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Speaker 1: We understand and we know that these two brothers right here,
Speaker 1: it's not only our friends, our family, our homies, but
Speaker 1: they are super legends. When you can talk about bar
Speaker 1: lords and you talk about people who put projects together,
Speaker 1: and they are legend with the group, they are legend together,
Speaker 1: and they are legend individuals. These guys have stood the
Speaker 1: test of time. They're still out here looking twenty five,
Speaker 1: still just left a goddamn video ship and came right
Speaker 1: here because they still grinded you young niggers, don't understand that.
Speaker 1: In case you don't understand who the hell we're talking about,
Speaker 1: we're talking about the legendary, the impeccable, the supreme magnetic
Speaker 1: springs killing ghost. I want to start with you, uh recently,
Speaker 1: because you have my homies, I still want to do research.
Speaker 1: So I went and I watched the documentary. I watched
Speaker 1: everything I could watch, but recently, Um, the baby. You
Speaker 1: know what's going on with the baby, and it's a
Speaker 1: controversy the baby. No, not the baby. I'm buging, um,
Speaker 1: Travis Scott, excuse me with the concept. So you hear
Speaker 1: what's going on? Yeah, people got body that day, right, right?
Speaker 1: So immediately I go on and I look at the
Speaker 1: documentary and one of the parts of the documentary is
Speaker 1: Ghost coming out saying fun got ninety seven, Right, I
Speaker 1: merely related to I'm like, that could have happened then
Speaker 1: if y'all would have said fun have mighty seven and
Speaker 1: Nicks was said, you know, we're walking off, and y'all
Speaker 1: would have walked off, it would have been the same
Speaker 1: type of like, I don't know if y'all know how
Speaker 1: important it was, like like, because if you look at
Speaker 1: that for this. When you say funk Hot ninety seven,
Speaker 1: the whole crowd agrees with you, Like your whole crowd
Speaker 1: is like word like you're going to say that. But
Speaker 1: you did it in Hot ninety seven at their event
Speaker 1: summer Jam. Let's let's do it. Oh yeah, let's let's
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Speaker 1: How did according to the documentary, right, let me let
Speaker 1: me just help out a little bit. Quart to the documentary,
Speaker 1: y'all want to rage against the machines exactly. And so
Speaker 1: this is the only date you're not getting paid. You're
Speaker 1: getting paid for the rage against the machine. You go
Speaker 1: to come to New York. This is the hand the
Speaker 1: land of this is your home. Yeah yeah, and he
Speaker 1: was gonna strip us. Reggie kept saying, like, Yo, we
Speaker 1: don't make that event. They liable to take us off
Speaker 1: a radio you know mean yeah, it was like they
Speaker 1: take us off the radios. So we we had to
Speaker 1: make a decision, like, yo, leader event lead to lead
Speaker 1: the toal or just come and just come do this.
Speaker 1: And yeah, we went, we left, we left, We left
Speaker 1: the fucking rage. I don't think that was I think
Speaker 1: that was not so much of a good idea to
Speaker 1: leave that because you could have went straight back on
Speaker 1: the tour, the Rage tour, right, you could have. I
Speaker 1: don't think so y'all all together, like I think that
Speaker 1: you're coming back to him. I don't recall even jumping
Speaker 1: back on that. Did we jump back on that? Right? No?
Speaker 1: I think I think y'all call that shit right. But
Speaker 1: then again, now I think we had some ship going
Speaker 1: on but then jumped in and jumped back out. But
Speaker 1: I don't know. I might have been yeah, yeah, but
Speaker 1: I remember it was a big debate because half of
Speaker 1: us didn't want to do it and the other half
Speaker 1: was like, yo, it's politics, because I believe in that
Speaker 1: same tour, um, you have a them party, and in
Speaker 1: that platinum party, y'all go to the hood because y'all
Speaker 1: want to raise it against the machine to I believe
Speaker 1: his residents said, yeah, we went platinum and we're on
Speaker 1: perform for the White Boys, but we had to come
Speaker 1: here tonight to celebrate the product. How how is that like?
Speaker 1: Because um, I kind of never I never was on
Speaker 1: tour with Alternative Act other than like more than two days.
Speaker 1: So how was that? Because did y'all realize that y'all
Speaker 1: was like, y'all still hood but y'all commercial now you
Speaker 1: know what it was. It's just that we was blowing
Speaker 1: up so fast that we were still looking at it
Speaker 1: on some young ship and not really realizing how big
Speaker 1: we was. So you know, when you you know, it's
Speaker 1: like you know how it is when your career first started.
Speaker 1: It's like you're going where you're going, and then you're
Speaker 1: starting to really take a look and say, yo, this
Speaker 1: they got us on this now you know, but we
Speaker 1: knowing this big, but we really paying attention to you
Speaker 1: don't appreciate that time. We didn't appreciate it like you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. We were just having fun, you know,
Speaker 1: covering ground. But like you said earlier about really not
Speaker 1: paying attention to mainstream how important it was, I said,
Speaker 1: we would have really knew how important mainstream was. We
Speaker 1: probably would have really got to act together even better
Speaker 1: and really handled it. But Yo, knowing that we had
Speaker 1: so many, so many people of color, like especially white
Speaker 1: people just coming out for us, it's like it was like, oh, ship,
Speaker 1: this ship is different now you know. It's like, yo,
Speaker 1: they embraced you, you know what I mean, Like we
Speaker 1: still had the hood though, but it was like it
Speaker 1: was like we be changing like rock stars playing with
Speaker 1: that side, you know what I mean? Like they said,
Speaker 1: we didn't really understand because we're like what like that,
Speaker 1: Like it was on like like yo, you're gonna do
Speaker 1: this ship or you're gonna do this, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Did it just went a wire over there
Speaker 1: and ship? And it was a big debate. It was
Speaker 1: a debate about going back, no, going to go through
Speaker 1: the hot nineties seven ship as something. Did you actually
Speaker 1: have that in your mind out? Nah? Because because because
Speaker 1: I think I think we was wanted. I think we
Speaker 1: wanted to go on last, but they put bad Boy
Speaker 1: to go on before us, and I think that's what
Speaker 1: it was. And didn't you know back then, I was wild.
Speaker 1: I just it's just wild out, wild out plan. He
Speaker 1: was about to say seven or na, na, we just
Speaker 1: wanted to just everybody so anybody had your your back
Speaker 1: on stage or how did that mean? At that time?
Speaker 1: It was like yeah, it was like what you gonna
Speaker 1: done of the stage is like nine nigga were hit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I think we I think we was more or
Speaker 1: less like that that he wanted. He wanted, he wanted
Speaker 1: the bust shots and yeah, pe it didn't do it.
Speaker 1: So it was that and it wasn't really playing us
Speaker 1: like that we got the triumph. It just it seemed
Speaker 1: like it got like I don't know, man, it was
Speaker 1: it seemed like it was a force behind us, gonna
Speaker 1: seem like, Yo, they speaking the truth? Why these niggas
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Cut their ship down a
Speaker 1: little bit? So when we dropped trying, that ship went
Speaker 1: double platinum whatever at that time, and it was like, yo, not,
Speaker 1: why are we not hearing our ship like that? Like
Speaker 1: why are we not you know what I'm saying? So Yo,
Speaker 1: all that ship was combined, all that ship like that,
Speaker 1: and it was could be sometimes yeah, man, fuck it
Speaker 1: I was so felt. Yeah, but you know, but it's
Speaker 1: like I remember when we first started and it's like
Speaker 1: nine seven is down for us and we was down
Speaker 1: for them, and it's like it really yeah, it took
Speaker 1: off and you know, we was blowing together, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. You know we had something to do
Speaker 1: with that. Then all of a sudden, you know, um,
Speaker 1: the dynamics changed or whatever. It's like a lot of
Speaker 1: motions involved with business and you know, next thing, you know,
Speaker 1: for some reason, they just really stopped supporting our ship.
Speaker 1: So now we're still blowing, we're still doing, we're doing,
Speaker 1: but still looking at it like damn, why we ain't
Speaker 1: getting no love back on? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: What's going on? What's what's really going on? But at
Speaker 1: that time, the game was just it was it was
Speaker 1: changing in its own way, meaning like you know, now
Speaker 1: people that's up there that's really excited about the music,
Speaker 1: now it's like now everybody's playing chess now, like, yo,
Speaker 1: what you bringing to the table? Now? You know what
Speaker 1: you mean? When we're bringing to the table, we are
Speaker 1: the table tables because we were speaking the truth. But
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, you got you got brothers
Speaker 1: coming in as guards, and it's like, yo, y'all coming
Speaker 1: with the truth. And I'm thinking, like that's what I thought,
Speaker 1: Like it's a power that somebody that did on something
Speaker 1: like Yo, slow Nick's damn like this is that and
Speaker 1: we're not hearing our ship and we know trying for
Speaker 1: his banging at that time, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: So Yo, it just it just happened and that fund
Speaker 1: us up though, Like when I didn't say play your records,
Speaker 1: like what you had to be friends feeling yeah, because
Speaker 1: because of that, that's why they didn't play the Regor saying,
Speaker 1: because what happened, we bout shout yea, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, holy ship. But we gotta love for High
Speaker 1: ninety seven. Yeah he had to build that ship again.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You know, it's crazy. I
Speaker 1: just had dinner with Steve Ripkin, and Steve Rippin looks
Speaker 1: to me and I'm telling him that about the end
Speaker 1: of y'all and I'm telling him, I said, one of
Speaker 1: my first questions is I wanted to ask Cools. I
Speaker 1: wanted to know this for myself, that this ain't even
Speaker 1: like journalist or this is me for myself. And he goes,
Speaker 1: you know what, nor how many seven was almost built
Speaker 1: for Wou Tang And I said what, Yeah. He said
Speaker 1: that it was a rhythmic station at first. It was
Speaker 1: a crossover station at first, and y'all Records was being
Speaker 1: so much that they called him and said, we're gonna
Speaker 1: change the whole station in the hip hop for woo
Speaker 1: did you'll know some just currazy. So when he just
Speaker 1: said that this now, I was like, I knew he
Speaker 1: didn't know that. Julie just hit me with so I looked.
Speaker 1: I was just like, all right, cool, let me keep
Speaker 1: that in my registry. But that that's that's crazy for
Speaker 1: it to go from from one extreme to the next,
Speaker 1: like them literally saying like you know, Carest wanted to
Speaker 1: being the voice Woo Tang's gonna build it before them,
Speaker 1: and then because it wasn't you know, from what I heard,
Speaker 1: it's not too ten years ago. That number one station
Speaker 1: is like, you know, the number one station in l
Speaker 1: a number one station in New York. Start paying they
Speaker 1: artists now for their summer jams. For years they were.
Speaker 1: They was like, yo, we're the number one market. If
Speaker 1: you want to be played, y come. But meanwhile they're
Speaker 1: playing Rocket and Tops. They're playing like you know, the dudes,
Speaker 1: it's not from the coach and they hired a number
Speaker 1: so it's it's it's been a it's been a it's
Speaker 1: been the dynamic has changed the radio now, but radio
Speaker 1: don't really matter. Like I think y'all proved that. I
Speaker 1: think that the band on wood Tang never affected a
Speaker 1: wood Tang fan. Let them let me explain to that
Speaker 1: a real ru Tang fanatic wasn't going to Hot ninety
Speaker 1: seven and listen to your ship neither anyway, who's saying that?
Speaker 1: What's going out to go see? And remember you had
Speaker 1: to go get the albums at that time. You want
Speaker 1: to know who produced that. You want to know. This
Speaker 1: is math what I'm saying. So I think that y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all transition from that because y'all was the people that
Speaker 1: were still successful. Like you said, Triumph was two million
Speaker 1: and probably had just a couple of spends on any seven.
Speaker 1: So did y'all feel that effect that y'all feel like,
Speaker 1: did you regret it? Because it was you, you the leader?
Speaker 1: Did you? I thought, Wow, it's like you're not hanging
Speaker 1: your ship. You're not hanging your ship in your own hometown.
Speaker 1: And it's like, yeah, it was like and then we
Speaker 1: we've sitting meetings and Rizzon will sit there and explain, like, Yo,
Speaker 1: we funked up, you know what I mean, and brothers
Speaker 1: just like, YO, we should have told you we shouldn't
Speaker 1: stayed on the tour, and it's saying the dirt. And
Speaker 1: then it's like yo, like you said, like saying you
Speaker 1: and yet with like yo, we couldn't get on you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? So yeah, that that that kind
Speaker 1: of like sucked us up. But what's crazy is I
Speaker 1: think you said it earlier. It's only a couple of
Speaker 1: groups that transitioned like you guys, that's that's state exactly
Speaker 1: who you are. You do guys, don't change, don't compromise,
Speaker 1: don't compromise. But y'all cross civil group. But just but
Speaker 1: just like DMX is the same way, I've never seen
Speaker 1: DMX calm rest in peace piece he you go to
Speaker 1: his shows, I would go hang out with him, go
Speaker 1: to the shows. It would be nothing but white people there,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, whoa, they don't They can't relate to Timberlands,
Speaker 1: can't relate to Yonkers, but they did. So it reminds
Speaker 1: me of y'all because you know, y'all was like the
Speaker 1: first like hip hop would stock type of group. Like
Speaker 1: what I mean by that is I would look at
Speaker 1: your shows and y'all started out and look from the
Speaker 1: outside looking at because I've seen reason on the rapperence clubs.
Speaker 1: To him all, you used to do shows for nothing,
Speaker 1: but then for me live from the outside look at
Speaker 1: then it's all seemed like y'all went straight to festivals
Speaker 1: Like it wasn't like that, Nah, it was longer story. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we we was up in them more joints all that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that came a little. It went fast, though, it went fast.
Speaker 1: We had our spots, but it was like for some
Speaker 1: reason the whole world was just gravitating to it and
Speaker 1: before you know what, we wanted up going these fucking festivals.
Speaker 1: But it was cool though, But but we had to
Speaker 1: We had to go through the mill too. At the
Speaker 1: same time, fighting in clubs doing ship were out there
Speaker 1: in the in the in the in the Midwest and
Speaker 1: the down south and getting shot. He's pulled out on us,
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean, like just all that
Speaker 1: ship getting jerked for like a hunter of bill. He
Speaker 1: was giving us fake hunt of bills, all that ship,
Speaker 1: all that. So we went through that ship. But it's
Speaker 1: just like it seemed like overnight we was in them
Speaker 1: fucking big ass fields out there perfore for like look
Speaker 1: like means of people, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: at one time we went somewhere, we went to this hotel.
Speaker 1: There wasn't nobody in the hotel. I'm talking about, no people.
Speaker 1: Maybe that spot we was at it we somewhere in
Speaker 1: like fucking Scandinavia or the cat running around. Nah, the
Speaker 1: ship was crazy. You remember we watched the fight in
Speaker 1: the arm We watched the sad Judah fight. We was
Speaker 1: down in the lobby like in the reception office, like
Speaker 1: nobody wasn't there. We was on the phones and there everything.
Speaker 1: Like if somebody came in there and they got a bone,
Speaker 1: it was like he was right there, like, yo, what
Speaker 1: you want yo'ing off? Yeah, we had the whole fucking
Speaker 1: old child originally when your first trial for the first nine, right,
Speaker 1: but you didn't then you had the ball, then you
Speaker 1: have mook you yeah, yeah, ye goes to the two
Speaker 1: others that wasn't a part of the group that travel
Speaker 1: with y'all. What I'm saying that they was part of
Speaker 1: the management team. Okay, so you know there was like
Speaker 1: the road managers and you know, making sure that niggas
Speaker 1: get to what they gotta go, you know. But yeah,
Speaker 1: because that must have been the worst job to manage
Speaker 1: all y'all. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, because to be honest,
Speaker 1: like and you know this is how I talk about
Speaker 1: y'all behind your back, there would never be another thing.
Speaker 1: There will never be another nine. But with everybody with daggers,
Speaker 1: like everybody shot like everybody like I love how risive.
Speaker 1: In the beginning of the documentary, we describe each one
Speaker 1: like I believe he called you. I don't know he
Speaker 1: called you because I broke this down. Ghost Face Killer
Speaker 1: in the Karate Flip was the most dangerous person in
Speaker 1: the Karate Flip. You missed me a chech boxing, Yeah, mistery,
Speaker 1: It's like, yes's what I got my name from. It
Speaker 1: was they had front on him like earlier in the years.
Speaker 1: His son came back like twenty years later and just
Speaker 1: started doing damage, you know what I mean. But I
Speaker 1: fell in love with the name though when I went
Speaker 1: because had his watching all that ship, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, like like just just flick at the flick.
Speaker 1: But for some reason, they just had a ring to it,
Speaker 1: and it was like, Yo, that's my ship, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Yeah, yea definitely. And and and the
Speaker 1: msterr chest box you in that video you had on
Speaker 1: I had on yet you had Yeah, I had the
Speaker 1: mash on stock And Cat's on the right being seen.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be seen. He's on the rock.
Speaker 1: But see that he was wearing it. He was wearing
Speaker 1: it because you know, he was fresh out of the Street,
Speaker 1: so soon you know, we knew ghosts. We know his
Speaker 1: name was ringing and stating now crazy. So even around
Speaker 1: that time is like what you was. You had to
Speaker 1: keep you, you know, you had to keep you going
Speaker 1: you and yeah, yeah, definitely Snip was just in everything.
Speaker 1: So we are young thos are young days, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, ask you, do you ever think that M. F.
Speaker 1: Doom took that from you? Because when I spoke to Doom,
Speaker 1: he didn't say he didn't say that, but I think
Speaker 1: a little bit of his Ryan pattery, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. We want to play close to each other.
Speaker 1: He just dude, I love Doom Pete. He's like he
Speaker 1: was because I'm telling me him, like yo, we should
Speaker 1: do like a two or five thing, like just trying
Speaker 1: to move these you know the music, you know what
Speaker 1: i mean. Yeah, music, I give you that, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, these little tapes or whatever. It caps
Speaker 1: me a little five piece of little five record, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So but he was, you know,
Speaker 1: chicking in this ship and then he just wish thories
Speaker 1: like you know, I got my ship from you, you you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? You know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: my aunt said, I'm like a word and it was
Speaker 1: just all love. It was love though, but I didn't know.
Speaker 1: I thought he was talking about the style of his
Speaker 1: rat like you know both. I think he got an
Speaker 1: image here. Yeah, but you know what I mean. But uh,
Speaker 1: and that's that was it. So I'm like, oh, ship,
Speaker 1: ain't no doubt, no doubt. So let me ask you
Speaker 1: what's the difference between him? And asked that Bronson, I
Speaker 1: know this was coming Nazi. What should mean the difference?
Speaker 1: Like the different because obviously buns right, So Bronson had
Speaker 1: the voice right. Uh, as far as the style, because
Speaker 1: I created I went to Africa and I just created
Speaker 1: a style that yeah cool, I created a style also
Speaker 1: like it let me create. Well, this was no music
Speaker 1: because I was dead in the village. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: no music there, whatever the case may be. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just create somewhere. It's like, just come with
Speaker 1: a bunch of words that really they just sound good together.
Speaker 1: Really didn't really mean ship. It's funny because motherfucker tried
Speaker 1: to decipher the ship and it's like, Nigga, I don't
Speaker 1: even know what the fun is. But so when I
Speaker 1: did like nothing made and wanted all that ship like that.
Speaker 1: It's like, yo, and that's what led to that ship.
Speaker 1: But then you know, it started getting back to me
Speaker 1: like y'o, my fucker's don't know what you're talking about
Speaker 1: and it's not in the thirst. So I said, you
Speaker 1: know what, I let me just calm down on this ship.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? If I out putting me
Speaker 1: someone else and ship, you know what I mean? But yeah,
Speaker 1: but action he had the voice like I played something
Speaker 1: like my man, my engineer played me one thing one time.
Speaker 1: I'm like, Yo, who the heck? He's like, Yo, I
Speaker 1: thought it was me, you know what I mean? It
Speaker 1: was me. I thought it was me. You heard him
Speaker 1: and you thought it was me? Yeah, Yo, But I
Speaker 1: don't remember right now. Ship, That's what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, ship, But you know I bumped it
Speaker 1: to him one time a few times in your at
Speaker 1: fucking uh the ship south by Southwest. He was cool.
Speaker 1: He was man cool with ship, like like like yo,
Speaker 1: dat each other up? He choking like yo, Yo, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't mean the sound like you like, I'm not
Speaker 1: doing it on purpose, you know what I mean? Exactly,
Speaker 1: And that's how I always shook it with him, you know,
Speaker 1: like how how what's this money? Name? How Shinn and
Speaker 1: Gorilla Black was sounding like big you know that like that.
Speaker 1: I just thought, you know, sometimes your vocal course could
Speaker 1: be that way, but I didn't. I just didn't never
Speaker 1: knew that he was gonna jump out the window on me, right,
Speaker 1: because what happened after that? Um? Someone asked them ESPN
Speaker 1: but exactly and um maximum um yeah yeah yeah exactly.
Speaker 1: But what did they ask him? And then he said
Speaker 1: something and he just like yo, lost it? Yeah, he said,
Speaker 1: ghost don't do that style? Yeah, yeah, some ship like that.
Speaker 1: Like I wasn't all no more. So I'm not like
Speaker 1: because but you play. But it's like I don't even
Speaker 1: know what pushed them to go over there, like that
Speaker 1: did you play? When you when you? When I responded
Speaker 1: when newss I played, I just went to you know
Speaker 1: what it is? It was it was m P. But
Speaker 1: I didn't have nothing funt listen, he said. When I'm
Speaker 1: on the road with y me and very on the road,
Speaker 1: it's sit and I just get the call like yo,
Speaker 1: the sneaker went in, So I'm like, well work, I
Speaker 1: get back to the hotel like later on that night
Speaker 1: and you know, I just got on ESPN and I
Speaker 1: see him go in on me. But we couldn't get
Speaker 1: the studio time or nothing like that to get ahead
Speaker 1: and do whatever they do. So I'm like, yo, I
Speaker 1: just told my man, like, yo, just o this ship.
Speaker 1: Then I listened to fly Ship, you know what mean,
Speaker 1: Me and Ray we stay there, you know Old Jay's
Speaker 1: flash it like that whatever whatever. So that was just
Speaker 1: one of the tracks that just happened to be going
Speaker 1: off my ship. So I told my man this in
Speaker 1: the morning time to but I was in the morning
Speaker 1: when we're about to check out, so hold on because
Speaker 1: he came to get my bags. So I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: listen for called this, you know what I mean, and
Speaker 1: just spit whatever. That was not rehearsed. I just threw
Speaker 1: it at him, you know what I mean. And that
Speaker 1: was it. And it was the hardest reply ever in
Speaker 1: hip hop. You know, I ain't nigga from our generation
Speaker 1: knew exactly what he was talking about. It's like it's
Speaker 1: like that was then, you know, because the pressure was
Speaker 1: kind of like a little bit too, you know, because
Speaker 1: I heard everybody was on on on him, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. But um, I was expect him for
Speaker 1: what he do, you know, as a man, as a person,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and um, sometimes we make mistakes,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and um, you know, and
Speaker 1: even if I see them today, it's like, yo, I'll
Speaker 1: dab him and show him some love. We never smoke
Speaker 1: at that, never speak up spoke after that though. Probably
Speaker 1: know that was raised man. Yeah, but your bet because
Speaker 1: I've seen one ship. I've seen one ship a picture
Speaker 1: we were soon where we've seen him ray. But you know,
Speaker 1: I guess he was talking to you and the picture
Speaker 1: got me laughing like like, oh, like look at the
Speaker 1: Nike of overhead and ship. I think even I think
Speaker 1: he's seen that, and that's probably what made him saying
Speaker 1: I make to me, you don't make because yeah, like
Speaker 1: like like like like if I'm laughing at him, at
Speaker 1: him while he's talking the ray because I'm in the
Speaker 1: background over here laughing at something else whatever it was,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't about him. So I'm thinking that that
Speaker 1: might have been or whatever that made him go out
Speaker 1: like that or whatever. But no, I haven't have it
Speaker 1: out for you. Yeah, I have a spec phone. Didn't
Speaker 1: have it out of no way, like you said, I
Speaker 1: think it was just that he got caught up and
Speaker 1: got tongue twisted in this, but you don't bring me
Speaker 1: in there like that. Oh yeah, you know. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like y'all, come on, man, we this is this is
Speaker 1: real life around It's like, yo, it's like I've been
Speaker 1: chilling for a minute. But it's like he hit me
Speaker 1: right away too. I was like, man, you don't fuck up.
Speaker 1: I said, you don't funked up. I said, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna try to fix it. But at the time, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he reached out. He reached out right away because like
Speaker 1: he said, he knew I had a relationship with him
Speaker 1: through through people I was fucking with, and you know, honestly,
Speaker 1: I really felt like he just you know, he got
Speaker 1: caught out their word wordplay wise, and I'm, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to let him know, like y'all keep telling like, yo,
Speaker 1: you gotta call him, you gotta, you know, speak to
Speaker 1: that man man on man and and apologize based on that.
Speaker 1: But at that time, I don't think the communication was
Speaker 1: was getting back to you. You was just already lit up,
Speaker 1: like just from the shockness. Like he because when I
Speaker 1: met him stop by Suthway it's like y'a ma, chef,
Speaker 1: I do this whatever, whatever, whatever, And I'm like, yo, listen, man,
Speaker 1: this is rap music, bro. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Sometime I'm motherfucking Mike look up to you, or even
Speaker 1: just like I said, your tone might be the same tone,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's like what you're gonna do,
Speaker 1: that's how God made him, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So I looked at it like that, like I said,
Speaker 1: Sean and and and the Black and I'm like, yo, yo,
Speaker 1: this man, it's that's hours Ship came out, and then
Speaker 1: you got brothers like nah ghost na na, na, No,
Speaker 1: he's not trying to go. And I'm like, damn, I'm
Speaker 1: saying to myself and they you gotta be a comedian,
Speaker 1: say me five sibility doing ship like that, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So, but it is what it is.
Speaker 1: Like I said, Yo, alls shout out to action. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Love is love. I see him
Speaker 1: out there, you know, doing this thing. I would not
Speaker 1: to do music. I would not to do music, but
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And that's it is over
Speaker 1: with man, you knowing, man, then listen. So another part
Speaker 1: of the documentary identified with you immediately was you was
Speaker 1: the only one from Stapleton. Everyone else is from podcast
Speaker 1: from the Hill? See everyone else who way to everyone
Speaker 1: from Queensbridge. Hope thinks I didn't realize how much I
Speaker 1: related to you. I was like, wait a minute, me
Speaker 1: on the low, I always too, I was waiting. I
Speaker 1: probably amn't raiding in other issues, but from that, I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: that's like so but Risid and just as your cousin,
Speaker 1: that's Richard cousin. Oh, just as Risider cousin when you
Speaker 1: were rising his cousins. No, okay, where did you get
Speaker 1: start child? My sister? Okay you what I got children?
Speaker 1: My sister? Okay I did Yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah, so
Speaker 1: dirt dirt Rizard and just the family right yeah, but
Speaker 1: yeah we're from the state though, from the Stapleton from
Speaker 1: the Hill. And and how how far is that a way? Walking?
Speaker 1: Is like what? Right? Like but like Sam minutes ten minutes?
Speaker 1: I'm like that, Yeah, you don't went to the same school.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry you said to stay to the park else
Speaker 1: for team minutes away? Just moving over here, that's walking.
Speaker 1: We didn't like five minutes. If you let's than that
Speaker 1: you're driving so so so um, yeah, we went to
Speaker 1: school night centers and all that ship like that. But
Speaker 1: like I tell people, it's like, yo, it was just
Speaker 1: something about them in the eighties. They just had that.
Speaker 1: It was some flashit about them like Park Balleys, Clark,
Speaker 1: Silk Song, Go front slide, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like David they was getting. Is that where the Wolf
Speaker 1: Store winded up being that woof stores on the first
Speaker 1: few stores on victims. Yeah, yeah, it's a bunch of yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was a victim. Yeah. And you're too oldest to
Speaker 1: your two brothers. Yeah yeah, so you always have the
Speaker 1: hold of that. Yeah for the most part. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: you know we were those are the all I got
Speaker 1: is you days, you know what I mean. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was the days of real life days right there, Like
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So so yeah, that that
Speaker 1: that was very important part of my life right there,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, running the streets being the
Speaker 1: oldest and you know, having to check your brothers, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, family and ship you know. Now
Speaker 1: I go, yes, household was crazy, you know me, But um,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, A long had another plan,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. That's where we have right now,
Speaker 1: so let me ask you out both of this question. Right,
Speaker 1: you're both trying to come off. Just a video comes out?
Speaker 1: Do me? Come do come? Yeah, come doing me. When
Speaker 1: I came out, yo, I was happy, Yo, and I've
Speaker 1: seen that. I was like, this came out after I
Speaker 1: came or this is before. This is like the first. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was the first though, But when I first heard it,
Speaker 1: it was like because we already knew he knew how
Speaker 1: the round. But when he did the shop, when he
Speaker 1: did the video and all that, and he caught the deal,
Speaker 1: I was I was already on the same page with
Speaker 1: Rizen them, like really just watching them niggas from the side,
Speaker 1: like way before the woe days. I'm watching these niggas
Speaker 1: like these niggas especial right here, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So when jess you know, he did the video shoot
Speaker 1: Riz it called me then, so he was like, yo,
Speaker 1: video huh Riz, Well you know riz Riz risen from stating,
Speaker 1: you know, but jess is his first cousin and you
Speaker 1: know them, they always had that relationship. So it seemed
Speaker 1: like Rizzle was already paying attention to what Jessu was
Speaker 1: about because he taught him out a round too, you
Speaker 1: know what j rizide irund, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: and he gave him knowledge or shelf. So it was
Speaker 1: like that was somebody who he really loved. And it's
Speaker 1: like when he caught the deal, it like Rizzle was
Speaker 1: coming back to the neighborhood saying like, Yo, you know
Speaker 1: my cousin is in you know what I mean. Boom
Speaker 1: boom boom. But at that yeah, he was in yeah
Speaker 1: Brooklyn Kit. So you know, we knew Jig from the block.
Speaker 1: But Jiser never really hung out like that and stat
Speaker 1: down because he had a sister lived doctor. So it's
Speaker 1: like watching watching Riz and j a connection. I'm sitting
Speaker 1: over there like a fly on the wall, like, Yo,
Speaker 1: this name got a record deal. Like we see the album. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we wrong lobbying and we canet lobby boys, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: it's like big up Jim and man, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm But it's like, you know, for us just to
Speaker 1: see somebody that we know from the community, you know,
Speaker 1: with the record deal, that ship kind of like I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, ship, you see the album covering? She
Speaker 1: let me see the album cover, you know, looking at
Speaker 1: the credits and oh this ship is for real, This
Speaker 1: ain't no no floozy ship, you know, and automatic glee.
Speaker 1: You know, it was a certain attraction that I had
Speaker 1: to both for them because I felt like, wow, I
Speaker 1: think just did something that nobody has stat now and
Speaker 1: never really did. On the rap tip, you know, we
Speaker 1: had to four some ds and all that I did,
Speaker 1: so they was already raining. But on the rap side
Speaker 1: of things, Jesse was the first one that we've seen
Speaker 1: that really accomplished something so automatically. You know, Rizzi he
Speaker 1: felt entitled to it because his cousin what was that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know, just just being able to see them
Speaker 1: had their own you know, creation made from a hip
Speaker 1: hop side automatically. I was intrigued by that. So they
Speaker 1: invited me to come to the come do me said,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, I was Nigga. I was there, Nigga
Speaker 1: go back to the ship again, you know, but I
Speaker 1: was the painting that like I was hating. But they
Speaker 1: asked me though, because it was like I remember, it
Speaker 1: was me dirty me dirty showed up, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. It was Rizzin me dirty and Rizzen going
Speaker 1: to just sh So they asked me. I remember they
Speaker 1: actually said, yo, you want to beat them, one of
Speaker 1: the main dudes in the video f and I was like,
Speaker 1: of course. I was like nah, I was shocked. Nah,
Speaker 1: I can't do it. I ain't even anything like that.
Speaker 1: So I was like, fucking, I'll played the painting role
Speaker 1: while he yeah, I picked it. It's dirty and dirty,
Speaker 1: did the role that they wanted me to do. At first,
Speaker 1: you know, you're dancing all in the middle of the video,
Speaker 1: but um yeah, that's when I was really just just
Speaker 1: wanting to just watch him from the outside in. But
Speaker 1: at that time, it was like I wasn't even really
Speaker 1: still trying to check for a record deal. I was
Speaker 1: watching my niggas do it to their best ability. So
Speaker 1: you know, but Jesser, he opened up the door for
Speaker 1: all of us to be motivated like that, you know,
Speaker 1: because once he passed the church to u rizer Rizon,
Speaker 1: once we knew he was fully in it. Then now
Speaker 1: sparks start flying now, you know, because that reminds me
Speaker 1: a story for me when I was in jail, I've
Speaker 1: got to see I canntly come out. I can let
Speaker 1: this from my neighborhood, from seven Street, I can at
Speaker 1: this from ninety nine Street. I believe it. If I
Speaker 1: got it wrong, sorry, but I Fleeve's Night nine Street.
Speaker 1: And one thing about I was I was in jail,
Speaker 1: so my appreciation might have been a little different. One
Speaker 1: thing about I was came out with the bomb baby,
Speaker 1: then he went straight into some vagina diner ship, and
Speaker 1: I was just like, that's not us, like, you know,
Speaker 1: that's not left right, that's not what we represent like
Speaker 1: and so it was a part of me that said,
Speaker 1: you know, minute I get my chance, I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: it my way. Was there anything that came across because
Speaker 1: both of those records, come and get me, what's it?
Speaker 1: Come and get comes? You come to me? I love
Speaker 1: your king right right does not reflect Wove Tank at all.
Speaker 1: So and there's the eighties when they came out right right, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: like so we love people kam ship right, what's one
Speaker 1: he did? He did off of the other Denise Williams
Speaker 1: joint right? Did you do that? Yeah? Before that came out,
Speaker 1: we used to be in the credit because Riz we
Speaker 1: used to go there and record. He used to made
Speaker 1: all the beats for like all the hill niggers, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Me all of a ship like
Speaker 1: that but he had to o we love it used
Speaker 1: to bang out like, oh we love you. It was
Speaker 1: fat over that barn, you know what I mean. Din
Speaker 1: he swings, so so I wasn't mad at him when
Speaker 1: he when when he did that, but he just didn't
Speaker 1: get the feedback like he wanted, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: He was to record. He was on time, me boy, yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think that was the last time he was
Speaker 1: one time to remember at that time though, you know,
Speaker 1: Kane and them was doing anything heavy and Kane had
Speaker 1: that female you know, he had that support. So a
Speaker 1: lot of them labels were still trying to follow that trend,
Speaker 1: trying to make jisser that way, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: not really paying attention to these niggas really being skillful.
Speaker 1: They're looking at it more like, Yo, we need somebody
Speaker 1: to come out on that on that lot, you know, Yo,
Speaker 1: we need you to be this radio king. So even
Speaker 1: though these brothers knew that they had the potential to
Speaker 1: do that, that wasn't really what they was there for.
Speaker 1: That's not really what they wanted to do. But you know,
Speaker 1: getting the record deal back then you're a blessed man,
Speaker 1: know what I mean. You know, so, yeah, so at
Speaker 1: that point, it's like, Yo, there ain't nothing for them
Speaker 1: niggas to write those kind of rooms and do it.
Speaker 1: And it's like I remember up in the hill we
Speaker 1: when we set and when he's like, you get the
Speaker 1: funk out of here with that ship, because we already
Speaker 1: knew he had the potential for some other's ship, like
Speaker 1: he had takes out there. That was yeah, I'm telling
Speaker 1: about residential. Both of them niggas like them niggas. We
Speaker 1: knew about their rhymes. So when they came with those records,
Speaker 1: we was like, this, that ain't going you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, not hating, but just being honest because we
Speaker 1: knew that that wasn't them. So I think they had
Speaker 1: to walk that path to be like, you know what,
Speaker 1: We're gonna try to do it they way, but if
Speaker 1: it didn't work, we gotta do what we want to do.
Speaker 1: Because that's my next question. Right, you got two of
Speaker 1: the two of the head honchos of the crew. They
Speaker 1: had a record there, but it actually doesn't work for
Speaker 1: the most part. I mean, they do come out, they
Speaker 1: do have a video, they do have a single, but
Speaker 1: they're not out the hood. What made y'all say I
Speaker 1: still believe in y'all because any most people, most people
Speaker 1: would say, you're already you already failed. Wa Like you
Speaker 1: pack bags. As soon as you got off the store,
Speaker 1: the bags broke. So it's either looked doubleing up on
Speaker 1: the bags, bag bags. What made y'all say, fuck it,
Speaker 1: let me double up on the back. They was ill.
Speaker 1: It was especially this ship. I heard it, just the
Speaker 1: just the rhalms along Genius and Resid. I'm a fan, yo,
Speaker 1: And it was like they were saying ship, deadly ship.
Speaker 1: Especially Genius he was saying deadly ship that could have
Speaker 1: hungay chaining them. That he just y y'all never knew
Speaker 1: that that they offered them to gonna be a part
Speaker 1: of the Juice crew just turned it down. It was
Speaker 1: like he was in he was in God dimension on
Speaker 1: some five percenting ship. But it wasn't like he was signed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you know, he was right there, but you know
Speaker 1: they wanted them to be involved, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But I guess for him, he was just in his
Speaker 1: own world and he was, you know, five percenting to
Speaker 1: the fullest. So you know, but we always knew they potential. So,
Speaker 1: like you said, when they came back around, what they
Speaker 1: You know, I wouldn't call it a failure. I just
Speaker 1: call it a They didn't that was in day Land.
Speaker 1: It wasn't a failure. But for us, it was like, yo,
Speaker 1: they represent Staton Alan, you feel me. Stat Allen was
Speaker 1: one of the last boroughs to even be heard of
Speaker 1: because Niggas was scared to get on the ferry and
Speaker 1: right across that water to come see us. So you know,
Speaker 1: our think was, Yo, they set it off. We got
Speaker 1: to hold them there by any means so they could
Speaker 1: come back. So we was. We were so happy for them,
Speaker 1: just because of the fact that you know, Niggas got
Speaker 1: a real certified record deal. You know, were in the
Speaker 1: streets still, we still running from T and T and
Speaker 1: you know, detectives coming up and down the block chasing
Speaker 1: they get. So to see that, it was like, oh, ship,
Speaker 1: whether you lost some one, you still want the US.
Speaker 1: And when I think my research, they said that they
Speaker 1: technically called stating on the most racist barrel that it is.
Speaker 1: Don't get locked up them, don't get locked up. And
Speaker 1: my mate, my man from Canada, not to cut you off.
Speaker 1: They locked him up for some weede right, And it's
Speaker 1: so crazy because you know he sat now and cops.
Speaker 1: They're funny. They're like, yo, you want to get out
Speaker 1: and work. There's a small ship. I'll worry about that ship.
Speaker 1: They had him like for like three days and ship.
Speaker 1: So you know he wasn't you know he for my Canada.
Speaker 1: He was like, yo. When he got out of it,
Speaker 1: he was like, Yo, I'm calling the fucking I'm calling
Speaker 1: the government on these things. They wrong, not right, he said, Yo.
Speaker 1: They put him in the cells and ship and piss.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, he was writing right in the right
Speaker 1: in the precinct. They was ragging him and like, you know,
Speaker 1: you know my brother that just came home, right, I
Speaker 1: got him with me. I want you to meet. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm so so so. I had one of my layid
Speaker 1: some man hand trying to come and take his case.
Speaker 1: Man lawyer came to stand down and and had to
Speaker 1: face he stand down and niggers. Well, yo, he said, yo,
Speaker 1: it's a it's a circle, a circle of them where
Speaker 1: they was like they was treating like ship would let
Speaker 1: the sneak get him getting there for nothing, like you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like yo, disrespecting him sat down. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a different way. He just gave my man twenty five
Speaker 1: years for body he didn't catch. He just came home,
Speaker 1: like he just came home literally like a year, and
Speaker 1: I had two years ago. So it's like he did
Speaker 1: all that time based on these niggas lives on nig
Speaker 1: He got generated, he got some actual innocence, innocence he
Speaker 1: didn't then wants you to say he gonna give him, Yo,
Speaker 1: what I mean? Yeah? He Yo, motherfucker's through an evidence away.
Speaker 1: The killer draft has hat. They picked up the hat
Speaker 1: you and the hat contained DNA. It's like, Yo, all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, they lost the hat. They lost the hat,
Speaker 1: and it's more ship than that. That's just the ship.
Speaker 1: I'm like, Yo, what the fuck you got the lady
Speaker 1: or the cop the lady on the ship talking about Yo. Yo,
Speaker 1: we're chasing him right now, nicking five five in a
Speaker 1: certain amount of waves. My man like skin is skinny,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? He ain't fat, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like Yo? Yeah, that now, and that's
Speaker 1: that's great system. The system. That's what every cop in
Speaker 1: the fun up cop. Yeah, you know what I'm saying that.
Speaker 1: But you know, back then, them cops show they was
Speaker 1: wearing their hats backwards. They meet you in the steadcase,
Speaker 1: like four thirty in the morning, they're smoking with the
Speaker 1: niggas parked. They fucking they scooted this and ship like
Speaker 1: ten blocks away because they know that. You know, if
Speaker 1: you see the schooter, they know they're around. Like these
Speaker 1: were these were different kind of cops, Like you'd be like, yo,
Speaker 1: this ship is parked behind the school and ship like
Speaker 1: SNI got his ship over there, sneaking up on niggas
Speaker 1: and there on the roofs and you know, being real
Speaker 1: bold with it. The cops is different out there, but
Speaker 1: then you had some nice cops too, you know what
Speaker 1: you know. But it's a system though, yeah, it's system,
Speaker 1: different system, it's all the system back then. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but back to the resident is a thing though. Like
Speaker 1: we said, we just we're just seen flowers around them,
Speaker 1: like yo, y'all golden. You know, y'all might have had
Speaker 1: to take those shots to really come back because me,
Speaker 1: I always used to tell them anyway when they was
Speaker 1: doing anything, like y'all, when y'all get it right, you
Speaker 1: gotta run through these blocks with us again because some
Speaker 1: of us that yeah, yeah, we was you know, mess
Speaker 1: my so goes deck. Niggas had tapes out in the
Speaker 1: street already, so it was like Rizzard knew about it.
Speaker 1: But at the same token, he was like to us
Speaker 1: the king of it because he had that situation already.
Speaker 1: So he knew about certain niggas because we was hearing
Speaker 1: yes ship when coming from Stapleton and they could be
Speaker 1: walking through with the radio. Yo, that sun, that's that
Speaker 1: stuff that sun. God. Yes, they had to weed up
Speaker 1: there and y'all projects had problems, right oh yeah, always
Speaker 1: always always always, So how the fun come close? Like this?
Speaker 1: How did this happen? It's like, uh together and them, Yeah,
Speaker 1: just like Rids brought it together because I knew they
Speaker 1: was nice. When did your first meeting? When did y'all two?
Speaker 1: First we were in the same school. We was in
Speaker 1: j J Junior Junior high school and all that grade nah,
Speaker 1: junior high was like yeah, yeah, yeah, we was like
Speaker 1: not in the dumb class, but we was in the
Speaker 1: class after the smart niggas after was yeah, because we
Speaker 1: was in like a yeah, we was writing in the middle.
Speaker 1: But now yo yo. Was so funny because because the
Speaker 1: school was like right across the street from his neighborhood,
Speaker 1: so you know, we all up and then ship the
Speaker 1: teacher and ship Niggas is snapping on the teacher all day. Yoda.
Speaker 1: That ship just made the teacher ill snap after that,
Speaker 1: like this snig he knew how to get busy, y know.
Speaker 1: He was saying crazy ship like nick come and looking
Speaker 1: crazy like yo, man, I had a shirt like that
Speaker 1: one soon and my mother got a job saying like that,
Speaker 1: like you're looking at him like she was like, go
Speaker 1: get your father, get your father. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah that's that's what's his name was, yeah, Mr Foster. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's following him home. Yeah yeah, definitely Black teacher ship
Speaker 1: though one he was live. But me and ghost you know,
Speaker 1: like I said, we was in the same classes, laughing,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, going to the lunch room.
Speaker 1: Niggas is showing what they're wearing, gelling and doing all
Speaker 1: those other ship. Yeah, I remember, I remember a ghost
Speaker 1: man and ships. His name is Sane. The Niggas came
Speaker 1: off with with um with a bag like a Brinks truck,
Speaker 1: like a Brinks truck at the corner and the bag
Speaker 1: fell out, the bag and Niggas can't I remember that
Speaker 1: ship clear his day because it was like it was
Speaker 1: it was like normal. It was like six staple ten
Speaker 1: niggas that came in with sheets his on the school
Speaker 1: like yo, yeah, niggas get this money from the nigga bag.
Speaker 1: How you know how you fold the hunting out the bills,
Speaker 1: make rings out of him. They came to school like
Speaker 1: that Gazales Big Puffy Goose song. It's like, yo, it
Speaker 1: was listening listen like I said it was. It was
Speaker 1: a bank on the corner right over there by um By,
Speaker 1: Um what's the name in the back of um Stapleton.
Speaker 1: It's a bank right this CNB Bank. And it's like, yo,
Speaker 1: the truck used to come through this they got the
Speaker 1: money some ship like that, but um word, I remember
Speaker 1: asking saying about it. He was like yo. He was
Speaker 1: on the corner wing for the busting company. He was
Speaker 1: like yo. The truck came swinging around the corner and
Speaker 1: the ship just fucking bust open and the fucking trade
Speaker 1: fell out. The niggas win and grabbed the tray. It
Speaker 1: was about like thirty grand That's what the niggas came
Speaker 1: to school first to day. I'm talking about VS. What
Speaker 1: about V goo sys Like you gotta remind you you know,
Speaker 1: this is like eighty four. You know she skin ship.
Speaker 1: You know if you had the sheepskin with these niggers
Speaker 1: had the mintens, nigga said, he said, he's thinking that
Speaker 1: had the socks on. Yo, he's y'all remember Beaver's Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know Suavee fronts. You know what I mean. That's
Speaker 1: when we was looking at these niggers like, yo, niggers
Speaker 1: that got me. They started, they got me stealing this ship.
Speaker 1: Then there's two different stealing rob Yeah, I didn't get money.
Speaker 1: Take one of these more lives. It's that good for
Speaker 1: the whiskey with it's no, not no, not no whiskey.
Speaker 1: I'm not ready to gluten heads whiskey. Baby, I don't,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't have man drink. Yeah, so ken't
Speaker 1: we talking about your can the other shot? So tell
Speaker 1: us about the video that the shot. Yo. We just
Speaker 1: shot this video for my record, um my album coming
Speaker 1: out called Scarlet Fever. The song the name of this
Speaker 1: song is called green Haven. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Just yeah, just thinking about our niggers and ship. But
Speaker 1: on the video is about it's like a poker game
Speaker 1: going on that I'm at at after I was spot
Speaker 1: and um, you know I'm I'm winning. I'm creaming him,
Speaker 1: and I get a drink, I get a complimentary drink,
Speaker 1: and and somebody puts something my drinking. Yeah, I was
Speaker 1: kind of funked up for a minute. So I'm trying
Speaker 1: to get back to the vehicle to kind of like
Speaker 1: revise myself with with some um, with something I had
Speaker 1: in the car that would help me, you know, rehabilitate myself.
Speaker 1: And you know next to you know, I didn't make it,
Speaker 1: but you know, some female that was up in the spot,
Speaker 1: she went down stairs with me, I guessing, you know,
Speaker 1: her own little way, and we can't revised me. She
Speaker 1: was able. I was hit me with the ir V,
Speaker 1: boosting me back up. So now I'm going back in
Speaker 1: there on some other ship, but still playing the game,
Speaker 1: like trying to figure out, you know, who did this
Speaker 1: to me. But um, it's just really like a combination.
Speaker 1: So it's called green Haven. Yeah, so um, you know
Speaker 1: the combination of the video is like, um, like a
Speaker 1: Casino royal mixed with like a good fella's robe, you know,
Speaker 1: pick shoot dog yeah, don shoot you know he can't
Speaker 1: through for yeah, but um, yeah, but you know, like
Speaker 1: I said, it's just something that. You know, I'm about
Speaker 1: to throw out, you know, just to get back on
Speaker 1: the scene and give Nigga some different ship to look at,
Speaker 1: getting some different ships to check out. So let me. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Look um, So we watched y'all do the verses. Okay, cool,
Speaker 1: y'all brothers, you gotta take shots to each other really,
Speaker 1: like dad, did we see these other brothers? We see
Speaker 1: them your dip session, the locks. You see the Fat Joe,
Speaker 1: the j'ab ruth, and they can take shots, still be friendly.
Speaker 1: We're still guarding each other. My question to y'all this
Speaker 1: with two men with y'all like to go against m
Speaker 1: HM in verses because y'all going against each other was
Speaker 1: it was beautiful? But we know your brothers. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: you know what. I don't know what happened because the
Speaker 1: origin promire with we were talking to Rigind like Yo, listen,
Speaker 1: you gotta do this and do that and do that
Speaker 1: thirties and you gotta be beasty up there. This COMMI
Speaker 1: is fucking crazy, you know what I mean? So Ray
Speaker 1: hit me with the ship like yo, I guess what
Speaker 1: wherethy was over? He was like, Yo, we should do it.
Speaker 1: We should do our own ship like you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. First he was like, yo, we should do it,
Speaker 1: We should do it on our own platform and should
Speaker 1: like go. You know, I'm like, you know what, that
Speaker 1: might be right, might be right, you might got some
Speaker 1: might you know, gut got something right there. So, um,
Speaker 1: I had check, I had check. I told check, and
Speaker 1: I guess he reached out to to Swiss like earlier before,
Speaker 1: way before we did this ship, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And then um, when you're saying tech DJ yeah, yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: because he DJ vote us two you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: South to check locks Rock Yeah, they did the fat
Speaker 1: Joshi Yeah exactly. So um, you know, one day I
Speaker 1: just got the call from Swiss. From Swiss, I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: salon lagom. He's like, you know what it is? You
Speaker 1: didn't got that voice sometimes Ship. I'm like, oh thick
Speaker 1: yeah yo yo yoo yo. Bone got right on the
Speaker 1: phone him and Rad shouted it up or whatever and
Speaker 1: then he got back to or something because the time
Speaker 1: it wasn't right and Ship around the time we did it.
Speaker 1: It was around that time he got back and Ship.
Speaker 1: So I don't know, like who we really would go
Speaker 1: going to ring with? I wouldn't I don't know, like ideas,
Speaker 1: I gotta tell he got I know who who that
Speaker 1: we had to go after? The locks man sticking too
Speaker 1: much in my mind right now, I thought, no, but
Speaker 1: why didn't come down? I was like that lot of
Speaker 1: styles and the locks is all three want to be
Speaker 1: a duel against. But it don't even manage it, you know.
Speaker 1: To me, it's like because at that time, I thought
Speaker 1: you couldn't come back again. I thought you I didn't
Speaker 1: know that because we're making up the rules just came about.
Speaker 1: I didn't, you know, I didn't, you know, because I
Speaker 1: just thought he just did fast and then and that's
Speaker 1: over with, Like you know what I mean. I didn't
Speaker 1: know you could come back again like they just said
Speaker 1: did like you one as. So it's so I'm dead.
Speaker 1: But he's right though, because he's right yo. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: that's I'm saying. He came he came back, he said that, mr. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's the only you know, because other than other
Speaker 1: than them, I don't really I'm gonna throw something out,
Speaker 1: yeah nah, you know, on different vibes, but that's not
Speaker 1: but see, you know, that's why he said. That's why,
Speaker 1: that's why you're thinking like a right, the locks because
Speaker 1: it's that same vibe, you know what I I mean, So
Speaker 1: it wouldn't need I don't see, I don't cast. I'm
Speaker 1: probably outcast. Is ill, don't they they're stupid ill. But
Speaker 1: you know it's a benefit the Dungeon family that gets brute.
Speaker 1: Is that the benefit because that probably would be ill
Speaker 1: old old up to somebody. The bug is right now
Speaker 1: going against three six moms momsy does are groups? You
Speaker 1: deal with the claim, you with the group, but just
Speaker 1: me and Raid, just me and Raid. I think you
Speaker 1: might gotta find like New York pieces. I like Styles
Speaker 1: and Kiss because it's like their unofficial group. That's not
Speaker 1: an official group. That's that's an official group, right, just
Speaker 1: like y'all group. It does really rup right, there's an
Speaker 1: unificial reservation that we should we should make a group.
Speaker 1: We should be a group that makes no sense and
Speaker 1: a lot of sense of the same time, because people
Speaker 1: going your ready ghost forever, we are never addressed. You're
Speaker 1: coming to fly nig or something like something. The strongest
Speaker 1: ship I mean I always I always looked at us
Speaker 1: is as Gambino men. You know we're Gambinos because it's
Speaker 1: like we grew up under that cold in the street,
Speaker 1: like the same way to mafia was and stat now
Speaker 1: because we we live like maybe like ten fifteen minutes
Speaker 1: wait for them niggas. So you know when I said
Speaker 1: who Gambinos, it's only because it made sense because I
Speaker 1: haven't I haven't knew this man enough to really love
Speaker 1: him at that time. But we do good things together.
Speaker 1: We know how to excel, we know how to grow,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I just looked at
Speaker 1: all my niggas like that, and that's what made Wuchang
Speaker 1: to me, was so ill because of the fact that
Speaker 1: you know, you had niggas that was doing their own thing.
Speaker 1: It wasn't even paying attention to connect them. So it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, you're hustling with niggas that you might not
Speaker 1: really love, but you love him now because y'all share something.
Speaker 1: So to me, it was always a crown family, like like, Yo,
Speaker 1: we knew this niy was dangerous, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's like, Yo, you might not even know it, but
Speaker 1: niggas is in the back of you, like check the
Speaker 1: snag out right. You keep an eye on him because
Speaker 1: he's want of them, you know what I mean. He
Speaker 1: could creak a snap in a minute. You know, he
Speaker 1: was looking at you like that, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: same way niggas is looking at everybody else. I remember
Speaker 1: one time Meth was mad at me and you know,
Speaker 1: he said some ship to me that he brought it
Speaker 1: back to the block and I'm like, wow, you bringing
Speaker 1: that up. You know what I mean, like you can
Speaker 1: bringing out. He was really tight with me and ship.
Speaker 1: He took it back to like, yo, Niggi, you was
Speaker 1: gonna do this to me? Like y'all, I would never
Speaker 1: do that. I love you, but did I have to
Speaker 1: think about it like you're frightened right like you would
Speaker 1: have probably wanted to try. And so you know that's
Speaker 1: what may gus a like a mobster click. Because everybody
Speaker 1: had their own walk. We had our own walk, and
Speaker 1: we came together. We all walked in that room together
Speaker 1: and agreed on something. So to me, We're gonna always
Speaker 1: be Gambinos, always be Gambinos, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Back to like the same, you know, and you know
Speaker 1: back to what I was saying about, you know, like
Speaker 1: he said, Yo, we new York, Maika. So for me,
Speaker 1: I like to see real battles. It ain't about it,
Speaker 1: bet I got weird. Yeah, that's and corrupt. Oh the
Speaker 1: mag it's dangerous, Toots corrupt. That's it. They're dangerous. Danger
Speaker 1: just made the match. I'm gonna get thirty per left
Speaker 1: like that. But so I love I love the lots Man,
Speaker 1: the Niggas. The Niggas is like us all we love
Speaker 1: him in real life. The box still makes me go right, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like fired. I don't get inspired by like rat
Speaker 1: no more, you know what I mean. But at the
Speaker 1: time when Biggie and Nas and you know what I mean, Mom,
Speaker 1: you would all the way, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: come on, Like it was like, okay, let me go
Speaker 1: and I and I'm looking forward your brothers albums coming
Speaker 1: MP hole. But that's all New York. It was. It
Speaker 1: was like that conglomerate. It was just like that conglomerate.
Speaker 1: But I don't I don't get it really that much
Speaker 1: inspired no more, Maybe because I'm not really hearing it
Speaker 1: go off like that because a lot of other ship
Speaker 1: is floating away or whatever. But um, when I hear
Speaker 1: a couple of pieces coming from Lax and all that
Speaker 1: ship like that, you know what I mean, It'll be like,
Speaker 1: oh ship, you know what I mean, and just you
Speaker 1: see in the garden like that, I can see. I
Speaker 1: can see y'all going against that isn't corrupted to I
Speaker 1: can see it because they got a lot of hits
Speaker 1: to anything is the opposite to track. Okay, I never
Speaker 1: looked at it from that lest yea a part of
Speaker 1: the whole rowhole. They could They can pull out a
Speaker 1: lot of things. Yeah, it's a lot of niggats to
Speaker 1: pull out. Yeah, it's a lot of niggas that could do.
Speaker 1: Ship to me, honestly, like, it's only about that list.
Speaker 1: But one thing I'm the one thing about the versus
Speaker 1: anybody could win if your list is right. It's all
Speaker 1: about your lists. So it ain't really about you getting
Speaker 1: blown your head getting blown off. It's just all about
Speaker 1: you being strategic with what you think he may come
Speaker 1: out with and encounter, you know what I mean. But
Speaker 1: it's changing also your showmanship now because like, yeah, but
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you. When they was doing
Speaker 1: all that, you know what i mean, whiling on each other,
Speaker 1: I respected because it was a knight of battling, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. When you're battling, you battling, even
Speaker 1: though it's friendly competition, Like, to be honest with y'all,
Speaker 1: Me and this man set it off with that because
Speaker 1: we was the ones that came before everybody else. So
Speaker 1: me knowing how important it is to see real competition,
Speaker 1: I knew I had to start talking ship with this
Speaker 1: dude because I needed him to know that, Yo, this
Speaker 1: is what the people want, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna give him that at its finest. And
Speaker 1: when I said I'm bringing my knife is because I
Speaker 1: know this niggers, I'm bringing my knife. I'm coming to
Speaker 1: cut you. So it's like you're getting cut and he's like, yo,
Speaker 1: you're getting shot. So we kind of like started the
Speaker 1: whole beef and atmosphere. But when I see everybody else
Speaker 1: going out and it's like it was interesting, it was fun.
Speaker 1: I knew they all loved each other. And then the
Speaker 1: day I was just hoping, like like Style said, nobody
Speaker 1: don't talk no Frank stand ship, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But the old hands like just in case, just in case,
Speaker 1: like the locks is overdone right now, it's mp a possibility, said,
Speaker 1: just a case of lock, because you know they did
Speaker 1: Jan Releasa and to keep it in New York just
Speaker 1: in case they don't like the Dazzer. It's mop options. Listen,
Speaker 1: everybody's an option. If you ask me, if you ask me,
Speaker 1: if you ask me, he said, he't battle anybody. He
Speaker 1: don't care if you But but but it's like it's
Speaker 1: it's for hip hop and it's and it's really just
Speaker 1: remembering the joints that we made that was moments. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't look at it like it's a hundred percent threat.
Speaker 1: You know, It's like watching the Cane and Caress. It's like, yo,
Speaker 1: we love both of them. That's how I look at
Speaker 1: us with the lots like yos, Like you want to
Speaker 1: have people, you don't have people say whatever, whether we battle,
Speaker 1: whoever we battle, but it's all about that fucking list.
Speaker 1: So you gotta make sure your lists like like a
Speaker 1: machine gun, especially for certain niggas. I want to see
Speaker 1: those fights. It's like when we go watch UFC fights
Speaker 1: or you know what I mean boxing. You want to
Speaker 1: see this ship. I want to see a nigga fighting
Speaker 1: nigga out man. I want to see the ship. So
Speaker 1: I know that you know that type of ship, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? How about being in a freeway,
Speaker 1: the basic freeway, who never thought about that neither officially
Speaker 1: that that's that's yeah, you're saying it's like big up
Speaker 1: to be the he out there right now. You don't
Speaker 1: say I hook that up. Yeah yeah, but too so
Speaker 1: you said being's freeway m O P or like what
Speaker 1: are you crazy? It's a lot of fun, that's a
Speaker 1: lot of love and ship yo. It just it just
Speaker 1: makes the sport more better. Like you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I love with kissing them, man, I love it. I
Speaker 1: love no saying it gave me a battery, gave me
Speaker 1: a battery, like from that ship looking at that ship.
Speaker 1: I even told Casted y'all went and like I told
Speaker 1: both of them, she think, like I go, like three dots,
Speaker 1: four dots just right after that, like you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, But it was like they shook the building,
Speaker 1: they showing them Joe. Yeah, everybody, it's making that ship
Speaker 1: more in But it's but like how Race said, it's
Speaker 1: the list. It's the list because your list, because if
Speaker 1: your lists, I had this, I spect I was going
Speaker 1: at the sneaker for his lips because I had then
Speaker 1: to be start you know what I mean, you know
Speaker 1: the other ship. Then he got Crimmy. Then he got
Speaker 1: this one and that when it was like, yo, I
Speaker 1: know I got records, you know what I mean? But
Speaker 1: Audi playing with Dad, you know that pieces still like
Speaker 1: Cuban Lynx is a motherfucker. So I'm like, what the
Speaker 1: fund can I do? I'm looking at him that every
Speaker 1: album ever did? You know what I mean? Real? You
Speaker 1: know what I mean saying real though, Like though, yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's the reason why, that's the reason why going
Speaker 1: a gainst each other, it's probably super harder than working
Speaker 1: with each other. Working with each other, right, it's still
Speaker 1: stopping sick what I'm saying, Like, obviously I've seen you
Speaker 1: do a show by yourself, ready to do a show
Speaker 1: by itself, and then I see y'all do shows again,
Speaker 1: and it's just it's something about you. It's just the
Speaker 1: same thing when I see Styles, it's the chemistry and Jada.
Speaker 1: That's exclude she sometimes, but it's just sometimes Styles and
Speaker 1: Jada just fit like a just fucking glove. And I
Speaker 1: watched some verses and when they did bad from TV,
Speaker 1: I watched she know when to fall back? He know
Speaker 1: exactly when the fallback, say a couple of Atlas and
Speaker 1: I'm sinking to my records I'm saying back, and I'm
Speaker 1: saying back like damn, she knew to fall the fun
Speaker 1: back and then kissing and went back and ship went
Speaker 1: back to back when they do it, and I'm like, waiting,
Speaker 1: superhero ship, this is some real superhero ship. Like yeah,
Speaker 1: so that's the reason why it's not money though, the money,
Speaker 1: but Joe, there might have been the realist names I heard,
Speaker 1: like come out the bank. So you know, I'm just saying, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But y'all, y'all to man,
Speaker 1: you win, yourn is me and pols over nay Man.
Speaker 1: That's so a little bit. I'll say you come on
Speaker 1: as a group. We're friends of matter. You can come
Speaker 1: back to your friends. This nigg let me tell y'all,
Speaker 1: let me tell drink chance. This ship, this nigger discography
Speaker 1: is dangerous. Like we said, it all goes back to
Speaker 1: that list about your wife. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I thought you, I thought you would see you gotta
Speaker 1: check coming. I don't know, I really tried to ye,
Speaker 1: that was a beautiful one then, but I was a
Speaker 1: beautiful one, good proper. He's on the bigger pastors. So
Speaker 1: Joe Budden's watch out, smash it must smash him. Always
Speaker 1: always a member. It's like going to the fights. Man.
Speaker 1: You want to see a fight, man, like you want
Speaker 1: to see spicion cross. Are you saying just you just
Speaker 1: get to the point. What y'are saying is I'll smoke
Speaker 1: your o. You can't with you. Let's doing fifteen times,
Speaker 1: you're doing fifteen times that It's okay, it's been not
Speaker 1: gonna just play with you. But yeah, actually moving off.
Speaker 1: So the Arizono Bridge, which you both sold papers on
Speaker 1: the arrison the bridge just you yeah, probably just me
Speaker 1: the paper. That's how long I knew Rizard, like because
Speaker 1: always we all. I probably might might have been what
Speaker 1: by like fourteen and some ship we were standing on
Speaker 1: the Arizonal Bridge, like you know, Nigga's got their bundles
Speaker 1: and ship and word for like fucking a dollars, some
Speaker 1: two dollars or some ship. But niggas yeah, like just
Speaker 1: you know, just trying to have a job and do something.
Speaker 1: But Nigga's to chase some money back then, you know.
Speaker 1: So um, you know, like I said with really he
Speaker 1: made me attracted the risen Jesse because Rizzin had a
Speaker 1: big family. You know, I don't have a big family.
Speaker 1: Like that. You know, I have a smaller family, and
Speaker 1: you know I always looked at them niggas like brothers,
Speaker 1: you know, big brothers and ship. Yo. Niggas always had
Speaker 1: ballets and ship, you know, swave fronts and you know
Speaker 1: we're going to school together. You know what I mean? Yo, Yo,
Speaker 1: you went east and ship you know, vice versa week.
Speaker 1: You know. But um, I've always seen the potential. Potential
Speaker 1: was there. But that's why their names are so close
Speaker 1: to Risdon and Jesse, because the niggas both those blades,
Speaker 1: they you know, and and eat and they own a
Speaker 1: little way. But it was it was this other dude
Speaker 1: that was so special. That was the heart of war.
Speaker 1: And that's rest in peace, old dirty bastard. That's the
Speaker 1: heartest I'm getting to that I won't us that's the
Speaker 1: heart of that. I'm getting to that we're about to
Speaker 1: get We've got to give these these these ball Okay,
Speaker 1: hold on, we're gonna do that. I'm gonna do that
Speaker 1: before Okay, But I want to get to you, Grease.
Speaker 1: What's your favorite movie? What was going to your favorite? Oh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was the ship. I didn't know that ship. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: of course, you know when we're going there on that lane.
Speaker 1: I still I would die. I wouldn't said shout out
Speaker 1: ray rayby watching some different ships raise a different nigg
Speaker 1: bro's nah, but you know that. You know, my favorite
Speaker 1: movie of all time is definitely Once upon a Time
Speaker 1: in America. You've seen that. You've seen that scene that
Speaker 1: that ship is like two scar faces right there, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean Mexican joint, that's yeah, yeah, but that one
Speaker 1: kind of yeah, that kind of inspired the Purple Tator,
Speaker 1: that inspired that. That was one of my favorite joints
Speaker 1: right there. But but what did you like about Greece?
Speaker 1: It's just, you know, I was a kid watching Greece,
Speaker 1: like just the whole fun of the way they was acting,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like Happy Days like the
Speaker 1: movie and ship you know what I mean. He wasn't
Speaker 1: watching the Happy Days. Yeah, it was nigg It was
Speaker 1: the first thing I've seen with a left on and jam.
Speaker 1: He had a ship cocked up to let's let's be real.
Speaker 1: He was. That's why I like Greece because it was
Speaker 1: like the niggas was like a crew kid. Then this ship,
Speaker 1: this nigga bag you know, turned out though in a
Speaker 1: good way, so it was like, I don't know, it
Speaker 1: just was. It was a dope movie. It's a kids
Speaker 1: movie if y'all want to go there. Ship. I like
Speaker 1: The Wizard of Oz Niger which one. Yeah, Stephanie Mills
Speaker 1: and all that. You've seen that, Diana Ross and yes,
Speaker 1: I like black You know what was sty Mills in
Speaker 1: the one with Diana Ross? Nah? Right? Nah? Nah? Diana
Speaker 1: wasn't she wasn't. It was dying. I think it was
Speaker 1: Michael and Diana the one and Jones, Ussy Jones, Michael Jackson,
Speaker 1: Diana Ross and um who else? Like that was the
Speaker 1: Nips Russey? Yeah, yeah, one man. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: great movies out there. Man, fucking man Cooley hot nigga,
Speaker 1: you know me, don't make it? Nah mean different about
Speaker 1: breaking breaking, breaking, break treats the better word through ship
Speaker 1: amer American, American blood, blood out actually fire Listen. We
Speaker 1: don't know if y'all know right, We know you know
Speaker 1: it your third, your third time on this show. We
Speaker 1: really appreciate this your first time on the show. But
Speaker 1: act you to know this that our show and any
Speaker 1: other category and any other genre of music, there's no
Speaker 1: such thing as called washed up or being here too long,
Speaker 1: it's only in hip hop. So we want to change
Speaker 1: that trajectory. We want to change that. And we wanted
Speaker 1: to give people their flowers. So when you hear people
Speaker 1: saying giving their flowers, we made that up. Now, we
Speaker 1: made up the statement. We made up making that famous
Speaker 1: because we wanted to look at the brothers in their faces,
Speaker 1: tell them how great they y'all, and not be ashamed
Speaker 1: of that. And we this is what we're doing with y'all,
Speaker 1: two brothers, We are not ashamed. Y'all two are the
Speaker 1: greatest to lyricists by yourself and together. So we wanted
Speaker 1: to get y'all, get you from us. You know, I'm saying, yeah,
Speaker 1: your motherfucking flowers opening up to your faces, the flower
Speaker 1: flowers trying to be a flower, and what the flowers
Speaker 1: organic food kings we gotta look at from bestball likings.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, at what the flowers? We asked the question,
Speaker 1: this is candy and sexist feeling flowers. Flowers, flowers they play,
Speaker 1: They last about five years. Yeah yeah, So in our eyes,
Speaker 1: it's like a prop you that we want to sack,
Speaker 1: thank you, because we don't, you know, let me let
Speaker 1: me keep with my emotions, like none of the thank
Speaker 1: y'all for joining us. We want we want year, We
Speaker 1: want y'all to really know because in all honestly, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: my peers, yeah, my brothers, you're my friends. But that
Speaker 1: doesn't take it away from your greatness. You understand I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I didn't do this interview saying that you know goes
Speaker 1: to my friend and raise my friend and then my brother.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna slack in no way shape form a fashion.
Speaker 1: That's not what I wanna do. I wanna I want
Speaker 1: to When we started this show, we wanted to say,
Speaker 1: you know what, our legends deserved this. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like a god bless you know the new dudes.
Speaker 1: But they can go to Anti Martinage, you can go
Speaker 1: to you know, the breakfast club or whatever. That's their platform.
Speaker 1: But where's our platform for after we we bought an
Speaker 1: ass and we're still looking good. We're still out here
Speaker 1: shine and we still got the best watches and the
Speaker 1: best jury on it, and we surpive where the focus
Speaker 1: to go? We are God blessed that because you know,
Speaker 1: rock the bells, uh follow suit and then so many
Speaker 1: other platforms that's following a suit of us. But we're
Speaker 1: the original. We what we wanted to do. We wanted
Speaker 1: to be here and we wanted to you know, give
Speaker 1: flowers to all yep, salute to prove your brothers. So
Speaker 1: we got a game that we play. This is where
Speaker 1: the story goes out after the flowers comes. So we
Speaker 1: gonna play a game. It's called Quick Time and Sun.
Speaker 1: No worry about it. We can play the game with y'all.
Speaker 1: So this is how they play the game. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: give you a two options, like I'll say watermelon or coconut.
Speaker 1: Just say coconut. Just say watermelon, no shot? What if
Speaker 1: you say no? I like watermelon and coconut, Did me
Speaker 1: take a shot? What you say? What if you say neither? Neither?
Speaker 1: So you just pick one? And did we move on that? Ready?
Speaker 1: All right? Cool? Let's not both questions, right, Just one
Speaker 1: and the one right we were always sucking out? Don't work?
Speaker 1: All right? Go on both of y'all this question just
Speaker 1: a or expected that. Here we go? Um, I go first? Yes,
Speaker 1: damn yeah. She let me tell you something. Senius Deck
Speaker 1: is the best leadoff man I've ever seen them on
Speaker 1: heard in my life. You know what I mean obamatonically,
Speaker 1: Trump leaders a hippoper even get yeah, hal philosophies, genius,
Speaker 1: he's the fucking New York Times. Yeah you really look
Speaker 1: with swords just like yeah, let me tell you his
Speaker 1: word play. I always wanted him, and not as to
Speaker 1: to getting there, you know what I mean? But who
Speaker 1: are you going with? It's like it's like Deck is
Speaker 1: a young jessup number one. Okay, you know Deck is
Speaker 1: very powerful when he has to be, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. He's dangerous on the mic, Jess, he's grandmasters,
Speaker 1: he's a monster. It's ship that you know, we still
Speaker 1: haven't heard from him that he come around. And just
Speaker 1: as the scientist, it's like his word play like who
Speaker 1: rhymes about animals? Like you don't rhyme about animals? That
Speaker 1: makes songs and concepts and this and that and then
Speaker 1: don't get me one. Ain't taking nothing away from aspect
Speaker 1: to Deck because like you said, he's a full time shooter.
Speaker 1: Yeah did he If he got to hit something, he
Speaker 1: gonna hit it. It's gonna get hit. But it's like
Speaker 1: whose word play can go deeper? Who got words? I
Speaker 1: wasn't never really good at words. That's why I'm like
Speaker 1: Damn mustil have just been in school just paying more
Speaker 1: fucking attention, you know what I mean? Like it because
Speaker 1: it's my vote capitary. Wasn't it like that? And it's
Speaker 1: been troubled for a lot my motherfucker's you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? But I would have to probably on this
Speaker 1: one been Sugg. That's just yeah, you're doing the same
Speaker 1: thing to see him and Paul kill nigger. So deck
Speaker 1: is a Paul Kill nigger, but nigga territorial territorial. That
Speaker 1: is dangerous. Man, y'all go back and listen to some
Speaker 1: of the ship he did on the first album. It's
Speaker 1: like we always knew he was strong. He got like
Speaker 1: that too once he came home from jail too. It's
Speaker 1: like it's like that bid did something tune. But you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: I probably would go with I would probably go with
Speaker 1: what's her name? Man, you don't fully want to say it.
Speaker 1: I got your back, I got your back. Let's take
Speaker 1: a drink for that. This one is a little easier
Speaker 1: marb deepo m o pa. It's easier for the wolfs
Speaker 1: drinking what whatchever way you listen to like no, because
Speaker 1: those are those are just like it's really like it's
Speaker 1: your preference. You know, empis fucking this is like stop
Speaker 1: the ship out. That's sometimes say like streets of streets,
Speaker 1: the lots of streets is just like yo co buck
Speaker 1: mong you know what I mean. It's gotta be a
Speaker 1: good battle boot, you know, yeah exactly. But it's not
Speaker 1: like you're taking the shot goes in MOKEI in mar
Speaker 1: b shot. Yeah, I got t take a shot. Shot here.
Speaker 1: We take a shot with you. We take a shot
Speaker 1: with you. A baby shot, yeah, baby shot, baby shots,
Speaker 1: just walking shot, baby shots as well, because shots to
Speaker 1: shot don't have the baby shots. This is half time
Speaker 1: right here, because it's like solo alright, no down. So
Speaker 1: I was love a little love is love al right
Speaker 1: home m hm see you're coming up with interesting ship,
Speaker 1: so you know, make it fun. Man, that's with their
Speaker 1: brainstorming ship. Really he's trying got big pun or bis markets.
Speaker 1: Now when you get that from rest in piece the books,
Speaker 1: your preference, it doesn't matter. I always gonna go first, right,
Speaker 1: I don't know why. I'm sorry, you got sorry. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, right, I'm sorry. I'm coming for you doing that,
Speaker 1: damn you know what I mean? I might I might
Speaker 1: got taken another shots. But you know what, Pam was
Speaker 1: crazy lyrical ship like road ship like you just roll
Speaker 1: roll Rode. Favorite ship was Italy No damn. But you
Speaker 1: know what, I'm eighties. I'm eighties dude two at the
Speaker 1: same time, so it's like big bids like getting my
Speaker 1: soul too with you, like like like like you got
Speaker 1: I got more moments, you know what I mean, because
Speaker 1: that's when you're squaring all that was ringing off and
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like you know all that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it just just when you was out there hustling, it
Speaker 1: was like when you heard doom doom doom, Doom, Doom doom,
Speaker 1: doom doo doom doo doom. He's it's like it was moments.
Speaker 1: It was more, it was moments. It was moments. It
Speaker 1: was moments. So who are you going for? Coming home? Listen?
Speaker 1: I love how the game. I gotta go bis okay,
Speaker 1: I love pun. I love just moments though, it was
Speaker 1: like growing up, like they're like you more men the
Speaker 1: vapors because you know what I mean, I know people
Speaker 1: still have the vapis like exactly Pump Daddy or Shug
Speaker 1: Shug s Puff. You know why because when we hit
Speaker 1: that Social Awards that that year. I ain't like that
Speaker 1: ship should pulled off. Ya was at the Social Awards
Speaker 1: when he said, yes, wrote black down like two niggas.
Speaker 1: You know what. I've never had anybody that was actually there.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but he was this. This is in the scene.
Speaker 1: He was a wardship. Oh damn. I'm so sorry. It's
Speaker 1: called quick times, but we need to hit it stark, Okay,
Speaker 1: what I was in jail, yeahs because regardless of what
Speaker 1: you know, when you RELs came and I said that
Speaker 1: skit on there in all this other ship like that,
Speaker 1: that kind of was still in the A and ship,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You said, y'all a bad
Speaker 1: boy the same level. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you say that
Speaker 1: a little out of I'm gonna be a bad boy.
Speaker 1: I'm a bad boy right there, Like I'm uh. At
Speaker 1: that time, I was waiting forward to get set it
Speaker 1: because you set it off, like yo, funk that you
Speaker 1: know me, because you're in New York now right doing
Speaker 1: that ship, you know what I mean? Like yo? And
Speaker 1: then you know they did what they did and nothing
Speaker 1: jumped off. But I was there with that ship like that,
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean, like fucking yo. I mean,
Speaker 1: we was in the building, had everybody came black down
Speaker 1: just because you know what I'm saying. But respectfully, sho
Speaker 1: this new y'all. He didn't hate this a particular part
Speaker 1: of me. Yeah, but at that see him different. Like
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking to my heart, it's like, Yo, nigga,
Speaker 1: you were here, nigga, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 1: that's how I was like, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: But I get it. He this, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But then after they Snoop came down and kicked the
Speaker 1: buildings down and ship you know what I mean. But
Speaker 1: math is on that same hour, right, so you know,
Speaker 1: but yeah, which is that? Just because that's it? That's
Speaker 1: it was all. Remember I did L A L A.
Speaker 1: So that's it was all bugged out to me. You
Speaker 1: did it after before but the buildings Yeah, no, the
Speaker 1: song came out he did we did L A L
Speaker 1: A immediately they dropped New York, New York. We never
Speaker 1: so they kicked the buildings down first, then they keep
Speaker 1: the building. But the song, the song your wasn't necessarily
Speaker 1: this wasn't just lyric It was video. The biggie said,
Speaker 1: these dudes are shooting video and what was it? No,
Speaker 1: it was willias Burg. It was in Brooklyn where they
Speaker 1: got shot at. It spread up, excuse me, spread Hook,
Speaker 1: So this is gonna happen. So the boys from bread
Speaker 1: Hook let it up. That's when the video turned into
Speaker 1: a bad video. That's when we turned our video to
Speaker 1: a bad video. But we just responded. So it was
Speaker 1: a little differul But I was a day at that
Speaker 1: sort of wards I've never were and it's not the
Speaker 1: same social wards where our casts just want to say
Speaker 1: South has something to say that that's a different one,
Speaker 1: a different it is. It was oh man, that's the
Speaker 1: story goes five five. Everybody felt some kind of way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we smoke, were smoking weed in there, like in the
Speaker 1: in the in the ceremony joined they's just over there
Speaker 1: blowing in the corner. Security. It's not security, Yeah, everybody's security.
Speaker 1: Everybody's the old security. It's not that, y'all. There's no
Speaker 1: one whoop na. But we was in the building, dough Oka.
Speaker 1: That ship was kind of bugged out. That that day
Speaker 1: was kind of blugged out. Okay, moving on nineties Verse
Speaker 1: two thousand, Hip Hop m nineties and the reason why
Speaker 1: I'm saying that is because it was a lot more
Speaker 1: creativity going on, you know what I mean, meaning like,
Speaker 1: you know, you had niggas talking tough and slick and
Speaker 1: all that, but everybody had hit records. You know, everybody
Speaker 1: had hit records. Like we could swing it, we could
Speaker 1: spin the bottle. Everybody was really raining at a certain time.
Speaker 1: But you know, two thousand hip hop, you know, it
Speaker 1: became more mainstream faster than what we did because we
Speaker 1: were still covering a lot of ground just being created. First.
Speaker 1: We wanted to be creative. Niggas believed in the albums,
Speaker 1: Like Yo, we wasn't trying to get over with one joint.
Speaker 1: We wasn't trying to come to the show lives singing,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It was like it was
Speaker 1: a certain gladiated school that was, like he said earlier, Yo,
Speaker 1: certain niggas that inspire you, like when we're saying listen
Speaker 1: to you know, Nori and the Reunion and the Wall Report,
Speaker 1: and it's like, Yo, nigga's run back home and start
Speaker 1: digging in their own pens. So that's to me, I
Speaker 1: don't see that that wasn't really the chemistry in two
Speaker 1: thousand and more like the like they shood, but didn't
Speaker 1: get a lot of them, wasn't You're born when he
Speaker 1: was out right, So you can't can't. You can't take
Speaker 1: nothing away from them, But you can still have your
Speaker 1: own opinion about it, even because you say that I'm
Speaker 1: looking at the tunnel. We need a tunnel, baby doing
Speaker 1: anything like yo now, you know, I mean, it is
Speaker 1: what it is now, But it was just a certain
Speaker 1: aura back then, like certain ura, like you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, So you know, just nowadays it's cool. Don't
Speaker 1: get me wrong. I'm not just the younger cats because
Speaker 1: that's another generation, right, there's generation. Nothing will never stay
Speaker 1: the same. So this is what we're dealing in right now.
Speaker 1: You gotta learn how to be amongst them now. At
Speaker 1: the same time, still be yourself, like you know what,
Speaker 1: So you know that's why you dropped jewels on him
Speaker 1: and work with these cats and do what he's doing.
Speaker 1: But but as far as for me feeling, I was
Speaker 1: feeling like however, he was saying like yo, dots is
Speaker 1: going yo ship. Nor we just dropped nines and dropped
Speaker 1: me and that ship. You know what I mean? I
Speaker 1: see you always you always got those dudes that look
Speaker 1: for those you know what I mean, those trail Blazers.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like how we love the Knicks forever.
Speaker 1: You know, we're doing good this year. We're doing good
Speaker 1: this year. It can't stop so far. You know, it's
Speaker 1: not every time I say we're doing good this part
Speaker 1: in fact, um Snoop or Buster and what whatever category
Speaker 1: you wanted to be bust machine, they both machine, but
Speaker 1: Snooper's like, yo, what do you mean, starpower whatever whatever.
Speaker 1: There's nobody beating bust and perform. I don't. That's why
Speaker 1: I agree with you. Motherfucker's scared to go against bus
Speaker 1: even the right now. Like I tell you, I see,
Speaker 1: I don't know who could go with the bus. Maybe
Speaker 1: you miss Elliott meeting, you know what I mean? I said, Wow,
Speaker 1: I knew somebody, but y'all was like, niggas was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I said a little Wayne said, Little
Speaker 1: Wayne is my Nigga's a clever fox. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Oh you be records. I'm saying just going
Speaker 1: out Just al right, I got you hits, Just stay creativeness.
Speaker 1: They they creative ship. I never put L two oh
Speaker 1: l la. You know I would have put I would
Speaker 1: have put can arrests against Buster. No, I would have
Speaker 1: put arrest against l L. Yeah, that can arresting. L
Speaker 1: L did that and let King and figure it out.
Speaker 1: Kane Rock Kim was the battle everyone wanted to see,
Speaker 1: even though we set on spencing. It was great battle.
Speaker 1: And Kim is the ward of the words. Smooth dudes.
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think Caro said, and yeah,
Speaker 1: but let's stick this stopid Snoop and and and and
Speaker 1: and my god, I'm you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: I said, ain't nobody messing with And I think Snoop
Speaker 1: even know that when it comes to like as far
Speaker 1: as performing, you know what I mean, and ship like that,
Speaker 1: but star power. Snoop got star power. You know what?
Speaker 1: Nobody more favorite that Snoop. Yeah. Snoop is like one
Speaker 1: of the most biggest fucking bus. Corona commercial, Corona commercials
Speaker 1: and all this other ship Snoop did he said, Corona convercial. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he got the busts that thin coronavirus. He had a
Speaker 1: commercial ed the Corona for the help. He went to him,
Speaker 1: right to Na. So you know, I don't know that's
Speaker 1: why it's paints man. And if I got to you
Speaker 1: don't know. That's the shot. Shot. And if you don't know,
Speaker 1: you think you shot to no problems? Yeah, yeah, no problem,
Speaker 1: no problem. Shot. Okay, you had to take a shot, right,
Speaker 1: but that's hold was strible. But why you don't gotta
Speaker 1: take the shot? No, because because it's you I've seen.
Speaker 1: I think he does made that up. I was talking
Speaker 1: around Stolottle, my brother st Little Stottle, selling don't soon, man,
Speaker 1: eybody gotta take the shot. Yeah you yeah, look at
Speaker 1: you Latifa or Light and I love them both. Light
Speaker 1: at the four you take your baby shot. Go damn, man,
Speaker 1: that's the baby shot. Goes good. That's a hard one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: your teeth for our teeth. It was a voice mag
Speaker 1: like when I think a lot of teeth. That was
Speaker 1: in my mind right there. Just you know, you know,
Speaker 1: Light was hard as a rocking Now. I was locked up.
Speaker 1: I think I sixteen. I heard when I first heard
Speaker 1: of a cram to understand you that was the ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, he placed impiable of oar where I first
Speaker 1: saw the niggain he tried to play, y'all. That was that.
Speaker 1: I meant my scene in the rooftop back in the days.
Speaker 1: This was the Cookine and Polo Google stays though. You know,
Speaker 1: like we said, we used to stoop it up there
Speaker 1: to um up the hall of a Huntred fifty used
Speaker 1: to be the school for the rocks, right yeah, right there,
Speaker 1: the rucker we was in, the rucker before the Rutger
Speaker 1: was the rucker we was up in the each is
Speaker 1: just cooling out up there, just getting high before we
Speaker 1: gonna win the route, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: we used to be up there nigga's be getting right
Speaker 1: and then walk across the street right in the roof top.
Speaker 1: But now I remember the first time I've seen um
Speaker 1: mc light doing ship. She had of a law suit
Speaker 1: on chain on. Her voice was ill, yeah, but I'm
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with light light. But the queen is
Speaker 1: the queen though two, so I don't know what the funk.
Speaker 1: Matter of fact, I got, I got a lot up.
Speaker 1: I gotta press that button back with that. But I'm
Speaker 1: looking at both of them. Is love cheeking love? Um,
Speaker 1: I might got I might gotta agree with Ray with
Speaker 1: this with the light. Yeah, I gotta rock ya gotta
Speaker 1: get a rough neck, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: rough neck. And and and cram to understanding. You can't
Speaker 1: cram the understand you Yeah, self destruction and all this
Speaker 1: ship right all right on? Yeah getting good? Okay, excuse
Speaker 1: me DMX or Tupac he said, then Max a Tupac,
Speaker 1: But come on, like what else like like like like
Speaker 1: like and what like who whatever? You want to be
Speaker 1: in your mind because Tupac, you know, he was like
Speaker 1: he was like he was sitting here on something. The
Speaker 1: vote for scenting will get me wrong because because X
Speaker 1: almost had me prime one day, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: but always had me from yeah like that, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. But his records when they ring off
Speaker 1: in the club, it was bigger. I never got to
Speaker 1: see pot perform, ok. But Pop was like I gotta
Speaker 1: see experform because he me not I got Sepopo. I
Speaker 1: never met never met Pop. Yeah, I met him one
Speaker 1: time at the source of Wars. We're walking. He's walking
Speaker 1: past the same source of ward. No no no, no,
Speaker 1: no no, because they had a cage up there on
Speaker 1: some free pop shot. Yeah number But now I walked
Speaker 1: by a pop not at that, not not the short
Speaker 1: was we're talking about, because remember when they was upstre performing,
Speaker 1: there was a cage up there. Yeah, I wasn't even Yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah I met the n Yeah you probably met him,
Speaker 1: but you got another another, another, another event, probably because
Speaker 1: ninety five wasn't the first one, right right, Nah, I
Speaker 1: think ninety four was the first one. We finally met
Speaker 1: him in there. But yeah, we just met on the
Speaker 1: walk bottle. You know, I'm gonna drink to that. We
Speaker 1: met on the ward by Yo, we suping up one boom.
Speaker 1: That's it. Yeah, that was it though. We're just moving
Speaker 1: in all respect. So who are you gonna do next?
Speaker 1: No as a hole? No, no, no, So when did
Speaker 1: you pick? Yeah? Whatever, that's no to that. Okay, take
Speaker 1: a baby shot. You gotta go crazy. Hey, I got
Speaker 1: to gird you. Take a baby shot. You ain't wet,
Speaker 1: have to go crazy. I think you know what? Could
Speaker 1: I take a ship of this one? Cool salute cheers,
Speaker 1: solo soloect hold on moving up, motherfuck this this should
Speaker 1: be easy. Evil missy miss And that's no disrespect. You
Speaker 1: know that. I'm just looking at everyone knows that catalog, catalog,
Speaker 1: that ship, just like that. I love missy missy though. Okay,
Speaker 1: yeah we're funny. This this is for you, Ghost, Marvin
Speaker 1: Gay or Stevie wonder. Oh, I'm sorry, were trying to
Speaker 1: get you to drink. In case you don't know, I'm
Speaker 1: figured you about it. I'm gonna took it out. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have to go, Steven Stevie, you know Stevie Stevie Catalogs.
Speaker 1: It's crazy, right, it's crazy. But Marvin is that naked
Speaker 1: over But yeah, it's like I can't but but I'm
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to go. I'm gonna have to go. Steven.
Speaker 1: He minds is just pulling me a shot. We all drinking.
Speaker 1: It got you gotta you gotta hit it because yeah,
Speaker 1: but I feel I hold one. Do it quick time
Speaker 1: up Stevie and Steve. I'm wanna show you exactly where
Speaker 1: we ship after Stephen all that ship. Can you get
Speaker 1: out of that chair, this little side of the slide alright,
Speaker 1: already hold on, hold up, so now that we're going
Speaker 1: to executive talk Steve Rifkin and Russell Simmons, you know what,
Speaker 1: two good brothers and two good brothers. You know, I
Speaker 1: don't know if I Steve put a song and ship
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You don't want to make
Speaker 1: it seem like it's just like that, but you know
Speaker 1: what we got history. I gotta take a ship to
Speaker 1: that or something, you know what I mean. Because Russell
Speaker 1: was sucking death jam you know what I mean, Emmon Reuben,
Speaker 1: So yeah, I was there, you know. Yeah, see so
Speaker 1: so we're taking a shot. I don't know. I was like,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? But you know what, I
Speaker 1: know what I know. I know, Ricky, I learned from
Speaker 1: Stephen from Russell Russell like they like the golf offers
Speaker 1: and Steven absolutely, yeah, of course, I mean, Russell is
Speaker 1: the Bluepriner Exactly. I'm gonna go I'm gonna go for
Speaker 1: Russell's only because they've seen something that created a movement
Speaker 1: in hip hop. They was the pioneers of that. They
Speaker 1: bridge that, you know, and Russell he had a lot
Speaker 1: to do with believing in it on top of knowing
Speaker 1: his brother. You know what I'm saying, this baby brother
Speaker 1: get busy. You know what I'm saying, is his brother
Speaker 1: get busy. Yeah, you know, so they hold vision back
Speaker 1: then was so ill that it that I don't even
Speaker 1: think they knew that they was gonna create a job
Speaker 1: where that was gonna be the way it is today.
Speaker 1: Because we're talking forty years ago, thirty years we talk
Speaker 1: about to us. So I'm going for Russell because of
Speaker 1: the legacy that they created for us. Okay it was
Speaker 1: manic are ready to die no matter that fact. No,
Speaker 1: you aren't gonna say that relations because I'm coming back. Okay,
Speaker 1: we come back to me. Yet, I'm gonna go with
Speaker 1: all mannic I like major or independent yea, m h nowadays,
Speaker 1: whatever you want mm hmm independent, independent. What's up right?
Speaker 1: These majors robbing the ship out you to keep your
Speaker 1: fucking masters. They're doing all this other suckers ship, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Now, maybe if you maybe if
Speaker 1: you had a he was on the major and they
Speaker 1: rock with you, like one year just to get your
Speaker 1: name up. It didn't go indie, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: That's kind of even. Maybe two years, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, get you too, just too two albums and
Speaker 1: you go to the major to take advantage of that
Speaker 1: ship and your favorite. Why would you want to do that?
Speaker 1: I'm saying, the deals in your favorite or that boy.
Speaker 1: If you're already good, right, right, right, if you go
Speaker 1: then to get what you think right? You know, Andy
Speaker 1: is always good, but Major is just a lesson, you know,
Speaker 1: It's a lesson. It's a lesson that comes out of that.
Speaker 1: It raises you to be intelligent and gives you a
Speaker 1: blueprint on how to learn about business. So I probably
Speaker 1: to probably sacrifice that way just to learn a little
Speaker 1: bit more, you know. But independent is my ship. So
Speaker 1: at the end of the damn a drink on that one,
Speaker 1: I don't mind taking a drinks that. I don't expect
Speaker 1: that now you ain't gonna okay, you ain't gonna because
Speaker 1: the first except drinking. Yeah, oh yeah, no no, because
Speaker 1: I'll let you get away with the two. Okay, our
Speaker 1: Green or Teddy pennograph slaps Green and tandyman the broken Heart.
Speaker 1: You know what, I'm gonna go Teddy. I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: Teddy based off the catalog and based on come in woman,
Speaker 1: that tax that nigga, That nigga is scared to ship out?
Speaker 1: You be you, Nika said, turned off the lights man,
Speaker 1: Oh ship scared to burn off? Like that said, Oh
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go my mama, you said, henna exist all right,
Speaker 1: this one. I don't know where you're gonna go with
Speaker 1: this one. The box or video music box, d box,
Speaker 1: video box video or video that was easy rock mana Rolex. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's that was that was playing on TV out of
Speaker 1: out of New York. You ain't order the box was
Speaker 1: actually the box V. No that's what I'm saying. It
Speaker 1: was New York. No, no, no, that's what we're saying.
Speaker 1: You order your own video on the box. Na. I
Speaker 1: never said what you have that w HT and some
Speaker 1: box playing like like videos and no. Ship was an
Speaker 1: order of that ship and the labels were dumb mad
Speaker 1: money to Yeah you're going with Ralph okay, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, Biggie a big out either one of you
Speaker 1: big okay, yeah, big Scarface, ice Cube Scarface. Who see
Speaker 1: he's a great contentment man. This Yeah, that's the type
Speaker 1: ship you're about drinking all right now, Now do a
Speaker 1: baby shot, do a baby shot and season yeah, hold on,
Speaker 1: let me come on, come on, come on, give me
Speaker 1: a season of that type of ship. You know. Man,
Speaker 1: that's a good one. That's a good one. Yeah, come on,
Speaker 1: I'm minded to take a shot. Look, it's a good
Speaker 1: one right here. We heard here exactly producing your supreme
Speaker 1: clientele too. Kanye Off a real for real talking about
Speaker 1: the speech. I mean kind I'll eating some something like yo,
Speaker 1: who got the bigger name or just beats like you
Speaker 1: listen you to Iron Man, whatever the funk you want
Speaker 1: to take, We're gonna go. Whatever the fun, whichever choice
Speaker 1: you're gonna with, we vote on with And it's a
Speaker 1: percent true. He's doing he's executive producing. Uh no, I'm spoking. Okay, Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we put listen for listen. It's happening. Were spoke. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know you know what that man, We put it
Speaker 1: into the Floras man. Yeah, it's happen. I love I
Speaker 1: love him, I love I love him both though, but
Speaker 1: you know what, uh, easy, easy, my got this one. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: hold on, yeah, right, who is it again? Farrell, Farrell, Farrella,
Speaker 1: Kanye what, whichever, whatever, whatever, whatever, I'm gonna go with you.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with you, Okay, Coogi Wrapper Masters, m hmm,
Speaker 1: g rap I love master as I love you. Got
Speaker 1: podcast on radio podcast only because I feel like you
Speaker 1: could say, you could curse and you could just really
Speaker 1: be yourselfish. It's a better expression. It ain't like it's
Speaker 1: it's being governed. You know, you gotta listen to the
Speaker 1: same ship every fifth seen minutes. You know, I'm good.
Speaker 1: Here's a good one you called this earlier. No over
Speaker 1: no damn yeah, great answer that. Just give me a drink. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I love that you're playing the game. I love that
Speaker 1: you're playing again for me one too. I'm drinking what
Speaker 1: you give me, fucking drink man, Give me a fucking drink, man.
Speaker 1: I love both of them brothers, and put me a
Speaker 1: little ice and cold. Came in and walked his dog,
Speaker 1: walked his dog. Yeah, he walked his dog. He came
Speaker 1: in and and and came in just like us. That
Speaker 1: was my boss at one time. You don't messed calling
Speaker 1: boss what and nigger got a sign off for me?
Speaker 1: Tick you some money or do whatever I gotta do
Speaker 1: my boss. Uh. I hope he liked that. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: might be trying to play, but he not being right
Speaker 1: right right right right because he was no. But but
Speaker 1: but put you my boss, so you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: The funk out you said, yeah, and I wasn't playing neither.
Speaker 1: I'm serious, you know what I mean? But um, yeah,
Speaker 1: and NAS is a fucking they're both lyrical geniuses and
Speaker 1: ship so nas and hoping with a right a right
Speaker 1: here right, here's here's this one. Yeah. Fourth the site
Speaker 1: for or True Master oh, True Master made a lot
Speaker 1: of joints. Fourth made mad joint Sue both made im possible,
Speaker 1: and all of them ship True Master mash making. It's
Speaker 1: an amazing conversation. I love this. Shut up. Listen. True
Speaker 1: Master made Brooklyn zoo nigger. He made Brooklyn and you right? Um? Sorry, yeah,
Speaker 1: m think so who you got I'm going with you.
Speaker 1: You gotta true true Master, Yeah, True Master, Vice, whatever
Speaker 1: song is. Fourth got up there, Fourth got Um. I
Speaker 1: know he had some killer on ship that was crazy,
Speaker 1: so I just can't do the name of it. Probably
Speaker 1: had some grave nigger ship too. Um. Yeah, he was
Speaker 1: definitely RISI. He was down. Was he down? Would bring
Speaker 1: the rockets and all that? And no, I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I think that was all Risdom. I'm not. I'm sticking though,
Speaker 1: But you know what, I might because he did biscuits
Speaker 1: for me too, Mike, I might gotta lean tru. I
Speaker 1: might lean true Okay, but it might be a fifty
Speaker 1: forty nine split or something like that. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Nine? You know what I mean? That's fair? Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: The Killer tape or hard boil mh, but too much
Speaker 1: hard boiler was that was the same killer was, but
Speaker 1: he was American. I say, oh boy, you right yeah, Mamber,
Speaker 1: that ship the Killer was the ship. I'm going to
Speaker 1: killer Killer Killer is stupid Killer? All right, Miami or
Speaker 1: a t L right now you and Miami and Miami
Speaker 1: and eat a little respectum Miami. Okay, all right, now
Speaker 1: here's here's where we go. Crazy, Come do me or
Speaker 1: I'll let you. I can't, hm, come do me. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna do me here. I am don't. I'm going
Speaker 1: I love King. But alright, five Delhi Villams or the
Speaker 1: Master Killer movies, the movies, five more, the five Files,
Speaker 1: Crazy Father, the fib was crazy five Father'll see crazy
Speaker 1: kill you your mother? Like what is this mouth? Movie?
Speaker 1: You said? Riso made y'all watch the movies. He didn't believe,
Speaker 1: make it make it felt like it was a part
Speaker 1: of like the book. He just no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: it was boot but he was he made no, he
Speaker 1: ain't forced because it was around. It was like it
Speaker 1: was like anyway, that's the spot and all you just
Speaker 1: you don't see you see it's like you know what
Speaker 1: he wanted to comfort flu even the game or flick,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Around, And that's what it was. Yes,
Speaker 1: make it beat Yeah, nah, but five Denly Villains was crazy.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question. Okay, hold on, Bob,
Speaker 1: not finished your do you ask me already? Alright? The
Speaker 1: mac of super Fly I'm going to map wait for
Speaker 1: super Fly was ill too. Ain't that super Fly? When
Speaker 1: the he had to fishing? Fishing and ship? Oh no,
Speaker 1: that's called want you probably joke. That's a comedy movie. Again.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you. Yeah, I'm gonna get you something.
Speaker 1: Break breakup alright, alright, because we're almost done this this
Speaker 1: this is it, This is it. This is it. Loyalty
Speaker 1: or respect that is there is the correct understand. I
Speaker 1: don't know why you say that, sitting back and saying
Speaker 1: you like you can't really have one without the other.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so that yeah, that's he is respect, babe.
Speaker 1: I've been trying to say that too. Respect comes with
Speaker 1: loyal as well. They both come together. It's not one
Speaker 1: without you. Like the first guest, everyone may be sitting
Speaker 1: there in comfer place and they give us a great
Speaker 1: as great, we love it. But honestly, yeah, now you're
Speaker 1: right to go together like it's it's it's it's I'm
Speaker 1: sorry because what you want to say, I want respect
Speaker 1: over loyal to. Right, so you don't want your men
Speaker 1: and your woman to be loyal So so you want
Speaker 1: reserver's roommates. Yeah, you guys say you're saying it like
Speaker 1: that now because it't like that he was up to
Speaker 1: the c roommate said like's coming to then It's like
Speaker 1: I don't even looked at it like that. I just
Speaker 1: trust the man. Sick mates. Yeah, you stew it right. Well,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you my research. I really did my p
Speaker 1: S three company. I definitely didn't do as company at all.
Speaker 1: But alright, cool a right, cool, moving on. I felt
Speaker 1: like you answered that, okay, all right, that's not quick time.
Speaker 1: No no, no, this we we we're done with a
Speaker 1: quick time of slime A right, his his hiss. One
Speaker 1: of the questions, all right, yeah, this is this is
Speaker 1: this is one of this is one of my questions
Speaker 1: protection that I don't remember what part of the jail
Speaker 1: I'll wasa what year did this come out? Hast? What
Speaker 1: is the name? Three three h h I'm in jail.
Speaker 1: I feel like we got twelve niggas from Queens nine
Speaker 1: eight hundred thousand from Brooklyn. H tech, your neck comes
Speaker 1: out forty eight hundred niggas is from shot overnights overnight.
Speaker 1: These dudes claiming they're outside there in the yard. They're
Speaker 1: showing their phrases niggas like, who is this nigga? I think?
Speaker 1: Stand now, where was this nigga I had yesterday? Niggas
Speaker 1: is outside? I'm talking about standing down on Muster. In
Speaker 1: that time, the protection net came out. You can ask
Speaker 1: any nig that was in the jail system at that time,
Speaker 1: any nick started down, I was put in the world
Speaker 1: m That record changed the trajectory of hip hop, but
Speaker 1: it had to change the trajectory stating like I'm outside
Speaker 1: looking at I don't know you yet. I don't know
Speaker 1: you yet. I'm a fan of y'all niggas, but I'm
Speaker 1: sitting back and I've never seen quite this happened. I've
Speaker 1: never seen people not go from not even talking about
Speaker 1: the town to the next day. So being so proud
Speaker 1: of the time because they had people to identify with them,
Speaker 1: did y'all know y'all was yeah? Because because you know why,
Speaker 1: because it's like it's a lot of dangerous sniggers from
Speaker 1: Staton Noling, right because stat Nlan was a place where
Speaker 1: everybody felt like it's a lot going on out there
Speaker 1: in a great way, but you had a lot of
Speaker 1: dangerous niggers that lived in the communities that was getting busy.
Speaker 1: So when they went to jail, it's like niggas knew
Speaker 1: who they was based off the fact that when they've
Speaker 1: seen the nigger that they felt was from where they from.
Speaker 1: It's like, yo, we gotta stand up and now to
Speaker 1: know that yow out of two of those niggas, one
Speaker 1: of those nigga one out of two been in those
Speaker 1: live towns, and stat Nolan, one out of two, they're
Speaker 1: gonna show you exactly where it's at because it's probably
Speaker 1: gonna be maybe three places that's and stat now and
Speaker 1: you're gonna be like, yo, I know somebody. But the
Speaker 1: bottom line is when we came through, it was like
Speaker 1: seeing the rise of the rise of what you want
Speaker 1: to call the rise of the machines, Like y'all, it
Speaker 1: was it was time, like I said, stop now. And
Speaker 1: always felt like y'all like like like the five bros
Speaker 1: Are trying to front on us, like we won't kill you,
Speaker 1: like we're gonna get you, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like brothers they't recognize our slang. None of that ship
Speaker 1: that's all now and ship so like all that ship wait,
Speaker 1: you know what the difference. You know we came with
Speaker 1: like the rods and cloths. You know it's all right there.
Speaker 1: You came with the rod Yeah, eagle's all that ship
Speaker 1: were dipping them to be like what's the guy the
Speaker 1: blonde guy, um from the mafia? Um you can't vine
Speaker 1: the champion? Yeah, man, the one of that insane guy
Speaker 1: was a vision. That was a vision, like I told
Speaker 1: you the brothers up where he was that was doing it,
Speaker 1: big Julie on. Like birds don't change hanging down and
Speaker 1: they dig the low feeling. I sweats with feeling like
Speaker 1: doing it, you know what I mean. And I always
Speaker 1: see myself like that with a robe on and the
Speaker 1: birds on my arms, and like, yo, who get the
Speaker 1: truck is? You know what I mean? And and and
Speaker 1: and that's where they came from. But it don't stemmed
Speaker 1: up from where he was when he had this ship
Speaker 1: like that, you know yo stating then and like you said,
Speaker 1: like Yo, Nikkas was in Brooklyn house doing it, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? You know myself and like that whatever,
Speaker 1: But like you said, when we said what we said,
Speaker 1: Now you hear who the blue Like no, I lived that,
Speaker 1: Come on man standing now And when that ship came out,
Speaker 1: but um, it's a lot of angels. Yeah, and it
Speaker 1: was shot. That was it was saying, state knowledge and
Speaker 1: took your net came out. They made it because it
Speaker 1: was that final get only for your barrow. So he
Speaker 1: was laughing, but it was last, should be what first,
Speaker 1: right then. But it's like for us, we wasn't even
Speaker 1: worried about the papers, worried about the reputation, you know,
Speaker 1: the representation, like y'all gonna get it one way or
Speaker 1: another because you know, we've been in spots and it's like, yo,
Speaker 1: you keep having it's Brooklyn Bronze queens. Yeah, we ran
Speaker 1: with the niggas that was mad about that, Like, yo,
Speaker 1: let's go stick to the the DJ let's go different,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yo, we could just dig
Speaker 1: them just you know, surround him in a in a
Speaker 1: clever way and just you know, yeah, it mad. You
Speaker 1: just got sucked up. Seriously, you just got sucked up
Speaker 1: the tunnel girl, Rob we're taking anybody coating the tongue,
Speaker 1: like don't put your coat in the fucking back over there.
Speaker 1: It's gone. You know what I mean, you ain't leaving
Speaker 1: out with it. Uh. That's why I stopped going to
Speaker 1: clubs after a while, because they wasn't let me in.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I'm out. I'm outside with
Speaker 1: a blind of people and ship them over there. Like yo,
Speaker 1: so listening to you know what I mean, could talk
Speaker 1: to you, talk to him, yo, he come out there. Yo,
Speaker 1: he's over there. He's ripping his shape. He don't like
Speaker 1: when he was. I don't even know if you were
Speaker 1: working the tunnel, but he was working. Yeah, Yo, listen.
Speaker 1: It was dangerous in the tone. The tone was like right, yo,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So that's why I said
Speaker 1: before you said nineties, it was different, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. A couple of my niggas chopped some of
Speaker 1: them niggas in there. Oh yeah, definitely the tunnel. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the bounces up. You know, it was like you write
Speaker 1: a passage, like if you made it to the tunnel,
Speaker 1: you got through, and he rocked the show, you rock anywhere.
Speaker 1: I went to tunnel one time. I'm sorry. I don't
Speaker 1: want to make it about me. It's all about y'all,
Speaker 1: but I had to suspend the car joint song. So
Speaker 1: I walked in the bathroom and see unit sex bathroom.
Speaker 1: I don't know why they felt like they just fly,
Speaker 1: but it's actually a bit right here, squatting them ping
Speaker 1: door open. I'm sitting there at the car. I see,
Speaker 1: I see. I don't know. I feel like these niggas
Speaker 1: from Brooklyn. I'm sorry for them, just just being like
Speaker 1: su presidente because I'm just feeling these things. I'm like
Speaker 1: all these things. Think I'm myself like cool, I got
Speaker 1: the y'aller right there, but I got to suspenders. One.
Speaker 1: I can't take a piss without going like slip go
Speaker 1: like this. The niggas is looking at me. I'm looking
Speaker 1: at them like, yeah, I have a thing on me.
Speaker 1: So I go like this to go to my suspenders.
Speaker 1: About two ways just dropped right in the joint as
Speaker 1: I'm pissing on because I can't stop my bis so
Speaker 1: I'm beeting already. Two way just look at me, just
Speaker 1: laugh at me, like and it just broke out. Never
Speaker 1: see these things again. I hate these things. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: kill them back. But that's that's how crazy. The tunnel was, like,
Speaker 1: like you go to the bathroom by yourself. That ship
Speaker 1: is reard like you gotta tell you tell the homies,
Speaker 1: you'll stay right there. And it could be four pitches
Speaker 1: in there, but the four chicks in theres telling you
Speaker 1: telling the homies like a good yall he got. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: she was crazy, she was. I see, I see bigger.
Speaker 1: It seems to see leave seas leave. Yeah. Look I've
Speaker 1: seen bigger than one night. We see east and I
Speaker 1: brought the big L A l A. I wish she's
Speaker 1: was here at the coast on this story, but obviously
Speaker 1: we know season. I wouldn't be saying. And I gave
Speaker 1: big l A l A before it came out of this,
Speaker 1: before it came it was for stretch off Strong bad Boy,
Speaker 1: remember bad Boy, Let's do a mixtapes with different DJs.
Speaker 1: What gave it just before the video came out. This,
Speaker 1: this is before anything. We literally recorded recorded it Thursday night,
Speaker 1: all Thursday night. And I've seen big Friday night when
Speaker 1: I see them the tunnel and I said, your hicko
Speaker 1: l an, we're coming back and these dudes big hand
Speaker 1: me back in the CD. I said, Nope, we ain't
Speaker 1: got this, these dudes we we I ain't do what
Speaker 1: they accused me of the time I was too young
Speaker 1: and comprehending, right, something like biggest Big, Ain't that dude? Bro?
Speaker 1: Like big, ain't that guy? Man? Like? As I got old,
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, this nig was wise it and
Speaker 1: all of us right. But then I was like, and
Speaker 1: then what your wife? And it's like, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: they ain't take my ship. But what I didn't realize
Speaker 1: as I got old, Like I said, what's big was
Speaker 1: really kind of innocent of everything. They kind of addressed it,
Speaker 1: so he didn't want to address them. So I say
Speaker 1: that to say, it's a very famous kit ghost. M hm,
Speaker 1: I don't want no nigga sounded and like me, no,
Speaker 1: none of that ship. It's in the past. History is history.
Speaker 1: We can't change history. So we can't change history. We
Speaker 1: can't change it. We can change the future. We can
Speaker 1: make the future shake, but the history is history. I
Speaker 1: just like how you educated? You know, it's just like
Speaker 1: you know, it's like he's like, I don't even know
Speaker 1: anybody like he's when he's like, how would coach sound?
Speaker 1: But Queen's version? But this is it's real skip. When
Speaker 1: this skip comes on, we all kind of getfused because
Speaker 1: in all minds who is at the top of it
Speaker 1: told him Paul, Yeah, there's nothing that who could be
Speaker 1: mad at? There's nothing now? And then we here ghosts say,
Speaker 1: I think it's been nah ship, I don't want Niga
Speaker 1: sound like meal no album, and everyone relates this skin
Speaker 1: to the bad boy. Ever, what was going through your
Speaker 1: mind and how did how did you how did you
Speaker 1: come up with this or or did you actually really
Speaker 1: feel that's what happened because Nabs didn't have a child
Speaker 1: on this cup and Big got a child, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: first of all, I love it, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And I wish like before they did what they did
Speaker 1: to him, Me and ray Kat was up in the
Speaker 1: club there was the Key Club or something like that, remember, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and we funked around, I shook his hand, met him
Speaker 1: and all that said. Because I was like I was
Speaker 1: done with all that that. Yeah, I wanted to get
Speaker 1: in and just make pieces like yo, come on, yo,
Speaker 1: you know what y' listen, let's get in the booth.
Speaker 1: Let's let's go do something, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So we see him, we give him dad and everything,
Speaker 1: whatever the case may be. And and that was it,
Speaker 1: and I wound up by here that day. They murdered
Speaker 1: him probably the next the next day, and nobody knew
Speaker 1: that neither nobody knew that story. Yeah, yeah, that y'all
Speaker 1: actually met up and seen on the first first time
Speaker 1: we've seen Big the night before you got ever spoke about.
Speaker 1: I shook his hand and a New York I never
Speaker 1: never shop. I've never got a chance to ship. I
Speaker 1: mean we've been on planes together and and you know,
Speaker 1: at that time it was like, you know, damn like
Speaker 1: nothing being said because of my mouth on what the
Speaker 1: funk I said, smashed both in first classes, y'all in
Speaker 1: the first class. But I didn't really each other. Now
Speaker 1: back then it wasn't It was just the whole funk
Speaker 1: wherever you like fruit type of ship. Yeah, like that,
Speaker 1: everybody was was on plane, on every fucking body. I
Speaker 1: guess you might be coming from Jack the rapping on
Speaker 1: the rapping role on the plane. I said, Jack the rapping,
Speaker 1: that's better Google. So it was like we never really
Speaker 1: said nothing and ship like that, and you know, we
Speaker 1: could we could be the last two brothers out there,
Speaker 1: meet him and his man and me and moment and
Speaker 1: it's like we went for all cars to come in
Speaker 1: it's nothing to me and said but that night that
Speaker 1: night when when um, when we met him and ship,
Speaker 1: like you know that the mother came in there she
Speaker 1: could saying race you. The said cats in his head.
Speaker 1: It on my mind. But even before I seen him,
Speaker 1: I wanted to like talk to him to squash that ship.
Speaker 1: But as you know, we're doing that ship. He bounced,
Speaker 1: broke out. Whatever the case maybe he said, but he
Speaker 1: said with us like that was it. It was no
Speaker 1: conversation and like it was something never was it? Like
Speaker 1: then I hear about that, But I'm trying to say,
Speaker 1: is that, yo, that's ship. That's I was fucked up out.
Speaker 1: That ship hurt me like I love pop too, but
Speaker 1: big ship it just hit home more for some reason,
Speaker 1: like it hit home and ship and um and know
Speaker 1: all that ship like that. I never got a chance
Speaker 1: to tell him, like, yo, listen another Paul the self.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I'm out there, you know whatever,
Speaker 1: because at that time when I didn't let ship five
Speaker 1: s like yo, who wanted but let me you're just
Speaker 1: doing I'm doing super ship. Let me let me tap
Speaker 1: into the year old goes, which not who who you
Speaker 1: are now? But what made you say that because back then,
Speaker 1: you know, you know what was crazy? It's my favorite rappers.
Speaker 1: Granddaddy at you, right, that's like really my favorite top rapper.
Speaker 1: But but if you listen to my style, you can't
Speaker 1: see Granddaddy at you and me at all right. It's
Speaker 1: and it's not because I don't respect granddaddy of you.
Speaker 1: It's because I don't respect granddad. In our error, it
Speaker 1: was meant to be the exact opposite. I'm gonna just
Speaker 1: do me. I love you and I love your style.
Speaker 1: I love what you do, but I'm not the number
Speaker 1: two to you. What? What what made you feel like that? Alright? Cool?
Speaker 1: NASA album was was a hit? He had a kid
Speaker 1: on it. Did do you feel like Big was doing
Speaker 1: that deliberately putting putting a child on his album? Because
Speaker 1: what made you what? It's fired that skit because how
Speaker 1: I'm looking at it through a twenty five year old
Speaker 1: mind that don't give a funk about whoever, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. While we was doing the skin, It's
Speaker 1: just it just it just came that way. It just came.
Speaker 1: It wasn't playing the natural competition. Yeah, because I'm like
Speaker 1: I'm like, first of like like we don't really like
Speaker 1: fighting off nobody's ship and it's not in the third
Speaker 1: or whatever the case. Maybe it just changed and you
Speaker 1: did say, how do they seven? They had came out
Speaker 1: before y'all bad boy So that that was report I
Speaker 1: was on. Yeah, was it? I blame it? Now? That's
Speaker 1: that was the nineties seven when they when they when
Speaker 1: they when Bad Boys ship was like that because that's
Speaker 1: science science just skipping out on the right corn album.
Speaker 1: That's ninety five, you know what I mean? So so so,
Speaker 1: but being twenty we was wound twenty five, so from
Speaker 1: stating down like everybody, Yeah, it's like, yo, you have
Speaker 1: I just had to tell me like like yo, like
Speaker 1: I'm hearing you out this, you know, because he was
Speaker 1: moving bricks only I heard you. You gotta chill, you know,
Speaker 1: mixed park with beef, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 1: remember that, Like Yo, I had to leave. I had
Speaker 1: to leave that ship alone because you could have went
Speaker 1: left anytime, locked up or got killed. So I made
Speaker 1: the assistem to lead that ship and just stick with
Speaker 1: rap music, you know what I mean? But we were
Speaker 1: twenty five, yo, and right now, if I had the
Speaker 1: chance to tell I'll be like you're big your listen, bro,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, be hard and me like you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like i't mean that ship like that or whatever,
Speaker 1: but whatever, I was thinking that it was street ship.
Speaker 1: It was three ship and and I know, and it
Speaker 1: was so fucked up, That's what I'm trying to tell you.
Speaker 1: Because he did the song with Metha and I'm like
Speaker 1: the funk like you know for him, Like we're still
Speaker 1: on the street. You don't mean doing ship playing with
Speaker 1: ship Nigga is still getting dusted over. Yeah, it's like
Speaker 1: we're outside, you know what I mean. So yeah, but me,
Speaker 1: I was looking at it like when you said it,
Speaker 1: it was more like we had a relationship with queens niggas,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like me and nos we
Speaker 1: go back a while ago, and you know, I brought
Speaker 1: him to statn Island, had him up in the Chinese restaurants,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. He loved us, We loved him,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I remember at the time
Speaker 1: we was in l A when niggas acting like they
Speaker 1: want the front on Nis and we came in like
Speaker 1: super arrows and what you mean this is this is
Speaker 1: this is what it was just you know, this is
Speaker 1: the young young, the young nineties. Yeah yeah, and then
Speaker 1: what's happening. But you know it's just it's just that
Speaker 1: they was, they was being tough on him. You know
Speaker 1: what the crowd of the audience, Yeah, the crowd, and
Speaker 1: we just you know, you know, that's our little brother,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, not calling him. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember that Clear's day, you know, but at that time,
Speaker 1: it's like we love we love nas since since um
Speaker 1: this sense something he had to fucking tape, right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he had like six songs before a matter given came out.
Speaker 1: I don't know how these two French chicks got it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? He said, friends came French friends,
Speaker 1: some French girls. You know, we have to get to
Speaker 1: say you know what I mean. But he was a genius.
Speaker 1: He was taking who was saying everything. But you know
Speaker 1: how hell that is to know that the way we
Speaker 1: respected this nigga gun and know that today he would
Speaker 1: be the nigga to everybody respect we was the niggas
Speaker 1: that so so that's to what I was saying, This
Speaker 1: is yeah, this is how I'm yeah, this is this
Speaker 1: is yeah, this is you saw But but like he said,
Speaker 1: we had a moment where we heard more joints from
Speaker 1: him and it was like, yo, like six is a
Speaker 1: little you know. I remember hearing one Love and was like, wow, yo,
Speaker 1: we spanked that letter. That's a letter from a nigga
Speaker 1: from Queens, you know what I mean. Then he started
Speaker 1: three years he started out. Yeah, it was like yo,
Speaker 1: it was like it was like I was like, it
Speaker 1: was the love form that we had and then when
Speaker 1: we met each other was genuine and we seem the
Speaker 1: same in each other, and you know, yo, we would
Speaker 1: we would have jumped out the window for him. So
Speaker 1: I think that around that time when Big came with
Speaker 1: the album, it's like it just snapped back in our minds, like, Yo,
Speaker 1: my nigga did that, you know what I'm saying, Like honestly,
Speaker 1: So really it was like we was just rooting for
Speaker 1: our nigga. You know, we're rooting for him. You did
Speaker 1: something different, you know what I mean? You didn't. You
Speaker 1: didn't he did that. So it just was a moment.
Speaker 1: And I remember, I remember when you said it because
Speaker 1: like you said, it wasn't pre meditated, It wasn't pret medicate.
Speaker 1: It was just you know, he was in there kittting
Speaker 1: it up. Like but when he said it was like
Speaker 1: everybody nobody said chill gools, because that's that's the funk
Speaker 1: up thing, because nobody said, no, that ain't going on.
Speaker 1: But we knew that we were still connected with the
Speaker 1: niggas he was connected saying, you wish somebody was there,
Speaker 1: say somebody somebody still the set. I don't, yeah, like yo,
Speaker 1: I don't know that that was what I wanted the
Speaker 1: money had done it because he may be putting with us.
Speaker 1: Maybe you're right, I'm listening to hip. I mean happened,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. He's saying that if they
Speaker 1: wish that somebody was there to persuade them not to talk,
Speaker 1: not to say that, you know, because I'm listen to me,
Speaker 1: I'm asking what do you listen though? You know what
Speaker 1: he said was facts. But like I said, at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, are we trying to charge it
Speaker 1: niggers that were because at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: I didn't, you know, I didn't get a chance to
Speaker 1: look at it, like yolet nick a funk with you,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Or what exactly? You know
Speaker 1: what I mean? It's almost like but it's trouble again.
Speaker 1: It's facts store, but they come out with the projects
Speaker 1: behind this ship the same way how you did it.
Speaker 1: And at that time and when hip hop was so
Speaker 1: real to us, it was it was a protection. But
Speaker 1: it was like, yo, you know what, Yeah, that's how
Speaker 1: we took it. But he could have been like, yo,
Speaker 1: you know what I've been at that something. Yeah, well
Speaker 1: I respect nas like that s to like, you know,
Speaker 1: he might look he might love NA sick, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, and did that, but we don't exactly
Speaker 1: but we don't know, you know what I mean. But
Speaker 1: I'm just going on for the fucking like, Yo, I'm
Speaker 1: outside moving brakes. We're doing this and we'll give a
Speaker 1: fucking one in the moment, in the moment. And it
Speaker 1: was ninety five one of the best years of my
Speaker 1: life with this thing, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 1: I got my you know what I mean. My brothers
Speaker 1: are sitting around it was like who you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? So you was going to talk your ship,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yeah, it's this way, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: talking about it. It's like yall coments the way it
Speaker 1: fucked me up when they did that because we were
Speaker 1: still outside we were still out there and just lost it. Listen,
Speaker 1: we just scoled. I didn't know I touched it washed
Speaker 1: that night, and it was seeing the nigga. It's like
Speaker 1: seeing the nigga that you know that you had something
Speaker 1: where and you're like, y'all, no, I really fucked up.
Speaker 1: Let me go be the man. And that's how we're
Speaker 1: walking over to That's how I like, yo, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. He looked at us. He looked at
Speaker 1: us like, nigga, I have a drink, nigga. Man like
Speaker 1: he was like, yeah, that's that's what. At the end
Speaker 1: of the day, fucked it all. What funked it all
Speaker 1: the way up because it was like we knew he
Speaker 1: loved us, he loved our nigga. Matt math never knew.
Speaker 1: That wasn't even gus skin. He was like in his feelings,
Speaker 1: like yeah, because y'are on the board album. No, not
Speaker 1: even that's my nigga though. That's expanse of the family everybody.
Speaker 1: The old thing going on. If you don't introduce Normy
Speaker 1: to somebody, I don't necessarily mean nor we gonna respect that.
Speaker 1: If you don't introduce him, that's how I look at it.
Speaker 1: It's like Yo, if I don't introduce you to a nigga,
Speaker 1: don't mean nothing. So for us, it meth never introduced us.
Speaker 1: Too big for us to even be like, Yo, what up?
Speaker 1: I never met that. I never met big. I never
Speaker 1: met him to never matter, like never matter. I'm like
Speaker 1: like yo whatever you never never like yo? What's up? Yo? Yo? Yo?
Speaker 1: We never did that did so it was more easier
Speaker 1: for us to talk in them because we didn't have
Speaker 1: no common cause with him. It's like when me and
Speaker 1: goes board nas around, you know what I mean. It
Speaker 1: took other niggas a minute that really respect no, but
Speaker 1: that ain't that ain't mean ain't respect his gun. It
Speaker 1: was just that si men, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Everything you know when I bought up on a round,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. He was the first person
Speaker 1: to post of yo. I've seen it in him like
Speaker 1: but you know what we're saying is like, y'all, I
Speaker 1: think the love was just so strong for naas that
Speaker 1: it just hit him. It just hit him at that
Speaker 1: moment and it was like, damn, do you take it off?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? He could have easily say, Yo,
Speaker 1: don't no, I don't go there boom, But it made
Speaker 1: sense because that was, like he said, we was in
Speaker 1: our run twives and he was saying, what the fun
Speaker 1: we want to say? Way to say? You know what
Speaker 1: I mean? It was Big ever responded to interviews the
Speaker 1: ship names the seven and ship I don't I don't move,
Speaker 1: not musically though Big wasn't musically saying nothing, but you
Speaker 1: could tell it was bad in him a little. You know,
Speaker 1: it was bothering him to a degree. You know. Um,
Speaker 1: I remember one time songs like you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: salute and I'm moving it feeling like a day you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. The act is like it's sinking
Speaker 1: in like yo, like damn, Like what the funk? To
Speaker 1: go my mouth again? You know what I mean? Like
Speaker 1: the hot Nanny seven ship. There go my fucking mouth again.
Speaker 1: I killed us for ten years, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: But like you said, it is what it is now
Speaker 1: and we're here. Like I said, I want to his
Speaker 1: death hurt me more than pox, like I felt it
Speaker 1: because I felt like Nigga took something devils from home
Speaker 1: and I'm moving on the coast of the same ship
Speaker 1: and we didn't leave. I see Nika skate the funk
Speaker 1: out on planes getting the photo. You sit out here,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like nigga, what we are like?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Just get I finishing my work,
Speaker 1: finishing them the sec A cit who ten City. You
Speaker 1: finished that ship out there. We did the whole ship
Speaker 1: out there. So it's like, yeah, so let let me
Speaker 1: ask you because it's always been Math was the guy
Speaker 1: who did a record wait big right then, at the
Speaker 1: moment where Pocket is dissing the whole East Coast, there's
Speaker 1: a record that comes out with Math, Dog Pound red
Speaker 1: Man and Pope. Okay, m h no, Reggy Chalk Mountain.
Speaker 1: I've heard method Man explained this, but I would like
Speaker 1: to head from y'all. I heard that you never heard this.
Speaker 1: You know, I heard of it, but I never really
Speaker 1: I might have heard the song like once or twice,
Speaker 1: because this is smack Dad in the middle East Coast,
Speaker 1: West Coast Beef and I think Pop did it on purpose.
Speaker 1: And those records are probably old records. Actually I heard
Speaker 1: the records just for duck Down. I actually heard the
Speaker 1: records that met and Brad actually give me just don't
Speaker 1: do it. But the thing is, we don't have Twitter
Speaker 1: back then. We don't have anything. We don't have confirmed.
Speaker 1: We can't deny this again. Was there any like you
Speaker 1: bugging you know what it was that It's like we
Speaker 1: always felt new triling situations because to me, it wasn't
Speaker 1: really like no East and West Coast beef. It was
Speaker 1: just a facade of that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Certain niggas wasn't just pressing niggas like that. You know,
Speaker 1: we know what it is to get pressed, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, because we you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: we pressed niggers too, So it never was that way
Speaker 1: that we really felt like it was really that what
Speaker 1: it is. You know, we just walking through whatever. Niggas
Speaker 1: paying homage on both sides. It's like you might know
Speaker 1: crips and bloods and it might be like y'all were both.
Speaker 1: So I saw we was taking whatever is going on.
Speaker 1: We just knew that it was an altercation on both sides,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. When Pop, when Pop passed away,
Speaker 1: you know we felt it too. We felt it, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. He was a stand up nigga.
Speaker 1: He was outspoken, you know what I'm saying, and um,
Speaker 1: you know, we lost, so we lost a warrior. He
Speaker 1: was a warrior. So you know, like Go said, it's
Speaker 1: like yo, back then, it was a different time, man,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And a lot of times
Speaker 1: it's like you may meet you may meet a nigga
Speaker 1: and be like, I love a nigga, but his niggas
Speaker 1: might not love you. And and now you're in a
Speaker 1: situation with him and his niggas because his niggas is
Speaker 1: convincing him to go this way or go the way
Speaker 1: they're going, you know what I mean. Or at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, it's like, yo, man, them niggas
Speaker 1: was real niggas, man, like they really paid you know,
Speaker 1: everybody chalked about it to this day, Like yo, who's
Speaker 1: in a big opock? It's like pop was more revolutionary pop,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Big is more you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. He's just when you see Big, you
Speaker 1: see New York City like bright lights boom new York.
Speaker 1: But is it bad that when I see Pok I
Speaker 1: see New York City too? Sometimes? I mean, I know,
Speaker 1: if you ever see his record, ain't nothing about the
Speaker 1: like the old school, nah, because somebody cause somebody pull
Speaker 1: this record up because look, just for a second, please,
Speaker 1: who got the playlist. Who's on the playlist. I just
Speaker 1: want you to hear this record because I'm outside walking
Speaker 1: one day, so I'm listening to this record. It goes,
Speaker 1: ain't that like the old school? And this is pop
Speaker 1: describing all New York City ship. Then the very next record,
Speaker 1: you know what comes on California. No, that's not it, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: another but the old school? Yeah? Please you're Tupac. Please
Speaker 1: just not someone just take it to the to the verses.
Speaker 1: I just wanna ready to hear this ship. I want
Speaker 1: you to hear you're a real New York City officially
Speaker 1: not on. I want you to understand. Please go, please
Speaker 1: come on? Who got it? Who got it? Alright? You
Speaker 1: read big chance? Baby? You still we got another bottom.
Speaker 1: Don't worry about up, you know, hold on? Maybe let
Speaker 1: me you can't go to what you finish that ship?
Speaker 1: Please on your please listen to this. This is Tupac. Okay,
Speaker 1: you always bring this record up and ship fun me up.
Speaker 1: There's nobody listen to me now, whole record. Let me
Speaker 1: use the back from ya. Listen. You cannot make this
Speaker 1: record if you're not really from New York. Listen, anybody
Speaker 1: from New York. That's the argument you're making right now,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make it after this finished, because we just
Speaker 1: had digital money be you know, with us and all
Speaker 1: of New York. And there's no way Nikas don't know
Speaker 1: about Skelly when he say, yeah, Mr Magic Flash got over, Bro,
Speaker 1: I gotta get you never heard this record? No really? Wow? Yeah?
Speaker 1: This early pot Yeah. That sound that she's going like
Speaker 1: this had to be one of his probably, but pop
Speaker 1: he was sucking in his mind, not his mind, but
Speaker 1: he was everywhere like he was like he was in Baltimore,
Speaker 1: he was in New York, like he was born I
Speaker 1: think New York, New Jersey, right, what New York? Right? Right,
Speaker 1: New York. He was born in New York and right yeah,
Speaker 1: and then he made his chops in Oakland. We had
Speaker 1: money be talking about that, and I think he felt
Speaker 1: upon genuinely had part of all these places, and that's
Speaker 1: what he's trying to always liked d No, no, he
Speaker 1: y'all said. I was with sig Ball right right, Okay, okay, stop,
Speaker 1: we don't California love sir, No, But I think that's
Speaker 1: way you're you're pinning those things against each other. I
Speaker 1: know I never heard that ship, you know, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's the way he's gonna pin it.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, do you think don't California love, sir? I
Speaker 1: mean totally everybody knows California love. But all right, go ahead,
Speaker 1: everybody knows old school too. No, No, they never heard
Speaker 1: of their life. That's their fault. Damn, that's it. It's all.
Speaker 1: That's not that's that's definitely not coming love. That's not
Speaker 1: that's a love person to Can you get your life together?
Speaker 1: You're embarrassing me in front of all right, please get
Speaker 1: your life together, please, sir, and go to Fox verse
Speaker 1: Gray verse. No, not like that, Dreys versus the first
Speaker 1: can't go straight up? I think he said, and we
Speaker 1: were Chuck's and not board. It's not Ballard right right right,
Speaker 1: But that sign probably knew because he's from here. But
Speaker 1: he had but he was, but he was, and he
Speaker 1: was raising Oakland too. Man. He adopted. You can't take
Speaker 1: away apted. He adapted, and he was from everywhere in
Speaker 1: his mind like he adapted, adapter every spot he was.
Speaker 1: He could probably go to Baltimore and tell all he
Speaker 1: knew Baltimore. I'm not I'm not disagreeing with you. You
Speaker 1: are you do disagree me on that. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: this nig is a dangerous guy in what way and
Speaker 1: the way that he is. He made me believe both verses.
Speaker 1: He was truth to all the ship. He was saying.
Speaker 1: That was his truth. You can turn it up U.
Speaker 1: And I felt that Park was one of those dudes
Speaker 1: that he felt loyal to. Whoever he felt that moment
Speaker 1: was most loyal to him, so he would ride all
Speaker 1: the way he was going. That's called the dapting, that is.
Speaker 1: But see, you know what you can't never take out
Speaker 1: of him. He's an East Coast nigger. Can't can one
Speaker 1: thing again. I think that that's one takeaway that we
Speaker 1: should honestly say everything you've been saying. Maybe you're not
Speaker 1: accepting the fact that maybe he was most hurt because
Speaker 1: he's an East Coast dude and he felt that East
Speaker 1: Coast hurt him. But he was wrong. Maybe not. How
Speaker 1: can you say that for him? I can't say that now.
Speaker 1: I don't think you can't. I think personally that the
Speaker 1: the the not fucking when New York came because of
Speaker 1: what happened, right, he was not fucking with New York.
Speaker 1: This is I felt like it was it was. He
Speaker 1: wasn't because of what happened soon period, you know what
Speaker 1: you mean? It was completely to New York. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he was working with boot can't click attend of the
Speaker 1: day because he something happened. So I think he was
Speaker 1: just loyal what you mean because he's saying ship like yo,
Speaker 1: when we say I'm weird chucks not balanced over here
Speaker 1: like that. I'm just I feel like, you know, he
Speaker 1: just mom me is I think that could be real
Speaker 1: loyal like you said, if you heard him, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean with his loyalty, Okay, then he wanted
Speaker 1: them over here. That's not a good thing, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So I'm just thinking like someone was
Speaker 1: just you know, he a little nigga with with a
Speaker 1: big heart. Think about what you say that. You guys
Speaker 1: have been saying this. You guys are the whole time.
Speaker 1: Y'all been saying this the whole time. He was twenty three,
Speaker 1: and we stopped thinking about how young Park was this
Speaker 1: whole time. We stopped thinking that we're thinking an old
Speaker 1: man age now, we we were the age we are
Speaker 1: at drink champs right now. We put them in our
Speaker 1: mind frame. But when he get shot ninety six. But
Speaker 1: let's be clear, like it's like it's like it's like,
Speaker 1: all right, let's do a short short that's that's a
Speaker 1: long term, right, Let's do a short term. Prodigy never
Speaker 1: really was from Queensbridge at all, God bless, that's what
Speaker 1: I love Produgy, love him to death. But he adapted that, right,
Speaker 1: so many people being from Queensberg saying he adapted saying
Speaker 1: he's from Queen's Grace. He adapted that, right, it's actually
Speaker 1: that hood has to actually co sign that that hood
Speaker 1: has to be like that's like from Stepien. Term you're
Speaker 1: hanging out with that doesn't make you from parking it, right,
Speaker 1: Like I don't give a funk how many times you
Speaker 1: came eight year olds and lucky charms, Right, it's still safe.
Speaker 1: I don't gonna how many times I hang out Queen's Bridge.
Speaker 1: I just washed my clothes and poem crib because poem
Speaker 1: was the only thing I knew in the projects who
Speaker 1: had to wash and dry. But I never knew washing
Speaker 1: Thursdays is Sundays. I'm overhead. I'm not coming with the
Speaker 1: coins or nothing, because you know that's how you ever washing? Yea,
Speaker 1: I was fifty, right, I sound like the candy man,
Speaker 1: I sound like the tin man from whichards I feel stick,
Speaker 1: gonna washer and the dryer. Right I went to far,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't even know what the point was
Speaker 1: me up. What I'm saying is it never made me
Speaker 1: for Queen's Bridge. I can go out there to three
Speaker 1: times a week, I can take her of beef with
Speaker 1: pone is not there where his own moms would hit
Speaker 1: me and I would whatever. Still never made me from
Speaker 1: Queen's cred And even thinking from Queensbrich who loved me,
Speaker 1: and I woke out and I broke night with them
Speaker 1: niggas and and and was that ship the graveyard shift?
Speaker 1: And I was so cracked with me? But at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, I was still a left frack
Speaker 1: right right, got you. I got a certain amount of ship.
Speaker 1: But as soon as my back turnament is like frag Nick,
Speaker 1: I had to accept that Pocket is the only dude
Speaker 1: in the universe that did that with a coast. He
Speaker 1: locked down on New York. We love him in New York.
Speaker 1: We still love him in New York. I don't want
Speaker 1: of the dudes and still claiming him. This is my
Speaker 1: whole point, is say nik from New York. It's my
Speaker 1: whole point of this hard but not even just a
Speaker 1: coach to remember what money was here. It's even California,
Speaker 1: because California in the California, they two different regions. So
Speaker 1: when guys on here and this underground said, oh well,
Speaker 1: let me tell you something. The way Pop was rhyming
Speaker 1: on that record right there, it gave me an extra
Speaker 1: extra um which one California love or before that, it
Speaker 1: gave me an extra slect for him because they never
Speaker 1: heard it, and I'm most of them, I'm necessarily what
Speaker 1: he's saying. So that's crazy, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: When the nigga started talking like that, that means he
Speaker 1: knows what it is. But like I said, you could
Speaker 1: take a New York nigga anywhere anywhere. And if a
Speaker 1: nigga feels you loyal to him, like you said earlier,
Speaker 1: how loyalty and respected. You know what I mean. The
Speaker 1: nigga shill came and got him out of jail. He
Speaker 1: did something that niggas at the end of the day
Speaker 1: and the good nigga had him jammed and they said, yea,
Speaker 1: I got you. He loyal. He went loyal after that
Speaker 1: straight loyal, you know what I'm saying. So to me,
Speaker 1: Pop always just represented you know, a real niggas tail
Speaker 1: in its own way. He got hurt, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Nigga shot him in the face. You know,
Speaker 1: whatever happened happened, and he never got to the end
Speaker 1: of it. It's like, if you're coming in a situation
Speaker 1: with respecting and you get hurt, Yo, that ship could
Speaker 1: turn us in the enemies. It's like, it's something happened
Speaker 1: to me leaving Drink Champs. Nigga and y'all ain't got
Speaker 1: nothing to do with it. But I'm gonna be like,
Speaker 1: y'all got something to do with it. Coming from Drink Champs.
Speaker 1: You can't expect the negative forever. Be faithful to that,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And you know, like I said,
Speaker 1: I know Pop love Big, I know Big love Pop.
Speaker 1: We can we all saw it on stage. But them
Speaker 1: two brothers, for real, It's like those are martyrs to
Speaker 1: us in a game. Almost like Jesus said Moses. Jesus
Speaker 1: said Mohammed, Like how mom is so yeah, I sent
Speaker 1: you to the Islamic religion, and how Jesus, that's that's how,
Speaker 1: That's how but that leads me to um to y'all, jesus,
Speaker 1: y'all ossireous. From the moment I met Mutang, from the
Speaker 1: moment I see forget me me meeting Mutang. Excuse me,
Speaker 1: Let me remain the fan that I am. For the
Speaker 1: moment I see Mutang, I knew it was special. I
Speaker 1: didn't know how it's special. I didn't know what then
Speaker 1: why you're special. But I knew this is We're never
Speaker 1: gonna see this again. I also knew every individual zone marksman,
Speaker 1: but it was one guy who kind of stood out.
Speaker 1: At times he stood out for the wrong reason, but
Speaker 1: at times most of the things put out for the
Speaker 1: right reason. When he interrupted that awardship, he said, for
Speaker 1: the kids, that's the right reason to be. No who
Speaker 1: is even though everybody else somebody be like, what you
Speaker 1: know is m hm, you know who he is? Man,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a sip of this real quick, brother, brother,
Speaker 1: Oh dirty bast I don't get out of I tell
Speaker 1: Nie said today. And this is a fact because I
Speaker 1: know this for a reason. He was the vessel for
Speaker 1: the motivation. You know what I mean? He was the
Speaker 1: make rizzle see right what it is? You know what
Speaker 1: I mean could see Rizzard. One thing about Rizzard, Riz
Speaker 1: is a shot due. So he needed a ship leader
Speaker 1: that was giving him ship that he needed to realize
Speaker 1: he had. Dirty. Dirty was the one when when we
Speaker 1: was at our lowest moment and not believing in this ship,
Speaker 1: Dirty would come in the room and to take him
Speaker 1: two point three seconds to get back up to be like,
Speaker 1: be the best nigga, the best I don't know would
Speaker 1: come to you like in the world, say way early.
Speaker 1: And it was. And Reason was the type of dude
Speaker 1: to be flattered by the accolades, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But when Dirt was saying that, yoll, this group is
Speaker 1: gonna be this group. He's seen a vision, Rudy, he
Speaker 1: knew that that was needed, that was needed. And Yo,
Speaker 1: he trusts your production wizard. So we trusted Dirty, trusting him.
Speaker 1: We all trusting each other. That's why I said, it's
Speaker 1: like a mall man like he's coming the Reason, like
Speaker 1: he's a true I'm gonna shoot up. We don't know
Speaker 1: each other like that, but we're coming together because we
Speaker 1: were said you being the gun, No the gun, You're
Speaker 1: gonna make the ship ring. We just was never met
Speaker 1: a nigger like that ever in my life. He was
Speaker 1: I'm y'all. He was, I'm like ya third yo. He
Speaker 1: was everything Yo. Yeah, he gave me my soul. He
Speaker 1: maybe not really like give a funk about nothing like
Speaker 1: I met him with Risen. I'm meeting the hero Pastrami
Speaker 1: and cheese, ship, hot and all that. The first day
Speaker 1: you meet him. First du met, Nigga said to me, Yo, God,
Speaker 1: get a piece of that yo. Never never never met
Speaker 1: like na be like Yo like yo, and it's risk
Speaker 1: cousin like you know what I mean. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: I go ahead, boom my game half of the ship
Speaker 1: and ate it. While was eating the piece, and Nigga said, Yo,
Speaker 1: ordering my babies. God, that's the best thing I ever
Speaker 1: had in my life. My babies and hard Yo listens
Speaker 1: said my baby because everything was word his babies with
Speaker 1: him everything. He's what's my quarterborth my babies shouting my
Speaker 1: biggest the best ship Yo, Yo. That was just ship
Speaker 1: all the time, his babies. That's I got. Gave that ship.
Speaker 1: And I started listening to the niggas like all the
Speaker 1: time and ship. But you know my movie should drink
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? How her friends and ship
Speaker 1: like that, and I bring dirty to the crib and
Speaker 1: they all in their singing fly slow Jians, ROBERTA Flack
Speaker 1: and all that. Ship. You know, listen pass hold that
Speaker 1: we can be he over there with my mother, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is the tension, But yo, go with
Speaker 1: he ain't doing ship. I said. He never listened to rap.
Speaker 1: They say, all he listened to his soul and listen.
Speaker 1: The moments was his favorite group. The moment, the moments,
Speaker 1: and he like flies ship like he going there. He
Speaker 1: just he was just nice with But it was like
Speaker 1: this man has so many ways so him like yo,
Speaker 1: like even when he got girls to this and that
Speaker 1: and third I remember one Tithing said, Yo, we did
Speaker 1: a show in Philly and and and and you know,
Speaker 1: I'm about to go to our room. The lobby flooded
Speaker 1: Philly girls is the easiest girls in the world. We
Speaker 1: already Stolo and Gilly. They agree with me. They agree
Speaker 1: with you, right, says you might be right. Let me
Speaker 1: say something. The Niggi king went like, fifty girls by
Speaker 1: self mcg by myself. The Nigga said, and and and
Speaker 1: and a lot of yo right me and a lot
Speaker 1: of you. I don't know if he was downstairs. We're
Speaker 1: in a lot. He like, yo, he came with all
Speaker 1: the girls. There's right behind them, they're all backhead. I'm
Speaker 1: looking at this nigga. He got Yo're like yo straight,
Speaker 1: he say you straight? Whatever? He was just straight. He'd
Speaker 1: be like this, this was him, right. You go with him,
Speaker 1: You go with him, you go with him, Like he
Speaker 1: just quarterback that old ship. I'm like, oh sick, but
Speaker 1: I've never seen it the way he did. It was
Speaker 1: so he was unique and that was his name. It was.
Speaker 1: It was a unique unique this about him that was
Speaker 1: like you're never ever ever ever see this ship. Like
Speaker 1: I say, like, yo, man, this nigga he didn't give
Speaker 1: a fuck. Like he didn't give a like nigga wears
Speaker 1: socks and a few days in a row, the nigga
Speaker 1: jopp is sandwich from the floor, picking up, blowing off
Speaker 1: God made dirt, dirth, doing hurt. He was that type
Speaker 1: of real nigger like that, like you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like yo, I could be with the could be up
Speaker 1: his nose, plugging his buckers and just going like this
Speaker 1: with the ship like this. To give him a five.
Speaker 1: He was, he was like that, like what's uping on.
Speaker 1: I was wait a minute, right right right right, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: and be talking to you just like ship like Yo,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like Yo, he's a picnic y.
Speaker 1: It's like y'all stop doing that ship man, Yo, nigga
Speaker 1: said one day right and the mall, he said, Yo,
Speaker 1: he's like bags chicks. The nigga said, Yo, Yo told
Speaker 1: him her name his name, didn't know who he was.
Speaker 1: He said, Yo, no, you don't know me. Smoke dirty
Speaker 1: Yo that but now you really don't know me. I
Speaker 1: think he's just busted like me and Mra Yo got
Speaker 1: the bitch. I'm like ya this Nika Yo, I'm like,
Speaker 1: how the fund? Could you just go out and say
Speaker 1: some ship like that? You know what I mean? Like
Speaker 1: but that was dirt, he keeping a buck like you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like I even seen when we
Speaker 1: used to be on stage and Math used to be
Speaker 1: doing his ship and the crowd going bonkers for Math
Speaker 1: and Dirt. And I know Mobou I know him because
Speaker 1: you know, before we started this ship, it was like
Speaker 1: we was getting busy in other places. This ship you
Speaker 1: know many when he's like Yo, he just watching them
Speaker 1: and I'm looking at this nick looking at the method
Speaker 1: and then when Dirt going on stage, he wonna go
Speaker 1: up there and say nothing, Yo, Dirt won't see nothing.
Speaker 1: He just put that one in the air like that,
Speaker 1: and the crowd of just go crazy. Like It's almost
Speaker 1: like he was almost Chille. That's how I like he
Speaker 1: was battling because Dirt want to be first, he want
Speaker 1: to be the best, but Methods already fired. So now
Speaker 1: it's these two and I don't even think that meth
Speaker 1: because Nep is going on stage and did Dirt will
Speaker 1: come on next? Like but for me and him having
Speaker 1: a relationship, I'm like, yo, my brother crazy be yeah,
Speaker 1: b But he was that like Racia. He was special.
Speaker 1: Good yeah good. Now every time I mat I met Dirt,
Speaker 1: it's always been great. I meant him in an actually
Speaker 1: Neptune studio, he was in there with the next one.
Speaker 1: But let me um slightly serious, but you know, just
Speaker 1: to hey, you brother's reaction. There was one shooting that
Speaker 1: happened in Best Stop right? Was that a warning? Like,
Speaker 1: because because y'all the top of the world and Dirt
Speaker 1: still hanging out in the Best Stop, right, He's still
Speaker 1: hanging around, and there was a shooting that happened now
Speaker 1: is that something that along the aill y'all did y'all
Speaker 1: all say, you know what, maybe it's time to get security.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's time to you know, not hang out and
Speaker 1: park Hill hang out on the staple to him, maybe
Speaker 1: it's time to hang out and Chelsea peers that never
Speaker 1: came across the hall. Nah. See, you know what it is,
Speaker 1: You know what it is. It's like nah, only because
Speaker 1: it's like you gotta remember, like I told you, he
Speaker 1: was as symboled. He was as symboled, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. That's the first top something that happened to
Speaker 1: like AOL member. Yeah, it's like, you know, but it's
Speaker 1: like it's like having a brother that you know, at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, you can't you can't. You
Speaker 1: can't try to make him what you want him to be.
Speaker 1: He gonna be who he is and you gotta accept
Speaker 1: everything that comes with him. You know, we love him,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You know, it got to
Speaker 1: the point where it was like, you know, even if
Speaker 1: Dirt we knew he was sucking something up, we loved
Speaker 1: him so much that he could get away with it.
Speaker 1: He can get away with it. But yeah, it's like, yo,
Speaker 1: that's him, you know what I mean, Like he said,
Speaker 1: because we knew it was hard, she sunk. We don't
Speaker 1: judging man by his character, were judging by his heart,
Speaker 1: you know, and he had a big heart, and he
Speaker 1: just you know, I just felt like we should have
Speaker 1: been there a little bit more to kind of like
Speaker 1: show some kind of support in times where he needed it,
Speaker 1: because you know when he went away, When he went away,
Speaker 1: it's like, Yo, we were on the road. Yo, your
Speaker 1: sharing is still in it. You still you were hand me.
Speaker 1: This is important, right, Your shares is dead. We're making
Speaker 1: sure that everything we're doing, the cut is dead. But
Speaker 1: nobody never went to go see him. But we went
Speaker 1: to go see him one time as a unit was
Speaker 1: an HDM and something as a unit or as a unit,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I know we went to
Speaker 1: the jails. You remember, we went to the jails and
Speaker 1: we before and we jumped. They told us, they told us,
Speaker 1: don't jump in the crowd because they think it's some
Speaker 1: other ship. And we're like, yeah, cool, cool, And then
Speaker 1: we jumped in the crowd, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But and I remember that day because Dirty was eating
Speaker 1: be finish it. He at the cheeseburger to say, laughing,
Speaker 1: independ independent, you know what I mean, but you know,
Speaker 1: not being there for him through his situation that we
Speaker 1: were hear stories like, yo, they got my brother in
Speaker 1: the hospital, they got him in the g building. Do
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. They're giving them this, and
Speaker 1: they're giving him that. And then you see him when
Speaker 1: he come home and it's like we grab him, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, which when you're supposed to like
Speaker 1: you know, but at that time, he already had me
Speaker 1: his decisions on where he wanted to be and he
Speaker 1: couldn't and he had the right to feel like that
Speaker 1: due to whatever you know, how it is. Well, we
Speaker 1: talked about Rocketbeller, right because when he gets home, he
Speaker 1: went to Rocketeller. But the thing about it was looking
Speaker 1: at his story because I went and I did research
Speaker 1: on his story. His story was I've seen ghost lead,
Speaker 1: seeing great league. I've seen you got leave, I seem
Speaker 1: mastercular league, I've seen method man lead. So when he
Speaker 1: came home, he was planning his escape. And this is
Speaker 1: according to leave the right description. I don't want to
Speaker 1: leave the rightness. I think that that was into what
Speaker 1: y'all would do like to go and do your own
Speaker 1: deals and its descriptancys on that because some people say,
Speaker 1: I believe it's you that's say we left on our own,
Speaker 1: and then I think it's you to say, now I
Speaker 1: had to fight for that. I did have to fight,
Speaker 1: and you know, because I was executive other ship, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, And I'm deal with raise your
Speaker 1: shop over there at the joint, you know things. But
Speaker 1: when you say executive, what do you mean executive? Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: you're one of the executives as well, exactly because I'm
Speaker 1: I'm like a founder, you know what I mean. I'm
Speaker 1: the one that that that really gave Richard the wood chain,
Speaker 1: the CD you know, all that. Ever on how he
Speaker 1: he I'm gonna make a group out of this, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: wou tage very Charlotte, you know what I mean, the
Speaker 1: woutang name from that about the Wog movie. Actual, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: you music could argue me down, but I know what
Speaker 1: it is. It makee f time with this, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Exactly, I'm doing the documentary. I think
Speaker 1: he said, you know what, whatever, you're shooting it. But anyway,
Speaker 1: it's like, um, yeah, you know, yeah, but you go
Speaker 1: through ship, you know what I mean. But dirt was
Speaker 1: an important piece. You don't mean of the of of
Speaker 1: of you know, other claim like Race said earlier. Um
Speaker 1: he was he was the soul you know what I means,
Speaker 1: a strong would could the heart of it or whatever.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. He's like a Draymond green
Speaker 1: on On on the war, you know what I mean, Like, Yo,
Speaker 1: it's one of those like yo, and then given gonna
Speaker 1: give it to you, bro, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So so um yo, that was that, you know. But
Speaker 1: like he said, at the same time, we was young, ye,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I didn't know like I'm
Speaker 1: out this student. We still run of the streets and
Speaker 1: taking care but we gotta take care of because we
Speaker 1: still signed and ship. Yo, ray We didn't know like
Speaker 1: really to be like Yo, come here man, yoa what's
Speaker 1: wrong with you? Man? And this is not in the
Speaker 1: dird because like he said, he got a good heart
Speaker 1: and we're funk with him and he had laughed with
Speaker 1: you and do all this other ship, So it wasn't
Speaker 1: really like we don't really know how you don't know
Speaker 1: how serious it is until he gets took it away,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But let me ask you.
Speaker 1: So when he went to Rocket Feller, right, did that
Speaker 1: hit you in the wrong way? Could it be in
Speaker 1: the wrong way? Uh? It was, but it was didn't
Speaker 1: go to other competition like you went it was the epic,
Speaker 1: I believe right he Yeah, no, I was on with
Speaker 1: Razors shot. You know what I'm what I'm trying to
Speaker 1: say is I went to death Jam a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Rockefeller and Wu Tang would be more competition than it
Speaker 1: would be Epic in Colombia. Or you know, he's right
Speaker 1: because you're like, you got Dame over there. Your Dame
Speaker 1: is like the divine Yeah, you know what I mean, Like, yo,
Speaker 1: he's split over it's like that or whatever. So did
Speaker 1: y'all ever feel but when because when you know that's
Speaker 1: your family, right, But y'all most of you are probably
Speaker 1: not communicating with him, not not not in a bad way,
Speaker 1: but it's just like you know when people in jail,
Speaker 1: like I couldn't communicate with Poe. Just send the money,
Speaker 1: that was it, right, But I couldn't communicate. But because
Speaker 1: at the time he didn't have cell phones. I don't
Speaker 1: have cell phone. But he comes home, he I imagine
Speaker 1: he's not sharing this information telling y'all, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: fuck Rocket Fun. So y'all hear the information at the
Speaker 1: same time that the public kids, this is what I'm imagining.
Speaker 1: That's not right for me? Yeah, just what is that?
Speaker 1: Is that true for you? Was the something that because
Speaker 1: because I remember him saying, JESSI called him even though
Speaker 1: Jesse was out of the root text on Jesse said
Speaker 1: what are you doing? Put on the Rockefeller Jay or
Speaker 1: what are you doing? Was that anytime any of y'all
Speaker 1: felt that same way? Now for me, it's like I
Speaker 1: understood why he felt that way, and I wanted to
Speaker 1: see him win the best way that he felt he
Speaker 1: needed to win. So I was neutral with it because
Speaker 1: it's business. You know what I'm saying, Nick coming home
Speaker 1: looking for opportunities, niggas is showing love in respect to that.
Speaker 1: I'm a knock him because he wanted to make a move,
Speaker 1: you see what I'm saying. But at that time, it
Speaker 1: could have felt like, yo, everybody was doing anything because
Speaker 1: it got to the point where we all felt like, Yo,
Speaker 1: you know this ship is solid, but YO, I still
Speaker 1: own my my my territory. My territory is my territory,
Speaker 1: So you know, I at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: you can't knock and make it trying to go feed
Speaker 1: itself and feed his family, you know. And I never
Speaker 1: really crossed my path to look at it like you're
Speaker 1: a trade up or whatever the case may be, because
Speaker 1: I already felt what he was already going through. You know.
Speaker 1: Um that's when you start with chard. You know, if
Speaker 1: I was stetting younger, if I was a little young,
Speaker 1: I probably, but it took it like you know, something else.
Speaker 1: But um, you know, you know what I mean. You
Speaker 1: can't look at that film and look at it. Everything
Speaker 1: is being accurate, you know what I'm saying. We know,
Speaker 1: we know. But at the end of the day, Dirt,
Speaker 1: he had to do what he had to do. But
Speaker 1: I just wish he was a little bit more closer
Speaker 1: to him, you know what I mean? Whatever that a
Speaker 1: little bit more time to kick it with him and
Speaker 1: ship see right now, be older. So you know what
Speaker 1: exactly I look at them. I want you to finish
Speaker 1: it exactly exactly what I really looked at all the
Speaker 1: old for this, y'all. Like when you say yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: y'all say he was the heart. I hear, y'all. But
Speaker 1: I see y'all wall and I hear y'all when I
Speaker 1: saw you know, because like I said, yeah, my family.
Speaker 1: But I didn't want to short change this, so I
Speaker 1: went and I just kept looking at this footage and
Speaker 1: I'm looking at it, I'm like wow, Like O, dB
Speaker 1: was really like, what's that ship? The nucleus? The nucleus
Speaker 1: means the middle, right, So although you got Ris over here,
Speaker 1: smart as hell, you left the vall and you got
Speaker 1: you got moved, you got you know where he goes.
Speaker 1: You got it. But in some crazy way, it felt
Speaker 1: like dirty was it was it was him, It was
Speaker 1: it was him, yo, listen, and he was mad them
Speaker 1: don't let when he came out of jail for you
Speaker 1: when he when when when they gave all that medication
Speaker 1: and made him all slow and blew his face up
Speaker 1: and all the other ship like daddy had a time,
Speaker 1: like he don't the way he was at I was hurt,
Speaker 1: like yo, like the funk that ain't unique what he
Speaker 1: was saying, likee right there he was saying when he
Speaker 1: came home, he was a different person. Of course, Yeah,
Speaker 1: of course I've never heard that he was shaking and
Speaker 1: all that ship like like us seeking a little six
Speaker 1: in Paul, Come, I'm out head. I'm out head watching
Speaker 1: beats and my brothers up, you know. And then it
Speaker 1: was like, yo, man, that ship just broken, like no,
Speaker 1: this saint unique, Unique Unique was out there like he
Speaker 1: was a fly motherfucker. He was into everything like yo,
Speaker 1: like we don't both got shot at and doing ship,
Speaker 1: like just doing ship like you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But that wasn't him. He was slow. So, for lack
Speaker 1: of a better term, goes a lot of people. They're
Speaker 1: looking at boutie man, they're looking at the booty and
Speaker 1: they're saying, this is a cloned version. You didn't feel
Speaker 1: like that about O. D B. That was not because
Speaker 1: I knew that that was I knew that was a
Speaker 1: because you know, I just when you know somebody all
Speaker 1: your life, I'm not all your life. But you know,
Speaker 1: we was close. He was close, but it was just
Speaker 1: that job, that medication in there, and you know, because
Speaker 1: he started like going off his rocket a little bit
Speaker 1: before you even went in a little bit, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. But it was like, yo, faces fact,
Speaker 1: this is that in the thirty slow Nah, it wasn't himself.
Speaker 1: He wasn't dead and I was and I was fucked
Speaker 1: up for everybody to seem that way like that. I
Speaker 1: didn't die after that, you know what I mean. So yeah, Also,
Speaker 1: this was like I was a kid when I saw
Speaker 1: it at first, when o dB escaped from the rehab place,
Speaker 1: and to listen, by the way, I'm thinking my child's time.
Speaker 1: So when I'm watching this, I'm like, just obviously they're
Speaker 1: acting this out. And then I'm looking at that and
Speaker 1: I realized, as I'm older, Dirt mcgurt would he escaped
Speaker 1: from the rehapp place, jumped on stage with a boot
Speaker 1: thang what a women are bottle in his head? Oh website,
Speaker 1: It's just like that. Yeah, so classic, and it gets
Speaker 1: all right. I can't do too much at least looking
Speaker 1: for me. Yeah, just like a real journalist. I'm trying.
Speaker 1: Let me, let me, let me listen, but listen. When
Speaker 1: he did that, it was the first time we realized
Speaker 1: there's no difference from us in the streets, us wrapping.
Speaker 1: There's not not one difference. The man stood there and
Speaker 1: niggas just like you walked bold. We haven't performed for
Speaker 1: you for three years, three years you haven't been around,
Speaker 1: and Dirt is looking like I gotta hearry hup right right?
Speaker 1: That was him. That was that. That was him. Like
Speaker 1: y'all remember one time he had a warrant and ship
Speaker 1: and they were like you said, they was looking for
Speaker 1: him and ship, and he was like, we had a
Speaker 1: show that night, so you know, it's all of us there.
Speaker 1: So we're like, damn, don't even missing his dirt. Well
Speaker 1: he ain't coming because you know he on the one
Speaker 1: right now, y'all remember y'all he walked in the spot nigger.
Speaker 1: It was him and his mother nigga and they were
Speaker 1: then or his mother, Adam and his mother. They walked
Speaker 1: in on some fly gangster ship to the stage and
Speaker 1: all that. It was like everything went slow motion after that.
Speaker 1: But he was like, yo, how you walk in with
Speaker 1: your mom's you know when you gotta warrante? Dirty? See,
Speaker 1: Like I said, he was courageous man. He was. He
Speaker 1: was everything made you know, and a lot of times
Speaker 1: I always personally took it like he loved to entertain people.
Speaker 1: If he know he could make you laugh, he's gonna
Speaker 1: make you laugh all the time, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Being around him when he's sober, it's like, go said, like, yo,
Speaker 1: he's a serious, dude, you know what I mean. He
Speaker 1: got you know, he really loved what we was doing
Speaker 1: and he wanted to be a part of it. But
Speaker 1: he knew he couldn't hang with this because it was
Speaker 1: like we all ain't on the same way, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like, you know what I mean. Prime example,
Speaker 1: he was the you know what's my niggap on the
Speaker 1: Temptation's name on David Ruffen nigga. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: He was the Roughen nigga the crew like he was
Speaker 1: moving and searching on his own and and and figuring
Speaker 1: out his own way. You know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, he loved niggas, but
Speaker 1: it's just that he couldn't really funk with niggas like
Speaker 1: that only when after the money came. All this happened
Speaker 1: after the money came. Yeah, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: when the money was When the money was low, niggas
Speaker 1: would be like this, you know what I mean, because
Speaker 1: we don't know the choice. But speaking about the money.
Speaker 1: Who tanked Forever Hip Hop's first man dollar video Di
Speaker 1: Dirt Dirt That video right there, you see Dirt Net.
Speaker 1: You know why Dirt wanted to get paid. He wanted
Speaker 1: some money. He's like Yo and niggas. They had that
Speaker 1: money on the set. He was dead. He he didn't
Speaker 1: give a chalk, didn't show so falling off the roof.
Speaker 1: That was Papa Wool. That wasn't dirt, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what you had a mask that wasn't dirt.
Speaker 1: That was hiving dirt. Want that bread? They had a
Speaker 1: phone Brett mcnick having fond fuck you I did. That's sick.
Speaker 1: I don't want it that bread. He was dead. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was dead. That's how Dirt was fun that. But
Speaker 1: they also said the re crast for the Man out
Speaker 1: of video was you, Oh yeah, I was down with that.
Speaker 1: You wanted Why did you want a million dollar video? Nah?
Speaker 1: We didn't look at it like a million Now we
Speaker 1: had a million out of thoughts. Didn't do a big video.
Speaker 1: Just came out to them. You know what, you know
Speaker 1: what that was a million that I loning million back then? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was you know, that was around the chime where
Speaker 1: you know videos was serious of the time. Nah, we went,
Speaker 1: but he wasn't popping yet though we have none of
Speaker 1: that out yet. He wasn't on that wave. Like making movies.
Speaker 1: He was just he was nah, he just had a
Speaker 1: good recommendation through Steve Rifkin, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: The video actually the video wasn't actually a million. It
Speaker 1: was like like eight hundred and ninety thousand or some
Speaker 1: ship like nine hund you know. But but it was
Speaker 1: just the way the song sounded it. You know, me
Speaker 1: and wizards thinking, you know, fucking um you know, just
Speaker 1: some other ship and um word. We just had all
Speaker 1: these visions and ship but you know, deck being Spider
Speaker 1: Man on, you know, putting a bunch of ships inside
Speaker 1: one video or that we felt was like, yo, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be something crazy, and you know that came out
Speaker 1: to be the number. Okay, this is the only wood
Speaker 1: take video I did not like ever. You want to
Speaker 1: be flint Stones. Flint Stones he called the flint Stones.
Speaker 1: I mean yeah. The name of the song was called
Speaker 1: gravel Pit It's a great record, and that was rizis
Speaker 1: called it's a great record. But the true you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, you gotta do it on the day,
Speaker 1: you know what, because I never liked it that right
Speaker 1: there the record back the videos you ain't on the
Speaker 1: head was out on the I think that remind you
Speaker 1: like a flint stone, you know what I mean? That
Speaker 1: was that way, you know what I mean. We we
Speaker 1: was out there and two hundred degrees brothers in first
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Yeah, seating my fur out so much,
Speaker 1: A shrunk because if you can't sweating fur like that,
Speaker 1: because it was shrinking when you I didn't know that
Speaker 1: ship is back in that city again. Later on, I
Speaker 1: got to give it to my son. So let me
Speaker 1: ask y'all. The first deal we signed, he signed this
Speaker 1: Deep King Live Records. I believe you the one that
Speaker 1: said you got a G out the deal. I believe
Speaker 1: you don't even remember if you got a G or not. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but if you got when I got you go, you
Speaker 1: mean one case one makes a noise for one k,
Speaker 1: but one case you can be like rain goes, this
Speaker 1: is taking one came. Yeah, I took the five k.
Speaker 1: It was terrible for me because we took the g
Speaker 1: off for what off the first because no, we got
Speaker 1: like thirty six thousand nons for that yif first. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we got thin and piece in the restaurant to fucking
Speaker 1: making the wreck the record. Yeah, that's money in it,
Speaker 1: that's humble. Yeah, we took a chance on risking, Like
Speaker 1: he said, I a prompt, you'll take a chance on us.
Speaker 1: We took a chance. We just heard. We just said
Speaker 1: that yesterday, even just heard that I can get your
Speaker 1: risk on us, take a risk. We did hear that, right,
Speaker 1: So that's not a relaxed yo. Let me tell you something, man,
Speaker 1: you have my family and my brothers, my friends, but
Speaker 1: it doesn't take away anything that we did tonight because
Speaker 1: I'm still your fans, and I will never stop being
Speaker 1: your fans. Like I will never stop being your fan.
Speaker 1: I would always play. I would always you know, I've
Speaker 1: seen a part because I did studies on y'all. And
Speaker 1: one thing the Wizards said that I really loved, he said,
Speaker 1: I let him think that the only thing that I
Speaker 1: wanted was when I put the flag back down for
Speaker 1: the brothers to come back together. And I don't know
Speaker 1: if y'all believe that or not, but I know that
Speaker 1: sounded great and it's beautiful for a person to say,
Speaker 1: you know what, we all got together. We all did
Speaker 1: what we gotta do. But when I put that whoop
Speaker 1: there back down, let's all comestom vote tron right. So
Speaker 1: one of our last questions is Martins cruciality because that's
Speaker 1: also a little hold on, let me get this one
Speaker 1: passed on that. You know what I mean us You
Speaker 1: could say I can say fucking out, he can't me
Speaker 1: all right, but we won't never talk about nothing. We
Speaker 1: don't not the album, not none of that. It's nothing
Speaker 1: until about. But I want to say this so just
Speaker 1: to get on some positive ship. You know, being in
Speaker 1: the business for like twenty seven joints. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: proud of my brothers because we're still here. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I got brothers in the movie world,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, brothers still being creative. You've got brothers,
Speaker 1: you know, being professors. You know, shout out the chess
Speaker 1: are running to doing things. And you know we write books.
Speaker 1: You know, your brother got a book out. This book
Speaker 1: right here, something like a do you know. It's some memois.
Speaker 1: It's a memoir state case the stage. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, This is a book that I wrote. Just
Speaker 1: that's crazy because but what the moral of what I'm
Speaker 1: saying is like we're still here, man like do thick
Speaker 1: and thin, being around each other and just getting to
Speaker 1: know each other more. It's just like I love all
Speaker 1: my brothers, you know what I mean. This might be
Speaker 1: the closest one semi based on the fact that we
Speaker 1: had three careers, you know what I mean, Dylan, We know,
Speaker 1: having one with the Woo, having our own personal solo,
Speaker 1: and then having our own situation. But at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, there's three. Three is three. You've got
Speaker 1: three careers and what I'm saying too solo doo And
Speaker 1: so for us to still be in person and still
Speaker 1: doing what we're doing, still killing shows because we kill shows,
Speaker 1: you know that, Like really, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And it's like it's fun. It's like, you know, we
Speaker 1: do it, of course to get paid and take care
Speaker 1: of our families, but we do it because we love it.
Speaker 1: You know what, I love it. Make it's still and
Speaker 1: that's why whatever we go through as a family, we
Speaker 1: always come back and make it make sense something I
Speaker 1: love it. I love somehow. It's very tough to keep
Speaker 1: a group together and you told me that a long
Speaker 1: time agouse by saying, Yo, we ain't the only ones
Speaker 1: that's going through We go through you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like group's been going through ship for years, so you
Speaker 1: know it's a dynasty. Man, you know, um, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be here forever. You know, as times we do shows
Speaker 1: and next thing you know, you see sixteen year old,
Speaker 1: seven teen year old, eighteen year olds, nineteen year olds
Speaker 1: in the crowd singing this ship. So it's a duty
Speaker 1: for us the kid keep continuing the shine on these nicks,
Speaker 1: letting them, letting them get it. So anything that we
Speaker 1: go through is like you gotta put it to the
Speaker 1: side for a minute, just for a minute. Google serve
Speaker 1: that that you was in USIC backroom. I got two
Speaker 1: more questions. That's it. I want you to say, suching
Speaker 1: my brother real quick, they're coming back, because yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you all real quick though, because when
Speaker 1: y'a are talking about being in junior high together, the y'all,
Speaker 1: how could you imagine what would be happening today in
Speaker 1: this in this age of y'all live right now? Would
Speaker 1: you even imagine that? I didn't. I couldn't imagine it.
Speaker 1: It's too far fetched because it's like, you know, like
Speaker 1: I said, we was just brought together to do something
Speaker 1: for a second that we felt was gonna benefit each other,
Speaker 1: but not really, no one. This is gonna be like
Speaker 1: a real brother to me. A brother that I never had,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. So it's like it's like that now.
Speaker 1: So whatever we do to each other, it's always gonna
Speaker 1: be a brotherhood, regardless of what. You know. What I
Speaker 1: mean the year is that we spent together to the
Speaker 1: NICs being broken. Yeah, you know what I'm saying in
Speaker 1: the bus cramped up like this. It's like, that's why
Speaker 1: niggas made movies about us, because you know what it
Speaker 1: waits we make our movie, don't gonna get a chance
Speaker 1: to see. It's gonna be a rare ghost movie. Just
Speaker 1: just know that before we even go there with it.
Speaker 1: Just snow, it's always in the makings. It's a thought.
Speaker 1: It's really deep to us, like you're just only seeing
Speaker 1: the painting right now. One pain exactly, all right, so serious.
Speaker 1: Two questions left, it's most part questions of this whole
Speaker 1: interview to man. Yeah, two first solo albums. We'll start
Speaker 1: with you. Purple tape already comes out, correct, it's time
Speaker 1: for you go in. I am man. M hmm. What's
Speaker 1: your thoughts? What's on? Went on? What are you doing?
Speaker 1: Every it's everyone from the clan members turned this year time.
Speaker 1: By the time that got to me, I had a
Speaker 1: rig came to me. It was like, yo, it's that time,
Speaker 1: but you only got like a couple of months to
Speaker 1: do this ship, you know what I mean. But mind you,
Speaker 1: I just found out that was like a diathetic at
Speaker 1: that time, you know what I mean, because when you
Speaker 1: look at me and the ice Cream video, my face
Speaker 1: is all fatter everything like that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: By the time I got the Iron Man, it don't
Speaker 1: slim down like you know what I mean? And I
Speaker 1: beat the sicking damn right. Um, I was in a
Speaker 1: bad place at that time. It was dark because to me,
Speaker 1: I ain't mean it's super dark. And when Riz played
Speaker 1: those beats for me on the land, I just picked
Speaker 1: out the Fattis ship that real quick because we wasn't
Speaker 1: working with other producers at that time, like taking beats
Speaker 1: from Premier and this one and that. When they're all
Speaker 1: that like that, I just what risk? You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So, but spiritually I wasn't really there, mind you.
Speaker 1: Coming off of the ride with him, Yeah, listen, I
Speaker 1: gotta get that energy and better. But it wasn't dead that.
Speaker 1: It was a little bit a little bit because I
Speaker 1: was hoping that my mind state would have been there
Speaker 1: like that to do that, because that's I was so
Speaker 1: fucked up just what happened or iron Man. Besides it
Speaker 1: being dark, I didn't rhyme on two records. I let
Speaker 1: him do faster played by myself an assassination day. I
Speaker 1: couldn't even get on it because I couldn't even think.
Speaker 1: I couldn't even think, like my pain game wasn't really
Speaker 1: where I wanted to be after leave him, win him,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But but I had to
Speaker 1: harry up. That's why I don't do deadlines no more.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Like rushed me to get
Speaker 1: and do this when this is an art you know,
Speaker 1: take trying to bake your fucking cap man, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So I had to learn that, had
Speaker 1: to go through that ship. But I ain't man, it
Speaker 1: is so dark to me, RACI it is. Let I
Speaker 1: picked out the best beast that I could take from
Speaker 1: Risin at that time, and to this day, that's my
Speaker 1: first joint. But I don't really feel it like that. No,
Speaker 1: it's not in my soul. I just want to you know,
Speaker 1: he's crazy, crazy to safe. I'm not telling you it's
Speaker 1: a classic, But you do agree it's a class. If
Speaker 1: I was in my right fucking state of minds that
Speaker 1: I didn't run one of the records because of like that,
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't do that because I couldn't. I couldn't,
Speaker 1: but I had to get the record done, right. I
Speaker 1: had to get it done. That's crazy, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? I was. None of your fans will agree
Speaker 1: with you, but I understand. I understand that's you. That's
Speaker 1: I understand. Listen. I was was going through ship. It
Speaker 1: was dark, best friend left for twenty five years. Joe,
Speaker 1: did you? I mean do did you? We can do
Speaker 1: that flame on Supreme Crowd of Town. It started to
Speaker 1: come back. Yeah, it's come back to me what he
Speaker 1: said though he's making iron Man, His man is right here, man.
Speaker 1: That's how I found him. Shot him pissing every five minutes,
Speaker 1: losing mega way. By the time I got the triumph,
Speaker 1: if you look at me and raising that same video
Speaker 1: back to back, my neck was so fucking skinny, bro.
Speaker 1: And that's when you went to Africa. That's after that's
Speaker 1: after that, ye go after that to try to go
Speaker 1: find a cure or something like that. At way, I
Speaker 1: just think. I think I didn't get the funk out
Speaker 1: of here. I had to get the funk out of here,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it was all of
Speaker 1: that like that, like gonna just go. It was dark
Speaker 1: for me. It was dark. It didn't this is some
Speaker 1: funny ship. I got the delve finals and the shoot
Speaker 1: out on Sat Dowland. They need to shoot that with me,
Speaker 1: the Delfinings Delfin, Yeah, the niggers in shoot that with me.
Speaker 1: Got the niggas in the fifteen fast and I'm blowing
Speaker 1: out this change this chick playing games. I started shooting
Speaker 1: at this nigga niggas in the back of me, and
Speaker 1: the fucking then you know what I mean, and and
Speaker 1: and money hitting back and those other ships. So we
Speaker 1: riding right like yo. This it was crazy. So by
Speaker 1: the time I got to say sorry to these niggas
Speaker 1: and ship, you know what I mean, dude, These niggas
Speaker 1: was like Yo, They're like Yo, don't worry about man.
Speaker 1: I said, told me to bring my knife and ship.
Speaker 1: Remember these whole men now like know me like, but
Speaker 1: they like nigga cool because I'm thinking, like, damn, what
Speaker 1: the fights there? Filing to the shootout like a crazy.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, oh, ship, this is
Speaker 1: pretty way they feeling this album. They feeling niggas. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was on my album. They might did that record
Speaker 1: that night after the circus clip. Oh my god. I'm like, Yo,
Speaker 1: I got to the studio like Yo, were elevated like you,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, then Yo, the fucking sorry. I'm sorry, Yo, Yo,
Speaker 1: worry not. And then so tell me to bring my knife.
Speaker 1: Told me to bring my knife and ship. So I'm like, fun,
Speaker 1: I felt so fucking bad for like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I need to shoot out with the delta. They backing
Speaker 1: me fifteen passengers. They just see me blowing that to snigger,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Because Nigga was like in
Speaker 1: the front of me, in the front, the Nigga listen.
Speaker 1: Then Nink in the front he playing games and ship.
Speaker 1: So he see me through the fucking red view. So
Speaker 1: we in and whip and I'm like, yo, he's I
Speaker 1: see Nigga smiling looking through the riff, looking through the ship.
Speaker 1: He's spelling at me like Yollo like that, Like yeah,
Speaker 1: Nigga taking real slow, real slow. I'm like, oh ship,
Speaker 1: so del fund us in the back fitting white dad
Speaker 1: something like Yo, just nicking playing games like Yo and
Speaker 1: I had joint. So I'm like, I don't know. The
Speaker 1: niggas just kept on going slow stopping, so we gott
Speaker 1: stop behind because you're right behind them, like yo, the
Speaker 1: sticking throughing ship. As soon as he turned off the
Speaker 1: eyes good ship like that the Laurel ship, like you
Speaker 1: don't come down. As soon as he made that turn
Speaker 1: windows back windows, yea, I got the dude, they're following us,
Speaker 1: and check it out. They followed us in the room
Speaker 1: the other shooting niggas. They turned around that ain't back
Speaker 1: in the big man, Yo, racing through the ride down
Speaker 1: they see this ship, well they turned off. I guess
Speaker 1: I ain't see him when we got to the studio
Speaker 1: and ship. But I was like, yo, man, I'm worried
Speaker 1: about these niggers. You know what I mean, like go
Speaker 1: hold on by came to the record, you're listening, there
Speaker 1: was you. I was like, the best ship I heard
Speaker 1: about a lot at the ones, La La la the record.
Speaker 1: When you see it was a record, Joe, I think
Speaker 1: we might did the record that night, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. But I'm telling you, but but but I'm
Speaker 1: in you know I just wasn't dead for it coming
Speaker 1: off when it would have been if I was in
Speaker 1: my right state of mind. Oh listen, and it have
Speaker 1: been beautiful. It's not crazy because as a fan, just say,
Speaker 1: you know, most of us didn't see that. Most of
Speaker 1: us do. Let's do it again. I gotta I gotta
Speaker 1: listen listen to that. It's dark, especially when he gets
Speaker 1: to the last last couple of songs, three full songs,
Speaker 1: and all us it's like it's like, I'm gonna listen
Speaker 1: to it. I'n't do that, or I gotta you know
Speaker 1: that ship, that ship is like that's that's like a
Speaker 1: dark record too, like me think about it, But I
Speaker 1: don't think about it like that because the record took
Speaker 1: me there, you know me. But I was going through
Speaker 1: some much ship at that time. It was like it
Speaker 1: just had to come out. It just came out like that.
Speaker 1: It ship, Yeah exactly, But nobody never really knew that ship.
Speaker 1: They didn't really know that ship. Ain't so ray. But
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like I didn't rhymin other records because
Speaker 1: I couldn't think I'm losing weight and nig I'm thinking
Speaker 1: like a some WLD ship like it's just too much.
Speaker 1: She was gonna, you know, on like that or whatever
Speaker 1: and ship like yo be and you know, and I mean,
Speaker 1: it's what it is. You know what I like about it.
Speaker 1: I like that I'm covering you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: The best album coming to me in the world. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean. He's colorful. You know what, man,
Speaker 1: you got the Cuba in King's up here. It's like, yo,
Speaker 1: you know how much money clocks made? Man? Man, we
Speaker 1: can give it a couple of Now, I gotta ask
Speaker 1: you the same as that question, because the one thing
Speaker 1: that I believe, I think the von said it. The
Speaker 1: ball said I am mad made goes. I stopped. He
Speaker 1: said who he said, I am man made you a star? Oh,
Speaker 1: and then he said, only built for Cuban links made
Speaker 1: ray call a star like outside of utank. So it's
Speaker 1: kind of a two part question. One do you agree
Speaker 1: with that statement? And too, how did like only built
Speaker 1: for Cuba had you go in to make a massacre
Speaker 1: like that? Do I feel like how he felt it
Speaker 1: made me a star? Yeah, because all eyes was on me.
Speaker 1: I was I was leading the ship. It's like it's
Speaker 1: like to come in the captain of a crew you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's like I have my own
Speaker 1: crew now, and I know it was important to drive
Speaker 1: everybody into a world where the niggas have feel like,
Speaker 1: at end of the day, Yo, he did enough to
Speaker 1: support the next nigger that's coming out us. You know.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like going to do your job and
Speaker 1: do your job right. So yeah, he passed the tests.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. Yo, Now you go to
Speaker 1: this man, he gotta pat Now we're looking at him.
Speaker 1: Is you next? Now you gotta pass the test? You know? Um,
Speaker 1: you know, like I said, it was, it was fun,
Speaker 1: just just just kidding it in because we was young
Speaker 1: and we was couldn't believe we was what we was at.
Speaker 1: We was making a lot of money. You know, he's
Speaker 1: able to take care of our family and pod cars
Speaker 1: and ribs and all that ship. But I know, I
Speaker 1: know it was a serious time making that album back
Speaker 1: in ninety five because I never asked you this, what
Speaker 1: does only built for Cuban links? Man? Only built for
Speaker 1: Cuban links? Just like I think of a link, it's
Speaker 1: like certain chains can never be broken. You know, mentally,
Speaker 1: I don't even know if I go At the same time,
Speaker 1: do y'all ghost. Y'alls got cute yaing's got bick cuman,
Speaker 1: so let's stick with y'all. Ship. You got a baby,
Speaker 1: you gotta toddler. That's very anyway up in me because
Speaker 1: the only people are cupid lace At this time, you're
Speaker 1: talking about the jury, but you're talking about your click. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean just the just the mental page of it.
Speaker 1: Like when you think of a chain, you think that
Speaker 1: it can never be broken according to that size of
Speaker 1: the chain. The way the links connect, you know, the
Speaker 1: way we feel we connect with our brothers is that way,
Speaker 1: like nothing could ever break this, you know. So that
Speaker 1: was that was my thought on it where I felt like, Yo,
Speaker 1: it's only built for those niggers, slot nigga niggers. The
Speaker 1: end is that dude and niggs that do also We're
Speaker 1: the big ship that come out and earned that the
Speaker 1: weird that you earned it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: You might have had a couple of scars to show
Speaker 1: your medals on who you were, but you had the
Speaker 1: respect on the block because everybody can win. Those nigga
Speaker 1: come at you for a little air ring with a
Speaker 1: rope in your ear. It's like, Yo, the nigger came up,
Speaker 1: you know, we we came up like that. So when
Speaker 1: it got to that level where it was like, yo,
Speaker 1: you win big Cubans and your mentality change because everybody
Speaker 1: around you're supposed to trust, supposed to love them. That's
Speaker 1: what that's what Cuban links meant. Only build for those
Speaker 1: niggas that stick together. Let's getting to the album now, because,
Speaker 1: like Ghost said, I think said this Earliday, it's like
Speaker 1: a scar Face record. Mm hmmm. I don't even know
Speaker 1: how to describe that. I don't. I don't in my
Speaker 1: mind if I had your budget, your lifestyle, I would
Speaker 1: have definitely been in like the Maldis and so because
Speaker 1: you're using that project elevator exactly and I'm looking like
Speaker 1: m But the concept of the record incarcerated Scarf, Like
Speaker 1: what what what? What's going through your mind? Is this
Speaker 1: is this? This is your preference for the single? Like
Speaker 1: just just just just bring me back to that for
Speaker 1: a second. Sorry, Um, you know that record was Um,
Speaker 1: that record got made quick. I came up at Rich
Speaker 1: the studio one day, It's probably like early in the morning.
Speaker 1: I heard him playing this ship Automatically. I fell in
Speaker 1: love with the beat right away. He's playing for somebody
Speaker 1: else now. He was in his crib. He was in
Speaker 1: his crib like playing and making beats or whatever, and
Speaker 1: I just walked into You know how you just feel
Speaker 1: his energy right away? Boom yo oh ship. I just
Speaker 1: ain't even say that until I just started writing to it.
Speaker 1: But I wrote the hook first, which I don't normally
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean, I don't really write
Speaker 1: hooks right away, um, you know, just really vibing with it.
Speaker 1: I just felt a good energy and I did three verses,
Speaker 1: but my verses was more like freestyle versus. It wasn't
Speaker 1: like I had no concept or no thought to really
Speaker 1: aim at something particularly. It's just yell, let me just
Speaker 1: free style rhyme over this ship, yo. But it was
Speaker 1: a quick rhyme. And the reason why we did in
Speaker 1: the projects is because we, like he said, he was
Speaker 1: still in that project mentality. I wanted my niggas to
Speaker 1: be proud of of knowing that we're doing it in
Speaker 1: the hood again, we're doing it with our niggas. And
Speaker 1: I had a lot of niggas that was locked up,
Speaker 1: so you know what I mean. I was thinking about
Speaker 1: that at the same time with the hook, like all
Speaker 1: my niggas locked up because we lost a lot of
Speaker 1: thiggas around that time. You know, I could name three
Speaker 1: niggas that have forty years three just three niggas forty
Speaker 1: years worth of ship they gotta get back. So you know,
Speaker 1: I just wanted to do something for all our niggas,
Speaker 1: like I gotta make shore on this album that we
Speaker 1: touched those niggas that ain't here because they had so
Speaker 1: much to do with. You know what we're stand today
Speaker 1: for is you know what I mean talking how we
Speaker 1: talk here fast nigga. When he right this nigga, I've
Speaker 1: seen him making the back of milk cars, brown people
Speaker 1: bags like he just do ship like like damn bricks
Speaker 1: like this, writing like that, like fuck fast, I'm so snicker,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You know what I mean,
Speaker 1: put his ships that I gotta think. I think too
Speaker 1: much what I'm doing my ship, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: So I know what he's talking about because I wasn't
Speaker 1: even there for that session. A lot of other sessions
Speaker 1: I've is dead for you know I mean, but when
Speaker 1: he did that, uh spot, now I was dead for spots,
Speaker 1: just sucking. Uh the Green Rock, the Green Eye what's
Speaker 1: that one that ship north Star, north Star and all
Speaker 1: that ship like this's the slow ship. It's like this
Speaker 1: when his ship go off, it's like if he didn't win,
Speaker 1: that got me spitting, like how I how I spit
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean, like getting caught up
Speaker 1: in his ship, you know what I mean. So that's
Speaker 1: why I'll tell him this ship dangerous? But what does
Speaker 1: it concerrated scar face mean? What does that mean? It's
Speaker 1: it's just representing those niggas that didn't make it. It's
Speaker 1: it's for those conserrated like jail Custom and you got
Speaker 1: Star and you got you know what I mean. It's
Speaker 1: like it's like fevery nigga that I got a scar.
Speaker 1: It's like whether it's web on you, you paid your
Speaker 1: dudes to have that scar, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: If he was an athlete that you worked hard and
Speaker 1: you damn man, crush your whole ship. You work hard
Speaker 1: to get to that level where that you sacrifice that,
Speaker 1: so that's always going to be a part of you,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's like like he said,
Speaker 1: they had a lot to do with the mentality to
Speaker 1: the niggas that woid you know, what I mean. Some
Speaker 1: niggas got hit with scars and now that ain't stopping nigga.
Speaker 1: It's like, yo, that come with the terrotory, a gunshot wound,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Niggas that war ship for
Speaker 1: the right, for the reason to get them when they
Speaker 1: had to them. And yeah, let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: Niggas dropped the albums. But we had errors. He had errors.
Speaker 1: What a s can you say? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: couldn't tell if you were saying for the people that
Speaker 1: with a fucking ask yo, be you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And that and and and that just showed the strength.
Speaker 1: That was strength, like he said, it's it's a bunch
Speaker 1: of us instead of third. But we had ever. It
Speaker 1: was just like, yeahlet's stay whoever right there, whether it
Speaker 1: was like six months, seven months or whatever. If that
Speaker 1: brick beaming, then with us fool solo ship at the
Speaker 1: same time and still continue when the to hold that flag,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, we was dead with that.
Speaker 1: He was dead and you wanted to throw that at
Speaker 1: the end one tithing. You know, it was one of
Speaker 1: the most beautiful moments. We could end this one of
Speaker 1: the most beautiful moments. It was in the documentary, y'all
Speaker 1: all sitting down. It's all, y'all, it's rezis over there.
Speaker 1: I think Rays at the other side of the table,
Speaker 1: and I think you eat spaghetti and y'all sitting there
Speaker 1: and you're just talking to each other and and it's
Speaker 1: no business. It's just y'all talking to each other because
Speaker 1: and I'm just thinking as Biggie Small as lyrics and
Speaker 1: it goes, did you ever think of hip hop to
Speaker 1: take it this fall? Because you look at the beginning
Speaker 1: for this, or y'all and then you look at I
Speaker 1: don't want to say the image for this because y'all,
Speaker 1: y'r legacy is continue to grow. It's gonna always continue
Speaker 1: to grow. So there's not the ending for this. But
Speaker 1: this is the later footage and I'm sitting there, y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all all and raised it's it's you. You went at
Speaker 1: the head of the table. You're saying because I'm guessing
Speaker 1: this is a business men, because you're like, yeah, because
Speaker 1: we want to just make sure everyone all the business strike.
Speaker 1: You say that, but then you also say, I'm enjoying
Speaker 1: being here with my brothers, and I'm enjoying, you know,
Speaker 1: getting to know who y'all are. But then you also say,
Speaker 1: I want to know your babies. You say this, it's
Speaker 1: kind of whacked. You know, you got a baby, You
Speaker 1: got a baby, and we don't know each other's babies.
Speaker 1: And I'm telling him, I supposed to call you and
Speaker 1: tell you this, you know, off the side. Cry Like
Speaker 1: I literally cried because I was like, damn, you know,
Speaker 1: as much as me and poems speak to each other,
Speaker 1: I don't really know his children. See that's something that
Speaker 1: I wouldn't never think though that I don't. And what's
Speaker 1: crazy is poem busits me more because Miami's just some
Speaker 1: more lit placed He come on a younis for excuse,
Speaker 1: he really comes to see me, but you get to
Speaker 1: me my seeds. I don't really go to South Jersey. No,
Speaker 1: they just spread to South Jersey. There's just no reason
Speaker 1: for me to go to South Jersey. So I don't
Speaker 1: really get to see it, sees. But when you said that,
Speaker 1: y'all said there he said, Yo, listen, I believe it's huge,
Speaker 1: Like yo, yr sees ipposted to know your seed, you
Speaker 1: pepost to know my seas right, And I literally just
Speaker 1: like I know that you ain't trying to do that
Speaker 1: to me, But I literally was like like I couldn't
Speaker 1: hold it. I was just like, wait a minute. I
Speaker 1: just think it just set my whole life. And and
Speaker 1: it's because we become important. We become important in our world,
Speaker 1: and sometimes we forget what's happening in your world. Get
Speaker 1: what's happened in your world, but all our world that
Speaker 1: stuff Rice Engravy and four ticket Wings motted us together.
Speaker 1: Mr Childs. Several ships. Yeah, sometimes ship for what it
Speaker 1: really is and not when it is to be. We
Speaker 1: gotta put certain you know, when as you get older,
Speaker 1: we know how to put certain ships to the side,
Speaker 1: like you right, right right, because the seeds we still
Speaker 1: don't even know all each other's sees like that. We
Speaker 1: still don't you know what I mean. And that's and
Speaker 1: that's important because when I told you my siege went
Speaker 1: with his sees and sees, that's how you make That's
Speaker 1: how you said that I make that. You see. Jay
Speaker 1: Z took it recently and reiterated it and said, he said,
Speaker 1: I remember where Wou Tang said, yes, sees, so and
Speaker 1: that's how I'm supposed to Ben, That's how it's really
Speaker 1: supposed to be. Roles to be going. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Really how we don't get too much time here,
Speaker 1: but you know what I mean, golf forbid something to
Speaker 1: happen a week from that, a little tomorrow, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? And ship like that. That's why I
Speaker 1: always telling my brother I love him before I break
Speaker 1: out for me, you know what I mean. At least
Speaker 1: you could take that with you're something ever happened to meet,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, or whatever, like yo, But
Speaker 1: we gotta start thinking like like that, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, because you swear and for you to give
Speaker 1: us this right here be it's like y'all give us
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, word is born, all praises
Speaker 1: is due. It's like, yo, man, it's like this gave
Speaker 1: us flowers me, you know what I mean. Just to
Speaker 1: sit here like that with my brother and we talking
Speaker 1: to building, you know what I mean. And for y'all
Speaker 1: let me just let me just say something, bro, because
Speaker 1: we family. But again that doesn't take away from my
Speaker 1: fan and what y'all did to the game. But y'all
Speaker 1: brought what'll continue to do what you mean to the game.
Speaker 1: All we can do is can to you to salute
Speaker 1: y'all continue to respect y'all, continue to show y'all how
Speaker 1: much you mean to this game, how much you mean
Speaker 1: to this this generation, how much you mean to the public.
Speaker 1: Would they say, whooped tang us forever? And it's true, man,
Speaker 1: it's true. Man. So I just want to tell y'all
Speaker 1: face to face, man and man, and I think got
Speaker 1: this is at the law on his bottles. That's how
Speaker 1: you know he's a different nigga. I never see the
Speaker 1: law on any liquor anyway. Come on, come on, come on,
Speaker 1: super shure this this niggers know me. It's being goes
Speaker 1: right hand. This is goes golden right hand. It's like
Speaker 1: gold part of that. Come second, what's going on on?
Speaker 1: How are you going right? So I would understand that
Speaker 1: understands for understanding true. Third degree to the math matters.
Speaker 1: Now I'm supposed to understanding. That's right. So don't tell us,
Speaker 1: tell us, tell us, tell us. How proud of you all?
Speaker 1: These two brothers, I don't know. I'm sure you see,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure. You know what. The many decades
Speaker 1: when I was up in the camp watching my brothers grow,
Speaker 1: I was happy for all of them. Very goals math
Speaker 1: on TV. I used to being the representating like that. Right,
Speaker 1: there's my people's man, you know, because I felt like
Speaker 1: once they made I felt like I made it because
Speaker 1: you come from the same claude, and I see you
Speaker 1: got the wave caps too, you wave your waves to spending.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah, you know one of your people's too,
Speaker 1: talking about light and part of that revolution. And when
Speaker 1: all that ship was going on in the in the prisons,
Speaker 1: and like you said, niggas was being parents. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: he was around the time, you know. Yeah, well it
Speaker 1: was a dude from around your way and there shot yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah the glasses and yeah yeah right here in the
Speaker 1: hospital right now. Man ain't fighting for his life right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, pick up shot make wherever you are. You know,
Speaker 1: I love you. Man shot out. Yeah the glasses. You
Speaker 1: hit it right on the nose. So yeah, he in
Speaker 1: the hospital right now. You please, please, you know you
Speaker 1: don't get well, get back to it. Man, listen, let
Speaker 1: me just ahead, let's cut you off. Yea. They gave
Speaker 1: me that that that shorty five I told you for
Speaker 1: for a chroma body that he never even go he
Speaker 1: had to do that. But he's he's in the books now.
Speaker 1: It's being like the first man. For like, actual instance,
Speaker 1: I truyn, like nobody don't five didnated. Yeah, what's the
Speaker 1: different between exonerate the innocence. Well, let me just explain
Speaker 1: it to you, right, So when you get you can
Speaker 1: either get it in an interest of justice like they
Speaker 1: probably got at the Central Park, you know, draggers, and
Speaker 1: you can get it under actual innocence. The reason why
Speaker 1: they don't like to give it under actual innocence is
Speaker 1: because everything that you advocate within your emotions and you
Speaker 1: submit into the court, it's facts. There's no argument. They
Speaker 1: really can't oppose it. So that makes your civil suit strong.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sure, that's that's the lawsuit is strong. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because now they're saying that they know you didn't do it.
Speaker 1: It's an actual innocence that you didn't do this crime. However,
Speaker 1: when they give it to you with an interest of justice,
Speaker 1: they're not saying you innocent. They three that you didn't
Speaker 1: do the crime, but there's a possibility that you could
Speaker 1: have played a part in your own incarceration or whatever.
Speaker 1: So now they have legs to stand on when they
Speaker 1: go in civil court, know what I'm saying, Because they're
Speaker 1: not really oppolsed and they still want you do have
Speaker 1: to still go on civil court and prove your innocence
Speaker 1: all over like O J. O J. Beny criminally and
Speaker 1: funked up, similarly sucked up. Similar happens about time. I
Speaker 1: believe O J innocent. I don't know why he's laughing.
Speaker 1: Remem Old J. This whole time. I never switch sides.
Speaker 1: I had drinks Old J. Yeah, and some wings. He
Speaker 1: and the killer, I know, accident killers. I said, it
Speaker 1: was like murder you. He's like he's playing games. It
Speaker 1: was I'm sorry, yeah, listen now, I just like to
Speaker 1: spread my story, you know, because what happened to me,
Speaker 1: what's the injustice that should never happened to actual crime
Speaker 1: was a Custer murder, murder the second degree. I was
Speaker 1: employed the Wolf Tang at the time. You know, we
Speaker 1: all started, and that played the fact that my conservation
Speaker 1: rather and my conviction. They was trying me and they
Speaker 1: was ad on you because he was affiliated to because
Speaker 1: that's you know, you know, you know you're gonna see
Speaker 1: it all on the documentary. But it played the factor
Speaker 1: to where asked the guy that whoever he was that
Speaker 1: committed the crime, dropped the baseball cap and had to
Speaker 1: w on it and I was a toys there trying
Speaker 1: to make you know, I don't know everybody know that.
Speaker 1: So that happen is being sold all over though, because
Speaker 1: you had the wool where you remember back to North
Speaker 1: the people, so everybody was buying these cops, so you know,
Speaker 1: so they made a big thing. I only worked. They
Speaker 1: used exhibit A and use my records and they used
Speaker 1: documentations at the same time the kid died and st onland.
Speaker 1: Yeah it was murder. It's bird from the police. No no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no yeah, because it wasn't no, no, this is
Speaker 1: twenty five years ago. Just at the same time. Now
Speaker 1: I was locking up on le talking about Eric Gardener.
Speaker 1: Wasn't there another kid kid spot Yeah case case case
Speaker 1: that I don't no, that was maybe like when came out.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, that was the dead case was before
Speaker 1: kids before his case was like okay, and you do
Speaker 1: have a laws on y's okay, yeah, bro, how's the
Speaker 1: lawsuit looking that? No problem, you know, but but you
Speaker 1: need your justice oh yeah yeah yeah yeah. But listen right,
Speaker 1: I don't care how much money they give me. I
Speaker 1: get my thirdy, you know, I get my therapy boy
Speaker 1: sitting here speaking about what happened to me. That show
Speaker 1: I get to feel better about myself and you know
Speaker 1: I could deal with it. I spoke to a therapist
Speaker 1: on the phone. It's guy, I'm listening now, listen. I'm
Speaker 1: telling When I went to college, I educated myself. I
Speaker 1: helped you know, my LAYD with a lot of emotions
Speaker 1: on getting that person. I learned the LAWD. So when
Speaker 1: I'm speaking to a stranger and you know he's a therapist,
Speaker 1: he went to school for it, I and I feel
Speaker 1: he's psycho analyzing me. I started to psycho analyze him,
Speaker 1: you know, like, well, you know what makes you think
Speaker 1: you could? You know, So now we're going like that.
Speaker 1: So I said, he's useless, you see, because he fell
Speaker 1: into my trap. So he's useless. So I get more
Speaker 1: than that. People are sitting there speaking to the world
Speaker 1: tunnel what happened to me? I'm doing? How much of
Speaker 1: money I got. I'm never gonna stop advocating that. Just
Speaker 1: want you to know it too, Yeah, I want you
Speaker 1: to know yo, you know what I mean. This man
Speaker 1: was on the Purple Tape too. You know, he was
Speaker 1: a part of that movement, and you know, cheering me
Speaker 1: on and goes like he's seen the collaboration. He's seen
Speaker 1: Paul killing Stapleton. Here Stapleton naked, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: He was like, Yo, that funk with that Hill naked man, y'all.
Speaker 1: You know, we had that relationship for a long time.
Speaker 1: So it's like when the glory came, it's so crazy, no,
Speaker 1: because when the glory came, goost lourst his man to
Speaker 1: the system, and I lost my man to the system,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So even I'm talking about
Speaker 1: everything that we rhyme about, we talk about it, we
Speaker 1: laugh about, joke about, and cry about and all that.
Speaker 1: It comes from being with the niggas that you went
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, the niggas that you hang with.
Speaker 1: So it's like it was a deep depression, but it
Speaker 1: was still a success. It was like why we was
Speaker 1: missing them niggas and talking about them in records, It's
Speaker 1: like they was up there getting strength from just knowing
Speaker 1: that we we didn't we cared about. We were thinking
Speaker 1: about the lad get them niggas strip and it worked
Speaker 1: off the yard the strong and and it worked, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. You see how I go there,
Speaker 1: We're wishing my nigga. Yeah, he's like, Yo, we in
Speaker 1: because you did so. It's like the loyalty, the the
Speaker 1: you know that's important to us. Man, if we're nigga
Speaker 1: to go away for so long for something he didn't do.
Speaker 1: And then, like I said, you know this being a man,
Speaker 1: I don't know too many niggas that take Krey man
Speaker 1: for twenty five years, twenty three years and make sure
Speaker 1: I see let's see that. That's that's the solid shop
Speaker 1: everything I know name understanding his light skin. I'm talking
Speaker 1: with you, I'm thinking for my whole name understanding his
Speaker 1: lights because the mother bocuse that's why you just sucking
Speaker 1: me up. Yeah, but listen, man, Yo, thank you for
Speaker 1: sharing your story. My brother. Um they said it earlier.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize how deep it was until you sat
Speaker 1: here in front of us. And I appreciate that. I
Speaker 1: appreciate You're going to really appreciate your honesty. I appreciate Um.
Speaker 1: You're just being a part of what we salute it
Speaker 1: right now because we're saluting we're saluting Ray, were saluting
Speaker 1: Ghost and for that to be a part of the story,
Speaker 1: that's phenomenal. Man. So I want to salute you as
Speaker 1: a as a brother. I don't see if you've got
Speaker 1: anything more else to do. I think we're gonna take
Speaker 1: some pictures, and we want stures with you too as well.
Speaker 1: We'll take some drops and then and then I said, man, Bo,
Speaker 1: you know what great you know Gray? This is your
Speaker 1: third time on here, this is your first time on
Speaker 1: here goes. But I want you to know something. I
Speaker 1: want all of y'all to know something. Me and I
Speaker 1: f N did not know what the funk we were doing.
Speaker 1: We just realized it was an outlet open Dad. It
Speaker 1: didn't have no outlet for veterans. They didn't have no
Speaker 1: outlet for people who put it in the time. They
Speaker 1: didn't have no outlet. What is that's called for people?
Speaker 1: What they see our dates, people, that's already they have
Speaker 1: no outlet for that. So that's what we wanted to do.
Speaker 1: But what we wanted to do was big up people
Speaker 1: who deserve it, big up people whose legends, Big up
Speaker 1: people because a lot of people don't understand. If you're
Speaker 1: a construction worker, if you're work at McDonald's, she's working
Speaker 1: in the doctor's office, you could take that ship off
Speaker 1: and you regularly you can never be regular. It's not
Speaker 1: one day of your life you could be regular. You
Speaker 1: go to Hallmark, I don't even think it's a Hallmark
Speaker 1: open still, but you go to Hallmark and get a car.
Speaker 1: They're going, good night, We're gonna be on the stamps. One.
Speaker 1: You go to Radio Shock the ball, I know, radio
Speaker 1: shocking open. I'm saying this on purpose. You're listening, But
Speaker 1: the key thing is it's not over. It's not you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I always start back in the
Speaker 1: days that when you get to a certain level of success,
Speaker 1: niggas forget you. But then I realized that the only
Speaker 1: way they forget you is if you allow your stuff
Speaker 1: to be forgotten. You see what I'm saying. We twenty
Speaker 1: seven eight joints and niggas is still getting money, still
Speaker 1: looking young, still networking and carrying in a humble way because,
Speaker 1: like I said, you gotta be humble today to you know,
Speaker 1: to adapt the ship like unsaid, he said, the really ship, like,
Speaker 1: we don't do this for money. You do it for money,
Speaker 1: but we don't do it for him. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean. It's just yeah, it's like that's gonna always
Speaker 1: be there. But when you got solid niggas. It's like
Speaker 1: in the game, we still gotta be solid. Don't let it,
Speaker 1: don't let it change the dynamics of who you really
Speaker 1: are because you're thinking you're hide in it. But niggas
Speaker 1: can see it. Niggas canna see it, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So you know, I salute y'all just for creating.
Speaker 1: Like you said, creating sold that you felt like, Yo,
Speaker 1: we gotta pay hamas and the niggas that did it
Speaker 1: because the niggas, you know what I mean, they need
Speaker 1: something to the game. See. I remember y'all have a
Speaker 1: conversation about forming a um A union. Were still with it.
Speaker 1: You feel me, We're still right here is the type
Speaker 1: of ship I think about, and I want to be
Speaker 1: a part of that because it's only right, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. At some point, it's like, we're making
Speaker 1: so much money in the business, but how much are
Speaker 1: we really invested into ourselves to make it better for
Speaker 1: the next hundred years? And just think about this. Have
Speaker 1: you ever acted a movie? You acted in the movie right, yeah,
Speaker 1: you acted in the movie Befoul. You acted in the
Speaker 1: movie before. That's the real Anybody who ever acted in
Speaker 1: the movie do you understand that they make you pay
Speaker 1: a union feed. You don't even know that. You don't
Speaker 1: even know it, like it's just a part because it's
Speaker 1: just say, let's just say they're giving you, just greeving
Speaker 1: you a ballpark Numberlet's say they give you four hundred, ten,
Speaker 1: ten th dollars. It's going to what they call SAG.
Speaker 1: SAG is taking that until our actors union, screen actors guilt,
Speaker 1: screen actors guilt. They're figured that in the union. So
Speaker 1: now that ten thousands might feed ten in families, that's
Speaker 1: only getting paid a hundred dollars whatever, whatever. Right, But
Speaker 1: what if we did that? What if we said, all right, cool,
Speaker 1: every five shows, we're making this, this and that, let's
Speaker 1: take fifteen grand and let's put that to Brianna tell
Speaker 1: us family. Let's take that ten thousand, Let's put that
Speaker 1: towards George Floyd, Let's put that towards whatever. Whatever. You
Speaker 1: don't think we can do that, Or let's build, let's
Speaker 1: build more recreational areas, you know what I mean, Let's
Speaker 1: do things and let's take care of cool. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Let's take care of everybody, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: take care, Let's take care of like sometimes and co works.
Speaker 1: My man. Sometimes we look at co work and I'm like, fantastic,
Speaker 1: and it's something I'm like, wait a minute, let's let's
Speaker 1: let's give him the help that he's not asking for. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he shouldn't ask who herd is? The Bill Russell and
Speaker 1: rap Man, every single one of those architects and you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, everything that they get from the
Speaker 1: coach right right, And I feel like we should do that,
Speaker 1: But it's like, like you said, it's like it's like brother, pay,
Speaker 1: there's no freedom room, money there fault, so you gotta
Speaker 1: do it. Go fund me, you know. It's like, yo,
Speaker 1: you're supposed to be you know, I don't give a
Speaker 1: funk if you're getting seven hund hours a month, if
Speaker 1: you've been here over twenty years or something like that,
Speaker 1: over five five, it's like it's like veterman. But it's
Speaker 1: still like, you know, it's just like what I said, like,
Speaker 1: do you know, dud, dud? Do you know how home coverage?
Speaker 1: You know how harder this to walk to McDonald's as
Speaker 1: a as as as a famous nigger. I guess imagine
Speaker 1: how hard it is to work to McDonald's as a
Speaker 1: famous nigger, that didn't make it, like a nigga that's
Speaker 1: that that got the read lagger, spend a million on you.
Speaker 1: Everyone knows who you are. You just don't make it.
Speaker 1: But you a't being walking and mcdownd niggas like Nick
Speaker 1: like you ever be in the bullpen like people like
Speaker 1: what you're doing it here? Like like what you like, nigga?
Speaker 1: Why you think I'm in here because I got I
Speaker 1: need this seven under seven dollar meal too. It's real ship.
Speaker 1: But if you put put it in at work, I
Speaker 1: feel like you should be taking care of I feel
Speaker 1: like when it comes to the hospitals part of the
Speaker 1: flowers man, that's you know, you know, the only sport
Speaker 1: that don't take care of you was boxing. It's rappers,
Speaker 1: Bluto was boxing, Baseball hasn't. Yeah, I have something to
Speaker 1: take care of you. And football, football, the most brutal
Speaker 1: sporting fucking world beside boxing, has something to take care
Speaker 1: of you. Basketball and do something to take it, you know,
Speaker 1: a rap car us. If if I fall off and
Speaker 1: you won't answer your phone, I'm funked up. That can't
Speaker 1: be right, man, right, that can't be drug dealer's got
Speaker 1: a better union. They just sit around and say you're
Speaker 1: listening to stack up for your lawyer, stack up for
Speaker 1: your bond. That's somebotter union in hip hop, like drunk
Speaker 1: dinas sit together and say, you're listen, you gotta hire
Speaker 1: Bob Kleiner. Bob Clean is gonna be a hundred fifty
Speaker 1: So you put a hundred fifty thousands together for a
Speaker 1: lawyer that he's not from your community, he's not from
Speaker 1: your your nothing. But we save that hip hop. We
Speaker 1: don't save ship. We sit around and say she didn't watch,
Speaker 1: she didn't the new Richard merely looked good. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: went to fall right though, right needs to think about
Speaker 1: that just sometime, think about Let just just just think
Speaker 1: about it. Um. And so every show show we take
Speaker 1: thousand thousand dollars. Not it's a billion doledge. Right. Then
Speaker 1: Mellie Mel gets sick. It's like a trust fund. You
Speaker 1: golf of bid, this never happens. Golf of bid, that's
Speaker 1: never happened. But Mellie Mel gets sick. Ray called me,
Speaker 1: I called Ray, I called ghost, ghost called ef ef
Speaker 1: and call understanding. You all say let's do something for me, nah,
Speaker 1: but see the east do something to say something already,
Speaker 1: let me say something. The easy thing is, it's already
Speaker 1: in the system. It's got to be a system already,
Speaker 1: and it can't be nobody calling nobody man and everybody's
Speaker 1: a man and he has it all. You gotta be
Speaker 1: a part of the system automatically. Let golf face he's
Speaker 1: face right here. That's said. It's all he said. He said,
Speaker 1: my son is giving me a hard or kidney, whatever
Speaker 1: it was. And I sat there and I was like, great, beautiful,
Speaker 1: But scar Face made too many almost for his son
Speaker 1: to be the victor. This should have been somebody out there.
Speaker 1: God bless me. I understand that. You understand what I'm
Speaker 1: trying to say, Like scar Face made Mary Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary,
Speaker 1: and Mary. Somebody out said, Scarf here, take much here,
Speaker 1: give me your kidney. And it's supposed to be a
Speaker 1: union that funds the snicker right, excuse me that finds
Speaker 1: this person says you're ready to give Scarfish your kidney. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he signed this wager. He goes your pop. Let's go
Speaker 1: save Scarface. That's what I felt, so as much as
Speaker 1: I was honored that his son stabbed here and his
Speaker 1: son said, Yo, I'm giving my pops this kidney, and
Speaker 1: he said, for all the sun, that's beautiful, that's automatic.
Speaker 1: Let's be up, not one million percent. But scar Face
Speaker 1: gave too much for this community. For for his son.
Speaker 1: There's not even really part of the community to have
Speaker 1: to come in. It should have been some dude named
Speaker 1: Joe Corey but from Nashville that's said, get a boys,
Speaker 1: changed my life and take my ship. She cut his
Speaker 1: own kitty out here, y'all, that's what I thought. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I would let's go, let's go for that's that's just
Speaker 1: what so I want to set up that union. Shut
Speaker 1: it up, bro. Actually, the first time I actually kind
Speaker 1: of got through to anybody was yesterday when I supposed
Speaker 1: to Kanye West and I and I said that ship,
Speaker 1: and he was like, what are you talking about it?
Speaker 1: I just said, because fun me, let's think about us.
Speaker 1: One of the best things Puppy said to me one day,
Speaker 1: he's trying to get us a sign. He said, because
Speaker 1: I'm cool for me to we And I said, that's
Speaker 1: hard me the week taking that fuck Melet just think
Speaker 1: about we mm hmm picked them m put it upside down.
Speaker 1: It becomes a week we yep. If we start thinking
Speaker 1: about we, we don't ever have to think about me again.
Speaker 1: M hm, you know what I mean. Lives you saved
Speaker 1: by doing all that, you know what I mean, I'll
Speaker 1: be thinking that's just should come through like an acide
Speaker 1: check or something saying like yo, every fucking money, yeah exactly.
Speaker 1: Didn't like finding the month some things get three a
Speaker 1: hundred a month, you know what I mean, or whatever
Speaker 1: the chase it may be because this show ship, like
Speaker 1: you said, send me twenty years, so now you might
Speaker 1: get one of these new niggas that's funked up in
Speaker 1: the game. But we didn't do nothing to a stop that.
Speaker 1: From these names, they could be a chance, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. They stept to the game like you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Yeah, that's right. Though we're still
Speaker 1: going to start the union. We're still gonna do it.
Speaker 1: And the thing about it is, um, I don't want
Speaker 1: to be in charge of the funds. I want to
Speaker 1: donate the funds, but I want a David Banner to
Speaker 1: step off, like I want somebody that retrust, like I
Speaker 1: want fer to step off. And they're like, yo, we
Speaker 1: gotta do it like how they do it, like the
Speaker 1: government do it, you know what I mean, the same
Speaker 1: way like ships transparent, That count is transparent every time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like that. That's just ship there, bro, Like, let
Speaker 1: yo up. He passed away. Everybody proved that ship Yo,
Speaker 1: let it go improve, you know what I mean. That's
Speaker 1: that's that's that's exactly what I told it. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: got to be a commission for it. Yeah, like tomorrow,
Speaker 1: I don't want to wish it on nobody, but small
Speaker 1: somebody something having to somebody if we sit down, God bless,
Speaker 1: I'm just giving it that. But it's the first name
Speaker 1: that came about what happened. You never Curtis Blow, especially
Speaker 1: having to Kirk Kirk works, and now Curtis Blow sitting
Speaker 1: in the hospital saying thank you. Hip hop took him
Speaker 1: my life. Yeah, he don't need go. He on need right,
Speaker 1: he'll need Nori, he'll need IF, and he don't need Understand.
Speaker 1: He don't need miss to lead. He'll need r roster.
Speaker 1: He need hip hop because hip hop is the old
Speaker 1: two ultimate nationality. We're not really black, we don't really
Speaker 1: white me up really liked you know, we hip hop?
Speaker 1: And if hip hop is that, how many more fucker's
Speaker 1: around me right now in the industry? Too many motherfuckers
Speaker 1: like how many do you think million? Two millions? I
Speaker 1: think two point five mini MILLI And I'm sorry, I
Speaker 1: just motherfucker's you think is on right now? Like that's
Speaker 1: that's who's on. It's a hundred thousand at two point
Speaker 1: five man, just like yo, yeah, what's s point five million?
Speaker 1: Like we're they want to get into the to the union,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, they gotta pay. They got
Speaker 1: It's like, you gotta wait, motherfucking pay the dollart me
Speaker 1: fucking money. That's a dollar you got two point five
Speaker 1: montherfuckers there like that. You know you gotta do what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's educational campaign. You gotta education. You just say,
Speaker 1: that's good for you. And point five a month a
Speaker 1: dollart me fucking month. How much that go out to?
Speaker 1: It's a lot swell months, Yeah, swell months. That's a
Speaker 1: lot of bread. And let me and let me just
Speaker 1: tell your something goes. Here's a crazy ship. As I
Speaker 1: spoke to all the higher ups, like Black hire ups,
Speaker 1: Hit Pope hire ups, they all would it. They just
Speaker 1: don't want to leave it because that's all they don't
Speaker 1: want to. Like I spoke to J and I'm like,
Speaker 1: it's like come on, look at me looking at um.
Speaker 1: I can't Green. That's that's my man, such a great guy.
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry to use you as example. Hockey and
Speaker 1: I just looked at your face. But this motherfucker represented
Speaker 1: for the cannabis culture represent not doing a smart man
Speaker 1: is There's no way I kid green Ship have anything
Speaker 1: to ever come in his life, right, and him have
Speaker 1: to go to his family, right, that's not his family.
Speaker 1: He dedicated his life to this fan. M you dedicated
Speaker 1: in your life to this fan, like the only like
Speaker 1: I said, the only two blessed dead five life, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like if you didn't, like, could
Speaker 1: have been prevented, right if you like, Like I remember,
Speaker 1: I was sitting there one time before he got his kidney,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. He was a diabetic. She
Speaker 1: hadn't funked up. But then I heard his girl gave me,
Speaker 1: gave you it was a diabetter. And then I heard
Speaker 1: his girl gave him, you know what I mean, hug
Speaker 1: kidney and he like that. But I don't know what
Speaker 1: happened after that, like the Kiddy family or whatever whatever
Speaker 1: the case may be. But it was like yo, looking
Speaker 1: for the kidneys and and things like you said the
Speaker 1: money is did yo? You know much a hot Courtrey
Speaker 1: seventy maybe you know what I mean, something like that
Speaker 1: Knight Court somewhere around the ship. But yo, listen that
Speaker 1: it's south there, it's south there. It's real talk, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But I got you real talk
Speaker 1: because because I wanted. I want to know that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what my heart is like. Because I kept continuing
Speaker 1: in progress and I was like, you know what what
Speaker 1: if I'm okay? Me being okay is not enough. My
Speaker 1: wife being okay is not no, my kids being okay
Speaker 1: is not enough. I didn't sack him. I didn't come
Speaker 1: home when Thanksgiving because of this coaching. I didn't come
Speaker 1: home with Christmas. You know what I mean? Christmas as
Speaker 1: I missed because I had to go out and perform
Speaker 1: and seek my fucking asks. You what what what? What? Who?
Speaker 1: Boy can do that I'm missed? And me Holiday? It
Speaker 1: was because I was hot. I had advantage of co
Speaker 1: Chris Lightning. I said you might not be hot next year.
Speaker 1: Taking everything, so every little chroblem with the table, I
Speaker 1: smoked it, ate it. I did it for years later,
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, did I only think about me, you
Speaker 1: know how you feel like there was people who came
Speaker 1: out the same time with me as less fortunate. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm long with it, but I just want to just
Speaker 1: be clear because I really sincerely believe in us taking
Speaker 1: care of us like we That's why I really loved
Speaker 1: what Kanye was saying. And he did say some crazy ship.
Speaker 1: Let's just be clear. But when he said, let's start
Speaker 1: on the stop, let's start owning the whole communities with
Speaker 1: our community. So let's suppose ghost Face has a community,
Speaker 1: you can actually kick motherfucker's out who they obliged with
Speaker 1: your ship. So the person to say, man, I don't
Speaker 1: fun with Green, well, you can't leave his face community.
Speaker 1: Just get the funk out of here. It's legal. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm fucking thinking yea, yes, because he got he got
Speaker 1: me fucked up. But what all I'm saying is we
Speaker 1: should take care of us. You know, I remember seeing
Speaker 1: Papa Woo, remember coming out of so Be Live and
Speaker 1: Be just coming out of me seeing Papa woof just
Speaker 1: standing there talking to the young girls. You hike, but
Speaker 1: I immediately had to take him Papa Wole immediately because
Speaker 1: of y'all. Soon as I up pieces of gold. You understand,
Speaker 1: God bless rest in pieces. But that was my first
Speaker 1: time actually thinking about that. That's that's reparations, reparations, reparations, reparations.
Speaker 1: Like you understand, how hard of this have your job?
Speaker 1: How harder this to have your job? You can't go nowhere, Bro,
Speaker 1: nigga's gonna play your right whom space golf, These golf
Speaker 1: your supreme crime test I am. I'm gonna start asking
Speaker 1: you questions. You're what your mom's You're what your lady?
Speaker 1: You what your daughter? You're with your son? You can't
Speaker 1: tell these niggas fuck off. He's telling you number seven
Speaker 1: is ill. You don't even remember number seven. You're sitting
Speaker 1: there like I remember number seven. You know you don't
Speaker 1: know what number seven is, right, You're sitting there just
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