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Now here's a highlight from 19 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: coast to coast am on I Heart Radio. Tell me 20 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: about the book Erie Florida. Okay, Well, while we were 21 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: doing the Haunted House for years, I was like, okay, um, 22 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: we could have a werewolf jump out at somebody. But 23 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: what if we found oh wait, there's the Skunk Cape 24 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: of Florida. Oh there's you know, Dogman in the Ocala 25 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: National Forest. And suddenly it was you know, let's start 26 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: basing these on local legends and so and of course 27 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: we we used to quote call it hell viewing them up. 28 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: We would make them a bit spookier and all that. 29 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 1: And so for years and years I collected all these 30 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: stories and decided to be I was gonna be Stephen 31 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: King a couple of years ago, and I wrote this 32 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: fictionalized versions of all these stories in a book called 33 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: thirty one Tales a Helve You Cemetery. And they're you know, 34 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: creepy little nods to the legends. But I got all 35 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: these emails saying, well, you say it's based on this legend, 36 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: Well what's that legend? And I assumed everybody knew these 37 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: local legends, and apparently nobody did. So that's what this 38 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: book came out to be from History Press. And you 39 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: had fun doing this too, it seems, oh yeah, we uh, 40 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: three thousand miles driving around Florida without ever leaving the 41 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: state and uh and you know, historical archives, museums, you know, 42 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: nature trails, abandoned cities, all kinds of fun stuff. Favorite 43 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: story in the book, Oh, my gosh, my favorite story 44 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: in the book. There's a lot of good ones, but 45 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: my absolute favorite was one, uh that we got when 46 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,399 Speaker 1: we originally put up our website for the Haunted House. 47 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: I put up an email address. And this will pay 48 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: a little bit of the time period. It was a 49 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: Geo cities website and my address was a O L 50 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: A little bit let's say, oh well exactly uh and 51 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: the letter and I got this nice, lovely email from 52 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: this little lady in Lake Wales, Florida, which is kind 53 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 1: of a spooky area. It has the infamous Spook Hill, 54 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: which is one of those gravity hills, and has a 55 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: Buck Tower Gardens, which is a beautiful is the highest 56 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: point in Florida, a whole two d and twenty three 57 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: ft above sea level the and um, you know it's 58 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: bigger in space mountain and uh. Anyway, the tail there 59 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: is this lady lived out on this uh orange grove 60 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,679 Speaker 1: out there with her family, and this is in the 61 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: late forties, early fifties, and they notice all their fruits 62 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: disappearing and they don't know what to do about it. 63 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: So they put out traps, thinking it might be fruit rats, 64 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,119 Speaker 1: but normally they leave like just holes in the fruit 65 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: and stuff, but this fruit is just gone. They type 66 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: some ropes, thinking, you know, maybe somebody's coming to steal 67 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: their stuff. And what they catch is a little man, naked, 68 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: little man who with a full beard, so they know 69 00:03:55,200 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: he's not like like a gnome or eleprecon. He's bigger 70 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: than a bottle of water. The lady who told me 71 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: this story, and um, they don't know what to do 72 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: with them, so they called the police, and the police 73 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: come out and they they don't know what to do 74 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 1: with the guy. They can't handcuff him because he's so tiny, 75 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: and you know, the best at best, they got him 76 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: for trespassing. Um, so you know, and this is late forties, 77 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: early fifties, so they just, you know, let it go. 78 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: It's like just yeah, whatever, this is obviously not who's 79 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: stealing your fruit. So they let him go. And then 80 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: a couple of days later, more fruits missing, so they 81 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: set up more traps and sure enough they catch him again. 82 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: Then they call the police and the police are like, okay, 83 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: we'll take him, and they didn't have anything to put 84 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: him in, so they put him in one of the 85 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: orange crates. I mean, how small was He was no 86 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: bigger than water, but maybe six eight inches the lady. Yeah, 87 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: so yeah, Now they weren't freaking out too much because 88 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: Ripley's was around at that point, you know, as if 89 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: you know, we had ringling down wintered down here, so 90 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: people were kind of used the circus folk and you know, 91 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: Tom Thumb and all that. Completely out of the ordinary. 92 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: Did it communicate? It was screaming in a language they 93 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: couldn't understand. They were so they didn't know what it 94 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: was screaming at them. So the police took it to 95 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:18,679 Speaker 1: find a translator, thinking it's Spanish or Portuguese or something 96 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: and u And once they leave, you think that's the 97 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,239 Speaker 1: end of the story, and that's kind of the beginning. 98 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: The next night, the house is pelted with rocks, the 99 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: trees are going crazy and branches are being thrown at them, 100 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 1: and they don't they come outside and there's dozens of 101 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: these little guys and at the house, so they called 102 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: the cops again. The police come back with the little guy. 103 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 1: They obviously they can't figure out what language he's speaking 104 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 1: and all this, and you know, it's nice to know that, 105 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: you know, policing hasn't changed that much in you know, 106 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: sixty years. They just let him loose because they're like, 107 00:05:55,520 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: this is too much paper, So they let loose and 108 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: then all the people, you know, the little guys, just 109 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: run off into the woods, into the orange grove and 110 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: they're like, what do we do in the coups, like, oh, 111 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: I guess you're gonna have to deal with your orange 112 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: is a bit disappeared. Thankfully, they find a farm hand 113 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: from a nearby farm who tells them that it's red caps. 114 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: They're you know, they're fairies or gnomes and you've offended 115 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: them in some way and well known in that area, 116 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: I guess exactly a lot of Irish farm hands and stuff, 117 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: and they're thinking this is maybe a different strain, because 118 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: that's you know, they're they know, they're speaking a different 119 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: language and all that. So they so they find out 120 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: they have to get a blessed rock from Ireland and 121 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 1: they go through the trouble yeah yeah, some sort of 122 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: stone of some sort, yeah exactly, And they go through 123 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: the trouble of getting this stone ship to them from 124 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: Ireland and they put it in the Orange Grove and 125 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: never had any problems. After lady was adorable, told me 126 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: the whole story in the directions, and sadly she passed 127 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: away a few years ago. This is one of our 128 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: like I said, one of our older stories. And I 129 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: was like, well, I can't use this in the book 130 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: because I'll never get any verification. Sure enough, one of 131 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: the original police officers contacted me and said, oh, yeah, 132 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: it was a true story. It is a true story. 133 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: So we went out and followed the old directions that 134 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: the lady gave me, and we found this orange grove 135 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: that's withinside a buck tower and it's this old dirt 136 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: road you're driving on. It's it's amazing. It's like driving 137 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: through Florida, you know. You realize what the tourists were 138 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: going through and uh. And you go into this orange 139 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: grove and we're following the directions to where the rock 140 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: is and we find the clearing and we're like, yes, 141 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: this is it. Now it's owned by a big conglomerate 142 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: now that sells orange juice. Imagine that. And so we 143 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: go to get out of the car and are all 144 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: these white boxes on the side of the road and 145 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: we're like, what are these white boxes? And sure enough, 146 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: that's where they keep their bees to pollinate the oranges. 147 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: So so we didn't get a picture of the rock. Jeez, 148 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: what a story now any more reports of these little critters? 149 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: Apparently not, but you know it's it's a fun story. 150 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: And carry Schultz, my illustrator, did an amazing illustration for 151 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: the gnome and uh and the cop, who was super 152 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: nice about it was he was just like, look, I 153 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: can't I don't know what I can say. It was weird. Yeah, 154 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: that's the best I can say. So putting together the book, 155 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: was it easy or difficult to find the stories? Well, 156 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: I'd like I'd had mostly stories for years. I think 157 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: the hard part was narrowing it down. We had so 158 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 1: many stories we wanted ones. We we did the you know, 159 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: the old weekly world news used to be if one 160 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: person told it to you, it's real, use it. And 161 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: then you know, modern journalism likes three to five sources. 162 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: We kind of went split the difference. As long as 163 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: long as we had two sources, we could run with 164 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 1: it and narrowed the stories down quite a bit. And 165 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: that's that was kind of how we went tell me 166 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: about the story of the Wimus Grave. Oh my gosh, Wiedemus. 167 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: That was one of the craziest places we went to. Uh. 168 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: It is near Fernandina Beach, which is way up on 169 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: the northeast corner of Florida, almost the Georgia border. And um, 170 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: there's this beautiful place called the Eggans Creek Greenway, and 171 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: that is this just beautiful uh nature preserve and it's 172 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 1: you know, got wetlands, it's got all this other stuff. 173 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: Is this amazing place. And there's this other side of 174 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: it that is not on the map, that's no longer 175 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: part of the Eggan's Creek green Way, And there's a 176 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: bridge over to it, and suddenly you're in this old 177 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: live oak forest and it's right across from Fernandeta Beach 178 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: High School. And I think the picture is up on 179 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: your Coast to Coast website. It's this abandoned nature trail. 180 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: And of course there's a legend behind it that the 181 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 1: high school students tell that if you walk down this 182 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: creepy trail, that says it was a student nature trail, 183 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: but the school has no records of it ever actually 184 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: being used. Um. And you walk down it and you 185 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: find this old oak tree, and at the base of 186 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: the oak trees a stone where it's the grave of 187 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: a witch from a lost colony that might predate Roanoak 188 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: on this island. And the witch had a pet demon 189 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: named Wickedemus, And if you say the demon's name three times, 190 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: the wind will roar, the earth will shake, and you know, 191 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: and the demon will give you a piece of its power. 192 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: And and then there's other versions of the legend where 193 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: you have to go there three nights and the girl 194 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: will haunt your dreams and and give you, you know, 195 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: witch witchery and spells. And then my absolute favorite version though, 196 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: was if you go there on four nights, Uh, she'll 197 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 1: kill you. She'll kill you. Yeah, she'll kill you in 198 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 1: your sleep. So I didn't see an upside to that one. 199 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: So we didn't try that one. That's smart mark. But 200 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: we did say Wickedemus a few times and the ground 201 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: shook really as the wind picked up and it roared, 202 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: and we tried to do video for the website, and 203 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 1: the wind is so loud we couldn't actually record anything. 204 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 1: At that point, you were summoning up this entity somehow 205 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 1: who knows what was but it was the first time Carrie, 206 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: my illustrator, who's uh a open mind but you know, 207 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: but has not really had any crazy experiences, that was 208 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: the first time I saw her shaken because it was 209 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: definitely unusual. 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