WEBVTT - How Both Political Parties Make the Country Work (Part 2)

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<v Speaker 1>Keep on riding, would have says, we continue to broadcast

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<v Speaker 1>the balance and defend the discourse from the Hip Hop

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<v Speaker 1>Weekly Studios. Welcome back to Civic Cipher. I'm your host, rams'.

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<v Speaker 2>Jah, this is this is cute, y'all. But I wow man, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we're here, man, yeah, man, we were here.

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<v Speaker 1>But stick around because we are going to be talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in the interest of trying to make sense

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, I still believe that human beings are

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<v Speaker 1>generally decent, if not given it fear and you know

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<v Speaker 1>it can be convinced to do bad things. We're going

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<v Speaker 1>to explore how the two parties in this country make

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<v Speaker 1>the country better both parties do. We're gonna, we're gonna,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna try to have that conversation good luck. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a tough time to do it, but we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to attempt to do so. So please stick around for

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna share a letter that we received just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of trying to encourage us. This is from a listener.

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<v Speaker 1>His name is Pat and I thought this was I

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<v Speaker 1>was moved by it, and you know, we need to

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<v Speaker 1>be better allies now more than ever. So it says,

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<v Speaker 1>Brother Ramsays and Brother Q, I listened to your November

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<v Speaker 1>ninth show this morning on my way to work, and

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<v Speaker 1>it broke my heart. I'm filled with sadness for our

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<v Speaker 1>efforts to make the election outcome be different, and certainly

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<v Speaker 1>I have concern for what these next four years will bring.

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<v Speaker 1>But this year, my family and I threw it all

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<v Speaker 1>in for Kamala as well as an important representative for

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<v Speaker 1>the good in Virginia, Missy Carter, Smassi Smuscle. I believe

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<v Speaker 1>for my second district, we gave personally significant money, many

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<v Speaker 1>days walking neighborhoods with our boys, knocking doors and working

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<v Speaker 1>the polls, and maybe this outcome, like watching our brother

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<v Speaker 1>George Floyd having his life squeezed out of him on livestream,

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<v Speaker 1>will serve as an opportunity for awakening. We need to

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<v Speaker 1>be aware, awake, and so many of my white brothers

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<v Speaker 1>and sisters woke for a bit after the George Floyd murder,

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<v Speaker 1>only for so many people to be caught in the

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<v Speaker 1>BS culture wars and fear and propaganda to eventually go

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<v Speaker 1>back to our comfy living rooms and wonder if isolationism

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<v Speaker 1>is the right way to go right now. And you

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<v Speaker 1>two beautiful, gifted, committed and in action brothers, have even

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<v Speaker 1>less to regret than I do. Your show has grown

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<v Speaker 1>and grown and grown. Hearing Attorney, General Holder and Secretary

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<v Speaker 1>Rice back to back daily shows followed by Kamma's brother

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<v Speaker 1>in law and sister Powerful. You guys are crushing it.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys are making profound difference, in my honest opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>the progress you and I are out to see everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>It's continuing the so sis and bear fruit at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time. Nothing but love and respect. Pat. We appreciate you, Pat,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for the letter. We do need that love

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<v Speaker 1>and that vot of confidence these days, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to try to keep you encouraged as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So onward, all right, So I came across a question

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<v Speaker 1>that I thought was worth pondering. You know, Republicans think

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<v Speaker 1>that they must save America from liberalism and its policies.

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<v Speaker 1>So what is it that they think that they're saving

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<v Speaker 1>America from? Now? I know, I know, I'm doing my

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<v Speaker 1>best to try to approach this. For a person like me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really easy to laugh because it's like, I know

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<v Speaker 1>that their fears are unfounded. I know that, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to try to view it as though their fears

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<v Speaker 1>are valid. And if their fears are valid, then perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>I can speak to them. And if I can speak

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<v Speaker 1>to them, or I can find a way to speak

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<v Speaker 1>to those fears, then maybe I can empower our listeners

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<v Speaker 1>to maybe have similar conversations. You know, this country changes

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<v Speaker 1>in you know, at the dinner table. That's where it starts.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, if anybody's going to get pulled one way

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<v Speaker 1>or the other, it's going to be over dinner. It's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be in the living room. It's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be at the around the water cooler at work, It's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be in places like that. There's a quote

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<v Speaker 1>that Bill Clinton made a long time ago that is

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like rolling it around in my head. He says.

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<v Speaker 1>The quote. It says, the left is at its best,

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<v Speaker 1>The left at its best tears down walls that shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have been there, and the right at its best stops

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<v Speaker 1>the left from tearing down walls that should be there.

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<v Speaker 1>And if I boil my understanding of the two party

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<v Speaker 1>system in this country down to its essence, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that that is a masterful way of explaining what each

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<v Speaker 1>party stands for, what they're trying to do. There are

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<v Speaker 1>people who again are like kind of like me. Everybody

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<v Speaker 1>is inherently kind, everybody deserves a shot, everyone deserves equitable

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<v Speaker 1>access to X, Y and Z, and we need to

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<v Speaker 1>find the capacity to bring all these things into manifestation.

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<v Speaker 1>And then on the right, they ask how, they ask why,

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<v Speaker 1>they try to compare apples to apples, and oftentimes we're

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<v Speaker 1>not dealing with apples and more apples, and there's a

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<v Speaker 1>more realistic look, less optimistic look at things when folks

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<v Speaker 1>on the right have a critical examination of what folks

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<v Speaker 1>on the left want to do. And so again Bill

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<v Speaker 1>Clinton's statement about and I think it's important to emphasize

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<v Speaker 1>the left at its best tears down walls that shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be there, and the right at its best keeps the

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<v Speaker 1>left from tearing down walls that should remain. That at

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<v Speaker 1>its best part is really what we're speaking to because

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<v Speaker 1>there's I think that a lot of the stories that

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<v Speaker 1>you've shared on the on the show c about growing

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<v Speaker 1>up in Michigan with your mom having friends that voted

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<v Speaker 1>differently from her, but they were friends. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>ideas in those stories and the people represent the left

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<v Speaker 1>at its best, the right at its best. What I've

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<v Speaker 1>also found is that it's easier for cancerous, toxic, fear

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<v Speaker 1>based facets, forms of thought, schools of thought to exist

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<v Speaker 1>under the right than it is under the left. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not to say that it doesn't exist under the left too,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's it's it's easier for those things to exist

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<v Speaker 1>and to breed under the right because the right is

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<v Speaker 1>it's literally conservative, you know, the slower to move, slower

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<v Speaker 1>to accommodate and account for, less likely to share, makes

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<v Speaker 1>decisions more based around fear than what is morally just.

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<v Speaker 1>It's more based around what's possible, not what is ideal.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, what can we do, not what should we

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<v Speaker 1>do or what can we avoid doing? And so I

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<v Speaker 1>think that that's why in recent years we've seen more

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<v Speaker 1>of that, But I don't and we've done a good job.

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<v Speaker 1>I think so far on this show to try to

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<v Speaker 1>delineate let's call them the Maga extremists from you know,

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<v Speaker 1>your typical conservative folks who cannot conceive of voting for

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<v Speaker 1>a liberal candidate, and so they're stuck with casting a

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<v Speaker 1>vote alongside the Maga people, the clans people, the people

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<v Speaker 1>that we talked about in the first half of the

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<v Speaker 1>show that increase in hate speech toward women, they've historically

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<v Speaker 1>been able to excuse use well, you know, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the party that kind of shields all of the racist people.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm not racist. They just you know, I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>fiscal conservative. But I mean they can excuse the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that they're voting alongside those other folks. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>this is why we have to go to such great

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<v Speaker 1>links to delineate the decent folks who are Republican and

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<v Speaker 1>conservative in their feelings from the rest, because they have

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<v Speaker 1>to excuse so much in order to remain in lock

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<v Speaker 1>locked what is it lockstep, or to remain under that

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<v Speaker 1>same umbrella. Right. So again, this is something that I

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<v Speaker 1>need to learn about. And I know that you have

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<v Speaker 1>more to offer this conversation than I do, because you're

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<v Speaker 1>the one that actually grew up with seeing that you

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<v Speaker 1>know in Michigan.

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<v Speaker 2>I honestly think that I might be the worst possible

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<v Speaker 2>person to try to gain some understanding from in a

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<v Speaker 2>conversation like this one, because, even in good faith, right

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<v Speaker 2>talking about both sides at their best, the ideas in

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<v Speaker 2>and of themselves that one party is trying to take

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<v Speaker 2>down fences while the other wants to build them, even

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<v Speaker 2>if that's the only even if that's all the information

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<v Speaker 2>that we have, it's the difference between inclusivity and exclusivity,

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<v Speaker 2>and the arguments that could be made for the necessity

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<v Speaker 2>of both. We can't give all of our food away

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<v Speaker 2>because we won't eat. We can't give all of our

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<v Speaker 2>jobs away because we won't eat. But the exacerbation of

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<v Speaker 2>that train of thought leads to we can't give anything away.

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<v Speaker 2>All of this is mine, none of this is yours.

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<v Speaker 2>And in the conversations of right and wrong, the extremes

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<v Speaker 2>of those two are not equal. The person that would

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<v Speaker 2>hoard everything for themselves and watch everyone else perish is

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<v Speaker 2>not as decent a person as the one that would

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<v Speaker 2>do the opposite.

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<v Speaker 1>On the opposite end, you have your Jesus and your

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<v Speaker 1>mother Teresa's and your Gandhi's you understand what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>So, even using good faith with both at their best,

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<v Speaker 2>the ideals are not the same. They don't.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not on the same level. They're not equivalencies of

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<v Speaker 2>one another. So and then now there is no best

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<v Speaker 2>of the right, m right. You have people like Mayor

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<v Speaker 2>Gileska who said, I can't do that anymore. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 2>does not matter if I'm a fiscal Republican or I've

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<v Speaker 2>always been a conservative in life grandfather.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, no, no no.

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<v Speaker 2>This other side has as its chosen leader a blatant, flagrant,

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<v Speaker 2>out loud rapist, racist, misogynistic, pig, authoritarian fascist. And people

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<v Speaker 2>look these terms up because I see people using words

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<v Speaker 2>like socialists and communists and fascist and authoritarian, and they've

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<v Speaker 2>just determined that they're all bad words that mean the

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<v Speaker 2>same thing. They're not. So I challenge people, when you

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<v Speaker 2>see communist and authoritarian and fascist and socialist and look

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<v Speaker 2>these words up, understand what they mean. And if you've

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<v Speaker 2>determined that you're against one of those as an idea,

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<v Speaker 2>understand your why. Years ago, Bernie Sanders ram people called

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<v Speaker 2>him a socialist, So people said, okay, I can't vote

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<v Speaker 2>for him. I think a very large percentage of those

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<v Speaker 2>people think socialist is a bad word, so I can't

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<v Speaker 2>support it. I think a very large percentage of those people,

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<v Speaker 2>if they understood what that meant, would not have reacted

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<v Speaker 2>the way that it makes.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes And he said he's a democratic socialist. Yeah, so.

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<v Speaker 2>So again. And we try to have these both sides conversations.

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<v Speaker 2>They've always driven me crazy because it's an intentional fossil equivalency. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>The idea of this democracy that we live in, in

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<v Speaker 2>this capitalist society that we live in, requires that there

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<v Speaker 2>be some of us that have nothing, even though we

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<v Speaker 2>have more than enough for everyone to have something.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I help you make that point please? In study

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<v Speaker 1>being capitalism. I don't want to act like I'm an

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<v Speaker 1>expert on capitalism or economic models for societies, because I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>But I did go to school a little bit back

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<v Speaker 1>in the day. I do have a master's degree in

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<v Speaker 1>business management. You know, I'm not stupid, but my understanding

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<v Speaker 1>of capitalism is that you need to have some unemployment

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. You cannot.

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<v Speaker 2>Why would a system require that there'd be some people

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<v Speaker 2>unemployed who are unemployed?

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<v Speaker 1>That's a great question. The idea if there is some

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<v Speaker 1>unemployment is that wages can be kept lower and businesses

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<v Speaker 1>can succeed, spurring innovation and COMPETI because competition and innovation

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<v Speaker 1>are bedfellows.

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<v Speaker 2>And those are supposed to be the things that push

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<v Speaker 2>societies forward.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. But the sacrifice, of course, is that there's a

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<v Speaker 1>human cost, because again, in order for capitalism to work,

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<v Speaker 1>you need unemployment. If everyone has a job, then no

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<v Speaker 1>one is afraid of not having a job. And as

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<v Speaker 1>long as you have some people that you can point

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<v Speaker 1>to and say, hey, look see those people. They're not working,

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't have to pay you what you're worth.

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<v Speaker 2>And by not working, they're not eating, and they're not housed,

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<v Speaker 2>and they don't have clothes, and they don't have things.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a whole you know what I mean. And so

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<v Speaker 1>historically in this country, the people who have borne the

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<v Speaker 1>brunt of that has been black people and women, black women.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me say it clearly so you understand. Find me

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<v Speaker 1>a time in this country, in this country's history where

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<v Speaker 1>the black unemployment rate was lower than the white unemployment rate.

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<v Speaker 1>In any event, I think that you know, I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to have a good faith argu this is why when

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<v Speaker 1>we look at the exit poll information from the last

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<v Speaker 1>election and a lot of elections, you see where morally

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<v Speaker 1>this country should be. By looking at how black women vote,

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<v Speaker 1>you can see the right choice, the moral right choice

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<v Speaker 1>by looking at how black women vote overwhelmingly. And now,

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<v Speaker 1>of course there's millions upon millions of black women, all

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<v Speaker 1>voting differently, not all of them, you know, because it's

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<v Speaker 1>usually most of them voting one way, and you can

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<v Speaker 1>very clearly see. But there are people that can say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>this black woman didn't do that, and that black woman

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<v Speaker 1>didn't do it, and pull out the Candice Owes and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you look at the data, it's very clear

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a reason for that. Those people understand what

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<v Speaker 1>it's like to be on the bottom. Those are the

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<v Speaker 1>people propping up Like in the day to day, it's

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<v Speaker 1>black women in the real world that are propping up

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<v Speaker 1>Republican profits, Republican systems. They're holding the whole country up.

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<v Speaker 1>And they don't vote Republican because it's not in their interest,

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<v Speaker 1>of course. But as long as black women are at

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom and black men just above them and the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the minorities in this country, then they have

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<v Speaker 1>the stratification of a society that will work. Now, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't necessarily want to have that conversation because again, in

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<v Speaker 1>trying to understand and trying to have a good faith

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<v Speaker 1>approach and gain an understanding of how both parties make

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<v Speaker 1>this country work. There's another quote that I came across.

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<v Speaker 1>This was just some guy's thoughts online. I'm gonna say

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<v Speaker 1>his name, but I think it inspires some thinking. So

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<v Speaker 1>this guy's name is Rob Bartley. He says quote or

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<v Speaker 1>he's citing a quote here, and the quote is don't

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<v Speaker 1>ever take a fence down until you know the reason

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<v Speaker 1>it was put up. And that quote comes from G. K. Chesterton.

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<v Speaker 1>So these are now Rob Bartley's words. The debate, largely

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<v Speaker 1>between the right and the left, is over the value

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<v Speaker 1>and the reason of the fences in place. The left

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<v Speaker 1>dislikes fences on wages, for example, while the right dislikes

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<v Speaker 1>fences placed on business. Both can argue the effects on

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<v Speaker 1>the workers or the effect on jobs. Both have valid points.

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<v Speaker 1>Either of them, left unchecked, is bad for the country.

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<v Speaker 1>The tension between the two is honestly why we're still

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<v Speaker 1>a great country. Our inability to enforce our ideas on

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<v Speaker 1>the other keeps us all free from the good intentions

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<v Speaker 1>of the other. And again, in a perfect world, that'd

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<v Speaker 1>be great. But once this new administration gets the reins.

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<v Speaker 2>The privilege of ever feeling like what he just said

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<v Speaker 2>is is insane. Forgive me for saying that so flagrantly,

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<v Speaker 2>but the privilege of ever thinking that what he just

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<v Speaker 2>said was true. One side of that argument needs for

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<v Speaker 2>their own benefit, for them to be for there to

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<v Speaker 2>be those of us that have nothing, because we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about these things in principle right. One side of this

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<v Speaker 2>argument wants to put into place things that will benefit

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<v Speaker 2>one percent of us.

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<v Speaker 1>That trickle down economics was a decidedly publican idea that

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<v Speaker 1>didn't work after forty fifty years of trying, and.

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<v Speaker 2>It's still in place in some ways, and the tax

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<v Speaker 2>cut for the tax cuts for the rich, and all

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<v Speaker 2>these policies, all of this stuff that they're trying to

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<v Speaker 2>put in. If you read through Project twenty five, if

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<v Speaker 2>you read through whatever Agenda forty seven, the things that

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<v Speaker 2>they have in place are there to benefit one percent

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<v Speaker 2>of us. So you'd ask, well, how do you get

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<v Speaker 2>fifty percent of us to vote for something that only

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<v Speaker 2>benefits one percent of us. You tap into all of

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<v Speaker 2>our natural greed. I one day might be a part

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<v Speaker 2>of that one percent and fears, so I want that

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<v Speaker 2>to benefit me when you couple that with racism and fear,

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<v Speaker 2>xenophobia and white supremacist nationalism and on and on, because

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<v Speaker 2>fear sometimes we use as a synonym for hate, and

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<v Speaker 2>they're not the same things. It's not the fear of

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<v Speaker 2>black people or immigrants, or gay people or women. It's

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<v Speaker 2>to hate. These men don't fear women. They hate them.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't respect them, they don't consider them human, they

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<v Speaker 2>consider them beneath them. They don't deserve the right to

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<v Speaker 2>vote or the right to have their own jobs. They

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<v Speaker 2>don't deserve the right to deny a man's sex. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and these aren't ramsen Q's thoughts. Yeah, go back and

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<v Speaker 2>listen to the first part of the show if you

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<v Speaker 2>missed it. They've pulled off the master con of pushing

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<v Speaker 2>forth laws, litigation, legislation to benefit the one percent at

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<v Speaker 2>the risk of failing everyone else, and they don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm we're gonna need a round two on that one,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know that there's there's got to be something

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<v Speaker 1>else there, you know, I remember there was a gentleman

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<v Speaker 1>saying that he's going to vote for Donald Trump because

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<v Speaker 1>he protects the interests of a white future, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>all he's interested in. You can excuse all the flaws

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<v Speaker 1>and so forth. And he's a lifelong Republican and Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump was his guy, and he doesn't consider himself racist.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's more layers to this. Definitely, we'll have those

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<v Speaker 1>conversations at some point in the future, but for now

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<v Speaker 1>we will say thank you for tuning in to this

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<v Speaker 1>episode of Civic Cipher. I've been your host rams this jah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm still cure. Thank you Pat for the letter. Yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I thank you to all of you guys that are

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<v Speaker 2>still tuned in listening to us. It's a it's a

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<v Speaker 2>tough mental space right now, right like that that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not racist, I'm not sexist people, but I still support him,

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<v Speaker 2>so those things aren't disqualifiers.

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<v Speaker 1>Man. That's tough, super tough. But lock in with us

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<v Speaker 1>on all social media and the website at Civiccipher dot

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<v Speaker 1>com and until next week, y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>Peace,