. We are going

2006
01:32:59,120 --> 01:33:01,479
Speaker 2: to announce it on Monday to give you your time

2007
01:33:01,520 --> 01:33:03,719
Speaker 2: to handle it, and we kind of want to alternate.

2008
01:33:03,800 --> 01:33:06,320
Speaker 2: Luke picked last week he had me watch The Dark Knight.

2009
01:33:06,600 --> 01:33:08,720
Speaker 2: This week, I'm gonna pick maybe next week, Luke. We

2010
01:33:08,800 --> 01:33:11,559
Speaker 2: have the fans vote on a few choices here. But

2011
01:33:11,680 --> 01:33:15,200
Speaker 2: this week, look that fight, the boxing fight we talked

2012
01:33:15,240 --> 01:33:18,639
Speaker 2: about Ivan Branchik getting knocked out by Jose Zepeda. All

2013
01:33:18,680 --> 01:33:21,599
Speaker 2: it did was give me old school Prince Nasim vibes

2014
01:33:21,600 --> 01:33:25,320
Speaker 2: for his greatest fight, his mountaintop moment in that rise.

2015
01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:27,960
Speaker 2: So your homework this week, and you can find the

2016
01:33:27,960 --> 01:33:31,080
Speaker 2: full broadcast on YouTube, and please make sure you watch

2017
01:33:31,160 --> 01:33:34,519
Speaker 2: the full broadcast that has Prince Nasiem's entrance, because a

2018
01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:37,320
Speaker 2: lot of times that's as good as the fights. Nineteen

2019
01:33:37,400 --> 01:33:42,519
Speaker 2: ninety seven Madison Square Garden Featherweight Championship Prince Nasimhamed makes

2020
01:33:42,560 --> 01:33:46,879
Speaker 2: his US debut against Kevin Kelly, the big time Slugger

2021
01:33:47,200 --> 01:33:50,360
Speaker 2: and Luke. This is one of the most epic, knockdown,

2022
01:33:50,479 --> 01:33:53,599
Speaker 2: drag out, rock'm sock and robot type fights. Larry Merchant

2023
01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:56,919
Speaker 2: afterwards called it the haggler hearns of the featherweight division.

2024
01:33:57,600 --> 01:33:59,479
Speaker 2: It's a great time for us to just re examine

2025
01:33:59,520 --> 01:34:02,360
Speaker 2: all things that made Prince not seem such an incredible

2026
01:34:02,479 --> 01:34:05,519
Speaker 2: draw from the entrance to the postfight interview. This will

2027
01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:07,240
Speaker 2: be a fun little look back at a nice little

2028
01:34:07,240 --> 01:34:07,840
Speaker 2: piece of art there.

2029
01:34:08,479 --> 01:34:11,960
Speaker 1: And so Prince Nasim was years ago asked like, who

2030
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:14,760
Speaker 1: do you watch in boxing? Who do you pay attention to?

2031
01:34:14,800 --> 01:34:16,479
Speaker 1: And He's like, honestly, nobody, but I'll tell you who.

2032
01:34:16,479 --> 01:34:19,040
Speaker 1: I do have my eye on, Connor McGregor. You know,

2033
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:21,200
Speaker 1: Prince Nassim was not one of these guys who didn't

2034
01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:23,120
Speaker 1: understand a showman when he saw it because he had

2035
01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:25,880
Speaker 1: some blind allegiance. He gave credit where credit is due.

2036
01:34:25,920 --> 01:34:27,519
Speaker 1: So I think it's time we returned the favor as

2037
01:34:27,600 --> 01:34:29,280
Speaker 1: MMA fans and take a look at some of his

2038
01:34:29,360 --> 01:34:29,960
Speaker 1: greatest work.

2039
01:34:30,479 --> 01:34:33,559
Speaker 2: I mean, his power is insane, Luke, But what makes

2040
01:34:33,560 --> 01:34:37,360
Speaker 2: it great along with the McGregor like badassery that he shows,

2041
01:34:37,880 --> 01:34:39,960
Speaker 2: is the chances he takes in the ring or just

2042
01:34:40,040 --> 01:34:44,720
Speaker 2: insane hands down, squaring up, leaning back, doing all the

2043
01:34:44,760 --> 01:34:46,880
Speaker 2: things like when Anderson Silva got knocked out against Widman

2044
01:34:46,960 --> 01:34:50,200
Speaker 2: by leaning back, Hamed does that the whole fight. I mean,

2045
01:34:50,240 --> 01:34:53,240
Speaker 2: he just takes chances and backs it up with the power.

2046
01:34:53,520 --> 01:34:56,280
Speaker 2: This was his toughest test, you know, until that first

2047
01:34:56,320 --> 01:34:58,400
Speaker 2: loss of his career. Can't wait to relive it with you.

2048
01:34:59,479 --> 01:35:02,679
Speaker 1: So a couple of pieces of homework. We will tweet

2049
01:35:02,680 --> 01:35:04,960
Speaker 1: that link out at MMA. Excuse what I'm i saying.

2050
01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:08,240
Speaker 1: We will tweet that link out at Morning Combat. But

2051
01:35:08,320 --> 01:35:10,160
Speaker 1: we have a bunch of social media. You can follow

2052
01:35:10,200 --> 01:35:13,559
Speaker 1: Morning Combats on Instagram, Morning Combats on Twitter, Morning Combat

2053
01:35:13,600 --> 01:35:16,599
Speaker 1: is obviously on YouTube. We will make sure that we

2054
01:35:16,960 --> 01:35:19,840
Speaker 1: share that link at all the available places so you

2055
01:35:19,880 --> 01:35:21,960
Speaker 1: guys can watch that. If you want to send us

2056
01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:25,160
Speaker 1: an email for any reason, question comments, bitches, gribe, smart

2057
01:35:25,160 --> 01:35:29,000
Speaker 1: ass remarks. Morning Coombat at gmail dot com is the

2058
01:35:29,040 --> 01:35:32,800
Speaker 1: place to be. We're back on Wednesday. We're gonna do

2059
01:35:32,840 --> 01:35:34,599
Speaker 1: a deep dive. I don't want to give it away

2060
01:35:34,720 --> 01:35:36,160
Speaker 1: just yet, but I think you know if you've seen

2061
01:35:36,160 --> 01:35:38,120
Speaker 1: anybody in the headlines, we're gonna do a deep dive on them.

2062
01:35:38,640 --> 01:35:42,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, you see thumbs up on the video. Subscribe

2063
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Speaker 1: the whole nine yards. If you want to try Showtime

2064
01:35:44,560 --> 01:35:46,760
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2065
01:35:46,800 --> 01:35:49,639
Speaker 1: thirty day free trial and then, last but not least,

2066
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Speaker 1: get your merch get that March at store dot show

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Speaker 1: that's sho dot com. Anything else.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we got we're gonna get into him later this week.

2069
01:36:02,280 --> 01:36:04,720
Speaker 2: But Showtime's giving you two fight cards this week. Right,

2070
01:36:04,760 --> 01:36:08,400
Speaker 2: we got Showbox Wednesday night. We got headlined by Charles

2071
01:36:08,479 --> 01:36:11,639
Speaker 2: Conwell and Jay It's Wednesday, right, show Box on Wednesday?

2072
01:36:11,720 --> 01:36:12,160
Speaker 2: Am I right?

2073
01:36:12,160 --> 01:36:12,760
Speaker 1: I think that's right?

2074
01:36:12,840 --> 01:36:16,120
Speaker 2: Yes, all right? And then then of course Showtime Championship

2075
01:36:16,160 --> 01:36:20,160
Speaker 2: Boxing back Saturday from the bubble with all action welterway

2076
01:36:20,200 --> 01:36:23,120
Speaker 2: at all times. Anytime you're gonna get what's the guy's

2077
01:36:23,160 --> 01:36:26,320
Speaker 2: damn name? You know they love the guy anytime he fights.

2078
01:36:26,360 --> 01:36:27,599
Speaker 2: I love it. Wow, that was a great.

2079
01:36:28,000 --> 01:36:30,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, what a sell job there, great job.

2080
01:36:30,760 --> 01:36:33,400
Speaker 2: I watched the damn fight because it's going to be great.

2081
01:36:33,479 --> 01:36:35,880
Speaker 2: The guy who lost to Mikey Garcia if it was

2082
01:36:35,880 --> 01:36:37,599
Speaker 2: a war, you know the guy. All right, that's great.

2083
01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:38,640
Speaker 1: By the way, I have last thing on this. I

2084
01:36:38,680 --> 01:36:41,160
Speaker 1: was reading my favorite boxing side is Bad left Hoook

2085
01:36:41,200 --> 01:36:44,000
Speaker 1: dot com and I was reading it and they were

2086
01:36:44,200 --> 01:36:47,559
Speaker 1: listing the top ten boxing fights for October and the

2087
01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:50,280
Speaker 1: top two they had as they had Tayo Femal Lopez

2088
01:36:50,320 --> 01:36:53,559
Speaker 1: versus Lumachenko and then of course they had showtimes Tank

2089
01:36:53,640 --> 01:36:55,800
Speaker 1: Davis versus Leo Santa Cruz. I was like, wow, those

2090
01:36:55,800 --> 01:36:57,280
Speaker 1: are two great fights, and then I was thinking about

2091
01:36:57,360 --> 01:36:59,960
Speaker 1: like this month for MMA, you know when you've got

2092
01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:03,240
Speaker 1: Aichi and Kabib and U see two fifty four generally

2093
01:37:03,280 --> 01:37:05,960
Speaker 1: and everything else. Dude, this is a great month for

2094
01:37:06,040 --> 01:37:08,439
Speaker 1: combat sports. This is a killer month.

2095
01:37:09,240 --> 01:37:11,560
Speaker 2: I mean, dude, like, you know, we we relived, we

2096
01:37:11,880 --> 01:37:15,200
Speaker 2: went through the uh the you know public press conference

2097
01:37:15,320 --> 01:37:17,680
Speaker 2: or sorry, the tele you know teleconference that Habib and

2098
01:37:17,800 --> 01:37:19,800
Speaker 2: Justin didn't. It's just a reminder last week of how

2099
01:37:19,840 --> 01:37:22,200
Speaker 2: great this fight's gonna be. But you just nailed that.

2100
01:37:22,200 --> 01:37:24,639
Speaker 2: I mean you you sprinkle on Tayo Fima Lopez Junior

2101
01:37:24,640 --> 01:37:27,519
Speaker 2: against Vasila Lomachenko is next week, and you know there's

2102
01:37:27,560 --> 01:37:31,080
Speaker 2: a lot of reasons that's pretty insane. And then good god,

2103
01:37:31,160 --> 01:37:35,519
Speaker 2: Tank Davis against Leo Santa Cruz Halloween Nights, San Antonio

2104
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Speaker 2: in front of fans in the Dome. Yeah, this is

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Speaker 2: you know, Habib Justin alone could have gotten me there, Luke.

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Speaker 2: But we're gonna have an incredible month and it's Serge

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Speaker 2: Lippinett's the guy main eventing on Saturday, uh brings it

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Speaker 2: at all times for Showtime Boxing. So yeah, a lot

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Speaker 2: to look forward to this week, Luke. Monday, Wednesday and Friday,

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Speaker 2: we're hitting you, but it's gonna start unrolling, unloading and

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Speaker 2: unveiling the bonus content, which of course includes uh Luke

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Speaker 2: Thomas live Chat dissected.

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Speaker 1: Oh I should tell folks that the live chat this

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Speaker 1: week will officially move on Thursdays to this channel. Now,

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Speaker 1: nothing about it changes. I'm gonna keep the same name

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Speaker 1: just for the poor purposes of consistency, but Thursdays, three

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Speaker 1: pm it's going to be on this channel. So you're

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Speaker 1: gonna get content live four out of five days, and

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Speaker 1: then other kinds of content sprinkled all the way through.

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Speaker 1: So we promised you guys we were going to really start,

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Speaker 1: you know, hitting the gas pedal, and I think you're

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Speaker 1: beginning to see that. So Thursdays, three pm right here

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Speaker 1: on Morning Combat the channel. Okay, all right, we see

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Speaker 1: great stuff. As always, we appreciate everyone who watched. Thanks

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Speaker 1: to all the folks at Malka and Showtime and CBS.

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Speaker 1: That's Brian Campbell. I'm Luke Thomas. Until next time, may

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Speaker 1: all of your gains be loyal