1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: We will come in you sent gonna way I get 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: to saying you a conscious. 3 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 2: Will be. 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: High teal and if you want a little banging a y, 5 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 1: I come along. The smugglers propaganda is false. Let me 6 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 1: be clear. Our border is not open and will not 7 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: be open after May eleventh. Congress and Omar, where are 8 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: Congress from? Omar? There you go? Got too many jobs 9 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: in this country? 10 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 2: Are you serious? Traido is back in style. Welcome to 11 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 2: the revolution that will. 12 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: Coming to your sentence going the way I get those 13 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: and saying you a conscious song. Sean Hennity Show more 14 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: him the scene's information on freaking news and more bold 15 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: inspired solutions for America. Hight Hour two Sean Hannity Show 16 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: told free it's eight hundred and ninety four one Sean. 17 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: If you want to be a part of the program. 18 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: I actually am really happy to be able to make 19 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:17,279 Speaker 1: this announcement because he's been so great on the issue 20 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: of COVID and he's been a voice of sanity throughout 21 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: the entire pandemic. And it's Senator ram Paul, Doctor ram Paul. 22 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: And anyway, he's going to release a book later this 23 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: year that will focus on the origins of the coronavirus 24 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: pandemic wu Hondrology Lab, just saying and also argue that 25 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: the NIH and director Fauci deceived the entire world about this. 26 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: The title of the book, I love, it's called Deception, 27 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: the Great COVID cover Up. I don't even know if 28 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: there's a link on Amazon yet, Is there, Linda, is 29 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: there any link there? If it is, well, there is 30 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: a link, and we will put it up for the 31 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: good doctor. Put it up on Hannity dot com, Amazon 32 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: dot com. I want to first edition print edition signed 33 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: by doctor Ren Paul who joins us. Now, sir, how 34 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:09,519 Speaker 1: are you very good? 35 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 2: Sean? Thanks for having me. You know, you're exactly right. 36 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 2: The cover up began in China, which we kind of expect. 37 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 2: That's a totalitarian government, we expect them to cover up. 38 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 2: But then as we look deeper, as we probe for answers, 39 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 2: the Chinese were not helping us. But now that was 40 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 2: the US government, because the US government had been funding 41 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 2: this research, and so throughout the deep state people say, oh, 42 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 2: the deep state is a myth. Well, the deep state 43 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 2: is all the people in the bureaucracy who circle their 44 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 2: wagons and who basically funded this research. And now they 45 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 2: don't want to reveal it. The State Department funded a 46 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 2: lot of this research, and I've been rounded round with 47 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 2: Tony Blinken, the Secretary of State, and with two under secretaries, 48 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,959 Speaker 2: and they won't divulge the information. All I'm asking for 49 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 2: is the grants of the money they gave to Wuhan. 50 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 2: And they're acting like it's top secret. None of it's classified, 51 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 2: and yet they're resisting letting me see. 52 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: Well, if it's not classified, they won't let you see it. 53 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: Then there is something called congressional oversight. There is a 54 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: principle called checks and balances, Senator, So that's a croc 55 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: to me. But we now know this. You know, I 56 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: was actually in the beginning, I would even say I 57 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 1: this hit everybody out of the blue, the fact that 58 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: some mistakes were made I gave. You know, I can 59 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: understand that because we didn't know what we were dealing with. 60 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: But now when we find out that in January twenty twenty, 61 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: you know, in the earliest days, there's this furious, you know, 62 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: email back and forth with the top officials at the NIH, 63 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: and and later the Intercept got more information, and then 64 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: we got the NIH emails themselves they are panic because 65 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: they knew that they had given money to the Eco 66 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: Health Alliance. They knew that this was taxpayer dollars. They 67 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: knew that it went to the Wuhan Virology Lab, and 68 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: they knew the game function research and coronavirus research took 69 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: place there. So that now knowing that and all the 70 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: people that died in this country and died around the world, 71 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: should infuriate everybody. 72 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 2: See, not only did they know that they had funded 73 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 2: gain of function research, Falci for years had publicly been 74 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 2: the most well known advocate of gain of function research, 75 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 2: But they funded the research. They denied that, but when 76 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 2: they were caught red handed funding it, they also were 77 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 2: caught red handed avoiding the controls that were supposed to 78 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 2: scrutinize this type of research to see if it should 79 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 2: be funded. So back in twenty fourteen, they set up 80 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 2: a committee, and the committee was supposed to look at 81 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 2: research and say, is this gain of function too dangerous 82 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 2: to be performed? What turns out there was one way 83 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,679 Speaker 2: around the committee. Falci could give you an exception. So really, 84 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 2: not only did he fund it, not only did he 85 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 2: advocate for it. In all likelihood, it looks like he 86 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 2: specifically gave them permission to evade any kind of evaluation 87 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 2: of s before this happened. So, yeah, he's got blood 88 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 2: on his hands. He's responsible, he's culpable, and he to 89 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 2: this day refuses es to acknowledge his share of the 90 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 2: guilt in what happened. 91 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 1: You know, I mean, you have had these now infamous 92 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: or famous exchanges with him, but emails tell a very 93 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: very different story. And this is the same Fauci. I 94 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 1: believe the year was twenty twelve when he said that 95 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: he would support gain of function research even if it 96 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: resulted in a worldwide pandemic. So we know where his 97 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: mindset is on this, don't we Yeah. 98 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 2: And that's a judgment call that even if you gave 99 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 2: him the benefit of doubt and say, well, you know, 100 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 2: he's not evil, he's not bad. But the judgment, the 101 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 2: judgment call of saying, yeah, we should fund this research, 102 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 2: even if we should, we cause a pandemic, so now 103 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 2: we'll see what happens. This was a pandemic that killed 104 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 2: less than one percent of the people, but turned out 105 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 2: to be maybe twenty million people worldwide, about a million 106 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 2: people in our country. Think if this would have been 107 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 2: five percent of the country dying or ten percent or 108 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 2: fifty percent. So you know, we should be thinking this 109 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 2: through in every research proposal that proposes viruses that could 110 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 2: get out, that are newly created, never seen in nature, 111 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 2: should without question be scrutinized very carefully by some sort 112 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 2: of safety committee. But Fauci in the end gave them exemption. 113 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 2: They went around the committee. He said, this is not 114 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 2: gain of function. They don't have to go before the committee. 115 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 2: But that's what the committee was set up to determine. 116 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 2: Is it gain of function? Is it dangerous? He just 117 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 2: said preemptively, they're not. And it turns out that this 118 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 2: is the kind of research that in all likelihood did 119 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 2: lead to one of the worst pandemics in world history. 120 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: Well, and we can't. If we don't learn from history, 121 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 1: we're doomed to repeat it. And I don't. By the way, 122 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: did you read that the Maderner CEO made four hundred 123 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 1: million dollars off that vaccine? Did you read that? 124 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 2: Well? 125 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: What the hell is that? 126 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 2: Then? So did the NIS. You realize the NIH was 127 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 2: paid four hundred million dollars. So how can they be objective? 128 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 2: How can Anthony Vauci be objective in mandating you take 129 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 2: a vaccine that his company, nih is part of government, 130 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 2: got four hundred million. They're all conflicted because they can't 131 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 2: be honest whether you need a vaccine. When they get 132 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 2: more money, the money flows through to the researchers, flows 133 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 2: through to their salaries. They're all conflicted. They should none 134 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 2: of them should be involved with any determinations of whether 135 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 2: a vaccine should be mandated because they're all making money 136 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 2: off of it. 137 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: It's really unbelievable to me. I'd be negligent if I 138 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: don't ask you about a series of issues that are 139 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: now going on. As you know, Hunter Biden. The rumors 140 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: are that his arrest is potentially imminent, that he will 141 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: be indicted on charges involving tax violations and lying on 142 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: a gun application. But I think the bigger issue is 143 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: that Joe Biden himself has now been directly implicated in 144 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: what would be a serious crime. We have an now 145 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: we have now a brand new, legally protected, highly credible 146 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: whistleblower disclosure. This could be the biggest story of the year. 147 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: And according to the bombshell disclosure detailed by your colleague, 148 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: Senator Charles Grassley and Congressman James Comer, both the DOJ 149 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: and the FBI are in possession of evidence that they 150 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: believe would prove that Joe Biden took foreign bribes. This 151 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: document quote describes an alleged criminal scheme involving then Vice 152 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 1: President Biden and a foreign national relating to the exchange 153 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: of money for policy decisions. And I'm reading directly from 154 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: the letter that Grassley and Comer wrote themselves. In other words, 155 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: the very definition of a high crime, felony, misdemeanor, whatever 156 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: you want to call it, would result in obvious impeachment 157 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: and even far worse. What is your reaction to that news? 158 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 2: You know, you say rumors of hunter Biden's arrest is imminent. 159 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 2: I'm kind of reminded of Mark who said, you know, 160 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 2: rumors of his death were premature. 161 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: I know, but in this case, I actually think it's real. 162 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 1: I think the irs whistleblower accelerated the urgency to do 163 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: something because there was so much incoming fire, and they 164 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: went for the low hanging fruit. 165 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,719 Speaker 2: I hope there is a sense of justice, and I 166 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 2: think what most Americans want is that if you're a 167 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 2: Republican or a Democrat, there should be one set of 168 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 2: justice and by a lot of appearances over the last 169 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 2: few years, it appears as if the Biden family is 170 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 2: above any kind of equal treatment under the law, that 171 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 2: they get special treatment under the law. So by all appearances, 172 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 2: by lots of evidence that's come out, it appears that 173 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 2: Hunter Biden's guilty of a lot of things. You remember 174 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 2: what they threw the book at Matafort for foreign activities 175 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:49,719 Speaker 2: without registering as an agent, so they put him in 176 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 2: prison for life. 177 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 1: I keep reading that Hunter Biden did all those foreign business, 178 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: had all these foreign business dealings and didn't register himself. 179 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I mean, how could that be the same 180 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 2: set of justice? You know, he has guns that aren't registered. 181 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 2: He's doing all of these things that break laws that 182 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 2: any Republican does. They throw the book at So well, he. 183 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: Lied on the gun application, just to be very specific here, 184 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 1: that's what it was. 185 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 2: You're right, yep. 186 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: But now this is my question because I do not 187 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: believe we have equal justice under the law in this 188 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 1: country anymore today. I don't think we have equal application 189 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: of our laws. And if that's the case, if we 190 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: don't get this straightened out, you might as well take 191 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: that document that I know you love called the Constitution. 192 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: Senator and just shred it because it's meaningless. 193 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is something that we all worry about. 194 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 2: It's something I hear about every day people come up 195 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 2: to the moving the airport. I'll be in the airport 196 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:45,719 Speaker 2: in the next thirty minutes. As I'm in there for 197 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 2: people will come up and they will truly look at 198 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 2: me with sadness in their eyes and say they're worried 199 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 2: about our country, that there isn't equal justice anymore, that 200 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 2: people are being targeted for their religious beliefs, targeted for 201 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 2: their political beliefs. And that's a sad state of affairs. 202 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 2: But it doesn't mean we give up. We have to 203 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 2: take our country back, take our judicial system back, and 204 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 2: make sure And I tell you the absolute truth, I 205 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 2: see people exactly the same no matter which party they're in, 206 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 2: if it's an abuse of executive power. I was an 207 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 2: equal parts critic of President Trump on occasion, as I 208 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 2: have been to President Biden. But we need more of that. 209 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 2: Did people see what is right and proper and constitutional 210 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 2: as opposed to what's republican or what is Democrat. 211 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: Well, it's going to be interesting. I mean I can 212 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: give you one example you have for the president when 213 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: he was vice president, after the time he was vice president, 214 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: bragging on tape that he leveraged one billion taxpayer dollars 215 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: to get a prosecutor in Ukraine fired. Turns out that 216 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: prosecutor was investigating his son, who even went on Good 217 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: Morning America and admitted he had no experience in Ukraine, 218 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,839 Speaker 1: no experience in oil, no experience in gas or coal 219 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: or energy at all. And yet they're paying him a fortune. 220 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: You know why about a vice president leverage a billion 221 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: taxpayer dollars to get a prosecutor fired in six hours 222 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: and he accomplished it. How is that not a quid 223 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: pro quo? 224 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 2: When we look at this, the traditional argument would be 225 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 2: people on the Biden side would make the arguments for 226 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 2: why it is and so, and the facts indicate something different. 227 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 2: They don't make that argument anymore now. They make the 228 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 2: argument that any facts that seem to implicate a Democrat 229 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 2: are misinformation or disinformation, or they're spread by the Russians. 230 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 2: And we're not going to counter the argument. We're just 231 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 2: going to simply tell you it's untrue. We're going to 232 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 2: take it down from the Internet, and we're not going 233 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 2: to report on it from the mainstream media. So this 234 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 2: is a real problem. We no longer have the debate 235 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 2: back and forth. We simply have the oh, it's a 236 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 2: lie and it's not true. And we even have fifty 237 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 2: some odd intelligent former intelligence officers, high ranking, signing a 238 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 2: document that was an out and out lie, and yet 239 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 2: most of them are still employed by CNN and MSNBC. 240 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 2: They're analysts. They're disgraced, some of them have been fired, 241 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 2: some of them have been kicked out of the intelligence agencies. 242 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 2: But many of them signed a document those out and 243 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 2: out live and yet they're put on television on their 244 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 2: daily fashion as somehow upholding and reporting to tell the 245 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 2: truth of or comment on facts, when they're actually dishonest individuals. 246 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 1: Well, then explain this to me, Senator, because I can't 247 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: figure it out. We know that the FBI had a 248 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 1: copy of Hunter Biden's laptop in December of twenty nineteen, 249 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: that's eleven months before the twenty twenty election. Now I've 250 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: not corroborated this, but John Solomon reported that they verified 251 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: the authenticity of that laptop in the spring of twenty twenty. 252 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: Then it raises the question, if that's the case, why 253 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: did Yoll Wroth in a case in Missouri, who was 254 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: the former integrity site head at Twitter before Elon must 255 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 1: took over. 256 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 2: That. 257 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: In fact, when they had these weekly meetings with the FBI, 258 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: meaning big tech including Twitter, that they warned them that 259 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: they might be victims of a misinformation campaign and Yo 260 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: Raw said, yeah, they told us it might even be 261 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: about Joe Biden, or it might be about Hunter Biden. Now, 262 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 1: the FBI also knew that Rudy Giuliani, then President Trump's attorney, 263 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: had a copy and that was likely going to come out, 264 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 1: and then that entire story was censored by the New 265 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: York Post. The lead up in the weeks before is 266 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: that the FBI put in their cinder blocks on the 267 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: scales of an election. 268 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and this is the problem we face now. We've 269 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 2: graduated from a political debate society where we debate the 270 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 2: facts on each side to if I don't like your facts, 271 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 2: I'm just going to call you a liar, and I'm 272 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 2: going to say the Russians made up the stuff that 273 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 2: you're saying. And this is a real problem because it's 274 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 2: getting to the point where people are searching out and 275 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 2: seeking truth. I think people are still able to find it, 276 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 2: but what if we eventually get to a point where 277 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 2: half the country believes one thing, half the country believes 278 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 2: the other thing, and they think the only way to 279 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 2: settle things since there is no justice system unless your 280 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 2: team's in power. When your team's not in power, what 281 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 2: do you do do people take just in their own hands? 282 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: God forbid. I mean, we can have that happen. But Senator, 283 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: how do you reconcile the vast differences the people that 284 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: want to defund, dismantle the police department, no bail laws, 285 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: the people that don't want any domestic energy production, the 286 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: people that are perfectly happy that we have a recruiter 287 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: hired by the Navy that is a transactivist. While China 288 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: is building all the weaponry in the world and creating 289 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: a new access of evil with Russia and Iran, and 290 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: even the Saudis have joined in and partnered with Iran 291 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: and China and Russia. The UAE has abandoned US, Egypt 292 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: now abandoning us and going along with Vladimir Putin. The 293 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: world is being changed right before our eyes. And these 294 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: are not good people, good countries. These are evil actors 295 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: on the world stage. It should fear every American. 296 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think one of the things we have to 297 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 2: separate out is between our levels of engagement with the 298 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 2: countries and how we want to go. So, for example, 299 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 2: with Saudi Arabia, I was very unhappy, angry, still a 300 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 2: mat about them killing Koshogi and being a member of 301 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 2: the government, and so I really have voted often more 302 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 2: than once not to sell them arms. But at the 303 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 2: same time, my anger with Saudi Arabia doesn't extend to 304 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 2: the point where i'd before an embargo or not trading 305 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 2: with them. So I think you can go too far 306 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 2: with your anger such that you push them into the 307 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 2: arms of other countries. 308 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: All right, quick break right back. Rampaul will stay with 309 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: us a little longer on the other side. Eight hundred 310 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: and ninety four one sewn is our number. If you 311 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: want to be a part of the program, Quick break 312 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: right back more with Rampaul on the other side. As 313 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: we continue, Senator Rampaul remains for a few minutes with us. 314 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: He's writing a brand new book. I can't wait to 315 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: read this, The Sception, the Great COVID cover Up. And 316 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: by the way, if you want a first print edition copy, 317 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: it's coming out in a couple of months. Just go 318 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: to Amazon. Dot com Orhannity dot com, and he is 319 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: taking on Anthony Fauci and China and the Wuhan virology 320 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: lab and the origins of COVID and gain a function 321 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,719 Speaker 1: and how often we were lied to. All right, but Senator, 322 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 1: we're talking about equal justice, equal application of our laws, 323 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: and it's very, very scary to me. I want to 324 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 1: go back to this issue we were just talking about, 325 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 1: and that is the FBI had the laptop in twenty nineteen. 326 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 1: Now they could have verified the authenticity of it. I'm 327 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 1: guessing in forty eight seventy two hours. I would assume 328 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 1: the FBI has top computer people, don't you think. 329 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, without question, I think they knew within a day 330 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 2: or two. Sore. It's without question a cover up, It, 331 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 2: without question protecting powerful people. But it's coming from an 332 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 2: agency where there's been a lot of evidence that they've 333 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 2: specifically gone out and targeted people on the right who 334 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 2: have been prosecuted. I mean, if you really want to 335 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 2: look at the sense of how different the justice is, 336 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 2: look back to the trespassers who trespassed during the Kavanaugh hearings. 337 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 2: Yet one hundred women or more in the Heart building 338 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 2: the Senate Heart building, writhing on the floor, yelling and 339 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 2: screaming and disrupting the place. And they were arrested for trespassing. 340 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 2: But you know what, they got a traffic ticket or nothing. 341 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 2: I don't think they got anything, but they were told 342 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 2: and made to leave the building. That's sort of appropriate. 343 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: So they have the laptop, they know it's likely going 344 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: to be leaked. And then the FBI and the months 345 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: leading up to the twenty twenty election, our meeting with 346 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: big tech companies, and in the testimony in Missouri, the 347 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 1: head of site integrity for Twitter at the time, you'll 348 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 1: raw with the acknowledges that, yeah, they warned us that 349 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 1: this misinformation campaign that we might be a victim of 350 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: might be on Hunter Biden. So then the New York 351 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: Post breaks the story. Anthony Blincoln does his job and 352 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: he gets fifty one for more Intel people to say, oh, 353 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 1: it has all the earmarks of Russian disinformation. But more importantly, 354 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 1: you can't even share the story on any social media 355 00:18:54,440 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 1: platform because the FBI primed every big tech company to 356 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: thinking that this was all going to be phony. 357 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 2: Had realized. When the FBI goes to Twitter and tries 358 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 2: to suppress information, they go to Twitter, and they say 359 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 2: this needs to be suppressed, and critics says, oh, we'll 360 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:13,479 Speaker 2: do it, but can you pay us to suppress it? 361 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: They got three and a half million bucks from the FBI. 362 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 2: The federal government via the FBI going to Twitter saying 363 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 2: suppress knowledge of the Hunter Biden laptop, it might be disinformation, 364 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 2: suppress it, and Twitter saying, well, it's so much work 365 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 2: to do all this censorship, won't you at least pay us? 366 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 2: So basically they became an agent of the government. It's 367 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 2: obnoxious and really, whether you're on the left or the right, 368 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 2: you should be very, very worried. And I have a 369 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 2: bill coming out in the next couple of weeks that 370 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 2: will forbid the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security, the 371 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 2: disinformation groups, all these groups, will forbid them from meeting 372 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 2: with anybody in the media to discuss limitations or censorship 373 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 2: of protecting contu. 374 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: Do you think you can get any Democrats to support you, 375 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: because I would think not. 376 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 2: That's the hard part. And there are some progressive Democrats 377 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 2: who I have conversations with over civil liberties. They claim 378 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 2: to care about civil liberties, but you're right, they've lost 379 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 2: the ability to protect the first Amendment. If this were 380 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 2: nineteen sixty five, you would see them first in line 381 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 2: because the FBI was abusing the rights of African Americans, 382 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 2: war protesters, etc. But now they seem to only care 383 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 2: about whose rights are being abused. If some Republican or 384 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 2: some conservat or some pro life group as being abused, 385 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 2: they don't seem to care. And I just wish there 386 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 2: was more across the board support for the principles of 387 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 2: the bill rights instead of a selective outrage depending on 388 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 2: which party is involved. 389 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: I got to tell you, Senator, you're right on target. 390 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 1: These are really dangerous times. I know you've been a 391 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 1: critic of the US and involvement in Ukraine. What infuriates 392 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: me is I would not be against the United States 393 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: because we know that Vladimir Putin is evil. We know 394 00:20:56,840 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: he's targeted neighborhoods and a part men, buildings and infrastructure. 395 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 1: We know this is a sovereign country. I know they're 396 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 1: not a part of NATO. However, there's two prerequisites that 397 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 1: I have, and I wonder if you agree with me. 398 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 1: The first one has to be this is Europe. This 399 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: is their backyard, not ours. This is their continent. It's 400 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: not our continent, and the fact that they have paid 401 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: so little and put the burden financially on the United States, 402 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 1: and the fact that Joe Biden wouldn't even allow Poland 403 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: to give twenty eight MiGs to Zelenski tells me he's 404 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 1: not fighting a war to win a war. And if 405 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 1: they're not going to fight to win, and if Europe's 406 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:42,360 Speaker 1: not going to see the urgency for their own destinies 407 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: in play here, then I don't think we should be involved. 408 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 2: Without question, my sympathies are with Ukraine. My sympathies are 409 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 2: always with the underdog attacked by bigger, more aggressive outliers 410 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 2: coming across into their country, taking their land. But I'm 411 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 2: not for borrowing money from China to send it to Ukraine. 412 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 2: We have really no money to send to Ukraine. We 413 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 2: have to borrow it. It depletes our arsenals, it puts 414 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 2: us at risk. But also if you tell a country 415 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 2: you will give them unlimited arms, they're less likely to 416 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 2: ever begin the discussions for peace. My prediction is Russia 417 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 2: will not completely defeat Ukraine, but Ukraine will not completely 418 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 2: defeat Russia, and it'll be at a standstill for years, 419 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 2: and every year that it goes on, the country gets 420 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 2: further destroyed and the Ukrainian people are further destroyed. So really, 421 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 2: at some point in time when you have a stalemate, 422 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 2: there has to be a discussion and a debate for peace. 423 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 2: And I think unlimited weapons to Ukraine will make that 424 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 2: day farther and farther away, such as they'll be more 425 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 2: suffering and death. 426 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: You were as bvoried as I am about China's clear 427 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 1: territorial ambitions and it's alliance now with Russia, it's alliance 428 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: with Iran, brokering deals with the Saudis and the Iranians 429 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: and the Saudis and the Syrians. Are you as concerned 430 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: as I am that the UAE is now in bed 431 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: with Putin as is apparently Egypt based on leaked documents. 432 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 2: Yes, But I guess our approach might be slightly different 433 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 2: in that I am very much worried about what China's 434 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 2: plans are. I'm worried about the spread of the totalitarian government. 435 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 2: But I do think that if we end trade with 436 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 2: China and we continue to get well, the. 437 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: Fact is we can't because we're too dependent on them 438 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: right now. How stupid is that we do? 439 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,719 Speaker 2: But if we do I'm for more independence. I'm for 440 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 2: getting pharmaceutical chain over your chips. I'd give all kinds 441 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,439 Speaker 2: of tax breaks. But my point is this, if we 442 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 2: continue to separate ourselves, if we get to the point 443 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 2: where we embargo Chinese products and we don't deal with 444 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 2: them at all, we do push them further and further 445 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 2: away from us, and actually their expansionary tendencies may be worse. 446 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 2: So I am actually for continuing to trade. 447 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: I'm not saying to cut off all connections to China, 448 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: but I am saying, use this interim period to become 449 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: energy independent, to become self sufficient, to have our pharmaceutical 450 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: our medicines, our chips all made here. Do you have 451 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 1: any doubt that China's going to take Taiwan? Because I 452 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: have none, And I also predict that Joe Biden's not 453 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: going to lift a finger or do a thing. 454 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 2: So, for example, if you want to become more independent 455 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 2: in the pharmaceutical chain, what we should do is we 456 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 2: should lower taxes virtually to zero on domestically produced pharmaceuticals. 457 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 2: We could have all the pharmaceuticals we want. We have 458 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 2: the ingenuity, we have a capital, and we could do it. 459 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 2: If you'd lower the taxes virtually to zero. We used 460 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 2: to have virtually zero tax down in Puerto Rico and 461 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 2: we had a huge pharmaceutical industry down there. They got 462 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 2: rid of the tax breaks and the companies left and 463 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:41,199 Speaker 2: they went to Central America, South America, China, etc. So 464 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 2: we could have them back. Same with the chips industry. 465 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 2: But I don't want to do subsidies for billion dollar 466 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 2: chips company or billion dollar pharmaceutical companies. Tax breaks are 467 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 2: fine with me. If you want to get more domestic production, 468 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 2: we could do that. We could become stronger. It takes 469 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 2: a little while, but those are the things we should 470 00:24:58,680 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 2: do in the sumer. 471 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: All right, let me ask this. Let's assume that I'm right. 472 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 1: It's not a matter of If it's a matter of 473 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 1: when China takes Taiwan, what should the US response be. 474 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 2: I don't think it is inevitable, and I think that's 475 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 2: the first promise that's start with. It's a very difficult situation. 476 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:18,239 Speaker 2: We need to show the strength of character to YEA. 477 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 1: By the way, do you want to bet on this, 478 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: I'll give you one hundred drawing outs. 479 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 2: No. I think it's better not to speculate for something 480 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 2: terrible that we don't want to happen. 481 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 1: I don't want it to happen, but I think China's 482 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: made it very clear it's going to happen. Right. 483 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 2: But I think the best way, because there is no 484 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 2: easy solution to this, to what we're discussing, the best 485 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 2: way to try to deter that is to continue to 486 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 2: have diplomatic relations and trade relations with China. I think 487 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 2: if you want to protect Taiwan, there's a much better 488 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 2: chance that Taiwan is in danger by cutting off ties 489 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 2: with China. So I would have arms negotiations on nuclear weapons. 490 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 2: I would have ongoing arms negotiations. I would have communications 491 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 2: peer to peer. 492 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 1: Right, Senator, let me, I'm not sure to be rude. 493 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: We're friends, so I can do this. Okay, here's the problem. 494 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 1: We have a president that has no idea Today's Thursday. 495 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: They see this, our enemies see this, hostile regimes see this. 496 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: This is a huge problem. Senator Well, I. 497 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 2: Think what you saw when you had the President Trump 498 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 2: as the head of our diplomatic corps that they perceive strength. 499 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 2: So I think there is something about perceiving strength in 500 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 2: the commander in chief and perceiving that you know, he 501 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 2: may well just do something. 502 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 1: Oh they thought they're thinking, was he's crazy enough to 503 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: do it? I have no doubt about it exactly. 504 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 2: But along with that, though, you still have to have 505 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 2: diplomatic communications as well as trade and right now, for 506 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 2: about ten to fifteen years, China's become more belligerent, but 507 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 2: We've also become more belligerent, which happened first. There's sort 508 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 2: of coincident, and they keep getting worse, and our relations 509 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 2: with China are the worst they've been in a long time. 510 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 2: And that's not to say that it's all our fault, 511 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,640 Speaker 2: are all their fault. But the problem is is there 512 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 2: needs to be someone and I try to be that 513 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 2: voice of someone who believes that we should not have 514 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 2: an embargo, we should not be sanctioning everything that goes 515 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 2: on in China, or the reaction is is that we 516 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:13,919 Speaker 2: may bridge. 517 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,479 Speaker 1: Okay, let's just play a game, and let's pretend that 518 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 1: Hannity is right and you're wrong, and that they take Taiwan. 519 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,679 Speaker 1: What should the America's response be? 520 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 2: Then, Yeah, I think we will cross that bridge, and 521 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 2: hopefully we never have to cross that bridge. 522 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: It sounds like you're running for president with that answer, 523 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 1: but I think we're going to cross the bridge. I 524 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: wouldn't be pushing up if I didn't think that. 525 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, but here's the thing, Sean, are you willing to 526 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:37,479 Speaker 2: say on air today? 527 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: No, I'm not willing to send one US troop over there, 528 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 1: not one. 529 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 2: But then it's not easy just to stand up and say, well, 530 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 2: I'm not going to do that, but somehow I'm gonna 531 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 2: keep China from invading Taiwan. 532 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 1: No, I'm just trying to ask what will our response be? 533 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: What can it be? I mean, we need the chips 534 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 1: from Taiwan. You're right that we get our pharmaceuticals from China, 535 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: as well as so many other consumer products and everything else. 536 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 1: I mean, we are not prepared. Look, the nine to 537 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,360 Speaker 1: eleven Commission report said one thing I agreed with they 538 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,360 Speaker 1: were at war with us. We weren't at war with them. 539 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: China is now as hostile as they've ever been to 540 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 1: the US, and we're not perceiving, We're not picking up 541 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: on it. They're preparing for war and we have you know, 542 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 1: trans recruiting and trans story hour for military recruitment. They're 543 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: building bombs and weapons, hypersonic missiles, and that's what we're doing. 544 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 2: Let me interject the best way to deter China from 545 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 2: invading or taking over Taiwan is in the deterrence afterwards. 546 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 2: That there's not you know, there aren't a lot of 547 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 2: great options afterwards, and the deterrence has to be in 548 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 2: conversation and trade. And so if you say, we're going 549 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 2: to be more likely or less likely by For example, 550 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 2: many Republicans are saying we should place nuclear weapons in 551 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 2: Taiwan and in countries surrounding China. I think that's about 552 00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 2: the craziest thing I've ever heard. 553 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: To place them there and are you ready to use them? 554 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: Because if you're not ready to use them, don't put 555 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: them there. And if that happens, you know, all bets 556 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: are off what happens in the world. 557 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 2: People, the people wanting to place nuclear weapons in Taiwan 558 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 2: don't remember history. Do they remember the Cuban missile prizes? 559 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 2: What we did when mis Cuban, when nuclear missiles were 560 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 2: being placed ninety miles off our coast, YEP precipitate a war. 561 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 2: You put nuclear weapons in Taiwan, that will precipitate a war. 562 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 2: It's the dumbest idea I've ever heard, but I'm hearing 563 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 2: it every day. Of the Republican Caucus. I'm hearing it 564 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 2: every day upon many conservative circles. They want to stick 565 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 2: nuclear weapons into Taiwan now, thinking that will deter China 566 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 2: when in action. 567 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: Senator, I hate to say it, but Taiwan is a 568 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: partner and we've had this long standing relationship. But I 569 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: don't think that's an option because that will be viewed 570 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: as a hostile act by China, and I think their 571 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: weaponry may be more advanced than ours right now. I'm guessing. 572 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: I hope to God that I'm wrong about this, all right, Senator. 573 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: And Rampaul, by the way, he's going to have a 574 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: book released. He's writing it now. It's called Deception, the 575 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: Great COVID cover Up. It will deal with the origins 576 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 1: of COVID nineteen. It will deal with the lining the 577 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 1: NIH and Anthony Fauci and American tax dollars funneled through 578 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: the NIH to the EcoHealth Alliance that went to the 579 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: Wuhan Virology lab where we knew gain of function research 580 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: took place, and we knew coronavirus research took place, and 581 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: all of us were lied to. Senator Paul was the 582 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: first to point it out. Anyway, Amazon dot com Hannity 583 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: dot com. If you want to guarantee a first printed edition, Senator, 584 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: I expect an autograph copy, first print edition. 585 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 2: Sir, without question, in person. Thanks Sean. 586 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: I appreciate it anyway, Senator Around Paul on the Sean 587 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: Hannity Show, eight hundred nine four one, Sean our number 588 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: if you want to be a part of the program. 589 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: At the top of the next hour, man, what a 590 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: day this has been today, unbelievable. At the top of 591 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 1: the hour, Jim Jordan will join us with the House 592 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: Judiciary Committee. That's straight ahead.