1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast am on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 2: Man, welcome back to Coast to Coast, George Nori with you. 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 2: We've got the Hollywood ghost Hunters with us up first. 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 2: As stuntman, Rick McCallum began his career back in nineteen 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 2: eighty two performing a fight scene with Chuck Norris on 6 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 2: the film b Lone Wolf kwayd. Rick has performed in 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 2: numerous action and horror movies and has more than seventy 8 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 2: five credits to his name. He has doubled for the 9 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 2: likes of Daniel Baldwin, Oliver Platt, and many horror icons, 10 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 2: including Kane Hodter and Ra Mulhaloff, whom you'll hear from shortly. 11 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 2: Rick is a founding member of the Hollywood Ghost Hunters 12 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 2: and has been on our program several times. Rick, welcome back. 13 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 3: How have you been been doing good? George? How about 14 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 3: you great? 15 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 2: Did you ever get hurt doing stunts? 16 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 3: Yes? 17 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:48,639 Speaker 2: What happened? 18 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 3: Well, I was doubling Barry Bostwick on a movie and 19 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 3: Kane was a stunt word eder Kain Hutter and they 20 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 3: wanted this metal beast. It was a giant metal where 21 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 3: Wolf smacked me, and I was supposed to go fly 22 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 3: in and I ended up running off, going off a 23 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 3: mini trap, going up and hitting a steel door upside 24 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 3: down backwards, and it didn't kick me back like it 25 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 3: had earlier, and I went straight down on my head 26 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 3: and spun around, so that one stung a bit. 27 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 2: Do they have to hospitalize you or anything like that? 28 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 3: Now? Fortunately I landed on something hard my head y. 29 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, how'd you get involved in stunts in the first place? 30 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 3: You know, it's funny. When I was getting out of college, 31 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 3: I had a degree in criminal justice and I had 32 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 3: to take a internship where they put me on the 33 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 3: h with the investigators at Maywood. And after about a 34 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 3: month of that, I realized I was meeting really rotten people, 35 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 3: not making very much money and doing a lot of paperwork. 36 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 3: So I thought, you know, there's got to be some 37 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 3: place where it's better than this. And I went, wait 38 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 3: a minute, I know a place where they have beautiful people, 39 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 3: they pay a lot more money, and they shoot fake 40 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 3: bullets at you. I'm going over there, So that's how 41 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 3: I started. 42 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 2: Then you're still doing your thing. 43 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 3: Well, I think right now I'm a little too beat 44 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 3: up to even go to the kitchen, so still do 45 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 3: the ghost hunting though. 46 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 2: Good for you. How did you end up with Ray 47 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 2: starting the ghost hunters? 48 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 3: Well, I actually started it with Kane Hodder, the guy 49 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 3: who plays Jason Baby, and we're working in Mansfield Reformatory, 50 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 3: and then Ra came in and I knew Ra because 51 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 3: he went to the same gym as me, and we 52 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 3: decided we might as well get Ra in with us, 53 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 3: so it was the three of us, and not long 54 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 3: after that we were on Ghost Adventures and then we're 55 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 3: starting to get more footage. And then this one nice 56 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 3: guy named George Noruri brought us in on Queen Mary 57 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 3: and that helped quite a bit too. 58 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 2: That was a fun time, Meghatt. So long ago, wasn't. 59 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:58,839 Speaker 3: It, Rick, Yeah, it was twenty ten? 60 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 2: Where did the time go? 61 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 3: Up? To my hair? I thank you? 62 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 2: What have you learned about ghosts by this time? 63 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 3: That they are absolutely one hundred percent true, that they 64 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 3: will treat you the way you treat them. And you know, 65 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 3: I don't like the term ghost hunting. I like to 66 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 3: go investigate and then see if I can't make friends 67 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 3: with Some of the ghosts get a lot more answers 68 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 3: from them when they like. 69 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 2: You were you always a believer. Prior to getting involved 70 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 2: in the ghost hunting, when I. 71 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 3: Was thirteen, I had a pretty memorable experience that kind 72 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 3: of launched me. My grandfather had died and we took 73 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 3: him by train to Paducah, Kentucky to bury him, and 74 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 3: my mother and I. Because it happened so fast, she 75 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 3: didn't have much money. We didn't have a hotel, so 76 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 3: we just started walking down the street and we saw 77 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 3: this old place, you know, brownstone, with flickering lights. It 78 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 3: looked like they should film every murder mystery movie in 79 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 3: that place. And we went in. She says, do you 80 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 3: have a room and she got He goes, I've only 81 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 3: got one left, and she said, well, how much is it? 82 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 3: And it was cheap. So the guy goes, I have 83 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 3: to tell you about it's haunted. Now. I was thirteen 84 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 3: at the time, and I was like, whoa golden ticket 85 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 3: to Disneyland? 86 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: Right? 87 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 3: Well, when we got up there, it was like a 88 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 3: volleyball court. It was rectangular wood and there was a 89 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 3: rolling bed on each side. It was probably twenty feet across, 90 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 3: and we'd been traveling, we were tired. We went to 91 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 3: bed and I heard a scream and I sat up 92 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 3: and I looked over. My mother's bed is just zipping 93 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 3: all across the floor towards me, and I realized my 94 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 3: bed is flying along towards her, and we smashed together 95 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 3: in the middle of the room, and my mother just 96 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 3: looked at me, and then she went, I think the 97 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 3: guy downstairs is right. So we did everything we could 98 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 3: do to debunk it. Nobody even heard the word debunked 99 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 3: back then, and I tried pushing it from the side 100 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 3: and it went about three feet, you know. We put 101 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 3: rolled things down to see if the floor was warped 102 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 3: and none of that. So after that I was pretty hooked. 103 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 2: Fantastic. Now you're still doing some movies when you're not sore. 104 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 2: What have been some of the monster roles you played 105 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 2: that you enjoyed? 106 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 3: Oh? Well, I played the monster in Deep Star six, 107 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 3: which was an underwater monster that was pretty challenging. Played 108 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 3: the monster in Love and Time of the Monsters that 109 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 3: was up in the Redwood Forest. That was fun. Matter 110 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 3: of fact, I saw a UFO there while I was there. 111 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 3: And what other wores have been? Oh, Dark Wolf. I 112 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 3: played the lead character in that. My favorite movie, Ra 113 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,919 Speaker 3: was in It also was called Hatchet Too, and that 114 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 3: was one of Adam Green's movies. He was a director, 115 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 3: and we both got killed in spectacular fashion by Kane. 116 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 3: So you buddy, Yeah, we known him for forty four years. 117 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 3: I don't know why you talked to me. 118 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 2: How long does how long does makeup take? Sometimes? 119 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 3: Rick, Well, it depends on what you're doing. I doubled 120 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 3: sid Hagen Devil's Rejects, and I had to get the 121 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 3: bald wig on and the tattoos on the forearms and 122 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 3: the beard and the whole thing. And I've had in 123 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 3: some places when we were in when we did Fallen Angels, 124 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 3: I had it was like four hours to put it on, 125 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 3: about three hours to take it off. So it can 126 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 3: be harder than the doing the stunts. It's sitting in 127 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 3: the makeup chair. 128 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 2: Has Hollywood changed over the years based on horror flex 129 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,799 Speaker 2: I mean we remember the old ones with Bors Karloff 130 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 2: and Lon Cheney and Vincent Price. What are they like nowadays? 131 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 3: Oh, they're much more brutal. I mean back then there 132 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 3: was more of a story, more of a build up. 133 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 3: Now it's how many people can you put in the 134 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 3: pile before the end of the movie. So it has changed, 135 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 3: but they're still good. I like watching them, so I 136 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 3: like being in them. You know. 137 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 2: You still going to Scotland every year? 138 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,679 Speaker 3: Oh you bet, I do. I don't know if you remember, 139 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:18,239 Speaker 3: but I actually sent you a birthday wish from Rosland 140 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 3: Chapel while I was there. 141 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 2: I remember that. Oh yeah, that was cool. Why do 142 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 2: you go so often? 143 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 3: Something about that place draws me to it. The people 144 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 3: there are fantastic and this is a small country that 145 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 3: had three thousand castles, So if you're a ghost hunting guy, 146 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 3: that's like, you know, going to heaven. And I've actually 147 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 3: met up with a group called Scottish Paranormal which I 148 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 3: think is probably the best group that there is, and 149 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 3: they made me an honorary member and they put me 150 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,679 Speaker 3: in their Hall of Fame. So I go ghost hunting 151 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 3: with them a lot when I get back there. So 152 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 3: Scotland is really something if you could for the people 153 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 3: out there. If you want to go ghost hunting, head 154 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 3: to Scotland. 155 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 2: How long do you normally stay out there once you 156 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 2: go out there? 157 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 3: Roughly three weeks. 158 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 2: Well that's a pretty long poke. 159 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 3: Oh yeah. Well I like to go to a lot 160 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 3: of different towns. I mean I go to Glasgow, Inverness, Edinburgh, 161 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 3: Roslind You know, so I jump around and get to 162 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 3: go to a whole bunch of other places. We go 163 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 3: up to the northern you know, the northern part, the 164 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 3: southern part. I mean, we're all over the place and 165 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 3: ghost on pretty much every night. So that's my shangri law. 166 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 2: What do you think makes some areas more prevalent for 167 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 2: ghosts rick than other spots? 168 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 3: Well, and not to be flip, but anybody who's seen 169 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:46,359 Speaker 3: Brave Heart. 170 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 2: That's Mel Gibson. 171 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 3: The yeah, yeah, that these people fought face to face 172 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 3: with swords and knives and to the point where you 173 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 3: could smell the guy's breath. That you and that kind 174 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 3: of energy sticks around for a while, you know. There's 175 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 3: there's you know, thousands and thousands of people that died 176 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 3: in the battles. 177 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 2: What's your latest book? The Spirits are out. 178 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 3: There, Spirits are out there. I'm working on another one. 179 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 3: I was lucky enough the first one ghost Believe in 180 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 3: Me won the Paranormal Book of the Year awards, so 181 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 3: that that made me pretty happy. 182 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 2: Good for you. You enjoyed doing what you're doing, don't you? 183 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 2: So do the others? 184 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah, I actually love meeting new people, 185 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 3: you know, going to new places. You know that for me, 186 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 3: that's that's a good life. 187 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 2: Where do people get your books? 188 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 3: Rick? On Amazon? If you go on to Rick McCollum, 189 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 3: mcc a L l U N you know, you can 190 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 3: find it there. You could find it by the title 191 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 3: Ghosts Believe in Me. And the other one is the 192 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 3: spirits are out there and they're waiting for you. 193 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 2: Ever been scared to death by a ghost? 194 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 3: I've been scared to death by something that happened. I 195 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 3: got something that attached to me and just about and 196 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 3: I hate to say this because it sounds so melodramatic, 197 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 3: but there are plenty of witnesses who were there. They 198 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 3: were getting ready to call ambulances and everything else because 199 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 3: they thought I was dying. Yeah, it was. 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