1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Welcome with Everybody do It Monday edition of Texans All 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Access from the Honday Texans Radio Studio. I am John Harris, 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: your host alongside the Voice to the Texans and my PoTA, 4 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: Mark Vanniman. Mark. Good evening. How are you doing, Johnny. 5 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: I'm doing great. It's a great week because it's summer 6 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 1: and it's gonna get very cold this week, like low nineties. 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: So I want everybody to button up, buckle up, bundle up, 8 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: whatever you have to do to brace for this cold 9 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: front that's coming in here. It's gonna be tough. So 10 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 1: I have to pack tonight. Tonight, being Monday, I have 11 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: to pack for Los Angeles because and I don't know 12 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: what to pack. My wife is like, look, it's gonna 13 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: get cold, like cold, like what in the eighties, like 14 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 1: mid eighties. That's cold night, cold night in the summer 15 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: in La. Yeah, it is very much so so I 16 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: love it because I love wearing the longsleeve shirts and 17 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: and such, and so I'm I'm totally incompletely well fine 18 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:58,639 Speaker 1: with that. There's a reason why everyone moved out there. 19 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: What's the kind of time Because the weather is fantastic 20 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: in southern California. We all know that. Yeah, guess what 21 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: I'll take this. This is great for everything Houston has 22 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: to offer, outstanding lifestyle, lower cost of living than other 23 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 1: major cities, great culture, They text sends all of it. 24 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 1: If the cost is fifteen ten to fifteen more degrees 25 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: during June, July, August, I'll take it done. Sign Absolutely, 26 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: we'll take it, no doubt. I've taken a wearing the 27 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: big hat by the way to act this or if 28 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: I play golf, Yeah, the big hat like the Bob 29 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: McNair hat. I'm on that now. Yeah. No longer will 30 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: a baseball cap do it for me, Johnny, Because my 31 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: dermatologist was like, are you kidding? Let me introduce you 32 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: to the sun, and it's not good for you. Okay, 33 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: you know, contrary to popular belief. Now some of it is, 34 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: you know, you need a little vitamin D. But man 35 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: like every year he's hacking stuff off of me. Anyway, 36 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: no one wants to hear about that. And I know 37 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: some people might tune and thinking, are they gonna talk 38 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: about No, we're not no legal issues, Ye will not 39 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: talk about those here. It has officially become a legal 40 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 1: situation between various parties and the Houston Texans. And that's 41 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: not something we've We've said that from Jump. That is 42 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: not just we woke up today and went no, no, no, 43 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: We have said that from Jump. There are two reasons. 44 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: Number One, because you tune in, not because you want 45 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,119 Speaker 1: legal advice. You want to hear us talk football. And secondly, 46 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 1: we know nothing legally right at all. Oh I could 47 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: speculate all day long, Believe me, that'd be fun, just 48 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: total speculation, spew conspiracies and all that kind of stuff. 49 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: But that's not something we're going to do tonight. In fact, 50 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 1: we're we're gonna talk ball. And I came up with this. 51 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: I was watching earlier before the show started. Mark, I 52 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: saw this tweet from the I Am Athlete podcast. Now 53 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 1: I can't I don't know the difference between I Am 54 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: Athlete and the Pivot, but they're all sort of merged. 55 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 1: They're all right on the Athlete. I think it's that's 56 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: Brandon Marshall and a few others. Well, they had Julian 57 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: Ediman on, Oh yeah, and they were they were talking 58 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: with Julian Ediman about something Martell's Bennett said about Jimmy Garoppolo, 59 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: And I just heard that snippet and as they were 60 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: kind of talking through things, I started thinking, is Julian 61 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: Edelman an enemy of the state, meaning is he one 62 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: of the most hated opponents the Texans have ever faced? 63 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: And I thought, you know what, let's go there. Who 64 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: are the all time villains against the Houston Texas. Now 65 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: there are a few that are obvious. We can put 66 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: them up on the shelf. Peyton Manning goes up on 67 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: a shelf. He's an all time villain of And there's 68 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: another there's another reason I bring this up, and I'll 69 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: get to that in a second. Peyton Manning goes up 70 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: on the shelf like he's a Hall of Famer. He's 71 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame Texans villain. You want to get 72 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: a top five, let's go. We'll get We'll get a 73 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: top Peyton. Peyton's to me, he's number one because he's 74 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: sixteen and two against the Texans as a cult. That's 75 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: his cults record against Houston. And look, he did really 76 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: well against all the AFC South teams. Earlier on, Steve 77 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: McNair was doing very well and they were co MVPs 78 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: in two thousand and three. We were talking about division 79 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: branding and early on, you Steve McNair, Peyton Manning, Mark Burnell, 80 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 1: and oh, by the way, David Carr when the division 81 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: was invented in O two. Anyway, Peyton Manning's number one. 82 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna rank them yet, but t Y 83 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: Hilton is on the list for sure. Isn't he a 84 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: free agent? Still? Somebody? Should I name this person who 85 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: is suggesting to us that we sign t Y Hilton? 86 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: Kind of like a fun Drew Doherty. Drew Doherty said, 87 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: there it is, Drew, You're out. It took all of 88 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: me to say yes, go ahead. I mean, all I 89 00:04:55,360 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: need is one guy. So brew Doherty said, hey, why 90 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: don't we sign t Y Hilton. Yeah. I don't know 91 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: if he said it to Nick, but he said it 92 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: to us. And I'm thinking that's a tough one. And 93 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: it's a great talk show topic because back in the ohs, 94 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 1: I would do shows on six ten about villains and 95 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: things of Houston, and I threw it out to the callers, 96 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: would you take Carl Malone on this team? Would you 97 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: take him? And that was around the time that Malone 98 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: became a Laker, right, and that was weird enough that 99 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: Carl Malone was a Laker. Come on, but car Malone, 100 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: now we don't Carmelona Rocket seems really hard to digest 101 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: because he's a rocket all time enemy. I mean, he's 102 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: on He's in the top three for sure. Yeah. Yeah, 103 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: So I don't know if I can go there with Carmelon, 104 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: but let's leave that aside. T Y Hilton on the Texans, 105 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. You know, Eric Molds was not a 106 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: Texans villain, but it was weird to have him here. 107 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: Derek Mason was a Texans villain, but not a big 108 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: time Texans villain, but still a villainy and he was here. 109 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: That was strange to have Derek Mason. Derek Mason's on 110 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: the twenty eleven team. Yeah. I think Derek Mason plays 111 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: in the game at Cincinnati where they clinched the play. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 112 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: Derek Masons play because he's on the field for that 113 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: Walter um for the Walters amazing. Yeah, Derek, because Drey 114 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 1: wasn't because Drey was hurt that day. To be in 115 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: that game, it's incredible. Yeah, it's but t, why don't 116 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: you agree he's definitely in the top five. I saw 117 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: somebody tweet they were in Indiapolis and it took a 118 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: picture of t Y and they made some comment about, 119 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 1: you know, tortunate Texans. It's like, what do you say 120 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 1: to me? There is no bigger all time villain moment 121 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: than him showing up in the clown mask. I mean, 122 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: for all of them, for all of what Payton Manning did. 123 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: Payton just did surgical work on every team he faced, 124 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: including the Texans. And now we like him. But right, 125 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: and now Payton's cool, it's great, his nephew is going 126 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 1: to the University of Texas or supposed to. So showing 127 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: up in the clown mask. I'll never ever forget being 128 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: in my office and all of a sudden there's just 129 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: there's kind of this commotion and you know, kind of 130 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 1: people talking, and I'm kind of like what They're like, 131 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 1: did you see t Why? I was like what, I 132 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: go to Twitter. I go to Twitter and I see 133 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: him to comb ask him like, oh man, it is 134 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: on today, this is gonna be on. And then they 135 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: just kicked our That's the that's the worst part of it. 136 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: He just destroyed us, absolutely destroyed. I thought that that 137 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: was gonna backfire, and it so badly in fact, that 138 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: I was utterly confident. Oh when they see this, they 139 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: are gonna go after him. It is gonna be awesome, 140 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: and you know, maybe he'll have a good game, but 141 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: the Texans are gonna win this game, right and they 142 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: did not? Well was it twenty one to seven? It 143 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: was one yewenty one seven and seven came kind of 144 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: And the thing was, it was once I got the 145 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: twenty one, the defense shut him down for the rest 146 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: of the game. But she just couldn't get going. And 147 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: then hop got his ribs were all busted up or 148 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: something was going on. Hop was was busted up. So 149 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: t Y and Peyton, t Y Peyton definitely a third 150 00:07:55,840 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: because I have some ideas. Um, I'm throwing Brady in there. 151 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: Even though we got him the last one and that 152 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: felt great to get him in twenty nineteen, we got 153 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: him like that was that was such a good feeling 154 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: to beat the Patriots on Sunday night, meaningful game and 155 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: he gets picked off by Roby mission get picked off 156 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: by the Ohio State. You can't find me Ohio State. 157 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: That was It was just awesome. I mean, I just 158 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: remember being in a locker room. That was a special one. 159 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: And I remember talking to Robie about that. He and 160 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: he was he was. He was not always the easiest 161 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: guy to talk to, but man, that night, he was 162 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: so excited and it it was like he came back for 163 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: that game, and it was just such a dismantling of 164 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: the Patriots at game, it was a great game for us. 165 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: But before that, every time before that, Yeah, it's just worse. 166 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 1: And I'll never forget. In twenty fifteen, we played him 167 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: on Sunday night here and there's one point, it's like 168 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: twenty like twenty one six or twenty eight six or 169 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: something like that, in the fourth quarter and we have 170 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: not done much all night at all, and somebody from 171 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,959 Speaker 1: the texts, somebody from the Texans side defense started kind 172 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: of squawking. I don't know what they were saying, and 173 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: Brady and a few of the players just looked over 174 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: at the sideline and I could see them laughing on 175 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: the field. They were just laughing, humiliating. Oh, And I thought, oh, 176 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: this guy. And the thing is is I like Tom Brady. 177 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: I love his story. I love the fact that he 178 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: had to fight for everything he had, adversity that he 179 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: had to go through to get to where he was. 180 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: But then there was this death star fuel of and 181 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: he was the face of that. Okay, I'm I'm gonna 182 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: really laser focus what you're saying here, because to say 183 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 1: Brady's a villain, every team in the league, every AFC 184 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: East team's gonna say that. And I feel and I 185 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: know you could say similar things about Peyton Manning, but 186 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: I just feel something different about Manning because it was 187 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: eighteen games played as a cult and more against the Broncos. Right, 188 00:09:56,640 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: but you beat him in twelve, you lost him in thirteen, fifteen, 189 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: sixteen year up there Monday the football, but it wasn't 190 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 1: Banning anymore anyway, So what one and one is a Bronco? Right, 191 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: that's the record anyway. I feel like with the Patriots, Johnny, 192 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: it's Gillette Stadium, that's the villain. I feel like it's 193 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: you said death Star. I feel like it's that place 194 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,959 Speaker 1: because you beat Brady and oh nine and played that 195 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: damn song and they played Josie and I actually saw 196 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: that Super seventy Sports tweet this week and he had 197 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: a T shirt that said Josie's on a vacation far 198 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: away and said if we ever win the Texans beat 199 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: the Patriots in New England, I'm wearing that shirt because 200 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: they play that song when the Patriots have the game 201 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: in hand. So I'm gonna say this, I feel like 202 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: it's Gillette's stadium environment, the House on a hill because 203 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: that includes Belichick in there. Yes, well, it's the whole thing. 204 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: They're obnoxious fans that our position very close to the booth, 205 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 1: or the Blues position very close to the fans, so 206 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: they look up at us all the time, and you 207 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: cannot make eye contact because then they've got you. Then 208 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 1: they'll start shouting stuff because they know they're getting over 209 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: your airways, airwaves into your microphone. It is amazing up there. 210 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: I really do want to go back, especially now that 211 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: they have mac Jones, because I feel like, you know, 212 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:13,959 Speaker 1: you can match up better with them, but I've always 213 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: wanted to beat them up there with Brady, You're not 214 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: gonna get your chance to do it. And I mean, 215 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 1: seventeen was that shot. Seventeen was the shot. It was shot. 216 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: It was ninety degrees on a field. I mean, I 217 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: you know how I am I go down there. I'm 218 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: I wear I wear the tie where the quarters zip. 219 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 1: I wear that everywhere. And I couldn't do it that day. 220 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: It was so incredibly hot that day and everything. Like 221 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 1: I say, everything's going your way, but you're you're lobbing 222 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: the haymakers that you need to make. And there there 223 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: there throws their catches, their plays, and then they get 224 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: every break down the stretch, they get every break they 225 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: convert a big third down. Gilchris sacks Brady, but we 226 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: can't get the ball. Corey Moore's an interceptions hands, DP 227 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: can't hang on to it. Brandon Cook's play for the 228 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: Patriots makes that catching the sideline and when he gets 229 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: shoved and goes to the ground, it looks like the 230 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: ball comes out. And I thought about it as we 231 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: were flying home that night. I thought it wouldn't have mattered. 232 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: Brady would have thrown am But Brady would have thrown 233 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: the next ball to Amman Dola for a touchdown. There 234 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: was plenty of time, Yeah, there was plenty of time 235 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: he would have He would have plenty of time to throw. 236 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: That one hurts so much. I absolutely agree. And then 237 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: the next year we go up there in twenty eighteen, 238 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: we can't get Nothing goes right, Nothing goes right on 239 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: the first play, all the offseason practice, OTAs, minicamp, training 240 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 1: camp with the Greenbriar, all right, let's go lock it 241 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: load first first play for the scrimmage fumble. What But, folks, 242 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: this shows you everyone's human and you should never feel 243 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: that bad about a mistake unless you know, obviously it's 244 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: extremely costly in your life, but that even people who 245 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: do this much preparation can make a mistake like that. Anyway, 246 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: the year sixteen, seventeen eighteen. I mean, I'm not even 247 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: count two. I'm just kind of the first time that 248 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 1: I went to Gillte Stadium was twenty sixteen and three. 249 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: We went there. We that's that's a great Thursday night game. 250 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: And it's it's actually I stand by this. I'm right 251 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: about Gillette Stadium being a villain to Gillette Stadium. You're right. 252 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: Ride to the stadium on the Thursday and a half 253 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: hour and a half bus ride, Oh my god. Brutal. 254 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: It was absolutely brutal going to the stadium tonight. And 255 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: it's that's the game that they're in the I Am 256 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: Athlete podcast. That's what gets brought up. Basically, Martell's Bennett 257 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: said some things about Jimmy Garoppolo and we did face Garoppolo. 258 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we got this, And what they said in 259 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: the podcast, I don't think we knew that Brissette had 260 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: a thumb that was so bad that he had no 261 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: cartelage in his thumb, in his throwing hand, his throwing hand. 262 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: Twenty seven and nothing, right, twenty seven and nothing. Yeah, 263 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: it's okay. I'll give you a lette. Okay, Peyton Manning, 264 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:01,559 Speaker 1: Gillette Stadium, Ty hilt t Y Hilton Absolute Villains, Okay, 265 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: I've got another one for you. You can go next 266 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: if you want so. I saw this a top five villains, 267 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: and I'm sure people are out there like, no, you're 268 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: forgetting No, we'll get to him. No, don't worry. I 269 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: got a feeling that I know where one's gonna go. 270 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 1: I feel I'm thinking about that team, but I was 271 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: thinking about a different villain. Where does pac Man Jones 272 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: sit on the villain ranking? Is he higher lower than 273 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: Courtland Finnegan? All right, I won't even put Courtland Finnigan 274 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: in the top five. I feel like he was kind 275 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: of a gnat and a flea and a thorn in 276 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: the side a little bit, but not feel like Andre 277 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: Johnson just pummeled him. And I'm fine with not putting 278 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: Finnegan in the top five. I'm okay, with that Pacman two. 279 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: I'm okay, you know, because you got Pacman with the 280 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: Bengals right later on. Yeah, you got him a few 281 00:14:56,280 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: times out. Yeah, I mean I think that m I 282 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: think Chris. Uh. Why am I figuring his last name 283 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: with the Titans, Uh Johnson? Chris Chris Johnson. I was 284 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: gonna say Chris Henry, but that was another fast Chris. Ye, 285 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: Chris Johnson was he had a chance to be an 286 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: all time Yeah, he did, because he was really good 287 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: and really tough to deal with and people forget about 288 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: how good this guy was. But it was for a 289 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: short amount of time. I mean the year he was 290 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: c J two K to oh eight or oh nine, 291 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: I can't remember which is that eight or not or not? 292 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: Either way, the year he was c J two K, 293 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: Holy smokes couldn't deal with him. He was unbelievable. Yeah, 294 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: they found they of course in one of those games, 295 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: he was wide open, wide open. But I remember watching 296 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: the games screaming like, again, hey, the best player arguably 297 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: in the NFL at that moment is left wide open. 298 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: How does that somebody do something? Well, you know that 299 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: happened stadium too, by the way, somebody left wide open 300 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: but I won't get into Yeah, yeah, that's that's another one. 301 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: So you putting Chris Jo up, No, I'm not. Well, 302 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: I'll consider it, but I've I've got a strong entry 303 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: at four. However, I want to take these two players 304 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: and and merge them into one human, which you really 305 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: can't do. They're both defensive linemen, and they both had 306 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: a major impact on the career of your all time 307 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: leading as one of them would be Albert Haynesworth. Oh okay, 308 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: because Haynesworth is the one who broke Shob's foot yea 309 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: and said horrible things about it afterwards. Yeah right, Yeah, 310 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: and Dominic and Sue is the other guy who kicked 311 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: match Shob intentionally or not in the nether region. Yeah, 312 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: And you could argue that Shob was never the same 313 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: after that. He look, but the number kind of bear 314 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: it out anyway. You could argue that. But that was 315 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: not helpful. That was not helpful at all. Sue and Haynesworth. 316 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: I think Haynesworth, based on the Tampa Bay game alone 317 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: in twenty eleven where Shab got the Liz front injury, 318 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: is an all time Texans villain. I just feel that way. 319 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: I could I could go with that. I did, and 320 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: he did things. So the Titans. You brought up two 321 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: guys and I'm like, oh, I know exactly where he's 322 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 1: going with this. What Dwight Freeney and Robert mathis that's 323 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: pretty good. Freeny's a good one. I mean, matthis is 324 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 1: the one who creates the post Rosen Copter fumble. He 325 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 1: created it. H Gary Brackett kicked it up, didn't Yeah, 326 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 1: didn't he grabb He grabbed Rosen, He grabbed Sage's arm 327 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: coming from the other side, And that's what And Dwight. 328 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 1: Dwight Freeney was always the source of contention for Dwayne. 329 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: For Dwayne on the left side, I mean, they were 330 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 1: They're gonna have to take Haynesworth out and put those 331 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: guys in. I can understand the thought of Haynesworth as 332 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: a Titan too, Johnny, I know, but he didn't too much. 333 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: He didn't. Yeah, Um, that's a that's a tough one, Sue, 334 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 1: I would say, I get the point because he always 335 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,360 Speaker 1: had something with shop. I'm gonna give you a wild one. 336 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: It because it only happens every four years, but it 337 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: feels like he absolutely the last three times has just 338 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: completely obliterated us on Sunday night in twenty twelve, in 339 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 1: the snow in twenty sixteen, and then when he came 340 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: back here in twenty twenty, it was, I mean, he 341 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: was child's play. I don't know that I can go 342 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: there because it's chapter four years for Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, 343 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: but Aaron Rodgers sees us, and now he does this 344 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: to a lot of teams, so we're not the only ones. 345 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: But my god, those three games, it's monumental. The numbers 346 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: are great. I think I wonder what his numbers are. 347 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna look it up right now, but from 348 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 1: the O eight game up there, that was his first 349 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: year as a starter, and they went six and ten 350 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: that year. The Texans beat them up there in the 351 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: late field goal. Rogers was just a young buck then, 352 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: well he wasn't that young, because he was he had 353 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 1: been in the league, but that was her first year 354 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 1: as a starter, and Shob had the four hundred yard 355 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 1: plus game. But look, I understand what you're saying about Rogers. 356 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: He's put a huge number since then. I can't go there, though, 357 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: I think you're right, Haynes, words is too much of 358 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: a one hit wonder with that broken foot that he 359 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 1: caused in the other quarterback sneak by Shob. You're right 360 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 1: about Freedium mathists. It's almost like they got a fill 361 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 1: four and five. Who else am I for? I mean, 362 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 1: you probably can make them. You can make up you 363 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: could probably make a Freey mathist four. Just make that four. Yeah, 364 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: as a as we'll give them fours there. Yeah, four, 365 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: And well, Gilette Stadium encompasses a lot of things. I 366 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: was gonna say Belichick, but no, I'm gonna call it 367 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: the stadium because you have beaten Belichick here twice twice, 368 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: and then you beat him again in twenty twenty. Yeah, 369 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 1: that's right, that's right, that's true. That's Belichick that counts. 370 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: But have not won at stadium, but have not one there, 371 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 1: and and in ways that are just really hard to take. 372 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 1: Two playoff losses of there, two playoff losses up there 373 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,199 Speaker 1: games that you were down seventeen thirteen in each of 374 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: those contests at the half, which is weird. I've made 375 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 1: note of that. In the Brock playoff game, when they 376 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 1: closed to seventeen thirteen at the half, I thought, you 377 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,719 Speaker 1: know what, that's what it was last time here? At 378 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: the half. Let's have a better second half. Didn't happen 379 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: either time. Okay, Yeah, I got it. I got it 380 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: at number five. Okay, call them the four years, the 381 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 1: four years, because we faced them every four years, and 382 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:32,679 Speaker 1: I found another one. Okay, what one quarterback? Actually you 383 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: could throw another guy in there too. What three quarterbacks? 384 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 1: What one quarterback had before he retired with the New 385 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: York Giants? Do we never beat Rogers with what he did? 386 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: And then Russell Wilson. The other one is Russell Wilson. Yeah, 387 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: the four years we faced them every four years, will 388 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: face Russell again. But every four years, those guys pop 389 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: up on the schedule. Yeah, And because they were in 390 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: three different divisions, we were seeing one basically every every year. 391 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: It was Manning in eighteen, it was it was, no 392 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: dang it, Why am I? It was Rogers and twenty 393 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 1: and then we saw Russell Wilson in twenty twenty one. 394 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: It's like we would see them every and he wasn't 395 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: tremendous as past year, but he made enough plays. The 396 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: three he made to locket for a touchdown was ridiculous 397 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: against us. But the four years, every four years, we 398 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 1: were seeing one of those three guys and they just 399 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 1: obliterated us. Yeah, the loss in seventeen in Seattle was 400 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 1: really painful. We all remember that weekend and it was 401 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,360 Speaker 1: a great game, and I know you loved that game 402 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: so much, but it was a painful loss. It was 403 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 1: a great It was a great game up until then. 404 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 1: It's kind of like the way people feel about games 405 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 1: one and four in this recent series with the Yankees 406 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 1: or the Astros. Yeah, because I've never heard so many 407 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: people say that was a great series. Yeah, well you 408 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: lost two of the games on walkoffs. But all right, 409 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 1: but I get it because they led almost all the way. 410 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: They just couldn't close out those two. But just couldn't 411 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 1: close out those two. It's kind of a big deal 412 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,360 Speaker 1: because that's what the Yankees do, you know, they come 413 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 1: back on people and everything. But it was it was 414 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: a lot of fun to watch those high intensity games, 415 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: and you love watching the Evil Empire play. And you 416 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 1: know what, the Astros are the premier team in the 417 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 1: American League now, so how does that taste Yankees until 418 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: you knock them off the perch, And you haven't done 419 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: it yet, so we'll see how it goes this postseason. 420 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: That's the thing. That was so frustrating about Sunday's loss 421 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 1: is the fact that you take a gut punch loss 422 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: on Thursday right to the Yankees, but then you come 423 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: back with these two tremendous games on Friday and Saturday, 424 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: and it's causing all this consternation for Yankees fans, for 425 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: Yankee beat writers like the Astros own you. Then you 426 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,360 Speaker 1: get another lead on Sunday and you could just put 427 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: the nail on a You can't. You can't because then 428 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: that would have been like, well, Thursday would have looked 429 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,199 Speaker 1: so flukey. Yeah, had you been able to cast out, 430 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 1: you go three out of four, it's like and by 431 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: the way, not to make this a baseball show, but yeah, 432 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: you should walk them probably, But one of I, you know, 433 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: I'm a genius. Now everybody's a genius. Who said, so, wow, 434 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 1: you don't think you you think you've pitched them? No, 435 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 1: it's it's things because why do it this? I got 436 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 1: really upset and I've heard I already guys in six 437 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: ten our guys talk about Tony the Russa I don't 438 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: want to count decides to intentionally walk a hitter and 439 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: Tony the Russa it was like, well, it was baseball's 440 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,479 Speaker 1: two strikes. He's this kind of here, that kind of hair. 441 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: It's like as one some garbage, as a one two hitter. 442 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: He ye, yeah, throwing three balls out of the zone. 443 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: Maybe he chases one at one and two like you 444 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 1: make outthink yourself. But at some point you have to think. 445 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: You have to think, Hey, I'm not gonna groove one 446 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 1: to this guy. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna I'm 447 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: gonna make sure that this is one guy I don't 448 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: I don't pitch to. And he got me thinking about 449 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 1: Barry Bonds when Barry was right in the middle of 450 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: and and Judge is not quite Bob, He's not that 451 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: at all because the Balco bonds like you, just like no, 452 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: he they walked in with the bases loaded, right, they 453 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: walked in with the bases loaded, like you feel like, 454 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,199 Speaker 1: ultimately respect it, you know where he doesn't want it, 455 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: He's gonna go get it anyway. That's how great. People 456 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: don't understand. Don't remember how great he was. And I'm 457 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: here for the Balco stuff, Johnny, I'm just kidding, But 458 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: it was fun to watch. It was fun to watch him. 459 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: It really was. He was I mean it wasn't enjoyable 460 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: watching him do it to your team anyway, uh Russell Wilson. 461 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna put him in the top five, but 462 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: it's a good point you make. The twenty thirteen loss 463 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: is as painful of losses have ever had. I think, 464 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: all right, so we have Gillette Stadium, Peyton Manning, t Y, Hilton, 465 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: Matthis and Freeny. I think we have a spot open, 466 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 1: and I think it's up to the people in Twitter 467 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 1: verse to know who should take that fifth spot in 468 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 1: all time Texans villain hood. Oh boy, thought about who 469 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,239 Speaker 1: that one is, and I am not gonna I am 470 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 1: not gonna say it, but I know the response we're 471 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: gonna get from fans and let them. Let them, let 472 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,880 Speaker 1: them decide for themselves. Now, one guy who was part 473 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: of those teams at Toilette Stadium that did burn us 474 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 1: a little bit, a man named Philip doors Set. He 475 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 1: was doing his next right here on Texans All Access 476 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 1: Excess Excess Excess. So everybody, welcome back to a Monday 477 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: edition of Texans All Access. I'm here roach John Harris 478 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: football anad a sideline reporter, so glad to be with you, 479 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: and we are truly excited for many, many reasons of 480 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 1: this twenty twenty two football season. First of all, football 481 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 1: has gotta get here. Football doesn't solve everything, but ill 482 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 1: the damn if that thing is in a solution to 483 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 1: a lot of things, and it would help to have 484 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: football and we'll get it really excited in about a month. 485 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 1: It's about that time. I don't know that I've seen 486 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: anything that says when the Texas are starting training camp exactly, 487 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,439 Speaker 1: but I know it's gonna be about a month and 488 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: I'm pretty excited about that. One of the guys that 489 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 1: I'm really thrilled to see is Philip doors Set. The 490 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: first time that I've had the opportunity to talk to 491 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: Philip door Set. I think it was the first time 492 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: Mark has And that's a shame because ARC used to 493 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: be the voice of the Hurricanes, and Philip doors Set 494 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: was once in Miami Hurricane. He was also Indiapolis Colt. 495 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: He was also a New England Patriot. But now he's 496 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 1: a Houston Texans and that's a great thing. I think. 497 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: If there's a guy a candidate for I was a 498 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 1: comeback player of the Year, but just to really find 499 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,120 Speaker 1: himself with this team, I think Philip door Set, if 500 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 1: healthy could be that guy. We had a blast talking 501 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 1: to him during media days. Philip doors Set, Mark Vannimir 502 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 1: myself right now, Philip doors Set joins us now in 503 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,199 Speaker 1: Texans Radio, and I'm a little upset for what you 504 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 1: did against the Texans in New England, cults all of it. 505 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: But now you're here, so all is forgiven. No, we're 506 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: really grateful to the good last year. It had to 507 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: be a little frustrated the way things ended last year, 508 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: but you gotta be fired up for our twenty twenty two. Yeah. 509 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,479 Speaker 1: I mean, every time I see Lovey, he always tells me, 510 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: just start off the way you finished right, pick up 511 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 1: where he left off, and that's what I plan on doing. Honestly, 512 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 1: it seemed like you had good chemistry with Davis last 513 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 1: year and there were some interesting moments where you're able 514 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: to cash in on some big completions for some big games. 515 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: What was it like to work with him then and now? 516 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: What if you're seen as far as growth throughout the 517 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: off season in practice, it was great, Um, just coming 518 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: in obviously you got a rookie quarterback, a lot of 519 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 1: a lot of problems, a lot of upside and um, 520 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,360 Speaker 1: just watching him work and getting a chance to work 521 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: with him. Um, he throws a very very catchabook ball. 522 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: He has a really strong arm, and he's really smart. 523 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: Obviously he went to Stanford, but he Um he picked 524 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 1: up the playbook this offseason so quick. And um he's 525 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,919 Speaker 1: gotten better as a leader. Um. Uh, he's more vocal, 526 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: I would say, and uh, I mean he isn't really 527 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 1: the most vocal person, but I mean he talks when 528 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 1: he needs to talk, and he has that personality to 529 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: where he just he just feels like he's a he's 530 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 1: a gamer. I would say that he's laid back and 531 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: he goes out there and he can just play. He 532 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: sling it. Philip, I the game that you got hurt. 533 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if it was because in the game 534 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 1: you were balling out or but you could just sense 535 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 1: your frustration even more with it because you're really seemingly 536 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 1: starting to catch your stride in returning back to the Texas. 537 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: I don't want to say that, oh I got something 538 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 1: to prove, but do you feel like, man, they didn't 539 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: see all of me at the end of the year. 540 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: Now they're going to see all of me. Now. Did 541 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: you have kind of that feeling coming into twenty twenty 542 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 1: two a little bit. Yeah, I would say that. And 543 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: the reason, obviously, the reason I came to Houston obviously 544 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: because of Nick Caserio. I mean, he knows me, he 545 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: knows what I'm capable of. Love, He's seen me in 546 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: New England for three years, and um, I got the 547 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: chance to come in and he gave me opportunity to 548 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 1: come in and just play, and that's all I needed. 549 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: UM had a very frustrating last two years, obviously missing 550 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: all twenty twenty with a foot injury and missing part 551 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty one with the same foot. Yeah, it's 552 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,239 Speaker 1: been really frustrating for me. But I'm back healthy now 553 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: and I'm just ready to show that I can be 554 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: a guy that can go out there and help a 555 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: team win. Philip door Set joining us, What do you 556 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: make of the group the group of wideouts here, because 557 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: a lot of different styles, a lot of different skill 558 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: sets here among the wide receivers. Tell us about that. Yeah, 559 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: I mean I think, honestly, we have a really good group. 560 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: We got guys that um guys, different guys that can 561 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: do everything. Obviously me and Brandon the guys that can run. UM, 562 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: we can we're fast. He goes big guy that can 563 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: jump strong, Um that she come is gonna come in 564 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: and he's gonna he got a little bit of everything. 565 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: He's real reversatile, I mean, great route runner in the slot, 566 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: obviously has good hands, good run out of the catchability. Um. 567 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: I can't wait to just watch him play because I've 568 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: been a fan, a fan of him since he was 569 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: at Alabama. I remember him as a freshman. I was like, 570 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: who is this number eight? And I think it was 571 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: a national championship game out there, one of them. I 572 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 1: was in there, played with a lot of them. Yeah yeah, 573 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: they played all of them. People are gonna played all 574 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: of them? Yeah nah. But he's he's a really good talent, 575 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: and we got a lot of guys that can go 576 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: out there and play. A lot of people say you're 577 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: the fastest player on the team. Is that true? Uh see, 578 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 1: I don't like to I don't like to claim it, 579 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: um because if I do, Brandon gonna be mad. But 580 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: I would say me and me and Brandon are definitely 581 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: up there. We both can run. Do you think Cooks 582 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: is underrated in this league? And underappreciated might be a 583 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: better word. Absolutely? Absolutely, Um, the guy I see every 584 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: day go to work, the work he puts in on 585 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: the field off the field, Um, I mean, and then 586 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 1: he produces on the like on the field every every year. 587 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,479 Speaker 1: I mean, what six thousand yard seasons in the row? Yeah. Um, 588 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: I just feel like it's not talked about enough. He's 589 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: that grateful player and the consistency that he brings every day. Um, 590 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: especially Brandon or Brandon Brandy we were talking about earlier. 591 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: But Philip, you are one of a rare breed in 592 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: this building in that you want a super Bowl. You're 593 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: talking about nickis Sarreo. I guess I'm just gonna ask 594 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: you point blank, what's it like to win it? We 595 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: want to know, we want we want to do it. 596 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 1: And man, here's the second question. When do you break 597 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: out the ring and wear it? Oh? Because that's only 598 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: gonna be special times, right where like you know, it's crazy, honestly, 599 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: other than the ring ceremony, I haven't really worn it yet. 600 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: I haven't really worn it yet. It stowed away at 601 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: my parents' house. And but the answer the first question, 602 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: I mean, the super Bowl, it was amazing. It's just 603 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: one of those if you're a football playing you love 604 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: playing football. It's one of the greatest achievements that anybody 605 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: could ever have in life. I mean, the Super Bowl 606 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: is the pinnacle and going I've been lucky to be 607 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: into and losing the first one and winning the second 608 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 1: one it made it so much better because just losing 609 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 1: that first one is it can be like one of 610 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: the worst days of your life. And then winning it 611 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: the next year in that fashion, it's one of the 612 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: best days of your life. It was just amazing. Philip 613 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: doors set joining us. All right, let's talk Keynes here 614 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: for a moment. What do you make of what they're 615 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: gonna be like this year based on what you've observed 616 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: from Afar and Well, I have a follow up the question, 617 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: but go on answer that one. I think they're gonna 618 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: be really good. I know they're young, but obviously the coach, 619 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: coach Christal Ball, I mean, he's gonna bring that intensity 620 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: back to the program. I've heard. I heard about the 621 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: practices and I heard they're they're pretty they're pretty grueling, 622 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 1: and that's what they need. And um and I just 623 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 1: I can't wait to just watch him, watch him play, 624 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: because um, I feel like he's he's definitely trying to 625 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: bring it back. I mean, he's getting all the alumni back. Um, 626 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: he just got um high Smith back being each he 627 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: just got him back the program. I think he's gonna 628 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: bring It's gonna be a big when it comes to recruiting. 629 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,959 Speaker 1: Weren't you on the same Colts team as Andre Johnson? Was? 630 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 1: Was that weird because it was really weird for us? Okay, 631 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 1: just like it was strange for us to see Andre 632 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: Johnson the Colts uniform. Yeah, I know it's definitely strange 633 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: for y'all, But for me, it wasn't weird because obviously 634 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: I was happy because I worked out with him that 635 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: whole off season. We all trained together, and I had 636 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: no clue I was going to the coach. I mean 637 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: obviously he had no clue. But um, he was the 638 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 1: first first person that text me once I got drafted, 639 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: and um, it was just good to have somebody like 640 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: a big brother in the room that can go out 641 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:02,959 Speaker 1: and show me the way, especially because I mean he's 642 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer, right he should have What did 643 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: he go? Who wasn't first about it? No? No, he 644 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: should He's a finalist. Finalist again. Philip I asked this 645 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: question in Brevin It's kind of a corollary of that question. 646 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 1: You said, Mario Cristal Ball is the new head coach 647 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: in Miami. Does it matter to Canes that he was 648 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: a Cane because there's a certain places like North Carolina basketball, 649 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: they wanted a guy that's played or coach there to 650 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: be there. Doesn't matter to Canes that he's a former 651 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: Cane or other coaches that weren't never felt like they 652 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: kind of grabbed on. But does it matter that he's 653 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: a Cane that much more? Yeah? I think so, because, um, 654 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: even my coach, Coach Golden. Yeah, Coach Golden was a 655 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: great coach. But I think when you're dealing with guys 656 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 1: from South Florida and you're dealing with guys that want 657 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: to be in that program, it's a different breed. You 658 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 1: got to be able to understand them. And I think 659 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: christ the Ball he does. He understands that he's been there, 660 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: he knows what, he knows what the guys like. So 661 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,239 Speaker 1: I think I think that's what they've been asking for 662 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 1: for a long time. They wanted somebody that's been there, 663 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,959 Speaker 1: and they got one of the bests. So all right, Philip, 664 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: thanks a lot for joining us. Good luck. Thank you 665 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 1: appreciate it. It's always fun talking to guys about their 666 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,280 Speaker 1: pro experience being with the Texas all that kind of stuff. 667 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 1: But you know me, I'm going to dive into that 668 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 1: college stuff. And of course, with Mark being a Cane 669 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 1: having called games for the Canes back in late nineties, 670 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 1: early two thousands, you know it's a Cane thing you 671 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 1: would never understand. But I love talking about Mario Christo Bauld. 672 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: What's going on there? Big big news in college football 673 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 1: as Jaylon was shot at quarterback out of the class 674 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:40,240 Speaker 1: of twenty three, committed to Miami. Where's he from? California? Pittsburgh, California, Pittsburgh, 675 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 1: No Age, Northern California. I got in this this wormole, 676 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 1: if you will, of twenty twenty three high school quarterbacks. Yes, 677 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: it's a sickness. I know, I'm aware, But I started 678 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: watching Nico Iamyavelo, who's from Long Beach, Polly, who's going 679 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: to Tennessee. Apparently he's got a big Niyield nil deal coming. 680 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 1: And he's a volleyball player too. He's six one ninety. 681 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 1: Imagine Vince Young, a little thinner playing volleyball. That's Nico. 682 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,879 Speaker 1: Then you've got arch Manning. You've got Jaden Rashata, You've 683 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: got a boatload of quarterbacks coming in this class at 684 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:16,839 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. But Jade Rashata commits, Rashada Rashada, I'm 685 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 1: going with. Rashada commits from California. And if you sit 686 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,879 Speaker 1: there thinking, wow, California over to Miami. It's happened before. 687 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 1: Got by the name of Ken Dorsey from California ended 688 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 1: up at the University of Miami and how did that 689 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 1: work out? Now there's a lot of talent around him, 690 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,439 Speaker 1: So Jane Rashada is gonna need some talent from South 691 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 1: Florida to stay home. But Miami was always great and 692 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: they didn't always need South Florida to do it when 693 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 1: they had South Florida. Has made it down much easier 694 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 1: when they didn't have South Florida. Yeah, it made it tough, 695 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: but man, they got it done. Maybe they get it 696 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 1: done with Jane Rashata. The rumor is a nine point 697 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 1: five million dollars nil contract. It's enough to keep me 698 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,399 Speaker 1: in college for four years, maybe more. And that's something 699 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,840 Speaker 1: these college players are gonna have to consider. Man, I 700 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 1: got an idle deal for two million bucks. If I 701 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: go in the third round. I don't even know. If 702 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: I make that much, what's my signing bonus? What am 703 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 1: I gonna do? It's gonna be a tough decision, I 704 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 1: think here after a while, and maybe NIL in a 705 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 1: weird way works backwards and keeps guys in college a 706 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 1: little bit longer than not. So we'll see, and we'll 707 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: see what kind of recruiters those collectives are. But the 708 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 1: Miami Collective paying Jaden Rashata, He's a dude. He's an 709 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 1: absolute dude. Go check it out. There are a few 710 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 1: dudes out there in the world of high school quarterback. 711 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,839 Speaker 1: And if that sort of thing floats your boat, let's 712 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 1: go around the NFL and do it next. Plenty of 713 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,919 Speaker 1: things happening in the NFL, and we will talk about 714 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:41,880 Speaker 1: it right here in Texas All Access, right here in 715 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 1: Texas All Access. Right, we got one funnal segment of 716 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 1: this Monday a Day to Texas All Access from the 717 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:50,240 Speaker 1: Honday Texans Radio Studio. I'm your host, John Harris, football 718 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 1: analy side on reporter, So glad to be with you 719 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,760 Speaker 1: on this rainy well it's raining over by me. Hopefully 720 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 1: it's raining where you are now. It's not it's slowed down, 721 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 1: so hopefully it'll pick back up at least for a 722 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,280 Speaker 1: little bit and then slow back down at seven seventeen 723 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 1: so I can get in a flight to Los Angeles 724 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 1: see my wife and daughter. That would be very, very 725 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 1: nice of Mother Nature to do that. And as we 726 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,799 Speaker 1: go around the NFL, I know, obviously the biggest story 727 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,439 Speaker 1: in the NFL is what happened today with the legal 728 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 1: situation with the Texans, Tony Buzby, etc. Etc. We have 729 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 1: said many times we are not legal experts. We obviously 730 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 1: are employees of the Texans, so we certainly cannot speak 731 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 1: on that situation. It's unfortunate for all parties involved, but 732 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 1: just there's nothing more that we could add to it 733 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 1: or that we would want to add to it at 734 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,760 Speaker 1: this point, So we will just take on all other stories, 735 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 1: including when it comes to legal situations. Dan Snyder in 736 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 1: Washington refuses a subpoena. Nah, I don't know that you 737 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 1: could do that, but I guess you can. But that's 738 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,880 Speaker 1: kind of odd that he would do that. But then again, 739 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 1: in some senses to be expected from Washington's mercurial owner. 740 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 1: If that's the right adjective to use. Now, one that 741 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 1: caught my attention over the weekend was from Jeremy Filer ESPN. 742 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,359 Speaker 1: I saw tweeted at Bleacher Report. I didn't see at ESPN, 743 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,719 Speaker 1: but did't see it on Bleacher Report, and it said 744 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel has not and I repeat, has not, rescinded 745 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 1: his trade request from the forty nine Ers. The Niners 746 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 1: are still hopeful they can mend the relationship. Now, if 747 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 1: you're trying to think back about mending relationships and things 748 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 1: like that, yeah, sometimes these things get way far gone. 749 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: But about a month ago i'd heard Debo was thinking 750 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 1: maybe he was coming back to the forty nine Ers. 751 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 1: I don't know, this could be a money play. What 752 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 1: I've heard is it's not that Debo doesn't want to 753 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:57,920 Speaker 1: be that hybrid wide back anymore and he wants to 754 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 1: be a full time receiver. Now some people here, oh, 755 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 1: full time receiver. His value is the way he runs 756 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 1: the ball, not entirely. He was on pace for I 757 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,839 Speaker 1: think about one hundred and twenty three catches something more 758 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 1: on that number. For a receiver, that's pretty darn good. 759 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 1: And I have talked about him a lot because I 760 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 1: do think that weapons of his caliber are tremendously important. 761 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,799 Speaker 1: To having an offense, and maybe that's what John Metchi 762 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 1: turns into. Who knows, but having a guy that just 763 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,839 Speaker 1: gives defenses fits like you gotta know where he is? 764 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 1: Is he in the backfield? Is he out wide? Is 765 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 1: he in the slot? Where is he? That's first and foremost? 766 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 1: And then you start pointing at him and then all 767 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 1: of a sudden, boom, Brevin Jordan gets sound to see 768 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:41,399 Speaker 1: m A way you go. But the Niners' offense has 769 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 1: so many different quirks and different aspects to it that 770 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 1: having a guy like Deebo Samuel just makes it that 771 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:52,799 Speaker 1: much more difficult to stop. Now. I don't know if 772 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 1: Debo's got the stomach to sit there and hold out, 773 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 1: not go to training camp or whatever. And I don't 774 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 1: know what level of contract will make him want to 775 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 1: go back to the Niners without pause. But it's obviously 776 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 1: some thing to watch for the forty nine ers, and 777 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 1: most importantly for you, you you got to watch for your 778 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,399 Speaker 1: fantasy team, because with the Niners, if you have him, 779 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 1: and I don't know all the fantasy rules, but my 780 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 1: guess is that you get rushing yards and receiving yards 781 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,759 Speaker 1: if you draft him. If that's the case, he should 782 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 1: be a number one draft pick for your fantasy teams 783 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 1: if you didn't have keeper leagues, etc. Et cetera. But 784 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel and the forty nine Ers, the forty nine 785 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:41,320 Speaker 1: ers more so, then it sounds like Deebo Samuel trying 786 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 1: to get things all taken care of this offseason and 787 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 1: so they can get that contract done and keep him 788 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,759 Speaker 1: a San Francisco forty nine Ers, which makes me think 789 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 1: about what will happen if he's not. And there was 790 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,239 Speaker 1: some talk here should Texas go after Deebo Samuels, they 791 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 1: do it, et cetera. I just I didn't think they 792 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:02,839 Speaker 1: were in the right spot to do it in this draft. 793 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,360 Speaker 1: Maybe next year they would be in a spot to 794 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 1: do it a lot more cap room, kind of have 795 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,760 Speaker 1: an idea really where the franchise is going after another 796 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 1: another season. It might make sense. Then we'll see what 797 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:16,960 Speaker 1: John Metchi brings to the table, and maybe they do 798 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 1: look at a guy like Deebo Samuel, But right now, 799 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 1: I just didn't think it was the right fit. And 800 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,319 Speaker 1: obviously the forty nine Ers weren't about to move their 801 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:30,760 Speaker 1: most important and their most valuable player at that point, 802 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,920 Speaker 1: so they weren't about to do that, So yeah, I 803 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,440 Speaker 1: don't really I don't blame them too much for not 804 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 1: doing it. The USFL is going to get a second year. 805 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 1: They've got a contract re up from their TV partners, 806 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,320 Speaker 1: so good on them for getting that done. And Luke Keikley, 807 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 1: one of my favorite players of all time, we'll join 808 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,759 Speaker 1: the Carolina broadcast team. That's awesome. I love seeing that 809 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,719 Speaker 1: with Luke Keakley is one of my favorite players. He's 810 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,799 Speaker 1: a great golf the field. I have some family that 811 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 1: lived in Charlotte that lived just on the street from 812 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,879 Speaker 1: said he was just an absolute gem of human being. 813 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 1: So great news for the Panthers broadcast team to get 814 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 1: a little bit of Luke Keikley to go along with that. 815 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 1: All Right, we'll be back tomorrow and then on Wednesday 816 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 1: a very special seth pain Where are they Now? They'll 817 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 1: take up the whole show. It's going to be fantastic. 818 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 1: Can't wait for you to hear that. We'll see you 819 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,880 Speaker 1: next time, everybody and is always go Texans.