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Speaker 2: Live coverage about twenty twenty five Steelers Training Camp is

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Speaker 3: Our Number two. Here of the drive from a sunny

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Speaker 3: the quiet Saint Vincent College. And yes, the grounds crew

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Speaker 3: is still out there thing man doing their thing meticulously

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Speaker 3: watering the first field in.

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Speaker 4: Front of this by hand too. I mean like yeah, sprinkler,

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Speaker 4: like they're going and they are just sitting.

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Speaker 3: Where they want to douse that puppy with.

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Speaker 4: Two assistants that are just hose holders.

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Speaker 3: Gig if you can get it, is that a bad

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Speaker 3: gig if you can get it? Oh, no doubt about that.

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Speaker 3: Is You know what today to really nice day, like

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Speaker 3: the stun's been out and everything, but it's not it's

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Speaker 3: not crazy hot, really really nice day as and I

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Speaker 3: think we'll all add up to eight, which should be

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Speaker 3: a lot of fun tonight at Electra Memorial for Fred.

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Speaker 4: That right, I think.

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Speaker 3: I think so. I looked this morning and it looked

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Speaker 3: all clear, seventy three degrees and Sonny perfect, perfect. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: So great.

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Speaker 3: And I tell you what it's about. I think the

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Speaker 3: fans out here deserve that, Matt, the team deserves that.

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Speaker 3: You know, a practice where the conditions are going to

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Speaker 3: be ideal. It's not going to be ninety five degrees,

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Speaker 3: it's not gonna be rainy. There will be a lot

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Speaker 3: of work done there tonight.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it should be great.

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Speaker 3: Uh And of course a lot of work done tonight,

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Speaker 3: and there'll be a lot of work next weekend as

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Speaker 3: the Steelers get ready for their first preseason game. We

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Speaker 3: started talking a little bit about that Hall of Fame

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Speaker 3: game last night and quarterback usage for the Steelers. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: every season. How do you think it looks for the

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Speaker 3: Steelers offensive line in the preseason?

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Speaker 4: See that one's harry to me. Because they're so young.

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Speaker 4: I think you want them to play meaningful snaps together.

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Speaker 3: You gotta gel, you gotta have that cohesion.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, and Fatanu, I mean, didn't play all

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Speaker 4: last year. Now I'm not playing Isaac Mutch. I'm probably

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Speaker 4: putting Anderson at left guard more often than not. And

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Speaker 4: you know, see them all who might get like that

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Speaker 4: Rogers two series kind of thing, which is fine, and

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Speaker 4: I'm not worried about losing chemistry or you know, that

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Speaker 4: type of continuity with him. But what I'm saying it's Harry,

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Speaker 4: is I really would be uncomfortable if you lost any

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Speaker 4: of those starters totally, you know, and I might err

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Speaker 4: on the side of being a little less prepared on

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Speaker 4: opening day even though they're young, to keep them safer.

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Speaker 4: And I also think you want to play the number

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Speaker 4: two line a lot, a lot. Who can can one

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Speaker 4: of those guys be like, oh, okay, we found a

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Speaker 4: gem or two, or put.

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Speaker 3: Their foot in the ground and say I belong on

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Speaker 3: a roster on Sundays I can play.

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Speaker 4: Yes. However, I think we've had this conversation before. But

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Speaker 4: a duty of a general manager slash roster builder that

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Speaker 4: people don't think about for the preseason is I can't

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Speaker 4: throw out a junk number two oh line because then

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Speaker 4: I can't judge anybody else on the offense.

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Speaker 3: Get an evaluation to Will Howard.

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Speaker 4: If you can't Caleb Johnny time right exactly. You know,

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Speaker 4: maybe your receivers they get open, but the ball never

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Speaker 4: comes out. Fine, but I at least need to be

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Speaker 4: able to operate an offense from a blocking standpoint. And

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying the Steelers number two current O line

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Speaker 4: it's not like it's just to be determined, and it's

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Speaker 4: not like last year, you know what I mean. Last

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Speaker 4: because they're hopefully going to become one right now.

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Speaker 3: It's get McCormick in there, get there, get these guys

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's gonna be a tricky one. I'm definitely

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Speaker 4: be watching how snapcounts go with the line.

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Speaker 3: I would I would like to see. I would like

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Speaker 4: A lot. Maybe the tackles.

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Speaker 3: Maybe maybe like this Fraser has the starting series of

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Speaker 4: On the block you know what I mean, he might

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Speaker 3: Twos, if that makes sense. He might be the one

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Speaker 3: amongst the twos that you feel most confident about unless

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would. Now we talked through it,

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Speaker 4: which always makes these exercise better. Maybe McCollum is the

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Speaker 3: Good, kind of like what we were saying with Will Howard,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I can evaluate my run game with him

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Speaker 4: in there. He's not Webby. Yeah, I mean, I'm not

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Speaker 4: saying that, but he's a number two who's not fighting

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Speaker 3: He's an experienced NFL. He's been around the block, and

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Speaker 3: what year seven I think of his career.

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Speaker 4: Frasier is really important. Yes, you know, so, yeah, maybe

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Speaker 4: he's the O lineman that has the most snaps when

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Speaker 3: Wouldn't surprise me that that that definitely, I I don't

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Speaker 4: Like if they the fourth round pick and then I'd

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Speaker 4: be like, that's the guy that's gonna have the most snaps.

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Speaker 4: You know, absolutely that's not the case right now.

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Speaker 3: No, it is not. Yes, seventh year for Mason McCormick. Sorry, okay,

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Speaker 3: you're number two form for Wait no, sorry, I'm wrong,

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Speaker 3: fourth year party.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, that adds up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so that that makes more sense. But still an

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Speaker 4: This time, he's not going to embarrass himself and right,

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Speaker 4: and you happen to lose them, you can find a

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Speaker 3: And you can get a fair evaluation of the quarterbacks

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Speaker 4: But that's gonna be a difficult allocation. Yes, I'm sure

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Speaker 4: Pat Meyer and Mike Tomlin have to really come up

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Speaker 4: And maybe Fatanu is so good here that there's like

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Speaker 3: Sure, maybe maybe maybe that joint practice with the Bucks

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Speaker 3: tells you a lot too. Yeah, you know, we see

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Speaker 3: those guys get a little more work in Jacksonville, all right,

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Speaker 3: we're good, we've seen what we need to see.

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Speaker 4: So that actually reminds me of something of a year ago.

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Speaker 4: Like I don't know if you remember this, but roder

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Speaker 4: Jones was really rough at right tackle against the Bill

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Speaker 4: And there there were two or three two or three

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Speaker 4: it wasn't on TV, But his best stuff was really

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Speaker 4: just remembers what was on TV when they're sitting there,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that that's gonna be That's gonna be a very

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Speaker 3: interesting one to me. Yeah, I think particularly with guys

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Speaker 3: fits into that conversation well too. Maybe really liked what

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Speaker 4: But there's still more there hopefully we're not.

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Speaker 3: We're not crowned. I mean even somebody like Zach Fraser too,

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Speaker 3: who who we love. You're not crowning anybody awful one.

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Speaker 3: That's a that's an Arthur motism too, is I don't

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Speaker 3: care how good you are as a rookie. I'm not

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Speaker 3: crowning you after one year.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 3: I understand that unless maybe you're Ben Roethlisberger Jayden Daniels

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Speaker 4: Gonna protect like I'm not getting hit.

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Speaker 3: But but anybody, but anybody else like you got to

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Speaker 3: prove it to me at least the second year round,

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Speaker 3: and then I can start dialing it back for you.

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Speaker 4: I think that's a great way of looking at it.

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Speaker 3: But pretty close, Fiers, pretty close, and so it's not

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Speaker 3: like last year where you felt confident in eight guys

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Speaker 4: Exactly, we're considering what's behind him.

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Speaker 3: Now you feel confident in maybe six, and I can.

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Speaker 4: Put Callum out there over and over and be fine.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I completely agree.

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Speaker 4: I think I'd keep Fraser out of harm's way a lot.

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Speaker 3: I would as well too. Uh, let's go tight ends

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Speaker 3: before we before we get.

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Speaker 4: That's a tough one too, because they want to play

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Speaker 4: a lot of guys at once. Do you need to

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Speaker 4: get more acquainted with John who like even like Jalen

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Speaker 4: Ramsey and Slay are gonna be an interesting conversation, Like

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Speaker 4: they're accomplished, but they're new, you know, like you can't

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Speaker 4: just totally put them bubble wrap, but maybe can I mean,

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Speaker 4: I can see both sides. John New's not to that level.

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Speaker 4: You didn't trade for George Kittle, I mean, but I'm

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Speaker 4: sure he'll played plenty in the preseason, but not an exorbit.

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Speaker 3: Amazing familiar with Arthur Smith's offense.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but because you're often gonna have two on

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Speaker 4: just doesn't make who's gonna play the position.

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Speaker 3: I think we'll see a good amount of Darnell Washington.

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Speaker 3: I think we'll see him. Yeah, good amount of Connor Hayward. Yes,

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Speaker 3: of course, guys, they're very different and everybody.

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Speaker 4: Maybe one of those guys can say, man, I can't

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Speaker 4: let this guy. I need him on the practice squad. Yep.

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Speaker 4: And oh, by the way, they'll also that crew has

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Speaker 4: show anything on teams, that would go a long way.

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Speaker 4: But friar Mouth and Smith are tough to me.

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Speaker 3: They are because again.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the world would go on without the whole

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Speaker 4: They got hurt, But you don't want that.

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Speaker 3: You would really like to see those guys for seventeen

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Speaker 3: games and something match up problems that you'd be able

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Speaker 4: Get them to the starting line in week one, you know, And.

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Speaker 3: Like you said, I know that that is a delicate balance.

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Speaker 3: Like there's teams like the Bengals that have tried to

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Speaker 4: Whatever they out there in the first quarter, Go be

436
00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,720
Speaker 4: the best two players on the line of scrimmage.

437
00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,440
Speaker 3: You know, go wreck what they're trying to do. Yeah,

438
00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:10,080
Speaker 3: for a couple series.

439
00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you could be out there in third and long.

440
00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,120
Speaker 4: You can be out there in first and ten. Maybe

441
00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,119
Speaker 4: we'll move you up and down the line. Okay, But

442
00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,080
Speaker 4: for the most part, I think you really want to

443
00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:23,359
Speaker 4: sort out everybody else. And it's not even like like

444
00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,640
Speaker 4: Logan Lee to me is kind of enticing. We didn't

445
00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,240
Speaker 4: get to see much last year. I mean, he should

446
00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,359
Speaker 4: play more than Lowry. I mean, Lowry's the bird in

447
00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:34,440
Speaker 4: the hand, but a couple of new guys. Okay, I

448
00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,879
Speaker 4: really need to figure out, if I'm the Steelers what

449
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,879
Speaker 4: my true depth chart is, and I think reps of

450
00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,520
Speaker 4: quality players not named Cam Hayward will do that. The

451
00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,000
Speaker 4: guys aren't guaranteed a spot on.

452
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:46,960
Speaker 3: The team, Like I want to see a lot of

453
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:48,639
Speaker 3: to Marvin Leale, I want to say, I want to

454
00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:52,920
Speaker 3: see a lot of too, right, I think he's guarantee Lee. Yeah,

455
00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:54,399
Speaker 3: he's guaranteed a spot on the team, but I'd like

456
00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,280
Speaker 3: to see a good amount of Ya Black as well too.

457
00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,720
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, I may even play him some nose, I

458
00:20:58,800 --> 00:20:59,920
Speaker 4: mean move them around.

459
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,159
Speaker 3: It's a line see where he's comfortable, to see where he.

460
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:03,600
Speaker 4: Make him uncomfortable.

461
00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, right right, Yeah, make him, make him try a

462
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 3: couple of different things out there. Yeah, I'm with you

463
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:09,320
Speaker 3: on that one.

464
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,240
Speaker 4: And then yeah, that one, there's there's more good players

465
00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,840
Speaker 4: than snaps where some of these physicians are. It's the opposite,

466
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,800
Speaker 4: exactly right, exact terms of preseason reps.

467
00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think that one is It's a pretty

468
00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:22,119
Speaker 3: clear cut conversation as well.

469
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 4: How much you're playing high Smith not much.

470
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 3: Not Maybe it's maybe a series or two.

471
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,680
Speaker 4: But right, yeah, I think they're playing Sawyer a ton

472
00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 4: a ton I would see a lot of I'm not

473
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,280
Speaker 4: sure you need to play her big that much. No,

474
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,120
Speaker 4: I just know what he is. He's a dynamic edge

475
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,359
Speaker 4: rusher that will probably light up left tackles in the

476
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 4: preseason on third and eight.

477
00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:40,800
Speaker 3: I think he starts.

478
00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:41,959
Speaker 4: I don't even need to say I think.

479
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,000
Speaker 3: I think he starts in a couple of preseason games.

480
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 3: But he plays two series.

481
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, I bet like him and Sawyers start two of

482
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,480
Speaker 4: the three games. Highsmith's out there for one of them

483
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:54,440
Speaker 4: for a series, and you chuck and gatoray before you

484
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:58,240
Speaker 4: know it. Maybe a lot of moon Yeah again he's been.

485
00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 3: If he's healthy too. Yeah, he got up in practice

486
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:01,240
Speaker 3: the other day.

487
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 4: Well shoff is now is his second camp here. Maybe

488
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,119
Speaker 4: he can show them something.

489
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:14,159
Speaker 3: Yep, Carson Bruner, you know yeah team right, Yeah, true.

490
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,120
Speaker 4: But I was thinking the I think he'll play a time. Yeah,

491
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 4: I do, just the off of ball linebackers. I'm not

492
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 4: playing much, queen.

493
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,399
Speaker 3: Not playing much, Queen. How much of Peyton Wilson you

494
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,560
Speaker 3: playing a little bit?

495
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 4: I would like to see him do some green dots stuff.

496
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 3: I'd like to see him be the guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

497
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 3: without Patrick Queen.

498
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,120
Speaker 4: Maybe he plays next to Robinson or Brunner and he's

499
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 4: the the batman, the lead dog type guy and instructs

500
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:45,120
Speaker 4: everyone communication as coach says, do it in a stadium,

501
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,400
Speaker 4: that type of thing. How come I might play a lot.

502
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,159
Speaker 3: He's an interesting one. I think so too, especially so

503
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,160
Speaker 3: long since he's gotten in stadium action.

504
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,160
Speaker 4: Yes, And I also have another ulterior motive with this too,

505
00:22:56,280 --> 00:23:00,080
Speaker 4: is Mark Robinson's really shown up the last day or two.

506
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 3: When the pads go on. Yea.

507
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 4: And he is a powerful, explosive player. And I'm a

508
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 4: Hulcom fan. But if I play him a lot of

509
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,639
Speaker 4: preseason snaps and show the whole league he's healthy and

510
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 4: somebody's a linebacker injury, could I get a fifth round

511
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,119
Speaker 4: pick out of him? Six? I mean, like, I'm not

512
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 4: anxious to trade him, but if I have won too

513
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 4: many there, if boy Brunner is better than I think,

514
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,239
Speaker 4: or Robinson's not, somebody I want to cut. I think

515
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,920
Speaker 4: HULKHM could be a sneaky trade candidate. But you'd have

516
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 4: to showcase him first.

517
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 3: You know, you got to show the league he's healthy. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

518
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 3: that's an interesting point by you make fifth.

519
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,640
Speaker 4: Is probably too rich for him. But I mean he's

520
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,160
Speaker 4: got a lot of starting experience.

521
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 3: Sure, he sure does, and was playing at a very

522
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:42,680
Speaker 3: high level the last time we saw him.

523
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, and a have a luxury UNI right now.

524
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. What about Malik Harrison, He.

525
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 4: Can play plenty for me, I think so too. Yeah,

526
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 4: and maybe he gets some green dots stuff too, or

527
00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 4: you know, second half of games and if you'll lose him,

528
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 4: it's not the end of the world. But he can

529
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 4: say he can set a trend a little bit. He's

530
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 4: a physical guy. Smart. Yeah, he can play a lot,

531
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:07,880
Speaker 4: I think.

532
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 3: I think so that would that would not surprise me.

533
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 4: I'd expect them to make some plays too.

534
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,120
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think in those type of settings, I think

535
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:16,160
Speaker 3: he'll he'll have some flash.

536
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 4: Yes, like if Hulkan plays a lot, he should get

537
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 4: a ton of attack. He should should be one of

538
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:25,120
Speaker 4: the best players out something. Yeah, yeah, show up strong. Yeah.

539
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 3: Yeah. Now the secondary, I think it's pretty interesting here.

540
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 4: I think that let's start with corner. I would hardly

541
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 4: play the top three just because well, first of all,

542
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 4: I really want to keep them health harms, but I

543
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 4: think there's a lot to be shaken out of the

544
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 4: corners four through the rest. Absolutely, there's too many to

545
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,159
Speaker 4: merely make the team. Let's give Pierre a ton of

546
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 4: cover reps, Let's give Eccles a ton of cover rep

547
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 4: I think Echles making the team, but let's find out

548
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 4: even more about him playing on the outside, him on

549
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 4: the inside. I played Trice a.

550
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 3: Lot, Bishop a lot.

551
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 4: I played beating Bishop a lot. Maybe somebody gives you

552
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 4: a pick for whoever you're getting rid out of that

553
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 4: group or you know, yeah, and I would definitely play,

554
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 4: uh the seventh round, pick a ton k Kent. I

555
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 4: would play a ton. Yeah. Oh, so there's a lot

556
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 4: to go around.

557
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 3: I think we're going to see him on We will

558
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,360
Speaker 3: see him on on teams as well too.

559
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:30,160
Speaker 4: To me, like playing Porter, Sleigh and Ramsey not only

560
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 4: puts them in harm's way, but gets in my evaluation

561
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 4: of the others, Like it kills two birds in a

562
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 4: negative way out there, you know what I mean?

563
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 3: I completely yeah, yeah, completely agree with you. And that

564
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 3: is listen, that's what these preseason games are for. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

565
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 3: it's evaluation, evaluation times my best roster, right, and you've

566
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 3: got one less opportunity for it, you know, and that's

567
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 3: part of the thing. Like you you said in the

568
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 3: first hour, there used to be such a uniformity about

569
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,680
Speaker 3: how you would lay out the first four preseason games.

570
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 3: Now there's no exact formula, there's no right answer or

571
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 3: else everybody would do it, you know. So yeah, that

572
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 3: that though. Those guys in the secondary, I think you're

573
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 3: absolutely right with the top three. You keep them a

574
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 3: bubble wrap if they want a series here or there, Okay, fine, sure.

575
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it would make me pack or two. Great.

576
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 3: You know, you got to figure out what things are

577
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 3: gonna look like.

578
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 4: Kind of interesting, He's very.

579
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 3: Interesting, Shawn Elliott. I'm good on don't need to don't

580
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 3: need to see too much of him.

581
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 4: Jalen Warren, Like, I know he's not the best player

582
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 4: in the league, but I know exactly what he is

583
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,239
Speaker 4: and I just gave him money and I'm happy and cool. Yes,

584
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 4: does Killerbrew need to play any defense?

585
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:37,439
Speaker 3: Probably not not from an evaluation standpoint, right, Do you.

586
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 4: Want to play thorn Hill early? I would say yes,

587
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 4: I think so. Yeah, I think you play him quite

588
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 4: a bit early. I think you played Clark quite a

589
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 4: bit early. In games not late Sebastian Castro, he might

590
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 4: get the most. He might yeah yeah, yeah, like this

591
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 4: Watts who got injured last year, the sixth round pick. Yeah,

592
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 4: Ryan Watts, he's the guy that one broke my heart.

593
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,199
Speaker 4: He showed some glimpses like I would. I would want to.

594
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 1: Play him like a ton the preseason game.

595
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, just play a.

596
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 4: Ton and go get good and you know too what happens.

597
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 4: But that's also why he got injured. It was the

598
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 4: game late and you know, yep, so that could happen.

599
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 4: I mean, we know it's a tough league, but I'm

600
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 4: not sure there's a lot of wrong answers with the safeties.

601
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 4: I don't mean much of Elliott's killer Brew. I know

602
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 4: exactly what he is. The rest of them could play

603
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 4: a fair amount.

604
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 3: I see a lot of Chuck Clark out there.

605
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Castro gets a ton.

606
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 3: I think so absolutely, because he seems like one of

607
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 3: those guys that.

608
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 4: He was a priority free agent. He wasn't exactly gave

609
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,959
Speaker 4: him extra money and exactly I was shocked he wasn't drafted.

610
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 3: I was too, I was surprised.

611
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 4: I need to pay more attention to my practice too.

612
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 4: Not really. He hasn't stood out to me one way

613
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 4: or another.

614
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 3: Yep, we'll it'd be nice. We'll get some more We'll

615
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 3: get some more padded practices rolling in here finally. Yeah,

616
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 3: I think that covers it. Oh oh, last one I

617
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 3: had for you kickers, Well, I just and I know

618
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 3: it's funny, but yeah, punters of kickers. Yeah, because just

619
00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 3: I I just assume we'll see a lot of cordless

620
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 3: weight and we'll see a lot of bensalls I soon.

621
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, does Bossie swing his leg or even

622
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 4: put a helmet on once in the preseason. No, I

623
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 4: don't want him having to make a tackle on a

624
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 4: kick cam.

625
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 3: Johnson. You want to let get out there and to

626
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 3: get in a live setting. Yeah, yeah, since it's been

627
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 3: you know, eleven months since he's been in that setting.

628
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 4: And I think weightman also qualifies as a potential trade candidate.

629
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 3: We talked about that a little bit.

630
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know if that'll happen. That's easier

631
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 4: said than done. Something's going to actually give you something

632
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 4: for a punter that they know you're gonna cut, right,

633
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 4: But if he's booming him and has as good.

634
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 3: As someone gets an injury or something.

635
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, can'turt put tape out there. Yeah, and it actually helps.

636
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 4: I know that this isn't this league isn't about making

637
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 4: everybody happy and kumbaya. But when you have that second

638
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 4: kicker that has zero chance to make the team, and

639
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 4: less so for weightman because he at least has NFL tape, Yeah,

640
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 4: you're doing the young man a favor totally to say,

641
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 4: go kick six preseason field goals because now you're on

642
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 4: every one's radar.

643
00:28:58,520 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 3: Get the ten out there.

644
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then when you ask the next priority kicker

645
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 4: to come, they'll be like, Okay, you.

646
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 3: Guys did right by him. Yeah. Yeah, guys will give

647
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 3: you a fair crash to get your name out there.

648
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 4: I'll at least showcase you the best of my abilities,

649
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 4: right as opposed to, you know, I'm not gonna be

650
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 4: bas out, you know, right as opposed to like an

651
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 4: agent telling hey, don't go there.

652
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Speaker 3: We're gonna give you any chance. Right, You're just gonna

653
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Speaker 3: stand around, going to be employed for three weeks, and

654
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Speaker 3: then you're going to be right back where you were at.

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Speaker 4: No team in the leagues anymore exactly, right, call everybody else.

656
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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, that that is that's that's the scouting background

657
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Speaker 3: nuggets that we look for from Matt Williams in there.

658
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Speaker 3: Goodwill with agents, which is never a bad thing in

659
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Speaker 3: this league, or in fact, in any league, and across

660
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Speaker 3: the the sports landscape in this country. Let's take a

661
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Speaker 3: break here, watering out there's still still watering out there.

662
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Speaker 3: I tell you what. Impressive. Yeah, now they're on this here. Yeah,

663
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Speaker 3: it's fascinating, it really is. That's like the biggest that's

664
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Speaker 3: like a fireman's.

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Speaker 4: Hose that they're using. Yeah, this dude's got it over

666
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Speaker 4: his shoulders. I don't think that does any good or

667
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Speaker 4: changes whatsoever, but that's fine. Experts.

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Speaker 3: They are the experts, and they are working hard without

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Speaker 3: a doubt. We'll come back close down this three o'clock hour.

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Speaker 3: We'll have the bonus hour as well too. Still playing

671
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Speaker 3: more to get to as we roll along. Matt Williamson,

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Speaker 3: West Shuler, it's the drive here. All part of our

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Speaker 3: ongoing training camp coverage on Steelers Nation Radio on the

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Speaker 3: the Steelers Audio Network, West Shooler and Matt Williamson with

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Speaker 3: you for about another hour and fifteen minutes up until

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Speaker 3: five o'clock. Of course, the show, the Big Show gets

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Speaker 3: started over at Latrow Memorial at seven o'clock. As well.

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Speaker 3: There will be some coverage on Steelers dot Com. I've

689
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Speaker 3: gotten some tweets and some messages about this from some

690
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Speaker 3: of the out of towners as well too. There will

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Speaker 3: be some coverage of Friday Night Lights on Steelers dot Com,

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Speaker 3: But there is no way to watch or broadcast or

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Speaker 3: anything like that watch a game right exactly right, So

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Speaker 3: you got to either be there. Like I said, you'll

695
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Speaker 3: be able to get some you know, snapshot of it

696
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Speaker 3: in some of the warm up early periods on Steelers

697
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Speaker 3: dot com with Pursuda and Labs and Missy Matthews. But

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Speaker 3: if you want to see all the action, the only

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Speaker 3: way to see it.

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Speaker 4: The video staff will be over there doing their thing.

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Speaker 3: They will be and like there'll be highlights and stuff

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Speaker 3: like that. Sure that are posted. But I had three

703
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Speaker 3: or four different people that tweeted me and someone who

704
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Speaker 3: messaged me on Instagram today asking if there was any

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Speaker 3: way to watch Friday night lights. The only way, folks,

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Speaker 3: is with your two eyeballs at Latro Memorial Stadium. Just

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Speaker 3: a couple of miles down the road, matt Just a

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Speaker 3: couple of little news and noteworthy things for you here.

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Speaker 3: Keenan Allen. You know, a one of those short list

710
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Speaker 3: of veteran wide receivers still left on the market is

711
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Speaker 3: set to visit with the LA Chargers today, the team

712
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Speaker 3: that he spent the first decade of his career with.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and that adds up. You know, they played last night.

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Speaker 4: Maybe they just weren't happy with what some of the

715
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Speaker 4: young pups are counting on or whatever. Alan's interesting. He

716
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Speaker 4: doesn't really interest me for the Steelers. He has been

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Speaker 4: you know, he's a cow guy and Aaron Rodgers a

718
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Speaker 4: cow guy. I'm yeah, But they didn't even play again. Right. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: So Alan has had a very very very good career

720
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Speaker 4: and even when he came out though he was a

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Speaker 4: third round pick because he ran like a four six

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Speaker 4: nine or a four to seven. He's not a burner.

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Speaker 4: He is an old man at the gym, you know,

724
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Speaker 4: on the hoop core type of game, almost exclusively a

725
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Speaker 4: slot and has definitely lost a step, you know. So

726
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Speaker 4: he's a crafty, move the chain slot player. And I

727
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Speaker 4: think he's basically said, I'm a West Coast guy. I

728
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Speaker 4: want it signed with the West Coast team. Cow played

729
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Speaker 4: at the Bears last year, but I think he's my career.

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Speaker 4: I'd go back to the Chargers and they should probably

731
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Speaker 4: sign him. He'll be cheap and that makes sense, and.

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Speaker 3: It's even if it doesn't work out, it's not like

733
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Speaker 3: it's going to hamper you now anyway.

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Speaker 4: He'll play for someone as a third receiver this year.

735
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Speaker 3: But you would still year if you could sign one

736
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Speaker 3: of these free aged guys to be here at practice tomorrow,

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Speaker 3: you would still go Gabe Davis or Amari Cooper before

738
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Speaker 3: you go Keenan Allen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because the style of who they are as a

740
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Speaker 4: bigger outside Yeah, exactly. I just think that stylistically, That's

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Speaker 4: what I'm looking for more.

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Speaker 3: Can you pick at return to practice today with the Browns? Okay,

743
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Speaker 3: what happened like when we were at Sharky's last night and.

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Speaker 4: If someone asked us about Canny pick.

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Speaker 3: I forget, I forget, I forget his name. But there

746
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Speaker 3: was a guy at Sharky's who, uh just asked our

747
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Speaker 3: thoughts on Kenny Pickett and how the whole in particular Browns, Like,

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Speaker 3: you know, they've got Joe Flacco, they've got Kenny Picketty, Yeah,

749
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Speaker 3: two Roos draft picks, and Deshaun Watson is still under

750
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Speaker 3: contract as well too. What's their quarterback like when when

751
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Speaker 3: they're when their cuts come down and we get to

752
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Speaker 3: the season, what's that look like?

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, I think you're to end

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Speaker 4: up wasting either a draft pick that you gave for

755
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Speaker 4: picket or a draft pick that you used for your

756
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Speaker 4: your own guys, because I think Flacco is a starter.

757
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Speaker 4: You're gonna keep three. Maybe someone gives you a late

758
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Speaker 4: pick for one of those dudes. But I've said all

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Speaker 4: along that it makes no sense at all for allocating snaps.

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Speaker 4: You know, we said just went in the Steeler preseason

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Speaker 4: pretty clear cut. How you can lay it out and

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Speaker 4: make everybody happy and get the most out of them.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how you do that with Cleveland.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, I imagine Joe Flacco won't play

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Speaker 3: much in the preseason.

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Speaker 4: I assume, but he's he was not Brown last year,

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Speaker 4: and he's your starting quarterback and you want him to

768
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Speaker 4: play with Jerry Judy and Nadjoku and you know, get

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Speaker 4: some reps. I assume he still plays the least, but

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Speaker 4: I think he's the guy that they're gonna start and

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Speaker 4: he needs some reps. Absolutely, and more so than like

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Speaker 4: a Rogers situation.

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Speaker 3: Yes to me, Oh absolutely, because again, it'd be one

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Speaker 3: thing if he and I know he's with the Browns

775
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Speaker 3: two years ago, right then there's not something that is something.

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Speaker 3: But it's not like he's been there for two or

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Speaker 3: three years, right, Okay, no problem, He's going to be

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Speaker 3: our guy on day one. That's That's one of those

779
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Speaker 3: if you're talking about preseason usage, there's not much really

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Speaker 3: outside of the few things we need to know for

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Speaker 3: Steelers stuff that I'm interested in the preseason. You know,

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Speaker 3: it's a lot of Yeah, it's a lot of the

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Speaker 3: same hurry up and wait type of conversations. But I'd

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Speaker 3: be very interested to see, like you were saying, you know,

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Speaker 3: does Will Howard play fifty percent? Fifty five percent? Kind

786
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Speaker 3: of how we did that? You know, Rixon Rudolph gets

787
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Speaker 3: twenty five percent. I'll be very interesting to see how

788
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Speaker 3: that pie is split, you know, after the three preseason

789
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Speaker 3: games for Cleveland.

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Speaker 4: I think it's the most interesting one of all and

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Speaker 4: the hardest pie is split by far, right. I mean,

792
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 4: it'd be hell if we were at their camp and

793
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 4: be like, man, shouts really playing well, let's give him

794
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 4: more and more. Sure, Okay, but even their practice reps

795
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 4: are hard to divvy up real hardly.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be more difficult in the preseason camp.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, and then you're throwing somebody out there behind like

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Speaker 4: a third string offensive line, and they're not going to

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Speaker 4: look as good.

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Speaker 3: And speaking of you know, I feel like we've we've

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Speaker 3: talked a little bit about the Jets throughout this process too.

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Speaker 3: Of course, that justin Fields news the scare on the

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Speaker 3: first day of camp. We all know there's a lot

804
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Speaker 3: of crossover storylines with Fields being there, Rogers and some

805
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,919
Speaker 3: other former tricks being here. It's also the Steelers Week

806
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Speaker 3: one opponent up there at MetLife Stadium.

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Speaker 4: Kind of like the Arthur Smith Falcons thing the year

808
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 4: exactly right. And what's weird is you know how I

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Speaker 4: do the Matt stat thing yea for those situations, like

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Speaker 4: I would pull Arthur Smith's stuff from his Falcons days

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Speaker 4: and put it on Steeler offense. You know, like sure,

812
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Speaker 4: I'm pulling the field stuff out of Steeler offense and

813
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Speaker 4: putting it on Jet offense vice versas Rogers. You know,

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Speaker 4: like kind of makes it weird.

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Speaker 3: It certainly does. But it's like two stories. It'll be

816
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Speaker 3: a lot of fun. Right we get there in September.

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00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 3: Not great news for them today. Quinn william is going

818
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 3: to be out two weeks, a couple of weeks with

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Speaker 3: a strained left calf Peron.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure he won't ever touch the preseason. That's big news.

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Speaker 4: That's he's their best play.

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Speaker 3: He's the best play.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you could say it's sa Us, you could

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Speaker 4: say it's Wilson. I think Quinn Williams.

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Speaker 3: He's the most consistent good player.

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Speaker 4: I think he's right there with Cam Hayward. Is the

827
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 4: third or fourth best defensive tackle in the league. They

828
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 4: can get a little overshadowed on a bad team. And

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Speaker 4: I'm just sitting here thinking, do we know he's going

830
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Speaker 4: to be there in week one for the Steelers. I mean,

831
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Speaker 4: that's a big advantage if he's out.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely or even if he's not quite up the speed

833
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Speaker 3: yet right.

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Speaker 4: Right or fifty or he's only doing passing downs at

835
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Speaker 4: that point, or who knows.

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Speaker 3: Maybe they think it's two weeks, but it ends up

837
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Speaker 3: being closer.

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Speaker 4: To a month. Yeah, all of a sudden is always

839
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Speaker 4: it was a calf, Yeah, and it always takes a

840
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 4: lot longer than any thing.

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Speaker 3: And like you're talking about to that whole getting into

842
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Speaker 3: football shape thing, right, he'll be behind the.

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Speaker 4: Right As I sit here and think, I mean, this

844
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 4: is just off on my head. If if I could

845
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Speaker 4: take one jet out of that game, he might be

846
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Speaker 4: my choice.

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00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like Gary will Fields is probably a

848
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 3: bad but yeah.

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Speaker 4: Right, I mean I thought about Wilson too, just because

850
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 4: the receivers are so bad other than him, But I

851
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 4: think that's the Williams is probably their best player.

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Speaker 3: I think that's the answer. Yeah, all right, let's get

853
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Speaker 3: to our final break of this hour. We'll have the

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Speaker 3: Bonus hour on the other side, I want to talk

855
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Speaker 3: a little Hall of Fame stuff with Matt Williamson. I

856
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 3: want to hear from DK Metcalf and Will Howard as

857
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 3: well too. And we got some of your tweets before

858
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Speaker 3: we get up out here, so plenty to get too

859
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Speaker 3: in the final hour of the program, Well Shuler, Matt Williamson,

860
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Speaker 3: the bonus hour of the Drive coming up on the

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Speaker 3: other side. All part of our training camp coverage here

862
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Speaker 3: at Saint Vincent College on Steelers Nation Radio on the

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Speaker 3: Steelers Audio Network.