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Speaker 1: We got an incredible show for you guys today. Let's

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Speaker 1: get right into it again. We talked about it being

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Speaker 1: trade season, silly season coming up, and I found this

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Speaker 1: latest trade news to.

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Speaker 2: Come out kind of laughable.

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Speaker 1: Just the idea that Tray Young and Cia have let

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Speaker 1: the Hawks know that.

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Speaker 2: They really like for a trade that happen. Also, some

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Speaker 2: new news that came out of this.

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Speaker 1: Tray Young is saying that he has preferred suitors, so

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Speaker 1: the three teams that are at the top of his

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Speaker 1: list being the Minnesota Timberwolves, Washington Wizards.

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Speaker 3: And the like.

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Speaker 1: And also it's said that the Clippers and Bucks are monitoring,

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Speaker 1: monitoring the situation closely, whatever that means.

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Speaker 4: Why was this laughable to you?

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Speaker 1: I just want to know why, because Trey Young has

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Speaker 1: been on the trade block by Atlanta for at least

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Speaker 1: a year and a half.

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Speaker 5: Rumored sure So it's funny to you because it's now

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Speaker 5: his group. Mind, I didn't know he was still I.

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Speaker 2: Thought he was clutch. I think he went back to yeah.

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Speaker 5: So I'm like, damn, okay, who's the represent representation. So

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Speaker 5: it's funny that they're coming out now. They already expressed

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Speaker 5: that they wanted to trade it.

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Speaker 2: It's almost like you about to get fired. Yeah exactly.

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Speaker 1: It's like you're about to get fired, you know about

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Speaker 1: and you'd be like, you cant fired.

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Speaker 4: Me, I quit.

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Speaker 2: It's like trade like all right.

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Speaker 1: And then also, you know when big players come on

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Speaker 1: the market, they always have their list, and normally it's

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Speaker 1: because like these are teams that have a chance to

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Speaker 2: Of their way to get you.

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Speaker 3: Trey.

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Speaker 2: Like, having a like list.

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Speaker 1: Is kind of funny to me, okay, because if these

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Speaker 1: guys wanted you, you've been out there, they could have

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Speaker 2: And got it.

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Speaker 5: I think it's recent that he's been out there like

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Speaker 5: openly to the organization, and now they're doing it amicably

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Speaker 5: but trying to do it together. So now it's like

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Speaker 5: all right, now it's for real out there. Before it

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Speaker 5: was just talks. Now it's really really on the table.

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Speaker 5: So but I get what you're saying, Pete. Why is

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Speaker 5: this list crazy?

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Speaker 3: Because like Trey, when you're a veteran, you want to

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Speaker 3: go to a win situation. But I get it now

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Speaker 3: when I'm looking at it, he's Mark. He's marketing teams

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Speaker 3: to where he can get that money. You know what

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Speaker 3: I'm saying. So when he sayd Wizards and Nets, he

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Speaker 3: know that they got money to resign him. So he like,

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Speaker 3: I'm looking to get my bread and then figure it

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Speaker 3: out after that. Because when you're an All Star and

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Speaker 3: somewhere to where you can help a team get over

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Speaker 3: I get it now.

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Speaker 5: Minnesota makes sense, Yes, to get over like to get

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Speaker 5: over the touch. Yeah, him and man Julius they could be,

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Speaker 5: I think it is cast space. But I also think

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Speaker 5: it's like I want to go to where they can

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Speaker 5: build around me. It's still my team. Yeah, and get

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Speaker 5: your money and then get your extensions. That makes sense,

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Speaker 5: But go ahead, continue.

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Speaker 1: Just just I just want the audience to just have

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Speaker 1: and his situation. So Trey Young has a player option

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Speaker 1: for next season for forty eight and a half million, two.

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Speaker 4: Years left of ninety four million rights.

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Speaker 1: Next season is the last year, so this summer he

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but I must get the years you can opt

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Speaker 5: out and get if this team he trades to, you

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Speaker 1: But what I'm what I'm hinting at, is like, if

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Speaker 1: this would have already happened. And so what I think

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Speaker 1: is complicating this is like, even as a team that

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Speaker 2: To pay this guy fifty mil next year?

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Speaker 1: You know a guy that Atlanta who claims to be

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Speaker 3: I mean, his numbers is fifty mil numbers.

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Speaker 2: I don't think this year. I think there were times

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Speaker 2: in his career where that was the case. I don't

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Speaker 4: Right now, you get a.

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Speaker 5: Small dose this year he's only played like ten said

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Speaker 5: a lot of so we don't know what he looks

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Speaker 5: like this year. But the number he's four time allsar

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Speaker 5: been snubbed a couple times like that to a point

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Speaker 5: where they're saying, you got trade, like snub was a

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Speaker 5: damn sure, you mean for like trade his name, because

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Speaker 5: that's how many he could have been All Star at

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Speaker 5: least two other times. He's averaging twenty five and ten

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he has a crazy career average, like it's it's

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Speaker 1: really crazy. But again, to me, that begs the question,

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Speaker 1: why does nobody want this guy?

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Speaker 4: I don't think he was officially on the table yet,

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Speaker 4: So we're gonna.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we're gonna. I'm gonna say that because don't

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Speaker 3: don't go to how it's play, because his play screams

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Speaker 3: like he's productive, he can help a team. It's like

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Speaker 3: if you're talking about twenty five and ten and then

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Speaker 3: don't want to hear it.

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Speaker 5: So maybe not, depending on the team. You're on now,

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Speaker 5: I was Brooklyn. That's fifty million Washington for fifty million

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Speaker 5: Minnesota probably forty. Like I'm saying, if you.

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Speaker 3: Want to, I'll take that.

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Speaker 5: For it, take a little less just to be I'm saying,

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Speaker 5: like for everybody to be balanced out. They can't afford,

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Speaker 5: you know, to give him that much type of money.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this, I would be surprised if Trey

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Speaker 1: Young on his next deal made as much annual average

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Speaker 4: It just doesn't yeah about I think, of course, of

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Speaker 4: I think he's worth it. I think he was.

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Speaker 5: I think he'll get the same amount maybe ye maybe

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Speaker 5: not more, but I think he can get the same

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Speaker 1: So his his why, his why I'm saying that so

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Speaker 1: and obviously he's not as good as Giannis, but we

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Speaker 2: Jannie is basically after next year he.

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Speaker 1: Can opt out of his deal, which will give him

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Speaker 1: a lot of leverage in terms of a trade. And

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Speaker 1: we already know any team that trades for him side

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Speaker 1: unseen extension. In fact, they're not even trading for Jannis

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Speaker 1: unless he agrees to take their money.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying in terms of the difference

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Speaker 1: in the players markets.

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Speaker 3: You're talking about it all time. Great, Yeah, MVP, MVP

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Speaker 3: caliber player to one of the top players.

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Speaker 2: Let's take it out.

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Speaker 1: Remember last year the point guard that moved a guy

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Speaker 1: by the name of darreon Fox. As soon as he

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Speaker 1: got moved to san Antonian. Mind you, he did the

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Speaker 1: same thing. He said, I'm Santoroni is my team. I

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Speaker 1: have leverage because I only got one year left on

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Speaker 1: my deal. San Antonio already knew they wanted to extend him.

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Speaker 1: This ship, that the request and all of that came together.

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Speaker 3: Like this, that's gonna happen for he gets traded.

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Speaker 1: You think up in DC. I think you think you

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Speaker 1: think DC is gonna trade for Clay. I've heard that

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be around CJ. Excuse me, for Trey and

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Speaker 1: automatically extend him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 1: Why would you trade for automatically? What's the deadline in

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Speaker 1: this extension?

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Speaker 3: Can we make a wager on this before he plays

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Speaker 3: his first game?

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Speaker 5: Before it might be like Pascal Trie. I remember Pascal. His

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Speaker 5: extension didn't come.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it did come a little bit later.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be like that.

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Speaker 3: So you guys think that that's already gonna be talking.

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Speaker 2: Excuse me.

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Speaker 1: Trey is angling to a team like the Wizards because

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Speaker 1: he knows an extension is rise.

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Speaker 4: They have cap space. They haven't spend the money at

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Speaker 4: something like they have. You know that's gonna happen, okay,

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Speaker 4: And they have a little young group over there they

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Speaker 1: So listen, I could see Washington saying, we trade for

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Speaker 2: I don't know why I keep calling him Clay. We

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Speaker 2: trade for Trey.

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Speaker 1: We rip up the the old contract, meaning you don't

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Speaker 1: opt into the fifty million, and we signed you for

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Speaker 1: three years, three years, hundred mil.

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Speaker 5: Thirty something, thirty three, thirty five. No, it's gonna be

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Speaker 5: at least one twenty one twenty.

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Speaker 2: You think one twenty is the number.

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Speaker 3: We get too?

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Speaker 4: Three years, so he's got at least forts.

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Speaker 2: He's got to get at least forty at least forty b.

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Speaker 5: It's disrespectful not to give him at least forty. At

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Speaker 5: twenty five and ten, you gonna get more. Really, it

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Speaker 5: should be forty five to fifty. But like he's you

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Speaker 5: think he should be Yes, today's market, bro, today's game

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Speaker 5: with the contract, guys.

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Speaker 1: I just to me, it's just if you're on a

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Speaker 1: I don't and they don't want to pay.

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Speaker 5: They don't need what he has with their shown. If

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Speaker 5: we don't, they're in a different style of play.

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Speaker 2: We don't need what They don't have a point guard.

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Speaker 4: They have a they have a point forward and Jalen Johnson.

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Speaker 2: But you can't do that like full time bro.

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Speaker 3: Alexander is feeling that nicely, that's all they need.

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Speaker 5: He's gonna be Trey's gone. He's gonna be like they'll

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Speaker 5: have CJ off the ball. He's gonna be second ball,

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Speaker 5: hunder J. That's his team.

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Speaker 2: Definitely his team.

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Speaker 4: He's gonna be point forward. I don't know the trimple

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Speaker 4: double he's ever like twenty five, eight and nine.

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Speaker 5: Some crazy Look at his numbers. His numbers are crazy.

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Speaker 1: I think even if you have a Jamal Nicole, who

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Speaker 1: is one of the best big man point forward bit

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Speaker 1: point center we've ever seen, if not the best, you

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Speaker 1: still got to have a Jamal Murray, right like, you

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Speaker 5: You got the c J and then you got nicoleag Underwalker.

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Speaker 1: And that's why I'm just like, if Trey is just

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Speaker 3: Here and make plays. He can help, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean I think Dallas could use definitely point guard play.

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Speaker 4: You don't think that he fits their trying to still.

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Speaker 3: He can, he can. He can manage them until the

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Speaker 5: He's after I was said, before we get Jailing Johnson

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Speaker 3: He's averaging on the year. Yeah, is he all star?

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Speaker 4: Last year he had like a bad game last game seventeen.

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Speaker 2: Why would the MAVs be like, we want you near

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: But looking at his trade destinations that he would like

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Speaker 4: How do you see that working.

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Speaker 3: I don't like the Minnesota fit okay with Anthony at

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Speaker 5: You don't think if gets traded, it's it's already an

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Speaker 5: don't think he changes his style of play when he

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Speaker 2: That's my only thing about that.

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Speaker 1: The Minnesota potential that I do enjoy is that there's

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Speaker 2: He's earned his place in sort of his standing.

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Speaker 1: However, when it was tough for him to make adjustments

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Speaker 2: Ask me to now.

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Speaker 1: You basically can't demote me and my in my prestige here.

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Speaker 1: Whereas if he goes to Minnesota's gonna be like, look here, bro,

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Speaker 1: we donet have been to conference finals.

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Speaker 2: We done did?

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Speaker 1: We have established at play here. We got a coach here,

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Speaker 2: He would like step in and be like, Yo, we

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Speaker 1: I just think I just love as leadership qualities for sure,

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Speaker 1: And so I think he could make uh trade trade

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Speaker 4: I think it could fit.

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Speaker 3: That's a bad trade mid season when you're trying to

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Speaker 4: You think Minnesota winning this.

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Speaker 3: Year, they got a shot to get back to the conference.

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Speaker 2: To upgrade date. They got a.

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Speaker 5: Shot next year. And I don't think they're thinking we

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Speaker 3: They've been to the conference. I think they're capable of

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Speaker 2: I think you have to film. If you're Minnesota, you

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Speaker 3: You can't think that. So do you think that Houston's

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Speaker 2: I don't think so.

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Speaker 3: I think the only team I think is better than them, Okay.

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Speaker 4: I think san Antonio.

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Speaker 3: I think I don't think Okay, Sanatorio have the experience, maybe.

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Speaker 4: Not, but they are better. Those four teams I think

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Speaker 3: Man, I want to say a great deal together. That

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Speaker 3: means something, Danny, you know that. I think they got

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Speaker 5: Yes, Well, the first year they had cat they played

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Speaker 5: very well. The next year. I'm not trying to dispect Minnesota.

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Speaker 5: They got said. Steph getting hurt helped them a lot.

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Speaker 5: They played the Lakers in the first round. They shouldn't

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Speaker 5: have been a three seeds.

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Speaker 3: Nobody thought they was sweet. Nobody thought.

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Speaker 4: Lakers were good, but they shouldn't have been a three seats.

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Speaker 3: Well, they're gonna say things like that's gonna happen again

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Speaker 5: My point is maybe they got the matchups they got lucky.

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Speaker 5: It's a different type of matchup and there's different type

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Speaker 4: I got you, okay, let's okay.

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Speaker 5: See it's good. Denver's grown got a lot better death wise.

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Speaker 5: San Antonio has grown a lot and got better. Houston

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Speaker 2: Like, I don't think Fred is coming back. I know

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Speaker 2: I saw that on I Forget. I think he was

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Speaker 4: I think that's seven from him is like next month.

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Speaker 1: I think that's even if he comes back, he's going

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Speaker 1: So just get back to outside of Okay, se and

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Speaker 1: you know you said you named san Antonio.

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Speaker 2: Denver Houston.

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Speaker 1: I honestly, even Denver has had problems with these guys,

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Speaker 3: Certain confidence against the team.

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Speaker 2: I think they should be trying to get way better,

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Speaker 4: I'm with you.

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Speaker 5: I don't think they have some type of grandeur delusion.

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Speaker 5: They should feel a way about themselves. They accomplish some things,

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Speaker 5: but they're not there. They got to know in the

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Speaker 3: So who's there. You're saying Houston, I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: Those four teams have more, they have an opportunity. Those

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Speaker 5: I don't see Minnesota in that conversation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we just agree to disagree on that one.

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Speaker 4: We forgot. We didn't finish that name. It was the name.

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Speaker 5: So the other question was was Trey we stem with Trey?

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Speaker 5: If Milwaukee can get Trey to come there, does it

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Speaker 5: keep Yana's home?

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Speaker 3: No? Fuck no, that's a horrible man.

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Speaker 2: Trade a gang.

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Speaker 4: No, it's not still not keeping on It's home.

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Speaker 1: No, because like, do you really think Milwaukee is a

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Speaker 2: No, they're not.

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Speaker 3: Not.

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Speaker 5: Not like they're not gonna beat the Western Conference team.

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Speaker 5: But I think the East is very wide open.

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 5: You got a guy like Yiannis who's very good m

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Speaker 4: You got I mean, they might have give up Bobby Porters.

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Speaker 5: They got some decent, you know people, but they have

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Speaker 3: I just respect your basketball opinion. I respect your i Q.

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Speaker 3: But when you get a trade in the middle of

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Speaker 5: No, I'm saying right now, it helps Giannis believe that

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Speaker 5: they're building towards, not saying they're gonna.

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Speaker 4: Win this year.

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Speaker 3: He should believe that anyway. He shouldn't believe that anybody. They've been

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Speaker 3: doing something every year for but they've gone out their

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Speaker 1: You were hell being on winning as much as you

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Speaker 5: I'm not saying win big, no, but I'm saying that

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Speaker 2: But that's the standard that he has made public.

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Speaker 5: That's why are you trying to go to So you

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Speaker 5: think New York is like if he really wanted to

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Speaker 5: San Antonio.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure yeah again, Okay saying I know these I

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Speaker 3: You want to win, is not moving nothing.

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying they are, but I'm saying concerned what

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Speaker 4: I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: But you're saying, to help on the winning, you consider

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Speaker 5: all cities that have a chance to win, not just

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Speaker 5: the cities that have good weather.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's I'm not saying the good weather part, Danny.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying like he doesn't want to do the

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Speaker 1: the po dunk town thing, like that's just I don't

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Speaker 1: think so, it's winning and something different than what he's

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Speaker 1: already experienced because because.

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Speaker 2: Think about it, he's already one big in a small town.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I want to win big in a major,

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Speaker 1: different city, different media market, all of those things.

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Speaker 2: Just to round out the trade stuff Clippers obviously.

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Speaker 1: That would be they would they should be talent.

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Speaker 5: If he went to the Clippers with that helped them.

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Speaker 5: Is at the leadership that would help the Clippers leadership.

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Speaker 3: That's what the last question, I got a major trade,

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Speaker 3: but I can't even say after this question camera, No,

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Speaker 3: what are you scared to say, let's go all.

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Speaker 4: Right, so we can't.

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Speaker 5: If the last question was the Clippers, if he went

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 1: I think the Clippers should be one to upgrade in talent,

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Speaker 1: back with our Picks leaderboard and Monday night we had

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Speaker 1: the Knicks at the Pistons.

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Speaker 2: Pistons destroy the New York Knicks.

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Speaker 1: Without Jalen Durham. Just horrible showing by the Knicks. Knicks

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Speaker 1: were without Josh hard again. Everyone went three and one

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Speaker 1: on their picks. Basically, Jalen Brunson had less than twenty

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Speaker 1: six Paul me, and you said me, and you said more,

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Speaker 1: Paul said less. Mitchell Robinson had ten rebounds, everybody said more.

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Speaker 1: Cad had more than twenty six and a half points,

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Speaker 1: Paul said less.

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Speaker 2: Me and Danny said more. And then Kate more or

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Speaker 2: less than six and a half assists.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he had a great game, had a great showing

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Speaker 1: how large is the gap between the Knicks and the

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Speaker 1: Pistons right now?

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Speaker 4: That's that's one one game. I think.

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Speaker 3: I think, I honestly think, I think it's a huge guy.

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Speaker 3: When I looked at the playoff series last year, how

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Speaker 3: close it was, and they got better. The niggave just

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Speaker 3: completely way better than the Oh god better.

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Speaker 1: Paul, we see you had a tweet on x where

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Speaker 1: you claimed that you could get six points, one rebound,

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Speaker 1: and one assist in twenty.

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Speaker 3: Twenty two minutes in the league. So my final year is.

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Speaker 2: Your What was your thought process behind that tweet?

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean my thought process was like, when I

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Speaker 3: saw Catt six one and one and twenty two minutes,

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I could do that. I could probably still

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Speaker 3: be in the league. So my last year in the league,

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Speaker 3: everybody been frying me, saying, hey, you averaged three points

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Speaker 3: and to rebounds. Yo. Last year when I said, well,

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Speaker 3: how many minutes did I play? Well, if you look

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Speaker 3: it up, I played eleven minutes.

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Speaker 4: That's half the time, so you double those minutes.

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Speaker 3: I could get to that.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's get.

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Speaker 1: Into our favorite segment of Everything show. That's our Picks

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Speaker 1: of the Night presented by Prize Picks. And we got

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Speaker 1: a great matchup, a rematch of Ooh, I think it

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Speaker 1: was November they played where the Lakers one of really

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Speaker 1: close games over time at Crypto great game, crazy finish.

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Speaker 2: This time, yes, super dope finished. This time. Lakers are

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Speaker 2: at the Spurs. Lebron more or less than twenty and

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Speaker 2: a half points, Danny Green more.

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Speaker 5: He has to go, like for them to be in

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Speaker 5: this game, mind you, with ar being out, I guess

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Speaker 5: it's him and Luca Like they have to score.

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Speaker 4: So I'm gonna say more.

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Speaker 3: What about you, Paul, Yeah, primetime game. He's gonna get

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Speaker 3: some calls. I'm gonna go more.

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Speaker 1: Lebron's been averaging something like twenty five, six and six

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Speaker 1: for the last month or so.

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Speaker 2: He seems to be getting his legs up under him.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go less. However, I think he's gonna play

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Speaker 1: more of a floor game and like set the right screens,

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Speaker 1: find the right guys. I think he's gonna be more

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Speaker 1: of that kind of guy Lebron more or less than

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Speaker 1: eight point five assists less.

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Speaker 4: If he does that offensive, they're gonna get blown out.

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Speaker 3: Got you geez.

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Speaker 4: But he's gonna have less sis he has to.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna say uh, I'm gonna say less because

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Speaker 3: he's gonna be doing a lot more scoring. I think

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Speaker 3: he's gonna be a little more aggressive than passing. He

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Speaker 3: has to with know Austin Austin Reeves. So I'll go

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Speaker 3: less with the eight point five says n The.

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Speaker 1: Sis is a lot, so I'm just going less as well.

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Speaker 1: Webbin Yama more or less than twenty six and a

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Speaker 1: half points.

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Speaker 4: This is his first game back, if he's back. Correct, No,

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Speaker 4: he played.

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Speaker 2: He played the other night. He played against Memphis.

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Speaker 3: Okay, really they lost too, Yeah, they did lose them

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Speaker 3: at one point loss.

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Speaker 1: John morantles Memphis, so they're gonna be looking to get

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Speaker 1: some get back for sure.

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Speaker 5: Still, I'm gonna go less, though, I don't have twenty

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Speaker 5: seven points is a lot second, second, third game.

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Speaker 3: Back got I just don't like the interior defense of

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Speaker 3: the Lakers. Go more, I'm going more. I'm gonna go less.

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Speaker 1: I think JJ Way's gonna do his Divisit game plan

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Speaker 1: to make sure that wem B doesn't beat them.

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Speaker 2: However, the Spurs got plenty of other players that could

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Speaker 2: beat you.

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Speaker 4: But I'm still going less. I'm gonna go more.

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Speaker 1: Stephan Castle, who last pick of the night more or

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Speaker 1: less than eighteen and a half points?

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Speaker 4: More?

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Speaker 2: You gotta go more.

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Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna go less because I feel like

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Speaker 3: he hasn't had a consistent run with points, because the

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Speaker 3: Spurs have so many different guys eighteen twenty at night,

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Speaker 3: So I'm gonna go less.

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Speaker 2: I just the Lakers point.

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Speaker 4: Of a good game in a while. I think he's

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Speaker 4: due for.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's good for like sixteen.

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Speaker 4: Lights of brightest Kids shows up.

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Speaker 1: Got win in the game though, Spurs easily Spurs.

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Speaker 5: But Spurs are I think a win they do. For one,

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Speaker 5: they had a couple of bad losses recently.

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Speaker 2: I'll take Lakers in an upset.

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Speaker 4: They lost.

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Speaker 5: They lost the Cleveland right Utah Portland and Memphis got you.

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Speaker 5: They had them in the power because it's like, yo,

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Speaker 5: they need they need to win.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's get into our next segment here, and it's

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Speaker 1: you know, it's been a leap year for a lot

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Speaker 1: of guys in the league. And I want to give

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Speaker 1: a shout out to my former colleague Michael Pena at

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Speaker 1: The Ringer. He put out a piece where he highlighted

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Speaker 1: a bunch of guys that are.

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Speaker 2: Making leaps this year.

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Speaker 1: Not just like second year guys who were just way

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Speaker 1: better than their rookie year and you know, making obvious improvements, or.

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Speaker 2: Third year guys for that matter, but guys.

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Speaker 1: Is just legitimately vastly improving their expectation coming into the season.

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Speaker 1: Supersed And the first person I want to talk about

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Speaker 1: is Michael Porter junior going to the Brooklyn Nets. I

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Speaker 1: think we thought that he would get more opportunity and

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Speaker 1: he would have a higher volume, but like his efficiency

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Speaker 1: has stayed the same, if not even better, and he's

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Speaker 1: doing more.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of crazy.

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Speaker 1: And it's not just that the guy he's playing hard,

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Speaker 1: he's playing the right way.

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Speaker 5: He like they're playing good basketball, winning basketball.

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Speaker 4: They're winning more than they should be.

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Speaker 5: They're trying to get picked or trying to get like

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Speaker 5: they shouldn't be winning, but they're playing good basketball. He's

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Speaker 5: he's showing he's got a point to prove. And if

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Speaker 5: you're trying to if you're a team that's kind of

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Speaker 5: in the dumps, are trying to figure out, this is

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Speaker 5: the guy you need to trade for, like the Golden States,

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Speaker 5: like they're looking for a switch up, like they need

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Speaker 5: to come and get this guy because he's been balling.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I was somebody that was high on

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Speaker 1: the Denver trade. I'm still actually pretty high on it.

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Speaker 1: I think it changed the sort of makeup of their team.

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Speaker 4: Some high IQ guys knock a down.

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Speaker 1: Lateral quickness is like a bigger guy now he's not

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Speaker 1: a guard. Threes, running around screens kind of got like

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Speaker 1: he's and they needed that element in the in their lineup.

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Speaker 1: So I'm still high on the trade. But MPJ has

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Speaker 1: blown me away with what he's done. Denny Abdia for me,

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Speaker 1: going crazy has been the craziest.

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Speaker 4: Jump most of the player in the league. He's definitely

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Speaker 4: most improved.

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Speaker 1: Denny A is leading the league and drives per game.

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Speaker 1: They can't keep this guy out the paint. He's up

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Speaker 1: this free throw percentage, he's averaging that yes.

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Speaker 4: Twenty six seven, twenty six seven seven start.

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Speaker 1: He's just like MVP numbers when when at the end

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Speaker 1: of games, Portland just gives.

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Speaker 2: Him the rock and teams are like, yo, what the fuck?

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Speaker 2: Best defender on Denny Abdia?

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Speaker 3: Where did he come from?

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Speaker 1: He was on the Wizards and he was always in play,

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Speaker 1: but he was in Washington.

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Speaker 3: But he Washington, he.

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Speaker 5: Wouldn't have much opportunity there either. Yeah, when he got

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Speaker 5: to Portland.

668
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 2: They got him for basically nothing, and.

669
00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 4: He got him.

670
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 3: I think it's his It was very It's hard for

671
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 3: me to judge players on these bad teams because when

672
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 3: you become good, then it's like, how good are you

673
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,479
Speaker 3: really on a good team, because like we're seeing MPJ

674
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 3: average twenty five, but on the championship team he's eighteen,

675
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 3: you know. So like, I like the fact that he's

676
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 3: doing what he needs to do and he could contribute

677
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 3: as a third option on a championship team with these

678
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 3: type of numbers, because I don't see him as a

679
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 3: league guy on a winning team.

680
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: What about the ideas some people have the idea that

681
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: maybe the Nets might even want to keep him. He's

682
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: become so valuable, and you know, you like to have

683
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: shooting around your young.

684
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 4: Portland's not that bad. Like they're they're okay.

685
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 2: To they had to run at the end of last season.

686
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 4: I think you're not as bad as like.

687
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 3: I don't think they're gonna make the plan right. They're

688
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 3: in the play now, but I think they're gonna slide out.

689
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 4: They're going You think, yeah, this is a team right

690
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 4: under him. The teams behind him are really bad. Yes,

691
00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 4: there's one team Sacramento. Yeah, they will make the players.

692
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 4: I like what he's doing.

693
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 3: He's doing what he needs to do, though, Like if

694
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 3: you're on a team like that, you like, shoot, this

695
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 3: is my opportunity when a bunch of young guys you're

696
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 3: standing out. Yeah, and he's doing what he needs to do.

697
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 4: A couple of teams is behind him, and I think.

698
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 3: That Utah, that's it. Utah is gonna be all right.

699
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 4: They can't George Bowling, but that they're gonna they're gonna

700
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 4: be outside of you got.

701
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 3: You got that other kid with the hops, Shannon, I

702
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 3: mean not but sharp the sharp kid. Oh, he is

703
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 3: cold like a lot Portland.

704
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: I think they're like they had a nice run to

705
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: in the second half of last season. People over the

706
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: summer were like, oh, maybe Portland could be Like I

707
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: think they've come below expectations a little bit higher with

708
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: the highest and the injuries school.

709
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 2: Even the point guard anymore, who fucking knows her?

710
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 3: Right?

711
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 4: Then you have another he had I.

712
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 2: Think disappointed with the way the school thing is on.

713
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: But our last leap guys definitely Austin Reeves, who we've

714
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: talked about. He's hurt right now, but this is just

715
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: he's been a bona fide All Stars.

716
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 4: He didn't miss these games. He should he would have.

717
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 3: We gotta be talking about Josh Gitty as the lead

718
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 3: to Dog. Yeah, he's not been Josh in there.

719
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 5: They took it. They would start out good. He's still

720
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 5: playing well. He took a couple like he had some injuries.

721
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 3: They took a depth in there as far as the

722
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 3: lead because he's like playing All star level basketball too. Yeah.

723
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: I mean for me, the biggest one for me is

724
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: probably Danny because I thought he was a solid role player.

725
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 5: There's other guys out there we're not mentioned. We should

726
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 5: give some flowers like Ryan Rollins.

727
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 2: Ryan Rollins.

728
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: You know, I'm saying a guy who was like they

729
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: signed him for like three or four million dollars a

730
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: year and he's a Bonell Mitchell also your.

731
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 3: Kid also that's coming off the bench for the Houston Rockets.

732
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 4: The Shepherd Reed Shepherd, Yes, Anthony Black.

733
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like there's a lot of guys out there that

734
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 5: are hooping right now and they should get some more notoriety.

735
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 5: Of course, these are the guys all Stars and get top,

736
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 5: but those other guys.

737
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 3: Should be Oh, my boyfriend Indiana them Hart.

738
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, he had great NBA.

739
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 5: Playoffs yeaheah, he's his younger brothers. His younger brother's doing

740
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 5: well to in dollars.

741
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

742
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you guys though, because fans it's

743
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: like you hear this, oh, such as I just making

744
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: elite this year, such as just making the leap. I

745
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: want to ask you guys about your own careers and

746
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: when you felt like, oh okay, like I was here

747
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: but now I'm here where you like felt the.

748
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 2: Difference in like how did that manifest?

749
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 3: Yeah? So I felt the difference, Like my third year

750
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 3: in the league, I really felt like I talked about it.

751
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 3: I thought I should have been an All Star. I

752
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 3: just I feel like I got snubbed. My third year,

753
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 3: I was I was just like twenty five. I was like,

754
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 3: all right, I'm comfortable in the league right now, I'll

755
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 3: figured it out. The game is slowing down.

756
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: What was giving you problems before that you had a

757
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: better time of mastering.

758
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 3: I don't think it was just problems. It was just

759
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 3: like earning the respect that the coaches and the team

760
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 3: giving me more rope got you. You know what I'm saying,

761
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 3: because I think I came.

762
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 2: In with you had a great rookie.

763
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, I was averaging like sixteen. I was. I

764
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 3: was averaging twenty before I sprained my ankle, you know,

765
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 3: as a rookie. But then that kind of slowed me

766
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 3: down because I played on the springing anko and that

767
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 3: allowed my average because I like, I was always a

768
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:28,240
Speaker 3: natural score and I just started figuring out the other things,

769
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 3: like you know, playing out of double teams. Now figuring

770
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 3: out that this is about my third year, I was

771
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 3: learning how to play the different defenses. Like at first

772
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 3: it was just all just raw scoring and all of that.

773
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 3: But then when you start figuring out are they doubling me?

774
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 3: Where the double cookm like this man's open the corner,

775
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 3: the skip pass this and that. You start figuring how

776
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:45,320
Speaker 3: to pick apart with me?

777
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 2: Are you are you watching film in the off season

778
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 2: all day long? Got you?

779
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm watching film. I'm watching myself. I'm watching other

780
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,720
Speaker 3: players who I can just like learn from them all

781
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 3: of that, and I'm seeing like, all right, I need

782
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 3: to get stronger. I'm not finishing my hand once, so

783
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 3: I need get a little more stronger. I need to

784
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 3: get more explosive, my less need to get strong. I'm

785
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 3: looking at all of that. And so like my third

786
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 3: year for me was the league.

787
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 2: You feel like you took that step into like I'm

788
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 2: really a guy now.

789
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: Then you had a different process becoming a bona fide starter,

790
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: a guy who closed not only started games. To this date,

791
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 1: you closed damn near every single game because of what

792
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: you walk to the table.

793
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 2: When you feel like you you're like, oh, I'm like

794
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 2: a guy who can be counted.

795
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 5: I had to earn on defense mostly that's a again

796
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 5: gaining pop in respect like third year, but there was

797
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 5: one year I did. I was never the guy, but

798
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 5: there was one year I was able to handle. But

799
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 5: like do a little bit more. I watched a little film.

800
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 5: I made a little jump.

801
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 4: And like, all right, let me see I can get

802
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 4: some options off dh o's you know what I'm saying,

803
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 4: Or get a little second side pick and roll, like

804
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 4: get a little mid range.

805
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 5: I had to work on the mid range. And that

806
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 5: was the year Choir was out. I think like when

807
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 5: he was kind of sitting down, was like, all right, I'm

808
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 5: a handleball over it. If you look at like maybe

809
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 5: twenty seventeen or eighteen, I was handle the ball a

810
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 5: little bit more, just for like a short stint.

811
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 3: Gosh.

812
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 5: But I had to get that confidence from the coach,

813
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 5: like I had to build it in them. I show

814
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 5: we're like, all right, you know he's able to do it.

815
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 5: But before that, then I went to Toronto. Then I was like,

816
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 5: team's only bringing me in to do this. But I

817
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 5: slidify myself as what I was as a defensive guy

818
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 5: and then knocking down shots. Yeah, and I how to

819
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 5: get you know, perfect that and get better at it.

820
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 5: And it's easy to do and nobody knows you in

821
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 5: the scout report, but even harder when they know what

822
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 5: the hell you can do and they're trying to get

823
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 5: you to run you off the line, So like how

824
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 5: efficient can you be when they know your scout report?

825
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 5: So just getting better, learning how to get your spot

826
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 5: to your feet quicker, creating space or getting you shot

827
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 5: off quick enough or pump fake side, you know, fly

828
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 5: by reload, you know, still being effective and not having

829
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 5: to go inside because the scout rows get them off

830
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 5: the line, make them go inside, not let them just

831
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 5: do that, you know, find a ways to still get

832
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 5: your shot off and saying behind the line and then

833
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 5: again figuring that out how to just well lasting leak

834
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 5: that long by just knowing what they're bringing you in

835
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 5: to do.

836
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 4: Like once I knew what my role was, I didn't

837
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 4: need to venture out of that.

838
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 5: Just needed to you know, perfect that and get better

839
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 5: at that and finding how I get my my my

840
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 5: shots and spots like spots in certain offenses.

841
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: When you become more reliable on defense, Like is that

842
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: a film thing? Is that a spurs giving you a

843
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: program for the off season?

844
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 3: What is that?

845
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 5: It's a little bit of everything. Yeah, and it's like, yo,

846
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 5: you need to work on this and you need chasing guys.

847
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 5: There was more of a pinned down league.

848
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 4: Can't get saying we need to do this lock and

849
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 4: trail all those things, yo, and if they say it

850
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:25,760
Speaker 4: this way. Yeah, we had little drills and it's like, yo, there.

851
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 5: Was no not much room for like sometimes the player

852
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 5: has a feel like all right, I'm a Tony Allen

853
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 5: might but I could shoot the gap on they tell

854
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 5: you to do this, better do this, or you're coming

855
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 5: out the game. So we had to make sure you

856
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 5: do it that way. But yeah, just mostly his personnel

857
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 5: with everything in defense, like knowing the guys his habits.

858
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 5: Everybody has habits. Even also I was like, all right,

859
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 5: I know what his name does a little dance. I

860
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 5: know he's going to side step right or he's gonna

861
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 5: do is you know, step back left in China four

862
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 5: And just also with the game plan is we're going

863
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 5: to force this guy right and left and you gotta

864
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 5: know that, you know within the point five seconds of

865
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 5: closing out to guy whether he's a shooter, well, he's

866
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 5: a driver, and what hand you said to them to

867
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 5: because if you if you fuck it up, you're gonna

868
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 5: look really bad. And doing that Santao's all film basically gotcha.

869
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 2: Well man, we just went from players taking individual leaps

870
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 2: to now a team we thought was taking a leap,

871
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 2: but seems to be backsliding a bit.

872
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: And that's the Okac thunder who have lost back to

873
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: back games the second time this season, this time to

874
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: the Suns or as I like to call them, the

875
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 1: Phoenix Dylan Brooks and the Hornets.

876
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 3: Thirties to back, and.

877
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 4: That first loss was deflating.

878
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 2: Bro It was not just an l they lost by thirties.

879
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 4: They got belt, they got built.

880
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,439
Speaker 1: Okay, okayc is now six and six in the last

881
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: twelve games after starting twenty four and one.

882
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 2: That's why I'm just like guys thirty and seven.

883
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 5: I think it was just one those knights for them,

884
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 5: Like Charlotte. You're seeing the shot that LaMelo hit falling

885
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 5: out of bounds off one leg shots.

886
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have one of those knights in the league

887
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 2: where the other team.

888
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 4: Just gets and they just was.

889
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 5: They was coming off a bad loss back to back

890
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 5: that like Shane Bailey got twenty Like that's let me know, y'all.

891
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 5: I watched it and they had some open looks they

892
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 5: just missed them. It was one of those nights for

893
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 5: them where they were playing bad and seat was playing

894
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 5: really good, and that was a result of and they

895
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 5: hadn't lost the Eastern Conference team and regular season.

896
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 4: Since last year of January, so it's been a full

897
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 4: calendar year.

898
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 2: Damn, Paul, what's your level of concern?

899
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: One to ten, ten being Yo, this is a major

900
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: freaking problem. Some changes need to happen in terms of

901
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: talent upgrade, whatever the case may be.

902
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 2: Zero meaning this is absolutely nothing, let's move on.

903
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 3: Is nothing to see here, Let's say this is zero no,

904
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:48,720
Speaker 3: but this is the thing. They still got the best

905
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 3: record in the league, right And yeah, I know they

906
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 3: got back to back losses, but like, it gets to

907
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 3: the point in the season when you had this type

908
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 3: of success coming off of championship and you've just been dominating.

909
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 3: Sometimes you get bored with the process and you're like, man,

910
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 3: it's a long season. You know, it takes steps to

911
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 3: get back to where you want to get to, but

912
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 3: like it can be draining and you're like, man, I

913
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 3: can't wait for the playoffs, but you know there's a

914
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 3: process of getting to that.

915
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 4: They want to simulate the games.

916
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 3: You want to simulate the games. But they're like, they'll

917
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 3: get back, they'll get it back. You know, we're almost

918
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 3: at the halfway mark and I wish that they had

919
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 3: All Star at the exact halfway mark, you know, and

920
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 3: it'll be better.

921
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 4: They just hit a little bit and you know, this

922
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:33,760
Speaker 4: could be their championship hangover.

923
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 3: They haven't had one, you know. Sometimes team have that, Yeah,

924
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 3: that hangover, so games.

925
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 5: And everything to I think make a play but a

926
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 5: part of playing it. But again, I think this is

927
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 5: trying to repeat. It's harder to do.

928
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 3: You know, and they beat all the good teams.

929
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:49,720
Speaker 2: What's your level of concern?

930
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 3: His is zero?

931
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna say at least it's like at least

932
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,280
Speaker 5: a four or five. Yeah, it's not heavy, high medium

933
00:40:55,320 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 5: like record six games and Spurs is one thing. Three,

934
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 5: but losing at home Spurs two is like, okay, we

935
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 5: have a Spurs issue.

936
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 2: Now.

937
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 5: It's not Phoenix Minnesota, Charlotte like Charlotte, Okay, that was

938
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 5: a bad night. But Phoenix Minnesota, like some of those

939
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 5: even lost to any teams outside the Spurs that that

940
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:13,879
Speaker 5: are gonna give them a concern in the playoffs.

941
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 2: Sure, I think my level is about a six. Damn

942
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 2: it's a sixth.

943
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 1: And the reason w because everybody just assumes, okay, C

944
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: is gonna just their group is just.

945
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:30,439
Speaker 2: Gonna get way better.

946
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 1: They're not that far ahead of They're gonna be so

947
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: much better than everybody county, and they're gonna kill everybody.

948
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 2: Here's the problem with that thinking, Paul, this is the NBA.

949
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: These are the best players, the best coaches, the best athletes,

950
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: the best basketball minds in the world. This idea that

951
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: they're not gonna figure out a way to make you

952
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: worse than your best, like it just makes no sense.

953
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: Then your previous best, that's some new thing that you've developed,

954
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: this previous thing that you beat people with. I'm not

955
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: surprised when they go against Phoenix, just really quickly, and

956
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: Phoenix is making them uncomfortable.

957
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 2: The fucking Phoenix Suns they're making.

958
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,280
Speaker 3: Finish is a pretty competitive team though.

959
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: They are, but the Phoenix Suns basically impose their will

960
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: defensively on OKC.

961
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 2: And again, I'm not surprised, but I'm not saying they're not.

962
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: They can't win the championship, they're finished, blow it all up,

963
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: all of that.

964
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 2: But am I concerned?

965
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 3: Yes? All right, So listen to me. As a former player,

966
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 3: I'm on the team that's dominant championship, won a championship

967
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 3: off the next year, we go to Phoenix, We're like,

968
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 3: just mindset wise, I'm like, we might not even have

969
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 3: shoot around for them, you know what I'm saying. And

970
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 3: then Charlotte, we might not have shuit around for them.

971
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 3: And now we're like, you know what to go out?

972
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 3: Teams like these are we're going out a couple bottom

973
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:59,399
Speaker 3: of That's what my concern is, like, but you gotta

974
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 3: say before you go, daddy, long season and you know,

975
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 3: guys gotta get out like this that too long of

976
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 3: a season to be in your hotel room every night. Like, guys,

977
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 3: go have some fun, like you have to some long

978
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 3: season because you know, like the last month and a

979
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,760
Speaker 3: half you're gonna buckle down and it's gonna be locking

980
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 3: in time.

981
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,919
Speaker 2: And they have a great cush in the standing for sure.

982
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 5: But this is why you don't they say, don't flip this,

983
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 5: like you can't just turn it on when you can.

984
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 5: Some teams can, but young teams usually can't. So like

985
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 5: you gotta My concern is not with their roster, it's

986
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 5: just their mentality and their approach right now. It's like

987
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 5: if they don't tie en up, they might not be

988
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,720
Speaker 5: able to turn that switch back on, like you gotta

989
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 5: make sure you don't lose yourself.

990
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 3: I don't see no chinks. I don't see no like a.

991
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 3: I don't see no egos on this team. I don't

992
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 3: see no hot heads on this team. I see a

993
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,919
Speaker 3: bunch of young guys who get along for sure, who

994
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 3: don't get in no trouble, who tour for one another.

995
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 3: They not like our team like we might be out

996
00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 3: Like man, we ain't worried about them. I ain't got

997
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,439
Speaker 3: no hot d You ain't got no dudes on the team.

998
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 3: I don't feel like they got no dudes.

999
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 2: In the night before Diagonal, I got crazy.

1000
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 4: They got to show me.

1001
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 3: Nobody got to.

1002
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 5: That's unsatisfaction. Hunger to me is like you're serious about it.

1003
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: And yet again, just to reiterate, I think the other

1004
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 1: guys in the NBA are pros to their hyper competitive too.

1005
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 2: And they're meeting okay, set for the challenge and you

1006
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 2: get anybody's best shot every night. That's that's what it

1007
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 2: means to be the champion.

1008
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 4: I think that's that's part of it.

1009
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 5: Those too, like us, with the standard for them is

1010
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 5: high because they went twenty four and one.

1011
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, realistically, if they didn't go twenty six and six stretch.

1012
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: Nobody's really Yeah, if they was, what are they now?

1013
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 1: Thirty and they're thirty and seven?

1014
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 4: Thirty and seven like saying.

1015
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 1: The damn they're the number two in the West, is

1016
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:48,399
Speaker 1: behind them by like six seven games.

1017
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, thirty and seven.

1018
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: We'll be like, all right, we're talking about so I'm

1019
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 1: concerned about them other teams, the twelve losses. All right,

1020
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 1: let's get into standing on a business of course.

1021
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 2: The king of the.

1022
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 1: Petty KD Monday night hit a dagger three to win

1023
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,800
Speaker 1: the game and beat the Suns one hundred to ninety seven.

1024
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 1: He said, quote he knew it was going up as

1025
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: soon as as he came out the huddle.

1026
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 3: Okay, so yeah, this was no single.

1027
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 4: He's definitely shooting.

1028
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 2: Shooting that rock.

1029
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: When when asked if it was meant When asked if

1030
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: it meant more to hit that shot on the Suns,

1031
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:31,919
Speaker 1: he responded, quote, most definitely a place that I didn't

1032
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: want to.

1033
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,720
Speaker 2: Leave my first time.

1034
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: I don't want to sound too dramatic, but I will

1035
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 1: to be kicked out of a place. Another quote, it

1036
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: feels good to play against the team that booted you

1037
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: out of the building and scapegoaded you for all the

1038
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 1: problems they had, and it hurt because I put all

1039
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 1: my effort and love and care towards the Suns and

1040
00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: the Phoenix area in Arizona in general.

1041
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 2: But that's just the business. That's the name of the game.

1042
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, get these niggas. Yeah.

1043
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: Do you ever lose the chip on your shoulder when

1044
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: playing a former team?

1045
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 3: No, I've never really had a chip on my shoulder because,

1046
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 3: like when I went back to Boston, that was like

1047
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 3: a mutual thing. I didn't feel kicked out of town,

1048
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And the rant gotta understand

1049
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 3: that that comes with the territory when you're a certain

1050
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,919
Speaker 3: caliber player that he's it, he is, There's expectations put

1051
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 3: on wherever you go, so when things don't work out,

1052
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,879
Speaker 3: you are the scapegoat. And so I get it though,

1053
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 3: But you know, great players need little things throughout the

1054
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 3: course of a season to keep them motivated too. Like

1055
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 3: he used that, like, you know, let me go bust

1056
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 3: the ass real quick. Let me get them this and

1057
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 3: let them hold on to that, y'all. You know what

1058
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 3: I'm saying.

1059
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 4: Regardless, I think.

1060
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 2: Were you pissed the first time you played the Spurs.

1061
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:53,959
Speaker 4: I wanna say pissed.

1062
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 5: I wasn't kicked out of there either, But regardless kicked

1063
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 5: out or not, you still want to let them know

1064
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 5: what's up Like.

1065
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 2: This necessarily have to put you in the deal with Kawhi.

1066
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 5: Maybe, I mean, maybe not, I don't know either way.

1067
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,479
Speaker 5: I mean again, when it happened, I thought it was time,

1068
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 5: Like I.

1069
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 3: Wasn't okay, got you you know what I'm saying.

1070
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I thought like it was like.

1071
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 2: You was ready to go to Toronto.

1072
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 4: It was a good one for both.

1073
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 5: Like I thought like, this is another team in the

1074
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 5: East that could like you know, I thought my time

1075
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 5: was up there, but like I felt it was time

1076
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 5: for change or new challenge.

1077
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 4: Yes, you know it was. It was up and like.

1078
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 5: Playing for Pops, it was a lot on the mental

1079
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 5: So I was like, you know, it ain't a bad

1080
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 5: thing for me to be so. But even said I

1081
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 5: didn't feel kicked out of Toronto, but if I played

1082
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 5: against him, it's like all right, un much. I know

1083
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 5: y'all probably should have wanted me like try to get

1084
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,479
Speaker 5: me back or kept me. Only place that I felt

1085
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 5: like I was kind of kicked out of, but definitely

1086
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 5: traded they let me know, but l A but even

1087
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 5: even if I was kicked out or not or like traded,

1088
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:52,919
Speaker 5: where it was like, were you part of the deal?

1089
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 5: I was part of the Schroder deal.

1090
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 2: Schroeder okay, to get Schroeder in there.

1091
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,240
Speaker 5: So they were each year trying to get more guys

1092
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 5: and to get off the ball, which it never happened,

1093
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 5: like Lebron of the balls, save his legs, keep him fresh,

1094
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 5: and it made sense. That made sense. I was all right,

1095
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 5: you know, showed and he played well. You know, that's

1096
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 5: when he turned.

1097
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 2: Down He actually played well with the Lakers.

1098
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,879
Speaker 5: He turned down the money mid season extension. That's why

1099
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 5: this season he didn't get the money was there was

1100
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 5: no money on the market, so he had to take.

1101
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 1: The Lakers went from having the best defense in the.

1102
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:25,240
Speaker 3: NBA easily.

1103
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 1: A D Danny Green, k CP, carus so cool, just

1104
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: a bunch of killers.

1105
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 4: On you by to get rid of all of them.

1106
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 3: They got rid of it, said.

1107
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 2: Should have been downhill ever since.

1108
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 4: That shoulder deal.

1109
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 5: They kept a C for a little bit, KCP for

1110
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 5: a second, then they went and got treads later. So

1111
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 5: but it made sense to me at the time to

1112
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 5: keep like another ball hand for.

1113
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: Then they went and paid tailor Wharton Tucker and told

1114
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: a C to go fish, go get your bread elsewhere

1115
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:06,760
Speaker 1: in the house.

1116
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 4: He was the clutch guy, was good, Taylor.

1117
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 2: Taylor just he just rushed over, said, a C is

1118
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 2: a clutch guy.

1119
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 4: But he was good. He was good though at the

1120
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:18,919
Speaker 4: time he was young.

1121
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 5: But and then I guess he didn't pan out the

1122
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 5: way expect right now, but he showed signs of some

1123
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 5: He couldn't play in that group because also they went

1124
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 5: and got Russ and he didn't.

1125
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 4: He was another guy in needed the ball's hands.

1126
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was I'm just saying who's.

1127
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 5: And who else went to that d C deal Forreds

1128
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 5: went there, they went and got Russ. Yeah, because they

1129
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 5: went came over from the clipper side after on a

1130
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 5: six minute a year, right, and then they traded him

1131
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 5: to d C with Ksey and.

1132
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: Remember that got rid of all of the perimeter defenders.

1133
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 1: Just a crazy crazy times. But I just love I

1134
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: don't know, I'm into kd being having a chip on

1135
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: his shoulder, yeah, said, it makes for great entertainment.

1136
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 2: Him yelling at everybody. He made the shot.

1137
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 5: Everybody, even if you felt it was mutual I think

1138
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 5: anytime you play your old team, you you listen, man, Like,

1139
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,479
Speaker 5: I'm sure even the Phoenix Suns guys with Dylan Brooks

1140
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 5: and I'm like, yo, they still loving Houston.

1141
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 4: But he's like, Yo, No, Like, you know you're.

1142
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 2: Gonna see an X. You want to have a first cut.

1143
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 3: You know we got.

1144
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:25,320
Speaker 4: Look crazy.

1145
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody knows that.

1146
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 1: And now you know, I just want to get you

1147
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: guys on a foul and no file.

1148
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:32,720
Speaker 2: I'm gonna play.

1149
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna play some sound from the Great Kidd,

1150
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: one of the greatest point guards of all time, head

1151
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 1: coach of the Dallas Mavericks.

1152
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:46,399
Speaker 2: He was asked about Cooper Flag Rookie Wall. Look, let

1153
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 2: me fire this up for you guys.

1154
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 4: Hear this quickly. When I heard this, brother has brought me.

1155
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,240
Speaker 4: It's brought me back to some other times, some other coaches.

1156
00:50:54,800 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 3: Conversation with do that to you got you got that's

1157
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 3: just ok, hold over it, through it or around it.

1158
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 2: Jeez, it's just understand that.

1159
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 3: Just like uncomfortable, it's gonna be uncomfortable.

1160
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 1: Jeez, jac Man, Jesus is that foul and no foul about.

1161
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 2: Lord have mercy.

1162
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 4: He's got a hold and He's got a comfort the

1163
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 4: touch of rubbing it that wall, brother, around it.

1164
00:51:55,200 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 1: Is, this is wild, this is that take ever sertain

1165
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 1: way around it.

1166
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 3: Hold it.

1167
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 4: When I heard him say this, it's like there's certain

1168
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 4: coaches embrace it. You just it's hard to like not

1169
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 4: laugh at certain ship.

1170
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 5: But I feel like I had a couple of coaches

1171
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 5: that would purposely say, oh, you lost it, bro, Oh yeah,

1172
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,399
Speaker 5: And I'm like, Bro, you purposely trying to say, so washing, this.

1173
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 3: Is something you should tell your girl. I think, like,

1174
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 3: not your player, right, did you hit a rookie wall?

1175
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 3: I had a little slump because I sprang my ankle.

1176
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 3: It was the ankle I spranged when I kept playing

1177
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 3: because it was a fifty game season. Oh yeah, it

1178
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:39,320
Speaker 3: was a lockout lockout and I was like, there's no game,

1179
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.

1180
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 2: So so you didn't.

1181
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:42,919
Speaker 3: Even get a chance.

1182
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 1: And like we do see this with a lot of

1183
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 1: young guys, Danny, where like it gets to a point

1184
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 1: in the season where it's just like, all right, you.

1185
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 4: You know, I don't know if it's such as his

1186
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 4: usage rate, bro, Like you see and it's.

1187
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: Like you played thirty something games in college and you're

1188
00:52:58,239 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 1: already up to that.

1189
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 2: Basically by January.

1190
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've already surpassed college output from the year before,

1191
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 1: and then there's three more months of this season to go.

1192
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 5: You know, it takes some time for your mental to

1193
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 5: be conditioned to go through the NBA season and prepare

1194
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 5: for playoffs. Even that's some guys, Evenve's hit the ball.

1195
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 5: Some guys I never played winning basketball or played in

1196
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 5: the playoffs. There's some guys that never played playoffs. When

1197
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 5: against the playoffs, that's why they say, you know, they're

1198
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 5: not experienced enough because they haven't been in the playoffs yet.

1199
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Like they got to lose

1200
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 5: first and actually go through the playoffs and know what

1201
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 5: it's like to be in a mental series with a group.

1202
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 5: It was like Minnesota had gone some losses. Okay, see

1203
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 5: I thought last year, like they're gonna need it's gonna

1204
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 5: take them a year to actually have that that endurance,

1205
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 5: and they had some playoff You need some emotional and

1206
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 5: mental endurance to like just to gauge, you know what

1207
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 5: it's like to do it and lose through it first

1208
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:51,879
Speaker 5: to know what it's like to win.

1209
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 2: I think even Edgecombe, he started off really hot.

1210
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: He had a little lull after that and now he's

1211
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: back to back, but he did very like you know,

1212
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 1: three four weeks into it.

1213
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, he's not dropping twenty's.

1214
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 5: But they're also up and down as a group, like

1215
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 5: Joel coming out, you know, guys and.

1216
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 2: Rookie to adjust to.

1217
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 5: You know, sometimes he's got the ball in his head.

1218
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 5: Sometimes there's nope, no Quinn Grimes is here. We got

1219
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 5: you know, jam McCaine back now, so we're gonna you know,

1220
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:21,280
Speaker 5: if you had.

1221
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 1: To guess, even for today's players, what is the hardest

1222
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: thing for them to adjust to adapt to coming into

1223
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 1: the NBA coming out of one year of college a

1224
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 1: bunch of AAU ball, maybe a couple of like you know,

1225
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 1: under seventeen USA select team ball for like the best players,

1226
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:41,879
Speaker 1: what do you think it's the toughest.

1227
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 2: Thing that they even have to learn or adjust to

1228
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 2: as young guys.

1229
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 3: Well, the toughest thing for me was just the travel

1230
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 3: every week, because you wasn't traveling like this in college,

1231
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 3: and so it can kind of break your routine because

1232
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 3: like you got a certain routine at home, but then

1233
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,040
Speaker 3: like when you travel so much in a row, you

1234
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 3: eat certain type of foods and it's hard to get

1235
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 3: what you really want to like, it's like that, that

1236
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 3: kind of so you gotta figure out a new routine

1237
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:08,879
Speaker 3: when you get to the league that's good for you,

1238
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 3: and especially when there's more games. Think about this, so

1239
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 3: like you travel, say you play a game, you got

1240
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 3: a game the next night. You travel that, now you

1241
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 3: might not get into a three four in the morning.

1242
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 3: So the adjustment is like, damn my sleeping pattern. Like

1243
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 3: I'm used to getting up at eight nine, and now

1244
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 3: I'm getting up at ten eleven, and now I'm like,

1245
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 3: what do I What time do I eat? It's like

1246
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 3: a rhythm, like a routine, so it throws it a

1247
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 3: little off. And so that's the one thing, just adjusting

1248
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 3: that pattern of things, like when I get in at four,

1249
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:38,879
Speaker 3: this is gonna be my pattern. Now when I do that,

1250
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 3: when I get in at normal hour, getting back to

1251
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,800
Speaker 3: the same rhythm. So you just got to make those adjustments.

1252
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:46,839
Speaker 5: I'll say that's part of it, but for me it

1253
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 5: was it was like what I was just saying, like

1254
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 5: the mental endurance, but it's like not just the speed

1255
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 5: of the game, but the speed of the like the

1256
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 5: thinking part of the game.

1257
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 1: Of how quick you have executing on a possession of

1258
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 1: that's how everything.

1259
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 5: And it gets repetitive and over just mentally not getting

1260
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 5: fatigued from watching film every day, doing the same things

1261
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 5: walk through every day and just getting conditioned to it

1262
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,280
Speaker 5: and used to it. And there was a point where

1263
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 5: I used to watch basketball all the time, and I'm like,

1264
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 5: if I continue to do this, I'm gonna get burnt out.

1265
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,319
Speaker 5: So I was like, when I go home, because you're

1266
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 5: every day, I'm gonna watch everything else, CV series, show

1267
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,320
Speaker 5: something else. It's like, because if I continue to watch basketball,

1268
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be dead tired of basket. When we burnt down,

1269
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna last long because it's mentally it just

1270
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,359
Speaker 5: wears on you. And then once you become a part

1271
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 5: of a winning group, now it's like there's a whole

1272
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 5: other season in the playoffs. So your mental fatigue has

1273
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 5: to be your endurance has to be even stronger. So

1274
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 5: just adapt and adjusting to that and the speed of

1275
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 5: thinking the game, because it said you gotta know everybody

1276
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:47,800
Speaker 5: on the floor as a defender, on who you're closing

1277
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 5: out to, who what their strengths are with the weaknesses

1278
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 5: are kyp is everything, and then how you what your

1279
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 5: philosophies are as a group, as how you're guarding with

1280
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 5: this other group. All right, what we do, we're sending

1281
00:56:58,000 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 5: this this guy here right left him. You gotta know

1282
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 5: everybody and you have to know that within five point

1283
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 5: five seconds of closing out somebody running around or because

1284
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 5: you're not gonna match up the same guy every time

1285
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 5: down the floor and offensively what it sets.

1286
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 4: It's a lot of games within the game, but it.

1287
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 5: All comes down to just the mental endurance of not

1288
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 5: getting fatigued by.

1289
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 2: I remember.

1290
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 1: Stan Van Gundy was calling a game and he was explaining,

1291
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 1: like there's no really good players who.

1292
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 2: Aren't thinking the game.

1293
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 1: You know, like some guys can contribute, Like you can

1294
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 1: have a JaVale McGee say no disrespect, but like who's

1295
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 1: not Like we're not accusing him of being a chess

1296
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 1: player in like a Yo kich in terms of the

1297
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 1: chess match, but you can still contribute.

1298
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 2: But like in order to like really affect the game,

1299
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 2: you have to be mentally on it.

1300
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 5: There's very few guys you're saying that can affect the

1301
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 5: game with just their talent and know the IQ. And

1302
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 5: there's a reason why a lot of low IQ guys

1303
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 5: are not getting You're like, oh, I just gotta not

1304
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 5: get minutes?

1305
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 4: Why is this not guy?

1306
00:57:57,920 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 3: Get it?

1307
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 4: You can't fit in that coach a coach.

1308
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 5: He can be really good, shoot a really good score,

1309
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 5: a really good, really good athlete, but he's not picking

1310
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 5: up with the coaches trying to tell him. He's not

1311
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 5: stressing it and he just doesn't have the IQ and

1312
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 5: he's not thinking it fast enough.

1313
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 4: He's just in his own agenda.

1314
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 1: Well, shit, man on that note, man, y'all better thank

1315
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 1: the game, use that nogging. We want to thank everybody

1316
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 1: who's been checking in with us every single episode, sharing

1317
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 1: our stuff, commenting on our stuff, Like, we appreciate all

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