1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: This episode is also available as video on YouTube. You 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: can visit Norah Jones channel and be sure to subscribe 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: while you're there. Hi, I'm Norah Jones and today I'm 4 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: playing along with John Legend. I'm just playing Louy, I'm 5 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: just playing lone. 6 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 2: Hey. 7 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: I'm Norah Jones. Welcome to the show. This is my 8 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: co host and friend Sarah Oda. Hi. 9 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 3: Our guest today is the singer, songwriter, producer, and E 10 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 3: Got artist. Oh my gosh, that's right, John Legend. Sorry, right, 11 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 3: that's right. 12 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:44,279 Speaker 1: I forgot about the you Got. 13 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 3: Part E Got Emmy, Grammy, Oscar, Tony, you got them all? 14 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: Somebody ever made that joke before? I don't know, but 15 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: I felt pretty good about it. 16 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 3: He's also a longtime coach on the Voice and founder 17 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 3: of the skincare line Loved One. He's currently celebrating the 18 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 3: twentieth anniversary of his debut album, Get Lifted, with special 19 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 3: tour and performances. 20 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: Which we went to last night. M Yeah, and we 21 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: Got Lifted. We Got Lifted. We went to see him 22 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: play in New York City and it was really special. 23 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: He's so incredible. I only met him for the first 24 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 1: time last year, and when we recorded a song together 25 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: called Summertime Blue, which we may do in this episode. 26 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: And I was surprised I'd never met him before that 27 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: because we've both been like in the business for so long. 28 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, And in this episode, you're going to hear about 29 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 3: how you kind of have a parallel coming out moment 30 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 3: as artists. You're also gonna hear about the story of 31 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 3: one of his most beloved songs, and also how you 32 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 3: got the nickname track thirteen. And the episode wraps with 33 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 3: a little holiday nugget. 34 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if I would want to call it that. 35 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: The episode wraps of the little holiday treat I like 36 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: that better. Yeah, a little bit of Christmas at the end. 37 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: So I hope you enjoyed this episode. We had so 38 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 1: much fun, the one the only John Legend. 39 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 4: Oh, summertime, summertime, summertime, you took home. 40 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 5: My love, summertime, summertime, summertime. It's true. 41 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 2: I'm still thinking of you. Left you in a day dream. 42 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 2: Now you lasson. 43 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 5: Summer time, summertime, Soler's time. 44 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 2: For hours, feeling good. I was on the road. Didn't 45 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 2: let it show. 46 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 6: That I was falling for you, specially laughing love and just. 47 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 2: Like a fool was ever an undertone. 48 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,959 Speaker 1: When a pooled and closed. 49 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 7: I now I'm wondering your castles come in too. 50 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 5: Summertime, summertime, summer time. You took all my loby. 51 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 4: Summertime, summertime, summertime. 52 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 2: It's true. I'm still thinking love here, hold you all day? 53 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 5: Now you wash a me. 54 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 2: Summertime? 55 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 8: Do you get you. 56 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 9: Still see there's some lie dancing off your hair, But 57 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 9: at didn't. 58 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 5: Let you catch me dream. 59 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 7: My mind was running wild heat off your smile. 60 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 5: I was spent a while. 61 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 10: Since I've heard of you, and now wondering where you 62 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 10: just passing through? 63 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,119 Speaker 5: Summertime, summertime, summer time. 64 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 2: You took on my love. 65 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 5: Him, summertime, summertime, summertime. 66 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: It's true. 67 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 7: I'm still thinking out to lead that day. 68 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 5: Now you wash. 69 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 2: Summertime. 70 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 6: I feel it too, summertime smut SEMTI is too. 71 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 7: I'm still thinking of June day, j now you washy. 72 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 2: Summertime all because of it? 73 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, yes, that felt great, great, Yay, all right, 74 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna move over there all right. Sorry, Yeah, so 75 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: thanks for doing it, thank you. Yeah. So we did 76 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: this song together. We released it this past summer with 77 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: Greg Wattenberg. Y. Yeah, I've only known him like maybe 78 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 1: a few years. But how long have you known him? 79 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 8: It's been quite a few years. Greg is a wonderful 80 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 8: producer and songwriter. He's just a lovely guy, and we 81 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 8: had done a few songs together over the years. My 82 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 8: favorite is probably a song called Conversations in the Dark 83 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 8: Nice that I did with him on which album was. 84 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 11: That Bigger Love album. 85 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 8: And he was working with you and he was like, 86 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 8: I would love for you to to do something together. 87 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 8: And you guys had written this song or you had 88 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 8: started writing it, and then we got together at my 89 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,239 Speaker 8: studio here in Los Angeles and finished writing it together. 90 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: That was fun. 91 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 11: That was so much. 92 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, was there? 93 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 8: Yes, yes, so you Our studio is also in office 94 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 8: and like the headquarters for her company, Cravings, and they 95 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 8: just make food for a living. So they make food 96 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 8: that goes in grocery stores, and they make cookbooks and 97 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 8: all these things. So the house where we work is 98 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 8: just always brimming with food and music all the time. 99 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 8: And that's like our work house. And so you got 100 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 8: to come to our workhouse have some rose with Yeah. 101 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: It was fun. I felt like I was at your house. 102 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: And then I realized, no, this isn't their house house. 103 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 11: Yes, no kids there. 104 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 8: Yeah, but the kids school is actually down the street 105 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 8: from there too, so they're there a decent amount to 106 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 8: Sometimes we'll just walk to school and pick them up 107 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 8: and have them come to the office. 108 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: And great. Yes, that's the way to live. 109 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 11: I think it's a great way to live live. 110 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's great. I have a studio in my 111 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: basement in New York and it's awesome. 112 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 11: Yeah. 113 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 8: I've once had a studio in the place where I 114 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 8: actually lived here in Los Angeles, and I liked going 115 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 8: away to feel like I was going to work, and 116 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 8: so this is like away from home, but it feels 117 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 8: like home too at the same time. 118 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know what you mean. It works well, it's 119 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: a nice balance. That's awesome. I can't believe we've never 120 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: met until we did that song in that wild we've 121 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: never even met in past. 122 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, it's crazy not to be dark. But 123 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 8: I was thinking that about di'angelo today, because you know, 124 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 8: we're filming this on the day that di'angelo passed away, 125 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 8: and I was like, I feel like we know so 126 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 8: many people in common, but I never talked to D'angela. 127 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 8: I never spent time with him. I looked up to 128 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 8: him and listened to his music a lot. But some people, 129 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 8: you just your circles are really close to each other, 130 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 8: but you just don't run into each other for one 131 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 8: reason or another. But I'm so glad we finally did 132 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 8: run into each other and that it was in the 133 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 8: service of creating something beautiful together. 134 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was. 135 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: Awesome because my first album came out in two thousand 136 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,719 Speaker 1: and two. What year did your first album come out? 137 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 11: Two thousand and four, so it was not long after you. 138 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 8: We both were kind of like Grammy Darlings when we 139 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 8: came out, and I think we both kind of had 140 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 8: a certain amount of credibility because we played our. 141 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 11: Own instruments and we were writing our own songs. 142 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 8: And I feel like in a lot of ways, our 143 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 8: careers are paralleled in some ways, but they just never 144 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 8: intersected for some reason. 145 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: I know, I love the way you play pianos so much. 146 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: That's so beautiful. And I wanted to ask, because you've 147 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: been in this business since since long before your first 148 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: album came out. I didn't know that you played on 149 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: Miseducation of Mill until maybe like a year ago. I 150 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: didn't even know that, Yes, how did that all happen? 151 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 11: So I started playing in the church, so I grew up. 152 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 8: So a lot of my style is just like old 153 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 8: school gospel style. I learned a lot for my grandmother, 154 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 8: my mother's mother, and so a lot of my style 155 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 8: came from her, and then I grew up. Our job 156 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 8: at church was basically like playing by ear all the time. Yeah, 157 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:02,959 Speaker 8: You're like learning songs from CDs or tapes so you 158 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 8: could play them with the choir and then if someone 159 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 8: just starts singing in the middle of service, you got 160 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 8: to find the key play along with them. 161 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 11: So you're just it's like a major ear training. 162 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: I have a question about that because I went to 163 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,199 Speaker 1: high school with a bunch of guys who learned in 164 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: church that way. 165 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 11: Robert Glasper Yes, all. 166 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: These guys from Dallas High School as well Sean Martin 167 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: who's now passed passed away, and they were telling me 168 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: about it. Is it a specific type of church that 169 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: does that, because that's not so. 170 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 8: A lot of Black churches are like this, but there 171 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 8: are some more like kind of traditional kind of old 172 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 8: school churches that are more liturgical in the services. But 173 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 8: then I grew up in the Pentecostal church, and our 174 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 8: church is much more informal when it comes to like 175 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 8: the liturgy of the service. There's not a lot of 176 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 8: like written hymns that you play, and it's a lot 177 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 8: looser and it's more fun musically, honestly, but it develops 178 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 8: your ear in a way that it's just perfect ear 179 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 8: training for anybody that wants to be able to on 180 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 8: the fly kind of adjust. And so a lot of 181 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 8: the best black musicians that you'll meet grew up in 182 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 8: the church because that's where they developed their chops and 183 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 8: it just served them well throughout, you know, whatever music 184 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:24,719 Speaker 8: they end up playing later in life, that foundation was 185 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 8: where they built their chops as musicians. And you know, 186 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 8: Jermaine dupri did a post that got circulated pretty widely 187 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 8: in kind of the black music circles. He was basically 188 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,559 Speaker 8: lamenting the fact that not enough black musicians. 189 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 11: Go to church anymore. 190 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 8: So we're losing, Yeah, we're losing like some of that 191 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 8: tradition in that training ground for young musicians, and so 192 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 8: you're just a generation that's less churched, which means, as 193 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 8: a side effect, less of that ear training and that 194 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 8: musical foundation. 195 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 1: That's really interesting. Yeah, I went to high school with 196 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: this group of people who were just the most incredible 197 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: musicians I've ever known in my life. Yeah, and yeah, 198 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: it's exciting. You're going to Dallas. 199 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm going to Dallas. 200 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: You probably know some of them. 201 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 8: Yeah, and if you if you look at my band, 202 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 8: almost all of them grew up playing in church. They're 203 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 8: mostly from Philly and black gospel scene there is very 204 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 8: big and almost all of them are like preacher's kids 205 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 8: or grew up playing in the church in someway or another. 206 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 8: And you can just tell, you know, stylistically, but also 207 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 8: just again the level of just chops are able to 208 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 8: develop at a young age. 209 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 11: There. 210 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: It must be fun on the road too to have 211 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: that kind of a musician on stage, because you could 212 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:46,839 Speaker 1: just be loose. 213 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 11: Yes, you can. 214 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: Go anywhere and they'll follow. Yes, they have to be 215 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: over rehearsed or. 216 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 11: Absolutely you know. 217 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 8: Yeah, and you know, we we have a plan going in, 218 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 8: but it's nice that you have people that can adjust 219 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 8: on the fly in case we deviate from the plan. 220 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 11: Yeah. 221 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: I love that. When you started when you played on 222 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: that Lauren Hill record, how did that come about? 223 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 8: Okay, so the Lauren Hill record, Sorry I got derailed 224 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 8: from my story. No, So it actually because I was 225 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 8: playing in church is why it happened. 226 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 11: Because I was going to school in Philadelphia. 227 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 8: I went to UPenn and then on the weekends I 228 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 8: found a gig playing for a church up in Scranton, Pennsylvania. 229 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 11: Which is a couple hours north of Philly. 230 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 8: And so I would drive up to Scranton every weekend 231 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 8: and played at this am church, African Methodist Episcopal Church, 232 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 8: and their church is kind of a blend of the 233 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 8: more improvisational style and the more kind of classic liturgical style, 234 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 8: where you know, there are certain beats in the service 235 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 8: that happened every week, but then there were things that 236 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 8: you did that were a little looser as well. 237 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 11: And so I played for this church. 238 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 8: I directed the choir wow, and I would teach them 239 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,119 Speaker 8: music every weekend and we would sing it on Sundays, 240 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 8: and I would arrange for them, play for them, do 241 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 8: all that. So basically they call you the minister of 242 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 8: music in that setting. And so I was the minister 243 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 8: of music for that church. And one of my choir 244 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 8: members had gone to high school with Lauren Hill, and 245 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 8: so Lauren grew up in the Jersey area, like North 246 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 8: Jersey around Newark, East Orange, South Orange, West Orange, all 247 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 8: the oranges. I forget which orange, but one of those 248 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 8: oranges she grew up in. And my friend Tara went 249 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 8: to high school with her and was a little older 250 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 8: than Lauren, but she was kind of like a friend 251 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 8: and collaborator and mentor, and she ended up touring with 252 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 8: Lauren for the first couple tours after Miseducation came out 253 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 8: and she sang on the album, and so she was like, 254 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 8: why don't you come to the studio with me. Lauren's 255 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 8: working on her solo debut, which you know, was coming 256 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 8: after the Fujis and the huge you know, Killing Me 257 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 8: Softly and all that, and so I was like, yeah, I. 258 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 11: Want to go. 259 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 8: I want to see what she's up to, because everybody 260 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 8: was like, when's she gonna go solo? And so she's 261 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 8: making this, you know, epic solo album that ended up 262 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 8: being one of the great albums of all time. But 263 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 8: you know, we don't know what's happening until we get there. 264 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 8: We get there and they're working on a song and 265 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 8: we're in a studio and I'm just sitting there just 266 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 8: kind of watching, trying to stay out of the way. 267 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 8: But eventually I'm like, you know, my friends like Johnny, 268 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 8: you gotta play something for her, show her what you 269 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 8: can do. She's like, this is your moment, show her 270 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 8: what you can do. So I get on the piano 271 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 8: and sang a couple of songs for her. One of 272 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 8: them was this original song that I've written called too Late, 273 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 8: and Lauren was like, why don't you play on this 274 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 8: record we're working on now? And it didn't exactly sound 275 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 8: completely like it ended up. They changed the lyrical bit 276 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 8: and rewrote some things, but the basic musical foundation for 277 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 8: Everything is Everything's Crazy was built in that session and 278 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 8: I played piano on it, and the you know, the 279 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 8: interesting part is you never know what's going to happen 280 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 8: when you just you just play on something. 281 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 11: You don't know if it's going to come out. 282 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 8: You don't know if your parts are going to be 283 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 8: still included when it comes out. 284 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 11: You just don't know. 285 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 8: And then a few months later I got a call 286 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 8: from a record label asking how to spell my name 287 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 8: for the for the album credits. 288 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 11: I was like, Okay, it's gonna come out. 289 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 8: It's gonna come out, and so I'm like, my name 290 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 8: is John R. Stevens, which is my real name, and 291 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 8: I'm like decided to give them the R in my 292 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 8: middle initial for some reason, even though it sounds more 293 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 8: like a lawyer or an accountant. 294 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 11: Or something, but I tell them it's John R. Stevens. 295 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 8: And that's how it ended up in the credits on 296 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 8: track thirteen of Mis Educational Barn, John R. 297 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 11: Stevens on piano. 298 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: That's amazing. It's so wild. I know that album linked 299 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: the back of my hand, and I had no idea. 300 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 8: So many of us know my album so and I 301 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 8: think you know, if you talk to any musician that 302 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 8: came out right after that, Like we were all listening 303 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 8: to that album so much. We were also inspired by it, 304 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 8: and it was like one of those albums that kind 305 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 8: of showed us what we wanted to do, Like it 306 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 8: kind of gave us like a north star of like 307 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 8: what music is supposed to sound like, and how to 308 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 8: make it eclectic and multi genre and honest and soulful 309 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 8: and all those things that she was able to do. 310 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 8: It blended, you know, soul and hip hop and reggae 311 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 8: and all these different sounds so beautifully and seamlessly. And 312 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 8: it was just one of those great albums that inspired 313 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 8: all of us young musicians, and we all know it. 314 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 11: Like the back of our head. We know the skits 315 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 11: in between. 316 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 8: And the songs are so good they still hold up 317 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 8: so well, so good. 318 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's also what it's all about. Yeah, Yeah, 319 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: And you're such a great songwriter. This song from your 320 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 1: debut we were talking about doing Order People. The song 321 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: is so moving, thank you, and it's got energy, but 322 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: it's solo. I mean, it's just it's such a great 323 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 1: first thing to hear of you when you came out. 324 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 8: Yeah, it was wild making that song because I was 325 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 8: originally writing the chorus for The Black Eyed Peas. So 326 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 8: I'm friends with who I Am and the recipes, and 327 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 8: we had the same manager at that time, and sometimes 328 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 8: they would just we had written together before for my album, 329 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 8: but this session wasn't supposed to be for my album. 330 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 8: It was supposed to be for the Black Eyed Peas, 331 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 8: and he would just play me beats that he had 332 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 8: made and I would hum whatever ideas came to my head. 333 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 8: And one of the ideas I hummed was the chorus 334 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 8: for ordinary People. And so it had like a backbeat, 335 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 8: It had a hip hop kind of kind of energy 336 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:58,199 Speaker 8: to it, and a couple of days later, I had, 337 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 8: you know, written this idea with him, and I was like, 338 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 8: you know what, I feel like those other ideas work 339 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 8: really well for you guys, but that ordinary People idea 340 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:08,360 Speaker 8: I feel like would. 341 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 11: Work better for my own project. 342 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 8: And I was finishing up Get Lifted at the time, 343 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 8: and I had just gotten signed to Columbia Records, and 344 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,360 Speaker 8: I was like, you know what, I should probably keep 345 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,479 Speaker 8: Ordinary People for myself, but I'll let you produce it. 346 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 8: And so the original had a beat to it. It 347 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 8: hadn't it was kind of mid tempo, but it was 348 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 8: it had energy to it. And I went on tour 349 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 8: with Kanye, and Kanye was touring in Europe at the time. 350 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 8: I was signed to his production company and he was 351 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 8: executive producing my debut album, and so as we were 352 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 8: finishing the album, I took a break to go on 353 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 8: the road with Kanye for like a few weeks, and 354 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 8: we were in Europe and I just would write all 355 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 8: the lyrics to ordinary People every sound check, and I 356 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 8: come back home and I record a demo of it. 357 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 11: It's just me on the piano. 358 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 8: But I was going to send it to Will for 359 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 8: him to like arrange and produce up, but we decided 360 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 8: eventually that we just liked it better simple, just me 361 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 8: and my voice on the piano, and we ended up 362 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 8: putting it out as the demo. 363 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 11: Basically, the demo is the version that came out. 364 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:27,479 Speaker 8: And it's crazy because my first single was an up 365 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 8: tempo song. 366 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 11: It's called used to Love You. Kanye produced. 367 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 8: It is, you know, up tempo, soulful, hip hop, kind 368 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 8: of grounded, and we were promoting it and that was 369 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 8: the song we were going with and the label was 370 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 8: going with. 371 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 11: But my A n R KP Kawan Praitha. 372 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 8: He had decided to slip a full version of Ordinary 373 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 8: People onto the back of this sampler that we were 374 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 8: giving out to radio stations and to fans at a 375 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 8: small shows I was doing. And this station in Chicago 376 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 8: WGCI got ahold of it and they were supposed to 377 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 8: be playing used to Love You, my first single, but 378 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 8: they decided they loved ordinary People more and they started 379 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 8: playing Ordinary People just out of the blue, without you know, 380 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 8: getting permission or without it being promoted to them. So 381 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 8: Ordinary Peoples on the radio in Chicago and it just 382 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 8: takes over the city, like all the R and B 383 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 8: fans like it. Blew up in Chicago, and that was 384 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 8: the first place it blew up, and then it just 385 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 8: caught fire all around the country because they would get 386 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 8: all they called it research back then, so they get 387 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 8: the research where they would, you know, see how well 388 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 8: it was doing in the in the area, and it 389 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:52,360 Speaker 8: was just killing in Chicago, and basically the radio promoter 390 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 8: from the label was like, we need to launch this 391 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 8: everywhere and let this be the next single and move 392 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 8: off of you Used to Love You Ordinary People as 393 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 8: a song everybody wants to hear, and so it became 394 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 8: my signature debut single. 395 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 11: But it wasn't the first single. 396 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 8: But it was, but it was it was a lot 397 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 8: of people's introduction to me. 398 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 1: Really it was mine. Yeah, and I wonder if that 399 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: that stuff doesn't happen like that anymore, like for things 400 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 1: to be played on the radio in one city. 401 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 8: Yeah, things are just well, radio is just less determinative 402 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 8: in general of anything right now. Now it's still it 403 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 8: still can be kind of audience driven in a way, 404 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 8: but it's just a different way of the audience driving 405 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 8: it based on their streaming and you know, what they're 406 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,439 Speaker 8: using on TikTok or just them seeing it in a 407 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 8: movie or you know, there's all kinds of random ways. 408 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 8: And it's also interesting because it kind of flattens time 409 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 8: in some way, because songs can become huge now that 410 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 8: came out like forty years ago, I know, And so 411 00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 8: it's so random sometimes how songs blow up now, and 412 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 8: it's less determined by radio. So it makes it kind 413 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 8: of hard for artists to promote themselves and for record 414 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 8: labels to figure it out, because sometimes it feels like 415 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 8: there's no rhyme or reason to it, and there's so 416 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 8: much music out there that it seems hard to break through. 417 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 8: Sometimes I feel like it was a simpler time, simpler 418 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 8: when we were breaking Yeah. 419 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it's a weird world out there. You have 420 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: to get good at doing all the jobs for yourself, 421 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: you know. 422 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 8: Yeah, And you know, once COVID happened, we just got 423 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 8: so used to creating our own content. 424 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 1: Now you don't want to leave your house. 425 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 8: Yeah, you're like, you do all your own interviews from 426 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 8: from your laptop at home. 427 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 11: You got a room set up. 428 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: I don't have to go there. 429 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 11: I can do this at home exactly. 430 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 8: So so much has changed. It's it really is a 431 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 8: lot different from when we're. 432 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 1: Started it is well, I would love it if you 433 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 1: could play this song. 434 00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 11: Yeah, let's try it. 435 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,360 Speaker 1: Would you be okay? Saying something? Do you say something 436 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: like harmonies? I got some crazy harmony. 437 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 11: Ideas in the original key and then see. 438 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm good with that. 439 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 12: Yeah, oh oh. 440 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 9: Girl, I'm in love with you with this, ain't the honeymoon, 441 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 9: with past, the infatuation. 442 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 12: Fame. 443 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 9: Ride in the thick of love times we get sick 444 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 9: of love. It seems like we are you every day. 445 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 5: I know, I Misspeaka, you made your mistakes. 446 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 10: We bolls goden room left to grow, though loves sometimes hurts. 447 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 5: I steal but you first. 448 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 11: And we'll make this thing work. 449 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 9: But I think we should take it can slow wiz 450 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 9: is all and learnty people. 451 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 5: We don't know it's trying to go call her people 452 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 5: baby rings should take it, So take it sow beside 453 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 5: it's long. Take gets slow. 454 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 9: Oh oh, the tide will take It's. 455 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 13: Slow the same movie though, no very's out conclusion, y'all, 456 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 13: I guess my confused who's in every day? 457 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 10: Sometimes it's heaven seen and we head back to hell again, 458 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 10: kids saying we may go on the way I. 459 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 14: You call We ride and weave walk and we've feel 460 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 14: jahs walk in the hard way. 461 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 15: Out learning bats we a second chance. 462 00:26:55,400 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 7: It's not the fast see I storm you to say, will. 463 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 2: Them people. 464 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 7: We don't know? 465 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 16: It's trekcause we are there people, Baby week. 466 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 5: Should take it? So we of Lord, people. 467 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 7: We don't know try to go. 468 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 5: Because we are There's people. Maybe weeks should take it. 469 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 5: So take its loss. 470 00:27:51,000 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 15: Oh this timeity, it's long, take it slow. 471 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 7: Oh oh this side it's slow. 472 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 5: Take its slow. 473 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 2: Slow. 474 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 8: This line will take it slow, take it slow. 475 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:36,679 Speaker 5: Oh this side will take. 476 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 11: It's slow. 477 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: That's so pretty. 478 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 11: Thank you. 479 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 12: Yeah. 480 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 1: I was gonna play, but then I was just like, 481 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,239 Speaker 1: I know, I don't think so. 482 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 8: I still love doing that song. It's still one of 483 00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 8: my favorite songs to perform. That's great twenty years later. 484 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's a great song, first of all. 485 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: Second of all, I feel like when the audience responds 486 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: with such excitement when they're excited to hear something, which 487 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: I'm sure they always are with the song. 488 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's infectious, right Yeah, And it feels like I'm 489 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 8: just really grateful for the song too, because it changed 490 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 8: my life and it's like so meaningful to me, and 491 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 8: it means a lot to a lot of people. 492 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 11: People would always tell me like they stopped what. 493 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 8: They were doing the first time they heard it, and 494 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 8: we're like, what's this Because if you look back at 495 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 8: what the sound of like R and B and hip 496 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 8: hop radio was at that time, it sounded so different 497 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 8: from everything else that was on it, and so people 498 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 8: always describe this feeling of like whoa what is this? 499 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 11: And it stopped them. 500 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,479 Speaker 8: In their tracks a lot of times, and so it 501 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 8: always feels like, Wow, we captured lightning in a bottle. 502 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 8: It was like a special, like lucky moment that we 503 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 8: wrote this song that was supposed to be a hip 504 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 8: hop song that ended up being the stripped down demo version, 505 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 8: and that we put it out sounding so different from 506 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 8: everything else and it worked. 507 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 11: It worked. 508 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: It's also just a great song. Like the lyrics, it's 509 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: a very it's it's I don't know, it's just deep. 510 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: It's a deep sentiment. 511 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 8: Well, what's crazy. I was single at the time. I 512 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 8: wasn't even like going through like any kind of well. 513 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 8: I was dating, but I wasn't like serious with anyone. 514 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 8: And what was happening in my family was my parents. 515 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 8: They were like going back and forth. So they had 516 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:41,719 Speaker 8: gotten divorced when I was like ten, and then they 517 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 8: got back together. They got remarried, like literally like did 518 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 8: the whole thing, walked down the aisle again. 519 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 11: White dress, everything. 520 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 8: And that was like right around when I graduated from college, 521 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 8: right around like ninety nine, two thousand and then right 522 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 8: as I was finishing get lifted, decided to get divorced again. 523 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 8: And what does that do to you, Rixy or people? 524 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well that's heavy. 525 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 8: So I was like writing about like what my family 526 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 8: was going through, but it wasn't me personally, like you know, 527 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 8: in my own dating life at the time. 528 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh that's really Yeah, that's pretty deep. I love 529 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: the little bridge section. We didn't do it. 530 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 14: Oh yeah, maybe we live and learn. Maybe we're crashing by. 531 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 14: Maybe you stay, maybe lee, maybe you returned. 532 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 11: It's high. 533 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 5: Maybe you're on a fight. 534 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 7: Maybe we want s rive, Maybe we'll grow never know. 535 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:48,719 Speaker 11: Maybe. 536 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that speaks right to that situation. Oh my gosh, 537 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: that's great. Well that's insane. That's a crazy little family 538 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: story there. 539 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 11: Yeah. Yeah, let's talk about bridges. 540 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 1: Bridges. Bridges, that's a bridge. 541 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 11: It's a lost art, you know. 542 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I never write bridges I don't come from that 543 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: school of songwriter. 544 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 8: Yeah, I pretty much do come from the school of 545 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 8: writing a bridge. I don't always do it, and I 546 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 8: feel like a lot of songs don't have them anymore. 547 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 11: But I like it. 548 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: If it's a good bridge, I love it. 549 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 8: Yeah, and figure out a way to make it feel 550 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,719 Speaker 8: like it elevates the song and like it creates like 551 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 8: a new twist and gives it a new tension. 552 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 11: It can be cool. 553 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's a good bridge. Yeah. I just love 554 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: your playing. It's so pretty. 555 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 11: Thank you. Yeah. 556 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 1: Did you ever play jazz, like really get into playing jazz? 557 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 11: I never properly really played it. 558 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 8: So I did have one of those jazz fake books, 559 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 8: and I would like learn like some of the standards 560 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 8: and things like that. And I loved listening to jazz vocalists, 561 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 8: particularly especially like kind of the old school jazz vocalist 562 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 8: like an Ella and a Saravon and Na King Cole, 563 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 8: and really that music was kind of the pop music 564 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 8: of its era in a lot of ways. So in 565 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 8: the Grammys they call it traditional pop now basically, Yeah, 566 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 8: but you know, it was it was you know, some 567 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 8: of it was you know, show tunes and and in film, 568 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 8: and it was it was the mainstream music of that era. 569 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 8: But these vocalists were just doing beautiful, like wonderful things. 570 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 8: And I loved those vocalists and I still listen to them, 571 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 8: Ella Nina and Sarah Billy like all of them, and 572 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 8: I'm still inspired by them, and I would try to 573 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 8: learn some of their songs. 574 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 11: But I was never like a real jazz cat, you know. 575 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 8: And I never really learned to like improv like they did. 576 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:57,719 Speaker 8: Like I learned to improv and like, oh, I can 577 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 8: learn a song, but I didn't learn the skill of 578 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 8: like being a great soloist. 579 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know all those extensions I. 580 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 8: Can tell, Yeah, yeah, I know enough of them to 581 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 8: get by. And you know, I can learn a song 582 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 8: and write out a chart pretty easily. 583 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 11: With that skill comes in handy and what we do. 584 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 8: But I never have had to be a good soloist, 585 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,439 Speaker 8: so I never kind of developed that. I'm more thinking 586 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 8: myself as a pianist who plays for the main thing, 587 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 8: which is me as a vocalist and a songwriter. 588 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 1: Well, there's such a marriage between singers who play an instrument. 589 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if they're they have crazy chops. It's 590 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: about the marriage of the two things. 591 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,800 Speaker 11: I'm playing in service of me singing. 592 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: It's so special for you to have this whole thing, 593 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: like my thing is so what it is. It doesn't 594 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: mean it's good or bad. It's just a thing. It's 595 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 1: its own thing and special we do. Yeah, it's the 596 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 1: best part. Well, I wanted to ask you if you 597 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 1: would do a Christmas song with me. 598 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 11: Let's do it. 599 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,800 Speaker 1: Yeah for maybe maybe this will be a little Christmas episode, 600 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: Let's do it. This is kind of where the jazz 601 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: sort of, I feel like Christmas songs, the old ones, yeah, 602 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 1: standard ones are just so perfect. 603 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 8: That's the closest thing I've done to making a jazz 604 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 8: album was with Raphael Sadek. 605 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 11: He produced my entire Christmas album. 606 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:26,839 Speaker 2: He did, and we had. 607 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 8: Some great like great horn moments, some great fun great 608 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 8: like solo So it was my closest to making a 609 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 8: jazz album. 610 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 11: I didn't play any of the piano. 611 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 8: On it, by the way, Yeah, okay, we had some 612 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 8: real cats playing, okay, Yeah, But I loved making the album. 613 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 8: I feel like as a vocalist, I feel more comfortable 614 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 8: in doing jazz than I do as a as a pianist. 615 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 8: Got you, Yeah, I felt like more like I said, 616 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 8: I've listened to a lot of jazz vocalists over the years, 617 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 8: and so I felt at least like conversant in the 618 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 8: way that I would want help approach the vocal for this, 619 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 8: and I let the real pianist handle the keyboards. 620 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 1: That's cool. When did your Christmas album come out? 621 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 8: It's been a while, twenty eighteen, twenty eighteen, we've done 622 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 8: like kind of deluxe versions. 623 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 11: And all that sense. 624 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 1: Then got to do it. 625 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 8: I remember my baby boy at the time was Miles. 626 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 8: He's seven now, but he was tiny, Like he was 627 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,880 Speaker 8: on the photo shoot for the album cover and he 628 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 8: was like literally this big. 629 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,800 Speaker 1: Do you guys you have a big family? Four kids, 630 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 1: four kids? 631 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 11: And I was one of four kids. 632 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: Are you okay all right? And do you guys have 633 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 1: any special Christmas traditions that you've carried on from your childhood? 634 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 11: Well, this album has become part of it. 635 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,359 Speaker 8: Not to sound you know, self promoting, but this album 636 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 8: has definitely become part of it. And music is always 637 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 8: a big part of it. And we love to cook. 638 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 8: Chrisy's amazing at it. It's her day job, but you know, 639 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 8: she loves to entertain. We love to entertain. So the 640 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 8: family comes to our house a lot for either Thanksgiving 641 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 8: or Christmas every year and. 642 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 1: We just just a huge, full house. 643 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,240 Speaker 11: Yeah, it's a fool house. 644 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 8: And you know, Chrissy grew up in a smaller family, 645 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 8: and it's interesting because I'm very comfortable in a large family, 646 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,240 Speaker 8: but she always wanted one and never had one. And 647 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,840 Speaker 8: so it's perfect that we both you know, wanted to 648 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,880 Speaker 8: have four kids and have the extended family over a 649 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:27,359 Speaker 8: lot too. 650 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 11: And so we do holidays really big at our house. 651 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 1: That's great. Yeah, I could see that. 652 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,439 Speaker 11: All right, all right, let's figure this out. 653 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 1: Do you want to play on this? 654 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 11: I'll play this. 655 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 8: I can play it like I did it with Esperanzaka, 656 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 8: the version we did. 657 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 11: Have yourself. 658 00:37:56,360 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 9: I marry little Christmas, that your heart be live. 659 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 8: From now on, our troubles will be out of sience. 660 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 6: Have yourself a merry little Christmas. 661 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 2: Make me you tie games. From now our troubles will 662 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 2: be in the way. 663 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 5: Here we are as a golden. 664 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 7: Days, Happy golden days. 665 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 9: Of your. 666 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:51,839 Speaker 10: Favul friends who are here to us, gatherings. 667 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 5: To us words. 668 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 13: Through these we all will be together. 669 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 5: If the thase allowed. 670 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 7: A shine start along the high is bay. 671 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 5: A merry little races nice? 672 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:53,719 Speaker 7: Yah? Yeah yeah, Lea has. 673 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 2: A holden days. 674 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 7: Having molden days are gold. 675 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 5: Flatul brands. 676 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:09,720 Speaker 7: You are did two arts, can lease two ards, swan swat. 677 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:19,919 Speaker 7: We all will be together if the thing's all out. 678 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 5: A shame siding on the. 679 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:38,920 Speaker 7: Who marry little Christmasma love. 680 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 5: Merry Christmases? 681 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 12: Have you. 682 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 5: No marry little Christmas? Married little Christmas? 683 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 15: Have your sir. 684 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 5: Marry Christmas? 685 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:00,200 Speaker 9: No? 686 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:06,239 Speaker 8: Yeah? 687 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, yeah no. 688 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 5: Rehearsal. 689 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 11: That was great. 690 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 5: That was great. 691 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 1: That's a totally different version. 692 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:22,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's cool. 693 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,880 Speaker 1: I love it. She's so great, Esperanza, Esperanza. 694 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 11: So did you win Best New Artists? 695 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 5: Yeah? 696 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 11: Yeah, so so both of us won Best New Artists. 697 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:33,279 Speaker 3: Yeah. 698 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 8: And I got to stand on stage and present Best 699 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 8: New Artists one year and the all the you know, 700 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 8: the talk was is it going to be Drake or 701 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,880 Speaker 8: is it going to be Justin Bieber? That's right, and 702 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,840 Speaker 8: it was her, And and I opened the envelope and 703 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,719 Speaker 8: they don't tell you who's gonna win beforehand, and I'm 704 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:59,320 Speaker 8: just like shocked because it's neither Drake nor Justin Bieber, 705 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,480 Speaker 8: and it's Esperanza Spaulding and I got to hand her 706 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 8: her Best New Artist trophy. 707 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 11: That's fun. And years later we got to do this 708 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 11: record together. 709 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,280 Speaker 1: That's cool. Who handed you yours? Do you remember? 710 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:18,879 Speaker 11: I feel like it was common. I think this one 711 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,439 Speaker 11: was common and Fiona Apple, Oh cool. 712 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 8: I got to look back at the Yeah, I'm pretty 713 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 8: sure it was common in Fion Apple. 714 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:27,840 Speaker 11: Yeah, that's cool. 715 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 8: And I know Will i Am presented me an Award 716 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 8: that night too, But I think that was a different 717 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 8: that was for ordinary people, which was cool because you 718 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,920 Speaker 8: know he was involved in it. Yeah, and then the 719 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,440 Speaker 8: Best New Artist was I think it was common in 720 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,399 Speaker 8: Fion Apple. And I love Fiona Common as a friend 721 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,560 Speaker 8: of mine. I didn't know Fiona before that though, and 722 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 8: I got to meet her when she was handing me 723 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:47,600 Speaker 8: an award. 724 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:53,520 Speaker 1: What a weird world. Well, this has been great, so fun. 725 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,759 Speaker 11: Thank you for joining me, Thank you for having me. 726 00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 1: You're incredible and I hope I get to see you again. 727 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 11: Let's do it again, Let's make music again. 728 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 8: If I'm in your city, you're in New York, yeah, 729 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,040 Speaker 8: and I'm playing in Brooklyn where maybe we should do 730 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 8: Summertime Blue and Sappy Grounds. 731 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 11: All right? 732 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was amazing I'm in the Christmas spirit. I 733 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:18,280 Speaker 1: feel jolly. I feel jolly too. His voice is insane 734 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,480 Speaker 1: in person, it just fills the whole room like he 735 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 1: is truly one of the loudest singers I've ever experienced 736 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,120 Speaker 1: in my life. Even he knows that. We've talked about 737 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,200 Speaker 1: it before because I'm kind of a quiet singer. So 738 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,880 Speaker 1: when we're singing together, I was like, oh, I got 739 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 1: to step it up a little bit. You know, he's 740 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 1: got like crazy lung power. 741 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:36,879 Speaker 11: Yeah. 742 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 1: Beautiful, so beautiful. I really had a great time. Thanks 743 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,719 Speaker 1: for listening everyone, If you would like to know what 744 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,359 Speaker 1: songs we played on this episode. First song was Summertime Blue, 745 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,759 Speaker 1: which is a song I recorded with John earlier this 746 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 1: year in twenty twenty five. It's just sort of a 747 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 1: standalone release digital release that is. Second song is Ordinary People, 748 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,840 Speaker 1: What a Class? That's from Get Lifted, which was released 749 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,400 Speaker 1: in two thousand and five. Third song we did was 750 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 1: have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas. That, of course, is 751 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 1: the classic Christmas song from the nineteen forties, written by 752 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:15,040 Speaker 1: Hugh Martin and Ralph Blaine. It was introduced by Judy 753 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 1: Garland in the musical meet Me in Saint Louis. I 754 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,480 Speaker 1: love her version so much. It's also on John's Christmas 755 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:25,360 Speaker 1: album called A Legendary Christmas, which came out in twenty eighteen. 756 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,480 Speaker 1: Special thanks to John Legend for joining us today. We'll 757 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,359 Speaker 1: be back next week with James Bay. Visit Nora Jones 758 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 1: channel and be sure to subscribe while you're there. Nora 759 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,080 Speaker 1: Jones Is Playing Along is a production of iHeart Podcasts. 760 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,560 Speaker 1: I'm your Host Norah Jones. This episode was recorded at 761 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:45,640 Speaker 1: Westlake Studios by Thomas Warren, Assistant engineer Dan Forth Webster, 762 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:50,000 Speaker 1: backline tech Jason Moser, mixed by Jamie Landry, Audio post 763 00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:54,440 Speaker 1: production and mastering by Greg Tobler. Additional recording by Matt Marinelli. 764 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 1: Artwork by Eliza Fry, Photography by Shervin Linez. Produced by 765 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:03,280 Speaker 1: Nora Jones, Sin Sarah Oda. Executive producers Aaron Wan Kaufman 766 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:07,279 Speaker 1: and Jordan Rundag Marketing Lead. Queen and Niki Have a 767 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:07,879 Speaker 1: Grave One