1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 2: All right, we've got another legal case in Minnesota. Democratic 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 2: politicians are getting subpoened by Trump's Justice Department over interfering 5 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 2: with the interfering with the ice roundups that were going on. 6 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 2: Tim Waltz, the governor, also Jacob Fry, the Minneapolis mayor, 7 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: the state attorney general, Keith Ellison, the Saint Paul mayor, 8 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 2: Kaoli Hurr, and then other officials in those counties. And 9 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 2: this is interesting. They're they're they're going to be looking 10 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 2: to see if there's any emails, any documents that show 11 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:58,959 Speaker 2: that these officials conspired to obstruct or impede the immigration 12 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 2: agents into Minnesota. So let's go to Royal Oaks to 13 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 2: explain all this. Royle, how are you? 14 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 3: I'm doing great? John. Before we start, I got to 15 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 3: say shout out to Alex Done. I loved hearing your 16 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 3: interview him. I've worked with Alex on everything from OJ 17 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 3: to Trumpet in between. He is so cool, such a 18 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 3: tremendous reporter, So I always love it when I hear 19 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 3: him on your air. Yeah. Oh, he's terrific. So here's 20 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 3: a big deal about the Minnesota thing. What the Department 21 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 3: of Justice is saying to, you know, the mayor Minneapolis 22 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 3: and the governor, you guys aren't just expressing opinions. You're 23 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 3: interfering with our operations. And they have to say that because, 24 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 3: as you know, John, it's okay for a mayor or 25 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 3: a governor anybody to say, you know, I hate Donald Trump. 26 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 3: Ice is terrible, blah blah blah. We're going to file lawsuits. 27 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 3: We're going to get a judge to shut you down. 28 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 3: You can't stop people from doing that. What the DJ 29 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 3: is saying is you are directing your subordinates, like the cops, 30 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 3: the city staff, to physically block us, to delay us, 31 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 3: to disrupt to ICE operation, not merely refuse cooperation. So 32 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 3: that's going to be the big question. Does the DJ 33 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 3: have the receipts can they show to a judge after 34 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 3: these subpoenas go out and they get all sorts of 35 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 3: documents that Tim Walls crossed the line Because everybody knows 36 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 3: he's free to bloviate and say whatever he wants, that's 37 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 3: the deal in America. He just can't cross that line. 38 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: Even with the rhetoric. 39 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 2: Is there a line when it comes to Waltz and 40 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 2: Fry whipping up all the anger and the emotions among 41 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 2: the people who are now targeting ICE agents. Is there 42 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 2: something they could say that their words would get him 43 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:41,839 Speaker 2: into trouble or are we going to have to look 44 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 2: to documents or witnesses that there were phone calls or 45 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 2: text messages or something directing specific acts. 46 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great question. The short answer is you're 47 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 3: not going to be able to get them on words. 48 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 3: And here's why everybody knows. You know, the class hackneyed example. 49 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 3: You've got to write to free speech, which can't yell 50 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 3: fire on a crowded theater. Well, that's right. And you've 51 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 3: got to write free speech which can't lie about somebody 52 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 3: and defame them and liable them and so on, and 53 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 3: that's true. And the other classic example is you got 54 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 3: to write free speech, but you can't stand up in 55 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 3: the soap box and with people into such a frenzy, 56 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 3: you say, I want you to go burn down that 57 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 3: public building, and you are a persuasive silver tongue devil, 58 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 3: and sure enough they burn it down and kill folks 59 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 3: because of what you said. Now that is inciting to 60 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 3: riot and theoretically, Tim Wallas could do that. Now, let's 61 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 3: give him his due. He used to be a big 62 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 3: football high school football coach. I think that's why Kamala 63 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 3: picked him as their vice president, well and any other reason. 64 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 3: So maybe he is a persuasive guy, you know, a 65 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 3: halftime speech. But let's face it, this guy and he 66 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 3: didn't whip anybody into a frenzy. Really, if somebody has 67 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 3: footage of him, you know, suddenly turning in to that 68 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 3: kind of person, fine, you could get him. But barring 69 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 3: something weird like that, your second instinct is right that 70 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 3: they have to be you know, texts or the emails. 71 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 3: And even after like twenty or thirty years john, people 72 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 3: knowing I better not put something stupid in my work 73 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 3: email because you know the boss has access to it. 74 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 3: People still do stuff. They say things that are going 75 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 3: to destroy their their civil lawsuits. But so in this case, 76 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 3: I think the DOJ is hoping to get lucky. They 77 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 3: may be on a fishing expedition, Okay, they may just 78 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 3: want to send a message to the mayors and the 79 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 3: city council folks and the governor to discourage them from 80 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 3: crossing the line from just free speech to actual interference. 81 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 3: But do they have a smoking gun where some politician 82 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 3: in Minnesota actually said to somebody, Look, you know, let's 83 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 3: refuse lawful warrants or let's lie to the federal agents. 84 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 3: We all hate ice. There's no reason to play fair 85 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 3: with these guys because these guys are monsters. That may 86 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 3: be there. But you know, if Trump had that in 87 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 3: his hip pocket, we would have known it by now, probably. 88 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: Right, So this could be they're trying to scare them 89 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: into shutting. 90 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 3: Up exactly right. They want to chill them, They want 91 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 3: to discourage them from from you know, a vehement opposition 92 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 3: and trying to whip the public into a frenzy, discourage 93 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 3: them again from crossing that line that's there between free speech. Yeah, 94 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 3: let me ask. 95 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: You, is that legal? 96 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 2: Is it legal to threaten investigations and charges just to 97 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 2: shut up your critics. 98 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: When you don't have any other evidence that they work legal? 99 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 3: That's that's not permissible because what you're doing then is 100 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 3: you're using the power of the government to prevent people 101 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 3: from exercising their rights. But that is a tough one 102 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 3: because in order to go against Trump or his folks, 103 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 3: you know, Christi Noman, head of DHS, or whatever. You'd 104 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 3: have to prove that they knew darn well they were lying, 105 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 3: and good luck on that. You know, talk about, you know, 106 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 3: getting somebody to have a subpoena and get texts and 107 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 3: so on. Yeah, if you had government officials who were 108 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 3: saying to each other secretly in their tech string, Okay, 109 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 3: we know we're lying here, but we're going to threaten 110 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 3: people and tell them, you know, you're going to be 111 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 3: the subject of a Department of Justice criminal investigation. Absolutely, 112 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 3: you could sue them. They might even be guilty of 113 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 3: a crime on the book someplace, but it's very difficult 114 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 3: to demonstrate that because you know, the fallback is always look, hey, 115 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 3: I truly believed that these Minnesota politicians were getting in 116 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 3: our way and had told people or may have told 117 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 3: people to interfere with legitimate ice operations. And you know, 118 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 3: I didn't think I was lying. It turned out, you know, 119 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 3: there was no there there. You know, Sorry, sue me 120 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 3: or don't sue me, because I had a right to 121 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 3: say all this stuff. 122 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 2: I'm Waltz like Gavin Newsom here. They know that they 123 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 2: know about the supremacy Clause. They know that federal government 124 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 2: has absolute power to enforce immigration law, and California and 125 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 2: Minnesota have none. They can't overrule what the US is doing. 126 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 2: But they know this, So this is all just political 127 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 2: theater and trying to whip up their base. 128 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is performative, exactly right, because you know, when 129 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 3: you talk about sanctuary cities or sanctuary states, as you're suggesting, 130 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 3: if you read your federal Constitution, the supremacy clause as 131 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 3: you say, says, you know, it's nice that you've got 132 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 3: these local laws, but the law of the land is 133 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 3: the Constitution. A federal law trumps the city or the 134 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 3: state laws. And therefore, to the extent you have your 135 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 3: sanctuary city in San Francisco, do your thing. But if 136 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 3: we ride into town to enforce a federal law, you 137 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 3: can't get in our way. The fact that you have 138 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 3: a sanctuary city doesn't make it a federal sanctuary city. 139 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 3: And if you interfere with us, then you're the ones 140 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 3: that are going to go to jail. So yeah, there's 141 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 3: this constant push pull conflict between the Feds, who have 142 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 3: the advantage because of the clause and the locals. 143 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: All right, Royll, thank you for coming on. Royal Oaks. 144 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: ABC News. Legal analysts you bad. Thanks, Well, we've got 145 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: further information on this. 146 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI A 147 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 4: six forty. 148 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 2: He just finished with the Royal Oaks from ABC News 149 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 2: about another legal case. This is Minnesota Democratic officials getting 150 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 2: subpoenaed by the Federal Justice Department, Department of Justice. This 151 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 2: is Tim Waltz, the governor, Jacob Fry, the Minneapolis mayor, 152 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 2: the Attorney General, Keith Ellison, the Saint Paul mayor, Kaui Herr, 153 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 2: and then other county officials. And you know the rhetoric 154 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 2: that's been coming out of these guys, and it's been 155 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 2: very strongly, belligerently anti ICE, and the Trump administration is 156 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 2: looking to see whether they're what they've said has has 157 00:08:55,200 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 2: whipped up people into resisting ICE and committing federal crimes 158 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 2: of interference. And of course, you could say whatever you 159 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 2: want to say with the exceptions that that royal went through, 160 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 2: but they're also looking to see if it was a 161 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 2: coordinated effort between these protest groups and people in government, 162 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 2: which is very possible. The activist groups are more tied 163 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 2: into these left wing governments than has ever been known. 164 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 2: And again I point to Karen Bass during the Ice riots, 165 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 2: appearing before reporters with a one of the leaders of Churla, 166 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 2: which was an illegal alien nonprofit. And Churla turns out 167 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 2: gets forty three million dollars or thirty four million dollars 168 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 2: I believe in state tax money, and what they were 169 00:09:54,920 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 2: doing was just sending out their members to mix it 170 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 2: up with Ice. 171 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: They were an integral part of the riot. 172 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 2: So it doesn't surprise me with all the tax money 173 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 2: shoveled out by here by the likes of Karen Bass 174 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 2: and Gavin Newsome, and in Minneapolis, Boy, Minneapolis and Minnesota, 175 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 2: I have very I've spent very limited time there exactly 176 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 2: one weekend a friend of mine who's getting married, and 177 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 2: that couple still lives there, but that weekend was the 178 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 2: only time I've ever been there, and it seemed every 179 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 2: very pleasant. You know, there's a phrase called Minnesota nice. 180 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 2: You've probably seen it charactered, caricatured in television shows and movies, 181 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 2: but it's a very pleasant, respectful, laid back citizenry. 182 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: And the stuff. 183 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 2: In the last five years, going back to George Floyd 184 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty and the massive riots after that, and 185 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 2: now we found out that there's just what eighty hundred 186 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 2: thousand Somala and you've got ninety somalis arrested and charged 187 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 2: with ripping off maybe nine billion dollars in tax money. 188 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 2: And then Trump sends a huge number of ICE agents 189 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 2: where a good gets gets shot and killed. There's and 190 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 2: now you get the governor getting getting investigated, the mayor 191 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 2: getting investigated. This is after the governor completely went splat 192 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 2: and embarrassing himself running for vice president. 193 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: My whole life, Minnesota's almost. 194 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 2: Never in the news, and now it's it seems as 195 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 2: wacky as California, and it's the same politics. Here's another 196 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 2: clip we're going to play out of Minnie Minneapolis tech workers. 197 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 2: We're having lunch at a restaurant and the dumb sex 198 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 2: of crap who are protesting ICE mistook the text worker 199 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 2: tech workers for ICE agents. 200 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: Listen to what happened. Simple, I mean, this. 201 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 5: Is I mean so cool as this has gotta be 202 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 5: the funny stinging Ever, it's like you feel like you. 203 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 6: Lose, like the trauma we're not with us, And yeah. 204 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 2: I would what we we do custom apps for a 205 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 2: whole bunch of companies around Minnesota in the country. 206 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: Why you are looking. 207 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 2: I don't have anything. This is what ron. No, it's not. 208 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 3: There's's no relationship with that doesn't. 209 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 4: Lunch. 210 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, have you ever heard a bigger bunch of morons 211 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 2: than those ice activists? 212 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 1: These are tech geeks eating lunch. 213 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 2: They work in the tech industry, have nothing to do 214 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 2: with ice. You're one guy, say hey, I'm against ice too. 215 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 2: And there's these these these like barnyard animals are blowing 216 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 2: their whistles. 217 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 1: That is the. 218 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 2: Dumbest collection of people have ever heard. But this is 219 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,199 Speaker 2: what most of them are, like, all of them are 220 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 2: like practically there's stupid, hysterical people barging into a restaurants screaming. 221 00:13:54,120 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: At guys having lunch because he's thought their ICE agents. 222 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: What is wrong here? Is that ever gonna end? 223 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 2: It's based on extreme emotion, hysteria and chest absolute start 224 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 2: raving stupidity. I don't know how you stop. There's nobody 225 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 2: to stop stupidity. You can't stop hysteria. If you're not 226 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 2: for us, you're against It's like, shut up, go home. 227 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 2: Honest to god, you've already seen people get killed doing 228 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 2: these stupid things. 229 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: Go home. 230 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 2: You're not gonna change anything, Obviously, you didn't change anything. 231 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 2: I think Trump said three thousand immigration agents to Minneapolis. Well, 232 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 2: you're gonna stop them with your stupid whistle. I just stop, 233 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 2: absolutely baffled. I've been enjoying playing old clips of Obama, 234 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 2: Hillary and Bill Clinton when they're as rapidly anti illegal immigrant. 235 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: As Trump is. 236 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 2: And when we come back, I got another clip for you, 237 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 2: and this is one from twenty three years ago, and 238 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 2: its center Senator Dianne Feinstein of California traveling to the 239 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 2: southern border with another group of Democrats and she was 240 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 2: pissed and the other Democrats were pissed about illegal immigration 241 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 2: at the border. Play you this is all real. This 242 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 2: was the nineteen nineties, which might have been the last 243 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 2: same period in America. 244 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: No, not now. 245 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 4: When we come back, you're listening to John Cobelt on 246 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 4: demand from KFI AM six forty. 247 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 2: Follow us on social media at John Cobelt Radio. Do 248 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 2: that now, would you? At John Cobelt Radio all all 249 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 2: the whatever it is out there, if it exists, we're there. 250 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 2: And the YouTube channel we put out new longer form 251 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 2: segments every day after the show. Go to John Cobelt 252 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 2: Show at no. 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All right, now we're talking about 257 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 2: all the insanity going on in Minneapolis. 258 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: This hour. 259 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 2: We had were oaks on because the Department of Justice, 260 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 2: the FEDS are looking to subpoena Tim Waltz and the 261 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 2: Attorney General and the mayor of Minneapolis, Jacob Frye, saying 262 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 2: that they might have been conspiring to interfere with all 263 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 2: the ICE activity. 264 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: Whether they were just using their. 265 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 2: Words, which is legal, or actually communicating with them to 266 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 2: create strategy and policy, which is illegal. I don't know, 267 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 2: but they're going to go looking just to harass them 268 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 2: if nothing else. And I just played you a clip 269 00:16:52,560 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 2: of tech workers in Minneapolis. The stupid, dumbass anti ICE protesters. 270 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 2: They barged in on a bunch of tech guys were 271 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 2: reading lunch, you know, and demanded justice. And they're not 272 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 2: Ice guys, and they were demanding at least that they 273 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,199 Speaker 2: have these people's support. It's like they barge in on 274 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 2: your lunch and the demand you agree with them or 275 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 2: they're gonna ruin your lunch. 276 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:24,959 Speaker 1: Maybe they're gonna pick it up and toss it. What 277 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: you do? Really? 278 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 2: Do you have kids at home? Do you want something 279 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 2: to do a job? Oh, this is your job. Sorry, 280 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 2: I keep forgetting. Let's go back to nineteen ninety three. 281 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 2: Dianne Feinstein was the California Senator. She was pissed off 282 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 2: about the border. I played you clips of Bill Clinton, 283 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton, and Barack Obama going back thirty years, played 284 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 2: a number of them last week, all of them absolutely 285 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 2: positively we're shutting down the border. In fact, you know what, 286 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 2: I made a went made the rounds on the internet 287 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 2: over the weekend, and I had to double check it 288 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 2: to see if what's real. Do you know who got 289 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 2: the Presidential Medal of Freedom? Tom Holman from Barack Obama. 290 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 2: Barack Obama gave Tom Holman the Presidential Medal of Freedom 291 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 2: for his immigration work. That's right, go look it up yourself. 292 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 2: And back then in ninety three, Diane Feinstein went to 293 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 2: the southern border with a group of Democrats and they 294 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 2: went there not in solidarity to a legal alien sneak 295 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 2: it over. They went there to say we've got to 296 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 2: stop these people. Play cut number four, The. 297 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 6: Day when America could be the welfare system or Mexico 298 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 6: is gone. We simply can't afford it. And I think 299 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 6: you've seen the figures to state in local governments of 300 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 6: what the cost is. It's over two billion dollars in 301 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 6: California alone. And I have those figures if you want 302 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 6: them in specific, in my purse. And that's why the 303 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 6: issue is now joined with two million illegal immigrants. It's 304 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 6: a competition for space. Whether the space is a job, 305 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 6: the space is a home, a place in a classroom, 306 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 6: it becomes a competition for space. This is a country 307 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 6: that's based on immigration, and we all know that, and 308 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 6: yet at times you become so overtaxed you have to 309 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 6: concentrate on saying the people we should be here are 310 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 6: those who come legally at this time, and we've got 311 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 6: to for the time being enforce our borders. 312 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 2: Well, there's that famed right wing xenophobic, hateful lunatic Diane 313 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 2: Feinstein nineteen ninety three, back when everybody was much more rational. 314 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 1: That's shocking. That's I'm gonna keep finding these clips. They're 315 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: all over the internet these days. 316 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 2: So that's Obama, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Dianne Feinstein very 317 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 2: strongly saying we got to. 318 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 1: Stop this illegal immigration. It's a bad thing. Now. 319 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 2: We played you the clip of those tech guys trying 320 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 2: to have lunch in Minneapolis and they got they got 321 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 2: angrily harassed by anti ICE protesters. Target has got big 322 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 2: problems with this crowd. Target it has a well, they're 323 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 2: they're headquarters is in the Minneapolis area, and there's a 324 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 2: store in Richfield, Minnesota. And their cell phone video that 325 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 2: Border Patrol agents detained two Target employees and both employees 326 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 2: were filming the agents, one of them cursing at them, 327 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 2: and I guess the ICE agents had enough and detain 328 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 2: the two of them. One of the workers start screaming, 329 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 2: I'm a US citizen, I'm a US citizen, US citizen. 330 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 2: And they have gone into a number of Targets, I guess, 331 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 2: going after employees who are here illegally. And now the 332 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 2: dumbass protesters are trying to boycott Target because Target let 333 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 2: the ICE agents in. Not knowing because these people know 334 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 2: nothing is that Target has no power to keep ICE 335 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 2: agents out. It's a public store. The store aisles are public, 336 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 2: the parking lots are public. There's no reasonable expectation of 337 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 2: privacy in those public spaces. According to attorneys, now the 338 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 2: offices in the back of the store behind closed doors 339 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 2: are only searchable with a warrant, but everywhere else is 340 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 2: fair game. Now you can ask them to leave, according 341 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:14,959 Speaker 2: to the attorneys, but that's not a constitutional violation just 342 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 2: because they're in your store, detaining our arresting people. And 343 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 2: so the ice people are making a ruckus and going 344 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 2: after Target store employees who have nothing to do with 345 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 2: the problem. They're going after, like I said, those tech 346 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 2: guys who are trying to have lunch. So the Anthony 347 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 2: Jones is a shopper and de Anthony looked at video 348 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 2: of the episode of the Target employees getting arrested and said, 349 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 2: it's terrible. I probably shouldn't be coming here and giving 350 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 2: them my money. Target apparently keeps getting involved in all 351 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 2: sorts of political disputes because the whole world is either 352 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 2: on one side or the other. I mean, I go 353 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 2: to Target for what? We buy towels sheets? What do 354 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 2: you go to Target for? 355 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: I'm a what that's all. I find it a boring store. 356 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:16,360 Speaker 1: It's very tedious. 357 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 2: I hate when I have to go on the Target 358 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 2: run because they have, you know, one hundred and fifty 359 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 2: aisles and I don't know where anything is, and it's 360 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 2: all you know, basic home goods that it's kind of 361 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 2: stuff I don't want. I don't want to spend any 362 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 2: time looking for and trying to buy the right one. 363 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 2: They're also been under assault for ending its diversity, equity 364 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 2: and Inclusion program. They either get protested for having one, 365 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 2: protested for not having one. Also, you remember that they 366 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 2: were selling for a while these these onesies for little 367 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 2: babies and toddlers, and they came up with some I 368 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 2: don't know it was there rainbow logo on it or something. 369 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, it was designed so it would 370 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 2: work for a male or a female baby, or a 371 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 2: trans baby. 372 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 1: Can babies be trans? 373 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 2: And so they, you know, in order to show their 374 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 2: solidarity with the movement during Pride Month, they tried to 375 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 2: sell this thing whatever the hell it was, and people 376 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 2: went crazy and boycotted Target for that. So they're boycotted 377 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 2: over DEI, they're boycotting over the immigration stuff, over that 378 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 2: stupid onesie. They've got boycotted over and some of these 379 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 2: boycotts have actually stuck and cost them money. There was 380 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 2: one policy that allowed transgender employees and customers to choose 381 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 2: the bathroom that corresponded with their identity, and I guess 382 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 2: a lot of customers said, no, I don't want that. 383 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 2: I don't want you know, if you're a woman. I 384 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 2: don't want a guy in the bathroom. I don't want 385 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 2: a guy who identifies as a woman. I don't want 386 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 2: a guy who's in the middle of a transition. I 387 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 2: don't want a guy a guy who's faking it. I 388 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 2: don't want that. So that was a big problem. 389 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: It's like, you just can't go shopping, just simply shopping. 390 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 1: You can't just eat lunch. 391 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 392 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 4: six forty Tomorrow. 393 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 2: After three o'clock, we are going to have a guy 394 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 2: who's running for California Assembly and he's the guy who 395 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 2: put out the video that we played earlier. He went 396 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 2: on a run and he ran his usual morning run 397 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 2: around Santa Monica and Venice, and he found eighty three 398 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 2: homeless people. 399 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,199 Speaker 1: He counted eighty three homeless people. We played some of 400 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 1: the video. 401 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 2: His name is Dick Lucas, and Dick Lucas is going 402 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 2: to come on our show tomorrow. He's running for the 403 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 2: Assembly district that covers part of the West side of 404 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 2: La and Santa Monica, and that. 405 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 1: Was quite a video. 406 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 2: We put out any three people laying there, some of 407 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 2: them standing zombie, one woman screaming her head off. I 408 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 2: want to find out how long that run was. Meantime, 409 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom, and I'll get more into this tomorrow. These 410 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:26,719 Speaker 2: stories are just coming in. He went to Europe, to Switzerland. 411 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 2: There's an international conference called Davos, and he was yelling 412 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 2: at the European leaders to stand up to Trump. He 413 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 2: said they were pathetic. He should have brought knee pads 414 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 2: for them. Meantime, back in his home state, while he's 415 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 2: busy yelling at European leaders, who I'm sure don't give 416 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 2: a crap what he says, there's another story about the 417 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 2: deadly bacteria outbreak in Berkeley at a homeless encampment. This 418 00:26:54,800 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 2: disease is called lipto spirosis found in rats in the encampments, 419 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 2: and they're trying to clear the homeless out. They want 420 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 2: them to move at least a third of a mile 421 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 2: from the red zone, several square blocks. There's this leptospirosis 422 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 2: and this is a doozy fever, headache, vomiting, and if 423 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 2: it's not treated Oregon failure, internal bleeding, meningitis, and death. 424 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 1: And it's a breeding ground. 425 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 2: And when you see people living in squalor, trash and 426 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 2: human race, it's a peatrie dish. LA Councilwoman Tracy Park says, 427 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 2: this could be here if it's in Berkeley, it's only 428 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 2: a matter of time, perhaps in Venice because the city's 429 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 2: homeless services authority. In LA, the Homeless Services Authority does 430 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 2: not test for this bacteria in the homeless encampments, and 431 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 2: they have the same filth and human waste and rats 432 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 2: which would gorge on the food that the homeless leave behind. 433 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 2: So if it's in Berkeley, it might already be here, 434 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 2: but we don't test it. Don't go near the homeless 435 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 2: encampments obviously for a lot of reasons. 436 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: But be very careful. 437 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 2: If this is a big outreak outbreak, you could have 438 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 2: a lot of casualties. All Right, we'll be back tomorrow 439 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 2: and we've got Michael Kurser with the news. Conway is 440 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 2: next live in the KFI twenty four hour newsroom. Hey, 441 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 2: you've been listening to the John Cobalt Show podcast. You 442 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 2: can always hear the show live on KFI Am six 443 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 2: forty from one to four pm every Monday through Friday, 444 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 2: and of course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.