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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody to the Tuesday, December second edition of the

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Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. We are racked and stacked.

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Speaker 1: First order of business, got to get to it right away,

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Speaker 1: just to get it on your radar, because we do have,

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Speaker 1: thanks to one of us being a born and raised

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Speaker 1: Tennessee and in fact a Nashvillian, more specifically, very important

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Speaker 1: seventh Congressional District in Tennessee, Afton Baine, trying to get

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Speaker 1: sneaky and take this seat away from the Republican mister

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Speaker 1: Van Epps, and I think that we need to make

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Speaker 1: sure that doesn't happen. My friends, you need to get

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Speaker 1: out and devote. Today is election day. It is happening

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Speaker 1: special election, special election. Do not be caught napping on

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Speaker 1: this one. This is important because if nothing else, they

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Speaker 1: will make fun of and antagonize our good friend Clay

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Speaker 1: every day if he has basically the most left wing

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Speaker 1: member of Congress in the United States Congress as his

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Speaker 1: home Congress. It's not just Clay. You got a hold

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Speaker 1: basically the whole Daily Wire. Shapiro doesn't live there, but

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Speaker 1: the rest of Daily Wires there. Matt Walsh, I think

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Speaker 1: is in the area right does Matt Walsh live roughly.

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Speaker 2: In Matt Walsh is there, Michael Knowles, our friend Riley Gaines,

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Speaker 2: Tommy Kandarn Canvas Owens.

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Speaker 1: So it's a lot, It's a lot. This is like,

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Speaker 1: this is a hometown fight here for the seventh Congressional

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Speaker 1: and all of you who are listening need to get

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Speaker 1: out and need to vote. Let's not give the Democrats

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Speaker 1: something early to celebrate going into.

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Speaker 2: This this morning. So I'm telling you to do exactly

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Speaker 2: what I did. I dropped my son off at school

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Speaker 2: and then I walked right into the precinct there and

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Speaker 2: I voted. So I'm asking everybody in from the border

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Speaker 2: of Kentucky to the border of Alabama the seventh congressional district.

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Speaker 2: I even had a friend text me and say, hey,

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Speaker 2: I thought that that was my district right to go

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Speaker 2: to my polling place. There was no race, there was

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Speaker 2: no election going Okay, you did your part because this

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Speaker 2: is a new this is a new district in many ways,

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Speaker 2: and a lot of people are not aware of this

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Speaker 2: race going on. So I went on with Sean Hannity

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Speaker 2: last night. We've been talking about it like crazy on

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Speaker 2: this program. I feel like I have done everything I

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Speaker 2: can to help make people aware. This race is happening,

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Speaker 2: and today is the last day to go vote.

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Speaker 1: So you got to get out there and vote. We've

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Speaker 1: talked about the race, you've heard it, you know what's

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Speaker 1: going on, you know the issues here. Just gonna be

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Speaker 1: giving you reminders today during the show, because of course

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Speaker 1: we are live here for three hours with you. It's

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Speaker 1: a great time to be listening to Clay and Buck

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Speaker 1: on your way to go vote in that district. So

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Speaker 1: get out there and get it done, all right. Other things,

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Speaker 1: the drug vote controversy, and Venezuela, the Caribbean unusual for

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Speaker 1: it to be quite the scene of action that it

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Speaker 1: is now, but the Caribbean and Venezuela and the drug

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Speaker 1: trade are all very much in the headlines. Pete Hegset

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Speaker 1: the Secretary of War getting a lot of heat, a

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Speaker 1: lot of criticism, no surprise for these strikes, and there's

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Speaker 1: been some reporting that has now contested about a double tap,

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Speaker 1: if you will, on one of these boats. I think

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Speaker 1: was the first boat strike. Actually, we're gonna discuss some

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Speaker 1: of that and also the implications for Venezuela, where it

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Speaker 1: is now being said the President has given Maduro was

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Speaker 1: it to Friday Sorry Tuesday Friday deadline. Trump went on

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Speaker 1: a truth posting bonanza last night, posting truths to truth

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Speaker 1: social We will get into some of those. The cabinet

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Speaker 1: is meeting currently, will bring you the highlights of that.

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Speaker 1: The Trump Cabinet Caroline Levitt also had a fire repress

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Speaker 1: conference yesterday. We'll bring you some of the best moments

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Speaker 1: from that. Zora Mamdani is being a crazy commie. Tom

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Speaker 1: Homan is saying the Biden administration it wasn't bad enough

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Speaker 1: for them to let ten million illegals flood the country. Clay.

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Speaker 1: They also said, you know what, let's just take in

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Speaker 1: all these Afghans and not vet them at all. Basically,

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Speaker 1: you raise your hand and say, hey, I did great

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Speaker 1: things for America. You owe me. Okay, we'll take you. Hmm.

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Speaker 1: Not a good idea. Not a good idea. But let's

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Speaker 1: talk first about the drug boat situation here, Clay. Now

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Speaker 1: they're making a thing of this, and we've discussed this.

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Speaker 1: They really have wanted to take Secretary Hegseeth off of

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Speaker 1: the chess board from the very beginning. I think the

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Speaker 1: media has gone after Trump. Would would you co sign

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Speaker 1: this one? In term two, Pete has been targeted number

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Speaker 1: two after Trump. Trump's always target number one. I think

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Speaker 1: that's accurate.

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Speaker 2: I think Cash Patel has moved now number through the

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Speaker 2: number three spot on the attack list, and I think

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Speaker 2: we've kind of stayed in that range. I think there

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Speaker 2: would be probably a big off. I mean, Ewon obviously

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Speaker 2: was not in the cabinet, but he was probably the

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Speaker 2: most attacked in the first six months or so of Trump.

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Speaker 2: But in the cabinet, I think heg Seth's one. I

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Speaker 2: think that then Cash Bettel is two, and I would

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Speaker 2: you agree with me, there's a huge drop off after

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Speaker 2: those two. I don't even know who the third biggest

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Speaker 2: target would be. It's been like just kind of alternating

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Speaker 1: They have been trying to go after David Sachs as

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Speaker 1: well lately. The Crypto and Ais are who we would

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Speaker 1: like to get on this program soon to talk about

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Speaker 1: what he's doing. But he's a very savvy cat and

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Speaker 1: has been not only able to defend himself very effectively

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Speaker 1: without having to do very much because a lot of

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Speaker 1: the stuff that they're saying is just not true. Other

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Speaker 1: people have been coming to his defense as well, saying

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Speaker 1: he's in this position of he has so much money,

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Speaker 1: money has very little meeting for him. He actually thinks

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Speaker 1: that he's helping the country and that's why he's in

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Speaker 1: this special advisory role, special employee to the administration. But

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Speaker 1: we can get more into that too. But they wanted

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Speaker 1: they want hag Seth out. They want to be able

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Speaker 1: to show the Democrat base, Hey, we can still call

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Speaker 1: the shots in the media. We can still get a scalp,

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Speaker 1: so to speak. And so this is where we're talking about,

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Speaker 1: not just the boat strikes, which I'm going to tell

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Speaker 1: you right now, Clay. They're going to impeach Trump over

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Speaker 1: this if they win the House. All right, I do

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Speaker 1: you have any doubt whatsoever about that.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: They're going to be over this specifically, they're going to

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Speaker 2: impeach him, probably over whatever. I mean, they're going to

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Speaker 2: find something to impeach him over. We agree one hundred

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Speaker 2: percent that they will impeach him for a third time

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Speaker 2: for still impeach if they win the House.

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Speaker 1: I think this is I think this is top of

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Speaker 1: the list, and that's why they're so dug in on this.

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Speaker 1: I believe it. They're going to try to make the

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Speaker 1: case that that these are war crimes. That's exactly, and

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Speaker 1: they're already saying it, so it's that's not a stretch

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Speaker 1: at all. But they also want to use it to

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Speaker 1: it as a cudgel to force Secretary of warhag Seth

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Speaker 1: out of office. Here is I mean, for example, for example,

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Speaker 1: here is former Deputy Assistant ag This is cut eight. John,

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Speaker 1: wait before we play the cut. So the claim Clay,

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Speaker 1: so we're clear on this is that Pete, let's call

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Speaker 1: on Pete. Sometimes we know oversaw and was watching in

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Speaker 1: real time a strike on the first of these boats,

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Speaker 1: and that they hit the boat, you know, jaysack blew

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Speaker 1: of guys who were clinging to the wreckage. And then

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Speaker 1: the order that the affmative order was given to send

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Speaker 1: a second missile strike to kill the guys who were

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Speaker 1: clinging to the records. That's the claim. This is disputed.

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Speaker 1: Here is though, what it's being said by people in

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Speaker 1: the media now about this play eight.

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Speaker 4: If you look at the US Law of Warm Manual,

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Speaker 4: which is the definitive interpretation of the way we fight.

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Speaker 4: The laws of armed conflict for the United States, it

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Speaker 4: says clearly that you were not allowed to give orders

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Speaker 4: that say no survivors. Commanders are not allowed to give

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Speaker 4: ors say no quarter, and so Haggseth can't give that

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Speaker 4: command legally. Also, again, there are gray errors, but one

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Speaker 4: can't fire on the wounded. You can't kill survivors who

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Speaker 4: can no longer fight. So the admiral should not have

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Speaker 4: obeyed the order that Secretary Hegseth gave, and even the

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Speaker 4: soldiers who carried out the admiral's orders should not have obeyed.

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Speaker 1: Clay.

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Speaker 2: Lawyer Clay work us through this a bit, okay, So

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Speaker 2: Warrior Clay, let me first say, I obviously don't have

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Speaker 2: firsthand knowledge, but if I were making a case here,

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Speaker 2: there are several angles that I think would be in play.

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Speaker 2: Let me start with defending the decision. If this were

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Speaker 2: what happened from them, I think they can say this

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Speaker 2: wasn't a set can strike to kill survivors. The boat

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Speaker 2: was still operable, and we were concerned that we hadn't

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Speaker 2: fulfilled the original mission. Right, you can hit a boat

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Speaker 2: or a vehicle multiple times if you do not believe

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Speaker 2: you have actually rendered it to be anoperable. In other words,

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Speaker 2: I think there's probably a defense that, hey, the first

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Speaker 2: strike did not do the complete damage that was necessary.

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Speaker 2: We did a second strike on top of it. I

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Speaker 2: also think that there is potentially an issue here where

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Speaker 2: if there are prisoners taken, then there is going to

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Speaker 2: be a legal challenge to whether the president has the

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Speaker 2: authority to undertake these actions, and do we then have

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Speaker 2: an obligation to go rescue the survivors all these other

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Speaker 2: different things. I think that could be in play. But again,

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Speaker 2: what are the facts, what were the exact orders, What

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Speaker 2: was the intent of the order? Remember, there are all

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Speaker 2: sorts of issues out there where we have an attack

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Speaker 2: that is ordered and it's the wrong attack, right. We

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Speaker 2: talked about this on the program before. In Afghanistan, we

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Speaker 2: there are errors of interpretation that occur on these strikes too.

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Speaker 2: I think it's very hard to know direct intent right well,

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Speaker 2: we have to know the facts here. The facts are

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Speaker 2: has been established for a long time by the Obama

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Speaker 2: administration among others, but the Obama administration really accelerated it

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Speaker 2: was the signature drone strikes where they would hit a

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Speaker 2: target based upon a series of factors that were not

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent and clearly not because they did blow

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Speaker 2: up women and children sometimes. And this was going on

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Speaker 2: Oh no, we're not doing drone strikes there. That's classified.

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Speaker 1: The New York Times was writing front page stories about it,

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Speaker 1: but the Obama administration, clay to avoid dealing with it

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Speaker 1: We're we're not talking about that. That was accepted by

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Speaker 1: all of the people who currently are sitting around angry

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Speaker 1: for what's going on here. So we do know that

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Speaker 1: there are civilian casualties from strikes that are based on

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Speaker 1: presidential authority. That does happen, But as you pointed out,

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Speaker 1: it as accidental here, it would be to the point

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Speaker 1: made by John You. Now, John You, why do they

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Speaker 1: have John You making the rounds? Everybody? A little bit

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Speaker 1: of history if we all recall twenty years back or so,

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Speaker 1: So what you have now is the media having former

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Speaker 2: And again all of this comes in rising tension with Venezuela.

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Speaker 2: Bobby in Maine up first says he was in military intelligence.

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Speaker 6: So play and buck. Here's the bottom line. This is

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Speaker 6: there would be no finish off order. Hegseth was in

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Speaker 6: But here are the two facts people don't know. The

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Speaker 6: point number one, the law, they are well within the law.

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Speaker 1: So can I just say, I think that you're saying, sir,

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Speaker 6: So heagsas was a military officer. He knows very well

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Speaker 1: Out right, and I don't think he gave that order.

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Speaker 2: As we finished off the last hour, we were talking

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Speaker 6: I feel like you guys invited this, and so I'm

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Speaker 2: Oh we did, We did, all right. So Bobby, when

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Speaker 2: It can mean finish the survivors off. That seems like

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Speaker 2: We wanted to end the threat that this boat brought

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Speaker 6: We had cute intelligence. They refused to comply. They continued

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Speaker 6: Because it is doing that, you have every right to

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Speaker 6: They have big they have big firearms in a slang

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Speaker 6: It will say just what I said here, and that

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Speaker 6: and it's protecting the national security the United States and

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Speaker 6: every single American, including in dates like Maine where we

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Speaker 6: had ten thousand overdoses last year.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's a perfect argument. Why isn't the Trump administration

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Speaker 1: making that argument right now?

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Speaker 6: I'm guessing that as much as I'm a lawyer, I

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Speaker 6: hate lawyers. You know, if you're Irish, you get to

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Speaker 6: say words about the Irish, and I am that too.

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Speaker 6: If you're if you're a lawyer, you get to hate lawyers.

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Speaker 6: There's lawyers in the Pentagon going, hey, we can't release that.

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Speaker 6: That's a legal document. Hey we got to back off.

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Speaker 6: We can't we can't get the legal argument involved in politics. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: what what I think hegg says should do is just say, look,

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Speaker 6: I have every legal right to be doing what I'm doing.

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Speaker 2: That's what That's what I'm Heagset is not we know him,

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Speaker 2: he's not an attorney. But what I'm saying is I

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Speaker 2: would if I were Secretary of War hegg Set or

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Speaker 2: I was advising him, I would be telling him to

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Speaker 2: say exactly what you just told us right now at

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Speaker 2: the press conference, because I think it would end this

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Speaker 2: story instantaneously. Also, it's unfortunately that hasn't happened play and

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Speaker 2: so now they have the back and forth of different

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Speaker 2: versions of what happened and what was this and what

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Speaker 2: was that?

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Speaker 1: Why sure, that's my way, They're all Bobby, why wouldn't

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Speaker 1: he make that case? Well, because they screwed up, because

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Speaker 1: they've screwed up the comps, just like they screwed up

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Speaker 1: the I mean, I'm gonna jump in and just say

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Speaker 1: because they messed up, because this is where we are

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Speaker 1: right now, just like they did.

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Speaker 6: You know, the truth is, your point is well taken.

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Speaker 6: You take the world as it is. What has transpired

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Speaker 6: up to this moment in time has the future is

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Speaker 6: for us to define. They should do the press conference.

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Speaker 6: Take it verbatim what I said, that's the truth. I

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Speaker 6: don't know the exact wording of the legal memo, but

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Speaker 6: I guarantee before they took one shot, there is a

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Speaker 6: legal memo there. They should release it. They should say,

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Speaker 6: we have every right to have done what we did.

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Speaker 6: Let's clarify the record and the facts of the facts.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, I think we're all we're all aligned on this.

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Speaker 2: I just want to be clear, Bobby, because there are

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Speaker 2: people out there who are saying, oh no, when I

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Speaker 2: say people, I mean online You'll see people who don't

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Speaker 2: know anything who are saying the clinging to the wreckuge

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Speaker 2: we could mow them down. To you, No, that's not true.

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Speaker 2: But what you've laid out is the legal justification for

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Speaker 2: what we believe happened here, which we're all aligned with.

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Speaker 2: But I just want to be very clear because I

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Speaker 2: have seen the argument made by people with followings and

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Speaker 2: buy people who are part of this conversation. If we

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Speaker 2: have to finish off people in the water, so be it.

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Speaker 1: No, that's actually not that's actually not how this goes

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Speaker 1: And that's not what was what was going on here.

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Speaker 6: You're absolutely right. And in World War Two there were

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Speaker 6: bad mistakes made on both sides. This is one where

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Speaker 6: we don't have to make a mistake. That would be

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Speaker 6: a mistake. We're not gonna do it. I'm gonna tell

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Speaker 6: you though, as a guy running for governor in Maine,

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Speaker 6: and I'm up by double digits on everybody. But the

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Speaker 6: reality is, right now, people throw crap at you that

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Speaker 6: is untrue every day and you just have to keep responding.

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Speaker 6: And that's what hegseth I suspect will do. And that's

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Speaker 6: what Trump does every day. And that's what you got

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Speaker 6: to do. You beat you know, it's like the old

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Speaker 6: Supreme Court case said, right, you beat bad speech with

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Speaker 6: good speech.

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Speaker 1: You just keep going, Bobby, We're leveraging your expertise here

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Speaker 1: a lot. But I actually want to transition you because

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Speaker 1: you said you transition the topic.

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Speaker 7: I should.

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Speaker 1: I should. Yeah, I'm going to transition the topic. Dude. Hey,

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Speaker 1: got to be clear these days to you said you

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Speaker 1: oversaw or involved in overseeing NARK programs in the Caribbean. One,

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Speaker 1: how effective you think taking out these boats is actually?

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Speaker 1: And two talk to us about Venezuela. You would have

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Speaker 1: a very important perspective on what's going on there with Maduro,

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Speaker 1: the narco trafficking, the possibility of the overthrow. Talk us

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Speaker 1: through some of that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So I have had multiple hats in life, blessed

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Speaker 6: a thousand ways from Sunday. But the reality is, yes,

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Speaker 6: I did oversight for five years for Gingrich. I was

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Speaker 6: his top oversight investigator looking at counter narcotics, but also

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Speaker 6: the Pentagon Justice I did to Waco hearings all that.

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Speaker 6: So at the end of the day, our counternarcotics policy

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Speaker 6: in the Caribbean was effective when we could create twenty

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Speaker 6: five percent deterrence. So when we could cover twenty five

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Speaker 6: percent of the Caribbean at a time, incidentally, when there

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Speaker 6: was no land bridge, as in there was no coming

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Speaker 6: up through the Mexico Pan American Highway, what we did

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Speaker 6: is we shut down the Caribbean by shutting down twenty

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Speaker 6: five percent, creating enough uncertainty that the traffickers thought they

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Speaker 6: would get more losses than it was worth. They shifted

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Speaker 6: to the land bridge. What they will do right now,

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Speaker 6: it is relatively effective because it's creating that one thing

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Speaker 6: we know again, let's go back to World War Two.

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Speaker 6: Everything is about deterrence versus appeasement. You do nothing, you

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Speaker 6: appease it. Same thing with people coming into this country.

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Speaker 6: You do nothing, you appease the behavior, appease bad behavior,

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Speaker 6: you deter it. All of a sudden, they're gonna stop coming.

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Speaker 6: All of a sudden, they're gonna stop shipping drugs through

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Speaker 6: the EPACH Eastern Pacific, which is where some of this

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Speaker 6: is happening, or through the Caribbean, and so deterrence works.

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Speaker 6: It absolutely works. But you always have to remember it's

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Speaker 6: like trying to block a water that is being pulled

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Speaker 6: by gravity down. It's going to look for another way around.

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Speaker 6: The bad guys always look for another way around. So

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Speaker 6: you've got to constantly be one step ahead. You know,

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Speaker 6: we don't ever win anything finally and decisively. You know.

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Speaker 6: You what you do is you you manage the process

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Speaker 6: so that you're always one step ahead. That's why we've

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Speaker 6: not had another nine to eleven. We've always stayed one

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Speaker 6: step ahead. Same thing is true with the drug traffickers.

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Speaker 6: What I love that he's doing, what Trump is doing,

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Speaker 6: is he's calling a spade a spade. He's saying we

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Speaker 6: lose more people every year to this foreign drug infusion,

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Speaker 6: this chemical weapon brought into this country than we lost

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Speaker 6: in all of Vietnam. We lose one hundred thousand more

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Speaker 6: or less every year to this. They are a threat

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Speaker 6: to the United States. We are going to treat them

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Speaker 6: as ftos. We are going to combat them. And so ultimately,

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Speaker 6: what you do is you start to destroy the industrial

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Speaker 6: strength of the cartel. There are Colombian cartels, there are

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Speaker 6: Mexican cartels, and you want You're never going to get

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Speaker 6: rid of all crime, but what you want to do

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Speaker 6: is drive it down to a level that's so low

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Speaker 6: that most people don't have to engage it. And here

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Speaker 6: in the state of Maine, I will tell you I

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Speaker 6: am going to thoroughly support law enforcement. I am going

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Speaker 6: to thoroughly stop these foreign drug traffickers from getting in

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Speaker 6: here and then, having created deterrence, I'm going to do

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Speaker 6: put the rest of the population that's addicted on a

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Speaker 6: get well, staywell plan, get real treatment programs in here,

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Speaker 6: and solve it. That is what Trump is doing in

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Speaker 6: all the places that he's been allowed to do it.

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Speaker 6: And by the way, I will mobilize the National Guard too.

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Speaker 6: If to support law enforcements.

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Speaker 1: Bobby, thanks for all of this. I mean, this is

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Speaker 1: well said. You got my vote. You got to be

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Speaker 1: the next governor, remain buddy, so you got to come

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Speaker 1: back and talk to us more about this. We're very

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Speaker 1: impressed here.

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Speaker 6: Thank you. Guys. Call me anytime, and I love talking

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Speaker 6: to Greg. So we're good to go, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, producer, Greg is the man, so you have good

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Speaker 1: taste in radio and radio producers. Well done, sir, and

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Speaker 1: we'll talk to you again, Sue. But Clay, I just

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Speaker 1: want to say our legal analysis was all spot on,

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Speaker 1: so there's that you know before.

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Speaker 2: And also again, I think we hit on this correctly.

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Speaker 2: It's a communication issue and I just I understand, and

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Speaker 2: he pointed out lawyers can sometimes say, well, we can't

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Speaker 2: talk about this publicly. Yet, Sir, I would talk about

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Speaker 2: it publicly if I repeat Hegseth, I would put this

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Speaker 2: story to Bed. I would say that this was the goal.

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Speaker 2: We had the authority to do it, and it vanishes

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Speaker 2: if you tell the story the way that he just did.

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Speaker 1: It's a version of it's not the crime, it's the

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Speaker 1: cover up. There was no crime here. There are are

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Speaker 1: acting in the lawful authority. But if you have differing

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Speaker 1: narratives about what happened, even if it's in good faith.

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Speaker 1: But there's daylight between what the you know, Trump White

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Speaker 1: House says and what Secretary Hegseth says or whatever, then

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Speaker 1: that becomes the story and they just say, see they're hiding,

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Speaker 1: they're changing the So you just it's a comms issue

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Speaker 1: to be very clear on this, so that everybody understands.

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Speaker 1: Because what the Democrats that their biggest story this week

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Speaker 1: is the you know, the war crimes thing. What they

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Speaker 1: don't want to be talking about is the Biden Afghan

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Speaker 1: withdrawal slash importing people with no vetting whatsoever, including the

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Speaker 1: terrorists who just killed two, killed one and grievously wounded

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Speaker 1: another National Guard member. That's what they don't want to

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Speaker 1: be talking about this week.

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Speaker 2: Correct, And you can limit their ability to drive the

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Speaker 2: narrative by telling your story in the best, most effective

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Speaker 2: way possible. And I don't think that has occurred yet,

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Speaker 2: But I think if they said what Bobby said, what

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Speaker 2: I said, what you have said, I think it would

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Speaker 2: I want to tell you fighting in Ukraine, we'll talk

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Speaker 2: about this a little bit there. Right now are meetings

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Speaker 1: Buck.

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Speaker 2: For the entirety of our radio show, we are competing

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Speaker 2: with the Trump Show head to head.

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Speaker 1: It's another radio show, Clinn, That's really what it is.

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Speaker 2: Trump has been doing over two hours straight along with

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Speaker 2: his cabinet, taking questions, and it does feel to some

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Speaker 2: extent Buck like this is a response to The New

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Speaker 2: York Times saying that he doesn't have the vitality and

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Speaker 2: the vigor that he used.

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Speaker 1: To maybe I'm wrong on this, But then a couple of.

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Speaker 2: Days later, he's like, all right, let's just do a

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Speaker 2: three hour potentially press conference that Fox News has been

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Speaker 2: carrying straight through and even CNN now has elected to

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Speaker 2: go live to Trump. So we're continuing to monitor that.

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Speaker 2: I just sent a couple of clips to producer Greg

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Speaker 2: as Hegseth has weighed in more on the on the

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Speaker 2: boat strike off Venezuela, which evidently Buck happened September second,

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Speaker 2: So this was one of the earliest strikes that occurred

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Speaker 2: on the votes. I do think that matters here. I

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Speaker 2: don't know that we've given a date, but he did

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Speaker 2: in his answer, which we will have soon.

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Speaker 1: Vote Go vote, Go vote.

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Speaker 2: If you are in the seventh Congression congressional district in

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Speaker 2: the state of Tennessee, it is election day.

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Speaker 1: I went this morning.

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Speaker 2: I took my fifth grader to school, I dropped him off,

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Speaker 2: and then I went into the polling place right there

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Speaker 2: at his school. My wife is working all day at

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Speaker 2: as a volunteer at this local polling center. I think

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Speaker 2: I mentioned this before Buck, but you know Laura quite well.

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Speaker 2: She was really fired up at the overall security issues

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Speaker 2: associated with elections, and so she said, well, heck, I

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Speaker 2: want to see this for myself. So she decided that

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Speaker 2: she would volunteer and watch as the election is taking

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Speaker 2: place here locally. By the way, President Trump standing up

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Speaker 2: right now, we are no longer competing with the Trump Show.

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Speaker 2: He has just walked out after a marathon two plus

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Speaker 2: hour session with his cabinet, and it is just now

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Speaker 2: breaking up in real time. All right, this is funny,

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Speaker 2: Marco Rubio, Secretary of State, Buck. There are many different,

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Speaker 2: super serious stories that are going on, but you know,

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Speaker 2: I trust college football fans.

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Speaker 1: Implicitly.

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Speaker 2: In addition to everything else that was discussed, Marco Rubio

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Speaker 2: came out and said, if the Miami Hurricanes your new

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Speaker 2: hometown team, Buck, if they're not in the playoff, he's

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Speaker 2: furious and he's gonna put President Trump in charge of

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Speaker 2: next year's playoff. This is funny. This did just happen,

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Speaker 2: among many other things in the cabinet meeting. Listen to this.

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Speaker 1: To be fast, but it was allowed to cover.

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Speaker 8: I do want to say, this is the most wonderful,

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Speaker 8: magical time of the year. By that, of course, I'm

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Speaker 8: referring to the college football playoffs. I just want to

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Speaker 8: say this as a point of personal privilege. If if

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Speaker 8: and I'm on Florida Gator but at the University of

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Speaker 8: Miami gets screwed out of the college with the football

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Speaker 8: playoffs after going ten and two and being a notre dame,

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Speaker 8: the whole thing should be scrapped and you're gonna.

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Speaker 1: Have to take over it next year, Marco Vetter, watch out.

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Speaker 1: He could get another job. Maybe he becomes like SEC

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Speaker 1: commissioner or something. In addition to I think key Secretary

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Speaker 1: of State, National Security Advisor, USAID director. The Marco portfolio

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Speaker 1: is a remarkable thing to behold. Your wife is a

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Speaker 1: Florida Gator grad. Marco Rubio's son is a football player

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Speaker 1: for the Florida Gators.

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Speaker 2: So I was actually texting with him over the weekend,

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Speaker 2: nothing at all to do with serious things, just about

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Speaker 2: the college football coaching searches going on on. Marco Rubio

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Speaker 2: is doing a fantastic job, but so many different topics.

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Speaker 2: I did think it was funny that he decided that

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Speaker 2: he wanted to weigh in on that because Marco Rubio

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Speaker 2: is a Miami guy, big college football fan, which is

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Speaker 2: one reason we get along so well. Do we have

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Speaker 2: from producer Greg Yet the clip that I sent in

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Speaker 2: of heg Seth giving more details, it's not in yet, Buck, Okay,

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Speaker 2: we will have This is the lead story now for

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Speaker 2: people out there who are saying, what are you doing here?

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Speaker 2: Why are you talking about this? The lead story everywhere,

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Speaker 2: we want to make sure that we're addressing it well. CNN, MSNBC,

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Speaker 2: and Fox News basically all covering this as the top

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Speaker 2: news story of the day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, because the implications of this, first of all,

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Speaker 1: aren't just about the attempts to undermine an attack Hegseth

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Speaker 1: and with him this administration. There's also this issue of

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Speaker 1: what this does to Venezuela, and increasingly we have what

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Speaker 1: seems to be a de facto regime change policy in place. Now.

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Speaker 1: Regime change in nation building are not necessarily things that

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Speaker 1: go hand in hand, but they often do, and so

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Speaker 1: this is going to start to bring up some very

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Speaker 1: important and difficult conversations. I think if Maduro goes but

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Speaker 1: here we have Secretary hegst just moments ago getting into

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Speaker 1: the details of this strike that has been widely reported

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Speaker 1: on Let's listen to the Secretary of War.

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Speaker 3: I didn't stick around for the hour and two hours

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Speaker 3: whatever where all the sensitive side exploitation digitally occurs.

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Speaker 1: So I moved on to my next meeting.

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Speaker 9: A couple of hours later, I learned that that commander

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Speaker 9: had made the which he had the complete authority to do.

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Speaker 10: And by the way, Edward Ready made the correct decision

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Speaker 10: to ultimately sink the boat and eliminate the threat. He

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Speaker 10: sunk the boat, sunk the boat and eliminated the threat,

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Speaker 10: and he was the right call.

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Speaker 3: We have his back, and the American people are sick

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Speaker 3: because narco terrorists. No, you can't bring drugs through the

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Speaker 3: water and eventually on land if necessary, I have to

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Speaker 3: do to the American people. We will eliminate that threat,

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Speaker 3: and we're proud to do it.

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Speaker 1: So you didn't see any survivors, to be clear, after.

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Speaker 9: The first run, first I did not personally see survivors,

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Speaker 9: but I stand because the thing was on fire, that

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Speaker 9: was exploded. In fire and smoke, you can't see anything

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Speaker 9: you got digital.

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Speaker 1: There's this is called the fog of war. This is

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Speaker 1: what you and the press don't understand.

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Speaker 3: You sit in your conditioned offices or up on Capitol

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Speaker 3: Hill and you nit pick.

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Speaker 9: And you plant fake stories in the Washington post about

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Speaker 9: kill everybody, phrases on anonymous sources, not based in anything,

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Speaker 9: not based.

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Speaker 3: In any truth at all, And then you want to throw.

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Speaker 11: Up really irresponsible terms about American heroes, about the judgment

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Speaker 11: that they've made. I wrote whole book on this topic

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Speaker 11: because of what politicians and the press does to war fighters.

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Speaker 11: President Trump has empowered commanders, commanders to do what is necessary,

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Speaker 11: which is dark and difficult thing the dead of night

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Speaker 11: on half of the American people.

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Speaker 1: We support them, and we will stop the poisoning of

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Speaker 1: the American people. Okay, that's a better answer.

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Speaker 2: I still think, and this is the lawyer in me, buck,

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Speaker 2: I want a clear, concise, direct description of what the

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Speaker 2: admiral did. And it may be the case that they

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Speaker 2: haven't talked in detail about this decision, but that's that

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Speaker 2: would help to end.

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Speaker 1: This story, I believe, once and for all. It's hard

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Speaker 1: to sound objective talking about Pete because you and I

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Speaker 1: both know Pete and or we're personally friends with Pete.

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Speaker 1: I've known Pete now for almost fifteen years. So I

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Speaker 1: just I say that because I think we need to

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Speaker 1: be honest about where we come from, especially talking with

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Speaker 1: some of these public figures we know on a personal level,

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Speaker 1: and I know Pete loves the country, and I know

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Speaker 1: he loves the war fighters in the United States military

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Speaker 1: like his own family, and so I bring all of

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Speaker 1: that to this discussion too, all right. That said, I

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Speaker 1: think that the problem that he's running into here a

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Speaker 1: little bit clay is when you start to say things again,

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at this like the enemy here in the media,

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Speaker 1: which he's addressing very clearly. He's saying, you guys are

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Speaker 1: a bunch of jerks that don't understand anything. But when

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Speaker 1: he says things like fog of war, that they're going

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Speaker 1: to take that now and say so you don't know

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Speaker 1: if there were survivors or not, that's what they're that's

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Speaker 1: the next stage.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 1: I think in this process it went from the order

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Speaker 1: to kill survivors to now you're saying fog of war again.

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Speaker 1: I understand from the very beginnings, you know need to

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Speaker 1: call in and say what he did is totally lawful.

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Speaker 1: I believe that Pete Hegseth and the jaysok here joined

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Speaker 1: Special Operations Command. I think they operated in a lawful fashion.

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Speaker 1: I am just saying the way this is turning into

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Speaker 1: a story is leaving bits of daylight here with the

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Speaker 1: facts as presented, the narrative as constructed from the top

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Speaker 1: of the of the Pentagon hierarchy. And when you say

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Speaker 1: things like, you know, fog of war, I get it.

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Speaker 1: I know what he's saying. But they're going to say,

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Speaker 1: so you don't even know if there were you know,

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Speaker 1: there was smoke. You know, there could have been survivors.

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Speaker 1: You know, this is the next this is the next

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Speaker 1: phase of it, I think totally. And this is why

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Speaker 1: I say, and this is me speaking as a former

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Speaker 1: criminal defense attorney.

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Speaker 2: Your story has to be consistent, and you have to

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Speaker 2: stick to it, and you have to put it out there,

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Speaker 2: and it has to be ironclad in terms of you

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Speaker 2: being able to prove what.

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Speaker 1: Exactly it is.

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Speaker 2: And I just think the story of we had to

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Speaker 2: hit the boat a second time because it had not

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Speaker 2: been completely obliterated and there were still drugs there, and

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Speaker 2: they could have brought another boat in and gotten those

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Speaker 2: drugs off, and they could have still come to the

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Speaker 2: United States. The purpose of the mission was to ensure

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Speaker 2: that that boat is completely obliterated and that there are

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Speaker 2: no drugs that survived the attack. The first attack. It

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Speaker 2: did we put in a second one. That's what happened.

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Speaker 2: I don't know anything about the people that were on

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Speaker 2: the boat. Frankly, I don't care about them, because they

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Speaker 2: were terrorist trying to kill people in the United States.

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Speaker 2: They may have survived, they may not have, but I

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Speaker 2: know that boat didn't and the drugs are going. That's

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Speaker 2: my answer. That's a pretty good one. I wish it

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Speaker 2: had been given. Yeah, I stop the threat. This is

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Speaker 2: a threat that's identified, a threat that we can lawfully

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Speaker 2: use the United States military to address. And Secretary of

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Speaker 2: War heeg Seth and those below him in the chain

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Speaker 2: of command who were directly involved in the strike, they

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Speaker 2: were operating to stop the threat against the American people.

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Speaker 2: And if two missiles is what it required to stop

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Speaker 2: the threat, then that is what it required. But this

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Speaker 2: is why, again, you know, the specificity of the same thing.

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Speaker 2: In a self defense case, if somebody came at me,

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Speaker 2: Clay in my own home, which would be a very

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Speaker 2: bad idea because I do have a lot of guns

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Speaker 2: here and I am pretty trained up these days. But

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Speaker 2: if somebody came at me in my own home and

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Speaker 2: I put one in him, and then they say, well,

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Speaker 2: why did you, why did you actually unload your whole

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Speaker 2: magazine into this person who was coming at you, let's

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Speaker 2: say with a knife or something. I would say because

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Speaker 2: in the moment, that's what I believe to stop the

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Speaker 2: threat against my life, that's the answer. Yes, right, it

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Speaker 2: doesn't whether it's one bullet or ten bullets. I acted

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Speaker 2: to stop the threat against me and my family. What

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Speaker 2: you don't want to get into is, well, I hit.

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Speaker 1: Him five times, but then I thought, you know what,

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Speaker 1: I got to get some headshots in here to make

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Speaker 1: sure he's not moving anymore. You don't want to, in

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Speaker 1: a self defense situation say anything like that. This is

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Speaker 1: those of you. You don't have to know law of

870
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Speaker 1: war necessarily to understand how this. When you're talking about

871
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Speaker 1: use of force, you've got to be very specific about

872
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Speaker 1: why you're using that force. And I've sat through the classes.

873
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Speaker 1: I've sat through the discussion we had this in the CIA.

874
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Speaker 1: We had to have conversations about lethal force. Right, This

875
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Speaker 1: is you have to understand what the framework is. We're

876
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Speaker 1: using violence against another human being.

877
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Speaker 2: Always, the threat wasn't eliminated with the first strike, so

878
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 2: we had to have a second strike to eliminate the threat.

879
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,439
Speaker 2: This is not very complicated. But again, when they start

880
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 2: nitpicking at you, I appreciate the fact that Pete recognizes

881
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 2: he's the target here. Somebody, I think this is important,

882
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 2: leaked probably very classified information to a large extent to

883
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Speaker 2: the Washington Post, which may or may not be accurate.

884
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:29,919
Speaker 2: But somebody obviously has Pete as the target here. They're

885
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Speaker 2: attempting to come after him, the admiral and the president.

886
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 2: I mean, their intent here matters, and so again I

887
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 2: think you have to eliminate this story to the best

888
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 2: of your ability. You know what happened over the weekend, Buck,

889
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 2: I was watching games my sister, My sister Lisa, she's awesome,

890
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Speaker 2: sat down on the couch. He's watching the games. She

891
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Speaker 2: had There was a cozy Earth blanket on the couch.

892
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Speaker 2: This is one hundred percent true. I didn't even know this.

893
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Speaker 2: She got the cozy Earth blanket a little bit and Florida.

894
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Speaker 2: She put the blanket over her. She didn't even know

895
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Speaker 2: that we had a code. She went got her phone.

896
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Speaker 2: The blanket was so comfortable and she ordered one for

897
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Speaker 2: my mom.

898
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Speaker 1: And for her.

899
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Speaker 2: That's how comfortable this blanket was. It's one hundred percent true.

900
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Speaker 2: I said, did you use a code. She said, I

901
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,720
Speaker 2: didn't even know there was gonna say. I love this story,

902
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Speaker 2: except we don't get credit for the sale of blanket.

903
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Speaker 1: But that's okay. We're going to sell a lot more

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Speaker 1: blankets now because that's how amazing they are. I said,

905
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Speaker 1: you use the code, right, She said, I didn't know

906
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Speaker 1: there was a code. Thanks for Lisa listening Lisa. But

907
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Speaker 1: that's how comfortable this blanket was. I'm not even kidding

908
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Speaker 1: about this. She sat down on the couch a little

909
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Speaker 1: bit chilly. She puts the blanket over her. Within twenty

910
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Speaker 1: minutes she got on. She was like, she asked my wife, like,

911
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Speaker 1: what where is this Cozy Earth? She got on.

912
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Speaker 2: She bought her own. It's pretty incredible. Think about how

913
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Speaker 2: busy the holiday season is. Every Cozy Earth product is fantastic.

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Speaker 2: They're the perfect combination of luxury, comfort, relaxation. In fact,

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Speaker 2: you know what I was doing last night watching Stranger

916
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Speaker 2: Things season five with my boys, and guess what I

917
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Speaker 2: was covered up with Cozy Earth blanket A little bit chilly.

918
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Speaker 1: And Tennessee right now is in the thirties.

919
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Speaker 2: Last night, it's very cold for us, and I was like,

920
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be watching Stranger things five. I need these

921
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Speaker 2: awesome covers, these blankets that feel so phenomenal to have

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Speaker 2: them on, and right now you can get a ten

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Speaker 2: holiday season. Head to cozyearth dot com. Use my code

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Speaker 2: Clay for up to forty percent off. Make sure to

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Speaker 2: Don't be like my sister. Remember to use the code Clay.

931
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Speaker 2: She then went back and bought more, and she used

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Speaker 2: code Clay. By the way, cozyearth dot com Code Clay

933
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Speaker 2: that Cozy earth dot com Code Clay.

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Speaker 5: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton mic drops that never sounded

935
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Speaker 5: so good. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or

936
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Speaker 5: wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 2: Clay Travis with the Clay and Buck Show, wishing you

938
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Speaker 2: and your family a very merry Christmas and a happy

939
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Speaker 2: New Year.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in here, everybody. We are joined by Senator

941
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Speaker 1: Marcia Blackburn. Senator Blackburn, always appreciate you being with us

942
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Speaker 1: and it.

943
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Speaker 7: Is always so good to join you. Thank you so much.

944
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Speaker 1: First off, can you just speak to some politics going

945
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Speaker 1: on in your home state, the seventh Congressional district. You

946
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: got a looney leftist trying to sneak a congressional seed

947
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Speaker 1: in what is not just a red area of the

948
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Speaker 1: wonderful state of Tennessee, Senator Blackburn, but also Clay's backyard,

949
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Speaker 1: like I think his yard is in fact considered part

950
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Speaker 1: of the district. What can you tell us about this

951
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Speaker 1: this race today?

952
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Speaker 7: Well, indeed, and we need everybody to get out and vote,

953
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Speaker 7: that is for sure. And these off year special elections, uh,

954
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 7: sometimes they get a little funky on you. And what

955
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Speaker 7: you have are Democrats that are very excited. They saw

956
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Speaker 7: what they thought were big victories in blue areas and

957
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 7: so now they're trying to California Tennessee and are putting

958
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 7: a lot of energy in that today. But Matt Van

959
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 7: Epps is a good, solid candidate. He is going to win.

960
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 7: He is going to be an outstanding member of the

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Speaker 7: US House. He has wonderful experience and a record of service,

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Speaker 7: a good solid record of service for the people of

963
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Speaker 7: Tennessee and for this nation, his military service, his business expertise,

964
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Speaker 7: the way he served Governor Lee in his cabinet, and

965
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Speaker 7: I know that Matt is going to bring that fighting

966
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Speaker 7: spirit to work on the issues of cost of living

967
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Speaker 7: and access to affordable health care and really getting the

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Speaker 7: country back on track. You know, Joe Biden and the

969
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 7: Democrats raised taxes, they ran up the cost of health care.

970
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Speaker 7: Inflation was at nine point one percent, and President Trump

971
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Speaker 7: and Republicans are trying to get everything back on track.

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Speaker 7: Matt Vanipps is going to do a good job doing that,

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Speaker 7: and the people of Tennessee support President Trump and his agenda.

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Speaker 2: We're talking to Senator Marshall Blackburn. She is also running

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Speaker 2: for governor of Tennessee. She's telling all of you to

976
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Speaker 2: get out in the seventh Congressional district all the way

977
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Speaker 2: from Fort Campbell up on the border with Kentucky, all

978
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Speaker 2: the way down south with Alabama, Nashville, included part of

979
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Speaker 2: Dave County, Franklin, Williamson County, Brentwood, all points in between.

980
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Speaker 2: You also are a mom and a grandma, and you

981
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 2: have a USA Today editorial piece of the up about

982
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Speaker 2: the lack of protection for young people online. And I

983
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 2: know in social media era there's a lot of mom's, dads, grandma's,

984
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 2: grandpa's out there that are deeply concerned about this. What

985
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 2: have you uncovered? What do people need to know and

986
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 2: what should happen going forward?

987
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 7: Yes, and up ED is at time dot Com and

988
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 7: this is work that we have done on the Kids

989
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:40,800
Speaker 7: Online Safety Act. And I was just on the phone

990
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 7: talking with a house colleague, Katchemick, out of Florida, and

991
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,919
Speaker 7: she and I have several of these bills together. Look,

992
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 7: big tech uses our children as a cash cow, and

993
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:57,479
Speaker 7: when kids are online, they are the product. And we've

994
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 7: been trying to pass legislation that would protect children in

995
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Speaker 7: the virtual space, just as we have laws in the

996
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Speaker 7: physical space that says, you can't sell alcohol and tobacco

997
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:15,760
Speaker 7: to kids, you can't expose them to pornography, you can't

998
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 7: endangered children, you can't force children into contracts, you can't

999
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:25,839
Speaker 7: traffic children, you can't groom children. All of this there

1000
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 7: are laws, but it happens in the virtual space twenty

1001
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,919
Speaker 7: four hours a day, seven days a week. And when

1002
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 7: you look at these apps that are catering to children,

1003
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 7: when you look at these platforms catering to children, and

1004
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 7: you know that big Tech is trying to get these

1005
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 7: kids on their site and they want them to doom

1006
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 7: scroll for hours on end. And then you talk to

1007
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 7: parents and teachers and preachers and pediatricians and you hear

1008
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 7: that addiction to these screens is one of the biggest

1009
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 7: problems they have. When it comes to cyberbullying and behavioral

1010
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:11,720
Speaker 7: issues in schools, most of its start in the virtual space.

1011
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:17,840
Speaker 7: When kids meet a drug dealer, a pedophile, a trafficker,

1012
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 7: a groomer, generally it is in the virtual space, and

1013
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 7: we need to put these protections in place for our

1014
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 7: children in the virtual space, just as they exist in

1015
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Speaker 7: the physical space.

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Speaker 1: We're speaking to Senator Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee. Senator. The

1017
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Speaker 1: terrible terrorist attack that occurred just before the Thanksgiving holiday

1018
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: took the life of a National Guard member of the

1019
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 1: National Guard and almost took another life has got people

1020
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 1: focused in here on how could something like this happen,

1021
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: How was the vetting or really what was the lack

1022
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 1: of vetting like to bring in many of these Afghans

1023
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 1: during the Biden withdrawal. I wanted you to speak to

1024
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 1: that and give us a census to what do you

1025
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 1: think the Trump administration is going to be able to

1026
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Speaker 1: or should do. Now that there's a recognition that there

1027
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Speaker 1: was insufficient vetting for many, perhaps most, of the Afghans

1028
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Speaker 1: who were brought here during the Biden.

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Speaker 7: Withdrawal, and actually the Inspector General's report from twenty twenty

1030
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Speaker 7: two with the Apartment of Homeland Security noted there was

1031
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 7: insufficient vetting, and the response from the Biden administration was

1032
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Speaker 7: they were going to go back and do this vetting.

1033
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Speaker 7: Obviously they did not, And now what the Trump administration

1034
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Speaker 7: is discussing doing is halting immigration while they'd catch up

1035
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Speaker 7: and make certain that they have vetted all these individuals,

1036
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Speaker 7: whether they came in through the Afghan Welcome program that

1037
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Speaker 7: Biden had in place, or it is people that are

1038
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Speaker 7: in the system that illegally were in the country, or

1039
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Speaker 7: people that were here legally on a visa and have

1040
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Speaker 7: overstayed their visa. You're going to see this administration, in

1041
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 7: this Department of Homeland Security and the Department of State

1042
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 7: circle back and actually clean up some of these and

1043
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:29,399
Speaker 7: if someone needs to go, they will be issued an

1044
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Speaker 7: order of deportation and then deported and removed from the country.

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Speaker 2: I don't think we've asked you about this, but I

1046
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 2: asked you about it in person the last time I

1047
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 2: saw you, and I want to make sure we hit it.

1048
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Speaker 2: I think it's a pretty extraordinary, unbelievable story that at

1049
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 2: least eight United States Senators, including you, had your phones

1050
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Speaker 2: tapped as part of an investigation. I know that you

1051
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 2: guys are continuing to follow up on that.

1052
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Speaker 1: Can you tell our audience what happened in there? Why?

1053
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 2: Obviously it's significant and should never happen again, and what

1054
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:08,399
Speaker 2: is going to happen as a result. Where is that

1055
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 2: story for people who don't know very much about it

1056
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 2: or haven't been paying attention.

1057
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Speaker 7: Yes, and the story is continuing to unfold as we're

1058
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 7: getting more documents and hearing more from whistleblowers. And I

1059
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 7: think it's tomorrow we have Judge Bosberg who is going

1060
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Speaker 7: to come before us. He is the one who issued

1061
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Speaker 7: as many as one hundred and ninety seven a subpoenas

1062
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Speaker 7: for information on our phones, and on top of those

1063
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Speaker 7: subpoena as he put a non disclosure order, which meant

1064
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Speaker 7: that the wireless companies could not tell us that they

1065
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 7: had a subpoena for our phone records. Now, we were

1066
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Speaker 7: targeted from what we have learned, because we were all

1067
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:04,839
Speaker 7: republic we all support President Trump, and we each of

1068
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 7: us had questions about the twenty twenty election. Now, the

1069
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:14,399
Speaker 7: reason we're continuing to dig on this and to get

1070
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Speaker 7: information is because if they were going after phone records,

1071
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Speaker 7: there is no doubt and we have reason to believe

1072
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Speaker 7: that they went after other information. Where are they going

1073
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 7: after the content of those contacts? Because what they did

1074
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Speaker 7: was to get every phone call I made or received

1075
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Speaker 7: and the location where I was when I made or

1076
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Speaker 7: received that call, and who that call was made to

1077
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Speaker 7: or received from. And it started on January first of

1078
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Speaker 7: twenty one with me, and it was a pure spying effort.

1079
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Speaker 7: It was a your phishing expedition. But we also want

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Speaker 7: to know did they get the content of emails? Did

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Speaker 7: they get the content of text messages? Was there any

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Speaker 7: wire tapping in real time that they did? Did they

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00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:24,439
Speaker 7: surveil and investigate people that we were in contact with,

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Speaker 7: What was the extent of that surveillance. Did they go

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Speaker 7: after financial documents and other information about us? So we

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Speaker 7: are trying to get to the bottom of us that

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Speaker 7: I think each of the eight of us want to

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Speaker 7: know the extent of this, and I will tell you this.

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Speaker 7: We want to know what they've done to other conservatives.

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Speaker 7: They know there were one hundred and ninety seven subpoenas

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Speaker 7: issued against four hundred and thirty individuals conservatives, and it

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Speaker 7: was organizations and individuals in that mix, Citizens, Unine and

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Speaker 7: a turning point USA, different organizations. What they were after.

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Speaker 7: We know they got financial documents on some of those,

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Speaker 7: but we want to see that. We want to make

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Speaker 7: certain this never happens again, and conservatives have to be protected.

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Speaker 7: And of course, in this case, because you have some

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Speaker 7: whistleblowers over at DOJ, that we're aware of this. They

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Speaker 7: brought the information to Senator Grassly and that is how

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00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 7: we've been able to find out as much as we

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00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 7: have gotten so far. But what they did to conservatives

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Speaker 7: in the extent of it. Jack Smith, who ran Arctic Frost,

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00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 7: needs to be held to account. I think he ought

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Speaker 7: to be in jail. That we need to hold everyone

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Speaker 7: to account. I have written a letter that calls for

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Speaker 7: the Office of Professional Conduct at the Department of Justice

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Speaker 7: to look into his actions. He should be disbarred. We

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Speaker 7: also have written a letter to the DC bar about

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Speaker 7: his conduct and what the actions that he took and

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Speaker 7: the email chain that we got last week. You know,

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Speaker 7: the interesting thing is the attorney the Council that was

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Speaker 7: advising Jack Smith and Arctic Frost told them this is

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Speaker 7: a constitutional violation and pointed out to them what we

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Speaker 7: had said early on. It's a First and Fourth Amendment violation.

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Speaker 7: It is a violation of the separation of powers. It's

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Speaker 7: a violation of the Speech and Debate claus it is

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Speaker 7: a violation of due process. It is a violation of

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Speaker 7: the Stored Communications Act. And to think they did this

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Speaker 7: knowing it was outside of the law, but they hate

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Speaker 7: Donald Trump and people that support Donald Trump, and so

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Speaker 7: they did it anyway.

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Speaker 1: Amen, it's a big story.

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Speaker 2: I think we're going to continue to follow it on

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Speaker 2: this program. Please keep us updated on it, and thanks

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Speaker 2: taking the time, and one more time, tell everybody to

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Speaker 7: Senator you got it. Be certain that you go vote today.

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Speaker 7: Tennessee seven. Matt Van Epps needs your vote. Let's send

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Speaker 2: Amen, that Senator Marsha Blackburn, Great State of Tennessee soon

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Speaker 2: to be Governor.

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