WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Decisions, Decisions

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<v Speaker 1>call me a professional football animal. I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I like that. Like that. I don't know, I hate that.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go into my head. I'm gonna I've got to

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<v Speaker 1>resident Super Bowl Champion Isaiah stand Back. Cowboys insider Rob

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<v Speaker 1>Phillips is currently busy being a Cowboys insider. He is

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<v Speaker 1>writing a story at this very moment that'll be up

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<v Speaker 1>on Dallas Cowboys dot Com later. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>the story is. We'll have to ask him whenever he

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<v Speaker 1>comes in, but We've got plenty to react to. Jerry

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<v Speaker 1>Jones just hanging up with the fan a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>moments ago, and he did drop some nuggets. Yeah he did,

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<v Speaker 1>And he dropped a couple of nuggets for Cowboys fans

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<v Speaker 1>out there, including one that we sort of tossed around

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday was what is the option to replace Lyle Collins

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<v Speaker 1>at right tackle? And we now know the current option now.

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<v Speaker 1>Lyle Collins, according to Jerry Jones, is now in the

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<v Speaker 1>appeal process of his five game suspension that was handed

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<v Speaker 1>down by the NFL. He is still not able to

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<v Speaker 1>play this Sunday against the Los Angeles Chargers, so still

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<v Speaker 1>no hope for him this week. However, the appeal process

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<v Speaker 1>is underway and maybe that five games gets trimmed down

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, or even better than that, it's erased completely.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's things here to think about, including who is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be the backup well starting at right tackle

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<v Speaker 1>on Sunday. It'll be second year undrafted free agent out

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<v Speaker 1>of Texas Tech Terrence Steele. He will be your right

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<v Speaker 1>tackle on Sunday. Reaction reaction, Okay, well, I mean you

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<v Speaker 1>know there's a reaction, and I think this team desperately

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<v Speaker 1>needed to find a swing tackle solution during training camp.

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<v Speaker 1>That came away with saying that Niseki and Steele were

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<v Speaker 1>your answer, and that's what we have to go to

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<v Speaker 1>war with, guys. I mean, look rarely the freaking troops. Huh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just what you gotta do. If you have to

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<v Speaker 1>learn the serenity prayers, God given serenities, something things I

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<v Speaker 1>cannot change, courage to change the things I can incourage

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<v Speaker 1>to know the difference. How this is the courage to

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<v Speaker 1>know the difference? Well, hey, whatever, it is what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, and you have to accept the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we're in a situation with Leo Collins where

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<v Speaker 1>he's not going to be in the game. He can't

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<v Speaker 1>play through an appeal. They're going to make it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>uncomfortable for I mean, we're not gonna get much information

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<v Speaker 1>on this whole thing. It's a five game suspension. We

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<v Speaker 1>have to go forward. There's nothing else to it. That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Got roll with what you have, right, That's where we

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<v Speaker 1>got Terrence still coming in here, still got to find

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<v Speaker 1>a way to stop that bossa boy and the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of his crew. And this is what we got. They'll

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<v Speaker 1>put up together a game plan. Now, again, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to remind everybody that even if we had Lyole Collins,

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<v Speaker 1>they we were going to have our hands full with

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<v Speaker 1>this guy on the defensive end, so um well, that

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<v Speaker 1>we were going to give help regardless. He was going

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<v Speaker 1>to have assistance, whether it's Collins, whether it's Still, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's n Sag. Oh my goodness, everybody, Oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>we Rob Phillips, Rob, Hello, continue with your point though,

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<v Speaker 1>before we get to Yeah, I mean, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>was just I was just amazed by how swollen he is.

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<v Speaker 1>He has a zip down because pretty impressive Jesus medium.

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<v Speaker 1>Um no, But regardless of who was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>playing our right tackle position, we were going to have

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<v Speaker 1>to assist them. Right now. You might have to assist

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<v Speaker 1>them more now because he's not a pro bowler out there. However,

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<v Speaker 1>they were going to need some help. It's not just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna sit that person on an island out there and

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<v Speaker 1>just say hey, block bosall game. No, that's not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>help you sleep at all at night when you say

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<v Speaker 1>island and Bosa and tackle. So we are Yeah, what

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<v Speaker 1>are you guys talking about talking about? Oh okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's why I'm late. Actually is yeah, update us, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys know what I know. I was a little surprised.

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<v Speaker 1>It just came right out there, but he said, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>was it tongue? He said it so quickly that was yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there was no secret. And then most coaches don't play

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<v Speaker 1>their hands. It's on a Tuesday, I think Jerry, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you heard what he said about Terrence Steele. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he wanted to come out and say, we got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of confidence in this young guy. Okay, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's I think that was the message behind it, probably

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and he gave us some insight you probably

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<v Speaker 1>guys just talked about it, but why they're not moving

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<v Speaker 1>Zach out there? So that's that was interesting. Kind of

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<v Speaker 1>reiterate from the people that did well. They don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to say it's kind of what Mike said all last year.

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<v Speaker 1>A car don't want to have to switch two spots

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<v Speaker 1>out of five. So I don't know, I guess the

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<v Speaker 1>best five they like best. I know for a fact,

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<v Speaker 1>best five is something they think holds water. But in

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<v Speaker 1>this particular situation, they're willing to say, hey, we've got

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<v Speaker 1>a young guy who started fourteen games last year. Titus

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<v Speaker 1>Seki was on the injury report last week, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think he was full by the end of the week,

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know if it's that. I think maybe

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<v Speaker 1>they just they liked this young guy, so we'll see

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<v Speaker 1>what happens, you know. And that's that's kind of confusing

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<v Speaker 1>to me because I guess if you're looking forward and

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're saying, after Collins returns, the best five scenario

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<v Speaker 1>of moving one position or two positions out to the

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<v Speaker 1>right side, Sure that makes sense, because then you would

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<v Speaker 1>have Martinet right garden. Then you have Collins at right tackle.

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<v Speaker 1>But going if you look backwards to one week, the

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<v Speaker 1>only thing you're switching is your right tackle because if

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<v Speaker 1>you put Connor McGovern at the right guard spot, he

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<v Speaker 1>played there a ton last year six six starts last year.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course he started their week one. You would only

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<v Speaker 1>switch out the right tackle and you would replace Lyle

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<v Speaker 1>Collins with Zack Martin. So I don't know if the

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<v Speaker 1>shuffling of the cards holds as much weight at this

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<v Speaker 1>very moment as it did a year ago when it

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<v Speaker 1>was a revolving door. Yeah, I don't disagree with you, However,

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<v Speaker 1>you know you want you want your all prole that

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<v Speaker 1>you have there. You know, you want to protect in

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<v Speaker 1>your backside and you want to protect an inside you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I if worst case scenarios say this Bolsa boy goes

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<v Speaker 1>off right, he gets up the field, what can Dak

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<v Speaker 1>always do step up? Right? However, if we're a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit a little bit weaker on the inside than we

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<v Speaker 1>are on the outside, you don't want pressure up up

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<v Speaker 1>the middle, all right, So you prefer to have pressure

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<v Speaker 1>on the outside. So I think that plays a part

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<v Speaker 1>of it as well. If at least at least Dak

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<v Speaker 1>has an escape in terms of stepping up, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think he wants to escape by getting out the pocket

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<v Speaker 1>and running. He's gonna escape by stepping up in the pocket.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna ask you guys that yesterday. What what's worse?

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<v Speaker 1>Middle pressure or edge pressure? All day long, all day long,

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<v Speaker 1>all day long. Because because I can say as a quart,

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<v Speaker 1>as a quote unquote running quarterback, I would have outside

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<v Speaker 1>pressure all the time. Teams would blitz me all the

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<v Speaker 1>time thinking contain, contain, contain, when in reality I can

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<v Speaker 1>make one move, get outside of them and be gone

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<v Speaker 1>right and get to get to whatever kind of space

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<v Speaker 1>I needed internal pressure. Ooh, that's rough because I can't

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<v Speaker 1>step up. Your natural instinct as a quarterback is to

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<v Speaker 1>step up in the pocket, right, So if you can't

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<v Speaker 1>step up, now I'm trying to step away. I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to step sideways and trying to find a gap between

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<v Speaker 1>the de tackle and the defensive end. And a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of times those guys can retract their steps and come

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<v Speaker 1>back and get you right. So they can always go

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<v Speaker 1>upfield and come back inside. Right, But when you when

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<v Speaker 1>you have pressure coming from the inside, there's nowhere to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus on the outside, you can chip, you can do

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<v Speaker 1>all these other exact things and add basically sturrogate lineman

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<v Speaker 1>on the outside to help twelve personnel, just like last week. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I was so surprised by our twelve personnel.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, those guys. I don't know how many players

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<v Speaker 1>we have with those guys, but they showed up a ton, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and Shoultz and Jarwin, those guys are in there a

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<v Speaker 1>lot together. Yeah, I'll try and find that number for

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<v Speaker 1>your chair in a second. But you're right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have to protect steel on the right side.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna see a lot of twelve personnel, which is

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<v Speaker 1>not the most entertaining form of offense whenever you have

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<v Speaker 1>guys like this. But you're also missing Michael Gallop too,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's not like you're taking a big time playmaker

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<v Speaker 1>off the field this week specifically or in the weeks

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<v Speaker 1>moving forward. So you have a little bit to play

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<v Speaker 1>around with, and Callamore is going to have to certainly

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<v Speaker 1>do that. Another thing that was addressed during the Jerry

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<v Speaker 1>Jones interview on one oh five three the Fan was

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<v Speaker 1>Randy Gregory and his status as yesterday, as Zack Martin

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<v Speaker 1>and Brandon Knight came off of the COVID nineteen list,

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<v Speaker 1>Randy Gregory went on to it, and so Jerry, much

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<v Speaker 1>like he was with Zach Martin last week, still very hopeful.

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<v Speaker 1>Luckily they don't play Thursday, they play Sunday, and who knows,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe if that were the case last week, Zack Martin

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<v Speaker 1>might have played. But now he has the confidence that

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<v Speaker 1>Randy Gregory could potentially go through that. What is the

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<v Speaker 1>idea of getting him back like right now, rob and

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<v Speaker 1>what would have to go right? The same thing as

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<v Speaker 1>Zach last week, because he's vaccinated. It's those two negative

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<v Speaker 1>tests twenty four hours apart, and then it depends on

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<v Speaker 1>whether he's got symptoms. The reports yesterday were that he

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<v Speaker 1>was asymptomatic. Jerry said, not severe symptoms or something. So

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<v Speaker 1>it just depends. If he does have some symptoms, then

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<v Speaker 1>he's got to be forty eight hours free of those.

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<v Speaker 1>So this happening on Sunday or Monday, whenever it popped up.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's got a chance to get back. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think Zach, that was a pretty accelerated

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<v Speaker 1>timeline last week. It was pretty quick, and he still

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't able to get back. Unfortunately. However, he's back this week,

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<v Speaker 1>which shows that he really didn't have a whole ton

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<v Speaker 1>of struggle last week either outside of Randy Gregory. How

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<v Speaker 1>do we feel about the edge rusher spot after last week?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Doren's Armstrong made a play, Randy gregor excuse me,

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<v Speaker 1>de Marcus Lawrence of course forced to fumble. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's a couple of things there that were pretty

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<v Speaker 1>good about the edge Rusher spots. How do you feel

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<v Speaker 1>about it last weekend? Well, I mean I think that

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen Doran's Armstrong take those strides through training camp

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<v Speaker 1>in OTAs and he just seems to be a bigger,

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<v Speaker 1>faster version of himself in and twenty one. I feel confident,

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<v Speaker 1>and again back to the serenity prayer, there's nothing we

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<v Speaker 1>can do about this. Everybody in the league is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be dealing with this, and you hate to see

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<v Speaker 1>I won't call it a healthy scratch, but just a

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<v Speaker 1>guy that's due to a test asymptomatic. He could possibly

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<v Speaker 1>play if he passes these two tests twenty four hours apart.

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<v Speaker 1>I think as a franchise, we just have to have

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<v Speaker 1>the mentality that we're just gonna go forward with what

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<v Speaker 1>we have. And I think guys like Armstrong, I think

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<v Speaker 1>Basham have shown you that they can be those rotational

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<v Speaker 1>guys and Bradley and I He's so give these all

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<v Speaker 1>of these guys an opportunity. And it's also Chauncey Gholston

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<v Speaker 1>coming back as well. I think that if he's obviously

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<v Speaker 1>active on game day, I think it gives you a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more confident with replacing the player in Gregory

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<v Speaker 1>Armstrong during twenty seven snaps, which by the way, it

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<v Speaker 1>was only ten snaps less than what Randy Gregory had.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Gregory had thirty seve Armstrong had twenty seven

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<v Speaker 1>and they had the same amount of pressures. They had

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<v Speaker 1>three hurries. Nobody got really close in terms of those

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<v Speaker 1>two guys of a sack or anybody on a good

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<v Speaker 1>Tampa Bay offensive line. But the fact that Armstrong had

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<v Speaker 1>the equal amount of pressure, it's pretty impressive to see

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<v Speaker 1>how he, like you said, has come into himself and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of blossomed as an addresser. Rob Yeah, he has.

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<v Speaker 1>And he was this close to a strip sack on

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Brady, which how he held on to that ball

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<v Speaker 1>is really beyond me. Yeah, I mean you could almost

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<v Speaker 1>hear him hit that arm and the ball not come out.

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<v Speaker 1>That's man, That's yeah, that's something. It was Jeff Heath

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<v Speaker 1>against Aaron Rodgers in twenty six, Like, how in the

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<v Speaker 1>hell did that not happen? But that would have been

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<v Speaker 1>a nice feather in his cap. You're right, he had

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<v Speaker 1>a great training camp dor instead, they just they need

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<v Speaker 1>more pressure. Though, they need more pressure, and Dan Quinn

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<v Speaker 1>talked about it yesterday. Some of that is Tom Brady.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's what he does, Isaiah. He gets the

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<v Speaker 1>ball out quick. But they were around him some, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they had some good rushes and I thought

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<v Speaker 1>they used a lot of use everybody because of the

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<v Speaker 1>humidity and the weather on Thursday night, But there were

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<v Speaker 1>times where they just they didn't they didn't get there,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And then you're right, Kyle, that's a good

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line in Tampa. They gotta they gotta affect Justin

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<v Speaker 1>Herbert more than they did against Tampa. So and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to think of the way that people would line

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<v Speaker 1>up against the Chargers. But guess who you would be

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<v Speaker 1>going against if you're Dorn's Armstrong and later Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I like that matchup like that Later, I

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<v Speaker 1>like that matchup. I definitely like it for Don's Armstrong.

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<v Speaker 1>You did you see Rashawns later? Lest He's getting Ravens,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't he? Dude? He shut down Chase Young, like shut

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<v Speaker 1>him down. It was the first time Chase Young's been

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<v Speaker 1>shut down since he was Okay, oh, guess what in

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<v Speaker 1>college at Ohio State playing Northwestern against I know you,

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<v Speaker 1>I know what you're doing. I'm telling you, I know

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<v Speaker 1>what you're doing. And I don't want to be a part.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be a part of the gotcha question?

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<v Speaker 1>And I told you so, I'm not doing that yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Want to want to do over on the draft. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not see what he's doing, and I'm not I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna let you do that to me. So what do

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<v Speaker 1>you want? What do you want? What you got? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>very impressed with restaurans later and I always have been,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm not going to do that yet. Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll save that for later on if that needs to be. However,

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<v Speaker 1>he looks really good, and whoever's going up against him,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be a tough task. Now. The rest of

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<v Speaker 1>that offensive line, which has been completely redone from the

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<v Speaker 1>charger standpoint, is vulnerable. So I think it allows a

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<v Speaker 1>guy like DeMarcus Lawrence to maybe have a big game

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<v Speaker 1>coming up Sunday. He's gonna need he's gonna need it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we're gonna have to get some pressure. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean the thing is get home. If we're going on

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<v Speaker 1>the blitz, get home, And that's gonna be have to

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<v Speaker 1>be the going thing for this defense because of our

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<v Speaker 1>weaknesses on the back and as we strengthen it. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>just say that as we strengthen the back end of

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<v Speaker 1>our defense, getting home is gonna have to be the

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<v Speaker 1>idea this week because we can't just allow a quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>like Justin Herbert to sit back and pick his spots.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, you know, Brady had time in that game.

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<v Speaker 1>But I thought DeMarcus played really well. Yeah he was.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's a tough matchup against worse and he was.

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<v Speaker 1>He was around the ball. Um it obviously had the

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<v Speaker 1>ad the forced fumble, was in the backfield some. So

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<v Speaker 1>that was a good start for him, considering all the

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<v Speaker 1>time he missed. Um. But do you want to stand

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<v Speaker 1>on the table for Michael Parsons after an April full

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<v Speaker 1>of saying we need to draft this guy, you want

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<v Speaker 1>to tell Kyle that, uh what we're like? I said,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not doing that yet. We're not doing that yet,

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<v Speaker 1>not yet yet. I'm gonna let it play out a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. My man over here was very quiet. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we're talking about backup players, right, or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the guys that have come in and fill in for

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<v Speaker 1>our starters, right, So we're talking about um. You know obviously, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Terrence Steele coming in fitting in that change is drastically

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<v Speaker 1>different than what we have on the defense side of

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<v Speaker 1>the ball. Gregory to Armstrong is not as far of

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<v Speaker 1>a fall off as it is from from Collins to

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<v Speaker 1>freaking Steel. So as we look at those comparisons, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not worried in that regard. Uh. I think we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to get pressure somewhere else. Anyways, it's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be an old man. This is our this is

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<v Speaker 1>It's like they're getting shut down. So I'm not concerned

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<v Speaker 1>about um Gregor. Obviously, we wish we had and we

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<v Speaker 1>hope that we have him in it's not out picture yet,

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<v Speaker 1>so we hope that we have him, obviously, But it's

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<v Speaker 1>not as dire a situation as it is on the

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<v Speaker 1>offensive side of the ball, no doubt about it. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think if you're a Cowboys fan, you're looking at

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<v Speaker 1>the defensive side and thinking, we're still gonna have a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty decent day at least hopefully we'll have a decent

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<v Speaker 1>day up against Tom Brady. But you are right. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that that Washington football team defense they had their

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<v Speaker 1>hands full with the Chargers offense, and you would think

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<v Speaker 1>that they would have been able to generate a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more pressure and they didn't. I mean, the charges went

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<v Speaker 1>max protect. They knew what they were up against and

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<v Speaker 1>the things that happened within the game where you know, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy is gonna be under fired. Get the ball

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<v Speaker 1>did that as well on Thursday. I'm Max protect, get

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<v Speaker 1>see find out guys. Yeah, so you know, here's an idea,

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<v Speaker 1>uh one thing that came out of the coordinators yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>But all three coordinators talked with the media and Kelly

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<v Speaker 1>Moore got a chance to go up there and kind

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<v Speaker 1>of talk about the imbalance of pass and run and

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<v Speaker 1>it was also a topic of conversation that we had yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>And he said, he said, we called twenty eight run

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<v Speaker 1>plays right, twenty eight, which is kind of decent. Whenever

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<v Speaker 1>you still look at for what would that be for

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<v Speaker 1>even numbers. I'm terrible at mass, so that would be

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eight thirty. So yeah, it'd be twenty eight and thirty,

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<v Speaker 1>so pretty even in terms of calling. Twelve plays, however,

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<v Speaker 1>were checked at the line of scrimmage from Dak Prescott.

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<v Speaker 1>So I want to ask, from a former quarterback standpoint,

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<v Speaker 1>how easy is it to check out and how much

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<v Speaker 1>do coaches hate it when you check out that often?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you check out based upon your look. So

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<v Speaker 1>typically you come up to the line of scrimmage with

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<v Speaker 1>two plays. Now, that's pretty much how this league is going.

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<v Speaker 1>So if they call it, if Keller Moore called a

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<v Speaker 1>run play, dat comes up to the line of scrimmage.

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<v Speaker 1>If the leverage isn't to your advantage if your office,

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<v Speaker 1>a lineman don't have the advantage in terms of leverage,

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<v Speaker 1>if the numbers don't add up. If you have, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>six blockers and they have seven or eight guys in

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<v Speaker 1>a box, you're checking out. So Dak Prescott always has

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<v Speaker 1>the power to get the team in a better play call.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's not going to run the run play just

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<v Speaker 1>be coach. Coach called the run play is his job

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure that it's a good look rather it's

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<v Speaker 1>run or pass. So regardless of what Keller Moore calls,

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<v Speaker 1>if it doesn't look good, once once Dad gets up

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<v Speaker 1>to the line of scrimmage, he's gonna check out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>So that sounds like that's exactly what he did. My

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<v Speaker 1>question is what percentage of NFL quarterbacks have the authority

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<v Speaker 1>to check out a place of them? All of them,

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<v Speaker 1>So we're not talking about something and that's four and

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<v Speaker 1>guys have they I mean basically they called to plays

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<v Speaker 1>in the huddle anyway, and so it's your job to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure that we run a good place. So and

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<v Speaker 1>going in watching the game, obviously Tampa was showing a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of seven in the box looks and then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>checking out of them at the line of scrimmage as well,

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<v Speaker 1>but they were bringing the pressure. You know. I love

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<v Speaker 1>it and I hate it. I love it because you

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<v Speaker 1>pay your quarterback what you're given, what you're given, and

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<v Speaker 1>you want him to have that control. Again, all quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 1>in the league have it. I also think that for

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<v Speaker 1>a for defense that needs as much help as they

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<v Speaker 1>can get, I think that part of it the rhythm

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<v Speaker 1>of football. I think that throws your game plan off

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<v Speaker 1>because you're putting your defense out there a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>than you want to with three announced and what it

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<v Speaker 1>takes when you just throw the ball three times or

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<v Speaker 1>what have you. So look, all of this works handing glove,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know throughout the course of a football season.

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<v Speaker 1>Will this come back to bite us if we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do this, if this is who we are, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>or if we're just gonna say, look, Tampa was Tampa

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<v Speaker 1>and we won't have to go up against those type

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<v Speaker 1>of three or four looks because look, the charges are

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<v Speaker 1>the same way as far as their look and they

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of dogs in their secondary and obviously Bosa,

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<v Speaker 1>so they will show those same kinds of looks. Will

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<v Speaker 1>Dad do the same thing in the game versus charges.

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<v Speaker 1>People need to also understand that as a defensive coordinator,

0:22:32.280 --> 0:22:35.680
<v Speaker 1>you can declare what the offense is allowed to do.

0:22:36.080 --> 0:22:37.639
<v Speaker 1>If you come up and you put seven or eight

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<v Speaker 1>guys in a box and you kind of have an

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<v Speaker 1>idea of where they're where they typically do out of

0:22:41.600 --> 0:22:45.520
<v Speaker 1>certain formations and different personnail groups. Maybe they wanted to

0:22:45.640 --> 0:22:48.760
<v Speaker 1>take Zeke out the game. Maybe that was Tampa's approach.

0:22:48.800 --> 0:22:50.280
<v Speaker 1>Maybe Tampa was like, yeah, you guys just aren't going

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<v Speaker 1>to run a ball against us, and we've seen that

0:22:52.080 --> 0:22:55.760
<v Speaker 1>over the years against Zeek. Yeah, so yes, So maybe

0:22:55.800 --> 0:22:58.520
<v Speaker 1>they felt better about their chances in the board with

0:22:58.640 --> 0:23:01.480
<v Speaker 1>the ball would dame off ankle with Dak you know,

0:23:01.520 --> 0:23:03.360
<v Speaker 1>all the shoulder issues through camp. They were like, we'll

0:23:03.400 --> 0:23:04.760
<v Speaker 1>roll the dice, and what does make Dack throw the

0:23:04.800 --> 0:23:07.480
<v Speaker 1>ball because there's a greater percentage there's a greater chance

0:23:07.520 --> 0:23:10.000
<v Speaker 1>that we'll get an interception through the air than we

0:23:10.040 --> 0:23:12.520
<v Speaker 1>would get a fumble with Zeke running the ball. Maybe

0:23:12.600 --> 0:23:14.400
<v Speaker 1>that's what their approach was and they took it away

0:23:14.400 --> 0:23:17.200
<v Speaker 1>from us. You know, I go back to what I

0:23:17.240 --> 0:23:21.080
<v Speaker 1>said Monday, like those loaded boxes, Like like you said,

0:23:21.440 --> 0:23:24.320
<v Speaker 1>we've seen those over the years, and they had a

0:23:24.400 --> 0:23:27.639
<v Speaker 1>different guys up front blocking for Zeke in the middle.

0:23:27.800 --> 0:23:30.440
<v Speaker 1>You know, they had Travis Frederick, Zach Martin usually is

0:23:30.480 --> 0:23:33.240
<v Speaker 1>in there and they don't care. They'd run it anyway,

0:23:33.400 --> 0:23:35.119
<v Speaker 1>and they didn't do that in this game. And I

0:23:35.160 --> 0:23:36.919
<v Speaker 1>think they I think they saw the matchups. I mean,

0:23:36.960 --> 0:23:38.760
<v Speaker 1>that's as good a Rundy, that's the best run defense

0:23:38.800 --> 0:23:40.720
<v Speaker 1>in the league. Yeah, and when there's eight in the

0:23:40.800 --> 0:23:43.479
<v Speaker 1>box and you like your chances on the outside, especially

0:23:43.520 --> 0:23:46.960
<v Speaker 1>when Murphy Bunting goes out on the outside for them

0:23:47.000 --> 0:23:50.040
<v Speaker 1>at corner and you have the receivers you have, I mean,

0:23:50.240 --> 0:23:52.320
<v Speaker 1>I understand why they did what they did. What I

0:23:52.400 --> 0:23:55.880
<v Speaker 1>was a little surprised was we heard all offseason how

0:23:56.080 --> 0:23:58.680
<v Speaker 1>great Zeke looked, and we and he did look good.

0:23:58.920 --> 0:24:03.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, he didn't get that touchdown where Jarwin misses

0:24:03.640 --> 0:24:05.359
<v Speaker 1>the block and maybe he could have shook him, but

0:24:05.400 --> 0:24:07.400
<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, it was mainly the block there.

0:24:08.200 --> 0:24:10.800
<v Speaker 1>He looked really good. Could you got him involved some

0:24:10.920 --> 0:24:12.840
<v Speaker 1>other way? Could? I mean we talked about how some

0:24:12.920 --> 0:24:15.480
<v Speaker 1>of the short passing game functioned as a sort of

0:24:15.520 --> 0:24:18.199
<v Speaker 1>the running game. Could you know this. Zeke's had seventy

0:24:18.240 --> 0:24:20.040
<v Speaker 1>seven catches in a season in his career. Could you

0:24:20.160 --> 0:24:21.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of get him going a little bit that way?

0:24:21.680 --> 0:24:23.920
<v Speaker 1>That was my only thing, and that's that's my tiff

0:24:23.960 --> 0:24:25.960
<v Speaker 1>with it as well, because the reason, let's be real,

0:24:26.160 --> 0:24:29.000
<v Speaker 1>let's be real. I hope, I hope people don't really

0:24:29.080 --> 0:24:32.480
<v Speaker 1>have an expectation that Tyler Biads and that freaking Connor

0:24:32.520 --> 0:24:34.880
<v Speaker 1>Williams we're gonna move Vita Vea and a Dominican sue

0:24:34.920 --> 0:24:36.359
<v Speaker 1>off the ball. It's not gonna happen. If that's what

0:24:36.440 --> 0:24:39.200
<v Speaker 1>you guys were expecting, then then you have false hope

0:24:39.400 --> 0:24:42.439
<v Speaker 1>because that's not that's not reality. You're living in rainbow

0:24:42.520 --> 0:24:45.480
<v Speaker 1>land right now. Okay, that's fiction land. So let's not

0:24:45.640 --> 0:24:47.040
<v Speaker 1>think that that was gonna be the case. So the

0:24:47.119 --> 0:24:50.760
<v Speaker 1>reality is anything that happens behind those guys easily takes

0:24:50.800 --> 0:24:53.040
<v Speaker 1>us out of a run play. Right. If those guys

0:24:53.080 --> 0:24:55.719
<v Speaker 1>shift the linebackers over one direction, we gotta check out

0:24:55.720 --> 0:24:57.679
<v Speaker 1>of this running because we don't have the leverage. Right,

0:24:57.720 --> 0:24:59.560
<v Speaker 1>we know we can't move those two jokers off the ball,

0:24:59.800 --> 0:25:01.760
<v Speaker 1>so we can't get up to the second level. If

0:25:01.800 --> 0:25:03.560
<v Speaker 1>we can't get up to the second level, then these

0:25:03.600 --> 0:25:06.040
<v Speaker 1>linebackers that they had in Tampaka roam free, and we

0:25:06.080 --> 0:25:08.560
<v Speaker 1>know them boys could run and hit two. So that's

0:25:08.560 --> 0:25:10.480
<v Speaker 1>the reality. It sounds like starting to really look like

0:25:10.560 --> 0:25:12.360
<v Speaker 1>they didn't they wanted to take Zeke out the game.

0:25:12.400 --> 0:25:15.320
<v Speaker 1>But now that falls on whose shoulders Kellen Moore. We

0:25:15.400 --> 0:25:17.240
<v Speaker 1>can't run the ball kill The more you knew that

0:25:17.280 --> 0:25:18.760
<v Speaker 1>coming into the game. It's not like you just found

0:25:18.800 --> 0:25:20.560
<v Speaker 1>that out when you got there. They had them two

0:25:20.600 --> 0:25:22.879
<v Speaker 1>dogs on the roster before you showed up to the field.

0:25:23.160 --> 0:25:25.240
<v Speaker 1>So now how do you get Zeke and ball? That's

0:25:25.280 --> 0:25:27.240
<v Speaker 1>when you started having to say, we paid you a

0:25:27.280 --> 0:25:29.200
<v Speaker 1>lot of money killing more right, we believe in you,

0:25:29.359 --> 0:25:32.080
<v Speaker 1>We re upped you. Be creative and get our one

0:25:32.119 --> 0:25:34.920
<v Speaker 1>of our best playmakers on his team the ball. I

0:25:35.000 --> 0:25:37.879
<v Speaker 1>think that's a great point because if you're one dimensional

0:25:37.960 --> 0:25:40.320
<v Speaker 1>in week one, you can get away with it. You

0:25:40.400 --> 0:25:42.400
<v Speaker 1>can be okay, you can throw at fifty eight times

0:25:42.480 --> 0:25:44.880
<v Speaker 1>and run at fourteen times or whatever the total ended

0:25:44.960 --> 0:25:49.960
<v Speaker 1>up being and be fine. However, going through the rest

0:25:50.000 --> 0:25:52.680
<v Speaker 1>of the sixteen games this year, you can't be one dimensional.

0:25:52.720 --> 0:25:54.800
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna have to figure out how to run the

0:25:54.880 --> 0:25:59.240
<v Speaker 1>football even against stuff competition, much like you saw with

0:25:59.320 --> 0:26:01.200
<v Speaker 1>Tampa Bay. Now, I don't think we're gonna see a

0:26:01.240 --> 0:26:07.359
<v Speaker 1>Tampa Bay talented front the rest of the year. Washington, Okay,

0:26:07.480 --> 0:26:10.600
<v Speaker 1>that's fair, but that's after Thanksgiving. Well, I mean you've

0:26:10.600 --> 0:26:13.520
<v Speaker 1>got a little bit of time to look at that once. Yeah,

0:26:15.800 --> 0:26:18.880
<v Speaker 1>four weeks, so, yeah, you're right, we will see that front.

0:26:18.920 --> 0:26:21.879
<v Speaker 1>But outside of them, it's probably nowhere close to what

0:26:21.960 --> 0:26:24.000
<v Speaker 1>Tampa Bay brought to the table. You got to find

0:26:24.080 --> 0:26:28.120
<v Speaker 1>a way to run the football. As we continue this conversation, though,

0:26:28.160 --> 0:26:30.119
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to open up the phone lines. Let's get

0:26:30.160 --> 0:26:33.440
<v Speaker 1>some fan calls in here. Eight eight eight eight five

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<v Speaker 1>five two to nine seven. Once again, it's eight eight

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<v Speaker 1>call and we'll answer some of your questions live here

0:26:43.280 --> 0:26:46.720
<v Speaker 1>on Talking Cowboys. And as we continue this going up

0:26:46.760 --> 0:26:50.720
<v Speaker 1>against the Chargers, we're gonna preview the Chargers defense on Thursday.

0:26:50.760 --> 0:26:52.840
<v Speaker 1>We've got some time to kind of dive in on

0:26:52.920 --> 0:26:55.720
<v Speaker 1>them a little bit later on. But in your early studies,

0:26:56.160 --> 0:26:58.640
<v Speaker 1>what are you looking at to take advantage of this week?

0:26:58.760 --> 0:27:02.800
<v Speaker 1>What are you looking Is it their secondary that's susceptible,

0:27:02.920 --> 0:27:04.560
<v Speaker 1>is it their front seven? What are we looking at

0:27:04.640 --> 0:27:07.240
<v Speaker 1>from an offensive standpoint to take advantage of? I mean,

0:27:07.320 --> 0:27:10.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm gonna sound old school after we just talked

0:27:10.440 --> 0:27:13.119
<v Speaker 1>about how Kelly Moore is not, you know, wants to

0:27:13.680 --> 0:27:16.320
<v Speaker 1>throw the ball and not run his you know, Zeke's

0:27:16.320 --> 0:27:18.399
<v Speaker 1>head up against the wall, trying to get the running

0:27:18.440 --> 0:27:20.440
<v Speaker 1>game established. I just feel as though you have to

0:27:20.880 --> 0:27:23.440
<v Speaker 1>at a certain point. I think it helps your young defense,

0:27:24.000 --> 0:27:28.200
<v Speaker 1>uh to get in rhythm when you have a running

0:27:28.280 --> 0:27:31.879
<v Speaker 1>game that can continuously take that take time off of

0:27:31.960 --> 0:27:34.240
<v Speaker 1>the clock. It's field position and ball control. Those are

0:27:34.280 --> 0:27:37.719
<v Speaker 1>the certain things that win you games, uh in the NFL.

0:27:37.840 --> 0:27:41.200
<v Speaker 1>And obviously, if we're going to be committed to throwing

0:27:41.240 --> 0:27:44.280
<v Speaker 1>the ball that we we are or are shown in

0:27:44.359 --> 0:27:46.840
<v Speaker 1>the first game, then we're gonna have some lopsided games

0:27:46.880 --> 0:27:49.520
<v Speaker 1>like this like we saw last year, where you're you're

0:27:49.560 --> 0:27:51.560
<v Speaker 1>throwing for a lot of yards, but you're still losing

0:27:52.160 --> 0:27:54.320
<v Speaker 1>the game. And that's just because you're not even with

0:27:54.520 --> 0:27:57.920
<v Speaker 1>time of possession, it's just not allowing you. It's just

0:27:58.040 --> 0:28:00.639
<v Speaker 1>not going to allow you the room for error that

0:28:00.760 --> 0:28:02.679
<v Speaker 1>you would have if you still ran the ball. I mean,

0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:05.080
<v Speaker 1>it's just that's just football, one on one. Yeah, I

0:28:05.160 --> 0:28:07.520
<v Speaker 1>think we need to approach this game with that mentality.

0:28:07.560 --> 0:28:09.160
<v Speaker 1>We need to get this thing going on the ground,

0:28:09.320 --> 0:28:11.680
<v Speaker 1>and I think that we can. I think Washington average

0:28:11.800 --> 0:28:14.840
<v Speaker 1>about five yards per carry against those guys, so obviously

0:28:14.920 --> 0:28:16.880
<v Speaker 1>they have they have a dog running back. But guess

0:28:16.920 --> 0:28:20.120
<v Speaker 1>what we do too, So we need to get him going.

0:28:20.200 --> 0:28:23.639
<v Speaker 1>I think I think it's very important to get Zeke's

0:28:23.680 --> 0:28:26.800
<v Speaker 1>confidence back coming off of last year. Not to say

0:28:26.840 --> 0:28:28.760
<v Speaker 1>that he lost a lot of it, right, but when

0:28:28.840 --> 0:28:31.239
<v Speaker 1>you have a guy of that caliber, you need him

0:28:31.280 --> 0:28:34.040
<v Speaker 1>to know that I'm supported. You need him to know that, Hey,

0:28:34.920 --> 0:28:36.840
<v Speaker 1>coming off of a year that's not up to my standards,

0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:38.360
<v Speaker 1>I need to know that you guys still are riding

0:28:38.440 --> 0:28:40.440
<v Speaker 1>with me, right, And I did my part last week

0:28:40.480 --> 0:28:42.880
<v Speaker 1>and blocking, and you know, and when I had opportunity

0:28:42.880 --> 0:28:44.440
<v Speaker 1>to run, I did what I could with what I had.

0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:46.920
<v Speaker 1>I need y'all to feed me this week because I

0:28:47.000 --> 0:28:49.160
<v Speaker 1>need I need that confidence going into this season. And

0:28:49.280 --> 0:28:51.280
<v Speaker 1>you guys, the rest of my teammates need that confidence

0:28:51.320 --> 0:28:53.560
<v Speaker 1>so that my office a line blocks a little bit harder,

0:28:53.960 --> 0:28:56.160
<v Speaker 1>so that my receivers put their head in there and

0:28:56.200 --> 0:28:59.440
<v Speaker 1>go finish blocks a jar win. Right. Guys like that

0:28:59.680 --> 0:29:02.320
<v Speaker 1>plays like that, they need to know that this guy's

0:29:02.360 --> 0:29:03.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna bust his butt they need to know that he's

0:29:03.960 --> 0:29:06.720
<v Speaker 1>capable of breaking loose again. They need to be reminded

0:29:06.760 --> 0:29:09.000
<v Speaker 1>of the o Zeke. He needs to be reminded of

0:29:09.080 --> 0:29:11.200
<v Speaker 1>o Zeke. And if they do that, then I think

0:29:11.200 --> 0:29:13.000
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna have a heck of a year on the ground.

0:29:13.120 --> 0:29:15.280
<v Speaker 1>I agree. That was my only thing going back to

0:29:15.320 --> 0:29:17.520
<v Speaker 1>this game, because Kellen More could argue like we were

0:29:17.600 --> 0:29:19.520
<v Speaker 1>one dimensional and we had to lead with a minute

0:29:19.520 --> 0:29:21.680
<v Speaker 1>and a half the great point, you know, So that's

0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:23.800
<v Speaker 1>that's the argument. Even though he did say I mean

0:29:23.840 --> 0:29:26.120
<v Speaker 1>he was ready for that question. I mean he called

0:29:26.200 --> 0:29:28.800
<v Speaker 1>more runs than we thought he did, you know. But

0:29:29.120 --> 0:29:31.600
<v Speaker 1>that being said, I agree. I think you've got to

0:29:31.680 --> 0:29:34.200
<v Speaker 1>give get Zeke going a little bit and he'll do

0:29:34.280 --> 0:29:36.840
<v Speaker 1>whatever the team needs him to do. That's proven over

0:29:36.880 --> 0:29:38.520
<v Speaker 1>the last few years. But I think coming off of

0:29:38.600 --> 0:29:42.840
<v Speaker 1>last year, how he's looked in preseason, give him some opportunities.

0:29:43.080 --> 0:29:45.240
<v Speaker 1>But I do wonder and with Zack Martin being back

0:29:45.360 --> 0:29:47.480
<v Speaker 1>over I think there was an ESPN stat over the

0:29:47.560 --> 0:29:50.800
<v Speaker 1>course of Zach's career they're average in like five yards

0:29:50.840 --> 0:29:52.440
<v Speaker 1>to carry with him in the lineup, So having him

0:29:52.440 --> 0:29:55.240
<v Speaker 1>back at right guard will certainly help. But you know,

0:29:55.360 --> 0:29:58.640
<v Speaker 1>We'll see what happens, but I think they they need

0:29:58.720 --> 0:30:00.880
<v Speaker 1>to get a little bit more balance going over the

0:30:00.960 --> 0:30:03.160
<v Speaker 1>course of the Yeah, but I wonder Tony Pollard. They

0:30:03.200 --> 0:30:05.360
<v Speaker 1>want to use Tony Pollard this season. You know, they've

0:30:05.600 --> 0:30:09.000
<v Speaker 1>talked about how zeke you want him fresh for December

0:30:09.280 --> 0:30:12.560
<v Speaker 1>and hopefully January. Mike said that during training camp, So

0:30:12.680 --> 0:30:16.239
<v Speaker 1>we're going to see more Tony too. No. I love

0:30:16.320 --> 0:30:18.600
<v Speaker 1>what you said. And we talked about Tony Pollard at

0:30:18.680 --> 0:30:22.040
<v Speaker 1>LINT about what his impact can be for the Cowboys,

0:30:22.080 --> 0:30:24.280
<v Speaker 1>and I think with Michael Gallup being out, I think

0:30:24.320 --> 0:30:27.200
<v Speaker 1>that also gives you an opportunity to see Tony Pollard

0:30:27.240 --> 0:30:29.480
<v Speaker 1>in that position because we saw it all throughout Old

0:30:29.480 --> 0:30:31.800
<v Speaker 1>Ta's We saw it through training camp, and so he's

0:30:32.080 --> 0:30:35.080
<v Speaker 1>he you know, look man, he moonlights at receiver as well.

0:30:35.160 --> 0:30:37.240
<v Speaker 1>So I'm really excited to see what the game plan

0:30:37.360 --> 0:30:39.760
<v Speaker 1>is gonna be for twenty. I like that because if

0:30:39.840 --> 0:30:41.640
<v Speaker 1>you can throw him out wide and then have that

0:30:41.760 --> 0:30:44.360
<v Speaker 1>extra element of maybe having him in motion and doing

0:30:44.400 --> 0:30:46.160
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of different things, it really opens up your

0:30:46.200 --> 0:30:48.400
<v Speaker 1>offense and the Cowboys could take advantage. Let me say

0:30:48.400 --> 0:30:51.400
<v Speaker 1>this also for our offensive line, aven you've seen that

0:30:51.800 --> 0:30:54.880
<v Speaker 1>any offensive line. When your big guys are firing off

0:30:54.960 --> 0:30:57.360
<v Speaker 1>and that running game is going, it just builds that

0:30:57.480 --> 0:31:00.480
<v Speaker 1>confidence for them. And I think our offensive I need

0:31:00.600 --> 0:31:03.080
<v Speaker 1>that because all of the talk and whistmas, well, you

0:31:03.160 --> 0:31:05.640
<v Speaker 1>just can't do that Get versus Tampa. If you want

0:31:05.680 --> 0:31:08.920
<v Speaker 1>to win a championship, you're going to have to be

0:31:09.080 --> 0:31:12.840
<v Speaker 1>able to do it. Seriot, that's fair. I completely agree.

0:31:12.880 --> 0:31:14.840
<v Speaker 1>You gotta have that blocking up front. You gotta have

0:31:14.920 --> 0:31:17.040
<v Speaker 1>some confidence and build it there. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>Johnny on the phone. He's just calling in Johnny because

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<v Speaker 1>I opened up the phone line. Johnny from El Pasos

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<v Speaker 1>on the line. We're gonna get to you next, Johnny.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna take a break first and then we'll come

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<v Speaker 1>we're joined by Johnny in El Paso. Johnny, how's it going?

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<v Speaker 1>Doing good in yourself? Guys? Doing all right? What's going on?

0:34:24.840 --> 0:34:27.040
<v Speaker 1>What's on your mind? One morning? So I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>ask this past game with Anthony Brown being beat by

0:34:31.080 --> 0:34:34.760
<v Speaker 1>by Antonio Brown, this receiving core for the LA Charters

0:34:35.080 --> 0:34:37.879
<v Speaker 1>is another good receiving core. Do we see them throwing

0:34:37.960 --> 0:34:41.200
<v Speaker 1>in Kennedy or is Brown's lease a little shorter? I

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<v Speaker 1>saw Brown, I mean, I saw Quinn's comment about the

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<v Speaker 1>deep ball, how they were supposed to have safety health.

0:34:46.560 --> 0:34:49.640
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, let's be honest. Is his lease gonna

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<v Speaker 1>leash gonna be a little shorter this week? Especially coming

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<v Speaker 1>up against that receiving corps. Fantastic question, Johnny, Heck, I'll

0:34:56.680 --> 0:35:02.080
<v Speaker 1>let you take first crapech Don't don't make no, I'm

0:35:02.120 --> 0:35:04.399
<v Speaker 1>not gonna do it. You know you guys are expecting. Look,

0:35:05.239 --> 0:35:10.000
<v Speaker 1>dan Quinn said yesterday that abe Anthony Brown was supposed

0:35:10.040 --> 0:35:12.840
<v Speaker 1>to have safety help over the top. Yes, yep, and

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<v Speaker 1>that may have mitigated your fifty five yard touchdown. So

0:35:17.880 --> 0:35:22.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's just coverage error. So not on him

0:35:22.680 --> 0:35:26.040
<v Speaker 1>on the safety, but that But what about going into

0:35:26.120 --> 0:35:29.640
<v Speaker 1>this week? Does that change your mind about Anthony Brown? Well,

0:35:29.640 --> 0:35:31.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, what do you do? You go with Trey

0:35:31.080 --> 0:35:35.120
<v Speaker 1>Von Diggs versus Keenan Alan and you leave him Anthony

0:35:35.160 --> 0:35:37.759
<v Speaker 1>Brown with Mike Williams? Is that gonna put you? Are

0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:39.919
<v Speaker 1>you gonna go zone in this situation? Are you gonna

0:35:39.920 --> 0:35:42.200
<v Speaker 1>stay man like you did last week? I mean, these

0:35:42.239 --> 0:35:44.560
<v Speaker 1>are phenomenal things that you have to ask yourself going

0:35:44.600 --> 0:35:47.320
<v Speaker 1>into this game, Kyle. But number thirty is your cornerback,

0:35:47.360 --> 0:35:49.680
<v Speaker 1>so we're gonna go with him, and look, we're gonna

0:35:49.719 --> 0:35:57.520
<v Speaker 1>trust him. And hey, I said, what what? What? What

0:35:57.680 --> 0:36:00.279
<v Speaker 1>else can can I say? If? If? If it is

0:36:00.360 --> 0:36:05.839
<v Speaker 1>absurd to think that Nation Wright could could wouldn't beat

0:36:05.920 --> 0:36:11.640
<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, worser, it's not a word, but you would,

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<v Speaker 1>you would definitely. I mean, look, I'm of the that

0:36:14.920 --> 0:36:17.359
<v Speaker 1>absurd thinking that you know, you put a guy out

0:36:17.400 --> 0:36:20.200
<v Speaker 1>there and let him prove his worth to you. Um,

0:36:20.320 --> 0:36:24.400
<v Speaker 1>I have other proof that rookies can do it. Cameron Danceler,

0:36:24.760 --> 0:36:27.400
<v Speaker 1>third round pick, Mississippi State. But yeah, I mean there

0:36:27.680 --> 0:36:29.799
<v Speaker 1>there are there are things that can prove that if

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<v Speaker 1>you put your rookie out there. Not to say that

0:36:31.760 --> 0:36:35.239
<v Speaker 1>Danceler is a none of that, but at the same time,

0:36:35.400 --> 0:36:37.840
<v Speaker 1>you know where this guy is gonna be. You have

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<v Speaker 1>a future with your cornerback. Two interceptions that would be

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<v Speaker 1>more than what you got right now in your cornerback group.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go, I'm throwing the rickie into the fire. I

0:36:50.120 --> 0:36:54.840
<v Speaker 1>why what Wait a minute? What? Yeah? What you all sweet? No?

0:36:54.960 --> 0:36:57.200
<v Speaker 1>You know no, No, listen, listen to my point. Heck,

0:36:57.360 --> 0:37:00.439
<v Speaker 1>listen to my point. You convinced him. Listen to my point.

0:37:00.719 --> 0:37:04.680
<v Speaker 1>You know why? You know why because I watched the game. Okay,

0:37:04.760 --> 0:37:07.560
<v Speaker 1>I watched the Charges game, and I watched this their

0:37:07.640 --> 0:37:12.400
<v Speaker 1>number two Mike Mike william Mike Williams six four twenty

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<v Speaker 1>two twenty m m what's what's na Sean six four? So?

0:37:17.719 --> 0:37:20.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's big on big, big on, big, big big, Hey,

0:37:20.200 --> 0:37:23.000
<v Speaker 1>So I feel better about big on big right, Nan

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<v Speaker 1>can run right? Nashan got ehanda hands Nahan is the

0:37:26.840 --> 0:37:30.319
<v Speaker 1>same height. Yeah, so put him up there, put them

0:37:30.400 --> 0:37:34.280
<v Speaker 1>up there, and put the safety help over the top. Huhne.

0:37:34.680 --> 0:37:37.120
<v Speaker 1>Let me even if you think about this, because even

0:37:37.160 --> 0:37:39.840
<v Speaker 1>if a Brown stays in his hip pocket, still a

0:37:39.880 --> 0:37:44.320
<v Speaker 1>completion with with with the accuracy of Herbert, still a completion.

0:37:44.360 --> 0:37:46.600
<v Speaker 1>You know why he's throwing it up top. He's throwing

0:37:46.600 --> 0:37:48.480
<v Speaker 1>it up high. Mike William's gonna go up there and

0:37:48.520 --> 0:37:51.399
<v Speaker 1>go go gadget. He's gonna catch that thing. So even

0:37:51.560 --> 0:37:55.080
<v Speaker 1>if a Brown sticks great, defense is still a mismatch,

0:37:55.480 --> 0:37:57.400
<v Speaker 1>just like the back shoulder throw the god Win. You

0:37:57.440 --> 0:37:59.200
<v Speaker 1>can't start, you can't you can't stop that, right we

0:37:59.280 --> 0:38:01.520
<v Speaker 1>talked about talk about that a couple weeks ago. Back shoulders.

0:38:01.600 --> 0:38:03.279
<v Speaker 1>You can't stop that play. Guess what else you can't

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<v Speaker 1>stop If you're the same size as a Brown and

0:38:05.640 --> 0:38:07.239
<v Speaker 1>you got you're gonna get somebody six four it. Even

0:38:07.239 --> 0:38:08.560
<v Speaker 1>if you're in this hit pocket, if he throws it

0:38:08.600 --> 0:38:12.080
<v Speaker 1>up high, I guess what, he's seven feet can't stop it.

0:38:12.320 --> 0:38:13.920
<v Speaker 1>So you have to match big. What we just talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the other day yesterday, he gonna match your personnel right,

0:38:17.800 --> 0:38:20.279
<v Speaker 1>based upon the skill sets of what he's going against. Yeah,

0:38:20.560 --> 0:38:23.239
<v Speaker 1>you have Nash right, who's six four in two or

0:38:23.239 --> 0:38:25.359
<v Speaker 1>two hundred plus pounds. You're going against the six four

0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:28.160
<v Speaker 1>number two. Put him out there. Diggs would handle handle

0:38:28.320 --> 0:38:35.000
<v Speaker 1>uh handle keenan Allen clip, clippit, shake it before your bag,

0:38:36.920 --> 0:38:38.439
<v Speaker 1>shake it before you bake it. But we just talked

0:38:38.440 --> 0:38:41.560
<v Speaker 1>about yesterday putting guys in position to be successful. Putting

0:38:41.640 --> 0:38:43.719
<v Speaker 1>a Brown against Williams is not putting him in a

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<v Speaker 1>position to be successful. I'm sorry now if it happens

0:38:46.560 --> 0:38:48.560
<v Speaker 1>or he's in the game and he goes against something cool,

0:38:48.840 --> 0:38:51.760
<v Speaker 1>but matching him up against him not a good idea

0:38:52.000 --> 0:38:55.120
<v Speaker 1>because even if you play amazing defense, he still has

0:38:55.160 --> 0:38:57.719
<v Speaker 1>an advantage. Just like Calvin Johnson back in the day,

0:38:57.800 --> 0:38:59.960
<v Speaker 1>you guys played really good defense agains Calvin Johnson MC.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what that boy got a gold jacket because I'm

0:39:02.640 --> 0:39:05.279
<v Speaker 1>bigger than you. Right, we don't need that to happen.

0:39:05.480 --> 0:39:07.120
<v Speaker 1>So let's put our dog on Ricky out there, who

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<v Speaker 1>matches up against him attribute wise, and say let's see

0:39:09.680 --> 0:39:14.240
<v Speaker 1>what you got. Only four corners saw snaps against Tampa

0:39:14.320 --> 0:39:18.160
<v Speaker 1>Bay Trayvon Dicks, Jordan Lewis, Murice Kennedy, Anthony Brown, Anthony Brown,

0:39:18.800 --> 0:39:21.839
<v Speaker 1>had sixty five snaps. That was tied with Trayvon Digs,

0:39:21.880 --> 0:39:25.280
<v Speaker 1>which is all sixty five snaps on defense. Maurice Kennedy

0:39:25.320 --> 0:39:29.160
<v Speaker 1>saw two snaps, and Johnny specifically asked about Kennedy, Rob

0:39:29.280 --> 0:39:31.239
<v Speaker 1>do you see him mixing in a little bit more?

0:39:31.600 --> 0:39:35.200
<v Speaker 1>This is a slot wide receiver kind of revolving door

0:39:35.360 --> 0:39:39.480
<v Speaker 1>for the Chargers. They've got Jalen Guyton Allen product linked

0:39:39.520 --> 0:39:42.239
<v Speaker 1>to North Texas, go mean Green Baby, and then you

0:39:42.360 --> 0:39:44.880
<v Speaker 1>have kJ Hill out of Ohio State who was one

0:39:44.920 --> 0:39:47.239
<v Speaker 1>of the one of my favorites later in the draft

0:39:47.360 --> 0:39:50.400
<v Speaker 1>last year, Speedster. So you've got two guys in the

0:39:50.400 --> 0:39:52.960
<v Speaker 1>slot that they'll kind of rotate back and forth. Do

0:39:53.080 --> 0:39:56.000
<v Speaker 1>you see the Cowboys doing the same thing defensively and

0:39:56.120 --> 0:39:58.239
<v Speaker 1>maybe evening out the snap counts a little bit with

0:39:58.640 --> 0:40:02.120
<v Speaker 1>Jordan Lewis and Maurice Kennedy. That's a great question. I

0:40:02.520 --> 0:40:04.719
<v Speaker 1>could see it if things go the way they went

0:40:04.840 --> 0:40:06.839
<v Speaker 1>early in the game week one. I mean, I don't

0:40:06.840 --> 0:40:08.439
<v Speaker 1>think they're just gonna sit there and let the same

0:40:08.920 --> 0:40:12.000
<v Speaker 1>issues happen. I could see the game starting the way

0:40:12.040 --> 0:40:15.000
<v Speaker 1>it did in Week one and then adjust if you

0:40:15.080 --> 0:40:18.239
<v Speaker 1>need to. And I mean I love Isaiah's point on

0:40:18.640 --> 0:40:21.200
<v Speaker 1>size and matching up. I do think if they made

0:40:21.239 --> 0:40:24.200
<v Speaker 1>a change, it would probably be Maurice Kennedy first. But

0:40:24.480 --> 0:40:28.560
<v Speaker 1>I get your point about the size issue. So see

0:40:28.560 --> 0:40:31.320
<v Speaker 1>what they do. They're gonna be tested because Justin Herbert,

0:40:31.360 --> 0:40:33.800
<v Speaker 1>I think he threw twenty seven passes in the first

0:40:33.880 --> 0:40:37.400
<v Speaker 1>half right against Washington. They have a great young quarterback.

0:40:37.520 --> 0:40:40.319
<v Speaker 1>That's their strength. They're gonna go after it. So how

0:40:40.360 --> 0:40:42.480
<v Speaker 1>do the Cowboys respond? And I think it's a great question.

0:40:42.560 --> 0:40:44.000
<v Speaker 1>I think you know, you've got to be prepared to

0:40:44.040 --> 0:40:46.279
<v Speaker 1>adjust if things don't go your way. And you also

0:40:46.360 --> 0:40:49.160
<v Speaker 1>have to have a defensive front that gets pressure on Herbert.

0:40:49.280 --> 0:40:52.440
<v Speaker 1>And that's gonna make guys like Anthony Brown look that

0:40:52.680 --> 0:40:55.200
<v Speaker 1>much better if you're able to rush those throws from Herbert.

0:40:55.239 --> 0:40:57.759
<v Speaker 1>And so all of this again, I want to see

0:40:57.840 --> 0:41:01.160
<v Speaker 1>Michael Parsons. If Michael Parsons can have more of an

0:41:01.239 --> 0:41:03.960
<v Speaker 1>impact from a rushing standpoint, I think that changes the

0:41:04.080 --> 0:41:08.399
<v Speaker 1>dynamic of the way that we're being just pretty much

0:41:08.400 --> 0:41:12.800
<v Speaker 1>taken advantage of in secondary. Justin Herbert, is he the

0:41:12.920 --> 0:41:16.799
<v Speaker 1>best quarterback the Cowboys are gonna face from here until

0:41:17.560 --> 0:41:22.880
<v Speaker 1>almost Halloween. No, who's on Halloween. Yeah, Halloween is Kirk Cousins, Okay,

0:41:23.360 --> 0:41:25.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean I would even throw probably justin Herbert above that.

0:41:26.080 --> 0:41:29.520
<v Speaker 1>It's just the youth thing for me. I mean, Jalen

0:41:29.640 --> 0:41:32.439
<v Speaker 1>Hurts next week. Then you've got Sam Darnold week four,

0:41:33.000 --> 0:41:35.560
<v Speaker 1>Daniel Jones week five, Matt Jones week six, and then

0:41:35.640 --> 0:41:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Kirk Cousins is on our I answered your question before

0:41:38.000 --> 0:41:42.080
<v Speaker 1>you actually said Halloween. So am I bad? So is it? Yes? Yes? Yeah,

0:41:43.719 --> 0:41:46.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean yeah, And then it's Drew Locke, Matt Ryan,

0:41:46.400 --> 0:41:48.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean Matt Ryan, and then Patrick Mahomes those two

0:41:48.600 --> 0:41:50.600
<v Speaker 1>in November. I know Matt Ryan's not what he used

0:41:50.600 --> 0:41:52.640
<v Speaker 1>to be, but I mean this is the best quarterback

0:41:52.640 --> 0:41:55.120
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna see for good a good amount of times,

0:41:55.280 --> 0:41:58.000
<v Speaker 1>no doubt. So watch out for Jalen Hurts in week four.

0:41:58.080 --> 0:42:00.640
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, what did you think about him? By the way,

0:42:00.840 --> 0:42:03.239
<v Speaker 1>and the NFC's the only team to get a win

0:42:03.360 --> 0:42:05.480
<v Speaker 1>this past week was Philadelphia. What did you think about that?

0:42:05.600 --> 0:42:07.200
<v Speaker 1>I thought he looked I thought he looked great as

0:42:07.239 --> 0:42:09.080
<v Speaker 1>a rookie. I know he had some tough moments, you know,

0:42:09.680 --> 0:42:11.520
<v Speaker 1>when he would be forced to kind of throw from

0:42:11.520 --> 0:42:13.719
<v Speaker 1>the pocket, but he's a young player. And like what

0:42:13.880 --> 0:42:16.000
<v Speaker 1>he can do to extend drives. He just gets more

0:42:16.040 --> 0:42:17.759
<v Speaker 1>time in the system. I think he's gonna wind up

0:42:17.760 --> 0:42:22.520
<v Speaker 1>being their franchise quarterback. I really do think they put

0:42:22.600 --> 0:42:25.600
<v Speaker 1>their chips in the right boat. Yeah, right side of

0:42:25.600 --> 0:42:27.799
<v Speaker 1>the table. I do. That's a tough decision, but I think.

0:42:28.080 --> 0:42:30.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, you just never know, and you've

0:42:30.640 --> 0:42:32.520
<v Speaker 1>got to have it's it's a delicate thing. You gotta

0:42:32.560 --> 0:42:34.680
<v Speaker 1>have the right guys around your young quarterback. But I

0:42:34.960 --> 0:42:37.160
<v Speaker 1>think he's on the right track for sure. Both Jalen

0:42:37.239 --> 0:42:40.200
<v Speaker 1>Rager and DeVante Smith had a touchdown catch as well. Yeah,

0:42:40.400 --> 0:42:43.040
<v Speaker 1>it really makes my stomach turn just seeing him get

0:42:43.200 --> 0:42:45.920
<v Speaker 1>that confidence that he got versus in Atlanta squad that

0:42:46.440 --> 0:42:49.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't think anybody's gonna think is any good. But again,

0:42:49.719 --> 0:42:52.800
<v Speaker 1>it's young quarterbacks getting confidential and that's just gonna premiate.

0:42:52.840 --> 0:42:55.000
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna go throughout the rest of the season for him.

0:42:55.280 --> 0:42:57.560
<v Speaker 1>I loved him in Alabama, I love him in ou

0:42:57.760 --> 0:43:00.280
<v Speaker 1>and I hated that he got drafted by the buoy Eagles.

0:43:00.320 --> 0:43:02.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't like him anymore now, so you know, I

0:43:02.440 --> 0:43:04.880
<v Speaker 1>don't wish him well, but it's gonna be a challenge.

0:43:05.000 --> 0:43:08.040
<v Speaker 1>He's the second best starting quarterback in the division right now,

0:43:08.360 --> 0:43:11.480
<v Speaker 1>I would agree right now because rains Patrick got hurt,

0:43:11.560 --> 0:43:16.560
<v Speaker 1>Daniel Danny Dimes, Gombell had another fumble. Yeah, can't hold

0:43:16.600 --> 0:43:19.440
<v Speaker 1>on the ball? Can And now with the with the

0:43:20.080 --> 0:43:23.719
<v Speaker 1>injury in Washington, that sets them back for sure. Yeah.

0:43:24.120 --> 0:43:26.520
<v Speaker 1>With Heineken, I just don't think he can get it done. So,

0:43:27.080 --> 0:43:30.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean the NFC's is still ours. Did you see

0:43:30.360 --> 0:43:35.040
<v Speaker 1>RG three tweeting or tweeting the picture or he posted

0:43:35.080 --> 0:43:37.239
<v Speaker 1>the Instagram picture? Was RG three and it said make

0:43:37.280 --> 0:43:38.880
<v Speaker 1>the call and it was him running out of the

0:43:38.920 --> 0:43:43.200
<v Speaker 1>tunnel in Washington. Stop it really that? Now another sewers

0:43:43.320 --> 0:43:46.400
<v Speaker 1>league just happening at this stadium? You see that too?

0:43:48.160 --> 0:43:50.799
<v Speaker 1>That was so nasty. Can I run out one piece

0:43:50.840 --> 0:43:52.840
<v Speaker 1>of more news before we get out? Yeah? Did you

0:43:52.880 --> 0:43:55.239
<v Speaker 1>guys talk about kicker at all? Oh? No, we did not.

0:43:55.640 --> 0:43:57.759
<v Speaker 1>Just real quick, Jerry on the fan talked about how

0:43:58.000 --> 0:44:01.000
<v Speaker 1>you know the reports that they're bringing in Lirium Hi

0:44:01.280 --> 0:44:04.959
<v Speaker 1>lah who to the practice squad for depth? But Jerry

0:44:05.040 --> 0:44:08.200
<v Speaker 1>mentioned something new. He said that not only was Zerline

0:44:08.239 --> 0:44:10.840
<v Speaker 1>coming back from the back surgery in preseason, he had

0:44:10.840 --> 0:44:13.839
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a quad issue um leading up

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<v Speaker 1>to the to the season Hua when he first got here,

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<v Speaker 1>and then and then the back and now what did

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<v Speaker 1>you just quad? Father time, there's something to keep an

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<v Speaker 1>eye on going forward. Lerium Hira Lah who on the

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<v Speaker 1>practice squad and all the time has never failed, gets

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<v Speaker 1>us all, gets everybody, got everybody self with Tom Brady, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to talk about him anymore than theer.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see him in the end game, little figure. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>figure him out later. Nobody's ever figured Tom Brady out. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I was about to say, good look at that one.

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<v Speaker 1>That's gonna do it for us here on Talking Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>presented by Tostitos. Glad you've been with us here over

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<v Speaker 1>the last forty five minutes. When we come back tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 1>it's time to preview that Chargers offense. I know we

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<v Speaker 1>talked a lot about Justin Herbert and those receivers today,

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna talk more about it tomorrow and that offensive line.

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<v Speaker 1>What did the Cowboys do to match up with this

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<v Speaker 1>Chargers team? And then Thursday we preview the Chargers defense

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<v Speaker 1>for Chris Beam in the back, het Ma Harrison, Isaiah Stanback,

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<v Speaker 1>Rob Phillips, I'm Kyle Yeoman's We'll see you next time

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