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Speaker 5: Today I'm spending time with a few people who like me,

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Speaker 5: motivational speaker and host of break Free podcast, Angela Wright, actor, singer,

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Speaker 5: We are talking about no one is too far from God.

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Speaker 5: And this conversation actually came from Brenda and I having

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Speaker 2: My battles with church came when I started singing in church,

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Speaker 10: And as I started to do that, things started disappearing

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Speaker 5: I remember we were at the house having wind one

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Speaker 7: The one thing you said was that resonated to me

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Speaker 7: you said the same thing about being taught. I noticed

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Speaker 7: It's like you take a kid and you like, here's calculus, right,

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Speaker 3: Know what, what does like?

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Speaker 3: Now, I kept that with me, and to never.

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Speaker 3: So in that I learned. I learned because of that,

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Speaker 2: It was conflicting at first until I got older. And

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately, we're gonna we get put in the situations where

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Speaker 2: Can't nobody, Nobody can change my mind about God. If

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Speaker 8: I think what I'll piggyback on is like the reality

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Speaker 8: And so I think that like to the love thing,

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Speaker 8: and when Jesus goes to them, he doesn't say like, hey,

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00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,440
Speaker 8: you're doing this thing wrong, you're doing this thing wrong.

446
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,000
Speaker 8: He just says, hey, come follow me. So much so

447
00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,520
Speaker 8: his first disciples he picked, he gave them a bag

448
00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 8: like set them for life. They walked away from the

449
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,399
Speaker 8: bag and said, actually, I'm a go with dude. And

450
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,479
Speaker 8: there is this there is this learning and this knowledge

451
00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:41,240
Speaker 8: that you come into through relationship. I think the issue

452
00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 8: with growing up in church is that we grow up

453
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,880
Speaker 8: in church, so we get into like this performance based things.

454
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:48,399
Speaker 8: I gotta look a certain way, I gotta act a

455
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,560
Speaker 8: certain way with no root or foundation and why we're

456
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:55,480
Speaker 8: doing it. The reality is Jesus loves us, and once

457
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:59,560
Speaker 8: I experience and embrace and accept that love, I want

458
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 8: to receive imprecated with how I live my life. So

459
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,399
Speaker 8: my reason to follow Jesus isn't because I'm trying to

460
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,439
Speaker 8: make him. I can't earn his love. He gave it

461
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 8: to me freely and.

462
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 9: Once I start.

463
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Speaker 8: So whenever I see somebody fall short or do something

464
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,159
Speaker 8: that's all censored, I go they haven't fully embraced how

465
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:16,200
Speaker 8: much God loves them.

466
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Speaker 9: And the issue is when we were at church, they're like,

467
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Speaker 9: don't do this because you want to go to hell. Well,

468
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,200
Speaker 9: of course I'm gonna make a decision because I don't

469
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Speaker 9: want to die and go to hell.

470
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,680
Speaker 8: But then most people think, well that's after I die,

471
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Speaker 8: so why does it matter.

472
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Speaker 9: So that's not even a rooted foundation.

473
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Speaker 8: But if I told you that somebody chose you, even

474
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Speaker 8: if you decide not to choose them, they still made

475
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Speaker 8: a decision about you, and nothing you could do whatever

476
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 8: change their mind. That's the kind of person you want

477
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 8: to get to know because you like dang, I could

478
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 8: be raggedy and messed up and make the wrong decisions

479
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,680
Speaker 8: and this person never changes their mind. Yeah, and when

480
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,879
Speaker 8: I come face to face with that person, then I

481
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 8: go Okay, Now, how does my life reflect the love

482
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Speaker 8: that they've given me? I want to live up to

483
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Speaker 8: the person that you saw fit to save that.

484
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Speaker 7: Way, so can I ask? This is a question. And

485
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Speaker 7: I hate asking this question to people because I don't

486
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Speaker 7: like to challenge people's religion. No, let's go. My biggest

487
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 7: issue with religion is someone saying you have to you

488
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,439
Speaker 7: will only go through Heaven through like believing in Jesus Christ.

489
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Speaker 1: That's good to me.

490
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Speaker 7: That creates division amongst people, right, because what if I

491
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,680
Speaker 7: don't live in a place where they don't present Jesus

492
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Speaker 7: Christ to me, So they say I grew up in

493
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Speaker 7: a Muslim, a Muslim place where there's no Jesus. You

494
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 7: can only, for example, say you lived in the Gaza

495
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 7: right now and there's a holy war and you were

496
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 7: never presented Jesus. You're telling me that those people who

497
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Speaker 7: are Muslim are going to Hell. That was a question

498
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 7: I always had to my pastor, and no one could

499
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Speaker 7: ever give me an answer, like someone who grew up

500
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Speaker 7: Buddhists who never was introduced to Jesus. You telling me

501
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,680
Speaker 7: that that person's gonna go to hell. That just never

502
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 7: sat right with me. And it just feels like religion

503
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,399
Speaker 7: became so divisive for so many people because that was

504
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,359
Speaker 7: a way you can control masses that it just scared me.

505
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,959
Speaker 7: You know, not that I judge other people, It just

506
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 7: scares me, Like, so if I got I only believe

507
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 7: there's one thing, What if I died and then that

508
00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 7: one thing was wrong? You know what I'm saying.

509
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think well, first of all, you ask five questions. First,

510
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,679
Speaker 8: the Bible says that until the Gospel has reached the

511
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 8: ends of the earth, he won't return. So everybody will

512
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 8: have an opportunity to hear the Gospel. That doesn't necessarily

513
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 8: mean that they'll make the decision to follow it. And

514
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 8: so I think about when you talk about different religions.

515
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Speaker 8: Our faith in religion is built on Jesus. So the

516
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,120
Speaker 8: only way you have access to the things that are

517
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 8: offered in Christianity is through faith in Jesus. It is

518
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,639
Speaker 8: a divisive world because this is a fallen world. The

519
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,360
Speaker 8: world we live in is not the world the Lord

520
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 8: intended for us to live in. We live here now

521
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 8: because we have sin. Shout out to Adam and Eve.

522
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 9: It's our fault. But that's the world we live in.

523
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Speaker 8: And so I think that like we have to we

524
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 8: have to think of it, like we all have a choice.

525
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,159
Speaker 8: Like God didn't just say, like here's what he's saying, Like,

526
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 8: you get to Heaven through Jesus.

527
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 9: That's the only way you get there. But I'm gonna

528
00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 9: give you a choice.

529
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Speaker 8: You don't have to choose Jesus, even though he chose you,

530
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Speaker 8: and what happens at the end of your life is

531
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Speaker 8: based off your decision. And because of that, like you

532
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,399
Speaker 8: have free will, you want to choose it. And so

533
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Speaker 8: I think it's like not a sense of dividing, it

534
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 8: is a sense of like God wants to be chosen

535
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 8: for his sake, and if you choose to follow something else.

536
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Speaker 8: As believers, I don't shun a Muslim, but I disagree

537
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 8: with their choice of faith. And they believe as hard

538
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 8: as we believe, are probably harder they you know what

539
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,360
Speaker 8: I'm saying, there's ten toes down there are other Jehovah's

540
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 8: witners think that they are only a certain seas.

541
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Speaker 7: Question who's righting who's wrong. The fact that you have

542
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 7: to choose one, to me is what's problematic with religion,

543
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 7: not spirituality. Growing up, especially in Brooklyn, I lived between

544
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Speaker 7: Hasidic Jews, I live between Muslims. There was a church

545
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 7: on every corner. It's like those three were like the

546
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 7: Big Three. And I would ask questions, and when I

547
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 7: would come across people ask questions, and me asking too

548
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,360
Speaker 7: many questions would get people upset, and they all at

549
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 7: certain times felt like I was trying to tear down

550
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 7: their religion. And I'm like, I'm not trying to tear

551
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,880
Speaker 7: down I'm trying to understand. The more questions I asked,

552
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 7: people thought I was just being divisive or playing Devil's advocate,

553
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 7: and I was like, okay, so I seek it on

554
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 7: my own. I went to college and study And when

555
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 7: I went to college and study religion, that's when I

556
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 7: really started to gain my faith, because, like you both said,

557
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,479
Speaker 7: when you know that, you know, you know, And they

558
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 7: were visions and things that I got in my mind

559
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 7: when I was young, and my parents used to be like, like,

560
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 7: who made you believe that, And I said, somebody gave

561
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 7: me the vision and it wasn't y'all. Yeah, So there

562
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 7: has to be a guy, because someone is giving me

563
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,919
Speaker 7: the things that I know in order to be successful

564
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Speaker 7: in life and putting me in front of people.

565
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Speaker 3: For example, I met a Jewish dude.

566
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Speaker 7: He had his knot underneath his beard. He had a

567
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 7: knot from trying to tie and he was just like, hey,

568
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 7: can you get this for me? So I'm tired it

569
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 7: for him and all my friends was like, why are

570
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 7: you talking to this acidic Jewish dude. I'm like, he said,

571
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 7: he need help. Then he prayed. He said, let me

572
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 7: say something. He prayed for me, and I said thanks.

573
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Speaker 7: I didn't know Jewish people. I was a young kid fresh.

574
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Speaker 7: I didn't know Jewish people prayed for black people. When

575
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Speaker 7: I was about fifteen, I said, you know, I know

576
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,199
Speaker 7: of chosen people and he said, who told you that?

577
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 1: And I said, I.

578
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 7: Don't call yourselves the chosen people? And he literally said

579
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 7: to me, he said, you don't have to be born

580
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 7: Jewish to walk through the kingdoms of God or the

581
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 7: Kingdom of Heaven. And that was a Jewish guy said

582
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 7: that to me, And I was like that was strange

583
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 7: because I've never heard that before. Ran into a Muslim

584
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 7: guy on Atlantic Avenue, never forget once it got asked

585
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 7: for help, so I stopped, what's up? Give him some help?

586
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,439
Speaker 7: And he prayed for me, and I was just like

587
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 7: what is that? And he's like, you have a great spirit,

588
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,199
Speaker 7: don't never let anything else dark in your spirit. And

589
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 7: I'm like, here's a Muslim person that prayed for me,

590
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 7: here's a Jewish person that played for me. And it

591
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 7: was just like, who am I to condemn their religion

592
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 7: because I don't believe it. So it's hard for me

593
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 7: to believe one thing. So I've just been very receptive

594
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 7: and open to different type of people in walks of life,

595
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 7: and that just been like my journey, like God has

596
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 7: been accept everybody.

597
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Speaker 5: Bro.

598
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 10: Have you ever tried to study like Muslim?

599
00:27:59,640 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 3: Yeah?

600
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Speaker 7: I took for two years. I studied, I studied, and

601
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 7: to me, it was the same thing, like the traditions

602
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 7: of the Muslim religion. There were certain things that about

603
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 7: it that was kind of like, you know, like they

604
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 7: were very salacious when it came to women. And I

605
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 7: also got a vision from God that like God was

606
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 7: just like, well, I'm not a man. Now this is

607
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 7: another thing too. I don't want to ever say something

608
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 7: that people feel like. God was like, I can't be

609
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 7: a gender. I'm a creator of authors. This is what

610
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 7: This is the message I got from God, and this

611
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 7: is also what I've heard. He was just like, women

612
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 7: create everything, women come from life like, women are life like,

613
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 7: they are the vest of life. Why would God be

614
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 7: a man? And I was like, there's no religion in

615
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 7: the world, not Christianity, Muslim or Jewish religion that puts

616
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 7: women on the pedestal they're supposed to. So for me,

617
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 7: it's always been an issue for me to just kind

618
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 7: of go in there and go to these churches.

619
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Speaker 3: And it's all men up there.

620
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Speaker 7: But the people we go to for nourishment and nurture

621
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Speaker 7: is women.

622
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Speaker 3: And going back to this King James.

623
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Speaker 7: Thing you were talking about, not going back we were.

624
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 6: I told him not to start.

625
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 3: But when you talk because when you talk about the.

626
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Speaker 2: Quran, talk about the King James version of the if

627
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 2: you look through I've never read the Koran, but I

628
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 2: understand I have friends that are Muslim. It's all of

629
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 2: it is extremely misogynistic. The King James birth. King James

630
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 2: was from what I understand and my interpretation was very

631
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Speaker 2: anti women, which is why everything is thy man and

632
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 2: thy brother, and and and to your point, I'm like, well,

633
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 2: from my own experience, it was women that gave me

634
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 2: what I needed. And I'll never forget. I remember hearing

635
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 2: debiel I say one time an Awards show. She said,

636
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 2: every person living and breathing should pledge allegiance to the

637
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 2: birth canal.

638
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 7: We all came through that, We all came through the leg.

639
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 3: Came through there. That is a fact, you know. So

640
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 3: what I believe.

641
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 2: Is that you will see them pearly gates or whatever

642
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 2: that really looks like, based on how you serve. Because

643
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, what I long to hear,

644
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 2: and I think everybody should long to hear, is job

645
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 2: well done.

646
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 7: You grew up.

647
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 3: And when I hear.

648
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 2: Except Lord and Jesus Christ, is yours, your personal savior.

649
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 3: It's the way of what he was, yes, and how

650
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 3: he operated, which was served. That is what we're supposed

651
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Speaker 3: to do.

652
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 2: And so I tell people all the time, at the

653
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 2: end of the day, did you give somebody water when

654
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,239
Speaker 2: they were thirsty? Did you give them clothes when they

655
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 2: were naked? Did you give them food when they were hungry.

656
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 6: Don't forget visiting them while they was in prison.

657
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest.

658
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 2: I really feel like when you check all those boxes

659
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 2: and you know from where your help comes, and you

660
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 2: acknowledge that, you acknowledge the source as such, there's there's

661
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 2: no God won't forsake you.

662
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Speaker 6: And I will say to you too, like have your

663
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Speaker 6: get your you.

664
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 4: You just have to have your own relationship. And once

665
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 4: you have your relationship, ask God for clarity. Got to

666
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 4: give you clarity whether he's sending through Wes, if he

667
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 4: sent it through this lad, if he send it through

668
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 4: the pastor it might be a child or one of

669
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 4: your kids.

670
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 8: I think the thing I will add to that is

671
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 8: like I agree with personal relationships, and I think like

672
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 8: it starts at I could tell like you're a seeker,

673
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 8: and so it's almost like God to reveal himself to

674
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 8: you in ways that we didn't all encounter him because

675
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 8: of the way that you think. But it really starts

676
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 8: with faith, and it really starts having an honest conversation

677
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 8: like I talk to God like I'm sitting here talking

678
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 8: to y'all, and it literally starts with God, show me

679
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 8: who you are. Like in the most naturalist way, and

680
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 8: he'll start to reveal himself. You already mentioned like I

681
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 8: have visions and God talks to me this way. The

682
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 8: issue is that when we grow up with those gifts,

683
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 8: if people don't know how to foster them, they will

684
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 8: shun them and not dig into that. Somebody should have

685
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 8: been cultivating that for you, because that's the way God

686
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 8: speaks to you, and so I feel like it has

687
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 8: to happen that way. I think the other thing is that,

688
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 8: like Jesus only gave us two commandments. It was to

689
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 8: love him with all our hearts, soul in mind, and

690
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 8: to love our neighbor as ourselves, and that is what

691
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 8: it is. But when we talk about loving Jesus with

692
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 8: our heart, soul in mind, that means it's hard to

693
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 8: say it.

694
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 9: It's like, because I know God.

695
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 8: Is expressed in so many ways, but Jesus in the

696
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 8: bounds of Christianity is the only way, and it's hard

697
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 8: to understand that. But it's also a journey we take

698
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 8: with him because I think I brought the disciples because

699
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 8: I'm like, they didn't even know. Dude, He's just walking

700
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 8: up on the scene as a random guy saying things.

701
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 8: But my first experience with Jesus came from experiencing healing.

702
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 8: I had asthma at seven and I was I wanted

703
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 8: to be an athlete. I used to have to take

704
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 8: the machine every night and I would go to bed

705
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 8: at seven and be like, God, I don't want to

706
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 8: do this, And at seven I got healed from it.

707
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 9: I've never had asthma again, so I'm like, oh, you.

708
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 6: Might be real, you know what I'm saying.

709
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 8: And then I've seen that over and over again in life,

710
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 8: like asking for something and watching him show up.

711
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 9: Like last year, I quit my job just following the Lord.

712
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 9: That ain't.

713
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 8: I live in la It costs to breathe. It's just

714
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 8: not a thing I could just be out here doing.

715
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 8: But I trust God so much, I'm like, cool, I'll

716
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 8: do that.

717
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 9: I ended the year with a six figure book deal.

718
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 9: I get to travel the world.

719
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 8: And those are not the blessing. The blessing is I

720
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 8: met Jesus along the way, and I know he's a provider.

721
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 9: You couldn't make me, but you couldn't sit here argue

722
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 9: with me back and forth and be like no, no,

723
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 9: God doesn't provide, Oh he does. Yeah, Yet.

724
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 7: We talk about living in abundance because God knows that

725
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 7: we will provide for other people. One thing I've learned

726
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 7: that it has been clear to me over the past

727
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:25,320
Speaker 7: five years is that me opening my heart to understanding

728
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 7: people relieve me from certain things. Right. I grew up

729
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 7: in Brooklyn in the nineties. Homophobia, misogyny, and having an

730
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 7: elitist attitude was normal.

731
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like, if you a.

732
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 7: Dude and you're going to survive, you gotta think you

733
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 7: better than everybody else. You gotta think women ain't as

734
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 7: you know, I'm trying not to prespass, Sorry, but then

735
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 7: you know you like going on my journey to try

736
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 7: to understand what God wanted from me. It really was

737
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 7: just exceptings, acceptance and accepting all things right. Every walk

738
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 7: of life should be accepted even if you don't agree

739
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 7: with it, because that's that person's walk, just like you

740
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 7: said my cousin did eight years right. Grew up Southern Baptist.

741
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 7: When he came out, he was Muslim. When he came out,

742
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 7: he was Muslim because Muslim got him through doing that.

743
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying, tell me that there wasn't

744
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 7: something that they needed in that moment from the Muslim

745
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 7: religion that got them through. That's so for me, it's

746
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 7: hard for me to cast anything against anybody. I don't

747
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 7: care what you are, who you look like. The first

748
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 7: thing I'm gonna do is just ask questions to get

749
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 7: to know. But I realized when I ask questions, especially

750
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 7: in the church community, because that's what we're talking about,

751
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 7: that's when I get my most pushback because they don't

752
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 7: understand the.

753
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 5: Fear.

754
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying, And there are things that

755
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 8: Scripture says right that we don't necessarily agree with, but

756
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,919
Speaker 8: it doesn't mean that I dehumanize you, like I still

757
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 8: love you, even if that's the same thing, Like if

758
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 8: she liked the falcons and I like the Bears, is like, okay.

759
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 9: That's cool, you know what I'm saying, Like I can

760
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 9: still love answer. We're gonna kick here, we're gonna hang out,

761
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 9: we're gonna talk, you know what I'm saying.

762
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 8: And I think that what we are missing sometimes in

763
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 8: the body of Christ is the relational fact like factor

764
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 8: like I can sit and I could talk, I can engage.

765
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 9: I've been doing that more like I just want to

766
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 9: ask questions. Like most times people will say things to

767
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:19,479
Speaker 9: me and they.

768
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 8: Be like, I know you're not gonna you don't know

769
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 8: what I'm gonna say, Just say it and then we

770
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 8: can have a conversation, because I also want to understand

771
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 8: what you where you're saying, where you're coming from. I

772
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 8: also can't show you your need for Jesus if I

773
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 8: don't know your need, So I can't even I can't

774
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 8: even say like, oh, this is what he will do

775
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 8: for you if I ain't never took the time to

776
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 8: sit and hear you out and listen and learn about

777
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 8: you as a person. And so I do think that

778
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,720
Speaker 8: we're missing that. But please keep asking questions. You've probably

779
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 8: just been asking the wrong people.

780
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:53,479
Speaker 7: Yeah, I fear you don't want to offend people because

781
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 7: religion people take that very personal, and I never want

782
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 7: to knock someone off of their spiritual journey by asking

783
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,800
Speaker 7: the question may get them thinking something. So for me,

784
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 7: it's kind of like, let me not even ask this

785
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 7: question openly. The only reason why I feel comfortable is

786
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 7: because Crystal made it up. You know, this is a

787
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 7: place where we can be positive, you know, But I

788
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 7: don't have like how many times we've all been in

789
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 7: the room and I've never talked to Wess about this.

790
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 3: I don't because I don't ever want to hurt somebody.

791
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 7: But these are questions. I really be sitting back, like

792
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 7: I wonder if other people got these questions.

793
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 10: Do you feel like it's a block of a blessing

794
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 10: because you don't ask the question or you don't get

795
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:29,760
Speaker 10: the answer.

796
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,479
Speaker 7: Do you feel because at some point you really don't

797
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 7: know what you No, I get what you're saying. My

798
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 7: first thing is I'm always gonna ask God. God for

799
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 7: my entire life has provided me with answers. Like you said,

800
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 7: There's been times in my life when I haven't had

801
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 7: ship and I'll be like God, I just need a

802
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 7: way and then bow. He won't give me the money,

803
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 7: he gonna give me away and I got to walk

804
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 7: through that door to get it done. Like God has

805
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 7: done that to me so many times that nobody can

806
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 7: tell me.

807
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 5: God.

808
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 4: You how you were saying about being more person like,

809
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 4: I feel like that's why we having a hard time

810
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 4: right now reaching this generation for sure, because churches be

811
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 4: rooted in traditions, then we cannot be in order to

812
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 4: reach this new generation like God, That's what I do.

813
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 6: Both children now, especially at Rich Children the only way

814
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 6: we're going.

815
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 1: We can't reach them.

816
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 6: My grandma then wished us we have to reach them

817
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:22,399
Speaker 6: where they are.

818
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 7: And.

819
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 9: Like, I love that you said that, like I asked

820
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:28,720
Speaker 9: God for something and then it happens.

821
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 8: And the next step in that is like he ain't

822
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 8: giving you the plan or the thing to be like,

823
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 8: all right, God, I got you, hollert you next time. No, no, no,

824
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 8: that is now your invitation to find out who he is.

825
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 8: There is a it's a continual process. So the reason

826
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 8: he keeps showing up for you that way is because

827
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 8: he's like, at some point, my son's gonna come and

828
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 8: sit with me. And I think sometimes the reason you

829
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 8: can't find our answers externally is because.

830
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 9: God wants to meet you you are.

831
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 8: And so I think sometimes some things we can learn

832
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 8: from other people, they can build on it. But by

833
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 8: the way you think, I mean, God's gonna have to

834
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 8: literally sit on your bed and tell you.

835
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 9: Something you ain't never told nobody.

836
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 8: And if you'll encounter him in a way that's gonna

837
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 8: be like I know this is real, and no, it's

838
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 8: gonna continue to have it that way. And then, to

839
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 8: miss Lawrence's point earlier, then he'll show you.

840
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 9: Okay, where can I go to church? Because I mean,

841
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 9: I grew up in church. It's sometime I be like,

842
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 9: what is going on here?

843
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: But we need the church.

844
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 9: It's how we raise families.

845
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 8: It's how we are discipled because for the most part,

846
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 8: we're having our own personal encounters. We opened up the

847
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 8: Bible going what the heck does this mean? And so

848
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 8: we need to be in a church that is discipling

849
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 8: us and saying this is what it looks like to

850
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 8: live this out because most of the time we grew

851
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 8: up learning scriptures and had no idea what they meant.

852
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 9: And it's like, oh, okay, right, but what does that

853
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 9: mean for Monday through Saturday? And so I think like

854
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 9: this is a safe space. Like you have people that

855
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 9: are like, not please ask me all the questions, you know,

856
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 9: and if I don't know, I'm gonna be like, you

857
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:57,800
Speaker 9: know what, I don't know.

858
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 7: I would appreciate that because when you ask questions and

859
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 7: people don't know, when they shun you, let me just

860
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 7: tell you some bullshit.

861
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 9: You be like, man, why you said you said?

862
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 8: You could have been like you don't know. I know,

863
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 8: I would be very I'm gonna be like nah, bro,

864
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 8: I don't. I don't know that one, but I'm gonna

865
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 8: find out. Like I'm gonna go, You're gonna help me

866
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 8: become a secret as well. I'm gonna make sure I

867
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 8: have an answer for you, Like I'm a seminary right

868
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 8: now now, because I hate it.

869
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 9: I absolutely hate it, like.

870
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 8: I don't even like, but I want to learn for

871
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 8: people like you so I can be like nah, like

872
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 8: I do know that King James version is the most

873
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 8: tampered with version of the Miles.

874
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 9: They don't even acknowledge it. And on the scholar Like

875
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 9: on the scholar side.

876
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 7: In college, gene Wycliffe took so many words out and

877
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 7: changed so many things because he wanted it to be

878
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 7: a certain way, which is also what scared me when

879
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 7: I was like how many generations?

880
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 9: Yeah, you said how many?

881
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 1: What he needs?

882
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 9: That's crazy?

883
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 6: You can't be doing that.

884
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 9: But the N I V Is really really accurate, and it's.

885
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 6: It's like Ladys was written one that like by multiple people.

886
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 9: Yeah, so you need, you need, that's my thing?

887
00:40:59,200 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 5: What is that?

888
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 9: It's not everything? I mean Because here's the thing, bro,

889
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,720
Speaker 9: Like in older times before there was a Bible.

890
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 8: That's why I keep telling you need to have an

891
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 8: experience first, which will then filter how you experience the Bible.

892
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 8: You need the Holy spirits to read the Bible, because

893
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 8: if not, it's just words on a page.

894
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 3: Well, that's what I was gonna say. It is you

895
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 3: take from it and then you go to yes, because

896
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 3: you can't. You don't. You can't listen to people to

897
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 3: tell you who God is. You will learn him for yourself.

898
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,320
Speaker 2: And once that happens, then when you go back to

899
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 2: those whichever book it is, and then you see him,

900
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 2: it will then make sense. The words, all of them

901
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 2: will come together and it will make sense. I tell

902
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 2: people to me, the original was written.

903
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 9: In Hebrew, angree and most of the words don't translate.

904
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 2: The words don't translate, so nobody can tell me anything

905
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 2: based on what they have.

906
00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 3: You believe and profits, and I believe even annoyance.

907
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 2: Right, I will listen to those people because that doesn't

908
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 2: come from a book, that doesn't come from a bid

909
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 2: that comes from God, and he says, touch not my annoyance.

910
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna sit and listen to them, not based on

911
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 2: the book, because that means God has given them something

912
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 2: to give to us, and I'm going to pay.

913
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 3: Attention to them, which is why that goes back to

914
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 3: what I said.

915
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 2: I asked God to point me in the direction of

916
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 2: the of the teacher that he needs me to hear from.

917
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 9: I always ask this, Yeah, I think, yeah, yeah, because

918
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 9: I live by the Bible.

919
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 8: But because the same way you just said, like God

920
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 8: would speak to a prophet and they will tell you

921
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 8: what like what he said, same way the Bible was written,

922
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 8: God spoke, I mean God spoke, but those people experienced

923
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 8: because because you're in Bible times, there was not an

924
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 8: actual scripture.

925
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 9: They were orally testifying what happened, and then it was

926
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 9: being put on paper.

927
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 2: But so so my thing is, yes, is it all

928
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 2: they they land and teaching everything from the Bible. However,

929
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 2: I think because there there is a special annoying thing

930
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 2: when it comes.

931
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 9: To prophet for sure, But how do you know what

932
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 9: they're seniors coming from God?

933
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 5: I can tell you so just last week, it was

934
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 5: last week week weeks ago, I was somewhere and there

935
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 5: was a prophet there and a friend of mine was like, Hey,

936
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 5: this is the prophet that's been praying over me for

937
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 5: seventeen years. Everything he has said has come to pass.

938
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 5: And I was like, oh, wow, well he need to

939
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 5: speak over me.

940
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: So he ends up calling and said, hey, probably wants

941
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 1: to talk to you.

942
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 5: There were things that I had literally just text my

943
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 5: lawyer the day before that this man was saying that

944
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 5: he had no idea like that. I so many things

945
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 5: that are happening right now that he know me from

946
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 5: Adam in my personal life that was having and I'm like,

947
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 5: I know this is God. I know this guy telling

948
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,399
Speaker 5: me to move. I know this God tell me to start.

949
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 5: It was something so simple as just starts. And I

950
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 5: hit my lawyer about just those two words, and he

951
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 5: was like, God is telling me to tell you just start,

952
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 5: just start.

953
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: Just start.

954
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 5: I was like what.

955
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 9: I was like, I just sent this email to my

956
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 9: lawyer yesterday.

957
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 1: You don't know.

958
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 7: This is not It's not a made up story.

959
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 3: She was like, D I got not.

960
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 7: This is called just start. Then she spoke to the

961
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 7: prophet and then she called me back. It was like,

962
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 7: d you ain't gonna never said it happened just like that.

963
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: And it was so many different things that he was.

964
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 5: Saying and that I have been or you said, God

965
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 5: gives you visions and then you start wondering is it

966
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 5: just me or did God really put this in my heart?

967
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,280
Speaker 9: The man was like, God has like five things he wants.

968
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: You to do at once. Because we started thinking we're

969
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: crazy if we're doing too much. He was like, no,

970
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 1: he all these things. He's planning you.

971
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 7: He's just waiting on you to do them.

972
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 5: And I was like, oh my, this But I think

973
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 5: it's when he touches on things that you had personal

974
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 5: conversations with God.

975
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 8: That's how when I know that this is really when

976
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 8: he finished, what did he say, Like, how did he finish?

977
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 9: Like after you were after the what do you.

978
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 1: Say like something like it was, yeah, I have recorded.

979
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 5: Yeah.

980
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 9: So the reason I asked not not that I doubt that,

981
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 9: Like I'm like here for the prophet.

982
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 8: We had like a holy counter and women together, So

983
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 8: it's not that it's just that we also have to

984
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 8: be aware that sources can have access to you the

985
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 8: same way the Holy Spirit, and so what I would

986
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 8: say will also be like a determinity factor even for

987
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:50,359
Speaker 8: people watching this, because somebody find your child not from

988
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 8: the Lord, and so I think that we prophesying part,

989
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 8: but the goal of that is that always pushes you

990
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 8: back to the Lord. So I think like if a

991
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 8: person makes it about them, like because I knew I

992
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 8: did that, right, Like you gotta be careful because it's

993
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 8: a line, and so I say, I would say, like

994
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 8: a telltale sign for people watching who encounter like Jesus

995
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 8: that way, it's like, did this person exalt and push

996
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 8: me back to Jesus?

997
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 9: Because that's the that should be the source.

998
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 7: And when it's not, that would be because Kirk Franklin

999
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 7: did that last night. He stood up there and smiled

1000
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 7: and everybody started cheering and he said no, no, no, no, no,

1001
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 7: not me God, which to me, I was like that

1002
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 7: was wild, powerful and deliberate. And then the thing is

1003
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 7: they started cheering louder because he.

1004
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 3: Was like no, I was like, d ain't I as powerful?

1005
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 7: No, Like seeing that last night was like he was like,

1006
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 7: don't give.

1007
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 9: It to me, give it to him because we are vessels.

1008
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 8: So it's like this, I couldn't sit here and talk

1009
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 8: to y'all. It's the wisdom of the Holy Spirit, like

1010
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 8: I don't know nothing, Like it's him. And so I think,

1011
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 8: like when someone wants to minister to you, that.

1012
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 6: Should be their heart posture.

1013
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 8: Is that without God, I couldn't do this, Like it's

1014
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 8: the Holy Spirit. That's empowering me to be able to

1015
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 8: live it out.

1016
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 5: That's so good.

1017
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1018
00:46:58,200 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 5: Something I want to ask all of you, because you

1019
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 5: all have such amazing journeys, pinpoint a point in your

1020
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 5: life where your faith was tested, where you really had

1021
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 5: to question God or even one if your existenceuse.

1022
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:19,320
Speaker 6: I know I've had those moments. Well, we definitely know.

1023
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 6: My faith was tested when I was in prison.

1024
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 4: And even though I knew I was wrong, go broke

1025
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 4: the law like and not just the not just the law,

1026
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 4: but I went against God and I knew better. We

1027
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 4: all know to who much is given, much is required.

1028
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,320
Speaker 4: But I can say that my faith was really tested

1029
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 4: in the thick of it. I knew God, I knew

1030
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 4: I wasn't not gonna do thirty years. I knew I

1031
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 4: wasn't gonna do thirty years. But it's like faith would.

1032
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 6: Make you look crazy. People would begin to think you

1033
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 6: were crazy.

1034
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 4: So when people would ask me when I was going home,

1035
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 4: I would say next year, and make sure would come

1036
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 4: and I'll still be there.

1037
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 6: And then it got to the point where I woke up.

1038
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 4: And I told him, I said, don't call me in

1039
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 4: g anymore, call me from because I felt like every

1040
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 4: time somebody said free, they were in agreements, and so

1041
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 4: I wanted to answer to the offices, call me free,

1042
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 4: call me free, because that's what I'm gonna be.

1043
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 6: I'm gonna be free, and I'm gonna go.

1044
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 4: I'm I begin to write my book in prison, and

1045
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 4: people will say, what is she writing a book for?

1046
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 4: She is crazy, her time is getting to her. I'm

1047
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 4: writing a book because that's what. It's not a New

1048
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 4: York Times bestseller yet, but it's published. It's I came

1049
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 4: home and it's yeah, it's so. And I begin to

1050
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 4: tell God. I said, now, God, I'm helping everybody else

1051
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 4: get out of prison. I had started writing motions for

1052
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,439
Speaker 4: people and they were leaving. And the hardest time came

1053
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 4: when I watched my friendly they told me I was

1054
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 4: in It was during COVID and they called up there.

1055
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 4: I was in confinement and they said, Karen got immediate release.

1056
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:55,800
Speaker 4: And I was like, wait a minute, Jesus, wait one minute.

1057
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 6: Now, wait a minute. I'm helping that everybody else go

1058
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 6: and it's working for them.

1059
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 4: And then it really was hard because this girl was

1060
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 4: not gonna fil for clemency right, and I encouraged. I'm

1061
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,399
Speaker 4: like no, you gotta fil you gotta file. And I said,

1062
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 4: well here, she said, I don't know how to do it.

1063
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 4: I said, take my application, take my name off of it,

1064
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 4: put your name.

1065
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 6: Just change the information, y'all. President Obama granted her clemency.

1066
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:25,320
Speaker 6: Mom's got denied my paper.

1067
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 4: That's my And I said, well, I called my father boohoo,

1068
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 4: crying and I'm like, Daddy.

1069
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 6: What's up with your guy? What's your homeboy saying? Because

1070
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 6: how is Crystal free? And I'm still in prison?

1071
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 4: And that was my paperwork. Yeah, but that was the

1072
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 4: time that I really had to be like I cried

1073
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 4: and for three days late there.

1074
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 6: But then I had to get up and wash my

1075
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 6: favor and I had to continue to start back to

1076
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 6: throw God say, throw it in his face. You know

1077
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 6: how people throw some of your face. Take there for you.

1078
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,359
Speaker 4: That's what I do, what God want? God, you said

1079
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 4: that the prisoners free. Hello, I'm still a prisoner. What

1080
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 4: are you gonna say?

1081
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 6: Friend? I begin to say, you know, greatest, he that's

1082
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 6: in me, then he that's in the world.

1083
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 4: I had to begin to speak that thing over my life,

1084
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 4: and you know, January thirteenth, I walked out of prison

1085
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 4: a free woman.

1086
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 9: Because faith and faith until you can't see it, We're.

1087
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:21,280
Speaker 6: Like, I feel like, yes, yes, but you don't understand

1088
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 6: that when you're going you.

1089
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 9: Crystal, Crystal be there, she would still be there.

1090
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it all worked together the good of

1091
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 6: those who loved you know, for you know, for yourself.

1092
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 6: When you in the middle of it, you can't see

1093
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 6: you be like, now God put you up to or it.

1094
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 2: Was time that I'd be like, but I have to

1095
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 2: ask you this with their moments where He sent you

1096
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 2: signs that I still got you.

1097
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, yes, for sure, God, I'm in the middle

1098
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 6: of that.

1099
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 4: Now God sent the calling my mother of another color,

1100
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,399
Speaker 4: she you know, Caucasian woman. And when I tell y'all,

1101
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 4: this lady fought for my freedom as if she had

1102
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 4: birthed me herself. She fought and she said, I'm gonna

1103
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:12,359
Speaker 4: see you to the end of the door.

1104
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 6: And that's what she did. So when she came into

1105
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 6: my life, it was like, Okay, I'm still here.

1106
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 3: And then just.

1107
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 4: Then things that was not even directly tied to my freedom,

1108
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 4: like me asking God to keep my parents because there

1109
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 4: was a fear of mind.

1110
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 6: You know, I was older when I got to travel

1111
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 6: thirty years old.

1112
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,399
Speaker 4: My parents was already in their fifty so I was saying, God,

1113
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 4: please don't allow my.

1114
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 6: Parents to leave this earth woman.

1115
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 1: So he turned me.

1116
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 9: Yeah and all of that.

1117
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, he covered them. He kept and they seventy three.

1118
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 4: They're alive and well and not on any blood pressure medication.

1119
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 4: Lord keep my kid, you know.

1120
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 1: And he did it.

1121
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 6: So it was times that he always showed me like,

1122
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 6: I got you. In even some of the officers were

1123
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 6: super nice than me.

1124
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 4: When I was in confinement for seventeen months, seventeen months

1125
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 4: confined in the room because the government is just trying

1126
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 4: to get me to tell on other people, using me

1127
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 4: as an intimidation factor, it was still.

1128
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 6: Like God still had me in that moment. He still

1129
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:10,439
Speaker 6: kept me. He was just like, no, you my daughter,

1130
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 6: I got you.

1131
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 4: And I used to tell them to you know, some

1132
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 4: of the guards that sneak me, you know, fool because

1133
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 4: they just felt bad. And I would tell them, y'all

1134
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 4: when I go home, y'all gonna see me, y'all gonna

1135
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,320
Speaker 4: see me. Even you know, girls that thought I was crazy,

1136
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 4: they say, oh, don't pay her no attention.

1137
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 6: She's just crazy. She's crazy, she's lost her mind her

1138
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 6: time has got through it, but now they're on my

1139
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 6: social media scene.

1140
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1141
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 4: I continue to give God all the glory because it

1142
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 4: is Him who I live and I'm moving, I have

1143
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 4: my being, and I also know that I have a

1144
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 4: greater responsibility and we have to carry it out. But

1145
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 4: definitely times that my faith was tested, and even now

1146
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 4: coming home. You know, you want things to happen the

1147
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 4: way that you want to happen, and I look and

1148
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 4: I feel like I'm not where I want to be,

1149
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 4: but I thank God that I'm.

1150
00:52:58,440 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 1: Not with my mother, you know.

1151
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's even throughout this walk, as I continue, I'm

1152
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 4: free in mind, body and spirit, but it's still times

1153
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:08,720
Speaker 4: that I have to be like, Okay, Lord.

1154
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 6: Where you at? You said you was gonna do such

1155
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 6: and su and you haven't did it.

1156
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 4: And even being here in this moment, I have to

1157
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 4: say it like the way that I met a Shauna

1158
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 4: right met her through somebody, a mutual friend, and she

1159
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 4: said to me, she said, didn't you just get a

1160
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 4: warding church?

1161
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,280
Speaker 6: Didn't even know where attended the same church?

1162
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, but just things that I told her, you know,

1163
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 4: shared my deepest dreams were her and how she's been

1164
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 4: able I believe God put people in your life to

1165
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 4: aid you along, to carry your dream, you know, through

1166
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 4: and then just say here, just sit here amongst y'all,

1167
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.

1168
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,399
Speaker 6: Just thankful in this space and in this time. It's

1169
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 6: just another that God saying.

1170
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:48,800
Speaker 1: I got you. Yeah, I got you.

1171
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 6: Sure, Yeah I got you.

1172
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 1: Sure I.

1173
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 7: Want to know.

1174
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:56,359
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1175
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 7: I was at the point in my life where like.

1176
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 10: Everything was off. Everything I'm talking about health, full blood pressure, pad.

1177
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,240
Speaker 10: I was over four hundred and thirty pounds.

1178
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 11: I wasn't forty yet, like shoot, relationships with fam, relationships

1179
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 11: like family friends and these women, like nothing was at working, investments, work, nothing, work.

1180
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 10: I went through like a two year period at and

1181
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 10: I was like I had to sit down and check.

1182
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 3: Myself, like what are you doing?

1183
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:35,320
Speaker 7: What are you doing?

1184
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 10: And when I really sat down and like locked myself

1185
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 10: in that room and had to face myself, it's all

1186
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 10: on me. Yeah, like you can't listen, nobody can help

1187
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 10: you but you. So I had to dig deep, like

1188
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 10: I'm still I'm still getting out of it. But you know,

1189
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 10: it's like I'm at a space where I'm alright, I

1190
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 10: know what caused it.

1191
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 11: I know how to get out of it, and I know,

1192
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 11: if I keep my faith, I'm gonna.

1193
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 3: Be all right.

1194
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 6: That's right.

1195
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 1: What about you?

1196
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:11,280
Speaker 2: Oh several times the first time when I really really

1197
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 2: had a moment where he like sent somebody. I had

1198
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 2: never experienced this before.

1199
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 3: I was in the process of I had this idea to.

1200
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 2: Open up a chain of new salons when I was

1201
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 2: in a beauty I was in a beauty industry, and

1202
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:28,280
Speaker 2: I wanted to open.

1203
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 3: Up a chain of new salons. At this time, I

1204
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 3: was also on the show Star. We were in our

1205
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 3: I think we were in our first season, maybe second season.

1206
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 3: I was like, I want to do this. I want

1207
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 3: to do this now.

1208
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,760
Speaker 2: While thinking I'm about to do these salons, my body

1209
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:49,240
Speaker 2: is getting extremely tired, my mind is getting really tired.

1210
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 2: I'm starting to become sick because I'm juggling being an actor,

1211
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,280
Speaker 2: becoming a better actor, which you know takes practice, takes

1212
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 2: you know, patience. But I was also a full time

1213
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 2: hairstylists at the same time, so I literally was scheduling

1214
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 2: clients around what my film schedule would be. And then

1215
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 2: when I got off from the salon and I had

1216
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 2: to go home and study my lines and stuff to

1217
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 2: get to work.

1218
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 3: And make sure I deliver properly. So I was becoming sick.

1219
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 3: So I had this idea. I said, well, if I

1220
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:19,320
Speaker 3: opened up start.

1221
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 2: The first chain of these salons, that could essentially just

1222
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 2: kind of run themselves, I don't really have to be there.

1223
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 2: That'll set me up where I can really walk away.

1224
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 2: So I went around, I kept looking for spaces. I'm like,

1225
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 2: had this is a great space. I never had a

1226
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 2: problem I could. I could open a salon with my

1227
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 2: eyes closed. But this time, every new space I found,

1228
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 2: we would get there almost there where I'm about to

1229
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 2: about to send me a lease, and they're like, all

1230
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 2: the developers said they.

1231
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 3: Don't want to do a salon here da D D D.

1232
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 3: It would be all kind of crazy stuff back to back.

1233
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,399
Speaker 3: I'm like, what is going on? And getting I'm still

1234
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 3: very tired. Now I'm getting now I'm questioning. I'm like, well, God,

1235
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,320
Speaker 3: what is going on? Like what is this?

1236
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 2: And I remember talking to one of my spiritual sisters

1237
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 2: one time and she said and I told her, I said,

1238
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,320
Speaker 2: I don't know what to do. I said, I'm I'm tired,

1239
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 2: and I don't my body is is is breaking down?

1240
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 2: Like little I was turning dark losing weight. It was terrible.

1241
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 2: And she said, have you you need to pray like

1242
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 2: you need? I said I have she said, she said.

1243
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 6: No, no, you have to break for a moment. Yeah.

1244
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 3: And I said okay.

1245
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 2: And I said, well, maybe I haven't done that because

1246
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 2: we get caught up in our cardinal cells sometimes and.

1247
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 3: Don't do what we know we're supposed to do and

1248
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 3: let this go to the source.

1249
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 2: So I went home that night, cut off everything, and

1250
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 2: I got on my knees, I lit my candles and

1251
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 2: I just prayed.

1252
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 3: And I said, God, I need you to show me.

1253
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 3: I need you to tell me what it is that

1254
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 3: I need to be doing. What is it you want?

1255
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,439
Speaker 3: What do you see for me? And and I left

1256
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:50,919
Speaker 3: it there. I left it. I cried out. I left

1257
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 3: it there. Two months later, I was sitting in Houston's.

1258
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 2: This at this time it was on Liox Road. This

1259
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 2: woman stops by my booth. I was with one of

1260
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 2: my closest friends. This lady stopped by my booth. I

1261
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 2: never seen her day in my life. She lays her

1262
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 2: hand on my shoulder and she said, stop stressing over

1263
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 2: that salon. I swear to you just like that, She said,

1264
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 2: stop stressing over that salon. I'm thinking, maybe she's a

1265
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 2: cliet of she's she's going to one of my my stylists,

1266
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 2: and she's maybe had heard me going off.

1267
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 3: And I said, I said, I said, do you are you?

1268
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 3: Do you call to myself? She said no, she said

1269
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 3: God told me to tell you to let it go.

1270
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 3: So I got in the car.

1271
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 2: I turned on Donnie mcclark and and Derenda Clark cold

1272
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 2: let it go. And then I began to write my

1273
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 2: letter to my clients and then a letter to my staff.

1274
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 2: And I mean a baby, but I tell you I

1275
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 2: had to keep turning because I was it was and

1276
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 2: fast forward bumped the series regular.

1277
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 3: You know, got bumped the series regular.

1278
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 2: Right after that, you know, I got offered a Billie

1279
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 2: Holiday movie, and you know things were great.

1280
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 3: Now, let me also add every pinnacle moment of my career.

1281
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 3: Thus far, I've not had an agent. I've not been

1282
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 3: able to secure the agent.

1283
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 2: I've not been able to have proper management because I

1284
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 2: was always told that I was unusual talent and they

1285
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 2: don't know what the pitch would be.

1286
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 3: However, everything I've done has been top tier. Yes, so

1287
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 3: right there, he showed me I'm your agent.

1288
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 1: It's right.

1289
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 3: But even at that I still was like, well, God,

1290
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 3: can you send this person?

1291
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 6: Got an agent?

1292
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 7: This person?

1293
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 3: I don't understand what's the difference.

1294
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 7: But I left alone.

1295
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 2: I said, Okay, God, I know obviously you got me again.

1296
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 2: You keep showing me signs I get a new job

1297
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 2: or whatever case and be fast forward. Now here we

1298
00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 2: are we're going to a pandemic, going to a strike.

1299
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 2: The coins have run completely out. I don't have anybody

1300
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 2: in human form working on my behalf to secure me

1301
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 2: new deals and new jobs and stuff. And so for

1302
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 2: the last two three years, I don't know, I have

1303
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 2: literally been operating on my spiritual savings account.

1304
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 3: We talk about my spiritual.

1305
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 2: Savings account and that God has placed a village that

1306
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 2: is so strong and so rich in my life that

1307
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 2: I have not There are a lot of things that

1308
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 2: I want for, and I mean everything from mortgage payments,

1309
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 2: everything from water, everything from making sure my mother is

1310
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 2: taking care of because I lost my father last year

1311
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 2: and that that.

1312
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 3: Was a whole new thing I had to take on.

1313
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 3: And so because I.

1314
01:00:54,680 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 2: Learned from my first experience to not answered him and

1315
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 2: just trust him while I get uncomfortable, a lot I

1316
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 2: get it.

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Speaker 3: I don't like how it feels. I get very uncomfortable

1318
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 3: from not having a car to a friend of mine,

1319
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 3: like take my car and keep it till you get

1320
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Speaker 3: another one.

1321
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 2: Like all of that as uncomfortable as it's being, I

1322
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 2: can't explain why I still have.

1323
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 3: Yes, there is a piece that I cannot explain. Yes,

1324
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 3: I have no lack, no lack, I have no lack,

1325
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 3: but also no money.

1326
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And so what God showed me was I am the richest,

1328
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 3: I am the resource. I provide the abundance.

1329
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:43,440
Speaker 4: I'm the supplier of all your leeds.

1330
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Speaker 1: Not a job, gosh, not a job, for sure.

1331
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 2: And so to answer the question, God has shown up

1332
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 2: and showed me who he was so many times and

1333
01:01:56,480 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 2: through every uh hard or hurdle or or tribulation, you

1334
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 2: name it, he has. He has kept my peace. He's

1335
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 2: he's given me a sense of miracle, signs and wonder yeah,

1336
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 2: for me to for me to stay sane and just

1337
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 2: trust him and and it works.

1338
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 1: That's amazing.

1339
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 5: Now the value I and miss Lawrence, and I mean,

1340
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 5: what's she work in the entertainment.

1341
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 1: Industry as well. But Hollywood and God do not mix,

1342
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:28,919
Speaker 1: you know. They always try to say hey, don't say

1343
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 1: God or Jesus just or say God. Don't say Jesus. Yeah,

1344
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:33,919
Speaker 1: I thank you God.

1345
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 5: Like no, like they they tell us to like not

1346
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 5: do those things. I haven't really been told that, but

1347
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 5: we know it. It's like an unspoken thing. Has there

1348
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 5: been anything that projects or boundaries that you set within

1349
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 5: your career because of your faith or things or just

1350
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 5: your personal beliefs or things that you like.

1351
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 3: I'm not doing that.

1352
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 7: Yeah. I've had one role where Lord it was a

1353
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 7: it was a rape scene.

1354
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 3: Wow, yeah, and I just refuse to do it.

1355
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 7: I just was like this something about that and that,

1356
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 7: and they were like, well, that's a thestpion and that

1357
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 7: said I get it, but I can use my tool

1358
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 7: for what I want to perpetuate. And the person that

1359
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 7: I was raped was not a woman of color. And

1360
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 7: I'm like, you expect me, as a black man to

1361
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 7: do this, I'm not doing that. I'm just I'm not

1362
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 7: doing it. And it was it was a small short

1363
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 7: film that you know, was supposed to give me some

1364
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 7: opportunities to go and I was like, I'm not doing

1365
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 7: thathing my kid's gonna have to watch people. And the

1366
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 7: thing is the things you put out in the world

1367
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 7: people see and how people getting introduced to you. Sometimes

1368
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 7: they can never get that back. And I never wanted

1369
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 7: someone to see me in that position. And I didn't

1370
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 7: care if the story because the story was actually a

1371
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 7: really good story. But I said, I cannot play that role.

1372
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 7: I just I refuse to do it.

1373
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 1: I'm the same way.

1374
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 5: I have boundaries, like what I show in my body,

1375
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 5: and you know, those intant scenes together and you always

1376
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 5: make sure I'm safe and that I'm protected and covered

1377
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 5: where I don't want to be shown.

1378
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 1: And there's there was a.

1379
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 5: It was I had a scene where it wasn't showing

1380
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 5: the rape, but it was the after math of the race.

1381
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:06,760
Speaker 5: It just illuded that she had gotten rape but it

1382
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 5: just happened. And even in that I was like, but

1383
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 5: it was telling a true story. So I was like, okay,

1384
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 5: as a story and that certain needs to be told.

1385
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 5: So I had an audition for it, but someone else

1386
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 5: ended up getting it. I was it between me and

1387
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 5: this other person. But I even had to call my dad.

1388
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 5: Was like, Dad, like, is it had to do this?

1389
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:28,040
Speaker 5: And he was like, what's the story?

1390
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 3: You know?

1391
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 5: He was like, and what are you having the show?

1392
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 5: Like it's not showing that part. And he was like, okay,

1393
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 5: so it's just the after math and the effect that

1394
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 5: I asked you. But there's like certain I've always said

1395
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:40,160
Speaker 5: I'll never do, like any like demonic movies or movies

1396
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 5: that like will torture my soul afterwards.

1397
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 1: Certain things like I'm scary anyway.

1398
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:50,040
Speaker 7: So yeah, so I'm.

1399
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 1: Always like, there are certain things I just want to do.

1400
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 1: The horror.

1401
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:54,919
Speaker 5: I'm not really into that anyway. So there are certain

1402
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 5: things I won't do. But because of my founded my faith,

1403
01:04:57,920 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 5: I do have boundaries that I said, what a.

1404
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 2: Not yet I've not come across anything yet where I'm

1405
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 2: just like, no, that does not align with you know,

1406
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 2: my spirit. I am very I'm good about taking myself

1407
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 2: out of the equation when I'm offered a role or

1408
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:18,640
Speaker 2: but I take my time and get to know who.

1409
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 3: This person is that I'm about to take one. And

1410
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 3: if I feel like like how you go to your

1411
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 3: father and ask him like, is this someone whose story

1412
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 3: definitely needs to be told? And am I the person

1413
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 3: to do it?

1414
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 2: And if so, I want to fully fully commit if

1415
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 2: that person, whatever insecurities that person might have had, give

1416
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 2: them to me in.

1417
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 3: That moment, you know, because I want to do them.

1418
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 3: I want to do them justice.

1419
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 2: And the only role, the role that I felt that

1420
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 2: the most was when I played Miss Freddy in the

1421
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:53,880
Speaker 2: United States versus Billie Holiday, because he was a person

1422
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 2: whose name was never spoken because of who he was

1423
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:02,640
Speaker 2: during the forty and fifties era, because he chose to

1424
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:05,880
Speaker 2: live honest, honest and out loud, and so I wanted

1425
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:09,440
Speaker 2: to give him everything that I could and that the

1426
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 2: director would allow me to get.

1427
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 1: He did amazing.

1428
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:15,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, you were just in Deliverance and that

1429
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 5: was a movie that it was a lot of different

1430
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 5: conversations around that movie. But I found out that you

1431
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:24,600
Speaker 5: all had a pastor on set that prayed, and you

1432
01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 5: guys were actually telling a true story.

1433
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 6: Yes, and that's what people kind of missed.

1434
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 1: It was like And at first I was like, I'm

1435
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 1: scared to watch it.

1436
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 6: They're like, no, it's a true storm.

1437
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 3: I was like, okay.

1438
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 5: I was like that I can get into it, because

1439
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 5: sometimes when you just feel like they're like making up

1440
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 5: this stuff, but like, that was a real true story

1441
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:39,560
Speaker 5: that when I found you guys had a pastor.

1442
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 1: And that I was like, wow, that's he.

1443
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 2: Was on set the whole time, and he came by

1444
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:48,400
Speaker 2: to everybody's trailer. Well of course you had to say

1445
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 2: it was okay for to come, and he came. He

1446
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:54,440
Speaker 2: prayed and told us why he was doing this, why

1447
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 2: he was called and all this kind of stuff, and

1448
01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 2: it was it was that was that was quite an experience.

1449
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can image and one of the directors, Jackson,

1450
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 4: he was an atheist.

1451
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 6: When y'all started filming that movie. I just found this out.

1452
01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 6: He was an atheist. And now he said his kids

1453
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 6: Christian school and everything. The story, Yeah, he came from.

1454
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 4: He told me this like just last week, and he

1455
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:21,680
Speaker 4: was saying it came from y'all prayed every day before

1456
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 4: y'all got started and everything. And I just was like you,

1457
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 4: I said you was. He's like, no, I was an atheist.

1458
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 4: I just did not believe or anything.

1459
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 6: And he's and he's saying, now, yeah, I will meet

1460
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 6: you wherever.

1461
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 7: I watched my dad bro like my dad, you never

1462
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 7: met my part. I'll never forget this. My father came

1463
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:59,200
Speaker 7: home working from Chase mahind Bank broad Off today. You

1464
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:01,919
Speaker 7: told me you was walking on to college. You said

1465
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:03,840
Speaker 7: you had me the first semester I got you broke

1466
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 7: got to provide and walked away. Little I kid you not.

1467
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 7: He had I think he had a three month contract left.

1468
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 7: The last day of the contract school, you can tell

1469
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 7: the story because I'm not lying. The last day of

1470
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 7: the contract, he's there. You know, he's getting ready to leave.

1471
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:20,720
Speaker 7: No one else is there.

1472
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:21,559
Speaker 3: This is his last day.

1473
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 7: He's like, let me make sure everything is cool. While

1474
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:24,920
Speaker 7: he's walking out of guy saysint Troy, I'm glad I

1475
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:27,840
Speaker 7: saw you. I'm doing a contract over at Sundow. I

1476
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:31,040
Speaker 7: wonder if you're interested. The next day, they hired my

1477
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:36,040
Speaker 7: father as a what is it called down the contractor

1478
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 7: when you help people build their business, a consultant and

1479
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 7: had to get paid time and a half. So he

1480
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 7: got paid more money consulting than he was working.

1481
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:46,240
Speaker 3: At the job.

1482
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:48,639
Speaker 6: And he was at that job for the next four years.

1483
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:53,360
Speaker 7: And when I watch that, I'm like, I'm like my father,

1484
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 7: the time was coming down and he jollied every day

1485
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:56,639
Speaker 7: going to work.

1486
01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 3: And I'm like, you're not stressed.

1487
01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:01,360
Speaker 1: He said, no, got faith, never seen a righteous.

1488
01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 7: You know what scared me though, and y'all can tell

1489
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:08,479
Speaker 7: me what it scared you. I was afraid that if

1490
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:10,720
Speaker 7: I don't have faith like that. I was going to hell,

1491
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 7: and I was like, whatever type of faith my father got,

1492
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:17,680
Speaker 7: I want that. I don't know how to get it.

1493
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 3: And that's what I'm.

1494
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 7: Spending the rest of my life trying to get because

1495
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 7: the way you talk about God, the way you talk

1496
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:27,760
Speaker 7: about God, I just I'm like, y'all have gone through things,

1497
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:30,080
Speaker 7: and I'm like, Okay, maybe it hasn't been my time yet,

1498
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 7: but I will say listening to you speak, you speak,

1499
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:37,599
Speaker 7: you speak as a woman of great knowledge and wisdom,

1500
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:39,799
Speaker 7: but also very genuine.

1501
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:52,400
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, We just don't go don't

1502
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 6: don't go to prison.

1503
01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:05,720
Speaker 3: I appreciate all of them, and I really do.

1504
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:07,360
Speaker 9: Thank you. Questions.

1505
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, well that's that's Chris, what she told me this.

1506
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:13,080
Speaker 7: I was like, all right, well, I'm gonna come here

1507
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 7: and ask because I knew she would, you know, protect

1508
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:16,559
Speaker 7: me with people that's.

1509
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:17,400
Speaker 3: Not gonna look at me like what.

1510
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 7: Is wrong with this guy?

1511
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:26,160
Speaker 1: That's what I wanted.

1512
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 5: I wanted to create a safe space that we all

1513
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:29,720
Speaker 5: could be free to ask the questions that we want

1514
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 5: to ask, talk about our truths, and really just get

1515
01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:32,679
Speaker 5: some knowledge.

1516
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:34,200
Speaker 1: Because Brenda is a wealth of knowledge.

1517
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:35,960
Speaker 9: I asked her questions.

1518
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 5: About everything, We'll be going through a whole dinner and

1519
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 5: I haven't.

1520
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:40,760
Speaker 1: She's like, inside, I'm waiting for it.

1521
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 9: You waited an hour.

1522
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 1: Yes, so seriously, thank you guys. I am.

1523
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:52,800
Speaker 5: I just recently went through a time where I was

1524
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:57,560
Speaker 5: questioning if this whole being out loud about God and

1525
01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 5: Jesus was even worth it, because as we say that

1526
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:04,519
Speaker 5: Christians can be so judgmental, they can be some of

1527
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:09,160
Speaker 5: the I'm talking about just cruel people, you know, especially like.

1528
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 1: On the internet what we see all the time.

1529
01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 5: And as I was being more and more out allowed

1530
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:18,120
Speaker 5: and just transparent about me not being perfect, then it's

1531
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 5: like people come at you even harder. And even got

1532
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:22,040
Speaker 5: to the podcast, I was like, I feel like my

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Speaker 5: podcast becoming too turchy, Like I'm not there. I don't

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01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:27,439
Speaker 5: want to talk about God, Like, let's just keep it

1535
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 5: cool for I want them to see who I am, Like,

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01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:32,720
Speaker 5: let's have different people on and here we are our

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01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:33,840
Speaker 5: first episode talking about guy.

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Speaker 9: Yes, I think like.

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Speaker 8: Something I feel like I always work through is how

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01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:48,960
Speaker 8: do I hold truth and what I believe but also

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01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:52,720
Speaker 8: makes space for your journey and the Internet doesn't allow that.

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01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:56,680
Speaker 8: They just see the one moment and they don't consider, oh,

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01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:58,439
Speaker 8: she's journeying through this the same way.

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Speaker 5: I am, absolutely And that's what I want Christians to

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01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 5: really do more of, like understand that we're all on

1546
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:07,720
Speaker 5: different paths, all in different parts of the journey, but

1547
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:10,160
Speaker 5: we're all on a journey together. And if we give

1548
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:12,360
Speaker 5: each other like Okay, let where are you? Okay, I

1549
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:14,800
Speaker 5: see where you are, let me help you on the way,

1550
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:19,400
Speaker 5: versus like literally like you ever hear doing that, you.

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Speaker 7: Do more.

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01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:28,760
Speaker 8: And I think it we have a responsibility as believers

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01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:31,680
Speaker 8: to see like okay, dang, Chris needs help. So the

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01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:33,479
Speaker 8: first thing I was like, Okay, I'm here to serve you,

1555
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:35,560
Speaker 8: like let me know. And that's what it's about, Like

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01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 8: I'm gonna get on the journey with you together.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I appreciate it all together all right.

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Speaker 5: So I know everyone has amazing things going on and

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Speaker 5: things on horizon. I want an audience to support you

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01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:49,800
Speaker 5: because the kIPS and the Sweeties family, when I tell you,

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Speaker 5: they are right adized and if we say go support it,

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Speaker 5: I know.

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Speaker 1: That I'll start with you. I know you got some

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Speaker 1: dope things going on.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, first and foremost, make sure you Sisters every Wednesday

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01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:04,800
Speaker 7: on BT Make sure you stream is a team on

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Speaker 7: every Thursday on BT Plus. Make sure you're tuning into

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Speaker 7: Netflix November six, Meet Me next Christmas starting Me and

1569
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Speaker 7: Christina Milian. Make sure you're tune in the Dead Ass

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Speaker 7: Podcasts every Wednesday on iHeartRadio wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 7: And in March, make sure you go check out O

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Speaker 7: That on Broadway. I'm a co producer Alongsime Brian Moreland,

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Speaker 7: So go check those things out.

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Speaker 1: Yes, give me.

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Speaker 6: No everybody.

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Speaker 4: I have a book out Pit to Palace Mentality, and

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Speaker 4: it's ten key principles to see your way through your

1578
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Speaker 4: worst situation and some good principles in there. It's available

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Speaker 4: on Amazon. Also, my nonprofit is almost tax Time. Y'all

1580
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Speaker 4: need to write off chance to change, and it's geared

1581
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Speaker 4: towards children who parents are incarcerated and right now we

1582
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 4: have a heavy focus on fighting crime. We know the

1583
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:58,360
Speaker 4: gun balance is super high at Atlanta amongst the ages

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Speaker 4: of twelve to sixteen years old, so we're trying to

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Speaker 4: stop that trajectory or whatever.

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Speaker 6: In the podcast, it's on all platforms. Break Free for

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01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 6: You spell p h R E E. I still go

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Speaker 6: by that.

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Speaker 4: All right, So it's it's available wherever audio is and

1590
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:18,920
Speaker 4: it comes on YouTube every Tuesday. Make sure y'all tune in,

1591
01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 4: make sure y'all support your girl and Christal. I want

1592
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:24,560
Speaker 4: to thank you for allowing me to be on your platform.

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01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:27,479
Speaker 4: Thank you for giving me a space to speak and

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01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:29,600
Speaker 4: you didn't even know me. Thank you for taking a

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01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:32,200
Speaker 4: chance on me. And to the viewers, I want to

1596
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 4: tell y'all that nothing is impossible with God.

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Speaker 7: And.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Your story is so dynamic and I just

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01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:43,519
Speaker 1: love what you're doing, so I'm to have you here.

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Speaker 6: Thank you.

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Speaker 9: If he said, I know those words. I have a

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Speaker 9: podcast called Life and Perspective with Brenda Palmer. It comes

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Speaker 9: out every Monday.

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Speaker 8: Y'all just really be on the gram like dropping gyms

1605
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:11,559
Speaker 8: every day, hanging out with the people, going live.

1606
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:12,280
Speaker 6: It's just what I do.

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Speaker 8: So you can follow me at I am Brenda Palmer everywhere, TikTok, Instagram, YouTube,

1608
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:24,360
Speaker 8: and I have my first book coming out, but it

1609
01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:26,479
Speaker 8: comes out next June, but you gotta follow me to

1610
01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:28,720
Speaker 8: get all the details. It's called The Journey of Yes,

1611
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 8: The everyday Adventure of radical obedience.

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Speaker 9: Was waiting.

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Speaker 1: Is not the one that no one was more accurate.

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Speaker 8: Yes, so it comes out June of twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 8: I'm super duper excited and thank you for creating this

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Speaker 8: space for us.

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Speaker 1: You inspired this. I appreciate thanks for coming all the

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Speaker 1: way from Los Angeles.

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Speaker 9: MS.

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Speaker 1: Love.

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Speaker 3: I think this is my camera here.

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Speaker 1: You got it is.

1623
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Speaker 3: Follow me on social media, Miss Lawrence and my ss Lawrence.

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Speaker 2: I am going into a new journey of real estate

1625
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Speaker 2: while I'm waiting on my next project, which is scheduled

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Speaker 2: to begin in twenty twenty five. There is still a

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Speaker 2: working title. I don't know if they're set on the

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Speaker 2: title yet, but I can tell y'all this because he

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01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:27,720
Speaker 2: put it out there. I'm gonna be a detective. Will

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Speaker 2: be your next.

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Speaker 3: Next detective on your TV screens, just stay tuned.

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Speaker 6: Fine.

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Speaker 2: And also, I started a movement I'm calling it Plated Purpose,

1634
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:42,000
Speaker 2: which I created to bridge the gap, or to aid

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01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:45,400
Speaker 2: and bridge the gap between the black LGBTQ community and

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Speaker 2: the black straight community. It's something that I'm very passionate about,

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01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:51,800
Speaker 2: something that I think is very necessary, only because we

1638
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:55,439
Speaker 2: are so disconnected, and only because we don't fully really

1639
01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 2: understand each other and know each other. So Crystal, thank

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01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:02,160
Speaker 2: you for moments like this, because this is what it is,

1641
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:05,760
Speaker 2: and this is this is very reflective actually of what

1642
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Speaker 2: Play the Purpose is. So follow me and stay tuned

1643
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:10,960
Speaker 2: because there's a lot more coming with Play the Purpose.

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Speaker 10: So well, you can first catch everything well all things

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01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:26,439
Speaker 10: crystal and next, but I also have a bigger, tall

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Speaker 10: men's clothing line coming out one big Fellow, you call

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01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:36,599
Speaker 10: big smooth.

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Speaker 3: It's coming. Don't you worry, It's.

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Speaker 7: Coming, I Q one.

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Speaker 1: Guys, thank you so much.

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Speaker 5: Seriously, I feel like conversations like this are what people

1652
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 5: need you who are seeking that knowledge, who are seeking

1653
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:54,640
Speaker 5: wisdom and just trying to get close to God, and

1654
01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:57,439
Speaker 5: really don't know how I appreciate you. Guys. We were

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01:17:57,479 --> 01:17:59,640
Speaker 5: just a woman evolved and they were saying that the

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Speaker 5: likely ones are gonna be the ones that are rising

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Speaker 5: up touching people, and.

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Speaker 1: I feel like this conversation is definitely gonna do that.

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Speaker 5: So one of the reasons I love the conversations that

1660
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:16,519
Speaker 5: we have on this show is because they leave me

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01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:19,600
Speaker 5: so full and I learned so much. One of my

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Speaker 5: biggest takeaways from this talk is, Guys, we are so

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01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 5: much more like than not on this phase journey, So

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01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:30,439
Speaker 5: give each other grace, don't be so judgmental and be

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01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 5: there for one another. Thank you, guys so much for

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01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:39,240
Speaker 5: spending some time with me today. You can follow me

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Speaker 5: on all platforms at love Chris Ornee, and you can

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Speaker 5: also follow our show at Keep It Positive Sweetie. If

1669
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Speaker 5: you wanna write into our positive Outcomes listener letter, you

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Speaker 5: can send us an email at keep It Positive Sweetie

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Speaker 5: at gmail dot com. In the meantime, in between time,

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Speaker 5: y'all already know what to do. Keep it Positive, sweety.

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Speaker 5: I'll see you guys next time.

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Speaker 9: Gitar a gitar

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Speaker 5: A gitar