1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: The Action Network Podcast. 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 2: Well, what's up, everybody? Welcome to the Action Network Podcast. 3 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,479 Speaker 2: I am your host, Evan Abrams, and I am joined 4 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 2: by Action Network NFL expert Chris Raybond to give some 5 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 2: draft grades today. But we're gonna do it a little 6 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 2: bit differently. But we'll get all to that in a second. 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 2: Ray Bond. What the heck is going on? Man? How 8 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 2: are you? 9 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: What's going on? 10 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 2: Evan? 11 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: Feeling good? Stowe's my favorite time of year when we 12 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: finally we get semi complete rosters to kind of break 13 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: down heading into camp and we can kind of break 14 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: down all of our ridiculously probably wrong in two years 15 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: opinions about you know, these draft grades and who do 16 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: well and who did poorly and whatnot. So looking forward 17 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 1: to it. 18 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd like nobody to look back at this episode 19 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 2: after today. Listen to it, enjoy it, but please don't 20 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 2: reference it, because you know, this one's a little difficult. 21 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 2: But we're gonna have some fun and we're gonna do 22 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 2: it a little bit differently. So we're gonna go by 23 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 2: conference just because it's easier, and we're gonna start with 24 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 2: the AFC. But I think what we're gonna do is 25 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 2: we're just gonna go buy categories. So we've got most 26 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 2: impactful picks, So we'll talk about the team, We'll talk 27 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 2: about the pick we thought was most impactful. There, we're 28 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 2: gonna go the pick surprised you the most, So another category, 29 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: you can go any pick you want. There, we're gonna 30 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 2: talk about big misses, so anything you think was you know, overvalued, 31 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 2: should have gone this way or the other. And then 32 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 2: finally we're gonna do something called message in a bottle, 33 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 2: which is basically us making a prediction on a player. 34 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 2: You know what, we'll think five ten years down the road. 35 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna let Raybond start off on each of 36 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 2: these categories and kind of follow up. So we're gonna 37 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 2: start with the AFC most impactful picks. You've got a 38 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 2: few teams here, Raybond, just start with the first and 39 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:44,479 Speaker 2: we'll roll from there. 40 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. So the first one I'm looking at is New 41 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: England's day one and two halls. So you got at 42 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: one oh four Will Campbell out of l FU to tackle. 43 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: Then you got Trevon Henderson, a running back. I got 44 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: to Ohio state a lot of speed in the second round. 45 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: In the third round, you go Kyle Williams, and he's 46 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: another guy wide receiver I think could start right away 47 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: and then end the third round with Jared Wilson in 48 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: interior alignment out of Georgia. So the reason I think 49 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,679 Speaker 1: these can be the most impactful. First of all, you 50 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: had four selections in the first two days. That's always great, 51 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 1: But I think getting a tackle for Drake May, getting another, 52 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: you know, high upside interior line prospect in Wilson, and 53 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: in between that, getting two guys who you could kind 54 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: of build your offense around at the skill positions in 55 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: Henderson and Williams, who you know, both have a lot 56 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: of quickness, a lot of speed. Those are the kind 57 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: of guys that are gonna keep defensive coordinators up at night. 58 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 1: And I thought, you know, Drake May was probably better 59 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: than a lot of people even realize if you were 60 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 1: kind of just casually found in the NFL, especially before 61 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: the playoffs got underway last year or whatnot. But Drake 62 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: May really had a very very solid year one, and 63 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: I thought what was missing was offensive line and difference 64 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: making playmakers, and New England, at least on paper, looks 65 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: to have gotten him those and droves in the first 66 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: couple of days of their draft. 67 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, literally, they were number one or number two on 68 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 2: my list. I mean eleven total picks. You could call 69 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 2: the entire Patriots off season theirs the most impactful thing. 70 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 2: Like at the moment, the difference between what they looked 71 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 2: like last year and this year is just completely and 72 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 2: utterly different. I think you know, they were talking about 73 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 2: it on the Favorites podcast, Chad and Simon, but even 74 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 2: the Patriots look like they're a different team, especially when 75 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 2: you see kind of the things that Jets have done, 76 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 2: what the Dolphins have done, Like, I feel like they're 77 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 2: going to be like competitive in some of these games, 78 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 2: and they were competitive last year with that team. So 79 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 2: I'm enthralled to see what May does in terms of 80 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 2: going forward. But I agree Campbell, Trevion Williams Wilson, I 81 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 2: think it was great and. 82 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: I want to give him a lot of credit to 83 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: because the other underrated thing about this Patriot team is 84 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: they've got a really good head coach now in Vrabel, 85 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: And I want to give them credit for Rabel known 86 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: as more of a defensive guys smash mouth football. They 87 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 1: resisted the urge at any point, you know, early in 88 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: the draft, maybe to you know, go deep. There was 89 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: a lot of edge rushers and guys like that, you know, 90 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: a lot of guys that they're at their picks that 91 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: maybe also presented value. But I like that they went 92 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: offense with those you know, important day one, day two selections, 93 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: and it's really going to make a difference, I think 94 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: right away on this roster. So really like what New 95 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: England's doing all the way around to your point, go 96 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: to your number two, all right, Denver. I thought they're 97 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: around one in two hauls were really interesting and kind 98 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 1: of flying under the radar a little bit because they 99 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 1: were maybe not what most prognosticators thought exactly they would do. 100 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: So the two picks I'm talking about in particular are 101 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: Jday Barron, the cornerback out of Texas. They went with 102 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: him at the you know, at one, and then R. J. Harvey, 103 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: the running back out of UCF. They go with him 104 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: in the second round. So I thought Barron was interesting 105 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: because they could have easily looked at you know, wide 106 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 1: receiver here. They could have easily looked at running back here, 107 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: you know, Mari and Hampton goes. I think a couple 108 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: of picks after but Baron, I thought was the best 109 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: player on the board. As that pickt he it's a 110 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: premium position. Cornerback is still you I know, they got certain, 111 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: but cornerback was still kind of up and down for 112 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: them around him last year, you know, Riley Moss would 113 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 1: get picked on. Mathis has had his struggles. So I 114 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: really think being able to draft a guy a high upside, 115 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 1: you know, first round type of cornerback talent for a 116 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: team that's trying to go head to head with the 117 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs and it's gonna have to play him 118 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: twice a year and then potentially knock them off in 119 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 1: the playoffs to ultimately reach their their their goals. I 120 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 1: thought that was a big, a big get, and especially 121 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: because if you kind of look at, you know, what 122 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: happened later on with the Chargers. You know, they draft 123 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: a couple of wide receivers, the Houston Texans draft a 124 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: couple of wide receivers. So all these other teams just 125 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: kind of in those competing playoff spots, you know, with Denver, 126 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: assuming Kansas City still the class of the division, which 127 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 1: it probably will be, I just thought, you know, resisting 128 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: the urge to maybe go with a skill guy, that 129 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: it would have been a little flashier. Was a great 130 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 1: pick and then getting Harvey. You know, the only other 131 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: times the Sean Payton coach teams have gone with a 132 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: running back before day three, And I know Harvey was 133 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: late on dates, you're all kind of middle, middle of 134 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: the way day two, but the only other times Reggie 135 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: Bush mark ingram Alvin Kamara. So it's no small thing. 136 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 2: You know. 137 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: They obviously value him very highly. He's and he's got 138 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: and he has a lot of those traits that you know, 139 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: I think when people were mocking a difference maker to 140 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: Denver in the first round at a skill position, they 141 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: were thinking about in Harvey. You know, he's the guy 142 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: who's just gonna make a lot of guys miss. I 143 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: think he's gonna he's gonna be one of those guys 144 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: that you can, uh, you know, do some different things 145 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: with in terms of moving around the formation, and he's 146 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: gonna be, uh, just one of those kind of chess pieces. 147 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: So I really like what Denver did. And for a 148 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: team that has its quarterback, has a coach and staff, 149 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: has some blue chip players, I just thought it was 150 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: a good, good kind of you know, I don't know 151 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: if they expected Barons to be on the board. But 152 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: I thought, you know, taking not letting him get past him, 153 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: even though maybe some people didn't have corner as the 154 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: number one position to need. Uh, it was really good. 155 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: And then coming back and getting a guy like Harvey 156 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: and not overpaying for running back like you know perhaps 157 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: some other teams did. Uh. Even though it was a 158 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: deep class, I thought it was really good for Denver. 159 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, you said some really interesting things there, and I 160 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:10,679 Speaker 2: think off the bat, I didn't think they thought Baron 161 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 2: would be available. So I mean, I think it's interesting 162 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 2: to think, oh, wow, they didn't take Hampton. Well maybe 163 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 2: they were like, we're gonna take Hampton. Oh wow, we 164 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 2: didn't think this guy would even be close to here. 165 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 2: I mean, he was supposed to be you know, maybe 166 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 2: they were talking about it like thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, so 167 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 2: you know, by the time we got to Denver, he 168 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 2: was still available, especially when Will Johnson was going to slide. 169 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 2: I think the interesting thing you always look back at is, Okay, 170 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 2: they decided to take the corner and then wait for Harvey. 171 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 2: We were always going to say they were going to 172 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 2: get the running back anyway. I think in future years 173 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 2: when handicapping the draft, Like we were right, Denver needed 174 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 2: a running back. They just decided to make the decision 175 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 2: not to take the blue chip guy early and went 176 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 2: around later and got another player. So it's like, will 177 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 2: they be right? We have to wait and see, but 178 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 2: it surely does make them deeper, right, it gets them 179 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 2: someone really good early on, which I'm going to talk 180 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 2: about in a second. But I like what Denver did. 181 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 2: I agree, all right, go to number three. 182 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: I would stay in the AFC West. I think Kansas 183 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: City getting offensive tackle Josh Simmons out of Ohio State 184 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: with the last pick of the first round could be 185 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: big because Kansas City is a team that, because of 186 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: how successful they are year in a year out, they 187 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: don't really get access to draft these top ten type talents. 188 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: And I think Simmons, you know, if he didn't have 189 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: the injury, he would have been in the front half 190 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: of this board in round one. He would have been 191 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: up there. Maybe Banks doesn't go as highly if a 192 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: guy like Simmons is completely healthy. So I thought for 193 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 1: them to get a talent like that, and you know, 194 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: a guy they didn't even expect to fall as far 195 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 1: as he did even with the injury. At number thirty 196 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: two is massive because we saw how you know, the 197 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: few times it hasn't gone you know, perfectly. In Patrick 198 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 1: Mahomes's young career. You talk about that Super Bowl against 199 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: the Bucks, you talk about that Super Bowl against the 200 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: Phodelphia Eagles last season, it's been because of the offensive 201 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: line for the most part. And you know, uh, Kansas 202 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: City already has wide receivers. They got the coach, they 203 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: got the quarterback. They'll figure it out at running back 204 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 1: one way or another. We saw them bring a guy 205 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: off the street last year. So tackle is really that 206 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,199 Speaker 1: position where if this guy hits and you know, they 207 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: have a longer season than most Kansas City like, they 208 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: generally go deep into the playoffs, so it's not even 209 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: like Simmons has to hit early on. You know, they 210 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: can afford to kind of even in year one. I 211 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: think he could make an impact and just adds some 212 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: sorely needed depths behind a guy like jaymen More, who 213 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: could also be a big, a big impactful signing if 214 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: he uh you know, is able to shore up that 215 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: that left tackle spot early on. But you know, they 216 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: got Jawan Taylor, they still got you know, guys like 217 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,719 Speaker 1: Morris and Cel Mattea like a lot of guys who 218 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: they just really I think weren't as comfortable playing as 219 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: many snaps as they did. So I think this this 220 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: pick right here, it was a position to need it. 221 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: I thought it was value and I think it's a 222 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,439 Speaker 1: high upside pick. So really like what Kansas City did 223 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: because remember, Kansas City's already there, so any little you know, 224 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: value they get, or if they hit on it, if 225 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: they get a star or in the first round or 226 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: a big getted position in need like that could just 227 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: change everything in the AFC because Kansas City is already 228 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: in such a powerful position in terms with Mahomes and 229 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,079 Speaker 1: Reed at the top. So I really liked what they 230 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: did with with Simmons there. 231 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like Simmons there. My pick I really like 232 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 2: is g Loot Ashons g Lot they took. Was it 233 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 2: third it was a third round? Yeah, I think third round. 234 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 2: But I mean karloftus Owming, you like, they've got already 235 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 2: people kind of in that position, but I like the 236 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 2: depth so him, They've also got Tillery and you know 237 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 2: Jones's you know, got a year or so left potentially, 238 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 2: But I do like that pick as well. So Kansas 239 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 2: City just tends to take at this point when you 240 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 2: have a lot of depth in things at different positions, 241 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 2: being able to take like the most talented guy or 242 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 2: someone who might have been an injury that falls to you. 243 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 2: I think, you know, kind of works to their bets. Okay, 244 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 2: so those are your most impactful. I'll kind of just 245 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 2: go through a few players and teams and you know, 246 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 2: quick thoughts here and you can kind of bounce stuff off. 247 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 2: I don't know how you don't say Travis Hunter, Like 248 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 2: I understand it's a stupid response to a degree, but 249 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 2: a guy that's probably going to play both sides also 250 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 2: considering I love this stat It's just the first non 251 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 2: QB to be traded up for into the top two 252 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 2: since the Rams and Raiders in ninety seven. Like, it's 253 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 2: been so long since we saw someone actually give up 254 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 2: something for a not quarterback and they thought to be 255 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 2: this much value in So I kind of can't not 256 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 2: say Travis Hunter. So I think in terms of the impact, 257 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 2: he's on the list, especially next to Thomas on the 258 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 2: wide receiver state. The other one's got to be cam 259 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 2: Ward as well, just because of how damn bad the 260 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 2: Titans were last year, Like from not only an on 261 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 2: the field standpoint with Levis, but also from a betting world, 262 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 2: like they ended up being the worst gambling team of 263 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 2: all time in terms of ats. So being able to 264 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 2: turn to someone who hopefully doesn't turn it over as 265 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 2: much gives them a competent offense. You know, you got locket, 266 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 2: you added some things, But I think quarterback most important position. 267 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 2: It's hard not to say Ward. I wanted to say 268 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 2: Buffalo as well. I actually like the Harston pick, not 269 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 2: only because it won me money for a multitude of reasons, 270 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:20,599 Speaker 2: parlays and all this stuff with the SEC, but I 271 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 2: actually like the player starting right cornerback other side of Benford, 272 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 2: ahead of White, Like I think they listen, they see 273 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 2: themselves in the playoffs, they see themselves in a AFC 274 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 2: title game against Kansas City or this or that. So 275 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 2: getting an extra corner or someone, especially with a little 276 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 2: bit of speed there, I like the pick. I could 277 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 2: stop there. I have like one or two more, but 278 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 2: any thoughts, Yeah. 279 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: I think the camp Ward pick. You know, that's obviously 280 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: gonna be a very impactful one to Tennessee. Now that division, 281 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of there's a lot of 282 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: volatility there right. You know, we saw Houston go for 283 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: Mike really good to just Okay, Indianapolis is always lurking there, 284 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: like you never know what their quarterbacks. It's like there's 285 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: just a lot of I think question marks in that division. 286 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: So uh, it's if cam Ward is kind of out 287 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 1: plays you know what people trying to think of them, 288 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: you know, relative toward other core prospects this decade or so. 289 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: I think that could be really impactful, not you know, 290 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: not just based on what they had last year, but 291 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: also just in terms of, uh, you know, maybe deciding 292 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: this division of this playoff or a playoff spot, because 293 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: Tennessee is kind of really an unknown, but they're coming 294 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: from a spot where you know, they got him, and 295 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: then they also had a pretty deep draft class as well, 296 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: they signed the veterans, So uh, this thing could turn 297 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: around into her, especially if a team like Indianapolis or 298 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: Jacksonville if it doesn't work out quite or uston, if 299 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: it doesn't work out quite the way you know, uh 300 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: they envisioned, because you know, Jacksonville gave up a lot 301 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: to go up and get Hunter. So uh yeah, I 302 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: do think that that cam Ward pick is pretty impactful 303 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: and and Buffalo. I mean, I think they have just 304 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: an impactful class, you know, both ways. Right, it's because 305 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: they went off with five defenders in their first five picks. 306 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: I believe it was. So you know, that's where they're 307 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: kind of saying that we needed to improve. And it's 308 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: not a bad strategy. Given Josh Allen, you're gonna you're 309 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: probably gonna be fine with Josh Allen either way. But 310 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: I think people are kind of correct to say, you know, hey, 311 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: at some at some point, maybe that you know your 312 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: wide receiver depth does come back to hurt you a 313 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: little bit because I remember when Josh Allen first really 314 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: took that step to being an elite quarterback, it was 315 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: Cole Beasley had really helped out a lot, you know, 316 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: getting up you know, John Brown and then Stefan Diggs. 317 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: You know, people forget John Brown really kind of added 318 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: to what they were doing there for that when that's 319 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: like a little one or two years. So now you're 320 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: kind of saying, Okay, Josh Allen is good enough to 321 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: carry us regardless of the receivers. And that's probably true, 322 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: but you're talking about small margins and you see a 323 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: team like Kansas City is pretty pretty loaded at wide receiver. 324 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: That's always a team that you're going to kind of 325 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: compare yourself to. You see the Chargers reading up, you 326 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: see you know, Denver kind of reading up at the 327 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: scope just in general. Even Baltimore trying to get better 328 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: at that, you know. So it's it's just you just 329 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: wonder if that comes back to bite them at any point. 330 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, you were right, Harriston, T J. Sanders, Landon Jackson, 331 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 2: Dean Walker. That's first one hundred and ten picks all defense. 332 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 2: So and I kind of like them all his prospects. 333 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 2: I agree Buffalo had a good draft. All right, let 334 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 2: me go two more here and then we'll get to 335 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 2: the picks that surprised you the most. It's just hard 336 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 2: for me not to say the Raiders in terms of 337 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 2: just their offense. When you add genty and you add Betch, 338 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 2: I think overall it's got to be better now. I 339 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 2: think there's questions all over the place with Gino and whatever, 340 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 2: but with Moster, McCormick, Zamir White, like Gentsy's gonna get 341 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 2: a ton of carries, like he is the bell Cow, 342 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 2: He'll be the guy. And I think Betch could help, 343 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 2: Like with Tree, Tucker and Jacobe Myers like, Yeah, I 344 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 2: think there's like some good upside there. So do I 345 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 2: like the Raiders? No, but I think impactful players on offense. 346 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 2: I think it's a decent draft. And then the Jets, like, 347 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 2: I guess my question is, did they get three starters 348 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 2: in the first three rounds with Membu, Taylor and Thomas Thomas? Maybe, 349 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 2: but Taylor and Membu were both going to be impactful 350 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 2: right away, so I have to say, you know, chets 351 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 2: have some work to do, but I do think they 352 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 2: got two or three starters here, which is nice. 353 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Jets had one of those kind of quiet 354 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: drafts that probably went about as well as it could 355 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 1: have in terms of just getting starters. It's just that, 356 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: unfortunately for them, this wasn't one of those drafts where 357 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: you had a lot of quarterback prospects, so you're gonna 358 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: have to kind of figure it out, you know, adjusted 359 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 1: fields and whatnot. But as far as what the positions 360 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: they did feel, I thought they got rocks olid guys 361 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: of the first three rounds. 362 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 2: All right, what picks surprised you the most? 363 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: All right, it has to be Shuldar Sanders. I mean, 364 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 1: so I was laughing because I actually ended up cashing 365 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: a bet Browns plus six fifty to draft your door 366 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 1: that I thought it was gonna hit in round two 367 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: and it ended up hitting in around five. Like, so 368 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,719 Speaker 1: that's that's kind of that shows you the surprise that 369 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: I had. I mean, listen, I didn't think he was 370 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: the first round prospect. We talked about it on the 371 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: Favorites that morning, but you know, for him to fall 372 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: all the way to round five, and even I would 373 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 1: say even the surprise of Cleveland drafting him after drafting 374 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: another quarterback in Gabriel Uh, you know, or just just 375 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 1: before that, is you know, kind it could kind of 376 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: create like you just had Deshaun Watson in this whole 377 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 1: media circus, right, And a lot of people were saying 378 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: part of not not the entire because I think it 379 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: mostly had to do it's his you know, on the 380 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 1: field play and future probably, but but yeah, you know, 381 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: some people saying maybe they added to it, you know, 382 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 1: just this potential media circus around things like that go 383 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: with it. And I just thought it was interesting that 384 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: now you have him as not even your first drafted quarterback, 385 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: but like he could be in the position to compete 386 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 1: for a starting job right away. It's just I just 387 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 1: found it surprised and that Cleveland would go there after 388 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: like fading him so many times early in the draft. 389 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 1: It could just seemed like, man, like this is this 390 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: is gonna be awkward, and now you're kind of back 391 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: with this media circus at quarterback in Cleveland one way 392 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: or another, and for a bunch of reasons that you 393 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 1: probably didn't even foresee heading into the draft, even if 394 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 1: you did take Shad or so that was that was 395 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 1: pretty surprising to me to see him still end up 396 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: in Cleveland. I get it, it was a value pick, saw 397 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not fully knocking it, but it's still 398 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 1: was just surprising after everything else that had went down. 399 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, so chadors at the top of my list too. 400 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know how he can't be. But 401 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 2: I think the question mostly is you take Gabriel in 402 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 2: the third round, which I'm going to talk about a 403 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 2: little bit later. I think Cleveland's entire draft is a 404 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 2: little questionable. Like I kind of felt like at different 405 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 2: times it felt like different people were making picks and 406 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 2: I don't know if that makes sense, But when you 407 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 2: look at like so you take this Schwestioninger pick was 408 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 2: a little questionable, like off ball linebacker. A little early, 409 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 2: they could have potentially gotten another linebacker. A little later, 410 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 2: they take Junkins Jenkins over Henderson. I love the Fannin pick, 411 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 2: but it kind of feels like a little bit like 412 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 2: you took Jenkins and then you take Samson. I loved 413 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,959 Speaker 2: the Sampson pick, so like in that sense, I liked 414 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 2: some and others felt a little odd at times. I 415 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 2: guess one theory I would say is do you think 416 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 2: they took Gabriel like Barry and Stefanski, and then ownership 417 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 2: was like, take Shador, Like the plan wasn't to take Shador. 418 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 2: Their plan was we like Dylan Gabriel, and for some reason, 419 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 2: I guess they liked him at that slot, but then 420 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 2: later on ownership was like, oh he's still there, we're 421 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 2: telling you to take him. So it's like, I think 422 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 2: it's weird if Barry and Stefanski were like, we're gonna 423 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 2: take two quarterbacks like that couldn't have been the plan, 424 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 2: especially with the room they have now. So I just 425 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 2: feel like I'm questioning who was making all of the 426 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 2: selections in that room. But that's the way I look 427 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,239 Speaker 2: at it, and I agree Shador was extremely questionable. Did 428 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 2: you have any more because I only had two more 429 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 2: in terms of being questionable or surprising. 430 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that was my big surprise. I don't think 431 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 1: anyone cud. I have some, you know, some misses that 432 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: we'll talk about next, but surprising. 433 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 2: It was front and side, all right, So I'll say 434 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 2: baron with Denver, and truthfully, just because I don't think 435 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 2: anybody expected them to go corner. They were actually thirty 436 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 2: four to one to draft a corner in the first round, 437 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 2: So I don't know how it can't be in this 438 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 2: lot when you talk about just being surprising, I don't 439 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 2: think it's bad, but I just think it was surprising. 440 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 2: And then the last one is, I mean Baltimore taking 441 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 2: a kicker. I don't know how surprising it is, but 442 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 2: it is, you know, probably the direction they might be heading, 443 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 2: so they take Loop at one eighty six, the kicker 444 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 2: from Arizona. We could talk about Baltimore in a second, 445 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 2: about some other stuff like I love Starks, I think 446 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 2: Green's has some upside, but taking the kicker, I feel like, 447 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 2: was it interesting? One that got pointed out by a 448 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,239 Speaker 2: lot of people. So those are my surprises. Any thoughts there, 449 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 2: if not, just start off with your missus. 450 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, let's going to missus. H. I think I'm 451 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: curious to hear your thoughts about this of an actually, 452 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 1: because I know you liked the player that they took first. 453 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 1: But when I look at it in both where the 454 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: player ranked in this current class and just in terms 455 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: of their overall haul, I do I do have question marks. 456 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: And so that's Miami going Kenneth Grant out of Michigan, 457 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 1: who I know you liked a lot and I think 458 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: won you some some money at at you know, one 459 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: thirteen and then right and then they and then they 460 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 1: end up getting you know, going back up in the 461 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: second round to get Jonah savlenea out of Arizona and 462 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 1: interior alignment, and that seemed like a need based kind 463 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: of pick, and Grant was as well, you know, but 464 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 1: I don't know if this was kind of the best 465 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 1: way to go about the draft for Miami, considering they 466 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: really didn't have much and like after this, you know, 467 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: it's it's mostly it's pretty much Day three guys and 468 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: fifth round guys. So I just I just questioned, did 469 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 1: they get enough of kind of did they balance out 470 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: kind of you know, going best player available or do 471 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: they go too hard for need and you've just not 472 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: come away with enough considering you're still probably gonna it 473 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 1: sounds like you're going to trade another bluet trip prospect 474 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: in in uh in Ramsey, Like, I just don't know what. 475 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: I don't know what Miami is. Miami seems stuck in 476 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: this purgatory, like I don't They don't, you know, because 477 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: you lost Armstead, but you know you didn't get a 478 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: tackle here even though you're drafted thirteenth and your defense 479 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: it wasn't the biggest issue. Uh So it's I can't 480 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,360 Speaker 1: not the Grant pick, you know, from from the from 481 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 1: the standpoint of you probably did need to fill that position. 482 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 1: But I don't know. Overall, I was just left very 483 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 1: unimpressed with Miami's draft of curiousness to your thugs. 484 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't love it at all. They were going 485 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 2: to be on some of my misses as well. I mean, 486 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 2: I loved Grant. I didn't think thirteen was an option. 487 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 2: If thirteen was an option, he should have been minus 488 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 2: two thousand to go in the first round, versus like 489 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 2: minus two twenty, which is where it was so I 490 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 2: think that was a little bit of a reach, but 491 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 2: I don't necessarily like that. That's not the point in 492 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 2: their draft where I say Miami went wrong, Like I'm 493 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 2: not going to say that's like an issue. They just 494 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 2: took someone they really liked that I liked, just a 495 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 2: little bit earlier than maybe they should have. They could 496 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 2: have traded back potentially. I think Jordan Phillips is a 497 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 2: little bit of a question mark there, Like a lot 498 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 2: of people had him ranked much later in the draft, 499 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 2: I believe, so I would have a question with that selection. 500 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 2: I think Jonah at the offensive line position is going 501 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 2: to start, So I don't have like a huge like, 502 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 2: you know, could they have gone another player at that 503 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 2: position potentially, But I think overall, I'll say I don't 504 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 2: really know what the Dolphins direction is at all on 505 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 2: any level. Like I don't like that in the division, 506 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 2: I don't think there's much value there. I kind of 507 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 2: already see a little bit of the end of this 508 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 2: era of the Dolphins a little bit, like maybe it's 509 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 2: not happening right now because you still have two, you 510 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 2: still have McDaniel, you still have Hill for the moment, 511 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 2: but I do kind of see it coming to an 512 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 2: end soon. And maybe I'm wrong, but I think I'm 513 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 2: that's something I'm foreseeing. 514 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was, there was a little head scratching, but 515 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: like you said, it's probably partially due to the fact 516 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: that it's just hard to get a read on exactly 517 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: what where the Dolphins, what they're doing, what they're what 518 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 1: they're what their view and vision is a long term 519 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 1: and you know, are they are they all in or 520 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: do they view themselves as like a true playoff contender, 521 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 1: do they need like a mini rebuild like what? It's 522 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: just hard to kind of get a sense of where 523 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: they are. 524 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 2: So, but I think the biggest difficulty is with these 525 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 2: three guys there still I think they're going for like 526 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 2: the super Bowl. I think that's the mindset while Tyreek, 527 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 2: McDaniel and two are still at the Helm, Like, I 528 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 2: think they think that's where they're at, which might be 529 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 2: hurting them because the rebuild might be easier, but that 530 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 2: you know, I think it's a mindset right now. 531 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. So, another team that has Super Bowl aspirations that 532 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:11,360 Speaker 1: didn't love the pick specifically, I'll talk about their first 533 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 1: round pick, and that's Bengals with Shamar Stewart out of 534 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: Texas A and M at the seventeenth pick of the 535 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: first round. Now it was in need, don't get me wrong. 536 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: So they made but you know, you can get in 537 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 1: trouble making need based picks. So first red flag to me, 538 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: who's the need based pick. The second red flag to 539 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 1: me was obviously just the lack of college production. You know, 540 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: this is all based on traits and upside and a projection. 541 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 1: Everyone's heard the you know, four and a half sacks 542 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: number quoted a million times. But also I think part 543 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: of why it also kind of raises a red flag 544 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: for me is it seemed like they avoided certain maybe 545 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 1: prior risk based mistakes that they've made by you know, 546 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: fading some of those other edge rushers that maybe had 547 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: some character issues or whatnot, and you know, you know, 548 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 1: they they were burned. They've been burned by that in 549 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 1: the past. I mean, even with a guy like Burton 550 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,199 Speaker 1: last season. So I thought they kind of avoided that 551 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: only to still make like kind of a risk, risky 552 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 1: pick just in another way, and it was still need based. 553 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 1: So you know, they left some good players on the 554 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 1: board at other positions. Even if you just look at 555 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball. I mean, you have 556 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: Jenay Barron on the board, you have Harmon on the board. 557 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 1: You know, if you open up the offense, there's even 558 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: more guys. So it's just I don't know if this 559 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: if this pick. Like I know, Cincinnati had to get 560 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 1: better on defense and specifically on the edge. They had 561 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: to find a successor for Hendrickson long term. I just 562 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: don't know if they took I think they might have 563 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 1: taken a little bit too much of a risk at 564 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 1: this spot, given who else was on the board, and 565 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 1: just given what we know about Stewart. 566 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the question you're going to ask in 567 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 2: the future is and looking at just some of the edges, 568 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 2: like maybe Pierce one a little early, but you know, 569 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 2: is there an opportunity to potentially either take someone like 570 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 2: Baron or trade back. And maybe we're wrong about Stuart. 571 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 2: I mean, he is an athletic freak, but the SAC 572 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 2: numbers and all the things that you're referring to just 573 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 2: aren't on the paper. But the tape looks great. And 574 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 2: I think he slid a little bit because I remember 575 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 2: his draft position being just around there. But people were 576 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 2: talking about him at least initially early, so I think 577 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 2: it all kind of hinges on how Stewart does do 578 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 2: for them, especially if Hendrickson isn't there anymore at some point, 579 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 2: so it is in need. But I do question kind 580 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 2: of the decision. And then when you go forward like 581 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 2: night Fairchild, I think, you know, moving on, they did fine. 582 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 2: I mean, nobody was in like the top one ten 583 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 2: or so in terms of rank profile, so they didn't 584 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 2: get anybody. Even Stewart wasn't I mean, because it's just 585 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 2: at that point the production wasn't there. So I think 586 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 2: I'm with you in terms of misses. I think Cincinnati 587 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 2: and Miami are pretty clear in that sense, and I 588 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 2: think a lot of people agree with us. 589 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 1: So what are we doing? Message about? Are you getting 590 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: more miss. 591 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 2: Let me roll through a few misses online pretty quickly. 592 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 2: So I love the Colts pick of Tuyamalu. I was 593 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 2: a big fan of his in terms of even going 594 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 2: in the first round, so I liked that. I didn't 595 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 2: like the Justin Whaley pick. I just thought it was 596 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 2: a little bit overvalued other options there kind of in 597 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 2: that slot. So that's my indie assessment. I want to 598 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,479 Speaker 2: go back to Jacksonville just for one player. I mean, 599 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 2: we talked about Hunter. I love that. I thought Ransall 600 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 2: was also a little bit odd, a little early for 601 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 2: me at eighty eight. Super athlete from Tulane obviously does 602 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 2: a lot of good things, but just didn't love the 603 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 2: selection there. Same with the Chargers. Cold Well, I just 604 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 2: to me a little overvalued at that slot. I liked Hampton, 605 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 2: so I'll talk about in a second. And Trey Harris 606 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,239 Speaker 2: obviously interesting considering they have a few receivers and they 607 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 2: can't exactly figure that out, so they just throw another 608 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 2: guy in the mix, so we'll see how he does 609 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:09,479 Speaker 2: with Harbaugh. And then finally Houston. I thought Jalen Smith 610 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 2: was a little interesting. I mean, obviously he's next to Petrie. 611 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 2: I have Lassider and Darby on the other side, but 612 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 2: he goes ninety seventh. And then the other one was 613 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 2: Woody Marks usc running back at one sixteen, probably the 614 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 2: backup to mix in at this point, but I just 615 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 2: think it was a bit of a reach, like I 616 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 2: kind of think, so if you look right when they 617 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 2: took Marx, Jacksonville, Giants, Carolina all took running backs in 618 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 2: the fourth round right before them, so maybe they just 619 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 2: took what was there. I mean, Caroline took ETN Houston 620 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 2: took Marx, and then it was Hunter and Samson. I 621 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 2: love the Samson pic considering he's the fourth of that group, 622 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 2: but I think Houston might have just gotten caught up. 623 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 2: So any thoughts on those before we roll on? 624 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, for the Chargers, I was, you know, I was 625 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: tempted to kind of put them in the misses because 626 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: you know, I kind of the way I put it was, 627 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: you know, they're going skill guys early, which you're in. 628 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: You're still in a division with Mahomes and whatnot, and 629 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: so but I will say, you know, the reason I 630 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: don't is because I do respect how good Hampton is 631 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: as a prospect, even though it was a deep running 632 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: back draft, and you have seen that team make do 633 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: with like I mean, you basically signed Dobbins and Edwards, 634 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: who nobody wanted. And even if you only consider Dobbins 635 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: a success, I mean, you know, you you've kind of 636 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: proven that you can you could kind of cobble together 637 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: a backfield there, and you did. You did sign Naji Harris, 638 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: so I didn't think they needed to do it, but 639 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: I did respect how how how strong of a prospect 640 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: Hampton is. And then with with Trey Harris, He's a 641 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: man beater and that was an issue for them last year. 642 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: Outside of Lata mccackie, nobody could be man covered. So 643 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: if those fits hit, they're gonna they're gonna be fine. 644 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: And and they're gonna be fine, even though I think 645 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: they might have they could have probably positionally gone a 646 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: little different directions early on and still kind of arrived 647 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: at the depth that they wanted. Uh Overall, I thought 648 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: the player that they did take were solid, so I 649 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: wasn't gonna knock them too much. And then Houston was 650 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: It was kind of a it was Houston was just 651 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: kind of in a weird spot because they had all 652 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: these you know, they definitely needed to remake the line, 653 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: but they kind of did it like they're focused a 654 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 1: little more on depth, it looks like, and you know, 655 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: they got out of veteran guys, and so they did 656 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: need to beef up the receiving corps, which they did, 657 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: and it seemed like they were just going best player 658 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: available after that. Uh So time will tell. I mean, 659 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: it's hard for me to criticize the Day three picks 660 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: too much for any team, so I tend to focus 661 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: a little higher those guys tend to be the most impactful, 662 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: both in the guys you passed over and the player 663 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: themselves that you did take. So yeah, but yeah, the 664 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 1: jury is out on Houston. It's just I wasn't gonna 665 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: knock them as much because I mean they did trade back, 666 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 1: you know, they and whatnot, and so yeah, but the 667 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: jury's out. But yeah, with the Chargers, they were, they're 668 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: they're going to be kind of a polarizing one. 669 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 2: I think. Yeah, the Texans are just an interesting case 670 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 2: trading Tunsil and then trying to rebuild from there, like, 671 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 2: you know, just just interesting decisions all around. So we 672 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 2: kind of got to see all right. Last segment here 673 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 2: for the AFC is messaging a bottle, which is basically, 674 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 2: we're bearing a bottle. We'll bring it up in ten years. 675 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 2: We have to write two names in the bottle. A 676 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 2: player who will be good to great and we will 677 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 2: consider a good to great draft pick, and a player 678 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 2: who will be considered either a bust or someone we 679 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 2: overvalued at their draft position. So I will let you 680 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 2: start here. You're going to actually give me two names. 681 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 2: It looks like two or three. I cheated because I 682 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 2: have a few here. So I was hoping you were 683 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 2: gonna cheat as well, but go ahead, you're out. 684 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: All right. So for a guy who's going to be 685 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: good degree or for a couple of guys good to 686 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 1: great that will consider good great picks, Tues stand out 687 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: to be Derek Harmon, defensive tackle at Oregon to Pittsburgh 688 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: with the twenty first selection in the first round. They 689 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: didn't they didn't, you know, they didn't get caught up 690 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: in the quarterback high. They didn't even get caught up 691 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 1: in the running back hip, and they went, you know, 692 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: with kind of what they do. I think he'll be 693 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: a rock solid player for them. And so Malchi Starks 694 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: safety going to Baltimore wait in the first round. I mean, 695 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: this is this is kind of their m every year, right. 696 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,399 Speaker 1: They don't necessarily draft based on need. They go best 697 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,839 Speaker 1: player available. They don't necessarily knock players just because they're 698 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: not in premium positions. They just kind of take who 699 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: they think is the best value available on the board 700 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: and it tends to work out. So I think Stark's especially, 701 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: you know, kind of coming into this kind of system. 702 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton there already, you know a lot of veterans, 703 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: just a smart smart team and good infrastructure around him. 704 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: Got a lot of guys at playoff experience. I wouldn't 705 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 1: be surprised if you know Starks has yet another one 706 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 1: of those Baltimore secondary players that they got weight that 707 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 1: it's just like rock solid guy, MoU chip guy you know, 708 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: ranks top five, top ten in the league at his position, 709 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 1: if not higher. So those are the two guys for me. 710 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,320 Speaker 2: So I like the running back class. I don't necessarily 711 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 2: think that's a shock, but I'm a Hampton and Gent guy. 712 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 2: Especially the locations they went to and the story with 713 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 2: hard Ba about trying to trade with Philly and then 714 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 2: being like, no, actually I need Omari and Hampton just 715 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,879 Speaker 2: makes me love him more. So I'm a big fan there. 716 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 2: My number one was Starks, so I thought it was 717 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:13,839 Speaker 2: great that you just wrote that down. I think he's 718 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 2: just a perfect fit. I had him going as the 719 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 2: first safety. It worked out hint for later for the 720 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 2: next episode. But I also love him and Warri, so 721 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 2: I think they were both kind of going to be 722 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 2: destined for good in the NFL, and I think the 723 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 2: other one would just be I kind of just love 724 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 2: this tight end class, like I see Loveland and Warren 725 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 2: and Taylor and Arroyo and Fan and I think they're 726 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 2: all going to have success in the league, So I 727 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,240 Speaker 2: project that going forward. But Starks would be my answer, 728 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 2: So that is probably the number one I think it's 729 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 2: gonna work out. I think the backup would be Simmons. 730 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 2: Like I do believe they train o' lineman pretty well there. 731 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:56,359 Speaker 2: He is uber talented, and I think he'll work out 732 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,359 Speaker 2: in Kansas City and we'll turn back in a bunch 733 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 2: of years and be like, oh, it's just Josh Simmons 734 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,839 Speaker 2: still sitting there. So that is my feeling, all right, 735 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 2: bad player, the. 736 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 1: Player who will be considered a bus or someone overvalued 737 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 1: at their draft spot. I gotta go back to Stuart 738 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:17,320 Speaker 1: just because again, listen, it's it's hard to project the draft. 739 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 1: You know, we can, it's hard to you know, everyone 740 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,879 Speaker 1: kind of has their opinions in these It's definitely better 741 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 1: to get a first round like a first rounder tend 742 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 1: to have more success than the second rounds and whatnot 743 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: as you go down. But when you look at red flags, 744 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,240 Speaker 1: one of them tends to be especially with these highly 745 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: drafted players aka you know, day one type of picks, 746 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 1: lack of college production does stand out as something that 747 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 1: tends to signify a bus So for me, that's I 748 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 1: love the athleticism, I love I understand why you know 749 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,439 Speaker 1: he was where he was and why they made the pick. 750 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 1: But that's that's the guy from me. Shamar Stewart for 751 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 1: the Bengals that one P. 752 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,399 Speaker 2: Seventeen, Yeah, Stewart was on my list, but I said, 753 00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,399 Speaker 2: I want to be different. I'm just gonna I'm gonna 754 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 2: ask too qui questions because this is just where my 755 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 2: mind went. So I said, will New England regret Campbell 756 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,360 Speaker 2: over genty? And in the sense that they took Travion, 757 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 2: So they chose Campbell and Travion over potentially going genty, 758 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 2: which we had talked about for a while, even though 759 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 2: they do have Stevenson, So you know, long term, what 760 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 2: will that look like? I think Cleveland taking Chunkins over 761 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 2: Henderson will always be an interesting choice at least something 762 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 2: to look back on. Did they make the right decision there? 763 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 2: But for me, it's Dylan Gabriel Like, even though it 764 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 2: was a third round pick, I just no one had 765 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 2: him in that slot and I still don't believe it 766 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 2: is going to be a good pick. And We're going 767 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 2: to look forward and you know, he might get an 768 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 2: opportunity or two, but I just don't see him as 769 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 2: a prospect. So that's going to be the one I'm 770 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 2: going to write in the bottle. Anything you think I'm crazy, 771 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 2: I mean. 772 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:46,880 Speaker 1: For New England, I think I would probably rather have 773 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:51,399 Speaker 1: the Campbell Henderson Tom Bash you said, because of who, 774 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 1: you know, what they're dealing with. You have a quarterback 775 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 1: they arey feel good about, but you really just needed 776 00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:00,040 Speaker 1: that old line help. I know Campbell isn't sexy, but 777 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,399 Speaker 1: again I think you know combine and when you look 778 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 1: at the rest of their haul in the first couple 779 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 1: of days, I think I'd be happy where I was 780 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 1: if I. 781 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 2: Was doing it. Yeah, between the off season and the 782 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 2: draft and all that stuff, they're a completely different team. 783 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 2: All right. That is the AFC. So we are going 784 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,799 Speaker 2: to be back. We have another episode coming up right 785 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 2: now on the NFC which will be on your feeds, 786 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 2: and we're going to do the exact same thing. Go 787 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 2: through each of the categories, go through all the teams, 788 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 2: talk about the draft picks. But until then, I am 789 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 2: Evan Abrams. That is Chris Raybond. 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