1 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: The Los Angeles Rams are back from the bye and 2 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: we are back on Between the Horns, presented by your 3 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: Southern California tell you the Dealers. Hello everyone, my name 4 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: is jab Long. It is San Francisco forty nine Ers 5 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: Week and I always enjoy bringing into Marco Far for 6 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: rivalry week. De Far, good to see you. How was 7 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: your open date? Not so bad? Very busy. Yeah, when 8 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: we don't have Ram stuff, it's it. I've become super dad, 9 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: or at least they try to make me super dad. 10 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: I think I held up pretty well this week. How 11 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: about you? Same thing? Right? Yeah? Football is the break 12 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: from the real work, so we're like minded in that way. 13 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: De Marco. I also want to introduce you to an 14 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,639 Speaker 1: old friend. The gang is back together here. This might 15 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: be the season debut between the Horns for our next guest, 16 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: Maurice Jones Drew do you remember him? Stop it listen. 17 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: I apologize. Work schedule has been kind of crazy, Like 18 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: you guys said, when the Rams aren't there, I swear, 19 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: if feels like everyone could just call you to do things, 20 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: like we know you're not working this weekend, so just 21 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 1: show up to all these different things. But I'm back 22 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: I'm back in full effect in an undisclosed place, a 23 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: secret location right now. As you can tell. Protective custody. 24 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: I'm a protective custody right now from the other jobs. 25 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 1: Good to see you, man, Wow, all right, see you 26 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: got Ravens Bucks Thursday night football and then anything else 27 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: this weekend before you can join us at so far? 28 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: Oh man, we got the first round the playoffs for 29 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: the little kids on a Saturday. We're the one seed, 30 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 1: so we'll figure that out that I have a daylessal 31 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 1: high school football against Amador Valley. We'll see how it goes. 32 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: But you know, just just chugging away, chugging away, chugging 33 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: away the Marco softball showdowns. Man, We'll pitching this weekend. 34 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: We start basketball next week. So like I said, man, 35 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: I can't wait to get back to football. I need 36 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: to get away from like that stuff and get back 37 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: to just being on the sideline. Let's get it. And 38 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: what a way to get back into it. I mean, 39 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: the back half of this schedule, starting a weekend against 40 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty nine ers. It's so fine. An 41 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: NFC championship game rematch to Marco. Where's your mind? Where's 42 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: your heart, Where are your emotions as you prepare to 43 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: welcome San Francisco again. Actually, my mind in my heart 44 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: are on the defensive side of the football for the 45 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: Rams right now and doing quite well. They're playing great ball, 46 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, or I should say they're dialed in. 47 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the guys that are performing the best, 48 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: your top flight players, They're easy to find them the 49 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: stat sheet. Aaron Donald's at the top sacks, tackles for 50 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: loss a Sean Robinson is a guy that's I think 51 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: he's fourth on the team and unassisted tackles. He has 52 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: been great in that four technique. Jalen Ramsey has been 53 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: an absolute monster out there. But there are some guys, 54 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: even where the defense is playing this well, there are 55 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: some guys that really haven't stepped up or stepped their 56 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: game up yet. So looking for great games or somebody 57 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 1: else that knows tackle spots to really get production from there, 58 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: you really need somebody on the outside. Hopefully it's Floyd 59 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: that could become that edge. If you can't rush the 60 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 1: pastor that's fine, that's great, that elephant won't fly. But 61 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: what you can do against the team like the forty 62 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: nine ers is set that edge, turn everything back in 63 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: and make sure that Bobby Wagner Ernest Jones could make 64 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: the players over the top. If you play great team 65 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: ball against San Francisco, you'll have a chance to beat him. 66 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: Same foe, but a different look, especially on offense. Maurice, 67 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 1: we've not yet got your take on the Christian McCaffrey trade. 68 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: Why don't we start there. Wow, I wasn't very happy 69 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: when they broke on TV, to be honest with you, 70 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: I think my bias came out like this is ridiculous. 71 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: I knew the Rams were in play for it, but 72 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: obviously the Niners offer a little bit more, and he's 73 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: a perfect fit for what they do, right, and guy 74 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: another playmaker that allows Jimmy Groppolin not to hold the ball. 75 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: He gets the ball out pretty quickly. As we see here. 76 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: Checkdowns can turn into touchdowns when you get the ball 77 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: to Christian McCaffrey. Then, on top of that, he's a 78 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: great zone runner. So to me, it's like the rich 79 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: get richer in some way shape, or former es pressing 80 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: in this kind of Kyle Shanahan boot offense. You see 81 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: the way Kittle's playing, all these things are going to 82 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: start to open up because you have to focus on 83 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey. So the Nashville Football League, it's not happy 84 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: for the Rams. I'm not happy for the Niners. They 85 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: got him a really good player. Hopefully he can stay healthy. 86 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: Hasn't been healthy last couple of years. Yeah, speaking of health, 87 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I think, why don't we just say for 88 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: now that the Rams are as healthy as they've been 89 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: all season? De Marco, We'll see if it's the healthiest 90 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 1: that they become all season. Happy to become wrong on 91 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: that front. I would love for them to get even healthier. 92 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: About some key pieces back on defense, including starters like 93 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: Troy Hill, like rookie Kobe Durrant. Maybe an offensive line 94 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: that's as healthy as it's been since early in the 95 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 1: season with Brian Allen coming back in the middle. It's 96 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: early in the week, still relatives of this game, But 97 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: you look at the forty nine ers side of the equation, 98 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: Eric Armstead not practicing, or old friend Sampson Abucom not practicing. 99 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: Kyle Uschek sounds like he has a broken finger, so 100 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 1: he may not be in front of Christian McCaffrey. Trent 101 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: Williams still trying to get back at left tackle, and 102 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: perhaps most most important to this game, Deebo Samuel's hamstring 103 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: has flareda you know, that's the one that got me. 104 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: I mean, that's the one that's really unpredictable and can 105 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: really you know, hamstring him or slow him down on 106 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: game day. So I was happy about that. I saw 107 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: us check was on the injury report, right, I'm like, 108 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: oh yeah, wait, it's got a finger. Dang, He's gonna 109 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: be out there, right, So Armstead, you assume he's gonna 110 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 1: be out there. So the forty nine ers, regardless of 111 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: how they feel, when they play the Rams, they become superman. 112 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: So expect those guys to be on the field. But 113 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 1: Murray's I think you hit it. Watching San Francisco's offense, 114 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: it's interesting. They do everything bass ackwards. It's the exact 115 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 1: opposite of the Rams. The run game is so intricate, 116 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: it's so detailed, it's so hard to stop, and the 117 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: passing game is basic. It's the opposite of the RAMS. 118 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 1: So I said this thinking about this this morning. Whoever 119 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 1: gets fired first, Shanahan or Sean McVay, you should hire 120 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: the other guy, because if you put these two guys together, 121 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: oh my god, you won't be able to stop him. 122 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: But yeah, the run game, it's so weird. So they'll 123 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: come out an eleven personnel with us Check as the 124 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: only running back. Then they have Debo in as the 125 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: running back in the dot. So then they give you 126 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: that wham look right, that what we're used to. The 127 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: fullback comes down and wham's that nose tackle. But it's 128 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: not a wham block. Us Check comes up, fits up 129 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 1: and he's zone blocking. So they give Debo a two 130 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 1: way go, so he's got at worst a plus five 131 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: play side. But if that backside safety or linebacker overruns it, 132 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: it's a home run going back the other way. It's 133 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: just it's a nightmare. It makes you miserable to think 134 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: about it and play against it and just worry about 135 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 1: it all week long. So to me, it's typical Niner stuff. 136 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: It keeps you up at night. They're ambi it's an 137 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 1: ambient football team. I mean, you really need something to 138 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 1: help you sleep when you think about this stuff. But 139 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: it all comes down to that front seven Aaron Donald 140 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: and company, the guys I just mentioned, if you accept 141 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: the challenge, especially at the edge on Kittle with Williams 142 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: out there. If you accept the challenge and be physical, 143 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: buy that extra three yards, that tough small, give ground, 144 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: grudgingly type stuff on the edge, and force everything back 145 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: to the middle, you'll have a chance to stop them 146 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: and beat them. If you let second and eight turn 147 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: into first and ten, you've got no shot. If you 148 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: let second and eight turn into third and five and 149 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: make Garoppolo have to throw it, now you have a 150 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: chance to be I would say for me, if we're 151 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: just talking about overall everything Vsaw with the way that 152 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: they can see, the Chiefs offensively played the Niners. That 153 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: is the playbook you want to go against. Right, Allow, 154 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: they ran the ball, but they had their tackles pass set, 155 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: so boss running up the field to get to the quarterback, 156 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: creating running lens and so you can actually steal some 157 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: things there. The passing game was quick, right. They beat 158 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: them with some flysweep motions. Fly the motion, flysweep and 159 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: hand the ball off. They they were able to use 160 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: their aggressiveness and turn into their weakness. And so I 161 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: think if you're shot McVeigh, you have to kind of 162 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: look back and say, Okay, what do the Chiefs do 163 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: and how can we figure out a way to do it. 164 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: Maybe we're not running the ball into the middle of 165 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: the defense. Maybe we're on the edges with the flash 166 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: we saw against Carolina Panthers. Maybe it is a quick 167 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: bubble screen outside let guys go. Maybe it is some 168 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: of the other things that we've done, the play action passed, 169 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: getting those guys move sideways and then getting the ball 170 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: out quickly. And so I think again you can if 171 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: you watch that game and you kind of see exactly 172 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: what the Chiefs did and how they were able to attack. 173 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: I want to say Patrick Mahome ding and sacking too 174 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter because the ball was getting out quick. 175 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: I mean he was brought from one, two to three, 176 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 1: and I mean the ball was getting out and if 177 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: they weren't there, he was checking the ball down. They 178 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: were able to take some shots down the field as 179 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: some of the guys were um looking in the backfield. 180 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 1: Ward was looking in the backfield. That's the guy that 181 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: was with the Chiefs. But this is the thing, and DeMarco, 182 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: you said, use check. Well, from my understanding, he had 183 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: finger surgery, so he may not be playing. He broke 184 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 1: his finger. He's a fullback. He's gonna be out there, 185 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: you know. That I'm just not He's not the fullbacks 186 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: that we know. He lines up a wide receivers. He 187 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,079 Speaker 1: needs to use his hands right, he needs to catch 188 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 1: the ball. So I don't know if he'll be out there, 189 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:04,719 Speaker 1: and I think from my understanding is they're kind of 190 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 1: leaning towards him not playing this week and then possibly 191 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: the next one. But even with that being said, this 192 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 1: is gonna take a total team effort. Special teams just 193 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,839 Speaker 1: have to It's gonna have to be on the point offense. 194 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to get the ball off quickly. You 195 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: can't have three and ounce against them. You have to 196 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: make sure that you give your defense rest. Because again, 197 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: we know what the Niners are gonna do each every 198 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: time we play the Niners, they run the same game plan. 199 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: They're gonna run the toss zone. Okay, they're gonna put 200 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: Debo in the backfield. They're gonna hand the ball to Debo. 201 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: They're gonna run wide receiver screens to Devo. They're gonna 202 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: throw the ball a little five yard outs to Kittle. Right, 203 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: They're gonna do the same thing over and over again. 204 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 1: Because what happens the Rams haven't stopped it, right, you 205 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: stopped one time in eight games. So to me, it's 206 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: just you have to understand the game plan that you 207 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: have to have going against this Niner team. Each week 208 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,599 Speaker 1: is different, right, this Niner team, you gotta play a 209 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,959 Speaker 1: little tighter coverage. Right, You can't be sitting at eight 210 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: yards ten yards off because you're just gonna get a 211 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: little two yard routes. You gotta tighten down and forced 212 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo to hold that ball on extra beat so 213 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald company can get there the offensively, you got 214 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: to stretch those guys horizontally first before who's that a company? 215 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: I know Aaron's gonna get there. Who else is gonna 216 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: get there? Well? I mean right exactly. Let me I'll 217 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: say this. Mcglinchay hasn't been playing well at right tackle 218 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: for the Niners. He's been gold a lot. Yeah, he's 219 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: been holding a lot. So whoever is over there, if 220 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: it's Leonard Floyd, if it's Justin Hollins, whoever it may be, 221 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: whoever you can get to get some immediate pressure on 222 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: that off that right tackle. That's what you want to 223 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: That's what you want to pick on. Let leave Trent 224 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 1: Williams alone. Let's leave him alone. Come on now, with 225 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: the guys on the other side, When you get in 226 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: those passive situations and corral that pocket and you and you, 227 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: you have a chance to really force Jimmy Garoppol will 228 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: be the Jimmy Groppol we saw an ANC championship game. 229 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: I mean, to DeMarco's point, other than Aaron Donald, who's 230 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: got multiple sacks on this roster. The good news is 231 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner and Jalen Ramsey have them. The bad news 232 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: is you're starting middle linebacker in your corner. Are the 233 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: other pass rushers with multiple sacks? And I get it, 234 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: sacks are not the end all be all right, but 235 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 1: the pressure metrics underlying those tell the same story. I 236 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: do want to get to the offense and if the 237 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: rams are due and what Van Jefferson might mean to 238 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: breaking out against the forty ninety, but real quick. On 239 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: the point that you guys made, My key for the 240 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: week is yards after catching, yards after contact essentially the 241 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: same thing, whether it's out of the backfield or through 242 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: the quick passing game that you reference. This is not 243 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: just about Debo taking it to the house at Levi's 244 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: in week four, though that's certainly top of mind. It's 245 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: also as we transition to the offense, who besides Cooper 246 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: Cup can make somebody miss and make a play, right, 247 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: because there's going to be somebody or run through somebody. Yep, 248 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: same deal. Because when I think about the first meeting 249 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: this season with San Francisco, remember they were coming off 250 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: one of the most anemic offensive performances of the Kyle 251 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: Shanahan era. They lost at Denver, and they were transitioning 252 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: back to Jimmy Garoppolo and they didn't really have an 253 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: offensive feel or identity. Of course, the Rams cured that 254 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: for them, unfortunately, and they've gotten going offensively. Now now 255 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: it's kind of the other direction. I get that Patrick 256 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: Mahomes and the Chiefs are elite, but statistically that was 257 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: one of the most egregious defensive performances in modern San 258 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine ers history. Okay, Kansas City was averaging 259 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: ten yards per play until garbage time of that game. 260 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: How much of that, to Marise's point, can you replicate 261 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: from Andy Reid's playbook and design? And how much of 262 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: that do you expect to get cleaned up by Demiko 263 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: Ryans in the forty nine I was with a lot 264 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: I expect to be Garryans to have this defense humming, 265 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: and I was so disappointed that the forty nine ers 266 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: took an el took a beating before you played the Rams, 267 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: because the best thing in the NFL is to get 268 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: beat because you're gonna fix your problems and it's going 269 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: to motivate you. There's nothing worse than the losing week 270 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 1: in the National Football We all know this, right, especially 271 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 1: one where you got your buck kick and then you're 272 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: facing the foe that you feel you're superior. Then so 273 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: they're gonna be at their best. But there's a lot 274 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 1: of stuff you can take from that. Here's what I 275 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: need on the offensive side of the ball for the Rams. 276 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: Brian Allen's coming back, right. I need that mean nasty, 277 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: just that guy that when they drafted him, the dude 278 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: that wasn't afraid to just get his nose bloody and 279 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 1: get in there. You need to be attached to Fred 280 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: Warner on every single play. I don't care if you 281 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: get a fifteen yard penalty. Every single play you should 282 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 1: be pushing, shove and trying to cut this guy, getting 283 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: them on the ground because more often than not, the 284 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: run play called will be dependent on you getting to 285 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 1: him anyway, and the forty nine ers do a great 286 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: job of covering them up. They cut the lineup, the 287 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: line moves, They got some big, strong guys that hold 288 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:29,559 Speaker 1: the offensive line up so he can be free to 289 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: the football. But eventually it's going to come down to 290 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: can that center get to Fred Warner and get him 291 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: away from the football or on the deck. So I 292 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: want that mean and nasty Brian Allen, that guy. I 293 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: want him to be back this week versus you want 294 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,839 Speaker 1: to feel the difference between having your starting center in 295 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 1: play against the forty nine ers versus your emergency center. 296 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: Jeremiah Colone laugh, I'm trying to say everything but dirty. 297 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: But even with that, that guy to be out there 298 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: for the Niners finish and jing. We are expecting, we 299 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: are hoping that Van Jefferson will make his twenty two 300 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: debut for the Los Angeles Rams. I'm excited about that. 301 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: I'm optimistic about that. But let's also just check our expectations. 302 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: Are we putting too much on Van Jefferson's shoulders here 303 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: to unlock what's been a sluggish offense so far for LA. 304 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: I think there's certain things in the National Football League 305 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: and in football in general, that one player can do. Right. 306 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: If you look at the Buffalo Bills, they had Stefan 307 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: Diggs and he puts everyone back into their proper place. Right, 308 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: Cole Beasley at the time goes to the slot receiver game, 309 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: there will become number two. Right. You had Emmanuel Sanders 310 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: who they were trying to figure out, So they had 311 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: some guys, but once they put Stefan Digs, he became 312 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: the number one guy the offense float. I think the 313 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: same thing with the Los Angeles Rams. If you put 314 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: Van Jefferson at that third guy. Now Ben's chronic is 315 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: not doing all the slot work and all the dirty 316 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: work and the fullback and this is that now I 317 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: can give him a break, which then makes him obviously 318 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: more fresh. He has the ability to come in and 319 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: play fullback, and then we can do some different things. 320 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: I think I wouldn't say it's too much pressure, but 321 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: I do think that he comes in, he puts guys 322 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: back in position where you need to be to gives 323 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: with Stafford that third option that he can count on, right, 324 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: that he knows will be where he needs to be. 325 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: That is that deep threat, but also can run the 326 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: other routes. Right, if you put two two at while 327 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: out there, ninety percent of the time he's running fifteen 328 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: twenty yards down the field on his route, So you 329 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: can kind of you don't know that with Van Jefferson, 330 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: So it kind of opens the offense up in that way. 331 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: And the other thing I'll say about this, if you 332 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: look at a kind of around the league, and again 333 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: there's always one guy. If you look at what aj 334 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: Brown did to the Philadelphia Eagles, all of a sudden, 335 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: now Davante Smith is the number two, and look at 336 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: his production, and so maybe this can be the reverse 337 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: thing where we're not just leading on Cooper Cup every time, 338 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: we're not just getting Alan Robinson in the red zone. 339 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: Now all of a sudden, you have Van Jefferson who 340 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: could do some other work on the third corner that 341 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: it will give Stafford that ability to get there. Right. 342 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: Maybe it's sometimes we've seen score and it's not a 343 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: knock on him. Sometimes he just is taking too long 344 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: for him and get to that spot where Stafford needs 345 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: him to be. Or maybe he's not. You know, it's 346 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: just it didn't look um, what's the word, I'm it 347 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: just didn't look clean. If that makes sense, right when 348 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: when Van Jeffership was out there, even in the Super Bowl, 349 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: it looked clean. He just wasn't making plays like he 350 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: was open right running down the field. He just didn't 351 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: go make the plays they need to be made. So again, 352 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: that might be the piece that you're looking for. Also, um, 353 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: I and we've talked about this. We've talked about this 354 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: in Cincinnati, and you know, obviously there's a lot of 355 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: pressure of getting put on Stafford. But watching that Carolina game, 356 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: back Alaric Jackson did an awesome job at left tackle 357 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: against one of the top young pass rusher in the 358 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: National Football League. And maybe, and I'm just club at 359 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: left tackle. I know we talked about this, right, the 360 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: reason Tristan Worth played right tackle was because this dude 361 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: was a left and maybe that is his natural position. 362 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that no, Boom can't come back 363 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: and and be awesome. Right now, you might have stole one. 364 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: You might have found a guy that yeah, yeah, it 365 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: is stealing demarc Maurice. You know what I'm saying. I'm 366 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: saying that the organization you stole one, saying that you 367 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: found an undout the guy who can be a really 368 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: good left tackle in the National Football League, right, and 369 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 1: so if you had this guy and he can into beated, 370 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: maybe you can move note Boom to left guard, maybe 371 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: you can move them to right guard. Maybe you can 372 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: solidify this offensive line in a different way if this 373 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: guy can be there. And so this is an awesome unit. 374 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 1: I think Sean said it best in one of his interviews. 375 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 1: He was like, um, we have to It was something 376 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 1: about circumstance and he was like, this may allow us 377 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: to do some different things. I think he was talking 378 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,479 Speaker 1: about a lyric being the left tackle and then being 379 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 1: able to be versatile with note Boom and maybe going 380 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: to different places. Well, I know this is week eight, 381 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 1: but based off what you guys are saying, it does 382 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: feel a bit like week one. You get a fresh 383 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: start here, right. We'll get to the Seahawks down the schedule. 384 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,199 Speaker 1: There are a problem for December and January, but for 385 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: right now, as you look at the structure of the 386 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,479 Speaker 1: NFC West, this is a great way to open coming 387 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: off your bye week. And I knew there are some 388 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: tendencies DeMarco in terms of the personnel that you have, 389 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 1: but this is the first time that we've seen it. 390 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: Maybe the closest that we've seen it to the way 391 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 1: they drew it up in training camp or this offseason, 392 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: where you have Brian Allen in the middle. Yes, where 393 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: you have hopefully a healthy and productive left tackle, and 394 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: like we said with Van, you have your eleven personnel 395 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 1: largely the way that you drew it up through free agency, 396 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: and maybe even an early down running game with Darryl 397 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: Henderson to go with it. You know, I've heard coaches 398 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 1: do this before where you reset the season, everybody zero 399 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 1: zero and we're going to play it on out here. 400 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: So I think the same applies here. This is the 401 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: group that you thought you would have for the most part, 402 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: and everyone's coming back for the most part, and you've 403 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 1: had a week off, so you have a chance to 404 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 1: get reconnected as a coaching staff and as a group 405 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 1: of players. What are we trying to do? What can 406 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: we do? And what's out there in front of us? 407 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: So and I'm with you, man, this is a great 408 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: way to start Week one with San Francisco because you 409 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: have no choice but to be amped up and to 410 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 1: be ready because you know they are. And look if 411 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: any team in the world that gets beat by the 412 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: same team over and over and over again. The one 413 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 1: thing you want to do is stop that, and I'll 414 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 1: go back to my group in ninety nine. I'll keep 415 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: saying this, There's no way we win that Super Bowl 416 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: unless we beat the Niners first, because I think they 417 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: had beaten us like seventeen straight before then. It was ridiculous. 418 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: We'd gotten close, we couldn't beat him. That psychological edge 419 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 1: started to build until we said enough. So hopefully this group, 420 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 1: this current group of Rams, feels the same way about 421 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:33,719 Speaker 1: San Francisco. Look, Sam fran is your nemesis. Everything flows 422 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: off what you do versus them in the NFC West. 423 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: So here they come to your house. You just came 424 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 1: off a win. You went into the buy feeling good 425 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: about yourself. You're getting guys back, you're starting center's back. 426 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: Troy Hill's coming back, and he teased me versus Carolina. 427 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: He really did. I saw him working out pregame and 428 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: I said, try, are you up or down? He goes, nope, 429 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: I'm down. I'm like, ah, dang, well, good, get ready 430 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: for this one coming up. So you're getting your dogs 431 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: back on both sides of the football, and you're facing 432 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 1: your biggest rival in the NFC West. So Hopefully this 433 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: team can rally, regroup, be ready, and play with a 434 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: lot of energy comes Sunday, DeMarco, let me devetail off 435 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: of that. I'm not going to go through the whole 436 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 1: regular season losing streak. I don't think it really stands 437 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: because the Rams won the most important one, which was 438 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: the NFC Championship game in their home stadium. But going 439 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: back in time, they've had some opportunities to step on 440 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: the neck of their biggest rival, and they've let those 441 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: opportunities pass them by. And because of that, the forty 442 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: nine ers have gotten back on their feet and found 443 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: some success. I'm talking about Week four of last year. 444 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: Niners were one and two coming off of this year, 445 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,199 Speaker 1: coming off a gruesome laws at Denver, missed that opportunity 446 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: to send them to one in three. Of course, Week 447 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: eighteen last year it was a win and get in 448 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: scenario for the forty nine ers. The Rams ended up 449 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: letting them into the postseason field. All's well, that ends well, 450 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 1: forty Niners kind of cleared a path back to Sofi 451 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: Stadium for them. But Week ten, twenty one, more's the 452 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 1: forty nine Ers were three and five and in the tailspin. 453 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: Remember they lost five of their last six, and they 454 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: got back on track Week twelve, twenty twenty forty nine, 455 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: ers four and six in riding a three game losing 456 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: skid beat the Los Angeles Rams. Like so many of 457 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 1: these opportunities going back to say, you know what, throw 458 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: some dirt on your biggest rival, whether or not it's 459 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: the death knel for their season. You can put them 460 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: in a deep enough hole that their year might be over. 461 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: Now it's still the end of October. I think it's 462 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 1: too early for that. But what if you were to 463 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: send them to three straight losses on the back of 464 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: that Christian McCaffrey trade. What if you were to spill 465 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 1: them to last place in the NFC West. Well, I'll 466 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: tell you this, they feel that way. I actually I 467 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 1: was talking to you guys before the show about how 468 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 1: I was getting text by one of their front office people, 469 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 1: a good friend of mine, and you know, he was 470 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: talking about a UCLA thing, and I was like, well, 471 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: I thought he was talking about the Niners coming back 472 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 1: down here to so Fa and I was like, oh, well, 473 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: you know, it's just a get right game for it. 474 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: He goes, dude, I don't know. He pretty much was like, 475 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: I don't know what we have going on right now. 476 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: We can't do anything right. He goes one day, one week, 477 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 1: our defensive lights out, our offense stick the next week, 478 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 1: offense stinks, defense stinks. Everybody stinks, right, and so they're 479 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: in the same they're in the same boat as they're 480 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: trying to find their way and jab, you're exactly right. 481 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: This is a situation where you're zero and zero, you're 482 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,479 Speaker 1: three and three. You can find a way to just 483 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 1: go ahead, put them down, then be done with them, 484 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:20,719 Speaker 1: be done with them because they have to. They have 485 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 1: some other things they have to do with. Seattle's playing 486 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 1: really well, Arizona always plays them tough. They got some 487 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: tough other situations they have to deal with. If you 488 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: can handle your business and this only thing in the 489 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: National Football League that's always tough because you don't want 490 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: to put all your coins or all your eggs into 491 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 1: one game, right, saying like, we have to win this one, 492 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 1: right because then if you do, then it kind of 493 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: you start doing this roller coaster stink. But this game 494 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: is really important for the I guess in the bigger 495 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: scheme of things. If you can go ahead and knock 496 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,479 Speaker 1: this one out, get there was an out of the way, 497 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 1: like you guys said, if you beat the Niners, you 498 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: have a great path to the Super Bowl. And I 499 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,239 Speaker 1: didn't really believe you guys until last year. Yeah, and 500 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: so far, I was like, this is a real thing, 501 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 1: Like if you can't beat the Niners, you will not 502 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: win the snore something or Maurice, did you hear the 503 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: name Sean Manion? I heard something about the forty nine 504 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 1: ers being disrespected when they trotted out when the Rams 505 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: trotted out Sean Manyon and they sat Jared Goff. What 506 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 1: year was that, Yeah, resting starters in Week seventeen. Yeah, 507 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: something about feeling disrespected and the butt kickens began there 508 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 1: or something like that. Yeah. I'm like, that's a long 509 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: time to hold the grudge. Man. You know understand, I've 510 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: interviewed those dudes in the off season and they disliked 511 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: the Rams the same way the Rams for whatever reason, 512 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 1: whatever it is, if it's from back in the day, 513 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: But I love that. And these rivalry games are important 514 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: because when you do beat your rival, just like in college, 515 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 1: high school or the other part, it gives you that 516 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 1: extra confidence. And so for the Rams, this is it's 517 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: an important game. For not only just physically in the record, 518 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 1: wise for mentally hitting back right, mentally being able to 519 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: get that monkey off and back. And I'll give you 520 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: a quick story. I remember playing my second year in 521 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: the league. I went seven games without scoring a touchdown. Okay, 522 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: I was disgusted. I was like, who is this guy 523 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: that I'm betraying? And we played the Kansas City Chiefs 524 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 1: and I scored my first one. And after that, the pressure, 525 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: all the stuff that was going through my mind, all 526 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 1: those things went out the window. And when I could 527 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: just play football and we all started to play better 528 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 1: as a team because other guys had other things going on. 529 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: This is a monkey that you can get off your 530 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: back right now, that can actually pull ball too, or 531 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: they take you to another level. And who cares what 532 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: you got after this? Right? I know it's the Bucks 533 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: and this and that. Who cares? You will be mentally 534 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,479 Speaker 1: prepared to take on anyone else if you can win 535 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: this game. To your point about the forty nine or 536 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: sometimes feeling rudderless but looking forward to getting right against 537 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: the Rams, I screenshotted a couple of things from from 538 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: their beat ridder from the people that cover this team, 539 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: which I'm not saying is a direct reflection of the 540 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: sentiment in the locker room. But after they lost to 541 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Here here's word for word what I read. 542 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 1: The good news for the forty nine ers is dot 543 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: dot dot that they play the Rams next week. Wow. 544 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:02,479 Speaker 1: See here's another one, another bright side. Forty nine Ers 545 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 1: get the Rams next Sunday at Sofi Stadium, an opponent 546 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: that they are seven and one against in their last 547 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: eight games. Like that game was not thirty seconds stale before. 548 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 1: Those who follow the forty nine Ers closely are saying, man, 549 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 1: back to back losses, this one was ugly? Goodness? Is 550 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: Rams next the Rosterwise, they're not better. It's all psychological. 551 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: I've been there, and Maurice, you're dead on. Have you 552 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: guys ever played Miss pac Man. Yes, it's the same 553 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,360 Speaker 1: as when you get that power pellet when you beat 554 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: San Francisco you start chasing the ghosts. Same thing here. 555 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: So but you've got to get through this, this mental edge, 556 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: this thing they had, this grip they have over you. 557 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 1: To me, what changed in the NFC NFC Championship game 558 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: versus Week seventeen was Nick Scott blown up debot? Yes 559 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: you finally knocked the bully out right, then everything changed. 560 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: It's no different here. You're gonna have to beat them 561 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: physically period. If not, that psychological edge will take over. 562 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 1: I have to say this too. It's so funny because 563 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 1: when you when you really look at the whole, the 564 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: big picture. You said it best to Marco. It's not 565 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 1: as if they're more talented than you. It's not as 566 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 1: if their coach is better than yours. It has zero 567 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: to do with that. It's strictly physicality. They're just a 568 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: more physical football team. They want to run the ball. 569 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: They have guys that finish their blocks. Kittle last year 570 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 1: in November dump remember he dumped von Miller and the replay, 571 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,919 Speaker 1: all those they were just more physical. In the one 572 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: time the Rams showed physicality, they cowered down. What does 573 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: that remind you of a bully? Right? A bully it 574 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 1: will bully you until you say enough enough and eventually 575 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: becomes your best friend, and he becomes your best friend, 576 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 1: and so eventually the Rams have to stand up to 577 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,479 Speaker 1: the bully that they I told them on this last year, 578 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:56,439 Speaker 1: and I still believe the Rams came together and then 579 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: we became best friends exactly. The Rams can be in 580 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 1: anyone in the National Football League, anyone, But for some reason, 581 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: the Niners is just that one bully that you have, 582 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: Like the girl that I told you, I don't know 583 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: if I ever told you a story. I was bullied 584 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: one time in my life and her name was Carmel Smalls. 585 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 1: She bullied me all the time until one day I 586 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: looked in the mirror and I was like, enough's enough, Maurice. 587 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: Carmel will never touch you and push you down like 588 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: that ever again. Oh yeah, And I stood up to her. 589 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,479 Speaker 1: I didn't touch her anything. I understand. Stop and she stopped. 590 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 1: There can be borrowed for left guard. But again, you 591 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: have it's a mental thing. You have to look yourself 592 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,679 Speaker 1: in the mirror. You have to practice a certain way, 593 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: you have to go to meetings a certain way in 594 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: order to get over this. And one win. I'll never 595 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: get you over a bully, right, because that bully knows 596 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 1: that they've won multiple times against you, they feel a 597 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: certain way towards you. You have to continue to play 598 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: and even this thing out. And once you even and out, 599 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 1: then everything goes back the way it needs to go. 600 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: M J Versus Smalls Rams vers San Francisco. The theme 601 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 1: of the week. I can tell, just like getting back 602 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 1: together with you guys, that we could carry this conversation 603 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: all the way through to Sunday at one twenty five, 604 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: but we'll leave it there on this edition between the 605 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: Horns and look forward to being with you from so 606 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 1: far stadium friend JD for DeMarco far on JB one. 607 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 1: This has been BT eight, presented by your Southern California 608 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: Toyota Dealings